Most Hated TV Shows of the Last 30 Years

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warning, Megatron. Hello and welcome to GeekCast

Radio, episode 27. I am one of your hosts, Steve,

Jared, and Mike, and joining me is Kevin OptimaSoloThompson.

Hello. Ah, that's not what you called me the

other day. We're trying to keep the show professional,

damn it. Oh, okay. 27. As today we are going

to be talking about what we think are the worst

TV series in the last 30 years Shows that we

just can't bring ourselves to watch ever however

before we get to that we have a new GCR review

on iTunes So yeah, take it away Yeah, buddy iTunes

review is entitled 100 top animated series of

all time dot dot dot epic and that's one two

three exclamation points five stars it's from

Flix guy left on back on June 22nd and it reads

this in my opinion episodes 20 to 25 .5 are epic

in response to IGN's top 100 animated series

of all -time lists, the Geekcast Radio podcast

tackles the subject too. However, instead of

just posting a list on their website, the Geekcast

Radio team produces a podcast which spans from

episodes 20 to 25 .5, and if that isn't enough,

the Geekcast staff invites other well -known

geek podcasters to weigh in on the debate. I

consider these episodes to be equivalent to the

X -Men Dark Phoenix saga of geek podcasts. Excellent

job! Three more exclamation points. So, thank

you for that review, and suck on it, YouTube

users. Now, let me just say, he left us back

in June, right? The end of June. The end of June,

okay? We would have gotten to this sooner, but

Kevin and I had just finished recording GCR episode

26. And like, the next day, Kevin's like, oh

hey, did you see the new iTunes review for GCR?

I'm like, no. I saw it about 12 hours too late

to get it in on 26. I looked at it, and I'm like,

you dumbass, why didn't you tell me about it

so we could put it in GCR 26? Yeah, I hadn't

seen it yet. But thank you for the review. Leave

more, people. Yes, thank you so much. Wasn't

that Flix Guy? Flix Guy. Flix with an X. Yeah.

Thank you so much, Flix Guy. We hope to actually

increase the number of episodes that we produce

for GeekCast Radio Podcast here at the flagship

show. Oh, it's going to get good, folks. Oh,

it's going to get really good because... It's

about to take off. Well, I'll tell you this.

This month will be the first time in GeekCast

Radio Podcast history that we have more than

one episode... Like Releasing close to each other

because normally we do them like once a month

once every three months once every six months

not anymore But yes, so with that One of the

things with this topic the most hated TV shows

in the last 30 years For me what it boils down

to number one for me personally what boils down

to his popularity of the show of everybody's

talking about it tonight i see an ad for it or

i see you know part of an episode right you know

attempt to watch like the first episode of said

show and i don't like it but everybody else does

that's what really gets me is all my god did

this show is on and i and i know i say that about

stuff as well my god this shows us memories check

it out but The point of this episode is to just

discuss, over the last 30 years, from the 80s

to now, what Kevin and I think are... Our least

favorite. Our least favorite, and just shows

that we cannot bring ourselves to watch. To me,

the way I view it as, is like, these are the

types of shows, if I'm... looking for something

on TV and there's nothing there's like no big

events happening on TV or whatever but um I want

to watch TV because whatever I've been working

or I'm getting ready to eat dinner or whatever

to me this list represents when I'm flipping

through the TV guide shows that I will not even

consider for a split second turn into even if

I am desperate like these are shows that the

TV will go off or I will like order a movie before

I watch one of these shows Exactly. And this

actually ties into the next episode's topic,

specifically to what you just said. You'll turn

the TV off or you'll get a movie or something

else. That's one of the reasons, and I know you

aren't into the Netflix instant stuff, and that's

fine, but that's one of the reasons why I absolutely

love my Netflix instant subscription, because

if there's nothing on regular TV, I can go watch

Numbers. I can go watch MacGyver. I can go watch

A -Team. I can go watch Spin City. This is why

I love my DVR and the fact that I still have

50 episodes of Wonder Years to watch. God So

again as Megatron is said and as we have said

This is just Kevin and I's opinion of what just

shows that we just will not watch This is not

our top 100 worst shows of all time or whatever

We're not necessarily saying these are the absolute

worst shows ever but to us they are Yes, yes

very much so and the way we've separated it is

kind of by decades. So yeah And we're just talking

about our lifetime, so we're only going back

the last 30 years. So we're not going back to

the 70s or in the early years of TV. We're not

doing that. No. From 1980 to 2011 is the time

constraint on this episode. So with that, we're

going to get into stuff from the 80s, and we'll

be back after this. Some people might disagree

with this next statement that I'm going to say

I know Kevin will not We're gonna agree on something

Yeah, shocker. We're gonna actually agree on

some everybody brace for impact exactly the 80s

best decade ever now now I Can't say best decade

ever in general. I can say best decade ever when

it comes to cartoons and when it comes to TV

shows i'm not going to go into fashion i was

a music well for me it's music as well uh...

see that's where we will differ well you know

one of those is the best -selling dual do a little

bit easier but i still like myself some nineties

music i'm not saying like okay this is a time

this is discussion for we get to the music spotlight

that will get to eventually but for me when I'm

in the mood I can put on my 80s playlist that

has god knows how many bands and artists and

I can just put it on shuffle and I can listen

to it all the time because it takes me back in

time so I mean that's that's what I mean about

about 80s beat you know the music was awesome

in the 80s For TV shows, for me, and we're not

getting into cartoons or anything, we won't be

discussing cartoons at all. No, this is live

action only. Right. I mean, cartoons for me,

it's obvious that the 80s and the 60s were probably

the two best decades. But for TV, for live action

shows, 80s to me represents kind of the in -between

time where it was... Okay, we've been doing TV

shows for a couple decades now So we've kind

of got the you know, the first experimental jitters

out of the way We're not just doing straight

-up Comedies and sitcoms like basically was all

you almost had in the 50s 60s even the somewhat

into the 70s, you know, it was a lot more of

just a sitcom comedies variety shows stuff like

that 80s to me represents like the taking off

point be And also where it was so good because

it was before reality shows took over it was

before and I'm a huge fan of Law and Order But

it was before the crime drama took over And the

80s just was such an eclectic group of shows

That I just I can't come up with many shows from

the 80s that I would just like absolutely despise

watching Yeah There is no Okay out of like okay

We should have mentioned this in the intro, but

we have four different sections that will comprise

each decade. Action, adventure, dramas, all that,

you know, all the serious television stuff. Sitcoms

and comedy, reality shows, and then other, which

could be game shows, late night talk shows, variety

shows, news shows, etc. So those are the four

categories we have. And out of the 80s, at least

for me, There's only two that I just never could

watch. And they're in the other category. Yes,

they're in the other category. And partially

it's because my mom tried to make me watch them

every day. Uh, Oprah and Donahue. Now, I'm not

saying anything against Oprah as far as what

she's done for, you know, Charity all that stuff.

I'm talking specifically about the Oprah Winfrey

show Both of Oprah's and Donahue's shows I believe

at the time back in the 80s Donahue now that

I remembered Donahue was on at 3 and Oprah was

on at 4 3 p .m. And 4 p .m. And I just Donahue

does give me the creeps Donahue does give me

the creeps The only time I ever liked Donahue

was when Lieutenant Frank Drebben replaced him

Well see to me he was like one I mean you also

had like Geraldo back then and you had a bunch

of other people but to me Donahue was just the

one I don't know if it was his look or his personality,

but I Could I agree with you? I could never watch

a Donahue show. I I mean, I didn't watch much

Geraldo either, but Donahue was even worse I

think the only time that I've ever actually watched

Geraldo is if he ever guest starred in another

show. Like he guest starred on Nash Bridges a

couple times. Like if he's doing guest spots,

I can watch him. His actual show, no. And this

is going to be a trend for me because I have

three others that will come up later about talk

shows. If I had to come up with something for

the 80s. would probably say and this is kind

of cheating but I would just throw the whole

soap opera genre in there and they were really

big in the 80s with General Hospital and you

know whatever as the world turns and they're

still big today I know but the guiding light

like they were huge in the 80s and like I just

in general can't watch soap operas so I'll throw

that in that's my one pick for the 80s soap operas

So I think that's it for the eighties. We're

gonna head in, we're gonna jump in the door and

head to the nineties. She was working in a bridal

shop and flashing queens till her boyfriend kicked

her out in one of those crushing scenes What's

she to do? Where was she to go? She was out on

her bed So it's time to put the 80s behind us

and go into the 90s. I'll let you start, I guess.

Do you have any action or dramas? I do have some

action drama shows and I'm gonna get hate mail

for both of them, actually. One of them, I will

fully admit and I understand that it has a cult

following. I understand that it was considered

a very good show and I understand why people

like it. But I cannot stand the X -Files. I just

can't watch the X -Files. I don't like Mulder

or Scully as characters. I don't really even

like their actors. And it's just something, it

was just, I don't know if it was too far out,

I don't know if it was the following that I had

at the time, but I cannot sit through an episode

of X -Files. Now to me it comes down to choices

When the x -files premiered or when it was running

I think people are gonna kill me and I know I

know people are screaming at the top of the long

straw pods I could have sworn x -files premiered

the same year that the adventures of briscoe

county jr. Premiered If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I'm not looking it up right now. We're just trying

to you know have a discussion about this but

I had a choice and I at the time Adventures of

Briscoe Cannon Jr. came on at 8 p .m. and X -Files

came on at 9 p .m. I watched Briscoe. I loved

it. It was great. I go to watch the X -Files.

Oh it's aliens and UFOs and oh my god conspiracy

and I was just immediately turned off by it.

I think the only thing out of the entire X files

franchise that I actually find watchable is the

movie that they did Fight the future your memory

is good. By the way, they both premiered in 93

That's what I thought so people aren't yelling

at you Yeah. X -Files to me, and again, like

I said in the intro, it comes down to, like you

said, the cult following, it comes down to, oh

my god, the show is, oh my god, everybody must

watch the show. And I know my brother loved it

and everything, but I've never been into, I love

sci -fi, I am a huge sci -fi fan, but I am not

a huge supernatural this type of sci -fi. Yeah,

to me it's just all a bunch of hokey. Where's

hokey wolf when you really need him? Anyway,

sorry. X -Files is a certain niche of television

watcher. That's not me. Exactly, and it's not

me either. The other one's going to piss you

off. I don't know if I want to say it right away.

Go ahead. Because I know you love this guy. Just

can't get I can't take anything serious that

he does And Walker Texas Ranger was one of those

things that he did Okay, I just can't I've tried

to watch it I even tried to watch it recently

and it's just something that I can't stand because

it's so cheesy and I just can't No, I don't want

it like some of the shows that we may list may

end up in future seasons of telecast So I don't

go too far, but I will say that honestly Chuck

Norris himself the only thing I'd seen him in

previously before Walker Texas Ranger was a movie

with Jonathan Brandis I believe also in 1993

sidekicks That's I mean I've seen like bits and

pieces of some of Chuck's other movies Walker

Texas Ranger it was amongst that that CBS Action

prime time thing they had going on in the 90s

Walker Texas Ranger martial law Nash bridges

You know that kind of stuff now. I do find it

very very far -fetched that Texas Rangers You

know full -on karate taekwondo, you know, you

know just sit there I've watched stuff on A &E.

It was a show called A &E SWAT. It was Dallas

SWAT, Detroit SWAT. It was a bunch of city SWAT

teams. And these people never did anything like

what Walker did at Walker Texas Ranger. That

being said, over the time of watching the show,

I got to like the characters. And I got to like

the personal stories going on with all of the

characters. Interesting fact. Before this, Clarence

Gilliard, who plays James Trevette on Walker,

was on Matlock for a number of years, and he

was also one of the bad guys, and he was the

computer genius bad guy in Die Hard. Okay. So

I like some of the other actors in the show.

Okay, I just can't say Chuck Norris as an actor.

That's fine, that's fine. Anything else? No,

that's it for my action block. I don't have anything

for the action block at all. I just really couldn't

think of that many things. Going into sitcoms

and comedies, I was devastated. Like everybody

was devastated when the Cosby show ended. And

then they're like, oh, I think it was Denise.

They're like, oh, let's take Denise on a journey

and let's put her in a different world. I cannot

stand that show. I liked it only for the one

character with the tall guy with the glasses.

I don't remember his name now. But no, it was

nothing like the Cosby Show, so I understand.

I could watch it, but I get it. It was so far

gone, and I get it was about Denise's journey

doing stuff past Cosby Show and all that stuff.

Sometimes when you take a character out of their

original show and try to do a spinoff with them,

it just doesn't fucking work. The other one from

the 90s for sitcoms that I absolutely hate and

this is solely because of the main star and this

person's voice. I already know what you're gonna

say. What? I already know what you're gonna say.

It's on my list too. The Nanny! I can't watch

a minute of it. Oh my god! I don't even know

how that show lasted more than an episode. Fran

Drescher should not be an actress. No, how can

you base your show on the most annoying person

on the planet? Okay, now let's do a little comparison

here. In the 80s, you had Mr. Belvedere. He was,

you know, but... My memory might be filming you,

but you can correct me on that. He was the butler,

right? Yeah, kinda. Family? Yeah. He was, he

was that time. Okay. You have Mr. Belvedere in

the 80s. Mr. Belvedere was a great show. For

the most part. Okay? You flash forward to the

90s, and you get almost the same type of show.

But wait, how many is us like this? Yeah, she's

terrible. Just... God awful. Oh my god. I definitely

had that as number one on my list, as number

two on my list for sitcoms of the 90s. I don't

know, go ahead. There's some other ones and people

are going to hate me for these because there's

three that are really popular. Actually all of

mine are probably pretty popular. I can't stand

the Drew Carey show. See, I like Drew Carey.

I like his show. I don't find him funny. And

that girl that was on his show was almost as

annoying as Frank Drescher. Kathy Kinney? Whoever

that chick was. He likes or that likes him. I

mean or something. I don't know the big big one

Yeah, that's Kathy Kinney. She played Mimi. Yeah,

I couldn't stand her and I'm just never been

a Drew Carey fan Like even on whose line is it?

Anyway, I like everybody except for Drew Carey

on that show So I would never be caught watching

that show I will say one thing about the Drew

Carey show because I I do in fact like it I can

I can watch an episode of Drew Carey and I can

laugh, but to each their own. The one good thing

about the Drew Carey show is it produced Craig

Ferguson, who is doing Late Late Show now. So

there's that. The most popular one on my list

is, and I don't think I've never met someone

else that hates this as much as I do, but I'm

someone who can usually watch just about any

sitcom. I don't usually watch them when they

first air. I don't watch them when they are.

I usually catch up with them once they're on

repeat where I can watch them where they you

know play back -to -back And they're on every

single day. I mean, that's how I've watched almost

everything. That's how I've watched indication

Yeah, once they're in syndication. That's how

I've watched Seinfeld That's how I've watched

King of Queens shows that I never even thought

I would watch and then I catch a couple episodes

And I'm hooked and I watch them for a while Never

have been able to watch more than one episode

of everybody loves Raymond. I I don't find Anything

about that show funny the his parents are annoying.

The only person the only character I even like

on that show is his brother Yeah, yeah his wife's

annoying as all hell and He's just not funny

to me. I just don't like it. I can't get into

it I've tried because it always comes on after

King of Queens and it's just nowhere near as

good. Um When everyone loves Raymond I like The

sarcastic bits with the parents But the whole

war between the wife and the mother That was

annoying The interaction between him and his

wife is annoying. Yeah, I Mean, I don't like

how it portrays men either. I don't know. Yeah,

no, I mean But you know, Brad Garrett's care

Robert is Again, I don't have any we don't have

any information in front of us about these shows

We're just talking about them off memory. I believe

he was a cop I think so too the character of

Robert They portrayed him as a dumbass and The

one when I really started to like Robert was

when he and Amy started dating and that whole

character development happened But yeah, Ray

his wife They just yeah and the parents I like

I do like the parents even though the mother

is a little The father was I mean Peter Boyle.

You can't say He's all right, but just together

together. They're not my favorite parents, but

I don't mind them alone Another one that's completely

popular and obviously has a cult following from

the female audiences sex in the city Oh god,

thank you for bringing that up. I was gonna put

that on my list. Fucking can't stand that show.

But it has a male counterpart! Men of a certain

age, which actually stars Ray Romano! It does.

We're going full circle here. But no, I just...

Something about Sex and the City, it's just...

Probably because some of the people I know that

watch it are... Try to like... Watching it with

a female is a mistake. Because they think it

gives them license... to be like holier than

thou and like oh that show is so right and that's

how guys are and blah blah blah blah blah and

oh it's so funny let's make fun of male the male

species non -stop I don't know I just don't like

it it's over it's over dramatic it's over dramatic

I don't like Sarah Jessica Parker either I don't

like her either the brunette's cute though whatever

her name is I think that's my other problem is

I don't find any of them attractive except for

the the brunette yeah I don't know so even I

mean the reason I said I don't find any of them

attractive because then even if the show is bad

I might still be able to watch it but that right

so I still can't watch it and then I have one

more for sitcom comedy maybe my least favorite

show of all time married with children really

I cannot fucking stand that show really I just

can't stand it I it's Don't like any of the characters

even though the chicks hot and I'm talking about

the daughter not the mom But it's just Yeah,

I can't stand it. I could go into detail, but

I don't want to piss people off See I grew up

watching that show so it's like they it's like

they saw Roseanne and we're like how can we make

it even more crude and rude and disgusting Wait

a minute did Roseanne come out before married

or yeah, well way before The one thing you get

to give to Maryland children, though, is that

it's on Fox. When Fox is desperate. No, no, no.

This is before Fox got, I mean, Fox is getting

desperate. Fox was desperate at the beginning

to try to compete with all of them. So they're

like, let's throw out the most crass. I don't

know. I just don't, I just, ah. All right. More

parents I hate. So you got any reality shows

from the 90s? No, I couldn't even really come

up with too many reality shows that had started.

Obviously, 2000s has been the decade of reality

shows, so I'm going to give the 90s a pass on

that. I will say once the real world started,

there are certain seasons I can watch only because

they're in cities that I like, like the Boston

season, the New Orleans season, I like that cast.

The New York, the back of New York season, even

though it produced The Miz. Oh, God, don't. See,

I don't watch. I've never really watched The

Real World or The Road Rules, but I will admit

that the challenge shows are a guilty pleasure

of mine. See, I hate those. I love the challenge

shows. I hate the challenge shows. I love the

challenge shows. I would be on one of those in

a minute. I've got a number of other stuff, and

I'm going to actually start with Goosebumps.

Do children like to really be scared like this?

Only in Are You Afraid of the Dark? Well, yeah,

but that's Nikola. Okay, my real hatred of Goosebumps

comes from... Arl Stein is an amazing author.

I first read his Fear Street series of books.

And then he started doing his Goosebumps books.

And I read several different Goosebumps books,

and I'm like, wait, this is complete 180 of Fear

Street Saga's books. And I get that he was going

for, you know, maybe a little bit younger audience,

maybe a different genre. When the television

series happened, I was like, really? They're

making a television series out of these books.

I would love to have seen a Fear Street. TV series.

But yeah, Goosebumps is just something I cannot

watch and I don't get the popularity behind it.

This is probably the only, I think, let me double

check my list to make sure. Yeah, this is the

only type of news show that I have listed The

View. I've tried like if they like it if they're

the only ones in the morning show circuit that

have a certain get like if they're the only ones

that have Say Tom Cruise or Blake Lively or you

know what if they're the only ones in the morning

show circuit that have that guest I would watch

the show but just hearing them go on the view

is Essentially the news version of sex in the

city It's pretty terrible. Although I like whoopie

and I like when she pisses people off The only

time I ever watch The View is if I've heard about

some type of controversy or some type of blow

up and then I just YouTube it. Yeah. See, I haven't

watched it really. I think I've watched Whoopi's

premiere, but I haven't watched it since then.

But I used to watch it before Whoopi came on,

so like all the other first chairs or whatever

the hell they call them. I used to watch when

Meredith Riera was on there. I can't watch The

View. Well, why you need to stick to your interviews

and she doesn't even need to do that really Well

And here's where I get back into the the other

talk show god, oh wait Ricky Lake, okay. Give

me a fucking break. That was pretty disturbing.

I mean seriously Yeah, um Mori povich almost

all talk shows I know. I mean, Mori Povich, alls

it is is, oh my god, who's my daddy this week?

Seriously, every single fucking episode he does

is about DNA testing, blah, blah, blah, blah.

He has done a couple episodes like, like, bad

kids need to go to boot camp, blah, blah, blah,

and get, you know. But other than that, I just

cannot stand Mori Povich. No, I agree with you

there. And the end -all, be -all, king of horrible,

horrible talk shows. You already know I hope

you already know I'm gonna be the one I think

it is and you're a moron for saying what you're

about to say. Oh Really? You like Jerry Springer?

Okay, good. I'm so glad you said that I thought

you're gonna say something else. I'm not even

gonna go there. No, what'd you think I was gonna

say? Nope, not gonna be mentioned. I'm so glad

you said Jerry Springer cuz I was gonna add that

to my list now see Jerry in the beginning he

had a choice between an actual talk show like

what Oprah or Donahue was. Or he could do entertainment.

I equal the Jerry Springer show, and I know it's

going to be bad, but the WWE, because the WWE

had a choice. Do we make this all about sports

or do we make it about entertainment? Let's call

it sports entertainment and do both. Jerry Springer

had a choice between doing actual topics and...

Oh my god, my girlfriend of five years is actually

a man. Or I've been cheating on you with your

mother or I've been cheating on you with your

best friend. Oh god. It's a fucking nightmare.

I gotta throw in Divorce Court and Judge Alex

in there, too The only two judge shows outside

of the outside of the people people's court and

I'm talking about the judge Waffner days of the

people's court I like the chick. I like the chick.

Yeah, what is it? Marilyn I can't remember her

name. I forget her name. The only two - Marilyn

Milian. Yeah. The only two court shows I can

actually watch and get a decent laugh or just

be like, oh my God, what the hell, is Judge Joe

Brown and Judge Judy. Other than that, all other

court shows besides The People's Court and those

two shows I just mentioned, all other court shows

- I think your world just fell apart. Suck Yeah,

I can watch judge math as occasionally, but I

can't watch any of those judge shows nowadays

I used to be able to watch the people's court

and I watched judge Judy until she pissed me

off cuz sometimes she just doesn't listen and

she makes over mine too quickly, but uh Judge

shows in general are pretty horrible. But yeah,

some are way worse than others. Yes. They are

Do you have any other other type of? Okay, so

One is the man show Oh, yeah. On Comedy Central.

Yeah. The man show with Jimmy Kimmel and all

that was just, like, that represents the types

of people that I wanted to kill in high school.

I will say this. The only time I've ever enjoyed

watching Jimmy Kimmel in anything was when he

was the, quote unquote, host of Win Ben Stein's

movie. Yeah. But the man show, I mean, that's

just the type of guy that nobody should like.

The type of guy that likes the man show. No girl

should date the types of guys that watch the

man show. No guy should be friends with guys

that like the man show. It's terrible. And then

the other one, and this, if they did it right,

is a great concept, and I realize why it's been

around for decades and decades and decades, and

it could be funny, and it could be great, but

they fucking ruin it in every incarnation, and

that's any of the America's Funniest Home Video

type shows. They ruin it by giving hosts shitty

lines to read. I will agree and disagree with

you on this one. I don't even know if the people

that we're hosting could have been funny if they

would have been allowed to make up their own

shit. But the crap they had to read and the jokes

that they had to tell, Bob Saget sounded like

a faggot. I'm sorry. And I apologize for the

racial or the not the racial the gay slur there,

but a Bob Saget was terrible on there See I liked

Bob Saget on there Of course when I watched it

was in its infancy when Bob was do I watched

it when when full house premiered So I was like

seven or eight years old when I would watch America's

funniest home videos I liked it then as a kid

because obviously I didn't know any better. Um,

Can I go back? Tom Bertrand's terrible See, I

like Tom Bergeron. Daisy Fuentes and John Foolsong,

or whatever. Oh, God. No, no, no. All right.

All right. That I will give you. I don't hate

these people. I hate them on the s - No, no,

no. I understand that. But out of the people

that you just listed, the only two that I like...

are Saget and Bergeron because I liked Bergeron

on the new Hollywood Squares and all that stuff.

I like him, but my problem is the stupid jokes

they have to tell. Then they interview people

that are pointless interviews and they ask them

stupid questions that they don't even answer

and then the videos that win aren't even the

funniest videos they show. The videos that win

are stupid usually and I didn't realize that

Jess Harnell is now the narrator for that show.

Oh, really? See, I haven't, like, I haven't want,

like... Since 98, apparently. Is, is Tom still

doing the hosting? Yeah, 2001 to present. Okay.

Yeah. See, I, I haven't want, like, I'll catch

it in syndication every now and then, but I haven't,

like, actively watched AFV for years. It just

could be so much better done. Nah. The idea of

funny home videos is funny. I mean, look at all

the YouTube shit and all that, that's just hilarious

and, and stuff like that and, like, all the different...

shows that spoof off of videos they find on the

internet and whatnot like but this is just so

stupid cheesy i don't even understand how anybody

finds a single joke that any of these hosts say

as funny i just don't get it so yeah that's my

rant on afv as they like to call it in these

cool days i'm done with the 90s I used to be

a spy until we got a burn notice on you. You're

blacklisted. When you're burned, you've got nothing.

No cash, no credit, no job history. You're stuck

in whatever city they decide to dump you in.

Now it is time for the 2000s. I'm gonna start

this one off with the action dramas. I only have

two listed. There have been a number of superhero

live -action shows over the years. Some better

than others. One of the ones I think is better

and one of the ones that isn't on my list As

worse because I did actually like this show as

a show called mutant X I Thought it was a nice

spin on the whole x -men thing and this that

nearly everything else plus the blonde chick

that's on there was hot Victoria Webster, I believe

her name was or so I have been mine might be

I'll look it up later But the one show I believe

in 2006 2005 somewhere around there that came

on on NBC That just I thought was just a complete

copycat of everything that came before it None

of the characters to me felt I didn't attune

to any of the characters I didn't find any of

the females that attractive even though I'm sure

they are heroes. I hate heroes I've never seen

it, but I've heard it was good You know people

say season one and season the problem with heroes

This is a problem with broadcast television in

general these days it constantly had issues of

When it was gonna get picked up when it was it's

like they had the first season they had like

season two and then like season three part one

season season three part It was like it ended

up kind of like as one of these like summer shows.

Oh, let's bring it back for a summer season and

it just I just don't like that show. That show

is just horrible. So you don't like it? No. The

other one, even though it has Bruce Campbell

in it, and I absolutely love him as an actor,

and I really like his character in the show,

but the show in general. Burn notice. I hate

the character of Michael Weston. Just the arrogance

of the character. I don't like the guy that plays

him. just like the whole point of burn notice

is he was a CIA agent and somebody burned him

so the whole first season he has to find someone

the the person that burned him okay so if you've

finished if you accomplish that goal by the end

of the first season why is the show continuing

now I haven't watched all of burn notice I've

seen maybe 10 episodes total out of its four

five six sixty however long it's been on and

i just cannot take it seriously i i just cannot

bring myself to watch it i will say though when

they did do this year they did uh... like uh...

a special feature movie with uh... bruce campbell's

character sam ax it was burned notice the fall

of sam ax it was centered on how sam got to be

in miami with michael and i like that i wish

that the actual show burn notice was based on

Sam Axe more so than Michael Weston. That's really

all I have listed, I'm sure. I'm sure there are

others in action dramas, but that was all that

I had listed. So what do you have for action

drama in 2000? I just got two. Again, bring on

the hate mail. But the main one that everybody

loves that I can't stand is House. I'm right

up there with you. I hate that show. I hate it

with a passion. I just don't get it. Maybe I

just... The show has its own fucking video game.

It's just beyond stupid to me. And the other

one that's even more beyond stupid and got weirder

as the episodes went by and I will admit that

I watched most of season one only because I had

a female... that I was interested in that would

come over to my house because she was a huge

American Idol fan. And this show would come on

after it. And that was Fringe. And... Everybody

loves Fringe and I just don't get it. I watched

the first year and it was really weird and then

it just got weirder and weirder and weirder and

I don't get how people can like this stuff that

makes absolutely like... It must... A show like

Fringe has to be the easiest show to write for

in the world. Because you can just make up the

most ridiculously impossible, far -fetched shit,

and it fits right in. Like, Fringe and House,

I just don't get it. I'm sorry, people, I don't

get it. That's all I got for action or drama.

Yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else in

the 2000s. Not really. So moving into sitcoms

and comedies. For me, it's NBC and USA All the

Way. The Office. from NBC wow I first of all

I don't get the whole what's the point of the

damn show they're in an office it is it just

like oh hey this is our adventures in our workplace

type I just don't get it I get that it's not

for everybody and it's not one of my favorite

shows but I do understand why people like it

I don't know I mean, The Office, to me, from

what I've seen of it, it's like they tried to

make an office space television show. You just

don't like Steve Carell, admit it. Well, okay,

well, that's true. But I just, him and comedians

like him, I don't like their brand of comedy.

I think there's only one thing out of the entire,

out of his entire filmography that I actually

liked him in, which was Despicable Me. And they're

coming out with a sequel, anyway. Are they so

I'm so happy No, no, sir. Are they coming out

with this 2013? Oh I gotta go search that out.

That's it. I'm leaving by They're gonna do some

more minion movies to spook to oh hell yes, I

bet up in movies anyway What else you got for

sitcoms? Psych I get that 100 % it's not on my

list, but I understand 100 % You have a guy.

You have two guys. One is a cop, the other one

is pretending to be a cop. Yeah. I... I get it.

I just don't fucking get it. Any other ones?

Yeah. Well, you collect yourself. Royal Pains.

I've never seen that one. Royal basically takes

psych, but... Take take house and psych and take

the cops out of it. Okay. Mm -hmm. It's So you're

gonna be all right there Royal pains is He's

the the last traveling doctor. He's the last

doctor that makes house calls and he'll make

them anywhere He will treat he doesn't the lead

character doesn't believe in working in hospitals.

Gosh. At all. So it's almost like if you made

House, the character of House, more funny and

took him out of the hospital. So that's it for

me for sitcoms. What about you? Oh, Lord. Well,

I'll start with the one that I mentioned in last

week or last episode, and that is Blue Mountain

State. Blue Mountain State should have never

got. I wonder if there's somebody on Twitter

that said they liked it. Someone on the Geekcast

Radio website, actually, I think. But no, Blue

Mountain State should have never got past whoever

shows have to get passed by to get on the air.

There should have been some type of board of

directors or some type of meeting where that

somehow didn't pass. That shows an abomination

to television. My name is Earl. Yeah. Don't like

it at all. don't find it funny at all. Yeah,

I will agree with you. And sorry, this is the

only time we have to record this episode and

yes, there is a thunderstorm. I like it because

it's the worst shows and it's thundering. Exactly.

I timed this perfectly. And I'm hoping that thunderstorm

comes our way because we need it. No, actually

you don't. Fuck the 120 degree heat index. Well,

actually you don't because the state of Illinois

is like the state with the worst luck as far

as having power outages. That's true. What were

we talking about? My name is Earl. My name is

Earl. Okay, I like Jason Lee and his Kevin Smith

movies that he's done. I don't mind the characters

he portrayed in that, but yeah, Jason Lee and

My Name is Earl, like, oh, yeah. This is one

for me that's like Everybody Loves Raymond. I've

tried multiple times. I've tried like two or

three times to watch an episode and... find it

funny and get into it and I just can't do it.

I think the whole premise of the show again is

he's trying to make up for everything he's wronged

people with. Yeah. Or something like that. It's

just too redneck for me, I guess. Yeah. And then

the other two are super popular again. One of

them, Reno 911. I don't get that show. I just

don't get it. I've never been a fan of really

Super Troopers or Reno 9 -1 -1 or... Now Super

Troopers, I love... Super Troopers is funnier

than Reno 9 -1 -1. Yeah, I love Super Troopers.

Maybe it's because my dad was a cop when I was

growing up that I don't necessarily like just

shows that riff on cops non -stop, but I also

don't find it that funny. It's just stupid humor

and I'm not a big fan of stupid humor. Even though

I know Larry Kenny's daughter's in it and she's

cool. And the other one this if it's not married

with children as my least favorite show of all

time and then it's this one and that is scrubs

I fucking hate that show That show is beyond

stupid I'm sorry. Do you like the show because

I might have to come hit you a Little but go

on scrubs is not something Yes, it is. It's it's

in syndication now. It's over. It's not running

new episodes. At least I don't think it is anymore.

I think it canceled Scrubs is a hit or miss for

me. It just depends. I like a lot of the actors

in the show. I Like the lead guy. I like Donald

Faison is it Donald Faison is hilarious. Donald

Faison is the is Turk I like him as an actor.

They might be good actors, but on the series,

they're just stupid. Everybody's stupid. It's

stupid. That's the only word I can come up with.

Just stupid. And then one that actually didn't

make it, thank God, past I don't think hardly

any episodes, was the Geico caveman sitcom. Oh

God, I didn't even pay attention to that. That

was pretty terrible. I mean I didn't watch it,

but I couldn't have even wouldn't have ever even

considered watching that I'm just waiting for

them to give oh I'd watch it if it was a gecko.

Oh, man No, no best idea ever take the gecko

Take the general from general insurer Take all

the mascots from all the insurance commercials

flow everybody take all these people put them

into one fucking show and see what happens except

for the caveman Well, yeah, the cavemen suck

so that's all I have for my sitcoms All right

Now Reality shows now first of all we got to

preface this that if we really wanted to be Realistic

to shows we can't stand reality wise in the 2000s.

We could be here all day We could so we tried

to narrow it down. At least I tried to narrow

it down I only have five we got three I only

have five and I narrowed it down to ones that

I just cannot watch. Okay um back in 2000 the

year 2000 after the y2k thing died down all that

stuff and we all survived yes reality tv hit

with a vengeance in 1947 candid camera started

reality television every reality tv series since

1947 owes something to candid fucking camera

um but in 2000 i had a choice I could either

watch a show that was outdoors on an island with

people eating nothing but bugs, or I could watch

a show with people indoors that have actual food

but if they fail something they have to eat slop.

Of course I'm talking about Survivor and Big

Brother. I watched the first season of Survivor.

That was it. I was done. Just fucking done. I

don't like the show, I don't get why people are

so engrossed and made the damn thing popular.

I think the only other time that I've watched

it was when the whole Boston Rob, Amber thing

about them falling in love on the show, and the

only reason why I even watched it then was because

the guy was from fucking Boston. Other than that,

Survivor, no, I hate that show. I don't hate

it, but I'll let you hate your bugs So I'm taking

it that you don't like fear factor either Okay,

well I'll jump to that then yes fear factor.

No your factor The only good thing about fear

factor is the non eating challenges the only

good thing about fear factor is folks It's coming

back Oh God Joe Rogan is coming back, and they're

doing more fear factor Wow is it gonna be on

NBC again? I don't know, but I'm excited My only

question was the contestants and the outfits

they had to wear. Oh my god. Anyway. The Jersey

Shore. Why did this even get created? I mean

seriously. The people on that show basically

have no redeeming qualities and all they're doing

is teaching the masses of high school and college

age people to be complete losers. To not work

to not take your job serious to have the only

things that you're concerned about tanning and

your self -image Drinking and sleeping with as

many people as you can like that's great positive

messages We're putting out there for the youth

and the only and what really pisses me off with

the popularity of how bad it is and it becomes

popular What pisses me off about this is that

the Jersey Shore infects other things for WrestleMania

this year? They had a match between fucking Snooki

and like three or four other WWE stars. I'm like,

wait, what? Yeah. And Mike, the situation just

proved how much of a moron he was on the Donald

Trump roast. What a fucking joke. He's my least

favorite person on that whole group. Who? Mike,

the situation, whatever you want to call him.

Wow, I'm really loving this score. But I can

high 100 % agree and support your Jersey Shore

hate. The next one is actually the first part

of the show and then it's spin -off. The Bachelor

slash Bachelorette. Slash Joe Millionaire slash

every other show that's been like that. Oh my

god. The whole concept is fucked up, first of

all. Alright, yeah. I'll let you talk about the

concept here in a second. The only good thing

about this show is I like Chris Harrison, the

host, because he has gone on to do a lot of the

TV Guide and channel stuff. He is the narrator

of Design Challenge on HGTV. The hosts for a

lot of these shows are good. Yeah. Jeff Proffs

even from Survivor, TJ Lavin from the, I know

you don't like the challenges, but he's a great

host. Like a lot of these hosts are actually

really good. Yeah. Sorry. But the Bachelor Bachelorette,

the premise of this, this whole falling in love

thing, choosing out of 25 million, blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah, whatever. And then they're

surprised when it doesn't work out. Yeah, that's

the fucked up thing. They got a divorce or they

broke up. Oh my God, really? You didn't see that

coming? Sorry. No, you're right. I mean, that's

the main reason why I hate the show is because

they go through all this stuff. And the thing

of it is, is what I've noticed about television

shows like this, The Bachelor can be put into

this, Real World can be put into this type of

thing. They filmed the show like six months to

a year prior before it airs. So by the time it's

airing, you're like, oh, what really happened

blah, blah, blah, blah here? Well, now that the

show's over, blah, blah, blah, oh, wait, but

it's not over being aired on TV. So we can't

say, oh, my fucking God. My, I don't know. First

of all, that's not how relationships and how

love works, people. And second of all, even if

it does somehow think even you think you have

a connection, you're living in a situation that

is not going to be like your real life. You're

living. TV show where stuff is provided for you

where cameras are on all the time Don't expect

things to be the exact same when the cameras

get shut off and all sudden nothing is being

provided Like I'm sorry. The concept is flawed

I could have listed every single showed like

that because there's been about a million of

them whether it's rock of love or whether it's

flavor flavor flavor or all of them. I mean it's

so stupid like you can't just select these like

twenty or thirty people and just expect to fall

in love with one of them. Now, I did like Rock

of Love. It was entertaining but it's still like

stupid. It can be a guilty pleasure but the mass

amount of those exact same types of shows is

overwhelming. Oh yeah, there's so much snow.

And the final one from my reality shows. Actually

launched someone into superstardom as far as

the host And it has the single worst judge in

reality television history I only watched really

the first season because I liked The person that

won and I like the runner -up as well American

Idol say I love me American Idol until this year

I am so like I... The voting system is fucked

up beyond belief, but... Oh, you have no idea,

I mean that's... That is the one exceptional,

that is the worst host in reality TV. Yeah, Simon

Cowell is a jackass. I like Simon Cowell, but

Ryan Seacrest is... That's what I mean about,

about... No, I was saying host -wise. Ryan Seacrest

is terrible. Let's talk about the hosts, alright?

Most people don't know this. Oh, they sure do

by now, I'm sure. Well, most people won't. Some

people might, but most people that haven't been

paying attention to Idol since day one. Originally,

American Idol had two hosts. We had Ryan Seacrest

and Brian Dunkleman. Brian Dunkleman has faded

into obscurity, something I wish Charlie Sheen

would do. Ryan Seacrest, on his own, he's okay.

He's a jackass on the show. On the show, he's

kind of a jackass. Outside of American Idol,

he's alright. I can't stand Simon Cowell. I love

Simon Cowell. I can't stand Paula Abdul and a

couple other people and some of the other judges

they have, but my main problem is the judging

system and the way the voting goes and it's fucked

people over so many times that should have won

or should have got farther and this year I had

enough and I stopped watching it. Probably for

good. I will say the whole judge changing thing

over this year from... Paul Abdul and Simon Cowell

to Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler. I didn't

mind them. I said I didn't mind them. No, I thought

it was a great improvement. I know Simon Cowell

was a music producer. Obviously, Paul Abdul is

an artist. Randy Jackson was a producer slash

artist. He played with Journey for a while, stuff

like that, back in the 80s. much preferred Lopez

and Tyler over Calvin and Abdul. Yeah, the judges

didn't ruin it for me. It's the voting system

that did. Yeah, yeah. It did produce a couple

of artists that I do like, like Kelly Clarkson,

like Daughtry, Carrie Underwood here and there.

I don't like all of her stuff. I like maybe one

or two songs. But just really for me, like some

of the reality show stuff, it's how popular it

gets and how obsessive people get. I mean, you

know, I know I have my fandoms and I know I'm

obsessive about them, but this goes beyond that.

I mean, this is like just way out there. Yeah.

So what about you? What do you have for your

reality? I picked two basically just because

of the concept of them. First of all, my super

sweet 16 Just because all it is is a display

of spoiled fucking bitches, brats, excuse me,

spoiled brats that have way more than any kid

at their age ever should have and they're planning

and bitching about how great of a sweet 16 party

they can have. Like, this is why people hate

America. Like, you've gotta be fucking kidding

me, and we're gonna give it a TV show so everybody

can see them plan this ridiculously stupid waste

-of -money party. Anyways. Um, the materialistic

part of that's why I picked that one. And then,

this other one just is bizarre beyond belief,

and that's Paris Hilton's new best friend forever.

Oh god. Because I refuse to say the letters.

We could be here all night talking about - But

I mean, really? Really? You're gonna... have

a show to find your best friend? That's worse

than trying to have a show to find your dating

relationship or whatever like yeah Give me a

fucking break and the people that were on that

show They have no dignity whatsoever left Like

they're the bottom of the barrel And the third

one I really wish I didn't have to put this show

on my list because I'm such a fan of the original

version of this but the reboot of American gladiators

Was really bad. Yeah, I liked it though. I thought

it was kind of cool. They could have done it

so much better They had Hulk Hogan last that

long. So I mean they had Hulk Hogan They had

some crazy gladiators, but it just wasn't anywhere

near the same as the original one And I don't

know why You didn't like the gladiators like

you did in the original one I wanted to love

that show. I was so pumped that they were coming

back And to me it just fell flat on its face.

Now, getting into the other category, you and

I are going to alternate on this. I only got

one. Okay, well that's good. I'm going to start

with the Oprah copycat of Dr. Phil. That's pretty

bad. Oh my god. I agree. I would rather listen

to 20 hours of Loveline. Loveline's great, come

on. No, no, that's what I'm saying! I would rather

listen to 20 hours of Loveline than watch this

show. Dr. Drew's the man. That's right, Dr. Drew

is the man. This guy, oh my god, he is an Oprah

by -product, and that's all he is, and it's just

the way that, like... I know, because I've been

in therapy in my lifetime at some point or another.

Therapists are not like this. And I know it's

a TV show and they're playing it up, blah, blah,

blah. But I just don't get why people would go

to, first of all, a television show to get help.

I mean, if you're having a serious mental breakdown,

you need to call your family. You need to check

yourself into the hospital. You don't need to

go on fucking television. Yeah. And it goes back

to what you said a second ago about the people

on the Paris Hilton show being the lowest bottom

feeder common denominator They're all half the

people that go on shows like this Jerry Springer

included. They're only there for the money Yeah,

they're only there to be on TV and for the money

and what yeah, and that's not good. That's us

They'll do whatever they're told that's what's

wrong with TVs now TV nowadays. It's the type

of people that would like stab someone in the

back as long as they got on TV. Yeah, pretty

much. They'll eat dog shit if you put them on

TV. So what is your one other show? My one other

one, besides Ryan Seacrest, probably my least

favorite person in showbiz or in the celebrity

arena and my least favorite late night show of

all time would be The Last Call with Carson Daly.

I fucking hate Carson Daly. Carson Daly needs

to go into a dark alley and get raped and killed.

I know you should never wish that on someone,

but he's just terrible. I didn't hate him as

much on TRL, but he's always been a douchebag.

He's just especially a douchebag on Last Colony.

He acts like he's like God's gift to everybody.

I can't stand him. What are you gonna say? This

transitions perfectly into my last choice. Oh,

God. And we are severely gonna disagree with

on this. Yeah, he's a moron, people. No, hold

on. I let you have your opinion. Let me have

mine, dammit. I'm gonna compose myself here.

Alright, uh... The Late Show. The Late Night

with Conan O 'Brien. This guy is the biggest

douchebag in Hollywood history. No, he's not.

That's such an overstatement. This guy is so...

Even if I didn't like him, that's a dumb statement.

This is the... Just the way he does his show.

The way he attempts to be funny and fails miserably.

Funniest late night show guy I've ever seen.

No, not at all. Not at all. I just, like, he

tries to, like, okay, all the late night people,

you know, make jokes and they have their monologues

or anything else. Conan has this weird thing

where he'll use the camera and, of course, Kevin

can't see me because I don't have my camera on,

but he'll use the camera and he'll like... oh

my god it's it's called it but it'll like show

the camera in his fucking face give me a fucking

break that is not fucking comedy you fucking

ass -hat he's hilarious no he's not he's he's

funnier than camel he's funnier than way funnier

in carson daily because it doesn't try to be

funny because at least he knows he's not uh...

he's funnier than i'd even put him up there is

funnier than one or letterman Not funnier than

Johnny Carson, but funnier than all the other

guys. No one is funnier than Johnny Carson. The

only person, no, I take that back. The only current

person that's funnier than Conan O 'Brien is

Jimmy Fallon. Now, this actually transitions

into a show topic that we'll be doing eventually.

I'm not exactly sure when it might be, episode

29 of GCR, where we do talk about each late night

show. Now, for me, I'll say this and I'll say

this again when we get to that topic. Nowadays,

for me, the only time I really watch any late

night show is if they have a musical guest that

I like, like say Nickelback's on Leno or Letterman

or say Holland Oates is on Leno or Letterman

or anything like that. You know when they show

up like it like if if Conan of course now I don't

watch him because he's on TBS and TBS sucks But

even when Conan was on NBC If he had a decent

musical guest I would just watch for that So

yeah, we will have that topic eventually Anything

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gonna be an evolution of how we've rented movies

How you watch a movie when all that's on TV is

the shit. We just talked about Yes, there you

go For now I am tf2 and Mike with optimus solo

from behind the voice actors calm Thank you for

listening until next time I can't do this all

on my own No, I know I'm no Superman I'm no Superman

like a horse and carriage this i tell you brother

you can't have one without the other love and

marriage love and marriage all this energy comes