Theater Gimmicks, 3D, and CGI in Film

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16. I am your host if you and Mike and joining

me is Steve Megatron Hello, hello And from the

lunch table Rebooted or the lunch room or whatever

the hell it's called Michael Powers. Hello Hello,

I mean if you want to call it the lunch table

this week. I don't know it's just Need to get

that art changed because it's a conflict of interest

Yeah, yeah, I'm working on it the guy they got

my artist his You can always have Steve make

something. His power cable broke on his laptop,

so he doesn't have access to his art tools to

draw anything. Well, you can always ask Steve

to make something for you, because he does art

all the time for us. Mine's more so digital.

I mean, if you don't mind that kind of thing,

I can do that, but... Have you want to if it

if it's infuriating enough to Mike and guess

we might I don't really care But I'm just saying

you change the name of the show yet. You still

have art that says the lunch table on it Yeah,

and I still have a Facebook page that says lunch

table I still have I still have a feed burner

feed that says the launch table So today we're

gonna be doing a discussion that's a topic that

Steve came up with feeder gimmicks and 3d versus

CGI so it wants to go first I do, because I just

want a clarification on something here, Steve.

Yes. Why are we why are we pitting CGI against

3D? I didn't say we were pitting them against

each other. I was just going to have that as

a discussion. Mike kind of inferred that. Oh,

OK. So is that why it's so it's not CGI versus

3D? No, it's just the talk of it within movies.

Like whether, you know, CGI and or 3D or both,

you know. Happen to do certain things to certain

movies Well, I think we can just go right up

front and say, you know pound sign just say no

to 3d Yes, I I don't really think there's a Just

I was trying to think on the way home what? None

of us are in favor of 3d. So no, just just say

no to 3d Yeah, so I was kind of thinking what

you could actually say. And the only thing I

could say is I don't personally, I don't care

for 3D and I don't think 3D is exactly universally

accessible. Because, I mean, obviously, obviously

blind people can't watch movies, but, you know,

now you've got people that can see that can't

properly see a 3D movie. You're limiting another.

portion of the population Yeah, I mean Me personally

I will never pay to see a 3d movie just because

one I mean I I saw one for free which is the

my buddy Valentine's but um It was pretty good

but the only bad thing was I had a group of 20

people in front of me that were mowing food like

they were Running a lawnmower over grass all

man and that every time somebody they saw a naked

body or somebody get slashed they just go whoo

-hoo -hoo -hoo like as loud as they could obnoxiously

and so that's why i will never go back to showcase

west again okay as the the the the thing the

the running day with with with me and uh... one

of the the co -host of the lunchroom jason is

that uh... I don't know if we've said it on any

of the recent broadcasts, but My Bloody Valentine

is probably the best 3D movie we have ever seen.

Oh yeah, I would say I like that one. I mean,

and the running joke is, I mean, there is no

better use for 3D than 3D boobs. But, you know,

whatever. It's just a running joke. I got double

vision. So yeah, 3D universally. Yeah, I I personally

don't care for it now I haven't heard anything

about for instance um I Didn't see Avatar in

the theater. I have watched it since it hit DVD

Have or have it I have watched it on DVD How

did you like that because I I watched it in 3d

and I thought that it would look much better

in 2d I? Honestly say I mean obviously it's come

a long way since the Beast Wars era of CGI But

um, I mean a long way they actually have like

realistic faces on them for the most part I mean

they imprint imprinted the actual actors and

actresses faces to the characters, but um At

the same time I didn't I don't know something

about it. Just it doesn't sit right with me.

I don't know it's It the movie looked good. I

mean, I'm not gonna deny that it was just I don't

know story was kind of it seemed like the same

type of shit that I see all the time so It didn't

catch my interest as much Yeah, that's pretty

much the way it was it was like it bad story

Or a generic story with really cool visuals Yeah,

I mean and it mostly what turned me off was some

of the unoriginal like names I mean he'd been

working on this ten years and then Unobtainium

I mean really? You've got the Navi and you know,

whatever the hell their planets name is and all

this other stuff and then you've got unobtainium

So yeah, I mean it's almost as bad as Iron Man

2 Him creating this new element and never saying

what it was Yeah, well, you know, you almost

wish they would have done that just never said

what it was So you just yeah the other way name

that you can't pronounce Yeah, whatever You know,

I guess my problem with I mean I'm not a fan

of 3d avatar was actually pretty cool in 3d.

That's the only way I was able to see it because

that's the only way our theater got it Well,

that's interesting but what I'm what I'm not

a fan of is the up conversion process Where the

film is shot and with a 2d camera and then it's

up converted to 3d And that's that's what's happening

with a lot of movies They're being you know,

they're they're being shot and then it's like

oh my god, this 3d stuff is so awesome So let's

up convert it I mean the hair the next two Harry

Potter movies are getting the 3d treatment the

upgrade treatment The last airbender is getting

upgraded to 3d The you know, the next three Marvel

movies will be in 3d It's too much of a gimmick.

It's overkill Well, that that's I think this

was set avatar apart for me. Is that avatar?

It wasn't a gimmick in avatar And in there are

movies where they don't where isn't a gimmick

like up, you know that the 3d in that was never

a gimmick You can do a 3d movie like okay. My

Bloody Valentine is a perfect example The scenes

where there's no one getting killed Like during

the day when they're just walking around. Yeah

those scenes to me those look great like Like,

you know, it's just there's no 3dness going on

but there's depth there's depth there Yeah And

that that is what you know, avatar Uh, that's

what avatar was about was just using 3d for that

kind of like for atmosphere rather than the oh

it's coming at you Yeah, I mean I mean, like

I said, I haven't seen Avatar in the theater

or in 3D, so I mean, I don't really know how

that whole experience was. But to me, like the

extent of 3D is like wearing those goofy glasses

that, I mean, like at the theater, they're, you

know, clear, which was nice. I mean, they, you

know, they're a lot different than when you,

per se, have a DVD or a Blu -ray at home and

have a green and a red. You know my piece really

sucks. Yep, thousands of dollars. You can get

the same glasses at home now, too Well, yeah,

I mean I I just they do me no good because I

don't have any equipment that actually uses them

but To me I I just I don't care enough about

3d I would never pay the extra like I hardly

buy or go to IMAX movies just because I'm not

willing to spend the extra to go see a movie

that to me isn't I mean it'd have to really really

be a good movie like for instance Star Trek I

saw that in IMAX because I mean granted it's

it's got a shitload of CGI in it and there was

no 3D but it was such an awesome monumental reboot

of the show or of the uh the movies and everything

that that was worth it to me to spend the extra

like I would do an IMAX before I do 3D I agree

with you there See I just say no to 3d yes 3d

no sucks and Much the more people that boycott

that the less they'll do it in the future to

all of the movies because pretty much Unless

you're doing an action movie or some kind of

a CGI movie where there's a lot of you know For

instance like a kiddie movie type thing or some

kind of a slasher. I mean something something

actually worth using it on like if you're going

to do it on like a drama or something else you're

just dumb well see that that okay like like i

said the i like i like the the the scenes in

in my bloody valentine where there wasn't anything

going on and and like all of avatar i would just

from the uh i gotta see this perspective i would

like to see a a drama like a This is just really

weird and it's the first thing that comes to

my mind when I think of drama, but I would like

to see an American beauty done in 3d Like just

just to see not to You know not to Just see what

see how what it would do Yeah, that would be

interesting to see I mean I don't know very far

but I mean then you're then you're out of the

realm of it being a gimmick And you're just going

there to watch this this movie unfold in front

of you and you actually feel like you're there

with the people, you know Yeah, now if they could

do something like that it might be worth going

to see So You wanna What did you have in mind

when you said gimmicks or was it was it something

that Mike added? It may have been something he

added. I don't remember for sure. I do know that

that's obviously one gimmick. IMAX to me, it

seems like they're trying to put a lot of movies

that honestly don't need IMAX. As a projectionist,

I totally agree with you on that There's there's

a lot of movies that they they don't even film

maybe but one scene two scenes Maybe at most

and they're real quick and then they put them

in IMAX and say oh We have an IMAX movie just

so that they can put it on the big screen Well,

actually there are only two movies in existence

that have done that and that is the Dark Knight

and revenge of the fallen Wow everything else

is just upscaled to You know this this this film

has been formatted to fit this screen nice and

and and so it's yeah, it's um So in that respect

there are a lot of Movies that I don't that show

up in IMAX that I don't really think are worth

it But there there are some like you said Star

Trek. I've definitely seen both Transformers

and IMAX I've seen you know, I saw the Dark Knight

I will see Tron in IMAX. Yeah, that to me, I

think that would be awesome and epic. Even if

that were in 3D, that would be a good one for

3D. It is in 3D. I've only seen the trailer for

it in 3D and it does look pretty epic. I mean,

but I don't want to see it because it's 3D. I

want to see it because it's like, and what's

really weird is that it's, this is just an aside

that that trailer for some reason, I don't know

what it is. Like I don't have an affinity for

Tron. You know, I've watched it like three times

and it is like one of the most awful movies ever.

Yes. You know, just the way it looks. Right.

But the idea is so dated. Yeah, exactly. The

idea is cool, though. It's kind of like the original

Matrix. Yeah. But and I like I have no connection

to this. Not like the first time I watched it

was like in 2004. You know, I was like 23. So

I didn't grow up with this. And I every time

I see the neutron trailer, like only in the theater,

though. Because the way that they mix the sound

for the trailer, I almost get emotional. For

some reason, tapping into this thing, it's kind

of like when you're... It's like the first time...

For me, it's like the first time I saw the first

Tomb Raider. Like, you know, I was a big fan

of the Tomb Raider show, the games, and I went

in and sat down in the theater for the first

Tomb Raider and those credits come up and you

see Laura, you see like Angelina Jolie, like

you see this character come to life, you know?

And you get like just a little bit emotional

because, you know, this is like great. And it's

kind of like, I get that same feeling when I

see the Tron trailer, but I don't understand

why. Yeah, the Tron trailer I did see that a

couple weeks ago. I think it was I think it was

with Iron Man 2 I'd seen it and It it left me

wanting to actually see it yeah, but there's

something about that music like it it In is that

the entire trailer? It's like the end part where

he's like where the Sun is just like dad. It's

been a long time Then you know you've got the

shot of Jeff Bridges eyes. I just like this like

urged like I have to see this movie just like

Washes over me. I'm like there's no fucking way

I'm missing this Yeah, that was pretty kick -ass

in itself all right um Want to talk CGI Sure

Why don't you leave this one since I don't know

exactly what you want to 3d is easy because no

one cares for it. Yeah, I was meaning most mostly

As far as Innovation in that since over the last

10 years well In my okay It The CGI is very tricky,

right? Good CGI, you can't tell. And bad CGI

is awful, right? Yes. I think at this point,

I will go out on a limb and say that Avatar is

probably like the pinnacle of CG. But if you

go back to if you go back to Jurassic Park That

shit still holds up. Yeah as for as old as it

is Yeah, it surprisingly does and you know, it

was a couple years ago. I watched a movie by

Stephen Summers call I think was called deep

rising Could be wrong. It was about a ship that

had just this this sea monster attacks this ship

Basically, it's your typical monster movie He

made this movie before he made The Mummy. Oh,

OK. And it was a CGI sea monster, tentacles and

everything. And it looked really good, like really,

really good. And then you move up to then you

get stuff like episodes, you know, Star Wars

episodes one, two and three, which in my opinion

look absolutely awful. Yeah, those movies were,

I don't know, they were too cartoony looking.

You could just tell everything was fake. You

know, I spent some time thinking about this alone

in my room, staring at a wall, pondering, how

could CGI, such rudimentary CGI look so good

in the mid -90s? Look. so awful at the you know

at the beginning of the 2000s and It finally

had dawned on me that The longer people started

using CGI the less they started making sets and

it was a whole it ended up being like Will drape

this entire set in blue or green? And we'll just

put the actors in there and they'll act against

nothing and if there's something that's taller

than them We'll put a tennis ball there And and

and we'll fill all that stuff in later. And what

that does is it leaves everything it leaves everything

up to your the the special effects studio which

you know, as everyone knows for Jurassic Park

and I believe deep rising and for especially

for the star wars movies is ilm which pretty

much does everything cgi well it now you get

the problem with that is you know that that's

why star wars looks so bad all right is because

everything was done in front of a blue screen

and this is made very apparent if you watch the

special features because all you're looking at

them filming stuff and they're just in front

of a green screen you have no idea what scene

it is but you know All this stuff gets added

in later if you go back to Jurassic Park They're

there they the actors are in those environments

like like the last scene in Like the last scene

in Jurassic Park where the wrappers in the kitchen.

Yeah That you know, those kids are in in the

kitchen, you know, they're they're you know,

they're they're rattling everything around They're

climbing in you know, the cut the the cupboards

and stuff trying to get away from a raptor. That's

not there, you know but They did such a good

job and the art team had, you know, light sources,

existing light sources to work with and everything

else that it just all came together. And Deep

Rising is the same way, right? You've got the

sea monster and the water on set is real. They

don't have to add that in with a cinematic. All

they had to do was if the tentacle pops out here,

we're just going to drop something in the water

that makes a really big wave. You know? Yeah.

And so you get practical effects with CG on real

sets. That locks it in. And then you get the

Star Wars movies. Like you said, it looks too

cartoony. And there's a couple scenes in Star

Wars where the actors look like they're fucking

floating. Because they couldn't get the light

right. They couldn't get the shadows right. And

then if you move forward If you if you go into

Lord of the Rings We have my personally we have

my favorite studio In special effects to you

in the world, which is wetta They have digital

effects and they also have a practical effects

house and I don't know if Either of you guys

have ever watched the like hours and hours of

special features that are on the Lord of the

Rings discs? Well, okay, I have I just haven't

watched it give the extended edition edition

stuff, I don't know Okay. Well I like I A couple

years ago while I was at work. I was trying to

find us something to watch because the TV season

was like over I'm like, well, I need something

to watch I watch there's like three commentary

tracks to each movie So I watched all of those

there's like hours of special features for each

movie and you know, there's I watched the movie

and I'm like I wonder if that's you know You

can't tell if you watch the Lord of the Rings

movies. You can't tell what's real and what's

CG you you can't and there I You watch the special

features for that stuff and the stuff that you

think is CG is a fucking model The towers They're

models. Huh. Helm's Deep is a model. That makes

sense, then they just scale it down. Yeah, I

was like, oh my god. And you know, there's like

the whole rumor that, you know, when Lucas visited

the set of Lord of the Rings. And you know he

you know the rumor remark is he's like you know

you guys can do this all with computers, right?

You know because he's looking at a bunch of miniatures

and stuff like that, and they're like well Why

you know what why would you do that you know

because it doesn't look? As good as computers

can look it doesn't you know it never looks as

good as real life. Yeah, and so you know you've

got you know what it comes out in the in the

running joke with all my friends is that Yeah,

the big one right now is with transformers. It's

if if Weta did transformers you would have fucking

walking robots You wouldn't have CGI robots you'd

have a fucking walking robot that actually transformed

into a truck Because that is Weta goes crazy

like that they I mean, I don't know If any of

you guys are familiar at all with halo in any

way shape or form, but they built An actual functioning

warthog from the game. They built it life -size

drivable on the lot Yeah, just because they're

with it, but I've never seen that Yeah, they

just want they just wanted they you know It was

when they're getting ready to make the movie

and because they were gonna be the special effects

house They wanted to show that they could make

this shit. So they went and made the fucking

warthog and When you have that kind of dedication

to your craft You know that that's what that's

what happens and you know ilm took a slump With

the star wars movies, and I don't think they

they didn't in my opinion. They did not recover

from that until the pirates movies Yeah, they

did really good with those films although you

could still tell a lot of it was you you could

still tell but then they and then they really

in my obviously we all know that the transformers

are computer generated and You can tell when

they're not I Don't really mind the computer

-generated of transferring like I've said before

the only problem I have with transformers is

obviously the director well, but what what what

I was gonna say though about transformers is

that ILM like they The one thing I will say about

Michael Bay, okay It this is the first like outside

of Pearl Harbor. I think this is the really the

most CGI He's done in a movie Mm -hmm, and I

feel like that his shooting style is not conducive

to CGI special effects. It's convinced. It's

it's it's can you know, it works really well

with practical special effects Explosions. Yeah,

exactly and what I like about Bay and what I

like that he made ILM work for every shot like

if you watch Transformers When you watch when

you watch it to do the commentary or something

watch the scenes with the robots in them like

the fight scenes but imagine Because because

they're there they're on those streets those

cars are there those cars are actually flipping

over You know stuff is exploding but watch that

scene and try to imagine your mind in your mind

those robots not being there While that scene

is being shot on location. Yeah, and you take

into account how the camera is moving that particular

scene and then you have to go then ILM has to

go back in and They have to put the robot in

that scene and they have to match his camera

That they had to work their asses off Like in

that it they they really They really stole it

stole it. They you know what I had the title

from Lord of the Rings for best special effects

and ILM just stole it back with transformers

And they stole it back with Star Trek. Yeah,

Star Trek, they definitely peaked on that. Did

you watch the special features for that? Yes.

Like they actually, in the computer, the model

was to scale. Oh, yeah, they had every little

nook and cranny detail. The Romulan ship was

seven miles long in the computer. Yeah, that

was just nuts Yeah, you know in it's almost like

they got what they got one up by wetta and they

got fucking scared and it's like, okay now we're

just gonna go now now we've got to do that and

I'm You know like that story came out the other

day where you know, the Hobbit lost its director

Hmm, I was just joking around about that because

I mean yeah that that that that was an actual

story But I had posted so I had added something

to the end of the of the Twitter update Because

I I've never gotten into Lord of the Rings. I've

tried reading the books I've seen the trailers

to the films I don't care and I'm sick of the

fucking hobbit that I'm sick of the fucking Lord

of the Rings the only Return is the return of

the fucking Jedi not of the fucking king Except

return of the king was before return of the Jedi

They were written in book form maybe but not

in movie form no But the the thing I was gonna

say now something about losing its director Oh,

yeah, that was like my, you know, I'm really

bummed. You know, the Hobbit is still going.

It's still going forward as soon as MGM works

their crap out. And I'm really hoping that Warner

Brothers just steps in and buys the rights to

the Hobbit outright. But. A loss of a director

is nothing compared to having to wait even longer

to see what what it does. I mean, the the the

the two the two most notable things I've seen

them do recently was District 9. Which is a visually

stunning movie when you realize how much that

movie was made for And then another one that

they did that I'm not sure if either of you have

seen is knowing That oh you mean the sequel the

next Don't see how it was a sequel the next it's

a joke because it's Nicolas Cage movie, and it's

pretty much the same basic plot line Aliens Wasn't

knowing the one where another one where he had

mind powers or something No, I don't think anyone

has mind powers and knowing the but the the there

was there you know there's two really big set

pieces and knowing one is a plane crash and one

is you know a subway accident and and then there's

the big set piece at the end of the movie where

the you know earth explodes and That plane crash

I've never seen a more dramatic scene in any

movie ever ever I was completely and utterly

blown away by this plane crash and then you know

the end of the world the end of the world scene

was just you know basically they just like just

just go just just go crazy unknowing yeah yeah

yeah i i seen that movie too it was it was just

nuts but the you know the the plane crash oh

it almost makes me never want to fly again thinking

about it Okay, I've talked enough somebody else

talk Well, we are in pretty much all three of

us agree just saying no to 3d like 3d was big

back in the 80s when it was like blue and red

glasses and Then it went away for 20 30 years

now. It's back now. They have actual glasses

I've seen people with these damn things. They

look like thick rimmed coke bottle sunglasses

and I'm thinking Why would you want to be seen

in your home or in a theater wearing those things?

Oh, God. I don't get the appeal of 3D at all

whatsoever. I hope to God it does not catch on.

I hope it dies in a fucking fire because if it

catches on and theaters think, oh, well, we can

just show all the movies in 3D, charge more.

And that'll be that. And it's like, if you really

want to see the damn film, you have to have these

fucking giant ass goggles. Well, I have news

for you. It's not going away. Yeah, there are

30 movies over the next, like, year that are

being done in 3D. Yeah, I know. And my theater

has, by the end of this month, my theater will

have seven. Half of its screens will be 3D. As

long as the A -Team is not in fucking 3D, I don't

care. Well, just wait. It'll come back out and

then something pisses me off about you know like

Shrek the fourth or Shrek the final chapter whatever

the fuck it's Whatever the fuck title they decide

on this week Between that and Toy Story 3 they

are re -releasing those DVDs with Their their

remastering them in 3d or whatever I'm thinking.

Oh fuck just another way for them to make more

fucking money Well, I'll never buy them well

true, but As far as my opinion on theater gimmicks

What what did you yeah, we were curious about

that topic Steve brought it up Steve said 3d

CGI and theater gimmicks basically theater gimmicks

to me is like if they have a contest or if They

pass out some sort of booklet or really honestly

the theater gimmicks to me are like all the giant

posters and billboards and advertisements. All

the cool stuff that I like to bring home? Yeah,

that has to go back to the studio eventually.

Oh, no, that stuff doesn't go back. I don't know

whoever told you that, but it doesn't go back.

People here have told me that it goes back to

the studio. Well, even I can tell you it doesn't

because my wife had a friend that used to work

for a local cinema that closed down a couple

years ago, and they used to get movie posters

and whatnot, just whatever they wanted. It was

a first come, first serve. If there's a poster

you want, Steve, I can probably get it for you.

I have the run of the posters at work, so. Nice.

But no, it's like, honestly, as far as movie

theaters go, the movie theater going experience

for me nowadays sucks. It depends. It depends

because there's theaters I can go to and then

there's theaters that I can't go to and I can't

go to certain ones because like for instance

I fully support NCG because I like the free refills.

I like being able to go and actually enjoy the

movie and not have any assholes interrupt it.

I like the environment. I like the fact that

it's clean. I like that I don't have to worry

for my life walking outside whether I'm going

to be shot. Well, thank you for the plug. I mean,

it's true. I personally hate going to the other

one that is remaining. I mean, granted, National

Amusements had like four or five different theaters

in the local area. National Amusements is actually

gone now. Oh, I know. It's Rave Productions that

owns Showcase cinemas. Yeah showcase West showcase

East closed a couple years back cinema 10 closed

a couple years back the Portland cinemas closed

a couple years back and then they're driving

closed But as far as theaters I I pretty much

don't like going to the other one just because

one it's it's in the Flynn area, which They've

actually had shootings at that theater as bad

as that is. I mean, they've put a lot of higher

regulations to prevent people from coming in

after certain times under a certain age, which

is cool, but that whole establishment is a rip

-off. And not to mention that they charge more

for dumb gimmicks in certain movies just because

they know that it will bring in more money. Yeah,

you know and that's the other thing that pisses

me off it takes 20 to 40 dollars to go to the

movies that should not Be we'll see this. This

is why I like NCG though. I mean another shameless

plug for Mike powers, you know employer, but

You can buy the overall experience I'm not talking

about just the CG in the film. I'm talking about

the ticket price Hang on, give him a second to

talk. I know what he's going to talk about. They

have combos, for instance, which if you go to

the other ones, they have these little dinky

-bagged popcorns and these drinks and they don't

let you have a refill. And then they charge you

double of what NCG charges. Whereas NCG charges

you, you can get a combo of a mixed match of

whatever. And no matter what size it is, you

get free refills. And they're a pretty reasonable

price even. I mean even on their small popcorn

bucket. It's still bigger than the large popcorn

bag at the other place. Yeah, and Like me I would

rather Go to the movie at NCG just for the popcorn

alone just for the fact that I actually get a

bucket Whereas the other place I got a bag and

it's out in ten minutes. I Thought I thought

you're gonna say something else I just love the

fact that you know prices are cheaper. I can

go see an IMAX movie in the same theater I thought

you were going to talk about the club card. Oh,

yeah. I forgot all about that. I do have the

club card. If you see a movie or go to the movies

enough, your 11th ticket is free. Yeah, but I'm

talking about just in general going to the movies.

No club. If they want to run specials, fine.

But a bag of Skittles and a box of Junior men's

Are gonna run you total of five six dollars just

for those two pieces of can't two things a candy

Where you can go to Kroger or whatever other

general store and you can get them for half of

that Let me grant you that but at the same time

I personally would rather have popcorn in a pop

during I know but I'm just using it as an example

as far as Overcharging and pricing and everything

else and you're any though Your example has been

it that is something that has been going on since

I was Since I was a kid like I know and that's

my main complaint about the movie -going experience

in general. I Just don't I I cannot tell you

the last time I got anything at the concession

stand I Know I mean nobody does and it pisses

me off that you know, you know some theaters

are like, oh We don't allow bags or we don't

allow this or we don't allow that or whatever

you know and i know there are plenty of ways

around it but but still it's like you know they're

all gung -ho about oh well if you can't buy here

you know honestly with the theater that's buying

well not really buy me but the theater that's

like two bus rides away from me when i go out

there you know they have this new little bistro

thing i'd much rather go in there order a you

know chicken sandwich and chips or what whatever

you know before the movie And this is the other

thing, I don't order drinks when I go to the

movie at all. I don't even bring my own drinks.

Because the whole point of going to the movie

is actually watch the movie, not drink half your

drink halfway through the film, have to get up

for, you know, 10, 15 minutes to go to the bathroom,

you know, and then come back and you've missed

part of the fucking movie. Makes no damn sense.

Well to me. I like getting the drink I like getting

the popcorn even if I know your bladders just

a little bit stronger than mine then I think

Steve is able to appreciate the movie going experience

as a whole as I mean I've been going to the movies

since I'm the first movie I ever saw in the theater

was Batman mask of the phantasm and ever what's

that snow white snow worst Disney film ever I

don't know if it was a rerelease or something,

but I that was the first one I saw The first

one I saw was the Batman the Mask of the Phantasm

and ever since then every time I go to the theater

It's like tradition to get a popcorn and a pop

even if I don't get the pop I have to get the

popcorn Otherwise, it's not fulfilling the entire

need of my movie going experience. It's not the

yeah, it's not the experience and To me, I've

always liked that. That's something I've always

liked to do and I still continue to do so. My

dad does that too. He'll all get tickets and

he'll just go to the concession stand and give

himself a bucket of popcorn and then come sit

down. Yeah. He'll finish it before the movie

starts and he won't go refill it, but he's had

his popcorn. Well, we go refill but well, yeah,

I mean I'm just saying like in his case it's

the same thing It's just he's had his fill, you

know, so he's I got my popcorn. I'm at the movies

Yep So we have anything else to say on this subject,

I know I think that about wraps it up Huh All

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