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Collecting Habits and Media Opinions

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About this Episode

A discussion on the history of collecting movie ticket stubs, the evolution of physical media collections, and shifting personal habits regarding geek media. The hosts share their perspectives on recent comic books, including IDW's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and reflect on the changing landscape of film and television discourse. The episode also touches on the current state of DC's cinematic plans and the importance of forming independent opinions in an era of social media noise.

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Part 1. Enjoy! But I used to more so keep them

when They were actual movie ticket stubs Now

well They're like these paper thin like that

receipt paper that if you get too close to heat

it just disintegrates Like I mean I used to collect

them and then they used to do like these little

You know where they rip off tabs type things

which they still do but it's that kind of shitty

paper now instead of actually having The That

old kind of real thick kind of almost cardboard

paper Yeah, I I think I had been collecting movie

stubs since about 91 or so, you know, I was about

10 in 1991 I was about 10 or 11 years old and

I think the ones I still have now are from like

97 98 99 up until now I've always collected them.

I mean I Go back and look through them every

now and then It's appalling the movies. I paid

money to go see it really is Please don't share

Oh, come on, that's the best part about it. One

movie that I actually now have to watch in the

current day, because I have to review the soundtrack

for La La Land Records, I have to watch The Peacemaker.

I remember when I first went to see that, I thought

it was going to be something completely different

than what it was. It's one of the only movies

I ever walked out of, within 10 minutes of it

starting. So I need to go back with an open mind

and, you know, watch it again now to do that

review for La La Land. Stuff like 10 Things I

Hate About You, Cruel Intentions, what else?

The Bruce Willis, Michelle Pfeiffer movie, The

Story of Us. Let's see, what else? Star Wars

episode one The virus is what keeps him strong

yay Bacteria is the part of the force now But

no to me it was like you know not necessarily

a badge of honor But collecting movie stubs,

it was a fun little hobby. It's just like somebody

who collects stamps. The only difference is there

are no rare movie stubs. I remember in 2002,

at the time, I had gotten into a huge fight with

the girl I was seeing. I paid for Spider -Man

once and saw it five more times because I theater

hopped the entire day. I watched that movie six

times the day it came out in 2002 and now I can

barely watch the first ten minutes of it anymore.

Because now that Amazing has come along and Garfield

is so much better than McGuire, my personal opinion,

you know, it's just one of those things where

like gold and I like Like I was saying it had

to have been somewhere around 90 91 when I started

collecting them as a kid But when I really start

remember collecting them as when I was like a

you know my mid teens 15 16 Gold and I I remember

going to see gold and I and oh my god. I held

on to that stuff forever Spider -man 2 & 3 Dark

Knight I did not see Batman Begins in theaters.

I don't know why. It just wasn't that... I don't

know. In 2005, everybody's making a big deal

out of it. I don't know if it was that I just

didn't care. I don't think that's what it was.

I just think I didn't know that much about it

to really pay attention. I mentioned The Dark

Knight. Dark Knight Rises, Iron Man. more recently,

Days of Futures Past, all the X -Men movies except

for Origins and First Class. Now I know that

people say that X3 is the bastard of the X franchise.

I saw it as a fun X -Men movie and one of the

reasons why is because I grew up on the 92 cartoon

series. So when friggin' Frasier Crane shows

up as Beast, I was like, that could not be more

fitting. You've got Frasier Crane, aka Sideshow

Bob, as Hank McCoy. That works. What else? What

about you? What are some of the ones that you've

collected over the years? I don't actually...

The funny thing is, is... Every now and again

I go through a purge and I just start dumping

stuff in the trash with no rhyme or reason. A

lot of those got dumped in there more so because

they weren't actually ticket stubs. I usually

I end up finding them in my pocket months after

I go. I can't really recall any that I still

have off the top of my head. I mean, I know I

have some. But they're just usually in random

places. I would say probably a couple of old

Star Trek ones from the 90s and 2000s. And I'm

saying like early 2000s, like the stuff that's

come out in the last five, six years hasn't had

real tickets. Stuff like First Contact. But I

think I have a I think I have the original Spider

-Man one somewhere. more so because I just I

That was the first movie. I actually went with

friends to see mmm in the theater I Remember

it well because we went to Walmart stocked up

on food, and then we went So yeah sue me on that

I don't I don't care, but My aunt Judy she actually

made Like homemade popcorn Brought it in this

giant purse one of the theater ushers tried to

stop her she smacked him Did she get sent out

she just smacked his hand away? No, she's She

you know she was she was an elder. You know it's

like Don't touch my shit troll Yeah, exactly.

The funny thing was, I remember seeing two movies

with her and my mom. Matthew Broderick and Inspector

Gadget and Shrek 2. Oh, good lord. I'm trying

to think if it was Shrek 1 or Shrek 2 or both.

Maybe it was three movies, but yeah, no. I saw

Matthew Broderick's Inspector Gadget in theaters.

That's just sad, dude. There was a DVD movie

all the way. I remember freaking out Valentine's

Day weekend 2003 because Valentine's Day was

a Friday that year. And I was just kind of feeling

out of it. I was actually up in Massachusetts

up in Kingston and Plymouth my hometown for my

cousin Rachel's wedding and The night because

they were getting married the 15th. So the night

before was Valentine's Day and we were all at

the Kingston Mall Kingston Independence Mall

and That was the night that daredevil opened

And I remember that beginning scene in the bar,

freaking the hell out because I knew that was

a Nickelback song in the background. As soon

as the movie was over, before the mall closed,

I went over to the record town and bought the

soundtrack. I did not see Electra in theaters,

thank God. I think I've seen almost every Marvel

movie in theaters except for Electra, The Incredible

Hulk, and Punisher Warzone. I have seen The Incredible

Hulk on home media, but I still to this day have

never seen Punisher Warzone. Okay, and I'm gonna

say this right now, and I know you know this

because I've told this to you several times.

A trailer is an advertisement. If the advertisement

looks... like something I'm not going to be interested

in, that I'm not going to go waste my money on

it. And the thing with Punisher Warzone is it's

like 20 times, like I get it. The Punisher is

a violent character. He kills people. I understand

that. But compared to the 2004 Thomas Jane film,

the Ray Stevenson film was like 20 million times

more violent and I just I'm not like violence

on that scale it just Doesn't doesn't speak to

me at all regardless of whoever the character

is I'm trying to think tonight. What else? What

are some of the more memorable movie theater

experiences you can think of Sadly, the only

stuff I can really remember is either movies

I've seen multiple times, ones I've gone with

friends, or a specific series of films. Like,

I've seen every Star Trek film in theater since

generations. And then... Like I've seen all the

Transformers films in theater. I've seen all

the Spider -Man films in theater. I've seen pretty

much all the superhero films. Well, not all of

them, but I would say a majority of them. Like

I've seen all the X -Men films and all the Wolverine

films. I've seen all the Pirates films. Those

are a lot of the ones I remember. And then, of

course, there's the ones that I've gone with

Booth Ninja. Mm -hmm like Batman and then Various

other ones like that Avengers and one of the

Iron Man's spider -man so I mean I've a lot of

those are ones that I tend to gravitate towards

a lot of the more obscure films I don't really

go see in theater. I more so wait till DVD but

that's because I have limited opportunities to

go to the theater. So unless it's a film Mary

wants to see or one that I have to see in theater,

for instance, the last one I saw in theater without

her was, I want to say Star Trek, but I could

have swore there was another film. It's one of

those things where I can no longer watch The

one genre that I have to wait for media release

whether it's DVD at Redbox or whether it's Netflix

online streaming or iTunes I can no longer watch

romantic comedies in theaters It's just a genre

that just doesn't Doesn't scream to me. Oh my

god. I must go see this romantic comedy in any

theater Probably my most memorable films I went

to go see was Two actually Turtles two Because

the whole time because I had as the thing I would

do as a kid I would find out that the movie is

coming out and then I would immediately go to

the bookstore or the library and Look for the

movie novelization so I could know about the

movie ahead of time Because ladies and gentlemen,

that's what you did back in the day when you

didn't have internet in 1990 and 1991. You went

to a library, read a movie novelization, bam,

you know pretty much what's going to happen in

the movie. I remember throughout the whole movie

I couldn't shut up and my mom was so pissed because

I spoiled the entire movie during the movie.

The other one was probably Batman Returns. I

got so freaked at the time because my weekend

foster family at the time, they were gonna go

see it, and it was one of those things that I

told my mom I would see with her. And they're

like, well, we're gonna go see it, so let's go.

I thought she was gonna be really mad at me.

She wasn't, but I thought she was. One of the

more regrettable ones, I think I wish I would

have waited for media release at the time So

I married an axe murderer. I saw that in theaters

Why? Michael Myers films are not worth theater.

Well Austin is He kind of blew that down the

shitter after the first one Are there any TV

shows when you've heard their DVD announcement

that you absolutely had to have the DVD of the

show? Funny thing enough, I only gravitate towards

certain media. And when I say that, I mean, I

only buy certain films based on franchise alone,

like Avengers, Marvel stuff, DC stuff, Turtles,

Star Trek, whatever. Or if it's a film that I

just really like. But as far as TV goes, The

only TV series that we've bought DVDs to Supernatural

well supernatural we bought it through the sixth

season and we just quit buying the DVDs because

Well, it's not even that I don't want to support

it. It's that We kept buying them and we just

don't watch them Yeah, it was it's it's more

so that a lot of the TV series that I own I actually

don't Watch unless we're doing a review show

for the most part like the animated Batman animated

series Beast Wars Batman Beyond Now that I wouldn't

sit there and watch them I just remember it's

one of those blessing and a curse things Because

when Mary and I go to watch movies or TV shows

Especially and I'm gonna go to the TV show I

know that to begin with but when we watch TV

shows and it's a season finale I Have to download

the season finale because otherwise she has no

clue what's going on when the season comes back

because she's like where did this come from why

is this happening blah blah blah and I Remember

everything like crystal clear like it was like

I watched it last night kind of crystal clear

and yeah It's the same way with movies if She

doesn't know what one of them are She asked me

and I can usually remember what every film is

about To the point it's irritating for me to

watch them and it's it is more so an irritant

because I remember them so vividly that I don't

want to watch them ever again. And I don't really

have a choice. That's kind of a problem I have.

There are a lot of movies and TV shows and stuff

like that that I remember very well. Who doesn't

remember every single line to Teenage Mutant

Ninja Turtles, the original film? I don't. With

the TV shows and the movies on DVD I used to

be so obsessive in my collecting those and I

got to a point in 2010 -2011 where financially

I wasn't doing well at all. I basically had to

sell my entire collection and honestly, I wasn't

sad to see it go Because number one I needed

to get myself back on track with you know with

my money, but number two The entire year that

I had lived in the apartment. I was in year year

and a half I had three giant shelves One whole

section was TV on DVD, one whole section was

animation, cartoon series on DVD, and then the

other section was just regular movies. I would

go over to it and be like what you said. Look

through it. Nope, don't want to watch that. Nope,

don't want to watch that. I've seen that too

many times. I would never... I would go over

to it wanting to pick something out to watch.

I would never pick anything out to watch. And

I'm so glad that I don't collect DVDs or TV shows

on DVD anymore. Again, like you said, not that

I don't want to support it, because I think it's

an amazing format, but I just, I've really lost

all of the collecting bug that I used to have.

Like 2007, 2008, I really got back into collecting,

and I started with, I bought, I spent $1 ,500

on five Transformers. in 2008. Later that year

I would spend $800 on the 2008 BotCon box set

from 2008. I was a like die -hard collector because

at the time I had a job where I was making exuberance

amount of money that I could just throw away.

But now I just even with the comic books when

I buy comics I wait three or four or five different

months and take them up to the comic shop, see

if they'll trade them in for store credit to

buy other ones that I need. I enjoy reading comics,

I love reading comics, I love reading trade paperbacks,

but at the same time, because I've got the pull

bag so far ahead of itself, I'm to the point

now where I get the stuff, I read it, I take

it to the shop. And I'm getting in -store credit

from them. It's not like I'm, you know, asking

for money and going spending it elsewhere. So

I'm still supporting my local comic shop because

it's going right back into their pocket. But

I think the only stuff that I really like hung

on to and people will kind of know this and some

might not. I know I know you know this because

I'm very obsessive with these two characters.

The only stuff I'm really holding on to is Batgirl

and Nightwing, the new 52. The rest is all expendable.

Hey, it's like that film series that nobody cares

about. Wait, which films? Oh, the Expendables?

Yeah. I care about that film series. I like that.

I like those films. I like the fact that all

these old -ass action stars are coming back and

finding a new niche. I really like that. I think

that's good. I find it really interesting. when

there are cast announcements for that franchise.

Because they pull shit out of the woodwork that

you would not even see coming. The second film's

villain was John Claude Van Damme. Guile as a

villain? Really? Eh, don't worry. Now it's Mel

Gibson. I can see Riggs going that shit crazy.

You did that years ago. Yes, yes, he did. As

the Joker said, if you had balls like that, you

would have done that years ago. But no, that

is one of the few... When it comes to actors

and actresses in Hollywood, I'm more so looking

for the old garb than who's up and coming and

new. I've seen several Jonah Hale films. I hate

that guy. I don't hate him personally, but I

hate his acting. I just don't care for his style

at all. Everyone knows, or everyone should know

when I mention this, Van Wilder, Ryan Reynolds.

I think there's one exception that I did not

complain about a Ryan Reynolds film, and that

was when he starred with Denzel in Safe House.

That was the only time I've never complained

about Ryan Reynolds playing the same damn comedic

character over and over and over again. Let's

see. But yeah, as far as the collecting DVDs,

I would rather just find it on iTunes or wait

for it to hit Netflix and watch it that way.

I've really lost the collecting bug Yeah, I have

this thing where I have to collect certain DVDs,

but that's about it at this point I Try not to

collect too much because I just at this point.

I have too much crap and nowhere to put it Yeah,

I mean, you know I went from a Well because I

have to take care of my mom nowadays, so we basically

live in a two -bedroom apartment. That's just

the way it is. I went from having a one -bedroom

apartment and not having enough room to having

a two -bedroom apartment, and I've got enough

room, but there's not enough room for what I

used to do with collecting, and it's just not

that important to me anymore. It really isn't.

Let's see You know the funny thing is I was telling

this to a friend of mine the other day I'm gonna

take the show in a little bit of a down note

here ladies and gentlemen So if you want to fast

forward a few minutes and not hear this story

go ahead I found out Memorial Day weekend or

Whatever weekend it was that the yeah, I think

it was yeah the weekend of the 24th of May That

my grandmother on my father's side passed away

Now my grandfather on my father's side passed

away when I was young So I don't really remember

him My grandparents on my mom's side passed away

in 2000 and 2007. So Well, obviously I still

miss them and it still hurts and I'm still sad

about it It's not as fresh in my mind. So last

month in April, my grandmother on my dad's side

passed away. I felt like such a jerk all Memorial

Day weekend because all I can think of is a certain

comic character death that I read about that

Saturday. And then later that night I found out

about her passing away. And I was like, oh my

god, how much of a jerk am I that I That I was

more emotionally rocked by a comic book character

death, which probably either the character probably

isn't dead Than my own grandmother So depression

of the show is done ladies and gentlemen, what

else you want to talk about? Well, I mean granted

we've talked about a lot of different things

but I've lately I've been burning house crap

And when I say that I mean that and literally

yes literally It's Definitely interesting Like

we're learning how to put together a place that

Like one of those backyard adventure park center

things where it's made of wood and all that.

But. The the weird part about it is is that.

I've never done this crap before, so it's. It.

It's definitely weird. Having to learn it all

kind of just as I go Yeah, but you're used to

winning it. I mean you wing it all the time,

you know Typically I tend to live in my my winging

ways Yes, well, let me ask you this Are you and

Mary are you the personality that has to sit

down read all the instructions first then go

put it together? Or it looks at the picture and

I can decipher what it is just by looking at

it. Okay Is Mary the She does she have a personality

if she has to sit down read all the directions

and then do it or is she also a winger? Depends

on what it is. Okay. The only reason why I ask

is because when you're talking about play sets

My brain flashes to an episode of good luck Charlie

where Bob I know what you're talking about the

father I've seen that one he basically has to

sit down read all the directions and Amy the

mother just says oh no I'll just put this piece

here and she's doing it all wrong I love that

episode but anyway yeah the house stuff you know

that's that's a learning process but once you

get it you've got it you know once you figure

it all out you'll become an old pro in no time

when it comes to that stuff you become a pro

how does that happen? very carefully i mean you

know not on the construction side but buying

and selling a home i could almost be a real estate

agent because i've seen enough of HGTV i know

exactly what to do and what not to do but yeah

I mean, I've put in laminate floors. I've put

in vinyl tile. We've painted the entire house.

We've plugged up teen holes. We discovered when

we tore up the last bit of carpet last night.

that was on one set of stairs that we have all

hardwood that we have to learn how to refinish

which we're gonna have help with but not really

looking forward to it that there's i mean there's

still some other stuff that we got to take care

of yet but i just I'm having fun with some of

it don't get me wrong But you're also really

stressed with a lot of it aren't you and then

at the same time I want to Blow things up So

yeah, it's One of those tape scenarios But yeah

switching gears slightly I've also been tweaking

with the website It's something cast radio calm

And it's it's something I somewhat enjoy Yeah,

I say that I I mean because some of the web stuff

is a pain in the ass So I mean I've been messing

with that and trying to get everything tip -top

shape For the year five reveal Hmm Yeah, it looks

good so far I think everybody's really gonna

like it I hope so it's it's it's a lot of work

Yeah, you people better like it I I don't see

any right reason why not but it's the tip jar

is next to the door pay on your way out people

or Mike will come over to your house yeah right

I'm way too lazy for all that and he'll punch

you in the throat oh god now I have to put in

the ending to Jan Silent Bob yeah you know stuff

that I'm really excited for right now is that

surprisingly even though I haven't I've seen

all the trailers for age of extinction but I

haven't really like When we first did the news

stuff for I think the first full year we did

new stuff together for a Transformers movie was

revenge of the fallen and all the news stories

over and all things transformers that we kept

doing just burnt me out on that movie and Then

going to see it and realizing how bad it actually

was regardless of the writers strike You know,

I've pretty much avoided all spoilers. Not that

I mind being spoiled. I don't. There are some

things I mind being spoiled with. There are some

things that... It's so stupid, okay? One of our

fans... I had to actually block this guy personally

on my personal Twitter because he kept telling

me when a video was uploaded by a certain person

or persons that I follow on YouTube. And I'm

thinking to myself, do you not understand that

I am subscribed to this channel? I get the updates

on YouTube. I know I don't need to know when

a video of theirs is coming out by you who have

nothing to do with them. Um, and then he goes,

I honestly have no idea how the hell you could

spoil a YouTube video, but this guy managed to

do it. So there's that. Let's see, what else?

I don't even know where I was going with that,

but oh, spoilers for Age of Extinction. You know,

I've seen the trailers. The trailers, what I

love about Age of Extinction is the trailers

are barely showing anything. Like they don't

show the entire movie. That's how a trailer should

be. Exactly, that's how a trailer should be.

I mean, you should get a glimpse of it, but not

enough to sit there and make full -blown opinions.

Right, right. In other words, you're supposed

to entice someone like you who automatically

shuts down the information in their mind. Well,

with certain things I do. With other things I

don't. So I'm excited for Transformers later

in June. I'm on the fence about Libsyn's turtles.

Which we've talked about that in length already.

No, I know, I know. And I'm not going to go down

that rabbit hole. I'm just saying, because I

haven't really voiced an opinion on that lately,

at least on either one of these podcasts, I'm

just, I'm very hesitant. I don't completely have

zero expectations, but at the same time, I'm

not getting my panties in a wad about the designs

or about the voices or... Shut up. You know what

the hell I mean, you idiot. You know, I'm not

like half the fanboys on the internet that are

bitching and complaining about it. Which is kind

of funny because you know how I usually bitch

and complain about everything when it comes to

media That's the funny thing though when everybody

was voicing opinions I think as far back as last

year about Iron Man 3 about Man of Steel About

the new x -men movie about Captain America 2

about Amazing Spider -Man 2. I was just sitting

back and watching the circus And then I went

and made my own opinion after I had seen the

films I think the only one I didn't do that with

is the Lego movie because I just I Just can't

get past the leg. Anyway Right now my main focus

Is comics because I'm really enjoying a lot of

the stuff that I'm reading Batman eternal is

great Batman Beyond 2 .0 is great. Wow, it was.

Don't... We don't know what's gonna happen. Keep

it open... Wow, I can't believe I'm telling you

keep it open mind. It's Trapp, he switched. He

dyed his hair. They both did. Wow. The turtle...

Oh my god. As of this episode's recording, I

usually buy trade paperbacks and hold on to them

until whoever is going to be on an episode of

The Pull Bag with me for that trade, like Joe

Reed from Off the Cuff is doing the ongoing IDW

TMNT with me. As of this recording I've read

I've had to not necessarily fast read but I've

had to read all of it to catch up to current

because I'm gonna be interviewing the editor

from IDW Bobby Kernel in a few weeks So but the

turtle story from IDW I mean there's some stuff

that might make people scratch their heads and

might make people say oh that's not how it is

but oh my god this story is like this story that

idw is crafting the universe they're crafting

for the turtles and the ongoing is like no turtle

story i have ever seen or read before it's amazing

um but yeah that that's pretty much where i am

right now um you know i'm reading a lot of comics

um i'm actually having to go through Armada,

Energon, and Cybertron for the All Things Transformers

episode, along with Transformers RID, which I

had seen bits and pieces of Armada, Energon,

and Cybertron. I think I saw the first three

episodes of RID when it aired on television.

After that, I never watched it again. Not that

I didn't want to, or not that I didn't like it

at the time when it was airing, but I just didn't.

It just slipped my mind and I went on to other

things but now that I'm going back and I'm I'm

trying to keep an open mind so far my favorite

characters are the are the bullet trains and

the spy changers Okay, I mean at least you're

trying to keep an open mind I'm trying to where

there's trying I will say that I do not like

this whole thing of mixing Autobot Predacon Decepticon

Maximal whatever the hell they did there That's

a little too strange to me, but it's not something

that's gonna make me just turn the series off

and say screw it It's just a little weird Just

a little yeah, just a little So where is your

head when it comes to what you've got going on

with with geek media and all that stuff? Well,

I'm currently trying to figure out a way to Expand

into other regions of it Not quite sure what

that cryptic response means because it's kind

of a cop -out answer without actually answering

Part of it, you know, and part of it you don't.

Part of it's like it's just trying to figure

out something new to do that nobody else is doing

because it seems like there's an over saturation

of pretty much everything in pop culture and

geek media. You look at comics, you have, you

know... Yeah, you had you know what DC did with

their new 52. Oh, let's have 52 different comic

lines going Oh, let's cancel 10 of them and then

start 20 more and then let's cancel 20 of those

and start five more And then let's cancel 40

of those and start two more or how many how many?

comics of spider -man Batman and Wolverine can

we have I mean, it's just it gets it gets ridiculous

after a while and Honestly, I've I've been trying

to Because I hate to piss and moan about stuff

So I tend to try to figure out a Way that I can

still somewhat pay attention to it and not get

irritated with it But I can also Not actually

have to pay attention to it if I don't want to

So it's it's kind of one of those, you know,

almost double -edged sword type aspects Trying

to find the balance more or less With me in comics

and paying attention to certain stuff I try to

pay attention to everything with comics specifically

when it comes to the solicitation so I cuz what

I really tried to do since DC decided to Screw

the boot. Yeah. Well, they decided to kill the

hero of Nightwing and Make him a Russian secret

agent. What is the Heath Ledger? Joker would

say They chose to kill the Nightwing. Yeah. I've

really tried to branch out in my reading. Like

I said, I'm reading the Transformers from IDW.

Of course I was doing that before, but now I'm

into the Turtles. I'm going to be later on this

year getting into the Ghostbusters from IDW.

Angry Birds is coming out with a comic book from

IDW. I'm actually going to be doing some Metal

Gear stuff later this year. I mean, I'm trying

to widen my horizons as far as what I'm reading,

and I'm not trying to solely stick with superhero

books. Because my superhero books have honestly

very vastly diminished. They just have. It's

just not... So there's that With TV, you know,

there's always something on I really don't look

at the People that pay attention to the big networks

all the time are like, oh my god summer reruns.

Oh my god No, and then you know, they don't realize

that there's cable networks that usually air

new shows the summer that you might be able to

get addicted to like I know USA is coming out

with new stuff AMC TV TBS TNT All those things

So TV I'm pretty well well and set for Toys I

Good well I was gonna say with the TV and since

I've been wanting to bring this up for two weeks.

Have you watched Supernatural No at any point

No, I think I watched the first season the first

episode of the first season But it's just it's

not a show for me. I'm not into supernatural

kind of stuff. I Mean the most supernatural kind

of stuff I get to is like blade and Ghostbusters

And I know those are two very different things,

but I'm just not into the whole supernatural

kind of thing So I I don't dislike the show but

at the same time I I'm not gonna form an opinion

of something I've only seen one episode on even

though that's what I do with agents of shield

So you agree you do a cop -out Well only because

I believe Coulson is still dead, but that's just

my personal opinion Well, I'm gonna bring it

up because it's been driving me nuts and I want

to talk about it so They switched the as I alluded

to last the last episode of alter geek They actually

did something interesting They changed the dynamic

oh geez Instead of having because at the end

of season one They they find their their dad

two brothers And it's. You know, so they're all

driving this car and then this demon thing, you

know, of course, it puts them all in the hospital

and one of them's at the verge of death. Well,

he was about to be taken away by a grim reaper,

which the funny thing is, is the current show

writer is actually pulling back from like the

season first three seasons and tying up loose

ends that were just kind of left dangling there.

But because that same Angel of death more or

less that was in that season two premiere episode,

right They Actually did away with the character

finally But um, yeah they had The the that brother

of course stay alive because the dad forfeited

his life for him to stay alive Which it's one

of those games that they play that oh I'll you

know I'll trade my life for all I'll trade this

and I'll trade that you know they make deals

with demons and it does never works out what

right so and then the season 2 the other brother

dies and then you know they they find a way around

that and then you know the season 3 the other

brother dies and then you know it goes back and

forth every season they die and then they come

back they die and they come back and you know

there's different methods for every way and so

this recent season it started to play the same

game the same song and dance because last last

season the one brother was supposed to be closing

the gates to hell and he started this ritual

which he did the first two And then the last

one was you have to cure a demon. And you use

like you use like holy blood kind of thing and

you just fill them with it and then it brings

them back to being human. Well, they had the

king of hell and they were going to do it. And

then this one brother was dying and the other

brother didn't want him to die. So they had to

stop the ritual. So I know this is all over your

head, but it's I'm putting it in like plain terms

without actually having to watch it. Um, I'm

I'm following I'm following but um, so this season

You know, they they kill this knight of hell

that's supposed to be stronger than you know,

certain other people well because the the brother

that Saved the other one the previous season

This is like the badass one. The other one's

like the the intellectual one. So the badass

one gets this because they try and tie it into

like ancient mythology or the Bible or Like everything's

kind of intertwined between angels and demons

and creatures and everything else, but So he

got this mark of Cain so of like Cain and Abel

from early Bible and Cain at some point became

a demon, but he's got this blade that can kill

angels and demons Hmm because it's like a blade

that He like more or less made somehow through

But anyways he died at one point and It brought

him back as a demon. Well, they don't tell you

that it brought him back. They just make you

think that he is a demon and so After he transferred

his power to this brother this brother kills

this knight of hell and the blade basically becomes

like an addiction to kill. So he tries to kill

this evil angel who's pulling the strings and

it's Booger from Revenge of the Nerds. Oh my

god, so he's like this this pompous like ass

and he's like he's supposed to be the scribe

of God So he just writes his own like he's like,

oh this would make for a great story and blah

blah blah and he's got like this like this crazy

grin and he just something about him bothers

me in the show, but I like the the king of hell

more than I like half these villains that are

coming out because He follows his word. He's

bad, but he'll help them out so anyways this

brother that's the badass that has the sword

tries to kill this scribe of god and this scribe

of god more or less grabs a blade and shoves

it through his chest essentially beginning his

death and then he leaves then You know, of course

that that brother dies At the end of the episode

Let me ask you really quickly it seems like there's

a lot of death between these two brothers throughout

this entire show What exactly is supernatural

about them dying? The ways that they die and

come back, okay, there's like that some of them

get possessed some of them get You know killed

by demons some of them get killed by creatures

some of them have you know It's you know some

ritual that they had to do will kill them. You

know just it varies from season to season but

They did something unexpected They had the king

of hell who's like kind of friends with them

working with them He narrates at the end and

The the intellectual brother is trying to make

a demon make a deal with this king of hell To

bring his brother back, which the other brother

had done for him at one point and the king of

hell is standing in the other room with the dead

brother and He says, you know, you know, your

your brother is trying to bring you back and

blah blah blah and He says, you know how predictable

and and then Basically starts making fun of the

show like breaking the fourth wall almost with

you know, oh, you know you you die and then you

try and bring him back and he dies and he tries

to bring you back and you know, it's the same

old song and dance over and over and Then he

says oh I may have forgotten to mention something

about the blade and about Kane and he says that

the grip of the blade doesn't Doesn't let go

even in death Lord so he says he says this and

he says you know Feel what I feel see what I

see Mm -hmm, and then he says time to wake up

and then the brother opens his eyes and it's

black Which is the the demon eyes? Which means

now he's back as a demon not as himself like

he's himself, but he's a demon now so it so which

brother is the demon Sam or Dean? Dean. Dean

the Demon. Great. He became a demon, which it

says that they're going to, you know, because

the blade brought him back and because he was

in hell at some point. They both were at some

point, but. So. They're leading the season 10

season 10 theoretically should be, and I feel

would be best if they ended it. And this is why.

Sorry for anybody that I spoiled all this crap

for but it's I've I've got it figured out and

I was also reading something that fell on the

same lines after but They said that The the brother

that's the demon now They're they're saying that

he's gonna end up working with the king of hell

and they're gonna end up going against because

Sam Dean we're friends with this angel Castiel

which and Crowley is the king of hell so there's

a demon on the one side with the demon brother

and then there's the the regular brother with

the angel on the other side so now it's gonna

be a heaven and hell battle again with these

brothers pitted in the middle fighting each other

and Mind you Sam never completed the ritual in

the previous season Mm -hmm on the king of hell

so it leads you to believe that the king of hell

and Castiel are going to battle and Sam and Dean

are going to battle but the outcome is going

to be I Feel this is how it's going to end. Anyway,

is that Sam is going to complete the ritual on

Dean? Because from the very beginning you can

tell that One brother is always going to stay

dead by the end of it, and the other one is going

to live. And it's always been of the opinion,

because Dean was the first brother that... He

was the second brother you saw, but I believe

that he'll be the one that stays alive. Because

I think Sam will cure Dean of his demon part

of him. Which will bring him back from the dead

and stop him from being a demon and then Sam

will die Because that's how you finish the ritual

is that just it kills them But they can never

come back after that so it's kind of a I think

that that's how they're gonna end in so Just

have to wait and see but that's that's kind of

they left those doors open on purpose I think

Yeah Honestly, to me what it's going to end up

being, and you know, I've never watched the show.

I've seen bits and pieces of episodes. That's

why I was able to follow along with your common

sense logic. But, um, it's going to depend on

honestly, I think the outcome of the story is

going to depend on which star they want to keep

alive, release it like seriously, whether they

want to keep, um, uh, Jensen Ackles or Jared

Padalecki alive. The funny thing is, is this

show never, I say this and I'm sure it probably

would have happened at some point, but this show

might never have happened if Jensen Ackles hadn't

been originally a guest star on Smallville. It

probably would have. And I guess originally he

read for Sam. oh wow they wanted him to play

Sam and he likes the character being better so

he took Dean which he definitely fits yeah he

does yeah and he was only in smallville for like

a year and a half while he was in season 4 22

episodes so wait Supernatural the anime series

they made an anime series out of it. It was the

first season done over again They did the first

episode and then they had some other guy do the

voiceover I Didn't even it it doesn't register

on my radar. Okay, I Just didn't know that is

all as They say with Teen Titans Yeah, not in

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And because we didn't mention this at the very

beginning of the show since we're closing it

out here, this has been an Altered Geek Geekcast

Radio Crossover. Altered Geek, I believe it's

episode 43? 42. This is Altered Geek episode

42, and this is Geekcaster Radio episode 64.

My idea behind this was Steve and I would just

do a straight, cold opening, not do any real

introductions, and just have a discussion. And

for GCR, it's going to be random fandom part

one, because I'm going to be doing multiple episodes

of this for GCR at some point in the future.

So yeah, now we go to the Altered Geek feedback,

because we need to bring up the feedback from

last week's Altered Geek episode, so take it

away. So, last week anyway, we were talking about

TV shows, cable, season finales, everything else

along those lines, so we have a couple questions.

One comes from Justin Washington saying, So what

do you guys do when the shows end for the summer

and we get into repeats? Any under the radar

show you can recommend to get into during the

summer? That's kind of what I was alluding to

earlier in this episode. I don't notice a lot

of repeats because I don't watch the big networks

as much as I used to, like say... 15 years ago

With all the cable stuff that's going on right

now. It's almost like there are no repeats because

cable networks just There'll be a random episode

of let's say Rizzoli and aisles or white collar

or breaking bad or something like that There'll

be a random episode of that, but they usually

just start new shows like AMC has like three

or four new shows starting this summer I think

FX has at least four or five new shows starting

this summer Yeah, I I'm not watching anything

that's right now going on during the summer so

there's not much I can recommend The only one

I'm really watching is continuum Because it started

like a couple months ago I guess I'm like episode

9 or episode 8 or something like that for the

season I watch I watch whose line which is kind

of in there and out there It's it's random, but

it's it's been going on part of the time anyway

And truthfully there's not really that much different

than any other episode when you watch it, but

I I just I enjoy it I Have every season downloaded

because they don't want to put them on on DVD

Just crap because I like getting the blooper

reels and I have the one DVD that came out a

while back but But I mean that's that's pretty

much the only show I watch I don't really have

a lot of the cable channels Usually when for

whatever reason Comcast for the one of the lower

cable packages comes with 20 some odd channels

25 megabit internet and HBO for two years. I

have not really cared for anything I've seen

on HBO. I don't really watch it. I've tried watching

some of the shows on it. I've watched some of

the movies occasionally, but it depends on how

many times they play them. Think when I had HBO

before because they played the movie so many

times. I saw now you see me probably 50 times

And there were a couple other movies that were

like that that I saw What was the other one it

was the other magic one that had Steve Carell

in it the Incredible Burt Wonderstone, I think

I saw that just as many times I Could almost

quote the movie. I've seen it so many times So,

I mean, it's not bad, it's just they don't seem

to play anything new. And I don't really watch

TV shows off of those because I just call it

what you will, call it poor taste, call it just

personal preference. I just, I don't care for

any of it that's on there. I don't really go

towards the medieval or the, you know, for like...

If they had things like Game of Thrones or whatever,

I don't get into that kind of stuff. That's stuff

that my wife gets into more than I. I don't really

watch any of that. And then I've tried watching

Silicon Valley. It's interesting, but I found

it very boring. Again, that's just my personal

opinion. I watched a few episodes of it. I don't

really like dry humor Office space was an exception

Yeah But I I just I for some reason it just it

doesn't resonate with me so I think one of the

only times, one of the few times I've gotten

into like medieval kind of stuff was... I know

you hate this movie. A Knight's Tale. I love

that movie. I hate it. I just... You just don't

think there should be rock music in the Middle

Ages? No, I don't even hate that. I just don't

care. Yeah. It's... I'm not real big into that

era. No. What else we got for feedback? Well,

there was the comment about over -saturation

in news and marketing, which everybody kind of

jumped all around. Yeah, it's various answers.

Yes, some of them not to certain people's liking

Go read the comments on the latest AGU episode

people Yeah, that's all I'm good. I'm not retreading

that discussion Yeah, but um But I I did like

Brian Jackson's comment about He really sees

both sides and agrees that it's easy to avoid

the hype, but there's just so much of it anymore,

which I totally agree. And then, of course, he

says, people are so worried about content not

giving legitimate opinions, which you can never

worry about us not giving our opinion here on

Geekcast Radio Network. Exactly. because we're

always full of our opinions. Even if you don't

like them, we've got them. We've all been bashed

for it at one point, but again, it's an opinion.

And I mean, for the most part, we try and back

them up with reasons at least. And then he says

not to brown nose, but that's why I like GeekCast

Radio Network because recently it appears It's

more about the people less about the opinions

And then just empty news Love giving all the

sides and different takes too often sites are

just robots and spew the same opinion over and

over and over which We do tend to evolve over

time with our opinions. We don't like as you

know, you've seen with this show it's We went

batshit crazy when Affleck was cast as Batman

and then we were fine with it and then you know

For instance now there's the the rumor that Joker

might be in the film, which I think is a huge

mistake but if they do it they do it I Think

it's too soon. I Mean if they're gonna do the

Legion of Doom, he wasn't in that anyway, so

it doesn't matter So but you know again what

they're gonna do what they're gonna do and hopefully

it works out for the best but I just I It's one

of those kind of scenarios, you know, you kind

of Know where everybody's gonna get on their

soapbox and you know You know whether it's gonna

be good or it's gonna be bad. So and see that's

the thing lately Like I said earlier in this

episode. I have been whole that's usually why

I Sometimes will bring up stuff that you and

booth have already talked about because I wouldn't

may not have been on that episode of altered

geek on the altered geek side, but I have been

holding my tongue on a lot of my opinions on

a lot of the stuff. Now, are you holding it because

you don't want to get bashed or because you're

waiting to see more legitimate information before

making an opinion? I want more. You know, the

bad suit is the bad suit. I honestly want to

see, I mean, I like the new bad suit. I honestly

want to see like a full God no, I don't want

to see I was gonna say full frontal, but no I

want to see like I had I want to see like a headshot

or a you know That's what she said, too How long

is this Proceed I want to see like headshot photo

of Affleck in in the suit or something like I

want to be able to see him and the image we've

seen so far is basically just him looking down

like I said Batman like you know yeah but you

know I keep i guess it's not more so that i want

to hold my tongue in fear of me getting bashed

for just putting out just putting an opinion

out there or it's not so much as me waiting for

more information it's me waiting to see what

other people say and then form my own opinion

once i see whatever it may you know if it's man

of steel 2 or if it's you know what you know

whatever if it's x -men seven or eight or whatever

the hell number they're up to now um you know

i'm more so holding my tongue because i want

to see if number one i want to see the whatever

it is film tv show i want to see it and make

my own opinion but i want to see what other people

are saying first at this point it's kind of like

if you were in an office and you're the last

guy at the water cooler And you just hear the

remnants of everybody else's conversation. That's

kind of what I've turned into. Oh God, I just

realized I'm almost becoming a Milton. Oh God.

I'll put strychnine in the guacamole. I believe

you have my stapler. Yes, I believe you have

my stapler. If you could do that, that would

be great. Yeah. Don't forget those TPS rewards.

What else we got for feedback? Yeah, Jared Kessler

says, backing up Brian, that... He says, I was

getting to the point with all the crazy hype

and over -marketing was driving me buggy. I cut

the cord as much as possible. Did some serious

Facebook and Twitter trimming, which I do defending.

I usually just put filters so I don't have to

see certain comments about certain things, like

whenever Beaver pops up in the news and get glue

or points. That's another thing. I never have

to see those again. Well, now that Get Glue has

become TV tag, I find myself using it less and

less. Not that I dislike the new direction, but

it's not as addicting as it used to be because

they alienated a lot of their user base when

they cut out a lot of different things that you

could check into. Every now and then you'll see

me checking in to get a sticker for a TV show

I might be watching or something like that but

like right now there are no TV shows that I'm

watching that I have the absolute need to check

into. So I have almost like stopped using TV

tag altogether. What else? Well, going through

some more. Justin Washington also says, I don't

see Batman vs Superman becoming a header for

each movie like The Hunger Games or Twilight.

That's normal for book adaptations to do, but

I assume the title will be different for the

Justice League films. At least I hope so, otherwise

you'll have Batman and Superman fighting every

movie. Yeah, you know... I can see it. Yeah,

Batman vs Superman. I think they're just doing

that for this coming up film in 2016. Because

here's the thing, what if Batman vs Superman

The Dawn of Justice is the first Justice League

movie? That's what you and I have been saying.

Well, I've been saying that since day one, but

especially with the casting of other people calling

it what it is, people. Also, I think DC is trying

to go in a different direction I think some of

those characters are gonna get their own films

like obviously Batman at some point the rest

of them It's kind of up in the air depending

on their popularity in the combined films, but

I think that DC is going to jump Instead of doing

all these individual films and then leading up

to a big film I think they're just gonna do a

bunch of big films. I Think they're gonna do

like Star Trek. They're gonna have you know,

they're six big films right in a row of the Justice

League. And then they're, you know, they may

sprinkle one in between here or there, but they're

not going to do like Iron Man one, Iron Man two,

Captain America, Thor, blah, blah, blah. Just,

you know, and then Avengers and then 50 other

films and then Avengers two. And it's it's I

think it's going to be all one. You know, it's

gonna be a six part film or it's gonna be a four

part film or depending on whatever They decide

to adapt and honestly, they should have called

this film world's finest Yeah, other than Batman

versus Superman that just it sounds so I'm trying

to find the right word, but it sounds so dumb

compared to it because it's a Giant superhero

fight tease is what it is. If you're gonna have

Batman for Superman, it almost sounds like Freddy

vs. Jason Yeah, or Alien vs. Predator. Let's

see those films were crap But crap because they

had the verses in there Yeah, so I can kind of

see that there, you know, that's why they had

to add the subtitle Dawn of Justice But It should

have been world's finest Dawn of Justice Yeah.

You know what I want out of Justice League movies?

I want them to just do straight adaptations like

what they're doing with the animated films. Like

honestly, I would love to see a live action new

frontier adaptation. I know it probably will

never happen because it needs to be in... You

know today's you know to keep the audience of

the mainstream audience of today It needs to

be some sort of today kind of thing I would love

to see them do a live -action adaptation of year

one or Well year one's not technically a Justice

League movie. Well, they already did that No,

I know maybe begins. Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm trying

to think of Justice League stuff doom I would

love to see a live, you know, adaptation of Doom.

See, and that could work as a Justice League

film being that, you know, it could be one of

the Justice League films. Right, right. You could

have war be the end, like be one of them, and

you could have Doom be one of them, I mean, or

completely original stories. But. It's yeah.

I don't know how we keep getting on that soapbox,

but. It's so easy to do. I know, I know. But,

you know, most of the GCR listeners haven't heard

that before, so there you go. True. And then

beyond humor, which made it, you know, humorous

part of it, it says, are people really calling

Frozen a masterpiece? I know people like it and

let it go is everywhere, but I haven't heard

anyone call it a masterpiece. Couldn't help myself.

You said you said I've heard several of my Facebook

friends call it that and then I said I wish people

would in terms of frozen let it go away and Bring

me another Pixar film already Yeah, you know

I've heard a lot of people throw the word masterpiece

around when it comes to frozen Frozen is by no

means at all in my top 20 Disney films of all

time in my personal top 20 if I was gonna make

it top 20 right now frozen would be like 21 22

it wouldn't even make the list I just even after

me getting over everybody being so excited about

it and talking about let it go and just people

saying online drop everything go see this film

now it's the best thing ever I waited I waited

a long ass time I saw it The whole time I was

more sympathetic towards the younger sister and

liked her and her character development better

than the older sister. And other than that, I

just didn't care for the movie at all. I came,

I saw, I decided to leave the theater. At what

point? Beginning, middle, or end? I didn't go

see it in theater, I don't think. No, I didn't.

Don't see why I I don't see in that film what

everyone else sees apparently as far as them

calling in a masterpiece and apparently now it's

like Fifth of all time box office or some story.

Yeah, they wouldn't let it leave the box office.

I know It's like, you know, we can't miss it

if it never leaves Yeah, really. It's like that

bad relative that just won't go home Get your

ass out of my house oh my god that reminds me

of the bob rivers group the comedy christmas

comedy group oh god that's so awesome oh yeah

anyway um anything else because i really need

to get to bed honestly no i i was done anyhow

i gotta edit yay edit i will say this Geek cast

radio Will be new soon Very new bright shiny

and new absolutely. It's gonna be spanking new

Yep, brand spanking new geek cast radio. We are

shattering the glass on it everything ladies

and gentlemen Yeah, up is down down is up left

is right right is left Diagonal is squared Oh,

I thought you were going to pull a Robin from

Young Justice Diagonal is just agonal. It's kind

of like, why is everybody underwhelmed or overwhelmed?

Why can't anybody just be whelmed? Why do people

have to be whelmed? Yes. To borrow a tagline

from one of the original Spider -Man movies,

the GCRN world is going to be turned upside down.

So you know, black is white and white is black.

Blue is red and blue and red together are purple

and Decepticons rule the universe. Yeah. So if

you could do that, that would be great. At least

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