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We'll be cutting down GCR ins top 10 sci -fi

films drop the honorable mentions Kev and before

I do obviously Like we've talked about in a few

other lists sci -fi maybe more than any other

one besides superheroes we're going to be dealing

with a lot of different franchises so that issue

that we brought up with a long time ago I think

in the action films may come into play here as

we do have some franchises that had multiple

multiple films and it was interesting to see

the votes split amongst everyone's favorite within

those franchises that being said you guys can

take a look at the honorable mention and while

you do Look for a couple things here. We'll look

for what franchise is most represented. We'll

look for what decade what time is most represented

Wow, those are some of those are bullshit One

thing you do got to realize is there's so many

good sci -fi films This is something I figured

out when I was doing my rankings that it was

really hard for me to narrow it down to top 20

But there's only ten spots so you got to hold

back hold back your Pleasure or your disdain

until we actually see what is in the actual top

ten I will say though that it is probably the

most There's a ton of films that got votes 62

some 62 films got voted on and Honestly, there

was only two three four five six seven eight

nine 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. Only 17

films made it onto half of our list. So there

was not a lot of agreement here in the sci -fi

list. There was only 17 films that got voted

on by at least half of the panel out of 62. So

it was definitely a split crowd. There was only

eight films that were on four of the six people's

panels. There was only so I mean it was definitely

a big split I will say that it was very close

towards the top as far as making the list If

you see there the top honorable mention had had

36 points in our qualifying point system As did

ours the two that were the closest both had 36

Well, let me tell you that the number fifth movie

on our list had 39 So we went from 36 points

not making the list to 39 points getting you

in the top five So that's how close this Voting

was and you can see that there was 1 2 3 4 5

6 7 8 and 9 honorable mentions that were all

in the 30s So just trying to paint the picture

here before we start dissecting the honorable

mentions Mike. I think I heard your your noises

first I'm sorry not having at least Tron the

the first Tron in the top ten even at number

ten is just blasphemy that movie did a whole

bunch of Awesome things for the industry and

it was a damn good story I'm one of those people

that love the sequel some people like it some

people don't whatever some people are middle

ground But I'm one of those people that I love

the sequel and I'm waiting for them to make another

one The unfortunate part with that though, with

the first one, is it's so badly dated because

of time that it's very hard to hold up into that

entire standard. It depends on who you ask, I

guess. I guess you just have to be a part of

that generation that grew up with it. Well, I

did too, but it's so badly dated it's hard to

take it seriously. Well, see the thing for me

is, with Tron specifically, is that... I didn't

see it until 2011. Like it came out when I was

two. I had heard of it here and there when I

was younger but I never actually saw it until

the sequel came out. I went on, at the time,

YouTube and watched it there and I was just blown

away. I mean, sure it's dated a little bit but

that's, you know, for me it's not as badly dated

as some other stuff in geek history. So for other

stuff... Let's see here. I can see Bicentennial

Man not making it. Even though it's a Robin Williams

film, it's a damn good film. I can see why it

wouldn't make it. I can't believe Fifth Element

didn't make it. That's kind of crazy. Neither

the original Wrath or the Re -Wrath didn't make

it. That's funny. Well, the first one's kind

of blasphemed me that it's not in there. The

second one, there were so many plot holes that

I could see why it's not. I'm surprised not more

people voted for Johnny 5. I love that movie

But yeah, I don't know what else is actually

gonna be on the list here because I Swear I hope

to God Robocop 2 & 3 did not make the top 10

if Robocop 1 didn't even make it if 2 & 3 are

on here people are really gonna come after us

with Pitchforks and torches We'll try not to

spoil as much as we can as far as if we have

ideas of what's in the top 10 I'm shocked that

a couple obviously you guys can't see the number

of people who voted on each thing I'm a little

shocked at a couple films that only get had only

appeared on one out of the six lists Starting

with the couple that I voted for I'm very Shocked

that that avatar is only that I'm the only one

that voted for avatar. Yeah I understand that

a lot of you it's a love -hate thing and either

people love it or hate it but I'd rather sit

through six hours of Titanic than watch Avatar.

I beg to differ So I was very shocked that Avatar

only got made it on one person's list. I'm beyond

shocked that I Am the only one that voted for

any of the Mad Max films Mad Max is just like

it gets good reviews like all all the Mad Max

movies seem to get good reviews everywhere you

look and and Think they're pretty pretty epics

in the science fiction genre, but I went with

Mad Max to the road warrior But that was I was

the only person person I voted for any of the

Mad Max films Only one person voted for 2001

a space odyssey I was the only one that voted

for the newer the newest Planet of the Apes reboot

whatever you want to call it only one person

voted for inception only one person voted for

total recall only one person for Super eight

just a couple interesting things. I thought they

might appear in a few more lists Dan. What are

your some of your thoughts? Well, I see my number

one is the first film I think we're the closest

one to make it that didn't which is alien I Love

alien. I just I I could see I think that might

be fell victim to the whole franchise aspect

because I know a lot of people prefer Aliens

over Alien and I could see that Aliens is a great

movie which also made my list but Alien I just

prefer a little more I think for most I just

think it's it's a perfect movie it's so well

edited it's Ridley Scott like directed the hell

out of that movie we Steve mentioned it already

but Star Trek 2 not making it I that is that

to me really shocks me. That was a game changer

for the entire franchise. Yeah. I mean, when

you hear like we talked about what movies people

think are best in the franchise or some franchises,

it's all over the place. But with Star Trek,

it's pretty unanimous from what I can hear from

the Star Trek community. Maybe I don't. Maybe

I'm wrong. But it seems when people talk about

Star Trek, that's the first one they talk about.

So it's interesting because three of our number

one picks are already out. Mike already mentioned

Tron Legacy, which was one point away from making

the list. Your Alien was one point away from

making the list. And the one that he just mentioned,

JT's number one, Wrath of Khan, fell half a dozen

points short. Interesting though, in Alien only

two people voted for Alien. Only two people voted

for Tron Legacy. And myself, BT, and Dan were

the only ones that voted for Wrath of Khan. So...

That's what I'm saying. It's just a really split

crowd It was really hard to make this list now

keep going with your other thoughts Dan And we

talked about the reboot of Planet of the Apes.

I also voted for the original Planet of the Apes

I know what's like most of these lists we've

been going through the 1970s rule But I think

we kind of bend it a little bit with science

fiction because you're a few in the late 60s

like Planet of the Apes and 2001 Space Odyssey,

which was number two on my list, so my first

one and two both didn't make it. I get Space

Odyssey because it's an odd film. It's not for

everyone. Kubrick, we talked about this a little

bit with Full Metal Jacket. He makes movies that

are decisive. But 2001 Space Odyssey, I think

is, you know, it's an icon in the science fiction

world You talked about Mad Max. I honestly didn't

vote for it I guess it's similar to the fantasy

aspect when I think Road Warrior, I think action

So maybe when I was thinking when making my list,

it just didn't come to my mind Makes sense Clockward

Orange, I didn't vote for that but that's Again,

I went with 2001 but that's another great science

fiction film Children of Men and the one I voted

for maybe not enough people saw it. A really

underrated film, I think, is the original Solaris

from the 70s. It's an odd movie, but it's Predator.

Again, that's kind of surpri - not as surprising,

but again, I guess that's more action than science

fiction. It's hard. Like, with all these lists,

it's - you have those movies that really ride

the line. And another one real quick. is Moon,

which is a movie I love. I didn't expect it to

make the list, but I love Moon. It's one of the

better science fiction films of the last decade.

I was real close to putting that on my list.

I do like Moon. I don't share your love for 2001

Space Odyssey, but I do think Moon was a real

good film. It's the movie that Tom Cruise's movie

from earlier this year tried to be. I can't remember

the name of it. Oblivion. Oblivion, yeah. Moon

is the movie that Oblivion tried to be. Oh, and

I should mention Escape from New York. Again,

it's another dystopian future film, so maybe

people don't think it necessarily a science fiction,

because it's kind of, it's more gritty, you don't

really have many science fiction aspects to it

beyond a few things. But yeah, that's what really

caught my eye. I will say that one franchise

that's definitely well represented in our honorable

mentions And I'm not saying this as a bad thing

because it's good that I got so many different

films got voted on But maybe one that comes to

my mind right away when we talk about that franchise

Jinx as far as having so many films and splitting

the vote a little There's five Star Trek films

in our honorable mention list first contact the

the latest Star Trek that came out this which

interestingly tied Wrath of Khan. And then we

had Star Trek 6, Star Trek 7, so five different

Star Trek films in the honorable mentions. That's

by far the most represented franchise in the

honorable mention list. Steve, what are some

of the ones that caught your eye? Tron Legacy,

for instance. I felt that that was a really good

film. Of course, many of the Star Trek films,

I'm kind of sad to say, aren't in the list. Each

one's good with different reasonings. I'm sad

to see that Back to the Future is not in there,

as that was another great film. Well, just two

and three are on the honorable mentions one isn't

so it's somewhere in the countdown I Thought

I saw Maybe I misread that yeah, there's two

so yeah, maybe one's already in there but uh

Then total recall I can kind of see that it's

in there because it's kind of dated and the new

one is kind of different I don't know some of

the other ones I can kind of agree that they

kind of believe belong in the honorable mentions

But yeah I and I do see where Star Trek and Star

Wars for instance would have a split boat because

there's so many films in the franchise that it

kind of is counterintuitive to itself Revenge

of the Sith and new hope did not make it I hope

to God I'm looking for Phantom of the Menace

to make it to the top. Watch, you're gonna have

Phantom of the Menace and you're gonna have Return

of the Jedi. Ewoks! Interesting to see a couple

that caught my eye. We mentioned RoboCop. The

original Terminator is not in there. Some newer

ones that I kind of appreciate that didn't get

as much love I didn't vote for it, but in time

I think is a good sci -fi film that might in

time ha ha grow on us here as far as the sci

-fi genre I like that one. Yeah, I like that

movie. It was a it was a damn good movie it just

when I The problem with the sci -fi genre is

that? Honestly a lot of stuff can be classified

under it well that and What's the first thing

any of us thinks of when we hear sci -fi? Most

of us at least out of this girl out of three

of three three out of the four of us We're either

gonna think Star Trek or Star Wars space Yeah,

exactly. I'm not gonna think what You know we're

gonna think of Star Trek and Star Wars because

those are the two biggest sci -fi franchises

that we have yeah, and there are a multiple Star

Trek has 12, Star Wars has 6, going on 7. By

2020 it'll have 13 films. So a lot of these other

ones, I could have thrown in there The Impostor,

I don't think it would have gotten any votes.

But that was another good kind of sci -fi -ish

type movie, clone alien type deal. Stuff like

Predator, I always thought that was a horror

movie. Like, I've seen the previews for it, but

it's like, from when I saw previews as a kid,

I was like, you know, I'm not watching that.

I honestly always thought that was a horror film.

Total Recall, the only thing I know of Total

Recall is Charlie Sheen making fun of it in hot

shots. You know, it's like some of these movies

I know their names and I know of them But I've

never seen them. So again as I've said in the

last, you know since episode 41 If I haven't

seen a movie, it's not going on my list some

other newer ones that maybe what time might You

know climb the rankings a little bit. I think

maybe would be Super 8 inception District 9 possibly

some of those I think dude did do well as far

as a modern sci -fi film. I just think it's really

hard to go up against some of the more iconic

ones that have just been around for so long.

The last one I'll mention before I let Dan talk

again here. Kind of sad to see both the original

Planet of the Apes and the newest Planet of the

Apes reboot not, because I would think if any

of them from that franchise were going to make

it, it would be one of those two. So to me that

signals, you know, that Planet of the Apes might

be left off and that to me is somewhat sad because

I think that's an iconic sci -fi franchise But

go ahead Dan. We're talking about new movies.

I think loopers around the same one I didn't

go for it either, but that could also be getting

some traction it's kind of interesting that two

movies that are in our top 10 district 9 and

Children of men both have directors are making

science fiction films this year to they're coming

out. So I think Both of them only directed one

movie up to this point, which is kind of interesting.

And another one that kind of caught my eye was

that you talked about, which was Pitch Black,

which I didn't vote for, but I think it's a nice

little film. It's interesting. And Mike, you're

talking about not seeing Total Recall. I do find

it interesting that you haven't seen Total Recall,

but I've seen The Imposter, which is because

they're both Philip K. Dick movies. Which is

kind of, it's odd. We're learning a lot about

your history of movie -watching. I'll say this

is like, okay, but Impostor came along at a time

where, and again, I've said this before, I will

defend my philosophy on trailers till I die.

If a trailer catches me and interests me, I will

see the film. Total Recall specifically, I was

probably too young. But with Impostor, first

of all, I believe, without looking it up, and

I will in a minute, I believe it came after Forrest

Gump's or anything Gary Sinise did after Lieutenant

Dan I was interested in at the time. You know,

so it was just one of those ones. And again,

you know, stuff like iRobot. I thought that was

a really, really cool robotic sci -fi type of

film. Again, I will state for the record that

I think that this list is going to be blasphemy

if any of these horrible sequels end up on, uh...

On the top ten like Robocop two and three I see

that close encounters didn't make it But I'm

curious if we all see Spielberg's name on the

top ten at all because he you know, he's has

a lot of science fiction films, but Curious if

anyone made them because we've talked about ET

already and a few others So curious like what

directors are gonna dominate or if there will

be any directors that will dominate the top ten

Like we like we saw with the fantasy list. Yeah

and the gangster one as well Alright, who else

has any thoughts before we move into our number

ten listing? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller? We'll

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events? Does space -time continue on? Well, I

figured. What the hell? Alright, so let's kick

this off here at Top 10 Sci -Fi Films of All

Time as chosen by the Geekcast Radio Network.

Starting off with number 10, we're going to the

year 1984, and our number 10 film selection is

Ghostbusters. Comedy slash supernatural slash

sci -fi whatever you want to call it. Dan Aykroyd,

Bill Murray, Harold Ramis. Ghostbusters coming

in at number 10. It was voted on by four out

of the six of us One point away from not making

the list at all Steve and and JT I believe are

the only ones that did not vote for Ghostbusters

So we'll let Mike or Dan Mike you had it the

highest I think out of anybody You had it at

your number five pick. So, how do you feel about

Ghostbusters here? Oh, I love Ghostbusters. It's

one of those classic movies that Anytime you

go back to it, you can pretty much follow along

with the movie and say every line. It's just

one of those movies that you can always watch.

I'm not saying always as in every single day

of the year, but every six to nine months, at

least once a year, at Halloween maybe. It's just

one of those films that is completely watchable,

and those characters... Winston and and Venkman

and Egon and You know all those guys and Ray

and just the the characters that they have to

deal with like that idiot at the mayor's office

and the mayor himself and it's just an amazing

amazing thing and the effects are great and It's

just a great great film. I do think it was interesting

Obviously a lot of people probably associate

it more as a comedy than a sci -fi film I was

a little surprised because we saw so many comedies

not make the list. We saw, you know, in the Honorable

Mentions stuff like the Men in Black films were

in the Honorable Mentions, you know, stuff like

that. So I was wondering kind of how the comedies

as far as sci -fi would go. We saw Ghostbusters

2 in Honorable Mentions, so some of those. So

I do think it's cool that... So far, at least

we do have one of the sci -fi slash comedy films

making the list here. I associate it more as

sci -fi, but I know most people associate it

more comedy. Dan, you also had this on your list

in your 10 through 20 section. How do you feel

about Ghostbusters being number 10? I'm actually

kind of surprised it made it, mostly because

it has that genre -bending element where, like

you mentioned, that's... It's comedy, it's a

little bit of horror, a little bit of fantasy.

So I wasn't sure if people would vote for it,

because usually with these lists we've seen those

films that aren't distinctively one category

sometimes get left off. But I'm glad it made

a list. someplace within our top tens. Some may

argue that it should be in comedy, which I can't

argue against. It's a hilarious film. It belongs

there, but I guess you can say it equally belongs

in science fiction someplace. I think two Ghostbusters

is a great example of Bill Murray being Bill

Murray. There are so many lines in that movie

that on paper may not be hilarious, but the way

he says them just make them funny. you know,

there's a moment when they're walking through

the library and he sees a stack of books and

Egon's like, oh, I don't know the word for word,

but he said something like, oh, a ghost definitely

made those books. And he's like, yeah, of course,

that's what a ghost would only stack books that

way. I'm brutalizing. I have horrible at quotes.

I'm not that type of person. But anyways, more

importantly, Bill Murray rocks that movie. The

characters in general have great chemistry and

hopefully having it in our top 10 can finally,

you know. boost Ghostbusters 3 to enough popularity

that it finally gets made so we can stop hearing

about it. No doubt. But yeah, so a little bit

surprised, but no argument for me. Steve, your

reaction on Ghostbusters? I like the film, but

it's not one that I can sit there and really

enjoy as much as I get older. I just have a hard

time sitting through it. Also have the more I

watch stuff with Bill Murray the less I like

him I like his 80s stuff, but beyond that I don't

really care for the guy So I'm sure that's gonna

get all kinds of blasphemy and hate but I just

I don't see it so Everybody loves what about

Bob For sure. I don't know. I think as a franchise

I'm not upset that Ghostbusters is represented

here on the sci -fi list. I did vote it on my

list. I think I had it like 16th or something

like that. So I am surprised it did make the

list. I was thinking that the sci -fi would,

as a genre, lose all our comedies and anything

that was more lighthearted and be left with more

of the serious sci -fi stuff. So I'm kind of

surprised that it's there, but I'm not upset

that it's there. So that is our number 10 selection

moving on to our number 9 selection. We were

in 1984 We're gonna go back a year to 1983 And

our number 9 film on the list is Star Wars Return

of the Jedi not revenge return of the Jedi It

was revenge originally So yeah, we have a Star

Wars entry on our list here, Return of the Jedi

coming in at number nine. Interestingly though,

it is tied with one other film as the films in

our top 10 that had the least number of people

actually vote for it. Mike, it was just you and

me. We were the only two that put Return of the

Jedi in a top 20 list of sci -fi films. I've

said it before and I'll say it again. Revenge

of the Sith and Return of the Jedi for me, continuity

wise, are the two best Star Wars films. Are they

the best overall as far as enjoyment and effects

and story? No, by no means at all. Empire Strikes

Back is probably the best one out of them all,

but if you're looking at continuation of story

and what drives the story and how events occur

and happen... Revenge of the Sith and Return

of the Jedi are the two best ones, in my opinion.

So you basically like the closing chapter? I

like the closure of it, yes, pretty much. Well

that makes sense. I know a lot of people that

think the same way. I'm sorry, I was just curious

what you exactly... With Jedi, Empire, and I'm

sure we'll get to it, but Empire shows the darkness,

the middle ground, the middle part of the story.

Jedi, no matter what happens, however they approach

Episode 7, whatever that'll be... in a couple

years. Jedi was the closing chapter. Jedi was

the end of the book. And it had an amazing story

to it. It had a continuation of the love story

with Han and Leia. It had Luke finally coming

into his own as a Jedi. It had R2 shooting lightsabers

out of his helmet. You know, it was just awesome.

And I don't care what anybody says, I love that

speeder bike race. through the forest of Endor.

I love it. That's freaking awesome. Oh, I love

that. I love that. I actually do like the Ewoks.

It depends what year you catch me on or what

month you catch me on as far as if you were asking

me what my favorite Star Wars films. You know,

one day of the week, I'm going to tell you it's

Return of the Jedi. The next day of the week,

I'm probably going to tell you it's Empire Strikes

Back. I do think that Revenge of the Sith doesn't

nearly get as much love as it should. I think

that was actually much better than most people

say it was. I don't know. Return of the Jedi,

I thought. I'm not surprised where it is. I have

no problem with it being number nine. I am very

surprised that only two of us voted on it. I

just would have thought more people would have

voted for Return of the Jedi regardless. Maybe

this is one where people decided they were only

going to vote for one Star Wars film or something.

I don't know, but I'm surprised that only two

of us voted for Return of the Jedi, but not surprised

that it still at least made our list. Steve,

what do you think of Return of the Jedi? Well,

I do like that film. I did not vote on that.

I voted on two other Star Wars films. The Empire

Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith. But I also

have to agree with you in the sense that it kind

of depends on the week or the month on what one

is in my top list of Star Wars movies. And it

kind of jumps between parts of the original trilogy

and then Revenge of the Sith. Out of the new

trilogy, Revenge of the Sith is the only one

I care about. I think it was more of one of those

scenarios and I just opted to go with Empire

Strikes Back because of all the various things

going on in that film. Right. And the other thing

for me really quickly about Jedi was that you

go from New Hope not knowing who the Emperor

is to some wacky Mario looking villain Super

Mario World looking villain in... I don't know.

The original Empire Strikes Back, how the Emperor

was portrayed just looked totally off to me.

And then you go to Jedi and you have Ian Mc...

Oh God, what's his name? You've got this actor

that does an amazing portrayal and what surprised

me was that, because I thought, you know, as

a kid I'm thinking, okay, well, it's an old guy.

He's old and you know 30 years later He shows

up in the prequels as the senator that is the

you know That is the Emperor that and then that's

again. That's why I like You're talking about

Ian McDermott. Yeah That's why I like The prequel

trilogy and the fact that the Emperor is the

same actor that started it all from Jedi going

back I just I think that's great because you

know we've all seen movies where you start off

with an amazing amazing actor in a role and then

they do a prequel or sequel and that actor is

either passed away or couldn't make it or whatever

else and they recast it and it's not the same.

Well the funny thing is he's not the original

Emperor because I mean he was as the return of

the Jedi but the Empire Strikes Back had another

one. Right. He's just the longest running. As

far as AFI goes, it was nominated for, it's 100

years, 100 movies. It was also nominated for

100 years, 100 thrills. Interesting note on Rotten

Tomatoes here. We already saw that Revenge of

the Sith and New Hope did not. They were both

listed in our honorable mentions. They both outscored,

actually, Return of the Jedi and Rotten Tomatoes.

Rotten Tomatoes gives Return of the Jedi 79%,

Revenge of the Sith 80%, and a New Hope 94%.

Now, is that the Rotten Tomatoes people, or is

that the audience? Because I prefer listening

to the audience than the actual... This is their

approval rating, which is the critics and everything

like that. Dan, what are your thoughts on Return

of the Jedi? I mean, it's a Star Wars film. It's

very good. I think it's very good. I don't think

it's great. I think it's just lesser than what

came before. The emotional beats aren't as strong

as Empire Strikes Back. The action sequences

aren't as epic in feel to me than that of the

Battle of Hoth or the climax of... You know the

original story New Hope. I mean, it's a great.

It's a good movie No doubt, but it's just I don't

know I guess it's maybe it has a little brother

syndrome the fact that it's coming after such

a you know an epic movie like Empire Strikes

Back, but I just I don't know to me. There's

there's so many great sci -fi science fiction

films out there Within this own franchise like

I just didn't I don't put it up there compared

to the other Star Wars films I think it's a lesser

film and I would even say I would probably put

The Revenge of the Sith above Return of the Jedi.

I think I would rank it probably fourth with

the other two being higher So I am kind of surprised

that Return of the Jedi made it and New Hope

didn't considering that you know New Hope I for

me is probably a Better movie just in probably

more impactful for the genre then then Return

of the Jedi, but It's Star Wars, so I can't really

complain too much. One last thing from me. I'm

sorry, New Hope's ending as a kid was such a

downer. It was such a down ending. It was like,

wait, that's it? That's all? They get an award

and they go off to their separate parts? Well,

you also got to think, too, though, that that

was the first film and they didn't really know

if it was going to go to the second one. Right,

and I understand that. But even today, even back

when we recorded Total between episode 75 part

one and part two five hours of Star Wars coverage

on now on movie we can review Even when I went

back and watched new hope a couple of years ago.

I still felt that way like that's it Really,

that's all you got. Oh my god I think that's

a better representation of what war would be

like I think when you try to tie it into three

little bow You run into issues because it's just

you're not it When you're trying to have a Star

Wars to make it like everything just you know,

everything's perfect now You kind of run into

problems and maybe maybe if Lucas had flipped

the scenes where no, so I flipped them but Maybe

if something happened instead of just ending

on the award ceremony if something and hat like

if we had seen Darth Vader Finally stopped spinning

out of control You know what I mean like some

sort of afterthought after the award ceremony.

I would enjoy it more and don't get me wrong

I like a new hope. I like the film overall. I

just think the ending sucks That's all All right,

so we've had some Star Wars here Star Wars appearance

in our top ten No surprise there as we talk about

sci -fi films moving on to our number eight entry

And we're gonna stay in the 80s this time 1986

and we're gonna see another person's number one

film be eliminated here. Number eight on our

list is 1986's sequel film, Aliens. So Gourney

Weaver here and making an entrance and I did

think it was going to be interesting to see how

many original films we get and how many sequels

we have here. Obviously Return of the Jedi in

all essences is a sequel film, Aliens is a sequel

film. Four of us voted on it. It was Birdman

Dodds number one. Film on his list. It was on

JT's list. It was on Dan's number 20 on his list

and it was my number like 16 or something like

that. So the only people that didn't vote for

it were Steve and Mike So I'll let Dan start

here. How do you feel about aliens coming in

at number eight? Well, I talked about how I prefer

alien over aliens not it's this is like I think

alien just Alien compared to aliens is probably

the best way to like the sequel to Originally

the sequel combo just because of how it can cross

genres would still be just as great You know

aliens is far more of an action movie than alien

which is more of science fiction horror thriller

and aliens is your science fiction action But

I love aliens. It has some great use of practical

effects that movie holds up so well love Michael

Bean And you gotta love Scowling and Weaver.

I think that's when she, like, you look at female

action stars, the ones we see today, like that,

even more so than Alien, it's when she kind of

really rose to the challenge and became this,

like, you know, kick -ass chick who would, like,

you know, shoot and ask questions later. And

there's some really great relationships with

that, like her relationship with Newt. Overall,

the Marines and that concept. I don't think Aliens

would work without Alien. though just in how

it sets up the idea of alien so well in the first

one that once you get the aliens you can get

into more action it's kind of like it's superhero

origin movie where you can establish you know

the powers in the first movie and then once you

get to the second one you can go all full blown

with all the action but again it's a great movie

I would have preferred seeing alien but I'm glad

this franchise didn't make it because it is deserving

and I'm glad aliens 3 didn't make it It did,

uh, obviously get nominated for seven Academy

Awards. Um, it, uh, has a 90, what, four, 98

% on Rotten Tomatoes. Um, and actually Rotten

Tomatoes did an analysis of the top 100 science

fiction films and they put aliens at, uh, number

10. So I guess we're somewhat in line with them.

Uh, Mike, what do you think here? Any more thoughts

on aliens? Nope. Never seen it. You've never

seen aliens. Haven't seen the entire frame. Wow.

Again. Horror movie. Just, nope. Not going to

work for me. But I would say Aliens is as much

as a horror movie as Ghostbusters. I mean, Ghostbusters

has plenty of horror elements to it as well.

And I don't like what, I don't, I guess, I don't

know. Why does a horror aspect make a movie bad?

I mean. Because I don't like the horror genre.

I'm not. a scary movie kind of person at all

whatsoever. Yes, there were a few scary moments

in Ghostbusters, but that's essentially a sci

-fi comedy, not a horrific film at all. I guess,

I don't know, like, what's the difference between,

like, so would you go to a movie that's a thriller?

Because those kind of been the same lines, being

thrill - The closest I have come is, like, Blade

and that kind of stuff. That's the closest I've

come to, like, thriller type movies. I'm just

saying, I understand not liking horror, but like

- Just there. I don't think the horror elements

and alien really would overshadow the action

I think if you're gonna watch an aliens film

like I think aliens would be a good one for you

because it is More action than it is horror.

There's a little horror but not really all that

much I think you would it wouldn't really bother

you I mean, I don't know for sure But I'm I think

if you're gonna watch an aspect of that for that

franchise should start with that one If you like

it, maybe check out alien, but you're really

doing yourself at the service because that movie

is is It's worth a watch for sure Again, let

me be clear. I have not seen the film. I don't

have an opinion either way So it's one of those

film. It's one of those film series where oh,

it's that okay. I'll go watch something else

now That's just the way I approach it Steve any

thoughts on aliens Um, I don't hate it. I don't

I don't really have an opinion of it, which is

why it's not on my list I consider It to to be

more of a horror film, which again, that's kind

of why you know that that kind of thing Like

horror thriller that's kind of why I left off

Ghostbusters is because it's kind of like a horror

comedy It's I agree it's it's a really good film

I I think it's the whole alien aspect is something

different that hadn't really been done at that

kind of time or to that degree. And then having

like the Android and everything else on there.

So no, it's a really good film. I just, I didn't

find it worthy of putting in my top 10 list.

Fair enough. You know, I think the franchise

definitely when I think of sci -fi obviously

first I think Star Trek and Star Wars But I definitely

think of aliens too as far as franchises go within

the sci -fi genre. So I'm glad that it is represented

Again, I kind of go back and forth between alien

and aliens I voted for aliens and I did not vote

for alien But I'm glad that at least one of them

did make the list and Don't see any problems

with that. So moving on to our number seven film.

We're gonna get out of the 80s At long last year.

We're gonna go to the 90s specifically 1999 Don't

judge it on its sequels here 1999's number seven

on our list would be the matrix If there has

ever been a film hurt more by its sequels in

the history of films, I don't know what it is

Matrix Definitely had an impact on the genre.

I don't know anybody who wasn't talking about

this film when it came out. It appears on a whole

lot of different people's lists as far as greatest

science fiction films. I think it's definitely

deserving of the list. It's not one of my personal

favorites. I did vote for it though, as did all

of us, again, except for Steve and Mike. So I'll

let Dan start here. What are your thoughts on

The Matrix? Yeah, the Matrix 2 I guess is one

that you can... It's similar to aliens as it's

as much action as it is in science fiction I

think what the matrix did was it took the concept

of You know Skynet and took it to the nth degree

and you know What happens if Skynet wins and

that you know in the way that's the matrix and

you talked about matrix sequels I just I don't

remember those ever happening. So I don't know

what you're talking about But yeah, you're right

that those those sequels really kind of hurt

it and I think too What's also hurt it is just

how many films came out to try to copy its style

still to this day with the bull time and just

the wire working which it kind of took from other

friends like a lot of Hong Kong films but it

it did it to the nth degree with amazing special

effects just technically alone with a lot of

films that were probably go over with this list

it advanced films beyond anything that we've

really seen up to that point it was a huge game

changer and it spawned a lot of wannabes things

like The Underworld series, which I like, but

there are obvious rip -offs of The Matrix and

stuff like even like Bulletproof Monk, which

was a really bad wannabe Matrix movie. But The

Matrix itself, it's great. The action sequences

are amazing. The shootout at the end with the

building invasion is so well -handled. The characters,

the costume design are all fun. It's kind of

dense with its philosophy and time, especially

as it goes on within the sequels, but the first

one I think melded them really well. There's

a great mystery aspect into it. It didn't go

too deep. You can still enjoy it on an entertainment

level while kind of appreciating its philosophy

and what it was trying to say, but definitely

deserving. Happy to see it on the list. A poll

done by, it's called Best in Film, the greatest

movies of our time. It was kind of a collaboration

of People Magazine and ABC News. They did a science

fiction section of that poll and they had Matrix

as their number four all time. As far as AFI

goes, it nominated it. for uh neo as a hero and

agent smith as a villain but neither of them

made their their list um it was nominated for

afi's top 10 of the sci -fi genre but did not

make that list it was ranked number 66 on 100

years 100 thrills uh mike what do you think about

the matrix not the matrix reloaded not the matrix

revolutions just i like the again i like all

three of them this the first one when it got

to some of the The creepy baby images kind of

freaked me out, but other than that, it's got

a good story. It's got amazing effects. It changed

the film industry landscape where everybody after

it used bullet time. It was just an awesome,

awesome movie. I absolutely enjoyed it. And I

am one of the few people that enjoy the sequels.

But you didn't vote for any of them. There were

too many more films that I enjoy more fair enough

Steve what are your thoughts that doesn't deserve

to be on our list or not? I would say yeah, I

mean I I I like the film but again, it's it's

not one that I would put in my list just because

one I think sci -fi I mean, yeah the the cyberspace

and plugging into the computer world and everything

else Yeah, that's definitely qualifying for sci

-fi But my I guess my definition is both nostalgic

and based on franchises and this franchise I

think kind of got hurt past the first film But

I I mean I like the first film and I like it

for what it is But again, that's not something

I would have put on my list Anybody else have

any other thoughts on the matrix before we head

into our number six entry? Nope All right number

six entry on our list. We're gonna go back to

the 80s this time We're gonna go to 1982 beating

matrix out by a single point and by far My biggest

jaw dropper on the entire list as far as how

this thing made our list 1982 is the thing What

the fuck um see you guys at number four This

is all Dan because Steve myself and Mike we did

not vote on the thing I'm still trying to figure

out how it made our top ten. So Dan, please defend

it the thing It's it's easily defendable. It's

an awesome awesome movie It's easily maybe not

easily but one of John Carpenter's best movies

the the king of the genre film It takes a great

concept of of men in trust and how it, and especially

during that time of, you know, the height of

the cold, not the height of the cold war, but

you have that aspect going on, and it takes that

allegory and uses, you know, a science fiction

film from the past and places it within our time.

Kurt Russell is awesome in that movie. The special

effects alone, again, great use of practical

effects, great use of suspense. If you're, Mike,

if you're not a horror fan, I would say don't

check out The Thing, because The Thing does have...

many horror aspects to it but it's it's perfectly

set within the you know the Antarctica using

that aspect combined with you know the fact that

they're isolated and they have no one to trust

they can't trust anyone and how it uses that

to build suspense perfectly John Carpenter was

completely on the ball when he made it the soundtrack

as well he does all of his music another great

score by him not as good as Escape from New York

but it's up there To another great characters

like Keith David, I believe is in the thing.

It's been a while since I've seen it So a lot

of I know a lot of people love him for his voice

acting and John Carpenter is really great at

taking character actors and getting awesome performances

from them And yes, they're not like Oscar worthy,

but they fit within the framework that he's building

So I am super surprised this movie made it I

voted for it because I love it. It's an awesome

movie it's who else voted for it because if no

one else voted for it except dan something happened

where dan broke into kevin's uh dan jt and dot

all voted for it it's well they all had it they

all had it somewhat high um i will say this on

rotten tomatoes journey through sci -fi the 100

best reviewed sci -fi movies uh the thing does

rank number 97 so i i guess that gives it some

great credibility there uh roger deeper gave

it two and a half stars out of four but i've

never agreed with much of what he said anyway

um i could see maybe if we were doing like a

horror countdown to get it in because i kind

of view it more as a horror film i just i don't

know i i don't see it stacking up against some

of the sci -fi films that we talked about in

the honorable mention list so that's my two cents

uh mike do you have anything to add never seen

it not even interested Another film, we're just

gonna make a list of films that Mike has not

seen. Steve, any thoughts on the thing? Have

you seen it? No, I have not seen it, but it's

not anything that would really appeal to me.

I saw the sequel or the reboot of the thing,

the modern version. I saw the trailer for that,

but again, the premise of it, I just didn't care

for it. I don't know. Don't judge it on the reboot.

That's like judging... Star Wars on episode one.

I think you can't do that. I would say matrix

on matrix 3 Exactly. It's it is it's a well -made

movie and even if people who don't like John

Carpenter films because he is a certain appeal

not you know his films aren't for everyone something

like You know assault on pre 613 is it's not

necessarily your film that everyone's gonna enjoy

but I think the thing it it gets it has a really

strong story about humanity and You say it's

not really a science fiction film and I could

see that but I think it is because it it takes

a science fiction aspect and it melds it within

a more grand scope of something that represents

the time and I think that's what science fiction

does really well, especially I'm not I'm not

saying that it's not science fiction film I'm

just saying like it's one of those for me that

when I think science fiction I don't think of

that first I said, you know, like horror film

or whatever I probably come to that eventually

not right away, but eventually Yeah, I could

understand it. It is very It is I guess you would

say that it built itself more so on it dispensed

in a science fiction concept So I could I agree

if you saw it and you would think that's more

of a horror movie than science fiction So I guess

since we're not doing a horror movie, maybe it's

nice to talk about one of them. There we go True.

That was that was one. Yeah, I guess we could

have done horror at some point, but Mike Mike

doesn't really like horror and I'd be producing

that episode. I wouldn't be recording it. Well

You know what I mean? Yeah. No, when I think

of the thing, I think of the ever blue -eyed

loving thing. That's what I think of. Anyway,

so that rounds up our first half of our countdown

and we will move on to our second half here by

jettisoning into the future from the 80s all

the way into the 2000s for our only entry from

2000 plus. That's our number five entry on the

film. Specifically, we are going to 2009. for

JJ Abrams, Star Trek. So we do have a Star Trek

appearance so far in our top 10. At Star Trek,

if you're going by the number wise, I believe

that's number 11. Again, just like Return of

the Jedi, the only two films on our top 10 that

were only voted on by two people. So two people

got this in there. And that would be Steve. It

was his number one. So none of our number ones

made it past number five And Mike had it at his

number two. So this is all you guys I mean I'll

talk about it, but let's start with Steve because

you had it number one This film I feel Really

captured the essence of the original series and

a lot of the series that had come before Not

only did it manage to do that it managed to tell

some of the backstory into the original series

kind of giving a altered look into how they all

became the crew of the Enterprise rather than

just jumping in first episode kind of thing.

And it also reinvented all the technology and

kind of modernized it so that it wasn't as stale

if the original series is kind of hard for you

to watch but you like the character dynamic.

but it also revitalized the franchise. So this

film has also kind of caused a lot of ripples

to the point that it's revitalized not only the

franchise, but it's also caused JJ Abrams to

get picked up for Star Wars to reboot that as

well, basically. Yep. As the casual Trekkie,

I will say that The performances in this three

of them well technically I guess four but three

main ones for me are spot -on Not necessarily

copies, but updates of the original characters,

and that's Kirk Bones and Scotty yes Boy was

Zachary Quinto is Spock he he's okay. He does

a good imitation of Nimoy and it's interesting

that they have Nimoy in the film as the future

Spock but like watching Karl Urban as as McCoy

is like they just revived the original actor

out of the grave really honestly it's that damn

close and that damn good as far as the overall

plot I love that I love the effects Chris Pine

as Kirk is just awesome. I'm actually in the

middle of as we record this I haven't finished

it yet, but I'm in the middle of watching the

documentary on Netflix called the captains where

Shatner gets all the captains together and and

Talks to them about their lives, and it's so

cool seeing pine and Shatner sit across from

each other I don't want to make this sound bad

because I think the 2009 version of Star Trek,

I think I had it in my top 10 films of 2009.

I really enjoyed the reboot and I think it did

excellent work for the franchise, getting it

back into importance and kind of waking people

up to the franchise in general as it had been

dormant for way too long. So I really appreciate

what the 2009 film did. Me personally, in creating

my list, I decided just because I was having

an possible time trying to come up with 20 that

I think like a lot of people I started looking

at franchises and starting to try to pick you

know what one film or what two films of that

franchise are the best and let me eliminate the

rest so that I can have room in my top 20 for

everything I think I need room for When it came

time for Star Trek obviously there's been 12

films So it's one of the franchises that has

the most films and what I did is I narrowed it

down to my favorite classic version my favorite

next -generation film and then my favorite out

of the two most recent ones So I voted for Wrath

of Khan. I voted for Star Trek seven generations

and I voted for Into Darkness Just because for

me I slightly enjoyed Into Darkness more than

I did the 2009 film even though I thoroughly

enjoyed the 2009 film as well. I am surprised

so far that one of the modern versions of Star

Trek is the one so far that we've seen in our

top ten. Obviously there's other ones that could

possibly make the rest of the countdown, but

if this is the only one, I do find it interesting

that it's the modern version. Dan, what do you

think about Star Trek 2009 making our list? Well,

I am not a Star Trek person at all. I'm not even

really a casual Trekkie in any way. I never really

watched the show. I think my first experience

with Star Trek was probably the documentary Trekkies.

I did go see the Star Trek in theaters, the reboot,

and I did love it. I thought it was a great summer

action film. It was a lot of fun coming into

that movie. There was really no baggage, really

no idea. I mean, I've watched a little bit of

it. show here and there but nothing really just

from being within the culture you kind of you

know who characters are you know just you know

they've been you know satirized so many times

you have an idea of who they are before you get

there but as someone with no baggage i really

found it fun i i thought it did something interesting

in how it kind of rebooted the franchise but

then also allowed the original kind of stay intact

kind of doing the separate timeline thing that

it did. I think that was a good way to do it

and kind of being respectful. I know some fans

still have issues with that, but Star Trek fans

always seem like they're going to be angry no

matter what, for some of them at least. But I

don't, I'm surprised like you, Kevin, that it's

the one that makes it. I did, after seeing Star

Trek, the 2009 version, I did go back and it

did get me interested into the... franchise so

I went back and watched all the other films and

then after watching them all I think the one

I still think is the best is Wrath of Khan and

maybe even episode four but so I'm surprised

Wrath of Khan didn't make it I probably would

have put that above this one I don't have any

issues with it because you look at the decade

of the 2000s the best science fiction films of

that decade yeah I think Star Trek is definitely

deserving so it's good to see the love kind of

go out of the 80s into other decades yeah a little

bit So yeah, it's good that it's good. It's there

It's a great way to reuse had revitalized the

franchise and give people like me who is not

a Star Trek fan at all The fact that they got

me interested in into those movies and had me

go back. I mean that's that's being a successful

That's being a huge success I think that's what

I wanted to do and if it was able to accomplish

that goal I think it shows you just how strong

a movie it was Got a 95 % right now on Rotten

Tomatoes. Boston Globe actually called it the

best prequel ever A lot of accolades there. It

is the first Star Trek film ever to receive an

Academy Award. So I guess it has that going for

it. I'm glad Star Trek is represented, at least

so far. Like I said, I'm a little surprised.

But like you said, it was very successful. And

I did think, if you take the decade, that it's

probably one of the top, if not the top, science

fiction film from the first decade of the 2000s

here. Mike or Steve, other thoughts on Star Trek

before we move on? Don't know I I've seen it

so much through FX. I basically have it and basically

ingrained in my brain at this point. I mean I

can almost It's kind of like when we were kids

and we would watch Transformers the movie over

and over and over and over again to the point

where we can just quote the movie anytime it's

one of the it's becoming one of those movies

and I've seen it so many times now where it's

like Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I remember

that. Oh, that's when that happened. So that's

it's not necessarily a bad thing Steve Steve

I Think we pretty much summed it up Okay. All

right. So given that all of our number ones are

now gone And we will move on to our number fourth

pick. We're gonna go back to the 80s I'm actually

somewhat. I mean, I know we've had a lot of 80s

films. So maybe not super Happy that we have

so many 80s films, but I'm somewhat surprised

that this has made it as high as it did And this

is where we start to separate ourselves up through

this point Going from our number six with Star

Trek all the way through to like ten of our honorable

mentions It was all within like a ten -point

span This now jumps eight points ahead of Star

Trek So we're starting to separate ourselves

and that I was very pleasantly surprised that

this got the amount of love that it did Mike

and Steve are the only two that did not vote

for this 1982 film and that is for Blade Runner.

I'm surprised that it got as much love as it

did. I voted for it obviously. Harrison Ford

dystopian science fiction thriller here. Very

happy that it made our list. I'm a little surprised

that it made it as high as it did coming in obviously

at number four. We've been doing it a lot so

let's start with Dan again on your thoughts on

Blade Runner. I'd love Blade Runner, it's my

number five, and if you talk about films that

are influential for the franchise or for the

genre of science fiction, I think you can argue

Blade Runner is maybe one of the most, even more

so than Star Wars, just in how it looks at dystopian

futures and how it shapes those worlds. Look

at something like Fifth Element. That movie wants

to be Blade Runner, just in how it designs its

cars, how it designs its cities, everything it

tries so hard to be Blade Runner. I like Fifth

Element, but it's... what Blade Runner does too,

being a fan of the crime genre and noir, it takes

the noir aspect of the Philip K. Dick movies,

what's a Philip K. Dick book, and anyway, and

he puts it in a science fiction world. And what's

interesting too is with Blade Runner, similar

to Star Wars, is there are a trillion cuts of

Blade Runner. What's interesting is that Lucas

gets slammed for that. People hate it. Every

year he's coming out with a new version of it.

Blade Runner, not so much. And I think a key

reason for that is because Ridley Scott makes

the other versions available. You can get a Blu

-ray, you can get the original cut, you can get

the director's cut, you can get the international

cut, you can get the final cut. There's four

separate cuts to that movie. If you're gonna

watch one, because I think that's a big question,

which one do you watch? I would say watch the

director's cut or watch the final cut. Mostly

the director's cut. I think it is an excellent

movie. The first one, the original version, I

think is good. The director's cut is great. It

removes a lot of the unnecessary aspects of the

first film, like the voiceover. It adds more

mystery to it. It adds more character development.

And it just makes that it makes that world come

alive even more. So yeah, I'm really happy you

made the list I wasn't sure if it was going to

because it's a decisive film because it's slow.

It's slow as hell I think the first few times

I watched it. I probably fell asleep, but as

I grown older I've been able to appreciate a

little bit more Birdman died had this ranks number

seven JT had it number eight Dan had it number

five. I had it number 17 Talk about some recognitions

here. I know some of these presenters you might

not be familiar with, but The Village Voice ranked

at number 94 as best films of the 20th century.

Online Film Critics Society ranked at number

2 as the top 100 sci -fi films of the past 100

years. Entertainment Weekly top 50 cult movies

came in at number 9. The Guardian ranked at number

1, top 10 sci -fi films of all time. Total film

editors 47th of the greatest movies all time

AFI 97 and it's a hundred years a hundred movies

AFI number six on its top ten sci -fi films of

all time and Empire had it at number 20 of the

500 greatest movies of all time And IGN number

one on their top 25 at the sci -fi movies of

all time So a lot of people a lot of love for

Blade Runner Mike. Have you seen this one? Nope

It was doing between Empire and Jedi added to

the list Steve have you seen this one at all?

No, I haven't seen it. I've heard that there's

a lot of great aspects to seeing this and I've

even heard rumors of sequel or whatever but I

Have not seen it. I don't really have an opinion

of it either way, but I do know that it is one

of those cult classics that Should be in the

top ten just because it's got such a great following

among the sci -fi Fans Yeah, and I think and

I think Dan kind of hit it on the on the head

there it did have a huge impact on This type

of sci -fi like the dystopian type sci -fi genre

sub genre. Maybe you should say So I definitely

think it's worthy So yeah, let's once again leave

the 80s This time to go into the year 1991 for

our number third film on our list and the first

one that was also on Steve's list So he's gonna

be happy. We finally got stuff that Steve voted

on here in our number three spot 1991 Terminator

2 judgment day Steve start us off. What do you

think about Terminator 2 coming in at number

three? To me, I think that this was the best

Terminator film out of all of them Which isn't

saying much because after two they kind of fell

off the rocker there, but uh It was kind of cool

seeing Arnold as the old outdated Terminator

that's now on the good side, and then you're

saying you know the ramifications of what happened

in the first film I'll be at 20 you know 16 20

years later And then you have the ultra you know,

version of the Terminator, the T1000, I think

it was. Yeah. And the ability to change shape

and the liquid metal. I mean, just the whole

concept of a lot of it was really cool. It was

pretty action packed. And then they kind of give

you a little bit more information about what

has happened before and what happened after and

that kind of thing. And then I think that film

is not only good for playing back to the first

film and setting up future films or even ending

the franchise there without the need for another

film. It's also the first film on our countdown

that made it onto everybody but one. The only

person that did not vote for Terminator 2 would

be JT. He's Canadian, we'll forgive him. You

say that every countdown. I know. JT voted for

Terminator instead. I'm not saying that some

people didn't vote for both films, but he's the

only person that did not vote for Terminator

2 Judgment Day, so it's the first film that had

five people vote on it. Mike, you had this towards

the bottom of your list, I think around like

16th. What did you think about Terminator 2 coming

in at number three? At least JT didn't rank salvation

better than the original Terminator. I like Terminator

2, but again, it's one of those films where I

can go back to every so often. It's not something

I can watch all the time. I actually saw this

before I saw the original film. And I just, on

its own, not even as a sequel, on its own as

it's telling the story. And that's one of the

things that Terminator movies have done well.

Well, at least... one two and three where they

have the continuity but they don't they they

all act as their individual stories and salvation

was just a heaping pile of dog crap in my opinion

um batman is john connor give me a break um i

don't wear hockey pads uh but no the second film

was awesome The acting was great. The effects

were great. Robert Patrick as the T1000 was absolutely

amazing and awesome. So awesome that it led to

one of the best spoofs ever in Hot Shots Part

D. Part D? Yeah. Steve, you had this at 18. Mike,

you had it at 16. Dan, you had this at 8. And

Dodd had this at 5. I had this at 4. So a lot

of love for Terminator 2. Dan, what are your

thoughts on Terminator 2? I think this is what

may be the first time we had a director repeat

on the top 10 with James Cameron coming in again.

Which is, I'm not surprising since he's had such

a huge impact within the science fiction genre.

But Terminator 2, maybe if not... one of probably

the best sequels of all time. We might get to

a little bit better one later on the list, I'm

assuming. But it's great. I talked about with

The Matrix how it advanced special effects, same

goes for Terminator 2, if not more so. The great

father -son aspect relationship between John

Connor and the Terminator and James Cameron is

one of the few people who can use... Schwarzenegger

well. Schwarzenegger is not a great actor but

this is kind of like the role he was born to

play. His robotic voice and his like his monotone

and kind of limited range as an actor fit well

for the character and it just seeing him kind

of you know relate with John Connor was I think

gave that movie a lot more heart to it and I

think that's why I think a lot of people gravitated

towards it. I love the first Terminator but I

think the Terminator 2 Makes it is a far better

movie the actions better I think standard Connor

is a better character in the second film and

it how it kind of uses time travel and creates

a lot of time travel paradoxes like But yeah,

I'm glad to see it. It's well -deserving and

it's again one of those movies that is just as

much action as the decide science fiction, but

It works and uses both aspects of both genres

really well together. 98 % on Rotten Tomatoes.

AFI ranked at number 77 on their 100 years 100

thrills. How about this for an interesting thing?

As far as AFI is 100 heroes and villains, Terminator

was ranked number 48 on the list of heroes and

at number 22 on the list of villains, as it was

portrayed in the original Terminator. So the

character was the only one to appear on both

the hero and the villain list. Hasta La Vista

Baby was ranked number 76 on the quotes of all

time, number 33 on total films, top 100 films.

And as far as AFI's top 10 science fiction or

top 10 films, it was ranked number eight in the

science fiction genre. Empire ranked at number

35 and it's 500 greatest movies of all time.

So again a lot of love for Terminator 2 I wasn't

sure how it was gonna go with Terminator and

Terminator 2 because It's not one where there's

a clear consensus on on which one's a better

film A lot of people love the first one. A lot

of people love second one. A lot of people love

both of them So three of us voted for the original

one and five of us voted for the sequel. So I

guess that's telling Any other thoughts on Terminator

before we move to our number two film on our

list? Nope, nope. All right, we're going to our

number two film. We're jumping this time. I've

been talking about how close the point system

has been. We're going to jump 43 points now.

Way, way into stratosphere point wise for our

number two film, 1980s. Star Wars Empire Strikes

Back coming in at number two. Again, five people

voted on it. JT did not. Again, he's Canadian

and I don't think we can forgive him for this

one. He voted for A New Hope. Jerk! A New Hope

was the only Star Wars film JT voted on. He voted

for that in the number four spot. There's something

wrong with him. As far as Empire Strikes Back,

it was Birdman Dodd's number three film. It was

Dan's number three film. It was your number seven

film, Mike. It was Steve's twelfth film and it

was my number three. Star Wars, Empire Strikes

Back. Mike, start us off. It's the middle part

of the story of the original trilogy it This

is why I wish something would have happened at

the end of the first film Not necessarily to

lead us into this but I just like when I watch

these films back to back the original trilogy

I Felt disconnected between New Hope and and

Empire because New Hope ends on such a good note

then Empire It starts off like I don't know three

months later for six months. However, the timeline

works in the Star Wars universe I don't know

and they're on this different planet and they're

doing this and I think it's a great I think it's

a great opening I think it's it's interesting

to see that Han is still working with the rebels

Luke finally comes to terms with his destiny

and starts his training We meet the crotchety

annoying ass old Yoda You know, we see other

people driving the Millennium Falcon. We see

R2 fixing the Millennium Falcon. What do you

know about the hyperdrive? It's just overall

that there are great aspects of this film. And

then the second thing is that it has such a downtone

to it. It has such dark. things happening in

it because you've got this whole Darth Vader

is his father and This whole and the lightsaber

battle was awesome. Don't get me wrong, but it's

just this movie ends on such a down ending I

think that's what's part of its appeal though,

too Steve you know you had this ranked as your

number one Star Wars film So how do you feel

about Star Wars Empire Strikes Back coming in

at number two? I'm fine with it because It's

one of the more action -packed films and it's

monumental for uh you know the I am your father

line and then the chopping off of Luke's hand

and you know all the the repercussions that happen

um I can kind of see where the disconnect happens

between people with A New Hope and Empire Strikes

Back however whenever you're starting a franchise

of any kind I mean I know that they were made

out of order and everything but still it applies

to both franchises or both trilogies. The first

film always has, you know, the basic introductions

and then everything has to end all happy in case

they don't make the next film. The second film

is where they get to play more and spread it

out into another film to where they can have

more room to play, so to speak. So it's... I

can kind of get that, but at the same time it's...

it's made to basically hit the ground running

and kind of elevate the franchise to new heights.

So I'm fine with where it landed on the list.

Wizard selected this ending of the Empire Strikes

Back as the greatest cliffhanger of all time.

Darth Vader was ranked as the third greatest

film villain of all time by AFI. The most well

-known line of The Empire Strikes Back, No, I

am your father, is often misquoted as Luke, I

am your father. The line was selected as one

of the 400 nominees for AFIs 100 Movies 100 Quotes.

Yoda's Try Not Do or Do Not, There Is No Try,

was also a nominee for the same list. Nominated

for AFIs 100 Years 100 Movies, nominated for

AFIs 100 Years 100 Thrills, and nominated again

when they did their anniversary for 100 Years

100 Movies. So Empire Strikes Back obviously

has a lot of critical acclaim. Dan, what do you

feel about it being at our number two spot amongst

the franchise in general? I'm very happy. I honestly

thought this would be number one. Just going

off of most of the acclaim, usually this is allotted

as the number one of science fiction films of

recent memory. But number two is fine. I think

it's far and away. best Star Wars film. You talked

about the downer ending. For me, give me an ending

like that over pandering any day of the week.

I appreciate a movie, a director who's willing

to leave you on a cliffhanger, as long as it's

a deserved cliffhanger. And I think that's one

of the best well -deserved cliffhangers of all

time. Look, I Am Your Father. Yes, at this point,

we kind of know it. It's become commonplace.

What are the biggest spoilers of all time that

you can't spoil because how do you not know it?

But I think too what what to has more so than

the other films, I mean They're all great, but

I think what I think elevates to above the other

two It's just it's its ability to use the characters

and it's great character development. We see,

really, Luke come into his own, still question

who he is as a person, and then go through this

huge, gigantic struggle and then have to deal

with his father. There's a lot of great symbolism,

there's a lot of great imagery within Empire

Strikes Back, and has, to me, one of the best

openings ever with the Battle of Hoth. That opening...

It's perfect. It sets the stage well. It builds

up to a great conclusion. The flow of it works

really well. The at -at walkers are so menacing

and just how slowly they kind of just take over.

I just love the snow. Maybe I'm just in the snow

because I love the thing and I love the Battle

of Hoth, but I love that aspect of it. and then

Yoda. It introduces us to Yoda and if all of

the characters in Star Wars, he may be one of

the most iconic beyond, besides Darth Vader.

So I'm happy to see it as number two. I think

I agree with you on a lot of this. Number one,

the Battle of Hoth. I think that's just such

a great sequence. All the stuff as far as Yoda

goes and how he's involved, the bounty hunters.

You know job at the hut There's there's so many

great things here Lando and Cloud City There's

just so many things to like about this movie

that I absolutely have no problem with it coming

in At number two at all Mike we're gonna say

something Yeah, not counting the expanded universe

or any of the Star Wars novels because I've never

read any of that stuff I'm sorry seeing this

movie alone Boba Fett is easily the most throwaway

character out of any of them because he doesn't

do anything. He stands there and holds a friggin

gun and his ending is he gets swallowed by a

sarlacc. His father, yes, I know the prequels

didn't happen until later, but his father gets

his fucking head cut off by... Doesn't matter,

still awesome. The Fettes are not awesome whatsoever.

They are useless. They're awesome. Useless. They're

awesomely useless. Steve, what do you think about

Empire Strikes Back? I don't know who's talked

yet. Yeah, I've already talked. Oh, okay. Mike,

you still stick with this not being the best

Star Wars film? Overall, it is the best Star

Wars film. As far as story -wise, three and six

are my favorites. Alright. I guess we'll leave

it at that. Direct your hate mail to TFG1. I'm

just kidding. Alright, so that's our number two

spot. That means there can be only one left.

It is the only film that was rated on all six

lists. I know what it is. Number four by Birdman

Dodd. One, two, three, four. Number seven by

Dan. Number two by JT. Number three by Mike.

Number two by Steve. Number two by myself. It's

1985's. Back to the Future. Dan, since you had

voted the lowest on your list, are you upset

that Back to the Future came in at number one,

or what are your feelings and thoughts on this?

No, I have no issue with it being number one.

You talked about how, depending on the day of

the week, what is your favorite Star Wars movie?

You can almost say the same with this entire

genre. I mean, if I watch Back to the Future,

it might be my number one tomorrow, which is

one of those movies that... Back to the Future

to me is the quintessential film of how to be

fun. It is just a great fun time. It doesn't

take itself too seriously. It's that thrill ride.

Places you into a story that you want to be a

part of It's such a great world such a great

use of time travel probably the best time travel

movie of all time Even I would say even a little

bit better than Terminator just in how it kind

of creates its rules I guess with time travel.

It's so hard to establish rules and establish

what it means and it uses things like pictures

and disappearing and things that maybe maybe

don't make sense if you really analyze them,

but it makes it work because it's just so well

told. You have great characters, Marty McFly,

Doc, I mean Christopher Lloyd as Doc, I mean

how do you not love that? And also the awesome,

I think what tops it off, I don't know if we

went back and counted our top 10, I'm sure there's

a lot of John Williams, especially if you went

into honorable mentions. Back to the future theme

gotta love it. I mean, it's it is that it's the

themes that we don't have anymore And I wish

we had more themes like that where you hear it.

He's actually Alan Sylvester I'm so far much

into John Williams. I just assume everyone is

John Williams Anyways, thank you for correcting

me. But anyways, it's still an awesome theme

No, it is. Yeah, let me let me get the percentages

out of weight 97 % on rotten tomato So a lot

of people like that keep going with your thought

Dan, but yeah, I just think I we don't really

have that anymore We don't have that like you

hear that that thing even you know exactly it's

and it's back to the future You you hear it and

you could have the TV on the other room. You

hear it come on You're like all back to the future

We don't really have that anymore like you look

at Dark Knight. You look at The Avengers there's

they really have themes. They're not really there

Their scores are more so downers in a good way,

but I do miss them. So I'm happy with it being

number one. I think it's a really universal film

where you can be a hardcore cinephile or just

a casual film goer and love back to the future.

I think you bring up a good point, though. I

think the powers that be these days underestimate

how much score and how much songs can carry or

elevate a film. And I think too many times the

scores are used as undertones and There are so

many films that the music makes it that much

better of a film And this is one of those not

just with the themes and I'll get into the AFI

because it kind of relates to that It was nominated

for a hundred years a hundred movies nominated

for a hundred years a hundred laughs nominated

for a hundred years a hundred thrills It had

to nominate the songs for a hundred years a hundred

songs the power of love and Johnny B good Had

a nominated quote, Rhodes, where we're going,

we don't need Rhodes. And it was ranked number

10 on AFI's Top 10 Science Fiction Films. So,

saying that, saying that, I know you're a huge

Back to the Future fan, Mike, so how do you feel

about this being at number one? Want to say something

outside of the sci -fi genre you mentioned you

guys mentioned that there aren't a lot of composers

and Filmmakers really paying attention to the

score nowadays and I would say two films at least

since 2000 since the year 2000 that Kind of go

against that is they're both from Brian Tyler

one is for paparazzi and the other is for Iron

Man 3 Both of those scores elevated those movies

and what happened in them, at least in my mind

they did. As far as Back to the Future goes,

it's one of the most quotable movies, again.

Next Saturday night, we're sending you back to

the future. Great Scott, who hasn't used Great

Scott? 1 .21 gigawatts, it's not possible. There's

just so many things about this movie. See if

you bastards can do 90 You know, there are just

so many I mean we could sit here all night and

quote this damn film There's just so many good

quotes about it. The story is Again, I'm glad

they went with just dealing with time versus

time and space It hits on the quotable level,

it hits on the musical level, it hits on the

science fiction slash time travel level, it hits

on the comedy, it hits on the suspense slash

actions. I mean, it just hits on a lot. There's

a lot to love in a lot of different ways and

it appeals to multiple age groups. Right. And

this is one of those eighties films that no matter

how old we get, no matter how many years in the

future, someone will see this movie, and it will

not be dated. You know, people say, oh, that

stuff's dated, oh, that stuff's so horrible because

it was so dated. The movie, specifically Back

to the Future, the first film, it doesn't apologize

for being a film set in 1985. That's the whole

point of the entire franchise. Everything in

the three films revolves around 1985 and that's

what is so damn good about it. The acting is

great. You know, we've already said the music

is great. The story is great. I will say the

one thing about the acting though, no matter

what role he has been in since this, I still

find Crispin Glover to be the creepiest actor

alive. No horror movie could scar me as much

as some of his performances do. I wasn't interested

to see going into this because I'm one that kind

of holds Back to the Future and Back to the Future

2 so close as far as which one I like better.

And I kind of go back and forth. I wasn't sure

how, you know, they would maybe hurt each other,

but it ended up not hurting Back to the Future

at all because it ran away with this thing. And

Back to the Future 2 fell a little short. Steve,

what are your thoughts on Back to the Future

being number one? I couldn't think of a better

place for it. Honestly, I think that that is

One of the most memorable sci -fi films of all

time just because Everybody's heard the lines

from it. Everybody's seen something from it.

Everybody's You know knows what the DeLorean

is because of that movie or I mean just overall

that that film there's so much Of what could

have been or the thoughts of modern day in 1985.

And then there's all these other concepts thrown

in their time travel and, you know, car having

to hit 88 miles per hour to do it, altering time

or making sure that they don't alter time. And

then then you have the dynamic of the doctor

and Marty. I mean, that's irreplaceable. I mean,

this whole movie is not a film that really ages.

I mean, it does, but it doesn't. It's one of

those films that if they were to ever redo it,

it would pale by comparison tenfold. I mean,

this film stands really well on its own. Perhaps

no other film, no other franchise outside of

maybe Star Trek that has had so many things come

true about the future. Items that items and things

that they use that end up actually being reality

I think that's cool about a lot of the things

you see in the back of the future franchise one

of the coolest things really quickly about this

franchise is Was it last year? Yeah, it was his

last year Nike came out and made a commercial

the power laces But it says in the commercial

that, we're sorry, power laces won't actually

work until 2015. That's almost as bad as the

Star Trek joke, not installed until Tuesday.

We also recently had a resurgence there with

the video game, that a lot of people have said

it's really good. Alright, so that is our list.

Before we go down the whole list, I want to go

through AFI's top 10 sci -fi films. Obviously,

as usual, there's a lot more. Classic stuff in

there, but AFI's top 10 sci -fi films starts

with number 10 at Back to the Future, then it

goes to 1956 Invasion of the Body Snatchers,

Terminator 2 Judgment Day, the original 1979

Alien, Blade Runner, The Day the Earth Stood

Still from 1951, A Clockwork Orange, E .T., which

we had in a different list, Star Wars and New

Hope, and 2001 A Space Odyssey, which I know

Dan likes it, so I'm not going to talk about

it. AFI's top 10 list, our top 10 list goes like

this. Ghostbusters, Return of the Jedi, Aliens,

Matrix, The Thing, Star Trek, Blade Runner, Terminator

2, Empire Strikes Back, and back to the future.

Where did we get it right and where did we get

it wrong, Dan? Well, I know probably I'll be

the one of the only people that defends the thing

So I do think we got it right there just because

I think it's nice to spread the love to different

types of movies And it but I think where we got

it wrong. I don't know wrong is the best word.

I think if we're gonna Put in a different movie

I would say maybe remove return of the Jedi and

take in put in the original Star Wars But besides

that I think it's relatively strong. Nothing

really jumps out as to me that doesn't belong

there. I'm happy that with fantasy kind of went

by the book. I don't think we had that many surprises.

With this list I think we do. Like Back to the

Future at one to me is a huge surprise but it's

a pleasant one and I think it's because it's

so universally loved. So I'm happy with it, honestly.

There's nothing really I think is a glaring error.

Yeah, you can rearrange things here and there.

But overall, I think we have a good mixture.

We do have a lot of 1980s movies. But if you

look at the 1980s, it's a really strong year

for science fiction. 1982 alone, you had Star

Trek, you had The Thing, you had Blade, you had

ET. So I think the 80s is probably the best decade

ever for science fiction. So having a lot of

80s films in there makes sense. Interesting to

you we can go through the 80s because you had

1980 was Empire Strikes Back Then we had 1982

with Blade Runner and the thing 1983 with Return

of the Jedi 1984 Ghostbusters 1985 back to the

future 1986 aliens So we hit a lot of the years

of the 80s. It wasn't all from necessarily the

same year I guess my only thing is I don't really

have complaints about anything in our top 10.

I am somewhat surprised of which Star Trek made

it even though I love the film I could see that

slot being Wrath of Khan or possibly a different

Star Trek film but I don't have a problem with

it being the 2009 version I guess you know just

because if I was making my personal list I take

the thing out and in that slot I either put a

Mad Max film or a Planet of the Apes film just

because I think those two franchises would be

Cool to be represented here. But other than that,

I don't really have any complaints. Again, I

am also surprised. I just figured a Star Trek

or a Star Wars film would take number one, so

back to the future being there is, again, a good

surprise, but a surprise nonetheless. Mike, what

do you think of the list overall? You can take

the thing out and replace it with Tron, Tron

Legacy, iRobot, Intah. There's so many on our

list. I don't know about Tron, I'm sorry. Yes.

If you look at the special... The Thing is a

horror movie, dammit. It's not sci -fi. And Tron

is just a bad movie. I'm sorry. Tron Legacy was

definitely much better. I don't like that franchise,

I'm sorry. I mean, if you're gonna attack Thing,

I gotta stick up for, you know, the David and

the Scoliath battle, so... Yeah, right. Just

don't say iRobot again, please. iRobot, yes.

No, but other than that, other than the thing

being in the wrong place, I don't have any real

complaints about it at all. The only franchise

that we had multiple there is Star Wars. Otherwise,

look at the franchises we have. Back to the Future,

Star Wars, Terminator, Star Trek, Aliens, Ghostbusters,

Matrix. I mean, we hit a lot of the major sci

-fi franchises or trilogies or whatever you want

to call it. So I think that says something of

itself. Keep going, Mike. No, I mean, I think

the list overall is fine, minus that one hard

voting choice. Three people voted on it. That's

more people than voted on the Star Trek or Return

of the Jedi. Yeah. Anyway, overall, no, I think

it's interesting where we ended up with it. Again,

I'm sure on a different day. We all probably

would have ended up with something different

for the top ten It's gonna be really interesting

to see what happens next week with the final

list which we'll talk about after Steve gives

his thoughts on this one I Don't really have

a problem with the list and how it turned out

I mean, yeah, I don't personally care for the

thing and I could think of other films that could

go on there not to continuously rain on Dan's

parade there But I mean, yeah, it's a it's a

nice well -rounded list I mean, I'm sure that

list will change as new films come out and as

everybody gets to see different things that we

missed this time around But I can't really complain

about it too much, you know, I didn't bring this

up before but I will real quick because I missed

the opportunity. But the least voted on things

in our top 10 were The Thing, Star Trek, and

Return of the Jedi. The most voted on honorable

mentions, the most voted overall as far as number

of people's list would be Star Wars, New Hope.

And then after that we had Star Trek, First Contact,

Revenge of the Sith, Wrath of Khan, Robocop,

Back to the Future 2, Terminator, the original

one, and Fifth Element were the most voted on

movies not to make the list. So I don't have

any complaints, you know, like I said, I would

switch and put Planet of the Apes or Mad Max

in there, but I can understand that apparently

I was outvoted this time. That's okay. Mike?

Well, we hope you enjoyed this episode of Geek

Cast Radio and wish you'll join us next time

when we will be talking about in episode 50 our

top 10 superhero films This will conclude our

AFL AFI style Countdowns here on Geek Cast Radio

after episode 50. I think we will do episode

50 .5 Where we do a recap or might be a special

episode? I don't know whatever we decide to do,

but we will definitely be doing a recap on these

last 10 countdown lists and just see what everyone's

thoughts are on how the entire project that we've

done here at Geocast Radio turned out. For now,

I'm TF2 on Mike with Steve Megatron Phillips

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No, Luke. I am your father. That's not true!

That's impossible! And Princess Leia is your

sister. That's not true! That's... improbable!

will be defeated by Ewoks. That's... very unlikely.

And as a child, I built C -3PO. Huh? And the

force? Well, that's just microscopic bacteria

in your bloodstream called midichlorians. Look,

if you're not gonna take this seriously, I'm

out. Hey, Doc, we better back up. We don't have

enough road to get up to 88. Roads? Where we're

going, we don't need roads. Father. I am not

our father. There are so few Vulgas left. We

cannot afford to ignore each other. Then why

did you sin Kirkaboard when you alone could have

explained the truth? Because you needed each

other. I could not deprive you of the revelation

of all that you could accomplish together. Of

a friendship that would define you both. In ways

you could not yet realize. How did you persuade

him to keep your secret? He inferred that universe

-ending paradoxes would ensue should he break

his promise. You lied. Oh... I... I implied.

A gamble. An act of faith. One I hope that you

will repeat in the future is Starfleet. In the

face of extinction, it is only logical I resign

my Starfleet commission and help rebuild our

race. And yet you can be in two places at once.

I urge you to remain in Starfleet. I've already

located a suitable planet on which to establish

a Vulcan colony. Spock, in this case, do yourself

a favor. Put aside logic. Do what feels right.

Since my customary farewell would appear oddly

self -serving, I shall simply say, good luck.

Coming back in time, changing history? It's cheating.

A trick I learned from an old friend. Hasta la

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