Music of the 2000s

Episode 33 Music of the 2000s Okay, this is another

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and welcome to Geek Caster Radio episode 33.

This will continue the epic music spotlight we

have planned here at GCR. I am one of your hosts,

DFG1Mike, and joining me is Mike the Birdman

Dodd from This Week in Geek and all the other

shit he does. It's true. I tend to get around.

I am like the village bicycle. I'm kind of a

slut. It's true. Zombie village bicycle with

a shotgun. Exactly. Vampire zombie village bicycle

idiot with a shotgun. It's true. I don't sleep

and I feed on the blood of the living and if

I don't like it, I blow you in half. That's right.

Today we're going to be talking about all kinds

of music from the 2000s. Oh, boy. So really quickly,

what have you been up to? Well, I don't know

when this is airing. So recently I was just contacted

by MTV Canada and I've auditioned for a show

called MTV Creeps, which has to do with my social

media presence like Facebook, Twitter. So I imagine

it'll be me raging about nerdy things, talking

about Robocop, the amount of girls. that like

to randomly flirt with me, and I know I'm going

to be answering questions about that, and likely

why you play video games, why you make me so

mad. So that's what I imagine is going to happen.

Other than that, review a day, powering along

as always, and just keeping busy like I always

do, still sleeping the minimum of three hours

a day, and good times. Awesome. Awesome. yes

and before we get into the music of the 2000s

we need to kind of put a disclaimer out there

mike is someone who listens to not your average

he does not listen to mainstream stuff normally

this episode is mostly going to be mainstream,

but we have set aside here in the spotlight later

an episode for non -mainstream music, but he

listens to mainly like nerdcore rap and stuff

like that, whereas I listen to stuff like Nickelback

and Theory of a Dead Man and stuff that is really

simple. I don't mind the same three guitar chords.

See, I guess with me because I went... to radio

school and I've worked in the radio industry

for about the last five years I've really fallen

out of the mainstream simply because once once

you're in that type of business you start to

notice patterns and eventually once those patterns

become more and more apparent you kind of become

like Nicolas Cage and knowing and it drives you

crazy and you just need to get the hell out of

there so I I've got some theories because we

do have a couple topics that we're that we're

going to be covering tonight And I can relate

it to video games, especially if you live in

southern Ontario or anywhere in the Niagara Golden

Horse Show. I'm going to name a couple of radio

stations and I'm waiting for these guys to come

breathing down my neck saying, how dare you!

But I've got evidence, so don't worry. And you'll

see why I've kind of left the mainstream. I listened

to a few mainstream bands like Rise Against,

Foo Fighters, stuff like that. More... more hard

rock and punk stuff, but I do listen to some

indie bands like CKY and the like. Right. For

me, by the time the 2000s rolled around, I found

a few new bands in the beginning of the 2000s

era and I've liked them ever since. For me at

this point in my life, It's mainly bands that

I've liked for the last 10, 15 years, or it's

mainly 80s and 90s music that I grew up with

as a kid. I have not listened to a radio station

in over two and a half years. Well, you should

probably fix that, because there are some great

bands out there that are getting discovered through

radio play. The problem is, though, a lot of

these bands... and get way too much radio exposure.

And I think they sold out as a large degree as

artists. And I know we're going to get into this

later. Oh, yes. Well, yes, we're going to get

into this. The reason why I bring that up that

I haven't listened to radio in a very long time

is because it's not as relevant anymore. It's

not only that, but again, it goes to too much

airplay. Like, I can give you a pretty simple

1999. Well, no, 2001. my local rock radio station

at the time, every two hours was how you remind

me. Don't get me wrong, I am a huge Nickelback

fan, I love them, but hearing that song every

two hours, every single day, I get the song was

popular, it launched them into, and we'll talk

about this later in their spotlight, it launched

them into that, but I don't like when any song

it doesn't have to just be Nickelback but when

any song if it's a song i like that gets over

and over and over play my guess is that station

was likely a uh a top 40 and it was it was it

was a new rock it was a it was a completely rock

station now Now, let me ask this. Was the station

local or was it a... No, it was local. Okay.

Cause I know sometimes for radio stations, they

have things called satellite stations where basically

your news and weather, et cetera, are local,

but the music is played from probably Los Angeles

or whatever. And someone local is just like backselling

it. I don't think so because I've been to both

at the time here, here, here in Louisville, Kentucky,

we had a WFXT. Is it W? No. WTFX 100 .5 The Fox,

which they are now 93 .1 The Fox, and we had

105 .1 WLRS, which is now a talk station sadly.

But I have been to both of their studios and

I saw them play the stuff. So, I don't know,

it's just one of those things where... that's

why i haven't listened to radio in so long is

because if i want to listen to a song that i

absolutely love that they'll never play that's

what itunes is for well yeah well yeah you also

have itunes you have pandora spotify which we

don't have in canada but we do have the the itunes

service via that way we can listen to radio stations

around the world and i'll agree with you radio

is becoming less and less relevant which is terrible

for someone in my particular job position but

um it's still important to get artists out there

i mean it's not as big as it was in the 50s and

60s. I mean, there was a radio station in Detroit

called the Big Eight, and I can't remember what

its specific call letters were, but stations

like that were instrumental in getting big bands

out there, especially in the 60s and 70s. Because

if you got played on the Big Eight, the music

director at the time was like, I like this band.

This band does not suck. Let's play them. And

they'd be selling... at what that time would

be monumental amounts of records and it would

launch people's careers that way. It's not the

same anymore since the invention of like MySpace

and you have to credit MySpace for how music

has changed specifically in the new media decades.

That's how bands got noticed. I mean, sadly enough,

Justin Bieber got noticed on YouTube and it's

because radio isn't that relevant anymore and

it really sucks in a lot of ways. Although it's

still cool to hear bands like say Weezer or Foo

Fighters or whoever go on some of the local radio

stations like K -Rock in Los Angeles or be Edge

102 in Toronto and talk about their concert and

have, you know, kind of a sit down, but... As

far as getting new music out there, I think the

web is the way it's going to be pretty much till

now, until the end of time or until we get the

matrix in our heads. Yes. I mean, I, you know,

I know that, you know, a lot of people condemn

Wikipedia, that it's the worst thing in the world,

but it is an information source. And as long

as the information is cited, I, I will use it

as a, as an informational source. And that's

how half the time I find out about a lot of my

you know, you know, unless I, you know, obviously

I follow all my favorite bands on Twitter and

stuff like that, but that's half the time how

I find out if any of my favorite bands are putting

out new albums is like, you know, looking them

up on Wikipedia. Uh, for me and in radio, I always

wanted to work at a radio station. I didn't care

what the job was. I just wanted to be there,

to be in that atmosphere. Um, in every city I've

ever lived in. I've always, you know, whatever

radio station I got listening to and attached

to, I would always become friends with the DJs

and hang out with them and everything else. And

whereas now podcasting for me essentially is

the new radio because this, this allows me to,

to talk to fans and, and to talk on multiple

different subjects. And granted, I can't play

music in between some stuff, you know, really

not supposed to, but you know what I mean? It's

one of those things where podcasting for me is

the new radio um so yeah without any further

ado after this musical interlude we're going

to get into the topics we'll be back after this

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We have eight topics to get through tonight.

We're gonna do four and four, so it'll be a break

in between. The first one is we're each gonna

go over what we loved listening to in as far

as music in the 2000s. Now I know that we are,

you know, the 2000s are technically over because

it's now the 2010s, but I am lumping the 2010s

since we're only two years into the... the new

decade. I'm lumping it into the 2000s because

it makes no sense to do another episode just

on the first three years of a new decade. So

Mike, from 2000 to now, what have you been listening

to? Bands that I've always consistently stuck

with is Offspring, I've stuck with Green Day,

cky rise against you're noticing a pattern here

i'm guessing um i listened to a little bit of

uh anti -flag uh operation ivy rancid i'm trying

to think of other bands i'm trying i'm trying

to think of bands you might necessarily know

off the top of your head i've heard of a lot

of them okay you know i've i i i have heard a

lot of the bands that you just mentioned you

know uh cky i haven't heard of them but a lot

of the other ones i've heard about in passing

so uh I also listened to I just had it on the

tip of my tongue. It's now it's going to bug

me. I've also listened to like some of the mainstream

like I started out as a huge Nickelback supporter

with their first two albums and we'll get to

that as we get a little further in this topic

as well. I'm trying to think of other bands of

like I mean obviously I'm into a lot of the big

classic bands like ACDC Metallica although Metallica

stuff post Monster or no not Monster post Saint

Anger i think it's complete dog shit i mean i

think their best album this is gonna hate mail

might get this week in geek dot net i think their

best album was garage inc and that was a 90s

cover album although unforgiven 2 was also pretty

good though i i do say i also listened to system

of down uh stuff like that i mean i listened

to what was popular ish Another band that I like

too, and these guys, I haven't listened to their

stuff in the last couple years, but it was a

band called H .I .M. H .I .M., which I got into

them via the C .K .Y., Jackass, Bam Margera side.

In fact, that's where I'd say I got a lot of

my musical influences in the 2000s from the Tony

Hawk soundtracks, which are utterly fantastic

stuff, although recently they're garbage. Um,

but uh, yeah, that's pretty much what I was into

but i'd say the two strongest bands that stood

out for me In the 2000s or linkin park still

huge fans of them though their last two albums

i'll get to them and probably If I said that

i'd probably say rise against would probably

be my my top two bands and that i've listened

to in the 2000s for me, um nickelback, uh 2002

was a huge year for me 2002 I found theory of

a dead man I I've told this story before I don't

know if you know this but The day spider -man

came out At the time I got into a fight with

my girlfriend, and I just didn't want to be where

we were living So I went to the movie theater

saw it paid for spider -man once spent the entire

day there, saw Spider -Man five more times after

that. At the time, I loved that movie so much.

How much did that cost? Okay, you saw Spider

-Man five times in one day. I saw Spider -Man

six times in one day. I paid once, and I theater

hopped the rest of the day. I don't know whether

that's really cool or really sad. Probably a

little bit of both, but Spider -Man is what introduced

me to... Tyler Conley and his band Theory of

a Dead Man. He was playing background guitars

on Hero, which was Josie Scott and Chad Kroger's

song for Spider -Man. Theory of a Dead Man's

lead single off their debut album was Invisible

Man. You could not hear them unless you bought

the Spider -Man soundtrack because the Theory

of a Dead Man self -titled album didn't come

out till much later in 2002. Heard them, absolutely

loved them. I liked Linkin Park's first two albums.

After that, they kinda sold out to me. After

Minutes to Midnight, it's when they fell off.

I would say after Meteora. Uh, you know, I liked

certain songs from Papa Roach. Uh, you know,

you mentioned - I forgot about them. They're

fucking - Yeah, Papa Roach is great. They have

a few good songs. Um, you know, you can't talk

about the 2000s and not talk about Creed. Um,

them, let's see. Who else? Saliva. I absolutely

love Saliva. And a lot of the stuff for me, like

with Saliva specifically, it's like if Click

Click Boom or Your Disease was in a film. If

they're you know, that's how I found a lot of

the music that I liked in the 2000s is hearing

it in TV shows or Or movies that's how I found

disturbed they Stupify was on the then the WWE

series or WWF series at the time tough enough

Stupify was on the original tough enough show

So that's how I found found disturbed. I think

I found them through Dragon Ball Z actually Wow.

Yeah, because I think they were in one of the

movies because when Funimation was doing the

dubs for them, they'd show them on YTV in Canada.

And for some reason, I think I remember a Disturbed

song. I know there was some Finger 11 stuff,

but I want to say Disturbed was there too. That

and the Richard Cheese cover of Down with the

Sickness is how I found Disturbed. Awesome. Yeah

finger 11 is another one. I I absolutely I I

found them when they got to their third album

stuff like one thing when that came out Stay

in shadow other light and then ever since then

like with paralyzer and even the newer album

that came out a couple years ago life turns electric

They're just an amazing amazing band 12 Stones

was another one. Now a lot of people call them

a Christian band. I just see them as a rock band.

I actually knew the drummer at the time, Aaron

Gaynor. He was a DJ at the radio station in Mississippi

at the time. So I actually got to hang out with

them at a concert here in Louisville in 2003.

I got to hang out with them and Theory of a Dead

Man. It was actually Theory of a Dead Man, 12

Stones were opening for Three Doors Down. Both

Theory of a Dead Man and 12 Stones had autograph

signings before the show. Throw Doors Down just

went in, played, and left. They didn't even do

anything for their fans that night. So that kinda

pissed me off about them. Plus Loser was overplayed

on the radio so much. Loser and Kryptonite, oh

my god. But yeah, you know, and of course I still

listen to like Holland Oates and stuff like that

from the 80s. I wasn't really into pop in the

early 2000s at all. see some of the pop music

i really like i mean i'm not gonna lie i'm a

big fan of boy bands i think some of them had

some wonderful harmonies and just some of that

music was goddamn catchy um Although I think

it's they're starting to come back now. I mean,

we saw the beginning of the resurgence with the

Jonas Brothers, but now they're all 30 married

and who gives a shit. But there was a show on

Nickelodeon not too recently where they did a

tour with the movie and it's done tremendously

well. So I like Rush. Yeah, or something like

that. Yeah, like I'm. I don't mind boy bands.

I really don't. I started with boy bands with

new kids on the block. Same here. I had tape

for that. I remember putting that into my Teddy

Ruxpin and having him watch and go, hang in tough.

Oh, hang in tough. Oh, yeah. Totally, totally

love that shit. I also got into dance music and

some of the stuff in the 2000s. Most I mean,

most notably Deadmau5. Turns out I went to school

with Deadmau5's brother. I had no idea that the

kid I was sitting next to had his brother as

this multi -platinum selling electronic artist.

Maybe I would have been nicer to the kid. But

then again, I don't really know him, so I guess

we just didn't run in the same circles. And not

that I'm a fame slut, but it would have been

nice to have that hookup. You are nowadays. Oh,

God, yeah. Right in my famy butthole. But yeah,

I mean, I think music in certain things has really

evolved. I think in certain ways it's really

dropped. And the 2000s, if anything, the new

rock scene, it's probably the one I have the

most problems with. Now, like you, Mike, I'm

a fan of Nickelback to a point. You like everything,

I don't. And here is my theory behind that. I

think after Spider -Man, and I think after they

hit really big with How You Remind Me. Now, they

already had one album out before Spider -Man,

or sorry, they had two albums out before Spider

-Man hit. And they, and that was, I think, what

was the first album called? The Ver-, okay, the

- The Rotor? The Long Road or whatever? No, well,

no, no, no, the Long Road came afterwards. Hesher

was like the seven -track EP that they did. that

was self -produced. They had Curb, which was

also self -produced. And then where they really

hit it big was with Breathe and Leader of Men,

which was off The State. The State was their

first, quote unquote, make me famous album. I

think that's the one that I heard. right the

state and then came silver side up which has

how you remind me and all that stuff after that

came the long road and and then all the right

reasons and and dark horse and all that other

good stuff yeah i mean after i think After The

Long Road, which was their third album, I think

they really started to pander to the radio crowd.

And I think that's where a lot of new rock bands

went wrong. Because in the early 2000s, I'd say

from 2002 to 2006, that four year period, I can,

there are so many bands that came out that sounded

the exact same. Three Days Grace. I like them.

I really do. And I feel bad for saying that.

Theory of a Dead Man. Nickelback, Doutree, I

know I'm missing a few here, Puddle of Mud, but

they were around earlier than that. But they

all shared a very similar sound, and I think

that is Nickelback I think cracked the code,

very Da Vinci code -esque of, hey, this makes

us radio friendly and we can still maintain our

edge as hard fucking cool people, but we can

still sell records. Soccer moms think we're cool,

we're edgy. let's do this and the music sounded

the same and my big problem with it is I don't

like how like I said it sounds the same there

was my friend Piers in college showed me something

very funny and it was a YouTube video where they

took Nickelback and Theory of a Dead Man lyrics

and chords right and cut the and cut the tracks

up so they had them separate and you could replace

Nickelback Lyrics on top of a theory of a dead

man song and it worked and vice versa Which means

they were very similar artistically and I'm thinking

okay, that's bullshit I did not like that and

yet I'm a fan of mashups, but that's matching

beats per minute Not necessarily this in my right

and and the in the other thing that happens with

Nickelback Specifically is that there's people

that will take I think it's how you remind me

someday how you remind me will be on the left

speaker someday will be on the right speaker

and it sounds exactly the same the thing of it

is for me and and again we are gonna do art specific

artist spotlights on Nickelback and theory of

a dead man later in the in the in the music spotlight

the thing about it is is for me if the song is

catchy and I like it That's fine for me. I don't

pay so much attention to, hey, this song sounds

like this. I guess... I guess my thing is, like

I said, after going to school for radio, you

start to notice these things when you're building

a playlist. And it just bothered me how frequently

these songs were coming up. Now, going back to

how you were so sick of how you remind me, I

remember my local radio stations, even my adult

contemporary stations. So think your goddamn

John Tesh -esque music was playing this. Or basically

a lot of singles off of Silver Side Up. And then

when... And then when the Long Road came out,

I'm pretty sure Photograph was on that. I'm pretty

sure that was a single. No, Photograph was on

All The Right Reasons 2005. OK, I remember that

having the crap played out of it. Yeah, Photograph

got way overplay. Oh, my God, there was going

to be blood in the streets at some point if I

heard that song one more damn time. That and

Evanescence is my immortal, too. Oh, God, yes.

That's one song. Whenever there's a problem in

my life, guaranteed that song is playing somewhere.

Yes. For The Long Road, they had, Sunday was

a single, Figured You Out was a single, Feelin'

Way... Oh, what's the other song? God, now I

have to look it up. I think it's... I want to

say Feelin' Way Too Damn Good, but I know that's

not correct, because that's kind of like a Garth

Brooks, Feelin' Way Too Damn Good to be this

old. But yeah, I... I mean, like I said, my problem

with New Rock is it all started to sound the

same, it all started to blend together and it

seemed like the bands were more concerned about

gaining notoriety and appearing in the media

than actually practicing their craft. And like

I said, I think you could probably make arguments

against other bands that I like did the exact

same thing, though I haven't ever heard CKY on

radio outside of maybe 96 Quite Bitter Beings

and maybe their single from the Jackass 3 soundtrack

afterwards. world, but there was just something

about that. And I guess Rise Against was coming

into their own at that time. They had some radio

play, but I guess there's just these really super

popular bands I developed a thing against because

I'm like, I hear you everywhere. I don't think

you're the same. It seems to me when bands got

big in the 80s and 90s, if they did something

in the media, it meant something. Like seeing

the guys from Pearl Jam, like Eddie Vedder doing

an interview, or Kurt Cobain. I still don't much

care for his music, but I like the man. And,

you know, it seemed like it meant something.

When Chad Kroger does an interview, who gives

a shit? That's, it just, it bothers me that rock

music doesn't seem to mean the same like it used

to. And I think a lot of these new bands, and

I'm waiting for the guys from Theory of a Dead

Man to come kick my ass now. It's just, it feels

like something has changed, fundamentally changed

from the way it used to be. But then again, music

is a constantly... evolving creature, so I guess

I can't blame them for wanting to attract more

attention to themselves. I just wonder if the

music suffered. The thing about Theory of a Dead

Man specifically, and I've said this before on

Twitter and Facebook, outside of maybe three

songs, and it's not because I dislike those three

songs, it's just that I'm not, it's just songs

that I don't listen to, I can listen to their

entire catalog. Because the When I listen to

music, especially the rock music of this era,

I listen for what story is the song telling.

You can take Three of a Dead Man's Not Meant

to Be, and that's essentially about a relationship

that two people probably should have never been

in. You can take one of their new singles off

the new album out of my head, and that's essentially

about... a broken -up relationship as far as,

you know, when I was with you, I must have been

out of my head. You know, so I look for more

so the stories versus how a song really sounds.

In Theory of a Dead Man, yes, they do sound similar

to Nickelback, but I also see the differences

in them. as well. I don't know. Like I said,

I guess it comes from having my ear used to being

sitting in the booth at Niagara College and figuring

what I want to play during my shift or what was

assigned to me. But at the same time, I will

say Chad Kroger's label did discover one very

underappreciated band, Marianas Trench. I highly

recommend you check those guys out. They've got

a wonderful sound and they're Canadian, so check

them out. They do not suck. Moving on over to

new metal, I would assume that stuff like Stained

and probably Korn fit into this? Stained, yeah,

Stained would fit, System of a Down, Linkin Park.

I guess Disturbed would also fit in here as well.

There was another band I was going to mention,

but they've totally slipped off my tongue, so

I guess they weren't that important. I really

like this genre of music. I think this is what

got me into a lot more metal. Mind you, one sound

of metal I can't stand, and you can flame me

all you want for this, I fucking hate Cradle

of Filth. Any music where it sounds like the

guy is deep -throating a microphone going, that's

not music that's called vomiting you should probably

stop doing that it's going to damage the equipment

um it's just it sounds like shit now admittedly

there is some good vomit music out there because

there are some wonderfully talented guitarists

i don't i i mean there's some great speed metal

groups uh dragon force being one of them or Dream

Theater. But anyway, yeah, I really like this

genre of music. I mean, when Limp Bizkit started

doing stuff like this, I mean, I still like some

of their stuff. I legitimately liked their entire

album of the Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog

Flavored Water. I think it's the strongest album

they've ever done. Without a doubt, there are

very few songs on that album I skip. Mind you,

this was just before I think Mission Impossible

2 came out. Yes, it was. And I am actually a

fan of the version of the Mission Impossible

theme that Fred Durst did for that movie. Oh,

fuck yeah. That's a wonderful track. Simply because

of the fact that it was so different from what

Larry Mullen did with the MI1 theme because Larry

Mullen from Larry Mullen and Adam Clayton from

YouTube did the theme for the first film and

it was Take a look around was so much different

from the first film and I absolutely loved it.

Absolutely Like I'll say the first mission possible

theme. It was good. It was cool, but it wasn't

very inspired I mean, well there was the point

though. I mean it was you know, that movie was

just coming out It was reinvigorating that franchise

you had to have even though it's a very you to

ask Version you had to have still that classic

theme and that's what that portrayed Whereas

Take a Look Around basically slowed it down,

added lyrics, and was just a really, really awesome

song for that film. Yeah, I mean when Fred Durst

did that version of take a look around it's a

fun music video, too And that's our thing too.

I think the 2000s the music video industry is

pretty much dead In my opinion because MTV doesn't

play music or doesn't play music videos anymore.

At least they do it's exceptionally rare It's

all 16 and pregnant now, but anyway, um or teen

moms or teen moms who have growth on their heads

or something I don't know something stupid and

I don't know just I don't I think they took a

a nosedive after hot dog flavored water because

there's the sex scandal with fred durst honestly

he got his wang sucked who cares uh... and i'll

just the music change fred durst became as large

in life weirdo and now he's coming back i hope

the comeback tour is very successful for these

guys because i would love them to go back to

do some great music. As I said, think of them

what you will, but there are some damn catchy

tunes in there. One group that I think I started

off in the late 90s and progressed to get amazing.

And then the guy had a brain fart and I guess

he decided I want to make something else. Chester

Bennington and Linkin Park. Wonderful group.

Hybrid Theory, fantastic album. Not one song

I skipped. Meteora, fantastic album. Reanimation

took a bit of a risk, but not bad. Jay -Z and

Linkin Park, friggin' one of the best collaborations

I have ever heard. And it wasn't derivative.

And then... Minutes to Midnight came out, and

this links more specifically with the Transformers

movie, because everybody associates what I've

done with Optimus Prime. In fact, I can't hear

that song without hearing to all the Autobots,

amongst the stars, we are here, blah, blah, blah.

And Linkin Park became associated with the Transformers

franchise, which is pretty cool. But then their

music started getting more and more soft. I mean,

the first half of Minutes to Midnight is awesome.

Like, I think up the track six or seven. It's

great. After that, what? Did you put in Chester's

coffee? Yeah, really? Or did Mike Shinoda just

get left behind at a Greyhound bus stop and you

just kept going? Because I really wonder what

happened to the sound of these guys. Their new

album, Thousand Suns, is fucking terrible. Like,

Linkin Park has, I think, lost its way. Now,

like I said previously, every band has to evolve.

Every band's sound must change. And I could see

why Chester maybe doesn't want to do the screaming

rock. And I know I said earlier, I'm not a big

fan of screaming rock, but with Linkin Park,

it works. it legitimately works within it. And

when they developed their more radio -friendly

sound with Minutes to Midnight, it was okay.

I mean, you still had great songs like Bleed

It Out, which is a wonderfully fast rap, and

you have everything else, and it worked. But

the rest of the album just got soft. And when

you hear the new songs for Revenge of the Fallen

and the one for Dark of the Moon, what the hell

is this? This isn't Linkin Park. This is... If

a soccer mall was in charge of the production,

or if some new age hipster was in charge of it,

the music lost its way. And new metal... I think

more so than any other genre, or at least recently

of music, has to keep reinventing itself so it

doesn't get stale. Disturb is a wonderful example

of this. When they started covering... When they

covered the Phil Collins... Shout? Yeah, no,

Shout and the Phil Collins song... Land of Confusion.

That was fucking awesome! That's great that they

would throw back to the 80s to get some new stuff.

And the sound with them... has constantly evolved,

I think. And their last single from a couple

years ago, Into the Fire and Invincible, I think

it was, I remember playing these in Guitar Hero

and Rock Band and having just a wonderful time

playing along with them. And I think that's where

maybe I approach why I think the sound is changed.

Because when you play the music, it sounds, it

feels different than playing, say, stupefy or

something like that when you play that on the

guitar it's it feels different when you play

into the fire it feels more aggressive and i

think that's what i liked about it too um other

bands i will say about disturb that um their

2010 album asylum is an amazing amazing album

and they did a cover on that that i was not expecting

whatsoever because it starts out um It starts

off after Track 12. Track 13 is the cover. And

it starts off dead silence. And I thought, wait,

is the album over? What's going on here? And

then you hear a disturbed version of U2's I Still

Haven't Found What I'm Looking For. And it's

not what you expect about it. It's probably my

least favorite. Disturbed cover, but it's one

I still love listening to because it takes the

U2 sound and Puts the disturbed flair on it,

and it's so so awesome, but it just at first

it was like wait What what is going on here?

With their other covers absolutely love them

their sound has evolved since the sickness album

but You still hear David Draymond's, you know,

screaming. You still hear his, his tones that

he used on like Down with the Sickness and Stupify

and all that. And I love that they stay true

to that, but they can still evolve as well. And

that's what's so great about them. Yeah. Like

I said, New Metal, I think, gets a lot of praise

from me because I think they've done some wonderful

work. And I think a lot of the bands that are

still around now, they realize we have to keep

our sound moving. We have to continue to grow

as artists. And I hope these bands will be around

for many years. I'd love to see a Metallica rise

out of these guys and be around for years and

years and years. So hopefully we'll have new

Disturbed and new content from these guys and

hopefully Linkin Park will eventually find their

way again. What are you going to say? Say I guess

we should talk about pop music. Yeah, the final

topic for this part of this episode is the fact

that in the 2000s pop music essentially took

over. Not just with NSYNC and Backstreet Boys,

they were kind of on the way out. Britney Spears

was kind of still around, Christina Aguilera

is still around, but just all of the new acts

and all the Top 40 stuff that has just... Popped

into the world of music in the 2000s. It's like,

oh my god some of this stuff What the hell see

my thing is now for me to remember any pop bands

to come out now Mike Give me some examples of

pop bands for right now. Um, oh boy I mean, maybe

you could consider some of the American Idol

winners like Kelly Clarkson Kelly Clarkson The

gay kid what's his name Clay Aiken or whatever

Clay Aiken? uh there was a band late 90s early

2000 that was produced by Simon Cowell called

Westlife they're from Ireland i love them they're

they had a great first album i don't know if

they i don't have the information in front of

me i don't know if they ever made another album

after their first one um you know uh oh god i'm

trying to think what are other examples of of

pop Stuff that happened see I think you're making

my point. They all say same. It's so okay. Well,

yeah I'm just trying to I'm just trying to remember

like I know 98 degrees was still going and I

maintain to this day 98 degrees Came out and

got popular before the craze of the boy band

really hit. And I don't consider 98 Degrees a

boy band, because they have those harmonies you

were talking about earlier. They are more of

like pop soul. You know, I would call them a

boy band simply because that was one of Blair's

first concerts, was 98 Degrees, along with the

Backstreet Boys. They were the opening act. But

yeah, I mean, a lot of the pop music, I think

a lot of it, it just was catchy noise and I don't

know there's just something about a lot of it

I just don't give a shit about. I mean, it's

not something I specifically would listen to.

I mean, it came up in our radio station's playlist,

because we'd have to play some of it. I mean,

I was for 98 .1, Niagara's New Rock, you'd have

to play something that was a little bit lighter

sometimes, and some of it was okay. I mean, I

remember stuff like, I guess you wouldn't call

Muse or Feist anything like this, but just, you

know, just very... slower stuff or stuff that

you could easily play on any top 40 station or

something you could play on anything called hot

ac which is adult contemporary stuff and it's

not necessarily bad music it's just it's not

stuff the young people Really connect with but

it's stuff. That's very fluffy. I consider I

mean there was one girl I dated years ago and

She was in love with all this with a lot Excuse

me with a lot of the female pop sensations. I

can't remember who did this song. It was called

tattoo And it was like you're on my heart just

like a tattoo. I'll never forget you. I love

you. It was gay. Um And I mean that in the most

non -derogatory manner possible. I mean, it was

so overproduced, you don't care. And then there

was a musician, which has come out recently.

And I'm just going to fire this out there. I

hate Lady Gaga. OK, we'll get into that. We'll

get into that a little bit. Well, you have to

admit, she is a pop sensation. She is. And the

early music she did. I mean, she's been around

since the 90s. She did stuff at Lilith Fair and

no one cared. Dressed in a meat dress, people

will pay attention to that. Man, I should have

talked about Marilyn Manson. But then again,

hey, who remembers the last thing he did? Exactly.

Moving on. And you know, you got really popular

poppy stuff like Bad Romance and Poker Face.

And a lot of that shit is really catchy. I think

she's probably one of the more successful pop

acts that come out recently. And even when Britney

Spears came out swinging in the last couple of

years, that pop music, like I think a lot of

the big female sensations make wonderful stuff.

like wonderful poppy catchy music, but like I

said, we're gonna hit on this more later talking

about when they take a back seat to their music.

In fact, she's openly said in the last few weeks,

I'm not giving any more interviews. I want to

focus on my art. First off, thank you. I'm so

glad you shut the hell up so you can actually

make music because legitimately you are an artist.

You are talented, but I really wish it shut up.

Other pop acts I can think of off the top of

my head, people like John Mayer, Sheryl Crowe.

Michael Blubay. Blubay, yeah. I don't know if

I would call him pop, but I guess he could be

considered top 40. People like him. People might

remember this song. I think this is the only

famous song this guy ever had. A guy named Sean

Mullen said the song Lullaby. Oh, yeah, but wasn't

that late 90s, though? Yeah, late 90s, early

2000s. Edwin McCain had stuff in the 90s and

the late 90s, early 2000s. Oh, God. I guess you

could kind of say Maroon 5 and Jason Mraz. I

mean, Jason Mraz is one artist, but Maroon 5

is probably... They're not a boy band, but they're

not a rock band at the same time. They're just

a pop band, I would say. What about Coldplay?

Where would you fit them in here? Coldplay and

Yellow Cards specifically, they... kind of they're

not the same but i always heard easy rock maybe

yeah not really easy listening but maybe it's

not top 40 i would say it's overall general pop

i mean just the generality of pop music um I

mean, and that being said, Coldplay did have

some good songs. I mean, although I hate the

song Yellow with a flaming passion of a thousand

suns, but I don't mind Speed of Sound and I don't

mind some of their other stuff. I mean, all things,

I think they do get a bad rap. But if I had to

pick between listening to Maroon 5 and Coldplay,

I'd definitely go Coldplay. Maroon 5, I feel

is so soulless. See, now I have, I'm going to

have to go back. over the next couple months

and and check out stuff after the songs about

Jane album because that's all I've really ever

heard is like Harder To Breathe and Tangled and

She Will Be Loved. I've only ever heard their

very first album and Harder To Breathe that song

that got major radio airplay. Yeah, that song

was everywhere. She will be loved was everywhere.

Oh Was that the stupid song where she? Yes. Oh

god, I hated that song. Oh my god, that song

was like audio torture. Jason Mraz is an artist

that he had the remedy why I won't worry. He's

done other stuff as well. I really found, and

again, I found it through movies of all places,

I found an artist named John Gregory. He had

a song, Ride of Your Life. He was really, really

interesting, or still is. I don't know if he's

put anything else out since then. Again, I'm

not reading any information or anything like

that, but I prefer at this point, as I said before,

bands that I've been listening to for 10 plus

years. I'm not into the pop scene anymore whatsoever,

unless it's like 80s pop or 90s pop. but it's

just taken over and as Mike said we're going

to get into Bitch burr and gag me later. So You

have anything else to say before we go to another

musical interlude? I don't think the music the

the pop music of the 2000s is necessarily bad

I'm just saying I don't think it has the heart

that the 90s and and and the 80s had I think

then it was more about artistic expression But

then again, somebody said this to me on Twitter

this past week everybody from every generation

always says the music from theirs was the best.

And I wonder if I'm looking at this through rose

colored glasses, because there might be some

legitimately really good pop acts out there.

I mean, I don't mind some Michael Buble stuff.

I don't mind necessarily some of the Lady Gaga

stuff. And sadly, Justin Bieber's got some catchy

shit. It's just. I think I view artists in the

80s as trying a little bit harder. And I guess

maybe I enjoy the synth sound a little bit more

than I do the overproduced sound of now. So that's

what I say. I don't think music today necessarily

sucks, but it feels like something's been sucked

out of it. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, you

take someone like our friend David double D Dennis,

who grew up in the nineties and he absolutely

loves sixties and seventies music. So yeah, it

wasn't even decades he was born in. So yeah,

like Dave is my go to guy for if I want to learn

more about music or a sound, I taught to him

or I talked to Pierce. Yeah. So we're going to

take a quick musical interlude and then we're

going to come back with the rest of the show.

We'll be back after this. on GeekCastRadio's

music spotlight for the 2000s. Now, the next

four topics are going to be very controversial.

We are probably going to say stuff that people

are not going to agree with. You can either comment

on the GeekCastRadio website. You can send hate

mail to mike at thisweekengeek .net or tfg1mikeatgmail

.com. Or if you want to, you can send me anthrax

if you really disagree. I don't think it would

make it over the Canadian border, but then again

the Canadian border is so lax to let anybody

in up there. They confiscated my laser! That

sounds so wrong. Okay, the first thing that we're

gonna tackle is the rise of the music reality

TV show. Now... I only ever really paid attention

to and watched the very first season of American

Idol because number one, Kelly Clarkson is hot

and she had a great voice. She still has a great

voice. And she's still hot. And she is. Since

then, I've found artists that have come out of

American Idol that I like, like Daughtry, like

Carrie Underwood. I'm sure there are others,

I just can't think of them off the top of my

head, but I absolutely cannot stand American

Idol. Essentially, if new acts want to get discovered,

you don't hit the pavement anymore trying to

get an agent or trying to, uh, you know... Actually

go through it the old -fashioned way of getting

into the music business you find American Idol

you if you're or you'll get on the show or alternatively

you pull a Rebecca black Spend a little bit of

money and you get famous on YouTube whether you're

talented or not. Oh my god There are so many

ways to get discovered now. You can probably

produce yourself. I mean, all you really need

is a really high -end studio and a little bit

of luck. But we'll talk about getting discovered

a little bit later on. But yeah, I mean, American

Idol, that's a show I'm surprised that's still

going, because I think there's a superior version

of it. The Voice. The Voice. I found The Voice

this year. Same here. It's in its second season.

I did not watch it last year. I absolutely love

The Voice. It's a damn good show, and I'm surprised

I have so many good celebrity judges, although

I think CeeLo's the fucking bomb. Love that guy.

Big fat, big fat black guy with a white cat.

That's if that's what I want to be when I grow

up. Yeah, the show finds better talent than American

Idol, and it gives them, I think, more freedom

to express what they can do best. Plus, they're

not assholes like Simon Cowell. I think American

Idol was built on the back of being a dick. Well,

exactly. I mean, you know, in the first year,

essentially, Ryan Seacrest was the better host

and Brian Dunkleman faded into obscurity. There

was another host before Seacrest? the first year

It was Seacrest and it was two hosts Seacrest

and Brian Dunkleman, and I had no fucking clue

I don't think so, but You know after the first

year Brian Dunkleman essentially just faded into

obscurity And the thing of it is though, Seacrest

and all this American Idol stuff, when Simon

was still on the show, I've always hated Simon

Cowell. I just can't stand that guy. I'm sure

he's an absolutely nice, maybe not nice guy,

but I'm sure he knows what the hell he's doing

as far as being able to find talent. The problem

I have with American Idol with their long audition

process, as far as like going to all these cities

and showing every single bad audition is... Bad

auditions get popularity like Oh, what's his

name? Oh? God William hung with she bangs and

all that you know the Ricky Martin shit and all

that stuff And it's like really and and the thing

with the voice is I'm sure they see Bad auditions,

but they don't show them on television. They

they are much more cordial to the people that

they essentially reject. And it's about finding

a voice. Now, while I don't agree with a lot

of their choices sometimes, as far as winners

and stuff for battle rounds, but it's just a

much more laid back, drama -free show. And essentially,

it basically brought Carson Daly back into the

limelight. Because after TRL, And Leia last call

with cart TRL essentially launched Carson Daly's

career and then he went to last call with Carson

Lord Larson Jesus Christ No, Liam's not here.

Um And the fact that he got the bang terror read

Yeah, that's why he's famous to me There is that

too. But essentially he's a more toned down host

in that and he's more supportive than Seacrest

is. He's not an asshole. Exactly. I mean, I think

that's the big thing when you go into these music

competition mean you're putting yourself right

out on stage Yeah, and you're fighting for what

may be a life -changing opportunity. You don't

need some guy going. Well, I think you suck I

think you should go back to karaoke bars. In

fact, you should never sing again. In fact, here's

a gun kill yourself I got one bullet in there.

So make sure you can't fuck that up That's what

cowl is to me as entertaining as assholes may

be I can imagine some people walking away with

some small psychological issues. Um, so I'd much

rather have Carson Davis say, you know what?

You didn't win, but Hey, keep on fighting for

your dream. I think that's exactly. And that's

the point of the voice because even the people

that they've sent home or the people that they've

turned away in the beginning, they said, Hey,

you know, you have a great sound. It's a little

pitchy, but you can work on it and whatever else.

What I have found. really strange was the battle

between uh... railing and uh... all god what's

uh... at least on for a at least on uh... at

least don't actually has already had music i

actually search on itunes she already had music

out before she was on the voice so i think the

thing with the voices uh... for specifically

like germaine paul he was a a background dancer

or backup singer to Alicia Keys. They're not

necessarily trying to find brand new talent.

They're trying to find the one voice, the one

person that they can market versus American Idol

is, let's find a bunch of new talent. Yeah. And

I don't disagree with you there. Now, there have

been some other musically based shows that I

think are pretty kick -ass. I mean, America's

Got Talent, well, not always singing. Yes, just

have some pretty cool stuff. I love there used

to be I don't think it's around anymore I don't

know America's next great dance crew or some

shit like that I don't think that's still around

that show was fucking awesome, though You saw

people that were basically ninjas jumping around

the cool music. Um, that was neat I really thought

I think of other musical reality shows. There

is the sing -off. NBC had the sing -off at one

point, I think. Never heard of it. I've heard

of it only because Optimus Solo had watched it

and mentioned it to me. I never watched it. NBC's

new thing is essentially trying to compete with

Fox's Glee, which is Smash. Yeah, no, that's

another show. I'm surprised it's so well. Glee,

although Glee in its first season was magic.

Glee in its second season? Not so much. Glee

in its third season? I'm the man behind the curtain.

Here's some drama. It's kind of lame now. I mean,

all the heart's been ripped out of that show.

But I thank Glee for reinvigorating people's

interest in performing. I mean, it wasn't just

American Idol causing people to go up and get

these things. And I guess you could kind of tie

this into it as well. The rise of music video

games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band. I mean, Guitar

Hero first came out in 2004, I think, maybe 2005.

And then it got really popular when Rock Band...

hit that winter where you could play all four

instruments and sing along and everything. And

it was better than karaoke revolution, which

it's voice detection algorithms. Me and Pierce

beat that game on expert just by humming. Yeah,

it was retarded and then I spent a lot of money.

I really regret now I'm buying karaoke revolution

tracks because you look at rock band got real

licensed music But yeah, I mean I think a lot

of these things for people coming out and learning

how to sing I mean I love singing now when I

get a chance whenever I play rock band Because

I used like one year. I spent eight hundred dollars

on DLC. Don't regret a cent of it Well, except

for the grateful dead pack. I don't play that

It's not my type of music But yeah, I mean, so

many cool things have come out to get people

interested in the music industry again, thinking,

hey, man, if you try, you can do this too. And

I think that's the wonderful thing about music

coming out so much larger than life. Now, like

I said, you can blame Glee for terrible TV tropes

now, but you have to admit it did start some

really good stuff in other ways. Yeah. I, you

know, just kind of. going full circle back around

to American Idol I don't watch the show but I

like that they've gotten two additional judges

that are just as well as Paula Abdul was you

know you've got Steven Tyler and Jennifer Lopez

in there with Randy Jackson so that's kind of

awesome that they actually have Other, like,

essentially Randy Jackson, Paula, not Paula,

Randy Jackson, Jennifer Lopez, and Steven Tyler

are all performers. Uh, Randy Jackson had a few

times played with Journey. Well, you knew Paula

Gould was a singer, right? Right, no, no, of

course I knew that. I knew that, yes. But, I

mean, it's one of those things where Simon Cowell

is a music producer. He's not a performer. And

I prefer my judges. to be on the performance

side. Yes, the production crew can have an ear

for, you know, good sound, bad sound, horrible

William Hung version sound and all that, but...

I just prefer the judges to be the actual performers

versus the production people. I don't mind having

three performers and one person from the production

side. That makes sense to me, as long as they're

a well -respected producer who's done larger

things than some fucking boy band I've never

heard of. I'd much rather them get, you know,

someone who's produced, hey, here's a guy who

produced Michael Jackson. Here's a guy... who

produced, I don't know, Aerosmith or something.

You know, people who know how to get the sound

out of their musicians. I don't know. But then

again, at the same time, having a boring, bespectacled

white guy isn't gonna bring in viewers. Having

a crass British asshole is gonna bring someone

in. Man, they should get Gordon Ramsay from Hell's

Kitchen for no other reason than the fact that

he could tear people down. Oh God. I think that

was, but again, I think that's where the voice

excels over American Idol because there's a way

to essentially give constructive criticism versus

downright insulting people. And that's one of

the reasons why I hated Simon Cowell on American

Idol was because he downright insulted people.

And that's just not right. I mean, if you're

bad, tell them you're bad don't just sit there

and say I would rather listen to a goat hum or

you know whatever the hell Simon would say um

and essentially when Simon was still on there

American Idol to me was soap opera with with

musical competition in the background because

you had all the drama between Simon, Paula and

Ryan and all all that bullshit that just doesn't

need to be in a singing competition television

show But anyway, before we get to the next topic,

I want to give out a disclaimer here. We at This

Week in Geek and Geekcast Radio, as this is a

Geekcast Radio show, fully support anyone's cause.

However, this next topic might be a little controversial

where it's music taking a backseat to charity

and causes. We absolutely love the fact that

anyone has charities for any organizations that

are legitimate, but this is one of those topics

that I think you wanted to bring this up where

the music is essentially people are becoming

artists to promote their causes and charities

versus actually performing music. Yeah, I mean,

there are some artists that have done some wonderful

work and still do performing like System of a

Down, Rise Against, Anti -Flag. A lot of the

punk bands do great work. I mean, Rise Against

does wicked work for PETA. Think of them what

you will, but at least the band does some cool

stuff. The people I've got a main problem with

is Lady Gaga. And let me set the record straight.

What she's done for the gay, lesbian and transgendered

community. is beyond words. The fact that she's

gotten the attention of Oprah and all these other

big organizations to help gay kids that are bullied,

to help them fit in, or to do whatever they need

to to survive. Basically, I think we are becoming

a more tolerant world bit by bit, and artists

like Lady Gaga helps, because she does have the

star power of basically a supernova. She can

say, hey, everybody tomorrow, I want you to go

to Walmart and buy Pop Tarts, and people would

do it. But the problem I have is, and she's now

done what I didn't think she was going to do.

She's like, OK, guys, I'm not giving any more

interviews. Here's my music. Cool. See you later.

That's awesome. My problem is for the last two

years, she was friggin everywhere. And it just

seemed like the music was taking a backseat.

I'm pretty sure there were a couple of singles

released, but that's the thing. I'm not sure.

And with an artist that big, I should know this.

It should just become common knowledge. And that's

how much media personalities and musicians have.

Have penetrated the popular culture even me who's

not very involved in the music industry or at

least am in a very fringe way Um, I should know

these things. It should just be automatic like

oh, yeah poker face and bad romance Those are

the only two songs I can name Off the top of

my head and I'm pretty sure that was from the

first album I know she did something for her

new album But I couldn't name one track of it

and it just because I know I see her talking

to me on everything like Twitter Oprah CNN, whatever.

Hey, I'm wearing a meat dress or you know It

was more about the antics and the public relations

image than anything else now I can't give this

kid crap necessarily, because he's probably not

managing his own career. Justin Bieber. Hold

on one second, because I got to say something

about Lady Gaga. In preparation for this episode,

I was not going to buy any of her music, but

iTunes, along with a bunch of other websites

and stuff, allows you to hear samples. So. Before

the show, I just listened to iTunes previews

of six Lady Gaga songs for tonight. Paparazzi,

Just Dance, You and I, Poker Face, and Edge of

Glory. Just Dance is really catchy, I'll say

that. Yeah. My brain is now broken. Lady Gaga

is a quote unquote artist that crosses between

pop, auto -tune, out the ass, and country. What

the hell is the music industry coming to? Who

the hell are you getting the country from? This

is news to me. You and I, if you go to iTunes

and see You and I, it sounds like a very country

song to me. There is one thing she did, and I

think it was for DJ Hero 2. I think there's a

Deadmau5 remix of Just Dance, and I think it's

pretty badass if I remember it correctly. She

also released songs for Rock Band, and there's

a Weird Al of cover of is that a born this way

it's called perform this way that was pretty

funny which is pretty funny but i i i i think

i think i was more mad at gaga just because she

went to twitter and just wouldn't shut the hell

off and i had all these friends i mean i've got

a friend of mine she's a pretty big family gaga

and just it would not stop gaga this gaga that

god god could have committed the atrocities of

the nazis and people would have forgiven her

And that's what pissed me off like this is a

person you you guys realize people can have faults,

right? Um, and it just it bothered me and like

I was saying About Bieber. I don't blame this

kid because he's just that he's a kid. He's not

managing his own career yet that I'm aware He

probably has some input into it, but I I've heard

some of his music. In fact, ask my Mike Laidman

sometime how much he enjoys Justin Bieber. You'll

get an interesting story there. And I just this

kid, he's not 20 yet. He has a life story. And

I can't remember what the hell it was called.

Hold on. Maybe my wife knows Blair. What was

the name of the Justin Bieber movie? Oh, never

again. Never say never. Right. Never. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Never say never. Kid I'm pretty sure You've

okay. All right. Let me back this train up a

few a few kilometers This kid has probably done

more than I'm going to do in my life simply because

he's been around the world He's had hundreds

of thousands of girls throwing themselves at

him lucky son of a bitch, um, and I just when

sometimes when you hear him talk in the media

What the fuck are you talking about? Like, there

was one thing, I can't remember specifically

what it was, but I remember what it was about.

It was talking about rape. Why in the hell am

I listening to a 17 -year -old kid, who I'm pretty

sure has never been raped, or has been associated

with someone who has been raped, talking about

rape? It's like Lady Gaga trying to tell me why

Call of Duty is not a first -person shooter.

You see what I'm talking about here? Like, okay,

that's awesome. You may have a you may have a

knowledge of the subject. I'm willing to believe

that, but I'm also willing to believe his PR

person took a walk to the bathroom and they put

a microphone in front of this kid and he just

spews nonsense. This kid is not a good interview.

No, I think the one thing I picked up on in one

of his interviews was he said something about

the Nazis. Right. He said something about Germany.

Yeah, there was something really stupid. He said

I'm thinking why would you publish that? Why

would you say that? The sad thing about Bieber

is how the hell did he land Selena Gomez? Well,

you know, it seems to be when you're hot in Hollywood,

you automatically land with someone hot. I mean,

look at this way, Mike, if you and I were both

single. Well, you're single. The odds of us landing

someone pretty it's possible. But if we were

in Hollywood. It's almost guaranteed. And I mean,

look at the amount of I mean, I'm pretty sure

Jonah Hill has laid some pretty hot, pretty hot

girls or someone like Seth Rogen has bedded some

pretty some pretty hot women. So and these are

not Hollywood's A -list. These are not your George

Clooney's. These are not your Brad Pitt's. Yeah.

They're your average looking schlubs. Yeah. The

thing about Bieber, though, is like, OK, like

the boy bands from the 90s and early 2000s. I

get that. I understand that. You know, New Kids

on the Block. Each one of those five guys has

broken off and done his own thing with his own

career. Same thing with Backstreet Boys and NSYNC

and all that. 90 Degrees. The thing with the

solo artists that are popping up, like Lady Gaga

and Justin Bieber, it's like... Why? Kesha is

a perfect example. Kesha with Auto -Tune sounds

good. Kesha without autotune, the bitch can't

sing to save her life. Oh, absolutely not. Yeah,

she's terrible. I mean, Gaga and Bieber are legitimately

talented. And then you could go back further

back and say Justin Timberlake, fantastically

talented and oddly enough, a really good actor.

You know, great, great people there. I mean,

even Britney Spears, another wonderful singer,

even without autotune, she can legitimately sing.

Yeah. Kesha in my family. I'm not even kidding.

My sister -in -law calls her a cum dumpster.

my sister -in -law and it blows my mind to think

that somehow this girl got a career and then

the sex pics showed up of her and refer to my

last statement, I was vindicated. It's true.

It's sad, sad, but true. Just Google that shit.

But she is a no talent artist and I've not heard

any one interview out of her where she sounds

coherent enough to form a sentence. terrible,

terrible people. Now, there are some good artists

out there that give interviews, but the music

takes a bit of a backseat. U2, for example. Bono.

He does, I'm pretty sure he's involved in every

charity known to man. If you start a charity,

if you are a blip on someone's radar, oh man,

let's give this bloke a million dollars. Why?

Because I'm Bono. I'm pretty sure there was an

episode of South Park that spoofed this. So that

should tell you about how popular this guy is

but also how it's good he does in the world,

too But my main problem with a lot of artists

is I want I Understand you have a voice you have

an opinion that matters you have the eyes of

the world upon you constantly Yeah, you should

have some social responsibility. Yeah, you should

encourage people to give donate volunteer the

time whatever But I also feel as an artist, you

should be contributing. If you want to take some

time off to work on your chair, to go on your

sabbatical, go do it. If you think you can manage

both at once like Bono does, do it. I think if

you take too much time from your press tours

and you're constantly giving interviews, but

not in the studio, maybe it's time for you to

take a step back. And I don't think that's an

insulting thing to say, because like I said,

people like Gaga did some wonderful work. There's

been some real strides made between her, Perez

Hilton, and other big gay celebrities or bisexual

or whatever to help the gay and lesbian and transgender

communities. But take a step back. If you want

to go work on that, go do it. People will still

listen to your music anyway. What I'm saying

is have a focus. Pick one. You can do both, but

one I think inevitably will suffer. Yeah. Now

people might have noticed that I've listened

to the rest of the episodes that we've already

published here on the music spotlight We haven't

focused on rap or country as much I am not really

a closet country fan But I like a lot of the

country from the 90s like Garth Brooks Reba McIntyre

all that stuff country today, I just there are

certain songs here and there for like from Carrie

Underwood and There's a couple of Miranda Lambert

songs that I like but I don't really listen to

it rap it rap and hip -hop specifically have

to be if it's something in a film that fits the

film that I like the song that's how I like it

I I'm a white kid from Massachusetts I'm not

into rap you know I'm a native kid from northern

Ontario yeah I mean rap I think a lot of the

new rap, some of it's fantastic. Like I'm a big

fan of the nerd course team, but I'll talk about

that in a minute. I think some of the big artists

have lost their, but you also see a lot of these

rappers that just rap for no reason. And the

ones I can think of off the top of my head, I

don't know if this is still relevant now because

I haven't listened to them in a number of years.

Fat Joe, Chameleon Air, 50 Cent Got Better. As

time went on, actually, but although admittedly

some of his track going to take it to the candy

shop, he just, he just sounds so, he sounds so

bored. Um, I think with, I think with 50 cent

and with Eminem, those two specifically in the

beginning of their career, they wanted to do

the radio friendly thing, like real slim shady

and without me and all that stuff that Eminem

had in the beginning. And yet Eminem can do a

song like Stan and have it really. means something

and matter and then later in his career as he's

progressed he is more so gone away from the real

Slim Shady type of rap and has actually done

music that means something for the rap genre

instead of just doing, you know, the real Slim

Shady, please stand up, please, you know, instead

of doing that. Yeah, I think his career he's

a wonderful guy who can reinvent himself anytime

he wants He's one of the few artists where he's

like, you know, I think my sound sucks i'm gonna

change that um, and then when he did a Collaboration

with a group that he funded or I think founded

or at least worked with d12 d12 They're they're

actually pretty good. I really like them. Although

I don't know whether they're also alive now I

think one of them's in jail, but I don't know

um m &m Think in the 90s. He was the most relevant

that he's ever been in the 2000s It was up and

down and I haven't heard anything out of him

that I really care I remember he did a song a

couple years ago that had triumph the comedy

dog in it It was called back that ass up or something

stupid like that. And I'm thinking wow, this

is the same guy who did Stan uh hailey's song

he's done some really soulful stuff he's a really

talented artist he really needs to do more stuff

and i hear these raps and there's a wonderful

line out out of i think it's the marshall matters

ep and he does all these little skits with this

producer and he's like marshall i can't sell

this fucking record and he's like why because

you're rapping about raping bitches grandmothers

and vicodin i want you rapping about blunt 40s

and bitches And that's what a lot of the rap

was, I felt, in the 2000s. A lot of it. Like

I said, if you go back and listen to some of

these people, it's just them flashing money or

showing chicks tits and asses. The music is terrible.

But, there's a bright side to this. I discovered,

by my great friend Justin Ecock, love this kid,

he took me to this wonderful gathering of nerds.

67 ,000 of us the first year. There's something

called PAX East and I'm like, what is PAX? Well,

Mike, do you like Penny Arcade? Why yes, I enjoy

the exploits of the fruit fucker. I think I should

go to this. Why? I don't want to do homework

this weekend. I'll go with you to Boston. So

I go to Boston and he introduces me to this wonderful

man named MC Frontalot. Now, here's the weird

thing, Mike. I had MC Frontalot CDs for two years.

I don't remember how I got them. So I go. I hear

this music. I'm enraptured. I'm enthralled. It's

nerdy rap. And nerdy rap has been around for

a long time. You got Optimus Rhyme, MC Hawking,

which is a novelty act, but still pretty good.

And all these other people that have been around

for years. We go, well, what the fuck is this?

And I find out there's a documentary called Nerdcore

Rising, which follows the exploits of MC Frontalot.

And this nerdy hip hop, oh my God. It is such

a powerful and nerdy sub -genre of music. And

then there's this other guy I met last year.

I interviewed him on Twig. His name is Rahim

Jarbo. He's a teacher. He's a musician. He's

a rapper. He's a hero. He's otherwise known as

Mega -Random, though now he's known as Random

because he wants to get away from the Mega -Man

rapper persona. But this guy... can freestyle

like no one I've ever met. I was at a concert

of his last year. I held up a picture of the

Ninja Turtles. He went off on a minute rant about

the Ninja Turtles in the middle of a song at

a concert. And I was like, holy shit, let's try

something else. I showed him a picture of Salt

the Hedgehog. He keeps going. And it was amazing.

He just kept going with it. And he is one of

the most powerful hardest -working men I've met

in the nerd core rap industry and I've met a

few of them like Adam Warrock MC Lars, you know

beefy Schaefer T Dark Lord a lot of people and

just Raheem at Megaran random does so much powerful

work that I think that's where the hip -hop genre

needs to go back to the roots Talking about the

hard light inspiring me basically the street

poetry If you will not just look at me. I got

money. Hey, look at me. I get the fuck this bitch

Hey, you know what you got to pay taxes. I don't

No, music should be more than just bragging about

your accomplishments. With these guys, there's

a track, and Mike, I want you to link this in

the show notes. It's from Mega Man's Versus Tour.

This guy's on tour as of right now, visiting

X amount of cities across this great land of

ours, and he does a song called Awakening, and

it samples something from Mega Man X2, or sorry,

Mega Man Zero 2, which is the Mega Man series

featuring Zero, and there's this one line that

totally... If more rappers could do this, I think

it would transform the genre of music immensely.

And the lines are, it seems the way to blow up

is to imitate. I want to innovate and stimulate

minds, travel the universe and penetrate time.

It hurts when your worth is defined by your purchase,

even worth when it's walking this earth without

a purpose. That is something I'm very heavily

considering getting tattooed on me somewhere.

because that's a way that I think hip hop and

music in general should be. You should want to

innovate, to stimulate, to travel and to literally

be timeless. Yeah, and I agree to a certain extent.

What could you disagree with? No, I'm saying

like the direction for rap music. I agree with

what you're saying to a certain extent, but for

me, I'm just not. a listener of rap music. Now

there are some nerd bands like Guys Night and

what was the one, what's the band that does the

Dark Knight one? That's the same band. Although

it was a side project called Holy Light of Demons,

which eventually was renamed to something else,

and I can't remember what it was. But yeah, these

guys, wonderful novelty band. I'm sad they're

not making music anymore. If you want other nerdy

bands, Mike, I highly recommend you check out

a band called Kirby Crackle. They are awesome.

Another band, I Fight Dragons. is another good

band out of Chicago, I think. I'm trying to think

of other, I'm just, you know, I'm just gonna

look out at my iTunes playlist. Give me a second.

Animana Gucci, wonderful chiptune band. I never

thought anyone could make music with a Nintendo.

They did part of the, or sorry, they did the

soundtrack for the Scott Pilgrim versus the World

video game, which came out by Ubisoft last year,

or sorry, two years ago now. Wonderful game.

And there are so many talented nerdy artists

out there. I mean, another band that I support

is Arm Cannon. One comes out of Nashville. Mike,

how far are you from Nashville? About three hours,

maybe. You like Mega Man, right? Yeah, you're

gonna mention the Proto Men, aren't you? Yes.

This is a band that no one, I think, expected

to be as successful as they were. Even they didn't

expect it. Yeah. And they are a Mega Man rock

opera. And if you can see both acts back to back,

it is one of the most powerful musical experiences

you will ever do in your life. I mean, it's like

seeing... any of the concept albums by any of

your popular artists. I mean, think Rush's 2112,

I think it is, their concept album, or Tommy,

the pinball wizard shit like that. It's a musical

journey, and it's partially a stage show as well.

And they also do... covers of 80s songs. They

actually did an entire album of, I think, Queen

songs. And to hear the guy known as Panther wail

at Freddie Mercury, it's fucking eerie how good

he sounds. Now, the thing that moved me almost

to tears, I guess I have a vagina, I keep it

in my pocket. They did a cover of Journey's Separate

Ways, which recently got really popular because

of Tron Legacy. And to hear just this sound,

just fill a room. It is an auditory orgasm. The

Proto Men are some of the most talented musicians

I've met, and they're all classically trained

in various disciplines. And I think that's the

really cool thing that they can collaborate and

create something cool like this. Other off kilter

bands, I'm only going to mention one or two more.

There's another guy. You should check out he

is a chiptune DJ, but his name is DJ cut man.

His stuff is pretty awesome He just put out an

album with a guy called spam Tron and it's based

on the legend of Zelda 2 which is pretty kick

-ass Another person to mention is Adam Warrock.

He's another guy who does a nerdy rap. He just

did a bunch of shit for Mass Effect actually,

which is pretty awesome. Crush 40 does music

for Sonic the Hedgehog. They're pretty cool,

although I don't know whether they ever perform.

And lastly, and I just talked about this with

Steve Megatron Phillips on Future Imperfect very

briefly. Warp 11. It's a Star Trek band, a Star

Trek punk band with songs like Jerk My Kirk and

Suck My Spock. I tried listening to that. You

got to pick the right songs to start or you're

not going to be a fan. That's the problem with

them. You got to start. You got to take baby

steps. Like everything I do, I do with Captain

Kirk. It's, I think, a pretty good step or jerk

my Kirk. The one that the one that I want to

mention is a band that came up a number of years

ago, I think, 2008, 2009. might have been 2010

Rock Sugar oh yeah I remember that ucking amazing

okay everybody remembers yeah everybody remembers

Wacko Warner right from Animaniacs okay everyone

who has gone to see the Transformers movies and

has heard Ironhide Jess Harnell, the voice of

Wacko Warner from Animaniacs, is the lead singer

in Rock Sugar. It's also done with his buddy

Chuck Duran and a bunch of other people. I think

it's them two and three other people. I forget

their names off the top of my head. I'm not looking

at their info. The whole idea of it is they take

the 80s metal like Metallica. They take the melodies

of that. and they put it up against 80s pop lyrics

like Journey's Don't Stop Believing. So you get

Don't Stop the Sandman. You sing the Journey

lyrics to the Metallica instrumental. Actually,

you know what? That brings up an entirely different

sub -genre, and I'll just mention this very,

very, very fast. Mashups. Yeah, this is something

the 2000s. Holy shit. I'm so glad you gave it

to us Although not the first time I the first

collaboration I can think of was run DMC and

Aerosmith um, but There are wonderful artists

out there and you need to Google this fucker

right now aggro one He has done some phenomenal

mashup work. You also need to check out DJ Earworm,

is I think the guy that always puts together

the year in pop, and he mashes up every popular

song from the last year into one continuous track.

Another guy that I really enjoy, especially if

you live in the San Francisco area, or he also

does parties in LA, Party Ben, partyben .com.

He does one song that'll appeal to all you nerds,

Galvanize the Empire, the Imperial March by John

Williams. and galvanized by the Chemical Brothers.

Oh, wow. Holy shit. This music will blow girls

clothes off. That's how awesome it is. Like,

seriously, partyben .com phenomena. He also releases

CDs called Booty, and they're just the mixes

that he performs at the club every weekend. And

they are so inspired. They are fantastic. Mashups

is a wonderful subgenre of music. Hell, DJ Hero

is an entire game dedicated to this. Yeah, go

check it out and also go check out Deadmau5,

also another phenomenal artist. He does some

wonderful work. In fact, he actually just spoke

out about collaborations of all things he was

talking about. I think you can find that article

on like CBC or something, maybe McLean's, I don't

know. Just Google Deadmau5 interview collaborations.

I'm pretty sure it'll be one of the top search

results. But mashups, like I said, wonderful

thing. It's something you guys should check out.

You'd be surprised some of the weird things.

I mean, I know there's an article or there's

There's a mashup between Eric Clapton's Layla,

or sorry, Cocaine, and I think the Chemical Brothers.

Or there's one with, oh, there's one with, I

think it's Blue Oyster Cult's Godzilla, and that

song Milkshake by Kelis. Oh my God. And it's

really friggin' awesome. Like I said go look

up aggro one. He's one of the best guys I don't

think he's doing them anymore, but if you can

find an archive of his stuff seriously boss Awesome.

All right in the final category is favorite artists

overall for the 2000s stuff that we still listen

to now for me Nickelback theory of a dead man

12 stones default saliva seven dust Seven dust

Seven Dust amazes me because they are, I wouldn't

expect a rock voice like La John's to come out

of a black guy. I don't mean to be racist like

that. I'm not trying to be racist when I say

that, but it's just one of those things where

you think of voices like his and voices like

Aaron Lewis's. You think of hard rock and white

guys. And he has an amazing, amazing voice. God

smack, disturbed. Just great, great stuff. You

know, Seven Dust is still putting stuff out.

Obviously Nickelback is and everything else.

What about you? What are some of the... One of

the bands that I will follow until they eventually

decide we're going to break up. is C -K -Y, and

that's Camp Kill Yourself. These guys spawned

from band manager's brother Jess, actually, and

the band line is constantly changing. It's always...

I can't remember. I can't remember the lead singer's

name right now. It's gonna drive me crazy. But

anyway, they've constantly changed bass players,

which really sucks. But anyway, they've had several

albums, and their latest album... What the hell,

it's not Carver City. It's gonna... No, maybe

it was Carver City. I don't know. Either way,

these guys, their sound really sucked when they

were on Roadrunner Records, which they're finally...

released from that contract. They're now under

somebody else. And that, I think, was one of

their weakest albums. One of the albums they

did, I think it was for Interscope, I think,

I don't know, was an album called Infiltrate

Destroy Rebuild. And Mike, I seriously want you

to, you know, I may put this... Make this available

to you. Maybe I'll purchase it for you via iTunes.

It is one of the best rock albums I've heard

in so long because it's so much fun and all the

music is just it's really fun guitar people having

fun That's the way rock music should be to me.

It should be fun It should be rebellious and

it should make you just feel good about yourself.

What's the name of the band again? CKY And another

band I listened to, and I love this, I think

their best album was 2006, maybe 2007 called

The Suffer and the Witness, Rise Against. I love

so many singles off this. In fact, the entire

album is solid. I don't skip a track when I listen

to this album. Rise Against, they've done so

much good work. and just they're nice guys. It

was also the first concert I went to when I got

a concussion. It was awesome. Someone jumped

on my head. I'm lucky I'm not dead. that rhymed

um yes carver city was the last album they put

out in 2009 solid solid album i can't wait to

see what cky puts out next last year they put

out uh the b -sides and rarities in 2011 which

actually has the single from jackass three uh

during the credits they play a song called after

world and it's so much fun i love cky um another

band that i listen to still currently mainstream

band is um off spring they've remained remarkably

consistent over the years though there was a

time there was a girl I dated years ago named

Tasha and she told me the band sold out and I

would agree some of the music became a little

radio friendly but it it didn't affect the message

I found and that was the Americana album but

they put out an album a couple of years ago and

it got a lot of radio play but there were so

many good songs like Christy are you doing okay

Hammerhead you're gonna go far kid Great band.

Still glad they're still around making music.

I will love them forever. Bands that are not

mainstream. MC Frontlot's latest album, Solved.

Pretty solid album. They actually collaborated

with a band you might have heard of, Mike, named

Weedus. Do you remember them? No. Have you ever

heard of a song called Teenage Dirtbag? No. You

should check that out. It's actually a really

fun song. So go look it up on YouTube, Teenage

Dirtbag. But he's also collaborated with so many

different artists. He always collaborates with

comedians for his album. I think the funniest

is where he collaborates with Eugene Merman.

Also listen. To Megaran, AK Random, Arm Cannon

is another big one that I listen to. Proto Men.

Oh, the Proto Men, of course. Actually, that's

one of the only bands I listen to. They're Disography.

They only have technically three albums. There's

Act One, Act Two, and The Makeup, and Vanity

Set. I'll listen to that through once a week,

guaranteed. Kirby Crackle. Go look up the song

Ring Capacity. If you're a fan of the Green Lantern,

it's awesome. But yeah, that's what I listen

to a lot, and I think they're all awesome. All

these guys have websites. Go check them out.

And like I said, I really recommend you check

out CKY Mike, especially Infiltrate, Destroy,

Rebuild. If I was going to start you on one album,

that would be it. okay the last two that i want

to bring up that i didn't bring up earlier is

um incubus incubus does oh yeah amazing amazing

music i first found them on the Make Yourself

album with Stellar and Pardon Me and all that

stuff. I love a lot of the songs off that album.

The Morning View album has a lot of great songs.

After that, it's kind of hit or miss. I kind

of gravitated towards different singles and stuff.

The Light Grenades album has a great song on

there called Dig. Absolutely love that song.

They have... Now, in the 80s, as a kid growing

up in the 80s, most of... My 80s music was, you

know, what everybody listened to. Journey, Aerosmith,

ACDC, Hall & Oates, all that stuff. But I also

did, and I blame Tim Burton and Batman, I also

did listen to Prince. Off of their Monuments

to Melodies album, Incubus has a cover of Let's

Go Crazy by Prince. I find I enjoy the Incubus

cover more than the original song that Prince

sings. I don't know if it's the sound that Incubus

and that Brandon Boyd brings to it, but I just

absolutely love that cover. The other band I

want to mention is Live. Ed Kowalczyk, Chad Gracie,

Patrick Dahlmeyer, and Chad Taylor. Live is no

longer... Together sadly aren't they doing a

reunion tour soon though because I want to say

I heard that recently I Don't think so since

they got into a huge huge fight a number of years

ago I think was back in 2009 that they they actually

broke up I Think that what they're going to attempt

to do is replace cool. I'll check and then maybe

get back together for that uh yeah that's exactly

uh koalchick's departure after a concert at the

palacio in las vegas june 2009 live announced

that the band would take a two -year hiatus to

work on other projects koalchick recorded his

solo album alive and the other band members formed

a group with kevin martin sean hennessey of candlebox

called the gracious few uh... at the end of may

twenty ten the other three members of live fill

the file the lawsuit against call chicken their

former business manager in new york state supreme

court uh... calls it was asked about the lawsuit

in september of twenty ten interview but declined

to elaborate essentially what happened is he

tried to screw them out of uh... royalties and

stuff like that uh... but apparently as of uh...

Last year, Lives returned with Chris Shin as

lead singer. On June 8th, 2011, Chad Taylor revealed

that he, Dahlmeyer, and Gracie will be restarting

the band and recording new songs without Kowalczyk.

He made no mention of any potential new lead

singer. And then the latest news on March 12th,

2012, the band returned from their nearly three

-year hiatus with Chris Shin, formerly of Unified

Theory. As their new lead singer, the new lineup

performed before invited audience at the Strand

Capital Performing Arts Center in York. The band

performed a six -piece with The Gracious Few,

Sean Hennessey on guitar, and Alexander LaFure

on keyboards. So apparently they are coming back.

I've never heard of Christian, so I'm just gonna

wait and see, but live in the days of Ed Kowalczyk...

was amazing. Lightning Crashes, I Alone, Lacanee's

Juice, from the Mental Jewelry album, Beautiful

Grey, just Dolphins Cry from The Distance to

Here. Amazing, amazing artist. I just absolutely

love that band. I've often said I don't mind

if bands ever change the instrumental part of

them, like bass players, like guitarists, like

drummers. Three of a Deadman has gone through

like 20 drummers, their 10 -year career, they

just have. But I've also said that if a band

changes a lead singer, It changes the tone for

me. Like if Tyler Connelly was no longer the

lead singer of Three of a Dead Man, I don't know

if I would still be listening to them depending

on what the new singer would do. Same thing here

with Chris Shin. I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna

keep an open mind about it because I've been

a live fan since 2000. But there are just some,

you know, take Journey for example. Journey has

had multiple lead singers since Steve Perry.

And there are some that sound just like him and

there are some that don't. But It just depends

on what the new sound is going to be. Yeah, I'll

stick with the band as long as the sound stays

consistent. I can't think of too many bands,

at least in my experience, that have changed

lead singers significantly. I mean, with CKY,

they changed their bassist, like they changed

their underwear, which is unfortunate because

I really liked Vern Zabroski's, or I'm pretty

sure I fucked that name right up. And then Matt

Dice did it for one album or two, maybe. And

they're new guys. OK, so Rise Against. has had

some of their band members change up over the

years. And Offspring, I think, has stayed pretty

consistent. So I'm relatively happy with them.

But Mike, we should wrap this up. Yeah, we're

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we've had transformers he -man and mask as far

as the cartoon review podcasts we have done Now

we bring in TV's Mr. Neil as he and TFG and Mike

break down 9 video game cartoon series. Steve

Megatron will join us for the Mega Man and Sonic

episodes. We will be reviewing and analyzing

every episode of the Mario, Zelda, Captain and

Mega Man, Donkey Kong and Sonic cartoons. You

can expect us to go in depth and also talk about

the game franchises that spawn these cartoons.

So tune in Summer 2013 as we find the pixels

in the animation. And if I'm lucky, you might

just give it a little kiss And that's the message

that we deliver to little kids And expect them

not to know what a woman's clitoris is Of course

they're gonna know it in their courses By the

time they hit fourth grade, they got the Discovery

Channel, don't they? We ain't nothing but mammals

Well, some of us cannibals who cut other people

open like cantaloupes But if we can hump dead

animals and antelopes Then there's no reason

that a man and another man can't elope But if

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there you have it, the 2000s. Decade of ups and

downs. You know, Mike has gotten into a lot of

the nerdcore scene. I have essentially stayed

with bands that I've listened to in the past

10, 15 years. I don't pay attention to what's

new and current. Honestly, some of the newer

bands I find through watching WWE. I found a

band called Jet Black Stare and Rev Theory. Jet

Black Stare actually does one of the theme songs

for some of the people I work with over on That

Guy with the Glasses. Awesome. Yeah. I can't

remember what the name... I can't remember. It's

like... Like a hurricane. I don't know. It's

probably Ready to Roll. That's it. Yeah. That's

on Filmbrain's thing. They're pretty awesome,

too, actually. Yeah, they are pretty awesome.

That's going to do it for the 2000s. I know we

didn't hit everything, but there's only so much

we can hit and there's only so much we can focus

on. The next, let's see here. Let's see. We hope

you enjoyed this episode of GeekCast Radio and

wish you'll join us next time when we begin kicking

off the artist spotlights for the 2000s. There's

going to be a few of these. We are... Bringing

Steve Megatron back to the flagship show and

we'll be talking about weird Al Yankovic for

now I am TFG1 Mike with Mike the Birdman Dawn

said nerd core rise up. Thank you for listening

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