Star Trek 2009 and the Franchise Discussion

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one Hello and welcome to episode two of geek

cast radio. I'm your host Stephen C Phillips

and joining me is TFG one Mike. Hello Yes, we

just recorded our 25th part of 20 episode 25

of all things transformers So you guys can basically

listen to that to get all the current news, but

Steve is now married Happily hopefully He is

back from his honeymoon and geek cast radio is

going to be kicking off into high gear Yes, is

it all you have to say is yes One or more Yeah,

so for the most part Geek cast radio is completely

kicked off. We have a shitload of stuff going

on We've got just like like I said tons of content

going on Between shows, I think I'm editing like

five different shows right now sorry hey it's

alright at least tfg1's almost over yeah we have

yes we have i think six seven episodes left so

yeah i am so burnt out at this point on tfg1

as much as i love g1 i am just like so burnt

out I don't know if you've had a chance or if

you're waiting till you go to work on Monday

to listen to 17, but holy crap Interesting is

a very very loose term. Oh my god It was a good

episode though, I usually listen to them before

I put them online so they make sure I don't have

any clips that are completely trashed, although

the first episode clip on that one was messed

up, but that was beyond my fixing. Yes, yes.

But oh my god, the tangents and just the rants

and the going, oh my god, the goings on over

there. Oh lord. It's just crazy. And then of

course, Tooncast is taking off. We've already

got episode zero and episode one for Nintendo,

Toon's up. We're going to be recording episode

two for Animaniacs tomorrow evening. So that's

what's going on there. MWIRE still doesn't start

until next month, which I'm kind of glad it doesn't

because by that time, Tooncast should be into

its fifth or sixth episode, I think. Something

like that. I don't know. I'd have to look at

the schedule and I don't feel like doing that

right now. This show will be in episode three

by then. All things Transformers will be probably

around... 28 yeah something 27 28 somewhere around

there and along with Yes TFG one ends July 10th

2009 Actually it does end then but episode There

will be an episode 25 whenever both of us get

the Matrix of Leadership DVD set, because that's

what episode 25 will be. And then we're going

to be shifting the live action Transformers movies

over to MWIRE. And I did not add those in the

schedule yet. Actually, it's funny, MWIRE has

100 episodes listed already. Yeah, we've got

a show schedule listed all the way through 2011.

Yes, so MWIRE. Yeah, M wire is gonna be going

on for a long time I don't know about you, but

my plan for for this for geek cast radio And

originally we were gonna do it monthly like one

episode a month and then I started getting all

kinds of just general geek ideas in my head and

I started writing down episodes and I think with

TFG one ending we can the feasibly do two to

three episodes of this per month, because it

basically would be half an hour, hour discussion

on whatever topic that we decide. Obviously today

will be Star Trek, the new - Yes. Yes, you damn

Trekkie. I was into that before I ever killed

Transformers. I liked Batman too before I liked

Star Trek. Yeah, but Batman, well, I guess I

shouldn't say that. compared to Transformers

and Star Trek. Wait a minute, Dark Knight was

really awesome. No, that was. I gotta say that

I liked that one better than the first one. Okay,

I'm gonna say this and hopefully none of our

people that listen will take offense to this.

If they're comic book readers, Batman on, and

I was going to say this as a whole, Batman is

not as popular as Star Trek, but it actually

is. Batman on TV and movies doesn't have as major

a following as Star Trek does. No. But Batman

overall, I would say that they're about tied.

Well, Batman overall has a larger following because

it's been around since the beginning of time.

Star Trek's been around since the 60s. Yeah,

yeah, but you don't see a you don't see a Batman

convention every year. You know, I mean, man,

I've been to a Trek convention at one point.

Well, that must have been an experience. Yeah,

the only character they had on that was the guy

that John Delancey played Q. That was the only

one that was at the actual convention. Wow. But

I did get, I bought a picture of him and had

him autograph it of his in character. So that's

pretty cool. I got that around here somewhere.

I don't quite know where it's at at this point,

but I know it's like in a folder protected. But

yeah, I used to be a huge Trekkie. I had like

all the fricking figures. I had all the ships.

I had all the actual role playing devices. I

think like I don't have barely any of it left

anymore. I have some of the ships in my dad's

garage Which are I don't even know what condition

at this point Yes, but the only truck thing I

have currently with me is the first release of

the playmates And it came out in 94 is what it

says I got the original communicator which I

don't know if it'll record it but I don't know

if you heard that or not yeah I did it it should

come through so yeah it's uh I've had this sucker

forever and it's in pretty decent condition for

having been actually used at one point ah yes

they have a lot better ones now Yes, and actually

I sent this to you a while ago. This is from

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1 -7 -0 -1. This is Jenny banging her head on

the couch. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I sent that to you

a while ago. So. Yeah, I think I remember listening

to it, but that was a while ago. Yeah, and just

wow. As soon as I heard that, because I knew

you were a Trekkie, I was like, oh crap, Steve

has to hear this. I would never pay that, but

it would be awesome. Oh, yes, very much so. I

would use that. my computer chair exactly I would

sit in it and I would I would get the actual

like uniform I used to actually have it I did

I used to have the uniform although I wanted

the one from the the later movies yeah the the

red one but it was like 250 yeah I was like 12

when it was first for sale so I was like yeah

there's no way in hell I'm gonna end up with

that yeah no Wanted it. I still want it. I would

get it if somebody But if I could get it for

75 I Don't know Okay, I'm I'm not like a true

Trekkie like everybody else There are certain

things I do like about the entire series. I Think

what makes me mad for the most part is how rabid

the Star Trek fandom is and of course all fandoms

get that way but uh... yeah uh... i don't know

every time i see ads for a star trek movie i'm

like oh god now what like i was so against uh...

first contact Because it was right after generations

and I haven't even seen generations yet. I've

seen previews I think the only I think the only

I've really seen of generations is the the line

from Shatner I was saving the galaxy when your

grandfather was in diapers or some crap like

that And I don't even remember who the hell he

was talking to Okay, yes Jordy LaForge in the

next generation when he came out of his Yeah,

but yes But I was in Florida I was living in

Florida at some point when first contact came

out. It wasn't at 96 when that came out Yeah,

yeah, it was 96 or 97 I forget and friends of

mine had had free tickets to go see it, so I

went and saw it, and it's probably the only Star

Trek movie that I could actually sit through.

Other than this new one, these two are the only

ones that I really could really get into. The

ones that came in between Resurrection and Nemesis,

holy crap. Now, Insurrection, I fucking hate

it. Yeah, Insurrection. It should burn in hell.

It should not even be a movie. And if you've

noticed something, the original series, this

is what they encountered throughout the entire

movie, SOG, which we'll go more into that when

we actually do the review. The first movie, they

had the Vager, which is technically the beginning

of the board, like the very beginning. And then

the second one, they go back to Kahn, the third

movie, you got the Kleons, fourth movie. You

got that stupid whale thing with the big, like,

tube with the ball goes inside, like a little

kid's toy. That they have to defeat. The fifth

movie, they have to defeat God, Spock's half

-brother, and the Kleons. The sixth movie, the

Kleons. The seventh movie, a mad scientist, a

big rip through space, and the Kleons. The eighth

movie, the Borg, the ninth movie, whatever the

hell the... alien race was it likes to stretch

their face to make themselves And then they have

the tenth which is the Romulans and the Remans

which the Romulans have never been featured in

the movie and Then they totally fucked that and

then now that they got the Romulans again in

the original one Wait, I think they did a much

better job in this particular movie. Yeah, I

gotta say For everything that That is Star Trek

This new I guess you could call it a reboot to

the series because that's what it does And we're

not gonna actually I mean I understand the movies

already been released and half of the people

that wanted to see it have already seen it But

we're not gonna really go into spoilers. We'll

do that with the review with M wire but As far

as a reboot to where Star Trek the film franchise

could go now I think Abrams did an awesome job

doing that and this coming from the guy that

did Mission Impossible 3, Alias, and fucking

Felicity for Christ's sake. I mean, you know,

and it came out very, very well. It amazes me,

the actors, that they got to play the younger

versions because they pretty much nailed and

also made the roles there. Oh, hell yeah. Well,

they nailed the roles, but they also made the

roles their own. They didn't necessarily, while

they took inflections from the original cast

and characters, they didn't really... Well, they

embodied the original personality of them, but

because of differences in what happened in the

timeline, it altered their view of life, and

so things were different, so they could alter

parts of the characters. Right, exactly. Which

was an awesome way to reboot it and still use

the original exactly So now basically because

they've redone the entire timeline just from

before the original series Everything in the

future like some of the things are still destined

to happen such as like Khan Not necessarily getting

stranded on the planet, but the original encounter

The Borg are still gonna, you know all the same

little the the whale thing. I mean everything's

still gonna show up a lot of the same stuff,

but a lot of it's going to be different now.

Oh yeah, there's so many different outcomes.

Oh yeah, I mean, it's to go anywhere in this

saga. Especially with, and I'll go ahead and

give this spoiler out, I don't really care, especially

with Spock meeting Spock. There's so much, there's

so much crap that could happen from that, but

I understand why they did it. I understand that,

you know, Vulcan was destroyed. they're basically

the only two left um it's well they're not the

only two there's the council of the vulcans and

then there's uh spock said there's like 10 000

remaining vulcans well yeah but i mean they are

two out of so many you know or so few that are

left of of of vulcans i mean they're pretty much

an endangered species is what he said i believe

if i remember correctly um You know and I thought

that was kind of weird that they put that in

there, but I understand why they did for the

storyline Only reason why I think it's weird

is because of obviously time paradoxes Well,

yeah, that's true You know once I saw this of

course I saw it illegally. Thank you, Steve Shut

up you are in ATTF 24 so you can't go back and

deny it Yeah, well, I mean yeah, I did download

it for now but I am fully intending on buying

this as soon as It comes out on blu -ray. I'm

so picking it up. I have yeah, I will probably

get it on DVD I don't think I'll get it on blu

-ray cuz I don't do blue ray yet um but i will

probably pick it up on dvd um i wish i actually

had first contact on dvd but i don't um yeah

i mean overall i would rate it a nine out of

ten out of you know i don't want to give it a

full ten because i'm not a real trek fan but

um it's a really good Action movie for the summer

and I think it could give a lot of other movies

that are coming out June 16th a run for its money

What comes on June 16th? Oh wait, not 16th shit

24th. I was thinking about the the g1 DVD set

I'm at the 24th. I think I think those two are

gonna fight Between Transformers 2 and Star Trek.

They're gonna fight for box office supremacy

this summer And I have a feeling that Star Trek

will probably win out You never in my hopes of

it. I hope so although the third movie is still

coming for Transformers either way and for Star

Trek there's going to be a 12th movie in the

works already right now with the same writers

that did Transformers 1 & 2 that did this movie

are of Star Trek are going to be writing the

next Star Trek and The next Transformers. Yes

Yeah, I mean like I said and I mean I can't say

it enough, you know, one of the reasons why I'm

so Not really negative but just kind of like

shy away from Trek is because of the fandom that

Star Trek has and just the And I guess it like

I said before it could be said for any fandom

getting into chronology and all that stuff of

of the stories uh... as far as star trek on a

whole goes i'd love ds nine as an awesome series

i haven't seen all of it but whatever so that

i have seen of it i did like uh... i do like

next generation uh... although again i haven't

seen all of them i think one of the greatest

things about this new movie actually is like

i said before the inflections but also The way

that they delivered some of the lines like I

think I don't remember the guy's name, but the

guy that plays bones I mean That reminds me of

when I was watching the original series with

my dad on Saturday mornings or whatever when

I was a kid Or whenever the original series aired.

I don't remember I think it was in syndication

on Saturdays and Sundays in the early morning

I forget but the guy that played bones in this

it just it The the interaction between him and

Kirk is just hilarious Yeah, I I think it's you

know quite funny he did pretty much embody the

character that DeForest Kelly created it by the

way The actor's name is Carl. Okay? But yeah,

he he did a bang -up job on on it, but he also

I in an interview thing I read he Love the character

growing up. Yeah So that makes it even better

of when you're acting as the character that you

helped you know, or that You're portraying the

character that you loved as a child How it makes

you that much more? Oh, right? Believable when

you actually become that character, right exactly

Yeah, and I totally agree Mean just like if you

had somebody that Well like me I grew up with

Peter Cullen, but I could never actually Like

if there was to be like a like a human Transformers

movie, which I know that'll never happen I hope

it'll never happen, but if there was gonna be

like a like a kind of like that that Star Wars

fan film fanboys If there was To be something

like that and portraying Peter Cullen, I don't

think I could do it, but I would love to have

a Transformers fan, G1 fan like myself, do that.

But yeah, you're right. I mean, just having someone

that grew up doing or grew up watching a certain

thing for a certain franchise and then going

on to be able to play it is just awesome. Don't

really have anything else Since we're not actually

doing a full review of the movie No, but that's

fine because it's not actually meant to be a

yes But overall I can't wait to see what they

do with the series I believe it's going to be

kick -ass I Kind of like what they did with the

new enterprise because I was not particularly

fond of the yeah Because it just looked Yeah,

and I love the new one compared to it, but I

still my all -time favorite enterprise is 1701

a That will always be my and always has been

my favorite ship because the first Star Trek

movie I ever watched was Star Trek 6 the undiscovered

country Yes, and in my opinion of the original

the original right of The new set like with the

next generation in it. I would have to say it's

tied between seven and eight Seven was generations

and generations where Kurt died, but he was And

then the eight where it had the new enterprise.

Yeah the first contact. Yeah Nine I could flush

that one out the window and I should have tried

it just like I cut the very first Although that

one even puts this yeah Anyhow, I think we'll

just wrap this up because it's Yeah, I'd since

we since this is geek cast radio and is pretty

much all things geek I I do have to mention again.

I think I mentioned it in our early early clip

of 20 ATTF 25 I wish my friend would send me

that damn CD back already because I am I so wanted

to have that CD in hand when we talked to Stan

Bush in a few men in a little while because oh

my god she went to BotCon and she got him to

signed my original 1986 CD, Transformers, the

soundtrack. She actually got Stan and Vince to

sign it. Vince's signature is a little smudged,

but you can still make it out. But she actually

got Stan to personalize it. It says, to Mike,

all the best, Stan Bush. oh my god i nearly jizzed

in my pants when i saw the picture that she took

because it's it's it's just like total fangasm

and as soon as i get that cd i wrote it on the

on the pe boards as soon as i get that i'm going

out i'm finding a glass display case with a fucking

digital time lock which i know that doesn't exist

but whatever and i'm putting it in there as long

as it's dust proof and it will never come out

again Yeah, I mean that's that's gonna be going

into a major major display thing instead of just

being Collecting dust on my on my DVD shelf,

but oh my god I just when I first saw that picture

that she took I was like Holy crap because I

knew she told me she said she had him sign it

But she didn't tell me that she had him personalize

it I figured he just signed it and I will be

definitely thanking him for that when we talk

to him Yeah So Yeah, I think that's gonna do

it for geek cast radio episode 2 this has been

mostly a all Star Trek conversation I think other

than just the general stuff that we talked about

Yeah, I think so and I'm looking at Star Trek

costumes you have to pay bills you cannot buy

anything They're actually fucking she knew they're

probably knockoffs No, actually they're like

pretty authentic shit, but No, they've got Like

the original uniforms from the classic series

they've got the movie version they Got like everything

on up through Voyager. They've got like the Nero

costume they get which I would never buy They

got the Spock wig, I mean Freaking sparky shit

Which oh shit, they got a little cutest man Okay,

well Steve fanboys out on Star Trek costumes,

I think we're going to end episode 2 of geek

cast radio Yes So this is Freaking psychos. Yes,

psycho Steve new nickname I think I think that's

a discussion for I think that's a story for another

episode Might be a good that might be a good

ask a character bit for Megatron to to talk about

Oh Christ no, I'm giving you my ideas only If

anybody would like to hear new added features

to the GeekCast Radio, or GeekCast Radio, whatchamacallit,

the actual podcast, they can email either one

of us. You can do tfg1podcast at gmail .com to

get a hold of the mic. You can send me at podcast

at PredaconEmpire .com. Between the two of us

we will decide on new features to go on the show

It would be cool to have some new features to

actually throw in there I would also like to

say and I will say this on each of the Podcasts

themselves, but I just want to put a general

tune cast or M wire or beast unleashed Which

don't know when that's gonna start but any of

the other podcasts Right now we have two separate

email addresses for those. It's gcrntunecast

at gmail .com. And I believe it's, I think it's

TheBeastUnleashed or BeastUnleashedPodcast at

gmail .com. If you would like to email in for

those shows, please use those email addresses.

Just because I can check those on my iPhone fairly

frequently and I can forward them to Steve faster.

Because... The reason why I set up the TFG one

podcast at Gmail was to have a email specific

for that show But yeah, and I will mention that

in the other podcasts eventually so Yeah, I think

that's pretty much all the announcements I have

Yes, we actually have to end this because we

have to call Stan Bush in a half an hour So we

have crap that we have to do So I have been TFD1Mike

with Steve Slashmaker and this has been GeekCast

Radio episode 2 Star Trek. See you later!