1990s Music Spotlight

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32 User of the 90s Hello and welcome to GeekCast

Radio episode 32. This will continue the epic

music spotlight we have planned here at GCR.

And yes, I know people are probably sick of the

music spotlight by now, but there's tons more

episodes coming up. I am one of your hosts, DioJo

and Mike, and joining me is David Double D Dennis

from This Week in Geek. Hello! Hey! JT from Saskatoon

who is an authentic geek, I think. I don't know.

Yeah, we'll go with that. I'm back! He's pretty

authentic, from what I know of his. Yeah. I'm

only missing two Zords out of my current Power

Rangers collection, so. Oh boy. And today we're

going to be talking about all kinds of music

from the 90s. Alright Dave, what have you been

up to? Um, well, I've just we have a lot of big

plans coming up for this week and geek that will

be revealed eventually so I've been Helping you

and Mike Dodd and all the folks over there get

things sorted out for that as well as Still working

on my podcast movie madness. You can check all

this stuff out at this week and geek net and

I don't know still doing a lot of writing on

the side and stuff Cool nothing nothing super

exciting, but lots of stuff in the works. Yeah.

Oh, yeah Normally most everyone or at least I

half the time don't like reboots But a certain

reboot coming up is gonna really really work

and it's gonna reinvigorate a lot of things So

what about you JT? What the hell have you been

up to? Eat work and sleep Just because like as

Mike said like I started my own blog and podcast

last year called authentic geek and That's more

or less on an indefinite hiatus right now Because

my co -host Doug big G Goldie is you know He's

prepping to get married and he's in school and

I'm just working a lot So we haven't really had

time to record anything the last month And that's

first. Yeah, unfortunately I was like started

this is like this is gonna be the greatest thing

ever and then like 12 episodes later What are

we gonna do now? So we'll we'll be back eventually,

you know, it's like a horror movie slasher. You

just can't put us down for good Very bad visual.

Well, it's not like I'm gonna claim to be a prime

and come back Three times. Oh boy. Yeah, just

saying Yeah once as a zombie which really killed

a lot of children's brains Alright, so we're

gonna take a quick break. We're gonna head to

this musical interlude and we will be back with

the rest of the show Yes, we are talking about

the 90s in music here on Geekcast Radio and Dave,

I don't know if you remember because it's been

so long ago, but I told you in I think it was

the 60s or the 70s episode that I had a story

about the 90s as far as listening to music. The

basic story is without going into too many details,

my mom had a nervous breakdown in 93 and I had

to move here to Kentucky to live with my dad.

It was a huge culture shock for me, going from

Massachusetts, where everything is awesome, to

Kentucky, where it's nothing but flat farmland

and tobacco, pretty much. At the time, I figured

Kentucky was nothing but country music, pretty

much. And for the longest time, I listened to

WAMZ 97 .5 here in Louisville. which is the country

station or one of the country stations and I

figured they didn't have any other music other

than country of course I was 13 at the time I

was stupid I was emo I was you know whatever

and then just one day I was like you know what

screw this I'm changing the channel to see and

I found music that I actually like you know stuff

that I listened to when I was still in Massachusetts

but yeah that was just really weird it was like

I was stuck in just a horrible horrible version

of like the Twilight Zone I thought at the time

Yeah, not a huge fan of country music myself.

I listened to it for like five years in the 90s.

So there's like Garth Brooks, Reba McIntyre,

you know, stuff like that. Anything that was

done by most country artists in the 90s, I kind

of like because I kind of grew up with it. But

it's not music I listen to at all, you know,

all the time. So. So JT, what did you what were

you listening to growing up in the 90s? Well,

basically from the time that I really recognized

music I basically listened to whatever my parents

were listening to in the car on the stereo at

home and In the 90s as I kind of started to develop

my own taste I I fell in with rock and roll like

rocks probably my all my absolute favorite genre

of music because there's so much you can do with

just that one thing I mean, there's so many different

variations and Mean the 90s I really you know

country I kind of tolerated because when the

country station I had growing up it was at that

mid 90s thing where everything was really about

love and marriage and just Just the really like

the the candy coating a country, you know, not

like kind of the the rough country We got today.

So I mean rock and roll is my favorite. I got

into hip -hop and rap a lot Just not necessarily

gangster up with stuff that had a good beat that

had you know It's because music's all about emotion

for me So if it had a good beat and I like the

lyrics and didn't annoy me I was pretty much

a fan of it So I mean there's stuff like, you

know, the mighty mighty boss tones No doubt the

kind of ska stuff. I kind of got into that for

a while and Eventually got out of it and I just

pretty much stayed with rock and roll throughout

the 90s What about you Dave? I was pretty young

in the 90s, so I didn't really get into 90s music

until more recently. The only music I really

actively listened to back then, since I was raised

in a Christian household, was a lot of Christian

rock. Now granted Christian rock now is kind

of annoying because it's all gone to like this

whole praise and worship thing where all the

songs sound the same and Sounds like they took

five minutes to write them but back in the 90s

It was a completely different animal and most

of the Christian rock albums. I listened to were

actually really good So I listened to a lot of

like DC talk and audio adrenaline and the newsboys

and if anyone knows Christian rock They'll know

who those guys are some of them are still around

newsboys are still releasing albums. So I am

I Absolutely loved DC talk. I love their free

at last album after that it kind of went meh

for me, but For me it was more so the 80s kind

of blended and bled over into the 90s like it

wasn't until like 95 96 that the 90s for me really

took you know its own thing you know really you've

got You know the start of the boy band craze

with new kids on the block. I mean really they

were the ones that that really started the craze

and then of course later on you'd have NSUK and

Backstreet Boys and all that stuff but New Kids

had that you know 80s sound still and they were

releasing stuff 90 -91 so And plus they're from

my hometown. So that's another reason why I like

them I guess something else that I liked in the

90s is how because to speak of the 80s bleeding

into the 90s like that because the 80s had a

lot of you know, the new wave stuff and you know

certain British and like European music would

come over and that's where we got like that you

know the electronic music and the Dance the dance

phase of the 90s and there's a lot of like, you

know I'll say songs from back that I like that

wasn't necessarily a huge fan of any one group

Maybe the Vanga boys, but again, I was 15 at

the time and hormones took over my life. So For

various reasons if you know the Vanga boys, you

know what I'm talking about. So Yeah, even even

you too had like their whole when octong baby

came out in 1991 It was a huge change for them.

And that was like a big like European dance music

influence on their music throughout that entire

decade Well, so it was affecting everyone Yeah,

and then you got stuff like sorry Mike, you know,

no good I was gonna say what were you gonna say?

Well, it's gonna say like, you know, you two

had the resurgence, you know, even stuff that

I listened to as a kid like Def Leppard and Motley

Crue I mean, they were released stuff but for

like the most marked change I would say it's

like stuff like Bon Jovi like I grew up loving

Bon Jovi in the 80s and in the mid 90s I forget

the album but when he when Bon Jovi had that

resurgence in the mid 90s you notice right away

that kind of hard left turn into This not necessarily

softer, but that very much adult contemporary

sort of yeah They told they told down a lot and

a lot of rock acts in the 80s that recorded in

the 90s a lot of them Just toned it right down

which I understood what I? Think the best example

that that I can think of is Aerosmith like back

in the seven late 70s early 80s. They were all

about like really fast hard rock and they had

a lot of great hits like toys in the attic or

whatever but then the 90s came and they were

all about like like you said they slowed it down

and it was all about rock ballads and it seemed

like all the classic rock bands were doing that

it was like the trend at the time for some reason

yeah yeah not not my favorite 90s trend i mean

there are a lot of aerosmith songs that i absolutely

love and i and i know and i agree with you guys

you know from the seventies to the nineties they

i would say they became way more polished and

everybody you know by the late eighties early

nineties the whole craze was how can we get a

radio hit how can we get that quote unquote make

me famous song you know I'm sure you know Aerosmith

has been famous since the 70s and all that stuff,

but it was like the 90s. It was just their way

of giving us all this stuff with you know crying

and crazy and all this and all that. God, I love

that video. Well, it's like the opposite of the

song. It's radio killed the video star because

everything, you know, political correctness just

dominated the 90s. I mean everything you know

parents wouldn't let kids buy anything with a

parental advisory sticker and radio songs were

like those insanely catchy hooks and they're

so polished and they almost bleed together into

one another and that's kind of why it was really

hard to listen to like a top 40 radio station

for me in the 90s was just because everything

sounded the same like there was you'd hear the

same song like three times a day Because all

of a sudden radio play and content control became

more prevalent than the music itself Yeah, yeah,

I mean, you know take was it 95 or 96 and I know

I know people are gonna be screaming at their

iPods No, don't talk about this. It was 95 or

96 when Macarena came out and That just took

over that song Was played at least once every

single hour, maybe twice an hour I think that

was one of the first songs that really just like

it took over the world Yeah In a way like you

you Everyone knew the Macarena by the end of

the year. It was ridiculous But it's you think

about it the 90s in it and this is the best way

I can express this ladies and gentlemen the 1990s

the decade of the one -hit wonder So many big

songs like what was the one of? OMC and how bizarre

how bizarre yeah, I loved I do love that song

like it's got a good beat I like it, but I saw

an interview on much music And I've seen it a

few times you know in the year since with the

lead singer like that weird dude with the pretty

eyebrows he's like oh we're gonna be the biggest

thing ever and this is never gonna stop that

was the only single they ever released it was

the only album they ever released yeah and it's

just like it's just the 90s like was almost like

hey we can kind of sing and carry a tune you've

got a record deal yeah that's what it seemed

like some days Yeah, and the thing is, and we're

gonna actually have a whole episode here in the

music spotlight dedicated to One Hit Wonders,

but the thing of One Hit Wonders is, I would

also say it's not just One Hit Wonders, but also,

as I said before, make -me -famous songs, because

there are certain songs, you know, from the 60s,

70s, and 80s, there may be one song from one

band or one artist that you know them for just

that song, and then you have other bands and

artists that you know them for multiple. Songs

and albums, so it was just one of those really

really weird times We have to because it is the

90s and because it's so very sad We have to talk

about the evolution of the boy band craze as

I said before New kids really kicked it off,

but where it got super popular was the whole

in sync and Backstreet Boys war I remember this

happening because I was a kid, but since I was

like a maybe 9 or 10 year old boy at the time,

I was supposed to hate Backstreet Boys in NSYNC.

That was like the rule that the girls loved them

and the boys were supposed to be all jealous

and vengeful towards them. So I don't really,

I just remember pretending to hate their music,

even though I was completely indifferent about

it. Yeah. For me, I would. For me with the Backstreet

Boys and in sync it was like I like a couple

of the songs and and again You know, this is

showing our ages JT and I are both way older

than Dave is Yeah, but But for me it was like

I like one I don't care for the other whatever

it was kind of like choosing sides, you know

I remember a girl in my High school. Oh man,

Elena. She she was obsessed with the Backstreet

Boys She would and I don't know how her mother

allowed her to do this But she was so obsessed

with the Backstreet Boys that her mom would allow

her to miss school to see them on like Good Morning

America or live with Regis and Kelly or whatever

Kathy Lee back in the 90s I think it was still

I know I knew girls that miss school to actually

go see them in concert Yeah, not to like watch

them on TV Maybe they would tape them on TV and

then watch the tape later, but I don't know.

That's pretty crazy. I kind of like Dave in that

I pretended to hate them, but I wasn't completely

indifferent. Like I said, I grew up listening

to a lot of music growing up, and I've always

had an appreciation for... singing groups, so

there are a lot of songs I like that came from

like teen pop groups like you know NSYNC and

all that or as I like to call them JT and his

backup singers. Let's face it no one really talks

about the other guys anymore, but I mean there's

a lot of songs I liked from guys like the Backstreet

Boys and NSYNC and that and more than anything

at least with the particularly the teen groups

like that in the 90s I loved watching their music

videos because some of them are actually Pretty

huge productions. I mean stuff like Backstreet's

back when they're all turning into like famous

horror movie monsters or you know Go is it gotta

be me from NSYNC where they're doing like the

Toy Story style thing on the shelf Yes, stuff

like that. I like but I mean boy bands. It's

like yeah it I knew girls in high school were

absolutely obsessive They'd open their lockers

and it's like wall. Oh Justin Yeah, I know what

you mean. All of what's his name, Brian, or whatever

the lead guy was from Backstreet, like it was

insane. We'd have girls, like we had a big -screen

TV in our cafeteria growing up, and every noon

hour we'd go to Much Music, which was still showing

music videos at that time, and the girls would

take it over and put it on Much Music, and it's

all NSYNC, all Backstreet Boys. you know, Five

from Britain, all these other groups, and I'm

just sitting there choking on my Coke. It's like,

God, make it end. There's almost so many pre

-packaged pop music that I can take. You know,

there was one band out of all of this that I

never really felt they were a boy band, even

though I know they are. 98 Degrees. When I first

heard their initial very first hit single, Invisible

Man, I, you know, yeah, they kind of sound like

Backstreet and N'Sync and all this, but I always

felt that they had more of an actual message

than, you know, certain songs had more of a message

than just your average, you know. Yeah, they

were like a white voice to men. Like they had

more of kind of a R &B... Sort of do it like

deal to their music. I would say yeah. Oh, yeah,

I mean especially I mean honestly if you take

the Invisible man for example take that and put

in boys to men It nothing would pretty much change

there might be some higher Harmonies or something,

but that's about it. Yeah. Yeah You know the

boy bands were a huge craze, you know still I

mean nowadays I don't think there are a lot of

boy bands around maybe it's because i'm not that

into the you know the top forty pop scene anymore

but you have stuff nowadays where it's american

idol or the voice or the sing -off or it's like

we want to find that one artist not that one

boy band group yeah it kind of evolved i guess

yeah let's put it this way mike there's no boy

band today that isn't backed by disney Yeah,

we're looking at you hot shell Ray Yeah, but

they haven't done shit in a while though yeah,

because Yeah, they were they were replaced by

Justin Bieber who will then be replaced by someone

else when he's too old. That's what we do as

a society. We pick a 16 -year -old boy and we

make him famous until he turns 18 or 19. As soon

as we see Whiskers, he's out the door. Yeah.

Before we move off of, I know this is specifically

boy band topic, but we also do have to talk about

the evolution of the pop diva in the 90s. Specifically,

again, goes to another war. Britney versus Christina.

I'm in the Aguilera camp. I'm just going to say

that. So am I. I didn't really like either of

them. Dave was too young. Yeah. Well, no, I remember

I remember their like their music and their music

videos and everything. But again, I didn't really

like either of them. They're both attractive,

I guess, but I don't like their music. yeah well

my argument would be is Britney is a pop singer

Christina is a diva and by that I mean she actually

knows how to sing in different ranges then just

look at me I have kids yeah which is a lot of

and that's what I love about Britney how you

know first music video was a baby hit me one

more time first signal huge everyone's falling

over themselves listening to it next video I

even forget what the song is, but you see that

she grew three cup sizes that day. Wasn't that

the red cat suit video? That came after the next

one. She was like all in white dancing on a dock

or something. Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't pay attention

to... But yeah, you look at all like you've got

Britney, Christina, Mandy Moore, the Spice Girls,

all that stuff that came out in the 90s like

all of a sudden is like hyper sexualized and

you're not even listening to the music. You're

just like... The swaying is almost hypnotic.

Yeah. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah, unless you were watching

the music video itself. It wasn't really even

worth like I could see like teen girls buying

the actual albums, but let's guys were only watching

it because they were hot. That's true. But I

have a sad confession to make and hopefully JT's

on my side in preparation for this episode. I

actually went back in iTunes and I bought two

songs off of Christina's first album and I bought

two songs off of stripped because she has that

voice I mean she is another one that has a voice

similar to what Whitney Houston had she's one

of those singers that can really hit those high

of music she's not just that same bubblegum pop

singer And Britney's sound really... Britney,

honestly for me, was probably one of the first

artists that I think ever used autotune. Yeah,

in terms of who's the better singer, it's definitely

Aguilera, hands down. But Britney Spears, I think,

had a more successful career, you know, until

she married Kevin. What's -his -face and Shave

Your Head and all that. Yeah. No, I mean, a great

thing, like I said, I listen to music. I don't

listen... To lyrics half the time so I mean I

like Christina, but again she had that range

You know and that like I said like 98 degrees

You know they they could have easily you could

have easily put them into the boy band when they

clearly were not They were more of a they were

a group. You know yeah, they were a quartet yeah,

and the last one we're gonna talk about before

we move off this this topic here is the Belting

songstress that was the breakout of Mariah Carey.

I mean, when she started, she was belting notes

like I had never heard before. Oh, yeah. No,

I mean, she she started off as that kind of teen

pop sort of singer like that, but then you see

quickly she just grew up and grew up. And her

career didn't really crash and burn as much as

Britney Spears' did towards the late 2000s. No,

I mean Mariah's career kind of It has its ups

and downs. Yeah, let's face it glitter. Oh Yeah,

no one yeah, but then then she can't yeah But

then she came out with I've never listened to

it But I just know the emancipation of Mimi like

two or three years after that was like a hugely

successful album Yeah, and that kind of Brought

her back in a way. So moving on to the next topic.

We're gonna talk about grunge music Yeah, finally,

we're done with the music that we don't really

like and well I like some of the music that we've

already talked about. No, not all of its bad

But I find this is where we could get into Yeah,

how the 90s actually evolved rock music to be

something new and different and exciting That

then then evolved itself into something kind

of bland and yeah But that's more the early 2000s.

But yeah grunge was was huge considering we already

talked about how Half of the rock music in the

90s kind of went into this like British like

uh dance music thing where it had like a techno

influence on it and then the other half was like

screw that we're not going to have any electronics

and it's just going to be hard buzzing guitars

and and gruff vocals and just go against everything

that's popular at the time and that was grunge

music and it was and that's It was alternative

music like the term alternative music gets thrown

around for everything nowadays Even if it's not

alternative music I think anyways, but back in

the 90s alternative music was an actual alternative

to what was really popular at the time Yeah,

and most of the at least the mainstream prominent

bands You know majority of them came out of Seattle

and there's like yeah five others that are from

other places because i actually had to look this

up on wikipedia to make sure i was you know informed

enough to be talking about this yeah i think

it's like nirvana pearl jam stone temple pilots

stone temple was outside seattle was it i thought

they were seattle they were based in san diego

um yes there's a third one that came out of uh

Soundgarden. Soundgarden, that's who it was,

okay. Yeah, Soundgarden, Templar Dog, The You

Man. I had heard, like, this type of, like, okay,

everyone knew the band name of Nirvana, everyone

knew the name Kurt Cobain. But, like, stuff like

Pearl Jam and Soundgarden... I just knew the

songs. I didn't know. I knew the band name, but

it wasn't like I knew who the lead singer was

at the time, or it wasn't like I paid that much

attention to it. I just knew that I liked whatever

song was on the radio. Yeah, everyone knows Spoon

Man. Yeah, everyone knows Spoon Man. Everyone

knows Fell in Black Days, Black Hole Son. Yeah.

Everyone knows Jeremy. Jeremy was a huge hit

for Pearl Jam. I still love that song. That's

one of the songs I can just throw it on and I

know all the lyrics to it. You want to talk about

a really out there music video, because that

song is a huge message about a kid who commits

suicide, isn't it? Yeah, he was going to kill

himself, right? He wasn't going to kill other

people. I'm not sure. I'm trying to remember

the original Like if you look at the lyrics of

the song it's about like a little kid and it

looks like grade school or something Yeah, and

he's just very troubled like his parents don't

care about him right and his teachers give him

a hard time Yeah He kind of reminds me of Calvin

from Calvin and Hobbes for some reason every

time I listen to that song Wow, I did not know

that they originally formed in 84 Holy crap Yeah,

I don't think they released an album till what

like 92 91 92 I think yeah Yeah, a lot of a lot

of bands formed of quite a while before they

actually released something Right, right. Yeah

And Nirvana, everybody knows Nirvana. And I think

one of the reasons why everyone knows Nirvana

now is because of the legacy of Kurt Cobain and

the tragic circumstances of his death. But back

then, even before he killed himself, everyone

knew that, you know, everyone loved, like...

When I was in a couple of my placements, because

I was a ward of the state at the time, I was

in different shelters and different foster homes,

stuff like that. There was one group home that

I was in that we constantly listened to the MTV

Unplugged Nirvana Performance cassette CD thing.

It was just Smells Like Teen Spirit and all these

other songs that just became so popular. Now,

and this is, you know, a little bit of a confession

on my part. I was very ignorant of Nirvana until

I heard Weird Al's parody of Smells Like Teen

Spirit. Oh. It's like Smells Like Nirvana. What

is this Nirvana that he speaks of? I would like

to hear more. And from there, I just like got

in and I mean, from Nirvana, you can go... pretty

much the Foo Fighters because Dave Grohl was

part of that band. I wasn't the biggest fan of

Nirvana. I really did like a lot of grunge music,

but I think my favorites were probably Pearl

Jam and Soundgarden. I think there's something

more there for me than there was with Nirvana.

I think the thing with Nirvana is, as I've said

before and I will probably repeat again later,

it's the songs. It's not necessarily the band,

but it's those songs that got the most airplay.

It's the songs that everyone knew. That's just

what it was. For me, I love Stone Temple Pilots.

I love a lot of their stuff. Amen. I can play

Dead and Bloated at any time and still love it.

I can play Plush. both the regular and the acoustic

version and just absolutely jam out to it. And

with Soundgarden, same thing, I can play those,

specifically those three songs, Spoon Man, Fell

in Black Days, and Black Hole Sun, I can play

those at any time and just absolutely just get

a flashback to the 90s. Yeah, because a lot of,

specifically, I think grunge like that, like

as soon as you hear it, you were pretty much

transferred back to where you were. as a kid

or wherever you were in the 90s when you first

heard that because I know that anytime I hear

Black Hole Sun I tend to go back to you know

going with my mom and we drove like it was probably

not even half hour 20 minutes over to like my

aunt and my uncles you know on another farm but

you know it was on the radio and I remember just

listening to it just kind of not necessarily

jamming to it, just kind of blissing out to that

and just, you know, riding the music we'll take

in the ride and just enjoying the trip, such

as it were. Oh yeah. And the thing is, Grunge,

even though it had, you know, huge mainstream

success and then it had a decline, you had bands

coming out of Grunge, you had post -Grunge bands,

like Candlebox, like Bush, like, you know...

all these other bands nowadays that are more

centered towards alternative or rock, and it

just was an awesome, awesome genre. Sorry. No,

go ahead. What were you going to say? I was just

going to say it's something that took the place

of the rock and the hair metal that was coming

out of the 80s and just struggling. It was almost

a natural growth in terms of like, okay, we've

heard it. Yes, you've got 15 pounds of hairspray

in your hair and you can hold three cords. Good

for you. We want something new. And grunge filled

that need, that void in the average music consumer,

I guess you could say. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then

I would say kind of led to the resurgence of

new metal. in the late 90s early 2000s which

was kind of like they almost took grunge and

that hair metal from the 80s and and and made

it kind of it had like the the sense of fun of

the the hair metal but like the intensity of

grunge and also there's almost like stuff like

faith no more rage like yeah yeah that's basically

what i'm talking about yeah but with like they

brought a lot of politics and Don't necessarily

mean this in a bad way, but they brought politics

and a lot of personal bias into their music I

mean especially rage against the machine like

my god. Yeah between between sleeps now in the

fire and killing in the name of and yeah, I Think

one of my now I'm not a big rage against the

machine fan, but again it goes to what songs

and at the time When Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2

came out for the PlayStation 1 They had guerrilla

radio in there and I just absolutely latched

onto that song because it was in that game Yeah

rage rage was still a great band I like personally

if I just if I'm Feeling a little bit angry and

I just want something to yell to uh... you know

i mean kind of moving off of grunge but not really

going into our next topic it but we still we

we we should mention obviously one of the most

hard rockin bands of the nineties metallica i

mean you know yes speaking of of bands that took

metal and then and then progressed it metallica

was really on the forefront of that oh yeah it

so go ahead mike i'd just Enter Sandman was just

one of those things where like five or six songs

off that self -titled black album, those were

all really, really great songs. Unforgiven, Wherever

I May Roam. I mean, they just like that black

album is really for me at the time is where it

was at with them. And I know that they had gone

on to do, you know, like King Nothing and and

uh... here of the day and all that stuff but

i think the thing with metallica was once they

did the black album stuff like here the day and

king nothing and all the other stuff that they

had done after that it seemed to me and people

can argue with me and they can leave hate mail

whatever uh... you know it seemed to me they

became slightly more polished as they went along

after the black album yeah and You look at stuff

like the sequel to Load, which is the album that

came after Black. Reload. Yeah, Reload. That

was the one I think specifically that had the

most polish on it in terms of... Because you

look at how many, they had like four singles

off of that that were huge radio and video hits,

like Fuel, Memory, Remains, Better Than You.

And honestly, probably my top five favorite Metallica

songs was The Unforgiven 2. You know that that

was probably my favorite off of that album But

yeah, I mean Metallica you think went from being

like this hardcore all rock no quit and then

you know the 90s hit and they're just kind of

like okay, I gotta take a breath and They they

put a lot of polish on it not and they didn't

really lose a lot of their like signature sound

But you notice the change It's like I said earlier

with Bon Jovi. You see that marked difference.

Yeah, and that's one of the common themes of

90s music is that it was the age of reinvention.

If a band didn't reinvent itself, then it disappeared

and people forgot about it. A good example of

that is something like Tears for Fears. You know

them for being an 80s band and then the 90s hit

and they had a few albums that came out in the

90s, but no one knew or cared about them. because

they didn't reinvent themselves once the 90s

came along, and then they sort of got lost. Exactly.

Outside of Shout, Everybody Wants to Rule the

World, and Head Over Heels, I don't know any

other other tracks. And those were all 80s hits.

Yup. Yup. The thing with Metallica is, and going

back to what JT said about Bon Jovi, take a track

like Shock to the Heart, okay? And then in the

90s I think is when they did Always. They went

from a hard rockin' song, that was really awesome,

to a softer rock ballad. Metallica never actually

really did that. Like James Hetfield has his

low points, but I don't think that they really

have, you know, an actual, you know, kinda softer

ballad to them. Yeah, because I think that the

most ballad esque song that Metallica did in

the 90s probably what did they covered? Turn

the page by Bob Seeger. Yeah I don't count covers

against bands Because for me, it's a tribute.

Neither am I yeah, you know neither I'm just

saying that's like the most ballad esque song

that I could think Metallica doing I mean there's

stuff like hero of the day and low man's lyric

which are you know thematically they could be

ballads but they're not really hero of the day

could be a ballad but it's not it still retains

that hard edge that it's not the heart it's not

the sharpest edge that they've had at that point

but it still remains to be some of their you

know hard edge that they had they just dulled

it a little bit it wasn't it wasn't like a A

huge change, like I said with Bon Jovi, from

like Shock to the Heart to Always. I mean, because

it was like so slow. Alright. Dave, you wanted

to bring up, or JT, you guys wanted to bring

up punk music. I know nothing about this. Well,

I'm not really a huge punk fan. This is more

Mike Dodd and Pier Sturks when I lived with them

for a while. uh... from this week in geek they're

huge punk fans and so i learned a little bit

about the genre from them uh... but there was

a huge resurgence of punk in the the early nineties

to it kind of started in the 70s there was a

big there's a big punk craze in the late 70s

and then towards the early 80s and then towards

the Early to mid 80s we had post punk and that

kind of led to new wave music and then punk kind

of got lost Like like like Green Day in the offspring

and rancid just coming along and releasing actually

really great punk albums. See the thing with

Green Day and The Offspring specifically is that

again going back to songs that I had heard from

them not listening to whole albums but the songs

that were on radio I never thought of them as

a punk Either one of them is I just borderline.

Yeah, they're like borderline alternative kind

of punk influenced and right, right? Yeah Well,

I was gonna say you look you got punk from like

back in the day like Sid Vicious and all that

I mean, obviously in the 90s, you had stuff like

legit punk bands, like there's legit punk, there's

pop punk, and there's stuff in between. I mean,

you had Rancid and No Effects and legit punk,

then you got stuff like, you know, good Charlotte.

And then you got bands that are kind of straddled

that fine line between pop and punk, which was

like, you know, of course, Blink 182 and Green

Day, which, you know, they talk about bands that

grew up eventually. I mean, Green Day tried to

grow up, and I just find them ridiculous now

and well blink 182 basically after what's my

age again? I stopped listening to them because

it just started sound So much radio they became

so much like radio music, but I mean you listen

to stuff like okay, even offspring They're one

band that I consider like they're pop punk But

they they still have enough of an edge to them,

and they've never really lost their sound I mean

it's been refined, but it hasn't gotten polished

I would say. You know, pick a that or what you

will. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Offspring wasn't

a band that was really going to be polished.

You know? Yeah. Go ahead, Dave. Was just gonna

say I mostly just wanted to bring up punk because

it was kind of it was a big thing in the 90s

Even if it was just happening below the surface

if punk didn't have that big resurgence in the

90s. It would not be For better or worse. It

wouldn't be as popular as it is now. Oh Yeah

Yeah, exactly and the next one we're gonna tackle

is The evolution of rap and hip hop now disclaimer

here, okay, I grew up in a neighborhood where

All of the families were white and we had one

black family in the neighborhood. It's nothing

wrong with that I'm not saying anything against

that I have nothing against the african -american

race or whatever It wasn't stuff that I you know,

the closest thing I got to it was like sir mix

-a -lot MC hammer a couple of their so obviously,

you know you can't touch this and all this and

all that oh what's another one you know oh man

um well yeah yeah ice ice sorry well no and amazingly

he's still popular which i find absolutely amazing

so all right so right now i'm going to take this

opportunity since jt brought up vanilla ice i'm

going to take this opportunity to blow your your

minds guys you know what vanilla ice is doing

nowadays home renovations on diy network yep

season two of the vanilla ice yes the vanilla

ice project he is doing construction and home

renovations yes he's been and i looked at he's

actually been doing that since like it was before

to the extreme yeah i was actually I was gonna

say when when you said do you know what vanilla

ice is doing nowadays? I was gonna guess crack

cocaine No He's on the straight and narrow Yeah,

he's actually there's like not Canada's got talent,

but there's like Like a singing TV show that

he's like a judge on that's coming out soon.

I mean, he's actually still working like he he's

been proud of like so many music promotions and

everything like they had Virgin had this huge

music promotion where if so many people demanded

like basically there's a petition where you go

to this website you demand him to apologize for

Ice Ice Baby he will apologize and when he goes

to this big music festival in Australia to apologize

for it everyone's like no man we just love that

song you know so but no i mean yeah you got stuff

like like rap Mean stop arguably rap started

in the early 80s with the Sugarhill Gang song.

I forget the name of it I can't remember it right

now. I'm sure it'll come to me later But I mean

rap started in the early 80s and 90s again been

going through the 80s somewhat But the 90s is

really where it blew up. I mean you had like

the big pop rap acts like vanilla ice MC hammer

you had You know, stuff like NWA, Iced Tea, Dr.

Dre, Snoop Dogg, all that stuff blew up in the

90s and, you know, disassociated white youth

was a huge part of that market, not me, because

I was like, what do they mean, blowing up blunts?

What's a drive -by, dad? You know, my dad's like,

I don't know, why are you listening to that crap

anyhow? It's like, it's cool. I was more into

hip -hop and R &B style singers like Boyz II

Men, D 'Angelo, Babyz. Like I said, I like music.

If it gets me emotionally, I like it for bad

or ill. So there's a lot of stuff I listened

to in the 90s. Even stuff like, not Erica, but

like Lauryn Hill and the Fugees, Lenny Kravitz

when he wasn't rocking out, Little Bit of Mariah

Carey, stuff like... it was good stuff yeah the

the thing with rap and hip -hop in the 90s you

know 2Pac came out and Biggie came out and Eazy

-E and all this and all that and then you had

you know Ice Cube and NWA and Ice -T and all

this and all that and everything else and you

know Cop Killas and whatever else and it was

just like I think, honestly, the only Tupac song

I ever listened to was California Love. Yeah.

Still a lot of songs, but I think rap, not necessarily

hip hop, but rap and hip hop kind of had that

unfair... Stereotype if it was all guns and hoes

and blunts and drive -bys and East versus West

and all that crap I mean, you know you it it

was taken to a very illogical extreme and I mean

then you see what happened with the guys like

shook night who was more or less a thug and then

he had the what happened to Tupac and Biggie

which was a tragedy be sure because I mean For

all the gangsta stuff that Tupac did he did have

a lot of heart and soul in his music And the

same thing with Biggie. I mean, they came from

pretty bad origins, but they built themselves

up. And that was part of the thing that came

across in their music. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

So moving away from this topic before I get thousands

of hate mails for it. Something that really latched

on, I mean, you know, in the 80s and the 70s,

more so the 80s, you had like film soundtracks

and movie soundtracks and stuff like that. But

in the 90s, soundtracks and scores took off.

People like, you know, Hans Zimmer, Danny Elfman,

Trevor Rabin, just... you know, the scores of

stuff just took off. And soundtracks, you know,

most of the time for me, soundtracks were a filler

between the next album for a band. Specifically,

and I know this is jumping ahead, but this is

really the only one I can think of, this is jumping

ahead actually a decade, between Silver Side

Up and The Long Road for Nickelback. they released

uh learn the hard way on the daredevil soundtrack

so soundtracks for me have always been if an

artist that i like has put out a song on a soundtrack

i'm like oh new song from the band i like you

know that kind of thing um you know the 90s was

good the 90s was uh i guess the late 90s early

2000s yeah more or less was really big on not

Just songs that are actually in the movie, but

they would label it as music from and inspired

by The movie is and it's songs that weren't even

in the movie It was just it kind of relates to

the movie So they kind of threw it on there the

first big album like that that I remember My

friend had it and he burnt it for me, and I listened

to it a bunch of times I don't even know why

it wasn't even that good, but the spider -man

2 soundtrack Which is mostly all all like emo

bands basically yeah they had the one song that

was actually in the movie yeah but i think the

thing with the spider -man soundtracks because

i have i think i do i have no i just have the

one um i did have the spider -man 2 soundtrack

at one point but it depended on again it goes

back to what i just said about bands that i like

you know And the Spider -Man 2 soundtrack had

a new Train song on it, it had a new Smile Empty

Soul song on it. I think there was like a Yellow

Card song on there that I really liked. Vindicated,

which was played in the end credits for the movie

I listened to a bunch of times. The thing with

the original Spider -Man movie soundtrack is

that, you know, you've got people coming out

on here like, you know, Stone Sour, you know,

Theory of a Dead Man, one of my favorite bands,

actually owes their fame to the Spider -Man soundtrack

because their very first hit single, Invisible

Man, the only place you could hear it in 2002

was the Spider -Man soundtrack because they didn't

release their debut album, self -titled album,

until later that year. And, you know, that was

great. I absolutely loved that song when I heard

it. But as we've said, if a song grabs us, we're

going to like it. Yeah. But I mean, you look

at some soundtracks, and I still have four of

my all -time favorite soundtracks I still have

in cassette form, so that just kind of shows

how old I am. But I mean, you look at the soundtracks

from, I'm going to say Ghostbusters and the three

live -action Ninja Turtles movies. every song

that is on those soundtracks is heard anywhere

from like a quick like five to thirty seconds

within those movies like ninety percent of them

and then you go down the line to like was it

98 96 98 when the blade movie came out with Wesley

Snipes and had like the had that soundtrack and

there was basically the blood rave thing from

the beginning of the movie And that's about it,

because the other, again, like Dave said, it's

music from and inspired by. And one of the soundtracks,

and I still have this, is the Batman and Robin

soundtrack. Don't hate me, I like the music on

there. That was actually a good soundtrack, though.

Say what you will about Batman and Robin, the

movie. Retarded, but the actual soundtrack especially

the the smashing pumpkin song on there I think

is yeah, they're one of my favorite songs by

them Yeah, the end was it that the beginning

is the end is the beginning and then they had

it They had a second version that yeah Yeah,

she had stuff like you had a goo goo dolls song

on there. He had an offspring I think there's

even a jewel song and you actually hear some

of that throughout the movie. Yeah, cuz you know,

it's so foolish games was the jewel song Yeah.

I know that. But I mean you go back to stuff

like from the 80s like was the Nick Nolte movie,

Teachers. I still have that. That was my dad's.

And every song in that soundtrack is in the movie.

And like I said earlier with like the pop stuff

and even rock music in the 90s is like... much

as political correctness played a part in music

in the 90s corporations just took over movie

soundtracks in the 90s that's why you're lucky

if you get two or three songs off a soundtrack

in the actual film and then the other 75 % whatever

is like music companies like throwing truckloads

of money at a music movie producers like hey

this is fits in your movie doesn't it huh huh

What sometimes really pisses me off is if I watch

a movie, and then I want to go get the soundtrack,

and the one song that I loved in the movie isn't

on the soundtrack, and it's like, fuck! Or it's

in the trailer, and it never shows up in the

movie at all. Exactly. I hate when they do that.

I hate that. Good idea. This doesn't really have

anything to do with what you're talking about.

It's just been a really good book, actually,

called Things the Grandchildren Should Know,

which is written by a guy named Mark Oliver Everett,

who some people, probably not a lot, but some

people may know as the lead singer of a band

called Eels that had one really big hit in the

90s called Novocaine for the Soul. And he actually

tells a story of, he had a song that came out

around the year 2000 called Mr. E's Beautiful

Blues. that they actually forced him to put it

on, I'm trying to remember the name of the movie,

Road Trip. It was the Road Trip soundtrack, and

they actually forced him, if he didn't put this

song on the Road Trip album, then his album wouldn't

get released. I think that's a really good example

of what we're talking about, that the whole soundtrack

thing just became so huge in the late 90s, early

2000s, that it was actually affecting artists'

careers. in that respect and they forced them

to shoot him music video with all the everything

and in the book he said it was one of his worst

experiences because he didn't like the movie

didn't what he didn't want his song to be used

in the movie but the record label forced him

to do it so yeah just another story yeah the

thing with like specifically i remember this

and i'm glad i made the choice i made but um

May 15th 1998. Yes. I remember the exact day

May Friday May 15th 1998. I had a choice of going

to a Free God free Garth Brooks concert or going

to pay to see quest for Camelot And I went out

to dinner And I saw Garth Brooks live in 1998.

Well, for free, why not? Right. But the thing

of it was, it was a reward for being, you know,

best person at the group home or whatever else,

you know, pick that, you know, because group

homes have people who donate stuff to them or,

you know, sometimes will reward the people that

are there that are, you know, either have the

best grades or best behavior or whatever else.

And my buddy Josh and I get to go see Garth Brooks

live in concert when he was doing his double

live tour in Lexington at Rub Arena and it was

so freaking amazing. There's nothing like having

that Garth Brooks concert interactive experience.

I'll take your word for it. I can't really I've

never been a Garth Brooks fan, but I can't really

speak for his like concert experience So I'll

I'll just like JT. I'll take your word for it

Because you don't have to be the best artist

in the world to put on a really great show. Oh,

yeah, no but as we said soundtracks and scores

really took off and You know that you know you

even today everything gets a soundtrack or a

score I think for the 90s the only thing that

has yet to or never got a soundtrack which is

very sad and it goes back to what we're saying

you know the songs are in the movie aren't on

the soundtrack well there is no soundtrack for

this i wish i hope to god at some point maybe

in the next anniversary year whenever it comes

up in twenty seventeen uh... i'm hoping kevin

smith will find a way to get a chasing amy soundtrack

damn it yeah because they had a lot of cool music

in that one One good thing about just about any

Kevin Smith movie is that it has really great

music in it. Clerks 2 is one of my personal favorites.

But pretty much all of his movies have just...

You can tell Kevin Smith is a huge music fan.

He's the one who really oversees all of that.

I love the soundtrack for J and Silent Bob Strike

Back. Come on, Ed Moore's Day in the Time. More

stay in the motherfucking time Like I mean you

can be that okay, I'll admit it now I'm like

the whitest guy I know but when they got up on

stage with more stay in the time at the end of

that movie. I was like That was like the best

part of the movie. Okay, second best the other

was the lightsaber fight with the Jedi Master

Now that we're talking about James applause go

back and I have to clip out the cock knocker

scene oh god why do they call you the cock knocker

well it's a really funny story boom avenge me

hence night shaka you want to call off dawson

here yeah okay i think we're derailing it here

mike okay so the final topic that we are going

to talk about here in the 90s episode is our

favorite artist overall Or 90s artists that we

listen to the most today For me it's as I said

in preparation for this I started listening to

Christina Aguilera again Honestly someone that

I haven't brought up that I absolutely love most

of his songs is at least from at least two albums

is Edwin McCain Misguided roses and messenger.

He was someone that I absolutely loved a lot

of his songs in the 90s um sadly other than that

i mean you know certain youtube songs like mysterious

ways and stuff like that and i don't listen to

britain i don't own any britney spears music

i don't even want to buy any britney spears music

uh i do own backstreet boys music and stuff like

that but whenever it comes up i always you know

hit next track i don't own any and suck songs

because i just don't care to listen to those

songs um But mainly for me, it's you know stuff

like Soundgarden stuff like Pearl Jam and Metallica

and and You know Stone Temple Pilots Stuff like

that. What about you JT? What what 90s music

do you still listen to today? I'm not not any

one artist in particular. I mean I still listen

to Nickelback, but I mean they were more of an

80s thing I guarantee he's Nickelback. No, I

meant Metallica Okay, I was gonna say, what the

hell? Sorry, brain fart. No, stuff like Metallica,

Soundgarden, I mean, you mentioned, because you

talked about Christian music earlier, I was a

huge Creed fan in high school, and I still am

to a certain degree. Foo Fighters, Faith No More,

like I said, a lot of rock albums, some hip -hop

stuff, I mean, the Goo Goo Dolls, even a little

bit of a fan of Usher as a singer, like, I like

his stuff. And I mean, cool, like at least a

90 story because you mentioned Nirvana Unplugged

and on much music we used to have when much music

actually showed music videos and was about music

and not reality TV. They used to have a show

called Intimate and Interactive where an artist

would come on and do basically an acoustic set.

And I was a huge and still am a huge Bryan Adams

fan. And I actually got to speak to Bryan Adams

on that show. Wow. because I like I knew summer

69 as a kid growing up but once into the 90s

and like I said when I started getting into music

I really fell in love with a lot of his music

like it speaks to me and they had like call one

800 you know much music you know whatever it

was and I got in and I actually got to talk to

him and that that that is honestly like one of

the you know best day ever because It's like

one of my all -time favorite musicians, one of

my heroes growing up. And it actually made me

cool in high school for about a week and a half.

And then everyone realized, oh, you're still

you. But no, it was really cool. Like I said,

first of all, I said, I want to thank you for

all your awesome music. You're like a huge influence

to me and a lot of other people. And he's like,

well, thank you very much. And I was like, oh

my god, Brian Abbs just. Thank me Yeah, you know

it was just so awesome cuz I mean I don't did

you guys ever got to talk to anybody like that

in the 90s or um I didn't really but there was

a time When When I was living in Massachusetts,

I think it was 91 92 something like that At the

time everybody will know this to be true Delilah

From Delilah after dark and what you know that

you know the huge radio show that she has you

know She was based in Boston at that time and

she was on 105 .7 WVBF and I actually because

back then there was no internet. There was no

email whatever else I actually sat down as a

10 11 year old kid wrote her a letter and mailed

it to the radio station. I got a letter back

about a month later. I wish I still had that

letter today. I don't even know if my mom ever

saved it. But it was just so awesome to get a

correspondence from a radio personality like

her. It was just great. What about you, Dave?

What 90s music do you still listen to today?

For me, we didn't really get into this in the

show, but it was more like that alternative music

that doesn't really fall into grunge, into the

grunge category, but it's just kind of its own

weird little thing. I think the best name for

that person is Beck. I'm like a huge, huge Beck

fan. In the 90s Beck was sort of like the Bob

Dylan of the 90s that he couldn't really no one

could categorize him No one could really figure

out what his style was He was kind of halfway

between rock and country and hip -hop all at

the same time And that's what I really like was

sort of the people in the 90s that were willing

to do that kind of experimentation Another great

90s band we didn't really get into much was the

Pixies Really huge really influential 90s band

that most of the what we call indie rock today

Wouldn't exist or wouldn't really sound the same

if the pixies didn't have the influence they

did in the late 80s early 90s So yeah a lot of

stuff like that I think Bell and Sebastian started

in the 90s Weezer is a huge one for me. I mentioned

Eels earlier I don't know. I could go on and

on. Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, all sorts

of... There's all sorts of random stuff in the

90s that has all its own style. Oh yeah. I think

that we'd be remiss. I know we would probably

mention it at some point in the countdown episode

for the 90s, but we would be remiss if I didn't

bring up Hootie! Hootie and the Blowfish. Oh

god. Shut up. You had your guilty pleasure. Let

me have mine, damn it. What song did they do?

Because I'm trying to remember, like, I remember

the name. Hold my hand, let her cry. Never gonna

be with you. Never gonna be with you. Running,

not running blind, that's a Godsmack song. I

think, honestly, I think I'd have to actually

listen to them again. So that's gonna be my homework

after this. Yes. What else was there? Sorry,

it's the what is it the Proclaimers that did

the Friends theme song? That was the Proclaimers.

No, that was the Rembrandts. That's it. That's

the word. So yeah, the Proclaimers did Was it

500 miles? 500 miles. Yeah No, that that's that's

a guilty pleasure song for me and I'm talking

the long form version not the 30 second intro

I prefer the 32nd intro Speaking of the Proclaimers

another soundtrack I forgot to bring up that

I still own and I still love the soundtrack is

the Weirdly enough the dumb and dumber soundtrack

Had a lot of really great songs in there. There's

there was a song by the butthole surfers. There

was one by crash test dummies, it was kind of

a had a semi big hit with trying to remember

the name of the song Peter the Ballad of Peter

Pumpkinhead yeah I love that one I actually still

have that on cassette as well god that's such

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Solo from Geekcast Radio Network's new show,

The Telecast, with some important information

on our theme song contest. The rules for this

contest are pretty simple. In Season 1 of the

Telecast we will be covering 33 classic kids

shows from the 80's and 90's. Obviously all of

these shows had theme songs which sometimes can

be the most memorable part of a show. This contest

is going to test your memory on those theme songs.

How is that you may ask? Well, because we have

taken 32 of those classic theme songs and smashed

them into one 3 minute clip. Your job is to identify

the order in which these 32 shows appear in that

3 minute clip. Also, you must be able to identify

which one of the 33 shows was left out of the

clip. Some of the shows should be fairly easy

for you to identify while others may be a bit

trickier. For a list of all of the shows in season

1 and more information on the contest, visit

the telecast page at geekcastradio .com. Also

remember to tune in to every episode of the telecast

because each episode will contain that show's

theme song in its entirety at the beginning of

the show as well as the 3 minute contest song

towards the end of the show. This has been Optimus

Solo from the telecast saying good luck and happy

listening. Oh god, here we go, the world dominator

over there. Yes. What? What are you talking about?

He's always tweeting that he wants to be a world

domination expert. He wants to dominate the world.

Well, I figured I couldn't screw up any more

than it already is. Yeah, you can't do any worse

job than Obama already has. plus i already have

the first prerequisite i have an awesome evil

laugh yeah there you go so there you have it

folks uh that's our 90s episode as i said before

i know we didn't hit everything but there's so

much to talk about for 90s music um you know

during the break i did school dave on on hootie

and the blowfish and he agreed that they're not

that bad for what what they were in the 90s so

there is that uh... any final thoughts j t no

i mean it the nineties was a time where a lot

of new music developed in a lot of it either

struggles to this day or died out right i mean

you don't really hear anything euro dance anymore

unless you go to like a club in a visa yeah so

or some sort of rave so what about you david

any final thoughts well uh... like my Personal

two favorite eras or favorite decades of music

are probably in 1967 to 1977 and then 1991 to

2001 and the main reason for that is because

the The 90s had so much going on and it's it's

so hard to define the 90s I mean we got into

like three or four different styles But there's

tons of different styles of music that emerged

in the 90s that are still around today that we

haven't even touched on Yeah, and so it's it's

one of those decades where no matter what type

of music you like be it hip -hop or pop or Hard

rock or or like pop You know that came out in

the 90s no matter what Yeah, I mean it was a

you know it was a decade of so much variety and

good variety. It wasn't like we had all this

stuff, but it was all kind of mediocre. There

were really legitimately good bands in each genre.

Oh yeah. And the thing about, and I know JT's

gonna wanna talk about this for a second, the

thing about the 90s and the soundtracks is sometimes

a soundtrack could launch you as an artist or

a band. Oh yeah. Specifically... Mr. Johnny resnick

and the goo -goo dolls because as soon as iris

was on the city of angels soundtrack that just

propelled them to fame Well, yeah, no my I mean

my first extortion to the goo -goo dolls is a

buddy of mine in high school had superstar car

wash Which was the album? I think that directly

preceded a boy named goo, right? Yeah, and then

that's really around the time that they really

hit big on the radio And yeah, no I Google dolls

put some good music in It's the soundtracks throughout

the 90s. I mean, they did, uh, well, the early

thousands, they had that, uh, the one on treasured

planet that actually I really like. I know a

lot of people don't like that song or that movie.

So yeah, that's a very underrated movie on a

random side note, but yeah, the thing about the

goo goo dolls is over their time that they've.

That they've evolved, they've had so many great

like. Because I've got... I've got... The album

Boy Named Goo, the only song off the entire album

that I have is name. And then from Dizzy Up The

Girl, I have Dizzy, Slide, Black Balloon, and

Iris. From Gutterflower, Here Is Gone. And then

I have Stay With You and Let Love In from the

Let Love In album. But recently, I mean, they're

a band that they never really had like certain...

we've talked about it through the entire music

spotlight certain bands and certain artists you

know evolve with the times these guys have their

sound they know what they're doing they're not

so i don't want to say dirty but they're not

so polished but they're not so raw at the same

time they have that middle ground they they fell

into the 90s pop rock Genre which is something

we didn't really get to talk about but other

bands that kind of fell in there were like Matchbox

20. Yeah I'm trying to like the soul collective

soul I just heard world I know the other night

when I was preparing for this and I was like,

oh my god I remember this song and that was a

huge much like the boy band trend that was a

huge trend in the 90s that yeah isn't around

so much now, but Yeah Those songs that could

kind of be played on top 40 or on an alternative

station. I know there's like a big gap between

those two styles, but back in the 90s, you actually

had songs that bridged those two worlds. Yeah.

And we would be remiss because the 90s is really

where I found out about certain radio shows and

stuff. I don't remember them in the 80s as much

because obviously I was younger then. But the

90s with Rick D's Top 40 and Top 20 and Top 10

and whatever else Rick D's had done. I always

loved the Rick D's Top 40 countdown. At the time

when Fox Kids just started, they had the Fox

Kids countdown with Chris Leary. But I mean really

the big countdown show was obviously American

Top 40 and 20 and 10 and whatever else it was

called. But American Top 40. with Casey friggin'

Kasem. Oh yeah. Everybody remembers American

Top 40. Every Sunday, I would listen to American

Top 40. That would be my thing. You know, and

you hear stories of people that, you know, like

my grandparents and great -grandparents and stuff

like that. When I was younger, I would hear stories

from them about growing up in the 20s and 30s

and 40s and listening to radio shows. Well, for

us, in the 90s, American Top 40 was. our radio

show. Granted, it was for music more so than

radio plays and all that stuff. But it was just

so great to have a countdown that you could listen

to, to have something that you could either write

in or call into to do a long distance dedication.

And the same thing with Delilah. She, over her

radio career, has helped a lot of people through

music. And it's just, it was so great. Well,

no and see I'm speaking to like radio shows and

DJs like one of the guys that really got me into

like the dance music and Stuff like that in the

90s was a guy up here in Canada named Chris Shepherd

who I don't know if Dave remembers Chris Shepherd

at all It's not really familiar. Yeah, he had

Well, he used to have this show on was a syndicated

radio show for a while called the pirate radio

sessions which Growing out but like I used to

listen to it because I would be able to catch

it on like internet radio Back when that first

became big and he for the biggest time like he

was this huge DJ throughout the 90s and Eventually,

you know, he just kind of retired not too long

ago, which You know, that's cool. I mean he basically

retired about five I think about five years ago

just kind of living in the suburbs and yeah,

you know producing music and that but he was

a guy that he was like one of the One of the

biggest names in radio and Canadian like music

production throughout the 90s and he got me into

a lot of stuff like There there's like, you know,

cuz they have like now that's what I call music,

you know It comes out like every year with all

these radio hits Well, he used to do this one

and the series is still coming out But he's since

removed his name removed his name from it called

Groove Station which was basically remixed versions,

you know, it's like 1920 radio hits and he would

used to like do remixes of All these songs and

now it's like some other guy doing it. But again,

you know like the Lila. He's a guy that you know

helped a lot of He helped expose Canadians to

a lot of dance music and such like that in the

90s So yeah, and for me growing up and this isn't

something I really mentioned in the eighties

episode because i was still a little kid back

then but for me growing up and you know from

going from massachusetts to here to kentucky

i lived in mississippi for a while every town

that i've ever lived in I've always, you know,

whatever radio station I found to listen to,

I've always tried to get in good with the DJs

because at the time back then, I wanted to be

in radio. I know, I know, I know radio is a dead

-end job. I mean, there's no pay in it whatsoever.

But for me, it was more so the enjoyment of wanting

to be in the studio with these people and just

watch them work and eventually one of these days

working with them. Hence why I think I became

a podcaster because granted, I'm not, you know,

I'm not sitting in a $10 ,000 radio station studio

or whatever with millions of tracks to play,

but at the same time, podcasting for me is the

new radio, as far as that goes. For me, Lauren

and Wally from WVBF, which is now WROR up in

Boston, I love calling it into their show as

a kid and as an adult. Here in Louisville, one

of the DJs who has now retired, Peter B from

WDJX, 99 .7 WDJX. He actually, he was a morning

show DJ. And he, if he had like, you know, a

five or 10 minute break between, you know, air

times, because the songs, there would be some

times where I would call him up and, you know,

we would talk about at the time Melrose Place,

because Melrose Place was big in the 90s and

everything else. We'd talk about that. And he

would ask me about, you know, how's my day going,

blah, blah, blah. And it was just one of those

things that he really touched me. And it was

like one of those things where you know you can

get to know these people in a you know not personal

level but you you know i can sit here and say

i know peter b because i've i had listened to

him for the last 15 20 years and it was just

great it was just just amazing so i think with

that we're going to bring this episode to a close

we hope you enjoyed it uh and wish you'll join

us next time when we will be talking about This

is the next countdown. Our top 10 favorite artists

or bands from the 90s, which will hopefully feature

Double D and JT if we can get the schedule straightened

out. Just a note, we are not doing any artist

spotlights for the 90s because as you've heard

in the last hour or so... There's so much to

choose from from the 90s. The music spotlight

on Geekcast Radio would be going on forever and

ever and ever if we chose three or four artist

spotlights, and Steve Megatron would kill me

because we're trying to get the spotlight to

be moot, you know, go as fast as we can go, but

still keep the quality that we are keeping. For

now, I am TF2O Mike with David Double D Dennis,

JT from Saskatoon. Thank you for listening until

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