1st Annual GCRN Awards Reveal

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Hello and welcome to GeekCast Radio. This is

episode 60 and it is time to reveal the first

annual GCN Awards. I am your host TFJ1Mike. Joining

me is Steve Megajon. Hello. Hello. And Moogarolt

Dan. Hello. How's it going? Yeah, we we have

we all three of us framed optimus solo and sent

him to jail and now this coming Friday as this

episode airs He's gonna come chase after us in

a bunch of need for speed cars. Oh wait. He hates

racing movies So we are here to reveal the first

annual 2014 GCR and awards Steve why don't you

give us some background as far as the process

well the overall process was a lot of back -end

work on the site, but we wanted to kind of, we'd

all kind of discussed it last year about putting

together our own award show, not really to detract

from the current award shows that are kind of

going out, but just kind of our own covering

some of the major. Stuff of course like best

movie and you know the performances and the fights

and special effects Like any good award show

would have but we also included some geeky ones

And some genre specific ones which aren't included

in some other Award shows also adding to the

mix of films we have television a brief animation

one and of course some geek cast radio awards

so there were five choices per category and we

kind of just went from there and The staff voted

one particular way and then Of course the fans

voted another way and I have to say that the

overall Voting we did get massive amounts of

votes Into the you know close to anywhere between

Like around 100 to 150 votes per category. So

there was that But it was kind of interesting

seeing being that I could see everything behind

the scenes which ones were getting knocked off

the top and Which ones were neck -and -neck and

which ones aligned with our votes? Very cool.

Very cool Dan you want to talk a little bit about

the process that you and Kevin did for the movie

award section of it Yeah, sure. Basically the

way we handle the movie section was we came up

with the first came up with the categories We

know we wanted to highlight movies in general,

but also like Steve mentioned have some genre

specific or specific categories that would Allow

for geek centric movies to take center stage

and what we did is I as we came up with the categories

I picked my choices for each category and kevin

picked his And then we put them together and

if there was a match we then obviously chose

that one and then if There wasn't one or there's

a disagreement. We would discuss we would discuss

it to see which one we think better fits Which

one do we think is better? Overall like has more

of the general appeal we try to consider our

opinion as well as just the general consensus

consensus out there in the public as well for

certain picks but um, and When we consider the

picks our first idea was quality first like that's

what we wanted to make sure like these are really

great movies Not necessarily that they're you

know, just because of the subject matter So that's

what we went to first and considering I think

Kevin and I have both huge movie geeks, which

to me means A more broader scale of movies in

general which can so but anyways, that's why

we specifically had categories for like best

fight and best Comic book movie and stuff like

that That way we made sure we didn't leave those

out in the cold because they certainly deserve,

you know spotlight The funny thing is I see both

of you as the gcrn version of cisco and ebert

I guess we know who's who then All right, so

how are we gonna reveal these Steve? Well before

we get into that how I kind of Because myself

and Mike Powers went and selected the TV categories

we each kind of set up certain categories and

then Through shows in there according to We tried

to include some popular ones as well as favorites

to kind of mix it in there a little bit, like

he would choose to, and I would kind of choose

to, but in the separation of the categories kind

of helped split it up a little bit more. Because

like for instance with the TV leads or the you

know having the drama comedy sci -fi All those

different things the intros I admit is a little

lackluster It was more so a space filler Just

getting that out right now But I'm not surprised

by what one in there in the slightest with a

close second for another one. So And then as

far as the GCR and stuff, those somewhat had

me surprised and then other ones did not. So

it was quite interesting seeing how that all

played out. But what was your original question

again? How are we going to go about revealing

these? Are we going to go each category? Yes,

we're going to go each category right down the

line in the exact order that it was on the site.

And I will preface this with saying that you

will not have to click through 26 times like

you did for the voting. I will also be changing

that structure next year when we do this again

hopefully. with a little bit better process in

place. But this will be more than likely a two

-pager setup so that everybody can kind of see

what the results were. So getting into the first

one we have of course the best movie category

Best movie So the winner here Kind of close to

some of the other ones For the fan vote was gravity

followed by the staff vote of her opinions Well,

not super surprised considering the choices that

we gave link gravity is Of all the choices the

most financially the hugest success. I am surprised

that though the second place It looks like Wolf

of Wall Street was in second place, which is

a little surprising to me. I Actually, no, I

think I'm incorrect. No, that was in fifth second

place was 12 years a slave I was looking at the

number of votes. No that yeah, that's that's

the number of votes Mike So yeah, I put them

in order as far as where they were on the graphic

so Okay, so that's surprising. I mean, I'm not

I mean gravity is a is a spectacle for sure It

was one of the biggest hits of last year one

of the few films in the top ten of financially

that wasn't based off a franchise or so so And

it was critically acclaimed as well. So not not

too surprising for me I'm not one that watches

a lot of best pictures. I'm more mainstream and

these movies to me are not mainstream films.

Gravity is essentially this generation's Apollo

13. I haven't seen it. I'm not judging the movie.

I'm just saying based on what I've seen and what

I've heard and what I've read about it, it seems

like it's this generation's Apollo 13. I could

almost get that just for the fact that it's getting

as much critical acclaim as Apollo 13 did at

the time. I have seen three out of these five

movies So I am not surprised at one I have my

own minor nitpicks, but it's more so just because

I Out of this group, I would probably say it's

the strongest one mm -hmm for gravity, but I'm

not generally a fan of what ends up in the best

picture for the most part. Yeah, me either. I

guess my question then would be, since Kevin

and I are the ones that came up with these nominees,

then what would you say deserves to be nominated

here that we didn't choose? See, I would angle

it more towards geek, because I'm not... My question

is what movies? That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't

like... Would I would be biased about it and

angle it more towards something geeky like Transformers

like Iron Man like Captain America something

like that is what I would do. Yep I'm talking

about like in movies in 2013 Like what geeky

films would you have placed in the top five in

the end with I'm just curious you're saying these

aren't films You're interested in which is fine.

So my question was more so than what would you

have placed here? Fast and Furious 6 The Wolverine

Iron Man 3 I can't think of the other two, but

I'm just saying it's like for me personally it

just isn't The best picture category is always

films that I've never even heard of half the

time. Yes I've heard of her. Yes. I've heard

of 12 years of Slave because I have been listening

to MWIRE weekly So I mean I know of these movies

they just don't interest me whatsoever And I

guess I would reply to the saying like these

aren't geek films by saying they're very much

geek films. I don't I hate the idea that we define

geek based upon the simplest factors, that a

movie geek is someone who likes franchise films,

or a movie geek is someone who likes comic book

movies. To me, a movie geek is a person who is

geeky about movies. And I think all these films...

Qualified for that and her it's but even beyond

that is a very much in the geek culture What

it comments on and what it what its themes are

about are very much in the line of geek culture

today technology our addiction to it and Beyond

just that so that's when when that's the way

I approach I guess that's my issue with when

we define the term geek We're very limited in

that view of it and we see it. This is the only

way and it's either it's a really broad term

that we We think that if you're not into comic

book movies or you're not into like Fast and

Furious 6 and that's not a geek movie and I just

I don't feel that way well see I can I can definitely

relate to that and Mike I know is a franchise

and comic geek and racing I And I know Mike tries

to but I try a little bit harder to see movies

that are outside of my range There are some that

I just, I give it the good shot and I still don't.

Like I try and go into it with an open mind and

then after a while certain things start grating

on me a little at a time. But like Wolf of Wall

Street I think would have been better had it

not had so much swearing in it. It was kind of

jarring and it kind of pushed me out of that.

Certain things like that were kind of Little

things were bothering me, whereas I can kind

of get where Mike's coming from where superheroes

type stuff. You kind of put the blinders on even

though you know there's significant flaws. Take

Iron Man 3, for instance. It's a lethal weapon

with Iron Man suits. So yeah, I guess that's

my like wouldn't like I said when we when we

came up with these like the idea was I know this

is gonna be an issue because people are talking

about it which is why I wanted to bring it up

was the idea like all these aren't geek movies

and I just that to me is just what kind of aka

grinds my gears a little bit when like when geeks

try to hold take hold of that statement and saying

it has to fit in this box and It doesn't fit

in this box. It's not part of keep them. I don't

think that's really true So that's my only issue.

I mean, if you don't like these movies, that's

fine. I mean, apparently there was a great deal

of people out there that did like these movies.

But when we try to come up with a category, like

I said, our our idea was quality first. We weren't

going to put something here just because of subject

matter. We weren't going to put an Iron Man 3

here because it didn't deserve to be. If we did

this two years ago, yeah, we probably would have

put the Avengers and Dark Knight Rises because

they deserve to be. But last year was kind of

a lackluster year for geek movies. It really

wasn't that many great stuff. I kind of agree

with you there. I didn't like this year. I really

can't. I really can't argue with what got placed

where it did this year because there really was

no other good films that could have made these

lists. And that's that's kind of so I don't fault

you guys or go beyond that point or whatever.

It's and I. Definitely agree. You know if there

were adventures or Dark Knight Rises. Yeah, I

could have seen these on there, but It was a

totally different comic year last year, and I

don't think that they were up to par like hopefully

this time next year we'll be talking about a

X -Men for days of future past because For love

of God hopefully that lives up to the possibility,

but this year just it wasn't really I mean even

Star Trek in the darkness Which we did nominate

for best bet science fiction like even Star Trek

fans really hated that movie So it's like they're

writing anyone I'm a huge Star Trek fan and I

was tearing that movie apart. I mean, I'll get

into something like that eventually in MWIRE,

but it's yeah, it's got definitely its flaws.

So the least voted on item in the best movie

category was Saving Mr. Banks. And then, of course,

like I said before, the highest was Gravity and

then our pick was her for a grand total of 138

votes. Okay, I mean that's good to see that amount

of votes. That's it's pretty awesome Best male

performance So jumping into male performances

We have the nominees of Tom Hanks as Captain

Phillips we have the I Cannot pronounce his name

chair tell a Geo for I'm glad you're here. For

12 years a slave Joaquin Phoenix in her Matthew

McConaughey Dallas Buyers Club and then Oscar

Isaac and inside Lewin Davis. And the winner

of this category for the voter end was Tom Hanks

and Captain Phillips for a grand total of 33

votes. And the staff pick was Joaquin Phoenix

in her Then of course the lowest voted on item

or nominee was Oscar Isaac and inside Lewin Davis

for 13. So it's a grand total of 121 votes here.

That's kind of crazy because what like five votes

separates the third place finisher with the first

place finisher with Tom Hanks with McConaughey

was only two votes behind and then Chotel was

only a few votes after that. So that's that's

kind of crazy. He just He just lost so McConaughey

might have the Oscar but Tom Hanks has the geek

cast radio award, which honestly what's more

important? No, I will say that it was kind of

neck -and -neck between Matthew McConaughey for

a while and Tom Hanks on The voting as I was

checking it So it was kind of interesting watching

it kind of climb higher I'm not I'm not familiar

with really any of these films in this category.

So And some people are watching asking probably

looking at the suffix that her one best movie

in walking Phoenix best Male performance and

that's a large part because her somehow ended

up being my favorite film of the year Last year

and so and Kevin's and we have very different

not very different but different taste in film

So somehow they align with that movie. So that's

why it's taking a lot of the staff votes Best

Female Performance Female performances we have

the winner of the fan vote being Sandra Bullock

in Gravity for 36 votes and the low -end vote

was Olivia Wilde in Drinking Buddies for 16 votes

and the staff pick was Amy Adams in American

Hustle That kind of surprises me considering

that um Neither Dan or Kevin really cared that

much about American Hustle as far as I can remember

we both liked it And Amy Adams was my favorite

female performance of last year. There are issues

I had with that movie, but one issue I didn't

have was Amy Adams in that film. I thought honestly

even after seeing Blue Jasmine that I still think

she's my favorite female performance last year.

She had a character that was very layered and

very complicated, and she really, really nailed

that. But overall, yeah, like we had our issues

with that movie. But Sandra Bullock, like kicking

butt, that to me is a little bit surprising because

I know people like that performance, but I had

assumed kind of Amy Adams would take it because,

you know, she, let's just say her wardrobe is

very geek friendly. Yes. Do you say that? Dan

would you say that gravity is kind of pushed

her? Back into the limelight again because it's

been a little it. I mean, I know she had oh What

was that? With the blind the blind I know she

had the blind side, but Like this seems to have

really pushed her back into her early Popularity

back in like the late 90s and stuff. Would you

say that it has done that or she's been I mean

She's been pretty steady last few years because

not only like not only the blindside, but she

had the proposal which was a pretty big hit I

wasn't a big fan of that film, but it was a big

hit plus she was in the heat this early the summer

Which was also a pretty big hip maybe more so

from Elizabeth McCarthy more than her but I think

this kind of for a lot of people who weren't

big fans of the blind side, myself included,

this is kind of the performance that sold her

because personally, this is my favorite performance

of hers that wasn't like a comedic performance.

So but I do think it kind of shows that she's

an actress to be, you know, to be respected.

And she wasn't just like a one hit wonder like

you have sometimes, like with those actors that

get an Academy Award and then don't do anything

afterwards, you know, like Cuban Gooding Jr.

or other people like that. So. Yeah, let's face

it Cuba Gooding jr. Is only good for showing

people the money Yeah, I'm pretty sure she has

a lot of bill collectors asking him that same

thing right now But yeah, I I can kind of see

why everybody voted for Sandra Bullock though

and in gravity because she did do quite a wide

range of emotion and She pretty much carried

the whole film Yeah, it was pretty much her.

I mean there was Little for her to rely on besides

just herself. So so I mean something to be said

by those Yeah, so I mean I can I can see where

she got all as much a claim as she did But I

was my vote was Amy Adams so Moving on to the

next category we have the best fight action sequence

best fight action sequence No surprise to me

the winner of this is the Pacific Rim battle.

Yes, the infamous Jaeger versus Kazoo Tokyo battle.

Yes with a grand total of 38 votes and it's pretty

much neck -and -neck for the rest of them The

the low end of the voting scale was Thor for

the portal battle at 20 votes and the staff pick

was Pacific Rim. Yeah, I kind of thought Midair

Rescue from Iron Man 3 had a shot because that

was a pretty pretty awesome sequence in that

film just in how it was shot. It looked like

they literally did that in real life. But for

like probably one of the most if talking about

a bad geek here for movies, one of the big geek

highlights was Pacific Rim. I know not for Mike,

but A lot of people love that film, and the one

moment people go to the most is that famous Tokyo

battle. It looks fantastic. It's a lot of fun.

A little bit of humor thrown in. And just big

robots fighting big monsters. And it looks fantastic.

Can't really ask for more for a summer blockbuster.

Let's clarify something, people. Humans in giant

robots. It's G .I. Joe all over again. No, it's

Pummer Masters. Or Headmasters. OK. yeah think

of it that way now watch the movie any better

um next category all righty best special effects

the next category we have is best special effects

and with resounding almost 25 plus It's not 25

plus, but it's almost that way vote it wins at

50 votes and that is gravity and The low -end

special effects is as the great and powerful

The staff pick was of course gravity Yeah, there's

really there's really no question here. I mean

gravity even on CGI a lot lies and just Generally

how that film was shot. It was watching the special

features of that movie. You just realize how

Incredible that movie was to be made literally

making technology days before the movie was shot

in Alfonso Cuaron kind of Redefining the way

you can shoot in space probably the first time

since you know 2001 in space odyssey that has

weightlessness actually been so effective so

it's a no -brainer I Just saw I was the great

and powerful maybe about a month ago or so it

had come on stars and um i enjoyed it i enjoyed

it a lot more than i thought i was going to considering

it's a story that takes place before dorothy

but i thought it was really good i thought the

The color effect from black and white to color.

I thought that was a nice little transition white

But I mean going up against gravity, of course,

it's not gonna win Well, anytime you get space,

it's pretty much guaranteed to win for the most

part Compared to anything else. So that means

next year Transformers is gonna win, right? It's

not in space It might be you never know they

might go back to Cybertron Although you might

see days of futures past kick its butt. So that's

true, too or Captain America or something along

those lines. But yeah, I'm kind of surprised

Oz got as low as it did, or Thor for that matter,

but I would definitely argue that the other three

had more things that weren't as easy to conjure

up, whereas Oz, everything that was in that was

pretty much done before at some point. True.

To me Oz had a really, there are moments in Oz

that really impressed me but there are a lot

of moments that just looked really like you could

see the blue screen and just it was a little

bit uneven. Sometimes it was like looked really

good and other times it was just like the porcelain

doll and that was fantastic the way that was

portrayed but other times when they're like going

through the world and stuff like that it just

didn't feel like they were there. Well, they

were working in a giant blue screen warehouse

in Pontiac, Michigan There's ways to do that

make it make it seem real and that just didn't

do that It just I think it could have been just

the coloring of it just didn't seem it seemed

a little off If the listeners go back and watch

very very carefully Steve is one of the munchkins,

right? I would have loved to have been on set.

I'm actually like an hour drive from there. So

I'm gonna try and attack Batman, Superman. Which

we'll also be shooting there. So moving on, we

have the best opening. And no surprise again,

Gravity takes another one away at 39 votes. And

the low end here... the place beyond the pines

Pick is gravity. Yeah for those What makes the

opening of gravity so fantastic is the how it's

done in an uncut? It's uncut for a good ten minutes

or so It's one fluid motion from the opening

shot to basically until it all goes to hell I

found the Koran who of course is infamous for

his long takes. I mean, especially with something

like children of men That's where it's a little

bit probably a little bit more complicated because

you don't have cgi helping you but it's just

His camera work just is very fluid in that film

and it's put on display right away and how it

opens up with like You know just the earth and

it holds on that and it allows it like the shuttle

to Quietly and quick and slowly come into play

and then allows everything to play out. I think

it is It's a moment that to me sold the film

immediately and let you know that this was not

just gonna be your typical, you know space adventure

Yeah, it was kind of interesting watching that

how that took place It was kind of weird seeing

it just all of a sudden you're in space so And

then everything starts going wrong I I do really

I was hoping the place behind to get a little

bit more love I know a lot of people a lot of

people I talked to were like I don't really see

anything special with that opening and I can

kind of see that but if you go back and you watch

the beginning of a place beyond the pines which

may be a movie that a lot of people have not

the opportunity to check out it's again one fluid

cut it stays with one shot up into like uh well

Ryan Gosling gets into this like crazy like carnival

uh biker ring thing and it just it's the way

the camera works with and that was also really

fantastic and and then something with it you

look at a American Hustle, which is literally

just Batman putting on a wig But it's it it's

one of those jokes that it holds on it for so

long It's really funny and then where it leads

to just it's just a great payoff. So That's standing

Alrighty, so moving on we have the best ending

Which gravity is not among the group? Captain

Phillips runs away with it at 46 votes and the

low is open grave at three The staff pick was

prisoners. I don't even think I even heard of

the name that film open grave That was actually

Kevin's pick. So I haven't had the opportunity

to check it. Unfortunately, he's here not to

kind of go over it but uh Not surprised Captain

Phillips ending was pretty amazing from the last

50 minutes to like when it all comes to conclusion

to Tom Hanks's final moments in that movie Which

are to me the like if you wondering why he won

best actor in our awards. It's for that last

Ten, you know five minutes or so which are just

Really just moving and really like hard to watch.

It's like one of the first times you see like

shock actually Depicted in a realistic fashion

and to me. It's what elevated Captain Phil is

beyond just a Thriller, but actually gave it

something a little bit extra. So I don't know

if you guys have the opportunity to see that

yet That's on my to -do list I'm I have seen

prisoners Which was interesting but the ending

was kind of Anti -climatic in a sense Purposely

in climate climate magic. I would say yes. I

I understood why they left it the way they did

It just did I was kind of like huh? Why? Did

they leave it the way they did for sequel purposes?

I don't know. I doubt it. It was more of a end

of story Best animated film So moving on to the

best animated film Oh God I'm sorry Mike We have

frozen with a resounding 42 votes The low end

of the spectrum we have the crude's at 9 and

the staff pick was frozen I thought dark knight

returns would have a shot just because we are

geek website, but I guess well It did. I mean

it's at 35. Yeah, it's true. It's not far off.

It's technically in second place I'm surprised

that Monsters University got lower than Despicable

Me 2 as much as I love Despicable Me 2. I'm I'm

really surprised that university didn't get more

votes And recently stars aired University and

Monsters Inc back -to -back, watching those two

films in order, simply amazing. They just are.

Well, they butt right into each other, and I

myself, The Croods, I didn't really care for

all that much. Despicable Me was good, the second

one. But I found myself liking Monsters University

more so than that. I have no gripes with where

frozen landed and the Dark Knight returns part

two I'm surprised it didn't get number one But

I'm also not because more people had the wider

exposure to frozen being in that it was a theater

Yeah Now, you know, we've talked about this a

little bit before do you Does anybody think that

DC should attempt to go back to theaters with

animation because The only one they ever did

was Mask of the Phantasm, and as good as that

movie is, it did not do well in theaters. I mean,

we all know they make their money in the direct

-to -DVD market, but I'm wondering if awards

for best animated feature would be higher for

superhero animation if it wasn't theaters. I

do think the market's so flooded now with comic

book movies, it would be a mistake because people

want live action. And the DVD sales aren't fantastic

for those movies. They're really good, but they're

not numbers you would look at and say, hey, this

could be this can make it in the theater. Maybe

if you had something like one of the biggest

tales done or something like that. But if I just

don't I just don't see it happening. I don't

think that a cartoon animated film has a crossover

appeal that a live action movie does, because

a live action movie can get. actors like a Robert

Downey jr. Or Christian Bale or get a director

behind it that people know and people Go to it,

but and I don't and I mean movie I don't know

I mean I want to be against it, but I just think

it it would it would be hard I would think that

they'd almost run the risk of like you said Dan

kind of flooding the market between the live

-action and the animation and confusing people

possibly because People kind of get said oh,

you know, did you see the one Batman movie? Which

one are you talking about or saying? No, I saw

the live -action one with so -and -so. No, I'm

talking about the animated one or I think mask

of the phantasm was it was one of those intro

things at that time because it was 1993 I myself

that was the first movie I ever saw in theater.

So I it holds a special place for me, but As

much as I'd like to see them hit theater, I don't

think that it would go over very well even today.

Even if there wasn't a live action superhero

film, I think that the animated stuff just, I

don't think, because people are gonna wanna go

more towards the Disney's or the DreamWorks or

for instance, the Lego movie or the Mr. Peabody

and. So I mean there's there's that that's gonna

conflict with it. It's funny like you brought

that up Mike and I didn't even think the fact

that Disney animation is doing that pick here

six movie, which is An animated love future that

will be released in theaters, which is a comic

book movie So yeah, I guess that'll be though.

That's not like a well -known property. So I

don't know. Do you guys think that Disney is

gonna turn Frozen into a sequel farm? I don't

think so. They haven't really done it yet with

any of their films with Tangled or Wreck -It

Ralph. So maybe direct -to -video stuff. I hope

they don't because that's what ruined the 90s

Renaissance is when they got all the ridiculous

sequels. Well, do you want... Pixar to do another

Monsters film. Because after seeing University

and Ink back to back, you know, in order, I would

like to see what happens after with those characters.

Even if it's not necessarily a full -on film,

but like Disney does these shorts, like they

did Tangled ever after, they do the Toy Story

tunes and all that. Well, to me, I think that

it would be alright if the story was right. It

was kind of a fluke that Monsters University

worked out as well as it did because generally

with Pixar the second film doesn't do so well

as the first film and If they happen to hit,

you know, like Toy Story 3 They happen to Hit

the emotional chords and actually get close to

the first one plus some Whereas the second one

I enjoy it, but I don't enjoy it as much as three

It's kind of one of those tricky double -edged

swords that you can either land on the flat side

and be okay or impale yourself and screw the

franchise. I don't know how I feel about them

doing another Monsters film, now like an Incredibles

film. I think would be would be okay in today's

age. I don't want them to turn frozen into a

sequel farm I think it kind of had its own nice

ending where it was and I I don't know I'm kind

of leaning more towards Like Disney I enjoy more

of their original stuff than I do most other

companies but as far as the animated stuff is

concerned, but Yeah, I mean I wasn't a huge fan

of Monsters University. I thought it was okay

I thought unlike other Pixar films didn't really

transcend the material that it that it was depicting

So I would not be in favor of another Monsters

movie. I want Pixar to get back to original material

again I would I love to see them stop doing sequels

though an incredible sequel would be acceptable

as long as Brad Bird was behind it But I don't

know. I'd rather just see them get back to new

original ideas because I I kind of miss that

from Pixar Well, what I've read is they're saying

about every three years, they're going to do

a sequel. Yeah. But every year they're planning

on doing an original project. I know that I've

heard rumblings that there's a Toy Story four

in the works, which I think is a mistake because

one, the actors are getting older and two, it's

just they I think they kind of wrapped it up

nice and three. There's no need for another one.

Yeah, I agree. Finding Nemo. I can kind of get

the second film. because it's been years later

and the story's supposedly right which again

that's the same story same thing with Incredibles

2 if they were to do it I think that the story

needs to be right I don't think that they need

to just make it to make it agree so I think we'll

move on to the best comic book movie best comic

book film Some of them are close The grand winner

of this category is iron man 3 at 33 votes and

the low is kick -ass 2 with 10 the staff vote

was iron man 3 Yeah, I'm surprised everybody

does like that movie I'm surprised kick -ass

2 got 10 votes. Honestly, uh Literally, we nominated

every comic book movie that came out last year

Yeah, it wasn't a big year though. I like I thought

they were all solid films I mean kick -ass to

a side, but I think I'm in three winning is is

legitimate though I I just rewatched the order

dark world and the more I watched that movie

the more I really I really dig it but uh Yeah,

I'm gonna have to watch it again. I just the

first time I saw Thor even with Brian Tyler's

amazing music as I listen to the music before

I did the movie and Just I was just one of those

things You know and I watched the movie and I'm

like I've seen this before huh more of the same

themes blah blah blah and So I'm gonna have to

go back in and give it another try and see if

I enjoy it more Iron Man 3 Everybody always you

know rags on that movie Oh, this is not the Mandarin

and I was even one of them with the whole Mandarin

swap because that wasn't the Mandarin that I

knew but I understood what Shane Black was going

for there. He was going for their own, the Marvel

Cinematic Universe's own version of the Mandarin

and they basically had two versions. You had

the classic You know the way he looked with Ben

Kingsley and then you had kind of the more modern

with with Killian Everybody complains. Oh, he's

not in the suit enough. He's not in the suit

enough, and oh, it's just you know It's just

another it's just another Iron Man 2 Iron Man

3 takes place after Avengers. It's you know Tony

Stark is psychologically damaged anyone would

be if you went through a wormhole into space

and he used to be a drinker so yeah you know

the dude is like I said he's just not there in

this movie he's he's out of it half the time

and by the end he does come around what I liked

about iron man 3 was if I was gonna probably

pick a suit that I really enjoyed the most is

probably the the mark 42 sure you have to inject

nanites into yourself to be able to control it

but I mean a remote control a remote controlled

suit of armor that's pretty awesome I do like

how they kind of fit in the Hulkbuster armor

at the end I thought that was cool I didn't so

much mind The kid everybody else that I talked

to seemed. Oh my god They're putting another

kid into a movie and oh my god. It's this and

oh my god. It wasn't that bad Yeah, I had no

issue with that kid I thought it could could

have been a lot worse and I kind of like the

fact that they had the opportunity to kind of

get melodramatic but you know in a way kind of

made fun of it and Steve I know you talked about

how I'm in three was very much influenced by

the you know 80s action comedies like lethal

weapon and 48 hours and stuff like that Which

it was done by the guy that did some of the lethal

weapon Yeah, so my shame black who wrote lethal

weapon and he drafted kiss kiss bang bang Which

is the movie that kind of relaunched Robert Downey

jr. And I like that actually I like taking I

mean I think those homages are blatantly there

on in there as more of like a respect and I Liked

how he was out of the suit and it had interesting

action set pieces. Like we talked about the midair

rescue, but I also really love the one gunfight

which he's possibly partially armored. And you

talked about the Mandarin. Well, I don't know

if you guys saw the most recent Marvel one -shot

that's on the Thor Blu -ray, All Hail the King,

but without giving spoilers away, those who are

complaining about the Mandarin, all I say is

check that out and you might change your mind.

No, I mean, I kind of agree with, like, I've...

seen all of them. Man of Steel, I kind of enjoyed

it, but not to the degree I did some of the other

films. Thor, I'm not a huge fan of Thor, although

I would argue that this film is better than the

first one. Kick Ass 2, while enjoyable, is a

shut your mind off kind of movie. I wouldn't

say that it's a good movie by any means, but

it was kind of... fun to watch and I say kind

of it didn't have sorry but the Wolverine I enjoyed

although I had my issues with it it was it was

okay but it was kind of to me like another origins

X -Men like the of the wolf of Wolverine not

not necessarily the first class but just the

other one and then Iron Man 3 of course I mean

although it was lethal weapon ask I enjoyed it

more than any of the other films here. With regards

to the Wolverine, since even though as of this

episode Marvelous March has not started yet over

in the poll bag, Ryan Porter from Positively

Nerdy and I went through Wolverine by Claremont

and Miller, where most of that story is kind

of taken from, about him going back to Japan

and everything else, and I gotta say, The Wolverine

was so much better than Origins. It was so much

better than X -Men Origins. I definitely agree

with you there. I was saying that to me it's...

It's just another... It's like them telling the

same story again. But this focuses more on his

life in Japan, I think. And it does. You know,

X -Men Origins was... rehash of x2 with him going

back to alkali lake and all this and all that

but it just The wolverine it was so much so much

better done that being said I don't know if I

could rank these films like best to worst from

my own personal taste because I Enjoyed each

of them minus Thor which I have to give another

shot to Thor and I will never watch kick -ass.

I will never watch that movie. It's alright The

first one is much better because it understands

that it's a satire the second one I don't think

does and it's not it's not done by Matthew Vaughn

who directed the first one and directed x -men

x -men first class and you can tell because it

doesn't it feels Less important and kind of in

on its own joke Yeah, everyone complains about

man of steel and oh my god superman should be

paying more attention to all the devastation

he's letting being caused and this what i liked

about man of steel was how they told the origin

story in flashbacks i liked that approach more

and it gave me more of a mystery as to who clark

really is than just going straightforward like

the original superman movie did I mean, I like

that. I like the original 1978 Donner film. But

I'm glad they didn't just do that again here

to be able to tell his origin. You know, everybody

says, Oh, I can't get killed by a tornado. Well,

what's What's more devastating to a child your

your father collapsing in the middle of a field

from a heart attack Or being swept away by a

tornado. I would think a tornado would be more

devastating yeah, but I guess the issue is that

the idea of I think that's kind of the issue

with a dose that it has to be something so grand

when having it something more small and intimate

is more powerful because it's Even like the power

of superman can't stop deaths from happening

to someone right? I mean, I like man of steel.

I didn't I gave it a pass. I didn't love it.

I didn't really hate it. Like I know a lot of

people have it's one of those That's like I think

the common thread with a lot of the geek films

last year Is that you have a people that love

them and you have a huge amount of people that

hate them. There wasn't really one universally

loved geek movie and except for maybe Pacific

Ram it comes to the closest but everything else

has factions on both sides The other reason why

I enjoyed Man of Steel is I enjoy it for what

it's potentially going to set up in later films.

Potentially is a good word. Well, that's because

they have this whole versus thing and that's

a topic for another day. No, no, that's a topic

for another day, but I'll say this. I wish they

wouldn't have announced that and wish they would

have just gone with a true Superman sequel before

bringing the Dark Knight in, but we'll talk about

that at some other time. So, getting into the

next category, we have Best Comedy. Best Comedy.

And this one has been kind of neck and neck,

and this is the one I almost had to have the

staff vote on, but thankfully the voters voted.

We have... This is the end at first place with

a close second being the world's end and then

our low bottom feeder of the comedy department

is the heat at 12 and the staff pick is this

is the end. I'll say this right now and then

I'll let you guys talk. I'm not a fan of current

-day comedy films anymore. The last two or three

years Every time I see a trailer for a comedy

film. It's like yeah, I don't care I don't know

what it is. It's just I Guess comedy comedy and

film has changed too much for me that I'm just

not interested. I just don't find it funny anymore.

I Don't know I I don't know I don't know what

to tell you but um Looking at these two categories.

I'm not surprised that I mean these two Films

this is the end and the world's and not to surprise

that they're neck -and -neck Knowing that the

world's end is directed by Edgar Wright who has

a huge following and this is the end was which

pretty much the the comedy of the summer I I

had a hard time myself picking both of them.

So that's kind of interesting that came down

to these two I Didn't love this is the end as

much on the first time watching it But I think

it is a comedy that does get funnier the more

you watch it It's it, you know, it's Seth Rogen

His in his writing partner and they can be you

know, it's it's still in our comedy But it's

actually smart and there's actually some interesting

things going on there and it's craziness But

to me, I think the actual better movie. I don't

know if the funny movie is the world's end because

there's more to it It's better attracted. It's

better acted like Simon Peggy was in that I think

it was probably the best performance of his career

in a comedic film, but it has almost like a Some

depressing moments in a way, but I don't know

I I think it wasn't the greatest year for comedy

But those two stood above pretty much everything

else For me I I've seen a few of these I haven't

seen all of them, but I'm not a fan of Seth Rogen

and his brood And then I'm not of course a fan

of British comedy So those pretty much killed

those two for me. I watched The Heat. I didn't,

it was alright. I don't really care either way.

Same thing with Werther Miller's. I enjoyed some

of the stupidity things that went on in it, but

it wasn't great either. But yeah, I just, I don't

think that it was a strong year for comedy, but

I don't foresee it being. I mean, I could be

proven wrong next year, but I don't foresee this

year being much better. Well, there is always,

you know, Jim and Jim and Jeff reuniting. So

that is true. Bright, shiny spot for 2014. So

you're saying there's a chance? Well, for one

film, yes. OK, you guys don't get the reference

to Dumb and Dumber. Come on now. So there is

a chance. Yeah, I remember. nice so best action

film giving me the next category we have best

action film and fast and the furious 6 takes

it away at 32 votes with the low being two guns

at nine votes and the staff pick was fast and

furious 6 I am so surprised that Two guns only

got nine votes. Like, you know, I knew Fast and

the Furious 6 was going to win just because it's

Fast and the Furious. And everybody that complains,

oh, it's just a race. It's not a racing franchise

anymore, people. It isn't. It stopped at three.

Well, it stopped at four. But yeah, they kind

of work it in, but they... As of Fast and Furious

4 they're more heist films. They're more action

-oriented. They're more story driven now and

what they did with Fast 6 and Fast 6 is the first

because the I Know you guys know this but the

listeners may not know this the the timeline

for Fast and Furious franchise. It's 1 2 4 5

6 and then 3 which is 3 is Tokyo Drift Actually,

no, it's four five three then six because six

is the first film to take place after Han dies

in Tokyo Drift And it's interesting to see how

they did that Fast and the Furious has become

a franchise that it it's like car racing for

For gun nuts because it's basically the expendables

version With cars because you have jason statham

now in both franchises Yeah, I mean the fashion

series films I personally was not a fan for a

very long time until the fifth one came because

I I always thought they were never big car racing

fan so i didn't have that much interest but when

the rock came in i kinda i got back on board

i i thought fast four was pretty horrible i did

see that the movie is really awful but the less

and less than diesel is the focal point the better

the movies have become hopefully that keeps it

stays the same i don't know i mean fast four

and fast six are essentially sequels to each

other because fast four they set up the whole

thing with letty And then fast six is where she

comes back so I mean That that franchise is one

of the most convoluted plots for such a like

blank brainless film It's just like all these

different timelines and stuff like that It's

kind of crazy, but the action set pieces are

pretty fantastic and it's you know It removes

logic and replaces it with craziness and fun.

So I can go for it's not everyone's cup of tea,

but I I do I do I did really enjoy fast six I

I do have to call out Gary Mike Justin and Chuck

for Not getting there. What's on Joe mine army

to get GI Joe to higher votes I Surprisingly

liked retaliation like I liked it's taken me

when did rise of Cobra come out Steve 2009 It's

it's taken me five years To enjoy different parts

of rise of Cobra and it's taken me USA basically

shoving it down the viewer's throat if you watch

the channel To to be able to actually somewhat

enjoy that movie, but retaliation was so much

better I had so many issues with the first film,

but the second film John shoot definitely kept

it close to at least the characterizations close

to what they should have been in the first film

despite the fact that none of the original cast

from the first film was in it except for Snake

Eyes and Duke and Storm Shadow Well, Duke died

fairly fast So they let you believe No, he's

dead. Well, there's your body. They never die.

They never showed a body. So they left it open

for a third film. He had other cut. They were

planning on killing him, but they reshot a lot

of stuff. So I'm almost betting that if they

the need arises and plus his schedule was busy,

they would have gotten them for a third film

if they do one. But I definitely enjoyed to especially

seeing Cobra Commander and a faceplate and. Snake

Eye is having a mask that doesn't have a mouth

and so on and so forth. And then seeing The Rock

and Bruce Willis in there of course are bonus

points. Definitely fitting in their roles too.

The other film that I enjoyed was Olympus Has

Fallen, which granted there was the other film,

The White House Down, which essentially is the

same damn movie. You either like one or you like

the other that's just how I've noticed when I'm

talking to people about it It's for me. I found

White House Down to be not as good as Olympus

is fallen But I think Gerard Butler pulls off

the the action role better than Channing Tatum

does Olympus has fallen was the best die -hard

movie of last year Yeah, that's and that's my

point Olympus has fallen if you would have put

John McClane in there that would have been shot

die -hard five easily Yeah, it would have been

better than Die Hard 5. Oh, definitely. And this

is something that I've talked to Mike about off

air is once a franchise goes on, you know what's

gone on too long when it jumps ship and goes

over to another country. Look at Police Academy.

Yeah. So it's once it goes over to that other

country, you're done. Yeah. And unfortunately,

they're doing a sixth Die Hard in another country.

When you mentioned John Chu kept G .I. Joe retaliation

on course, I was going to make a Star Trek joke,

but it's John Cho that's instead. Oh, God. Yeah.

Get it straight. Two different people. Yeah,

I know. All right. Speaking of science fiction.

That's our next category. Best sci fi. And winning

this category is, as expected, Gravity at 40

points. And the low for this category is World

War Z at 10. And the staff pick was Star Trek

Into Darkness. Yeah, though Pacific Rim is not

too far behind, only seven votes behind Gravity.

So that's that's a pretty strong showing. But

yeah, not too surprising. The funny thing is,

Trek is half. Yeah. As someone who had not seen

the original Wrath of Khan before seeing Into

Darkness, I went into Star Trek 2 fairly fresh.

There were several parts of the plot that I didn't

really care for, but the effects in that movie.

Mean 21st century seeing the Enterprise underwater

and come up out of the water. That was awesome.

Oh Come no, no, there's no way physically possible

for that ship to survive underwater It couldn't

in the original and it couldn't hear like it's

nice. There's no don't even get me started I'm

not saying I'm not saying it's possible in the

I'm not saying it's not cool. I just I it's it

it bothers me because from a scientific standpoint

and from a Star Trek standpoint, there's no freaking

way it could ever be underwater or get in. It

can float barely in the atmosphere like the original

Enterprise did, but there's still that's there's

so many issues with that film. I love it because

it's Star Trek, but I can pick pieces out of

Space Seed and all 10 previous Star Trek movies.

Yeah. And place them into this film. Yeah. That's

how many plot holes and used devices that are

just haphazardly thrown together and that's why

I say that that writing duel of Orsi and Kurtzman

should never do a sequel of any franchise. Yeah,

I just I think they should and like instead of

paying homage to to Wrath they should have just

Done a continuing adventure something else other

than what they did of this crew You got the first

movie in 2009 sets up the new crew and the new

cast members perfectly All the roles are are

very well filled as far as the old roles and

I just wish that they would have done something

a little bit differently. Do I dislike it because

it's Wrath of Khan? No, because I didn't have

any prior knowledge or I had never seen Wrath

of Khan until after I had seen this. But I'm

really interested to see what they do with the

next film in the franchise. Yeah, I mean, I'm

not a Star Trek fan, so I really... I did see

Star Trek 2 before I saw Into Darkness, but I

mean, the blatant or... homage or the kind of

the ridiculous homage aside my bigger issue was

the fact that 90 % of that story took place off

-screen it was pretty much telling you everything

that was happening and nothing was really shown

to you and I thought the con character was completely

wasted and had very little pointer I just thought

it was just an opportunity that they didn't take

advantage of Go ahead. I was gonna say but I

mean there were fun moments I mean, I did think

Cumberbatch's performance for what he had was

was good and I do like those characters and I

did like the you know, certain certain action

sequences were well handled and special effects

were we're well we're well done but on a story

standpoint like you said Steve it it had some

major plot holes or like I said or just simple

things just happening for me for no apparent

reason just because they're just happening. Well,

like the whole and I'm sorry if this is a spoiler,

but it's been out over a year now. The plot device

of Khan's Blood, which came into play and I'm

like, well, gee, I know what they're doing with

that at the end of the movie. And the whole aspect

of the swapping of roles and then saying this

is what you would have done and this is what

you would have done. That was just sloppy writing.

Yeah, and like the phone a friend to uh old spock

which was yeah, that was sloppy too. Um, and

just like it I was forgot what I was gonna say

and then that the plot device of khan's blood

of being this magical elixir then Becomes an

issue because and it's like well, then you just

cure everything more mortality by using this

blood sample that can pretty much cure everything

so I don't know it like you said there was some

sloppiness going on there it I didn't hate the

movie. I still liked it. But compared to the

2009 film, I thought it was a letdown. Yeah.

And I also think that they could have made Khan's

character stronger. And this is what I talked

about with Mike Powers, too, off air after we

watched it, that it would have been much better

if they had not had him turn evil because he's

evil. They could have reinvented the character

and had him hating Starfleet specifically for

the fact that of what Admiral Marcus did to him.

Yeah. And then that would have been his reason

and vendetta and everything, which was partially

it. But then he turned into this crazy tyrant.

So I you feel more sympathetic on the one end,

but then they also flipped it and mixed the original

story with it. So it kind of. I think it would

have been OK one way or the other, but not both.

But I'm again, not surprised that. Gravity walked

away on its own from the voters Yeah, so I think

we beat this with a dead horse so moving on to

best scenes That scene We have the winner of

that at 12 years a slave for the extended hanging

at 23 votes and the low for here is Captain Phillips

ending scene. The staff vote was 12 years a slave.

I'm surprised Captain Phillips ending scene got

last when it got like best closing. So that's

that's interesting. I guess people didn't vote

for it twice. To me, that the hanging scene is

the movie moment of the year when Kevin Optimus

soloed like he did a Article month or two ago

of its favorite scenes He put this as number

one and it's hard to disagree with and looks

like the fans also agreed but uh Looks like this

voting was super close I mean like I had similar

with 12 years of slave getting 23 votes the lowest

one on the totem pole captain Phillips got 17

so From the highest to the lowest was only six

votes, which is pretty crazy Yeah, I kind of

agree. And it's also kind of nice to see gravity

not take one away. I have to be brutally honest.

I'm surprised the Hobbit fans didn't get smog

up there. It did beat gravity. That's true. It

was second place. Which that that surprised me

because there was a lot of people who hated the

Hobbit too So but there seems like when we were

doing M bar, there was a lot of huge fans of

it So it seems like there are fans of that franchise.

So I Was a fan until they started doing the prequel

trilogy and then I had no desire to watch it

again Yeah, I would I would there's no need I

mean I've enjoyed the Hoppin movies, but they're

they're a huge step down from the the first three

and there is no reason that makes him in the

three movies. It easily could have been one or

two. Yeah. Well, that's kind of jumping on the

same bandwagon is like the Hunger Games, Harry

Potter, Twilight, where they split the last part

of the book or last book itself into two films

just to make a cash cow. Yeah, I would. I mean,

I think with Harry Potter actually made sense

because those last two movies, I think, were

actually were actually good on like And there

was actually a lot there to cover. So I think

that in essence it works for Harry Potter, but

pretty much everything else that's copied it.

I don't know about Hunger Games because we haven't

got there yet. But like, you know, Twilight,

of course, I don't know why that needs to be

two last films for one book when there's barely

any writing in the books to begin with or or

like the Hobbit, which is a was it's a small

book. It's not a huge book. Making that in three

movies is kind of crazy. Yeah, I kind of agree

with you there. So moving on to best hero. Best

hero We have the winner being Tony Stark from

Iron Man 3 at 31 votes and the low is Max DeCosta

from Elysium at 9 votes and the staff pick was

Tony Stark Interesting second place with Katniss

just barely behind her so I I will say that Katniss

was actually leading for a while, and then Tony

kind of shot her down with his Iron Man suit.

Came up with a repulsor to her a little bit there.

You got Jarvis to get him some extra votes, I

guess. Yeah. The vision? Oh, don't even go there.

Sorry, had to do it. I'm kind of glad that Tony

won because you know as I said earlier Iron Man

3 wasn't just a superhero movie. It wasn't just

a sequel. It was a journey into that guy's psyche

It was you know seeing him in the aftermath of

if he had piet PTSD or whatever he had from what

he experienced in the Battle of New York. And

that's what Marvel is doing so well by setting

up this phase one, phase two, phase three kind

of thing with their cinematic universe. Do I

want an Iron Man 4 right away? No, I want them

to build to it. I want them to eventually come

back to it. Like if, you know, if Tony ends up

being the saving grace in Avengers 3 or whatever,

that'll be fine. I think we're looking at a recast

after Avengers 3 or them writing Tony out for

a while. I don't see Donnie Jr. or Tony Stark

making it to an Iron Man 4. No, I don't see it

happening either. Think maybe he'll show up in

the event. He'll obviously show up in Avengers

2 but I don't I don't see another eventual Iron

Man movie like you said unless they Get somebody

else in the armor, which it has happened in the

past, you know There have been other people who've

wore the armor. So it is possible. Well, they

can be a war machine that carry on the legacy

That'd be interesting I'm kind of surprised Katniss

from the Hunger Games didn't come away too because

there was a lot I actually found myself out of

the many films that my wife has dragged me to,

that she's read the books to. I actually found

myself enjoying the Hunger Games. In fact, I

just watched Catching Fire again the other day

when I got it on Blu -ray. The other film I enjoy

was Elysium, which was kind of interesting watching

that original story there. It had the sci -fi

and everything else to get me. enthused. Yeah,

it was basically the Halo movie that has yet

been made. I liked Elysium. It was a little bit

of a letdown compared to District 9, which I

thought was pretty much an amazing film. But

I did like some of the moments, especially the

special effects in that are pretty fantastic.

But what do we got next? Well, we have the best

villain. best villain and Smog from The Hobbit

takes it away at 34 votes and Harland de Groot

from Out of the Furnace takes it away at 11 votes

for the low end of the spectrum and the staff

vote was Zod from Man of Steel Zod was intense

he really was Like I don't like Zod in Man of

Steel I dare say was even more intense than Terrence

Stamp in Superman 2 Yeah, I mean Michael Sheen's

a pretty Formidable actor I I like Zod I I was

I'm a huge Michael Michael Sheen fan So I was

maybe my expectations were too high, but it didn't

really live up to that. I am really surprised

at smog I guess not too surprised. There's a

lot of Benedict Cumberbatch fans out there. And

he was pretty amazing in that role. And I don't

know if you guys saw, but there was images of

Benedict Cumberbatch doing the motion capture

of Smog, even though he didn't necessarily have

to do it. He kind of did it for the voice. And

it's pretty hilarious to watch, though it's interesting

to say the least. Any other comments? Nope. I

think that's the end of it for movies. So we're

on the TV next. Yes, we're on the TV. And so

jumping into that, we have the best TV leads.

Best TV leads. Actually, I was kind of surprised

at who won in this one. It was kind of a toss

up. Two of them, of course, didn't get much recognition,

but I don't think that certain people watch those

shows. For the number one, we had Oliver Queen

from Arrow at 37 votes. And the low end, we had

John Reese from Person of Interest at three votes.

Second on this one was Raylon Givens from Justified.

Third, Agent Coulson from Agents of Shield. And

fourth was Dean Winchester from Supernatural.

And the staff vote was Oliver Queen from Arrow.

They've done a really good job with Arrow. I

know that some people say that season one was

a little slow, but I really enjoyed season one

because Arrow to me is what Smallville was back

in 2001. It's a fresh start on someone new, someone

that isn't Superman or Batman, even though the

Arrow universe is kind of becoming the Batman

universe a little bit. Because I think I think

what DC is trying to do is and I may or may not

get flack for this They're basically trying to

copy Marvel backwards. What I mean by that is

Marvel set up their cinematic universe and then

they had agents of shield and they're now crossing

over between the show and the movies and I think

what DC might end up doing or this my own personal,

you know Guess here is that they're gonna start

off stuff an arrow and then go forward with movies

as they go along Well everything I've read as

far as Arrow's concerned, they are not allowed

to even cross streams with the film franchise

of the DC Universe. It's its own thing. So like

their Oliver Queen or their Flash, it's all its

own continuity right there on TV. It's a totally

separate entity. In the agreeance I I love arrow

it's I wouldn't say it's smallville because smallville

was not as good as arrow No, no what I'm saying

is arrow season one is Now what smallville season

one was when it premiered since that's what I'm

saying, but we put the suit on in the first season

whereas Smallville he never put suit on yeah,

and it's basically a Batman rehash But that's

a that's a tenacality with the show. What I'm

saying is we hadn't had a Superman show or movie

since. Well, show would have been Lois and Clark

since 97. So it had been three years, four years.

And then the movies didn't happen until 2006

from 94 or three somewhere around there. What

I'm saying is. The level of excitement for Arrow

when season one kind of premiered and everybody

was talking about it, that to me is what happened

back in 2001 with the level of excitement for

Smallville. That's basically what I'm saying.

No, Arrow is much better than Smallville, but

it's interesting to see how CW has kind of come

full circle with their superhero shows. I've

only seen the first season of arrow. I mean I'll

save more but I did I do like the betrayal Oliver

Queen I'd as long as he's Oliver Queen the only

time I had issues with it when they were flashback

to his past and he's like the Oliver Queen before

you you know is Transformed into green arrow

and those moments are pretty pretty awful just

because they're so ridiculous, but as that as

arrow I thought he was He's good. And like you

said he's Blatantly trying to be Batman at times

at times a little bit too much And I just one

thing I can't stand with the first season is

a stupid eye makeup stuff Which I still don't

understand the purpose of because it does nothing

just just that's just kind of moronic to me and

But uh, I know we'll probably have more Talk

about an arrow in the future. But just regarding

that actual lead. I do agree with that choice.

I haven't seen justified so I can't speak to

it, but uh Out of the choices, I think we and

the fans made the right one. I find myself enjoying

Agent Coulson from S .H .I .E .L .D., but that's

one of the few points. Supernatural, I really

enjoy. I like the character of Dean Winchester.

He's basically the main guy in that. Is he the

one with the long hair or the short hair? He's

the short hair, but he's the... the kind of gruff

voice when he's talking and about everything.

And so it's OK. And his brother's kind of like,

yeah, like this. And, you know, and he's got

the longer hair and everything. They're both

like frickin tall as hell. But it's yeah, it's

it's a good show. But I do see it trailing. Plus,

CW renewed it for a 10th season. So yay. I've

never really I never really watched it. My wife,

I've seen it like in passing because my wife

watches it. But. For what I saw it look it look

those look pretty interesting. So I can't speak

onto it. It's good, but season Six and seven

are garbage because the original Show writers

and everybody kind of left after five because

the storyline was wrapped up So they were kind

of traveling in the dark and then now they've

got Starting with season eight. They got one

of their guys from the first three seasons back

Writing it and he's kind of tying up everything

Little at a time through season 8 9 and soon

to be 10 So it's it's actually getting good again

but I Now there's gonna be a spin -off. Yeah,

that's gonna flop It just trust me it'll flop

But as far as like arrows concerned the only

thing that's kind of irked me is they're pulling

too many Batman villains in For season two, but

season two is infinitely better than season one

And the eye makeup thing gets addressed in season

two by Barry Allen Yeah, I did see that which

I'm glad about I had other issues with an arrow,

but I'll wait until we Season two definitely

is is worth watching it. Yeah, I really want

to check it out. Unfortunately, it's not Online

yet. It's I watched season one through Netflix

and season two is not really on demand or any

place So once it is I will certainly check it

out because that's that's what I hear about from

pretty much everyone that season two is a huge

step up from season one which I'm glad to hear

so The interesting thing in this category is,

at least to me, I've only seen the first couple

episodes of the first season, but Raelynn Givens,

played by Timothy Olyphant, it's interesting

what they did with Justified, because FX took

Tim Olyphant, and, you know, most people will

know him from Die Hard 4. As the villain they

took him made him the the hero in this show And

then they took one of their previous actors from

one their very first original series the shield

they took Walton Goggins and made him the villain

in this and That guy can play an amazing villain,

but yeah, I would have to say arrow You know

Oliver Queen and arrow was probably the best

choice here And let's just put it this way. It

won't be the last time that the the fans and

us agree Best TV drama Best TV drama We have

the walking dead at 51 votes With the low being

once upon a time at four and the staff vote is

the walking dead Not surprising the walking that

is pretty much a powerhouse. It's like the ratings

of it are crazy for It's getting like network

ratings for basic cable TV show. So but justified

is is not too shabby and Hannibal, I mean is

up there too, but I I know you guys aren't big

zombie fans. I know you guys don't really like

walking dead. I do I do like the walking dead

I don't know if I would call it the best drama

on TV right now certainly Wouldn't say that uh,

I do think it's a fun show. It has its moments.

It's it's well made the Make -up design in that

film is pretty fantastic. The production value

is really good Some of the some of the characters

are are good and some of the act performances

are handled my biggest issue with the walking

dead is how it can't You can either do action

or can do character development in an episode.

It can't put both in one episode at times and

uh the season finale of Season three was kind

of a letdown but it was made up for with the

midseason finale of season four Which was really

really good and I've kind of liked what they've

done so far this year When they've come back,

but I know you guys aren't huge fans of that

I kind of glance over it because I'm in the same

room when my wife's watching it I don't really

care for it per se but it's not it's not my cup

of tea, but I'll at least watch it if I have

nothing better going on. But it's what I've watched

of it. It's not bad. I mean, I've seen most the

last two seasons just because I'm in the same

room. But I know the feeling. But for the most

part, the only one on this list that I actually

watch is Once Upon a Time. But that's just me.

Yeah, I have yet to get into once upon a time.

I want to eventually I've seen maybe two episodes

of Hawaii 5 -0 Justified like I said a second

ago. I only saw like the first couple of episodes

in season one Hannibal just isn't my cup of tea

at all and the walking dead I'm so sick of everything

being oh the zombie apocalypse. Oh this oh that

every Give me a break You're just a bastion of

joy Mike Yeah, I know right as always so speaking

of bad comedy Don't even go there just don't

even start that I thought it was funny Best TV

comedy Best TV comedy the winner is the Big Bang

Theory at 45 votes and It was kind of tied for

the low end which would be the neighbors and

last man standing and The staff pick was new

girl. I Can't believe that what's wrong with

you people? What are you talking about? Big Bang

Theory is so much better than new girl it well

Big Bang Theory won the fan vote Yeah, I know.

It's not, though. It's a beyond. It is, though.

Let me explain to you why it's not. Big Bang

Theory is a show that's a joke a minute because

it doesn't have good characters. It relies on...

It relies on laugh tracks to make the jokes better.

It is a joke. It's a movie. It's a fine show

It's okay. It's it but it's not nearly as well

written as something like new girl and it's not

nearly has actual moments of character that you

know mean more and actually dramatic at times

and I think we could think there is fine, but

I just find it really tiresome in the fact that

has like Four jokes. It has four jokes. You know,

you have the guy who can't talk to women. You

have the guy who's like his issues with his mom.

You know, Jim Parsons is pretty amazing in his

performance. But after a while, it's like, OK,

I get it. He the same jokes over and over again.

It's just a show that I feel like hasn't evolved

since his first season. Um, it's fine that people

like it, but if you're gonna say it's way better

than new girl i'm gonna i'm gonna defend my way

better than new girl and i'm gonna defend my

show to you because you're knocking futz because

it's How many seasons of big bang theory have

you watched? Uh as many I I don't back the back.

I don't know it How many seasons? Okay, so you've

only seen the reruns. Uh, yeah, because I don't

want to waste my time with it Okay, so you're

basically in the same boat that I was with with

Breaking bad, but here's the thing with Big Bang

Theory. I've been watching it since its premiere

Over seven years over seven seasons. They've

built up the characters It's not just it's different

about them now than there wasn't season two Well,

one they see Howard Howard and Bernadette are

married. Okay, that's not that's not a character

development That's just something happening.

How what he's no long. He's no longer living

with his mother She's yeah, she's not actually

Ended the show anymore The jokes there are fine,

but they're really they're basic jokes for the

most part there. They don't have any complexity

to them They're rapid -fire quick joke. Like

if you would watch that show I guarantee you

you and I'll go two minutes without a joke because

they can't not do it people complain about Family

Guy doing that Big Bang Theory's just as guilty

because it can't stop itself It just to me. It's

just the jokes are okay, but I'm like, it's just

it's an okay show I don't I don't I think if

you had those jokes and it wasn't about the subject

matter that it's about or they weren't comic

book fans People wouldn't love it as much as

they do but it's because it has comic book references

that people love it But when a show like community

that's so much smarter with its references and

so it's not it is because it doesn't know it's

not How many episodes of community have you watched?

Probably the first two seasons and I didn't care

for because it's not it's not lowbrow load It's

it's humor that actually knows how to be subtle

and knows how to be satirical. It doesn't have

to be like the most obvious blatant jokes, which

is what Big Bang Theory is. There's no subtlety

to it whatsoever. Let me tell you exactly what

else has changed. Well, Raj can talk to women

now, but they've moved him along in his character

development. They've moved Sheldon along in his

character development. They've moved each of

these characters along very slowly. Think of

Big Bang Theory as the comedy version of Breaking

Bad. It's so slow through the character development.

I know, I'm sorry. I'm not touching this conversation

with a 10 -foot pole. I just, like, if you're

gonna, like, how many, you say it's way better

than New Girl, but how many episodes of New Girl

have you watched? Part of the first season. I

didn't care for it. I don't know which episode's

off the top of my head. Like, let me ask, do

you think if Big Bang Theory wasn't about comic

book references, you would find it as funny as

you do? Probably because it's not just about

comic book references. It's it's pop culture

altogether exactly because it can't It won't

survive without pop culture It's a show that

will not last that long in ten years from now

won't be it won't hold up because it's all about

Jokes from today. It's kind of like Roseanne.

It's like Shrek. It's Shrek the freakin Movie

like it has to rely on pop culture of today to

be funny, which is not which is bad writing It's

done by the same guys that do Two and a Half

Men, so I don't expect much. Well, Two and a

Half Men is worse than Big Bang 3. Well, it's

still written by the same guys. It's the same

kind of comedy. It's geared towards geeks more

so and comic fans and pop culture fans. Comedy

is very subjective. It's an impossible argument

to go over because someone finds it funny, someone

else doesn't find it funny, which is fine. Don't

say that movies that shows really better when

when you all you can really say is like Oh, you

don't really have evidence to really support

that that's my issue. If you're gonna say it's

you like that better fine All right, I'll compare

it to community not new girl. I'll compare it

to community I watched three or four or five

different episodes of community and I did not

find a Single character funny. The only time

Joe McHale is ever funny is when he's doing talk

soup But like you were I don't honestly like

I'd be it's funny because you don't have a good

taste I Neither do you? Calm down. I mean come

on. All right Now I like whose line is it anyway,

although I will admit the ninth season revival

and CW was crap There was too many guests that

five seconds. That's my problem in the fact that

they would introduce one Retro game every episode

and and they would play the same damn. It was

a rerun of the same episode every episode Besides

the the running gag of whoever the guest was

gonna be But you can tell some of the people

clearly didn't want to be there Which I think

kind of detracts from the show having the guests

on there rather than just pulling an audience

member for a random skit every now and again

But it looks like the 10th season that's coming

back later this month Looks to be like it's gonna

rectify those problems. So maybe they were just

using it to gather steam Well, see here's the

thing with whose line is it? Anyway, it was good

but as I said If you're gonna have, what's her

name, Aisha Tyler, and then the three or four

comedy guests. the regular panelists and then

have a special guest. Let that special guest

stay out there the whole time. Don't make it

seem like it's a late night segment that's put

together like crap. Or that they could do what

they used to do on Who's Line and instead of

having a guest, they have the third or fourth

chair be like Stephen Colbert or Robin Williams

or Whippy Goldberg or whoever. Just have an actual

comedy person be there. Yeah. Well, my problem

with the guest was they made it sound like, oh,

we're going to have multiple guests on one episode.

And no, they just had the one guest came on,

made it seem like either, like I said, a late

night talk show or a daytime talk show where

the guest leaves. And then, oh, hey, they're

back. Yay. That was a little... I think it was

a ratings grab to revive it. I think we'll move

on. Yeah. So getting into Best TV Sci -Fi. Best

TV Sci -Fi. This was a very close vote between

three contenders. Supernatural won out at 21

votes. Followed by in close second was Orphan

Black and Almost Human. And the staff pick was

Orphan Black. I've only watched one of these

shows, which was Revolution for the first half

of the first season, which was pretty awful.

So I really can't say much about any of these

shows. All right. I've seen four out of the five

because I actually watch four out of the five

consistently. Supernatural, I... Would say is

my number one favorite out of the group because

I've been watching it since the second season

started airing I own all the seasons of it. I've

been watching it Revolution first season is terrible

Because they didn't know what the hell they were

trying to do once they hit the second season

The first season is basically irrelevant Like

it's I mean it it's somewhat needed because of

the character interactions and some of the things

that happened event -wise But for the most part

the first season is fodder compared to getting

into the second season almost human It's basically

another it's turned into another cop show essentially

just with an Android and Karl Urban So you're

saying it's judge dread and I robot rolled into

one Possibly, I mean it's I lost interest after

watching it eight or nine episodes Continuum

that's when I've been watching on Netflix because

I don't have the channel at Arizona It's actually

a pretty interesting show because it's time travelers

from the future going to the past and interacting

with the guy that created the time travel device

in the future But when he's young like 17 instead

of his 80s. So it's it's showing the setup of

like these organizations and companies and everything

else start up in the past and basically showing

how everything was not deviating from history

in any sense. So. And I know nothing of orphan

black. Saw the previous for it and I was like,

what is this? I Don't know I'm just not into

the sci -fi stuff for TV So moving on Yeah, give

us a new Star Trek series already. Yeah, ain't

that the truth? Give it good writing don't let

JJ to and Or see encouragement touch it best

TV action adventure Arrow takes it away at 47

votes Wow with a low being person of interest

at four and the staff vote was again arrow I'm

really surprised that agents of shield is that

low But you got to consider its Like what 12

episodes in and nothing's really happened. I

think most people that would vote for agents

of shield probably would have liked arrow better

So they're probably gonna go arrow because it's

a better show that's kind of I Stopped watching

each other's a shield. I think the fifth or sixth

episode It was just it was just badly made and

the characters were uninteresting or annoying

Besides agent Colson and like the mystery that

they had just didn't I didn't really care enough

to continue with it I just started The Americans,

and that's really good. I do really enjoy that.

I know Mike, you are a big fan of that show.

Oh, yeah, I love that show. I'm a little wonky

with how season two is starting, but season one

was masterful. Only now in this day and age could

you go back and tell a story about Russian spies

in the Cold War in America. and you know these

characters Philip and Elizabeth they are technically

they're the protagonists in in the show and we

all know what happened back then we won um but

it's interesting now to go back and see what

that time was like because I wasn't well I was

born but like 1981 -82 I was still young so I

wasn't like I don't even Unless it was like Sesame

Street. I wasn't really paying too much attention

to TV or news or anything like that at that age,

but It's so interesting to see how well they

do this as a period piece television show because

they show you all this old technology I listened

to an AfterBuzzTV after show about the Americans,

and the hosts on there always ask, well they

asked this past week, where are they getting

all these old Oldsmobiles from for the show?

But no, the writing is solid, the story is great,

it's really really interesting. It's probably

one of the first... FX original series that I've

really attached myself to after the shield back

in 2002 So I've Aside from enjoying arrow immensely

and agents of shield I will say that the agent

Colson thing doesn't pay off until episode 10

Mm -hmm, and even then they give a half Taste

of it and then in the recent episode that aired

this week. They actually reveal the remaining

components So I know that coming up next they're

going With the cameos from Thor and then the

cameos from it's gonna be something Captain America

2 related but My other show that I like is the

blacklist that I keep oh, yeah And James Spader's

awesome. It's the first Spader series that I've

actually watched regularly because I've never

really cared for some of his other work, but

the blacklist is really, really interesting.

And this week it was off so NBC could premiere

that new show Believe. But this coming Monday.

It ramps up for season one because we're gonna

finally find out what Tom's deal is up until

this past Monday I Thought okay, come on just

kill Tom off already He is the weak link in the

entire show and then the end of that episode

was like Oh crap, what's gonna, what are they

gonna do now? I still think Reddington is her

father though. I still think that as well, and

I've thought that since episode one. Yep, yep.

Cause he won't answer the question either, so.

Well he did, he said no. But it was a hesitant

no. Yeah, that's true. Um, so. Best TV intros

and I'm sorry, but some of these I collaborated

with Mike with Now wait a second here. I did

vote. I know I did I did vote Yes Well, okay,

but I was the one even though I'm not a fan of

the show I was the one that told you to put in

Breaking Bad because while I don't care too much

about the show in itself I do think the theme

is very very cool. Even though it's very quick

So, yes, Breaking Bad won at 38 votes, Big Bang

3 at 30, Hawaii 5 -0 at 20, and then the other

two were at 5. Big Bang 3 won the staff vote.

Yeah, I probably could have put Breaking Bad

in the drama, but it's not currently going, so

I left it off. Yeah. Your thoughts? Yeah, I guess.

Don't know really the themes to you saying intro.

Do you mean that intro song? Yeah Yeah, the themes

the opening credits. Yeah. Okay. Um, yeah, I

mean Big Bang Theory song is fine. I mean Breaking

Bad like it's literally only a few chords, but

it's effective and it's used well I think the

three that got votes were the ones that had actual

good Will say I only put resilient aisles in

there is because I'm from Boston and it's a Boston

band that sings the over Well, it's it's their

music that opens that it's a dropkick Murphy's

so which dropping her piece on It's one of their

instrumentals. I'll I'll send you the link later

So moving on we have the best cartoon BEST CARTOON!

Yep, that does not surprise me. I can't say I'm

surprised either because the Transformers Prime

music is pretty epic. Although I'd argue even

though Ninja Turtles is somewhat using the original

and it's a little bit of a hip hop thing, it's

extremely catchy for me. For the music of it

and then the fact that the show is kind of a

nice mesh between the 2003 and 1987. Yeah Turtles

is getting better as it goes along Prime kind

of wound down this past year since it was not

necessarily being canceled, but it was being

you know series finale and Just The characters,

the animation, the CGI animation in it, the music,

again, Brian Tyler, simply amazing. Now, I will

say, and I will defend this for the longest time,

everyone, I'm one of these people that also will

complain about humans in the Transformers cartoons.

Jack, Miko, and Raph are probably the three best

humans we've ever had as far as story and character

development and what happens to them within the

series. Will definitely agree and boy the Batman

even though it came in low it did not get a fair

shake I'll say that now well her to network crap

canned it before it had a chance to actually

grow legs, you know Because they actually did

go a different route with different villains

and not I mean, yeah, they teased Ra's al Ghul

But they didn't actually play the Joker or the

penguin or the Riddler or the regular rogues

gallery. It was a lot you know Simon stag and

you know anarchy and What was it professor pig

or Something like that. Yeah. Yeah, it was professor

pig mr. Toad Anarchy their Simon stag was in

there a little bit The League of Assassins or

the League of Shadows with Lady Shiva was it

mr not mr tiger oh god what was the other ones

um monkey i forget yeah monkey that's silver

monkey or yeah yeah yeah yeah silver silver optimus

primal that's what it was any thoughts dan no

i don't watch any of the cartoons so i can't

okay all right so rounding out to the last four

Best GCRN feature. Is the top 100 countdowns

at 40 votes? And I will just run down the rest

of them. Followed by the GCRN wars tournaments

at 18 votes, the written reviews at 16, the top

10s at 15, and then the interviews at 11. I'm

really surprised the interviews did not get more

votes. Okay, I get it. The top 100 is gonna win

out, but... I'm really surprised because over

the last five years, we've done some pretty cool

interviews. Yeah, that is pretty surprising.

I'm kind of surprised, too. I mean, I would have

thought the interviews would have been higher,

but I guess it's more fun to listen to than to

interact with, whereas the rest of them are more

interaction purposes. True. So it followed, you

know, kind of. It's an exactly pretty much reverse

order for interaction purposes, too. So Yeah,

that's true So but yeah, they're definitely will

be more of all of the above. Oh Yeah Interviews

this year. It's gonna be off the skids might

be our biggest year for interviews ever Well,

I don't know about ever but it will be closed

to some other years Time will tell yes There

will be another Warriors tournament with the

bracket. That should be coming soon. And then

the top 100 countdown again later this year,

which you won't know either one of them. Any

other comments? No. Yeah, good. Best GCR and

review podcast. Alright best GC iron review podcast

votes. I was kind of surprised to see this but

Legends of the Dark Knight took it away at 23

votes and the low is powers of grayskull at 8

Yeah, the the following ones after Legends of

the Dark Knight you have from the command center

14 pixels in the animation at 11 and beyond the

night at 9 So well with Beyond the Night and

Powers of Grayskull for Powers of Grayskull the

X number of months off hiatus that we quote -unquote

planned That didn't help it and Beyond the Night

is still not in iTunes because they still refuse

to accept the damn link that I post in iTunes

jerks Yeah, it happens All right, so best GC

iron partner podcast best GCR and partner. This

is going to be interesting. Yeah, it's it's going

to be. There's there's a monumental winner and

then. Yeah, I'm just going to. It's not surprisingly

mark. Who's hooniverse 1 at 83 votes followed

by Punisher body count What's on Joe mind star

Joe's podcast and Hunnic outcast podcast? Yeah,

it's not surprising the doctor who podcast won.

Well, I think they rallied their hooniverse army

on us. Yeah We we told I told the star Joe's

and the what's on Joe mine and and the Punisher

body count to get that Punisher body count I

told them to have Frank go kill all all 12 doctors

So yeah, I I'm kind of not surprised but I am

surprised especially by the the landslide of

50 plus votes over everybody else. Yeah, I mean

it's it's 50 votes between Mark who 42 and punish

your money count So try the biggest landslide

of all all the categories So it definitely was

I can't even I yeah, I can't even But um Best

GCRN core podcast So yeah, the last category

is the best GCR in court podcast can't say I'm

surprised but Here we go Mware weekly took it

away at 37 votes followed by with the tie for

second place keep cast radio and altered geek

unlimited for 22 votes off the cuff for 19 and

the pull bag for 10 I'm surprised that GCR got

all the votes that it did because Outside of

the top 100 we had been kind of spotty Well,

you got to see it this way says we've had two

top 100s the top the top 10 top tens Yeah, and

then this all on the geek cast radio feed. So

that's right that warrants it No, no, no, I know

but I'm just I'm just saying it seemed like as

we were producing episode 41 through 59 It seemed

like a long time to me as as producing the stuff

that it took to release it But I guess I guess

we have had consistent content I think you can

get a look at it just at 2013 where people are

probably considering a great deal. That's top

100 That's what I'm saying, but that all happened

in 2013 the top tens And the top 100 happened

in 2013. Yeah, which is why I got 22 votes. Well,

it'll be no different this year with more awesome

top 100 content and more goodies that are going

to show up on this feed this year. Tons of things

are planned. That's all I will say. I'll say

I have a certain number that I want to hit by

the end of the year. Are you seven in a row?

No, wrong show. No, that would be 100. I am fully

planning on by December 31st that we hit 100

episodes. Well, we got 40 to go. If it happens.

Oh, it will happen. I'll make it happen. Just

don't use crap content. Shut up. So. Final thoughts

on the whole awards and your experience with

it. I guess we'll start with Dan. I guess the

first thing is thank the fans for voting. I mean,

there was a huge amount of turnout for a lot

of these categories. You know, it seems like

everyone was at least above 100 or so. Seems

like for most of them, there's a lot of love

spread in a lot of different areas. So that was

kind of cool. And I guess it's Yeah, it was interesting

to say the least so I hopefully next year we

can look at what we did this year on it and do

it better but I think for a first awards it was

rather successful so Mike Yeah, no, I agree I'm

in general I was really hesitant and I didn't

really take place in a lot of the category stuff

setting this up this year because I just I'm

not that into award shows. I think they're cool.

I think they're interesting, but it's not like...

I don't know. It just wasn't really my thing.

But with the pull bag taking off and getting...

The pull bag is changing. Like this year so far,

we're three months into 2014, and the show is

already going in several different directions.

So the pull bag will have... We will have comic

votes next year. I'm happy with the way it turned

out. I wish we would have gotten a little bit

more votes I'm wondering though if when we like

to advertise it like on Facebook like I know

I took like the The TV action category where

the blacklist is and I actually tagged the official

blacklist Fanpage on on Facebook. I'm wondering

if that helped at all If that kind of thing like

don't like going to the official source of not

not just a bunch of fans creating a fan page

for a show they like but the actual NBC and that

kind of stuff I'm really wondering if how much

of that contributed to the overall voting I Am

unsure I Think that the the overall experience

was pretty good I definitely have some things

I'm going to tweak for next year as far as how

it works on the site. I'm sure there'll be some

other way that we're going to come up with to

refine how things are run on the second award

show if we so choose to do it again next year

depending on user feedback. There will be a poll

on the website on the sidebar. Probably around

the time this episode's aired, asking for your

general thoughts on this whole awards experience.

Also, be sure to leave feedback on this episode

post of what you think. There'll be a link to

the awards answers in this post, so be sure to

look out for that as well. All right about wraps

it up go ahead and close it out Mike You know

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