Comedians We Love and Hate

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Radio. This is episode 79. I am your host TFJ

and Mike. Joining me this time around is Doug

Abel from Talking About My Generation. Hello,

sir. Hello. For those of you who don't know Doug,

he runs Talking About My Generation over at MyGenerationPodcast

.com. It's pretty much an amalgamation of everything

I've done in the past seven years. Yes, yes,

yes, I ripped you off, I'm sorry. No, no, no,

no. Imitation is the best form of flattery, right?

Of course, of course. No. It's always so funny

to me, folks, when podcasters come up to me now

after doing GCRN for six years, podcasting for

close to seven years now. And asked me to do

stuff that I've already done or that I've already

talked about and I'm like well I did this five

years ago. It's not that I have a problem with

it. I absolutely enjoy it because There are times

where I've done so much podcasting in in seven

years that I've been doing podcasting that I

Don't remember half the crap. I've said on podcast

I can tell you It like it if somebody says to

me what's what's my what's movie we can review

episode 44 I can sit here and tell you without

even looking it's Bicentennial Man or If someone

says what's tooncast classic episode 6 I can

sit here and tell you it's a pup named Scooby

-Doo But as far as what's actually said in podcasts

that are older than all honestly older than almost

a month Or more. It's like I don't remember You

always have those things Silver Hawks versus

Thunder Cats. Oh Or Scrappy Doo versus, you know

Scooby Dumb type of thing. Yeah Those things

you always remember. Come on Well, I Yeah, I

always remember Thunder Thunder Hawks versus

silver cats and and Scrappy versus Scooby Dumb

because I Still to this day will defend my opinion

of Scrappy. He injected some life into the scooby

-doo cartoons he was a character that anyone

any kid at the time that was watching it could

really get into yeah sure he you know ran in

there in the middle of danger when he probably

shouldn't have but it's just one of those things

where the scooby -doo formula after a while got

old really fat like there's so many times I remember

as a kid changing the channel if I had seen The

same scooby -doo episode more than once in one

day. Oh, you know I mean, it's just one of those

things So we're here we are one week away from

episode 80 of G of Geekcast radio here where

we will announce the winners for the second annual

GCR and awards And This episode here in 79. I

wanted to have Steve on because he likes this

subject. I wasn't sure You know what the timing

just didn't work out, but we're gonna talk about

tonight comedians we love and comedians we hate

Let's face it folks most of us growing up in

the 80s even though probably as kids We didn't

get a get a chance to stay up late and watch

the man Everybody grew up with Johnny Carson

oh god yes you know i mean we're gonna talk about

all kinds of comedians here tonight folks it's

not just gonna be uh... you know late night or

it's it's gonna be a it's gonna be everybody

even if you were the female ones even though

most of them suck uh... yeah i i i honestly think

there is only one female comedian that i've actually

both laughs and cringe that over the years and

may she rest in peace but She was at her funniest

when she was on Fashion Police. I can't believe

I'm admitting that I watched Fashion Police,

but it's Joan Rivers. I mean, you know, she was

the voice of Mikey's little sister in Look Who's

Talking 2. No, wait, what was that? She was the

voice in the first one. Yeah, at the end of the

first Look Who's Talking movie. I wish they would

have kept her for the second one. God, it would

have been so much better than Roseanne Hall.

But yeah, we're gonna talk about all kinds of

comedians We're gonna talk about ones like I

said, we love and we hate because let's face

it folks There are comedians out there that are

not gonna fit everybody's comedic style And I

know this episode is probably gonna cause a lot

of controversy with at least one or two of the

ones that I bring up because yeah so How we're

gonna do this is we're gonna take a quick break,

I'm gonna play you a couple of clips from comedians

that we love, we're gonna have the discussion,

couple of clips of comedians we hate, and then

we'll have that discussion and all this and all

that. Do you, just before we get to this, do

you remember the very first comedian you ever

saw or the very first person as a comedian that

you kind of gravitated towards? Oh god, I...

Well, I can tell you the very first person who

I ever saw on stage that was actually I saw I

Went to the Delmar fair San Diego County fair

for those people who have never heard of it and

I saw Oh god bill He's one of the one of the

three guys who does blue blue -collar comedy

tour and I can't Bill Engvall. Thank you, Bill

Engvall. I was standing up there and he was really

funny and he was clean and I thought it was great,

you know. He was the very first one I ever saw.

And I remember laughing and laughing and laughing

about him because one of the things I liked about

him was that he didn't do a lot of blue material.

You know, it's, I mean, I've seen, I've seen

other comedians since then, but he wasn't very

blue. He did stuff that You know you could conceivably

take kids to see and kids to laugh at Oh Absolutely,

um hmm since you went the stand -up road, I guess

I'll go like I Haven't seen a lot of them in

person. I mean I've seen more obviously we've

all seen that everyone's specials on TV and stuff

like that, but oh yeah Because as I said folks

we're not just talking about stand -up here We're

talking about any kind of comedian you can imagine

you know Cosby uh... robin williams uh... you

know anybody but as far as stand -up goes i actually

remember this is bumfuckin nowhere kentucky i

don't know i was was in the foster home program

the state of kentucky was or the state back in

the nineties i was at this at this uh... at this

foster home placements i think it was new i think

it was bedford kentucky i could be wrong uh...

i don't remember the name of the town or anything

like that but uh... they actually had uh... the

people i was uh... staying with the people that

i was placed with uh... actually helped run like

this little restaurants like it wasn't a full

-on comedy club but it was some sort of festival

place kind of thing They actually had Jeff Foxworthy

at this place, and I was pretty much working

the room. Oh, man. Like pouring drinks and not

alcoholic beverages, but like, you know, because

at this time, I think this is like 94, 95, something

like that. And yeah, no, it was... I'm in 97.

I don't know it is a long ass time ago folks,

but you know I was anywhere between 14 and 17

years of age So I'm sitting there pouring soda

for everybody and as I'm you know carrying the

drinks around what you know just watching the

axe and it was so cool seeing him in that small

of a space I Mean it wasn't a dive place. It

was more of a It was a combination of a small

venue and a Tented area even though it wasn't

tentative, but it had that feel of You know,

it was small but it wasn't Confining. I mean,

it's not like, you know, Casey Jones sleeping

in the back of the pickup truck It's nothing

like that, you know But that's that's one thing

I remember as far as stand -up goes so alright

folks we're gonna get to comedians we love after

this you are dead to me you're dead to all of

us alright folks we are back and it is time for

comedians we love i love what the internet has

done to some old comedy bits there's a video

where there used to be a video out there that

took one of the best, if not the best comedy

bit of all time, and mashed it up with something

we both love. Mashed it up with Transformers,

which was Abbott and Costello's Who's On First.

Oh dear lord. I'll have to show it to you, but

uh... I... I still have the audio... Forget what

album it came off of or whatever, but I bought

it off iTunes years ago, and I love listening

to who's on first You know there's something

to be said for for that particular piece of work

Just going through back and forth out in Costello.

You know who's on first that exactly no you know

But you know they're going back and forth and

just trading back and forth and the fact that

that whole thing was an Originally a vaudeville

act they pulled off Yeah, it's still floors me.

I mean this is this is back before the time of

film really Damn they were good at that time

and it's so like I love the audio version of

the of the skit and Again, I couldn't tell you

what album it's on folks. I'm not looking at

the information, but I Love the audio version

of it because it's so clean sure it hey it does

have the audience like laugh track in there not

laugh track but it it has the audience laughter

in there, but I actually had, I had gotten my

mom for, I don't know, Christmas or Mother's

Day or something earlier in one year, like this

seven disc set of their best, I don't know, there

was some big DVD set of all of Evan and Costello's

best stuff. And it was on there and my mom was

like, here, let's watch this. And I don't want

to say anything negative about it, but watching

this skit... It didn't bring me the same enjoyment

as just listening to the skit. Yeah Because I

know what both of them look like I can visualize

in my head as I'm hearing it on the audio track

You know what you know what their their gestures

are and all this and all that So there's Abbott

and Costello I'm trying to think you know you

mentioned Bill Engvall earlier I love Bill Angle.

I can listen to his his album. I think it's cheap

and drunk or drunk I forget which one it is.

It's it's one of them But it's the one where

he's talking about his daughter for most of the

time. Oh god. Yes, and It's just so so awesome.

It really really is Oh It's the one where he's

talking about saving the bread or the twist ties.

Yes! Twist it around and wrap it under. That's

all you gotta do. I don't know, Bill Eggvall

is still one of my favorites, though, for Here's

Your Sign. Oh, well, yeah. I mean, you know,

everybody loves him for that. That's his go -to.

and we've all been there and I know that that

was one of the things when I was working at Cox

that I Would have I swear I would have died for

one of those Easy buttons that when you press

that it said here's your sign for people. Oh

My god, I really wish I could have found something

like that. I would have loved it Absolutely.

Absolutely. So what's uh, what are a couple of

years? I'm gonna say, I'm probably gonna take

flack for this, but one of my favorites, Bill

Cosby. And the reason for this is that I like

Bill Cosby from what I remember him when I was

growing up. He was not the sexual predator that

everybody seems to have him titled as now. He

was, you know, he was the voice of Fat Albert

and the Cosby kids. He was, you know, he was

doing all that. He was showing us, you know,

kids having a good time in a junkyard. Which

I always thought was kind of odd, but it was

still great him talking about him and his brother

growing up and you know Dad my name is Jesus

Christ. That's goddamn it over there You know

those things I love I love some of that stuff

You know that and going to the dentist and he's

talking about that and slurring his words those

were funny things buck buck I Loved buck buck

from Bill Cosby and you know to this day. I can

pretty much almost recite it word for word Absolutely,

you know so what so what do people think that

he's bad now? You know I still like the man I

still think he's funny would I go to a concert

now or would I go to see him live in person probably

not Well, I'll say this before the whole controversy

came out about him being an alleged sexual predator

And I'm gonna say I'm gonna say alleged folks

because I have not been following it I've heard

the news I have not seen anything about court

dates or him being actually convicted of this

crime so I'm going to stick with alleged before

all this happened he had this comedy special

recently couple years ago I think might have

been last year I don't remember and in it he

is an old man I mean everybody gets old grows

up and gets old but All the stuff that he's talking

about is the same stuff he has talked about since

1969. It's just changed format a different way.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want Bill Cosby to

come out and not talk about marriage or kids

or anything like that. I don't want him to go

blue or anything. just at the end of that thing

at the end of that comedy special the newest

one I'm like that's not my Bill Cosby and I'll

say this you know I am one of those types of

people and I grew up like this this is I've been

this way since I was a kid folks as long as what

the people are doing on my television on my radio

whatever I don't care about their personal lives.

Their personal lives don't affect me. Do I have

emotions and feel sadness when news stories like,

you know, this stuff come up? Yeah, sure. Am

I sad that Robin Williams passed away? You're

damn, you know, you damn skippy I am. But I care

about what the person or persons or group or

whatever put out as a product for whatever they're

doing. That's what I care about. But his act

it just Some of it was funny and other points.

It's like I don't know At least I still always

have the best of from 69 Best of you know buck

-buck. Like I said Noah's Ark. Those were some

of the best things Revenge Oh God junior bar

And and my mother had thrown the snowball away

so I walked up I walked back outside and I spit

on it. Yes Driving in San Francisco. I'm going

up the hill. I'm climbing up the hill I get up

to the top of the hill and I look over somebody

put a stop sign at the top of the hill Yes, so,

you know what we did we turned into a used cars

lot And you know cause me Even after his stand

-up days when he went to the Cosby show He made

that Then entire cast made the show but him and

Felicia Rashad as Cliff and Claire Huxtable.

Oh Yeah, I mean it didn't I Don't know if I really

want to say this but I'm gonna say it anyway

and if people can give me flag for it if they

want to in the 80s At least in my family or in

the people that I knew, nobody cared that the

Huxtables were African -American. Yeah, he was...

Nobody cared. Like where I learned half of my

family values other than the stuff that my mom

and my dad had taught me was from television

and it was from Cliff Huxtable. Yeah, he was

actually very wholesome. The family show that

we saw was very wholesome. You know you learned

good stuff and the things that he talked about

he never really I Don't remember him ever having

like you know an episode where he was confronting

full -on blown out racism I mean, I'm sure that

there was some but it was it was different. I

mean here's this affluent black man going around

and dealing with life and being a doctor it You

know he had his kids led a good life. He sent

his kids off to college you know, I I was blown

away by that and the fact that now people are

Saying oh, no. No, he's absolutely horrible.

I can't believe what he's done that he would

have you know He would do a show like that and

behind the scenes he'd be you know, raping some

girls or something like that I you know, I just

don't I just don't until he comes out and confesses

I'm not gonna believe it Yeah, I mean and is

and it isn't gonna change my opinion of his work

that he's already done No, not at all. Yeah,

I still think his early stuff was funny his current

stuff not quite so funny just because he seems

to have gone off the deep end, but You know,

you know, like I said, you know the best of from

69 and for me, it's the best of Bill Cosby album

and it's a Obviously the Cosby show. Yeah, you

know and and fat, you know fat Albert, you know

mixed in there a little bit and I Love I love

to do now is when I do actually get out of the

house is if I oh, I remember When I did get out

of the house to go see the new last year's Turtles

movie, I actually On the way out of the theater.

I saw a kid and the kid asked his mom. What's

buck buck? I said Bill Cosby invented that it

boggles my mind that people watching the 2014

TMNT film think that Buck buck is new Yeah, some

people call it Johnny on the pony Oh God, it's

just that that that sours me you think you know,

right Yeah, I know right, let's see other comedians

I I don't like these. Okay. I like Jeff Foxworthy

individually. I like Bill Engvall individually

when it comes to Ron White and Larry the cable

guy I like them better when they are the four

of them as the blue -collar comedy tour. Oh,

yeah. And how they interact with each other and

how they pretty much treat Larry like he's, you

know, the child that should be wearing the dunce

cap the entire time in the classroom. You know,

I've seen... Okay, I'll say this. The best thing

Larry the Cable Guy has done for me outside of

the blue -collar comedy tour specials... Is he

is the voice of Mater? Okay, the Cars franchise.

I was gonna say, whoa, hold on a second Mater's

pretty cool He is So yeah, I mean that was like

you said that's probably the best thing. Yeah

outside of the blue collar comedy tours, but

No, I love What I love about some of those blue

collar tours, and I forget which one it is, but

there's one where They all start doing each other's

bits at the end and they and they get to doing

you know you might be a redneck if oh yeah and

um you know it's just it's just so hilarious

absolutely love that uh let's see here um but

yeah the blue collar comedy tour that was a pretty

interesting time Yeah, I mean there was there

was a lot of it going around at that time It

seemed like at least for me. I remember seeing

blue collar comedy tour They had the kings and

queens of comedy the Latin kings of comedy things

that were going on Those were okay. They just

weren't all that funny to me, and I think part

of it was because they were a lot of the kings

and queens of comedy were more You're more racy,

and they were it was African primarily African

Americans doing those And I have nothing against

African -American humor. It's just Some of it

was just so far out there, and I felt so disconnected

I wasn't able to find it as funny as Somebody

else would have partially because of the way

that their culture was brought up You know the

way that they were brought up in their culture,

and I wasn't Yeah, you know I it's I'm not knocking

these people you know Kevin Hart. I think he's

hilarious You know cat God, I can't think of

his last name You know, I think that he's hilarious

Orlando Jones, he does great stand -up and he

he's very funny I mean, I think he's actually

funnier doing stand -up than he is in any of

the roles that he's ever played You know being

whether it was in Evolution or his little small

bit in office space. I mean the guy is hilarious.

I Remember him being one of the funnier things

was when he was doing commercials for uh... seven

up and they had him taking pictures of people

saying show us your cans and they're all sending

him pictures of their butts and he takes one

look at it he goes man that just looks like two

giant christmas hands under there you know and

i mean that was i thought that was hilarious

and he got pulled right after that because he

did a shot where they're talking about being

all -natural seven up and there's a bear peeing

in the water behind him And I thought it was

so I thought it was funny but people thought

it was disgusting and I just was like You you

can't hold that against him Can't do that against

him. It was he was for the most part very clean

He did not do anything obscene and I love him

for that. I think he's great Yeah, there's only

I think three movies that he's done that I've

actually seen Office space obviously The replacements

from 2000. Oh, I'm okay bedazzled is another

one in 2000 and then 2001's double take he played

Darrell chase that was hilarious I Love double

take that's the one with him and Eddie Griffin,

right? I have not seen that yet. I know there's

something about him going. Can't you get me some

slitch malt liquor? You know, that's that's all

that I remember from the trailer and I was like,

okay You know, maybe I got to see it and I just

never did. So I'm going to have to go find it.

Maybe it's on Netflix. Well, yeah, you know,

Orlando Jones. Let's see, I'm trying to think

Bill Bill Engel, like I said. Jeff Foxworthy,

I'm trying to think of other. Oh. Adam Sandler,

to a point. Don't get me wrong and I and Steve

Megatron, please do not bash me when I say this

I like Adam Sandler. I like a lot of his earlier

movies Lately, I haven't really I think the last

Adam Sandler movie as someone enjoyed was click

I just and as far as the stand -up goes the only

thing that I absolutely love is The 90s album

what the hell happened to me because that has

the goat on it uh... is that the one that has

piece of shit car as well i'm trying to uh...

i couldn't tell you honestly uh... i just remember

what the hell happened to me has has the gold

on it uh... but adam sandler you know started

out on SNL actually started out on the cosby

show but uh... but uh... you know had his SNL

bits went on to do his own movie career I still

love a lot of Adam Sandler movies, you know.

Hell, certain cable channels can't stop running

Billy Madison right now for some odd reason.

You know, there's a limit for how much. I love

Happy Gilmore, I love Billy Madison, but there's

only so much I can take of it. You know, I get

burned out after seeing a Billy Madison, Big

Daddy, Adam, you know, basically everything Happy

Madison productions. Start doing that. Okay.

Look, we got to take a break folks, please You

know when it comes to that, you know For me,

it's happy Gilmore. It's wedding singer water

boy 50 first dates those are pretty much the

four movies that I can watch not all the time,

but when they do come on I actually want to sit

down and watch them I'm not sure what he's done

for stand -up in a long time like i don't think

he i could be wrong folks i'm not like i said

i'm not looking at any info here but has he done

stand -up in the past ten years uh... to find

stand -up because he did a movie about stand

-up uh... i think it was funny people i'm trying

to it is like i have you know i think you're

right and he was doing like a stand -up routine

for that It just no I'm I'm talking about like

when I say stand -up folks I mean you're actually

on a stage you film it and you put it out as

a Like something like what Jeff Dunham would

do where he films his specials and stuff like

that We'll talk about Jeff Dunham a little bit

later. Oh, yeah, but You know, I just I'm not

sure if he's done any stand -up recently like

the last As far as discography here 93s they're

all gonna laugh at you 96 was what the hell happened

to me The last one he did was don't tell in 2004

So it's been a long time since he's done stand

-up and let's face it. I mean the guy has got

You know an amazing movie career. So I mean,

it's not he needs to do stand -up, but yeah Don't

know it's it's like him and Jim Carrey. I love

them both but I'm getting the feel like both

of them kind of just falling off the face of

the earth with their late their latest movies,

you know I mean Jim Carrey. I think the last

one that he did that was good was yes, man Adam

Sandler Maybe you can't mess with the Zohan,

you know, I mean I haven't really seen anything

that was that was great after that grown -ups

and grown -ups to eh hotel transylvania and You

know I mean just nothing special yeah, just Know

Jim Carrey. I mean he's kind of had the same

thing, but some of it I think is just because

people he's tried to do more serious roles things

like you know the majestic I loved the majestic,

but people saw it and they were like He's not

a comedian in it. He's not Jim Carrey. He's not

that. And they didn't find him funny. I thought

he was great. I love being able to see an actor

go and be something serious and be a comedian

and make people laugh. Yeah, when it comes to

Jim Carrey, I will never not see him. as Fire

Marshal Bill. Everybody loves Fire Marshal Bill.

I don't care who you are. Everybody that grew

up watching in living color loves Fire Marshal

Bill. And if you don't, you're a damn liar liar.

There are times when I go, oh, my God, wait,

he was in Fire Marshal. He was Fire Marshal Bill.

And it's like, oh, yeah, I have to go back and

remember that. Not because it's just one of these

things of. Have to go back and sit down and watch

in living color again those episodes to remember

Why I thought he was so funny because I thought

he I still think he's hilarious but I just have

to sit back and go wait what it was he doing

that made me laugh about it and Once I start

seeing it's like oh, yeah the whole thing of

blowing things up and catching stuff on fire

and catching himself on fire and having you know

Four fingers after chopping one off or something

like that that was hilarious And I mean, let's

face it, 94, he pretty much hit big. I mean,

he was big on In Living Color, but when, you

know, he became Ace Ventura Pet Detective, he

pretty much launched his movie career. Because

after that, you had The Mask, Dumb and Dumber,

Batman Forever, which I know a lot of people

don't like, whatever, fine. The Ace Ventura sequel.

Liar Liar's amazing. I love that film. Yeah.

Have not there's certain Jim Carrey films that

I have not watched because I just don't Find

interest in them some of them the more the serious

ones like the Truman show and man on the moon

and that kind of stuff Well, there was there

was one that I saw him in recently kick -ass

to Which it shocked the hell out of me because

when I saw them like oh my god, that's Jim Carrey

he plays a character called Colonel stars and

stripes and I had to do a double take. I mean,

I did realize that after watching him for about

10 minutes who it was, but it was just like,

whoa, he looks nothing like Jim Carrey. He had

a crew cut going and he was this military type

and just, he was hilarious. He was funny in it,

but it just was not anything I'd ever seen him

pull off before. Right. I loved him in Bruce

Almighty. I thought that was hilarious. I think

the most serious one that I've seen him in and

that I really really enjoyed was the number 23

from 2007 oh I've heard about that I haven't

seen it yet I heard it's good though yeah that

movie was kind of awesome and he just released

last year Dumb and Dumber 2 well he didn't but

the Farrelly brothers didn't obviously he's in

it and I just It doesn't live up to the original.

Yeah, there was something about that where they

they caught lightning in a bottle and You know,

it was funny seeing You know seeing him and Jeff

just going out with each other and you know peeing

in the bottles and taking the road trip and just

You know trading away the car for the minibike.

I Still can't get over that. I know what's wrong

You know what the funniest scene for me of the

entire movie is? When they pop the champagne

cork and kill the owl. Oh god. Oh damn people.

Cause it's just so unexpected, you know, you

see that scene before they even get there. As

soon as they come in, you know, oh, there goes

the, here goes the neighborhood when it comes

to the animals. Oh yeah. Jim Carrey's another

one. We can't talk about comedians, at least

ones we love, without talking about, like I said,

Johnny Carson. Johnny had this knack and he was

the standard for, what, 30 years? Oh yeah. He

was the king of late night. He still is the king

of late night. His legacy will live on forever

between him and Ed and all this stuff. I think

Johnny Carson is the only late -night talk show

host comedian that I can actually watch his Animal

acts that he has on there like Jack Hanna and

that kind of stuff is the only one I can even

watch now because anytime any of the other hosts

doesn't matter who it is Bring on animals onto

the show. It's like no just don't even go there

change the channel. I just can't handle it You

know What was it the great Karmak? Oh, yes, the

great Karnak and he's holding up holding letters

up to his to his hat and he's reading them off

and he's saying what it is and then Hands it

over to Ed and Ed opens it up. There's something

hilarious on the inside Just yeah That you know

his his monologues at the very beginning of the

show were classic I I loved it, you know, he

pulled that off so well and Yes, Jay Leno took

over and did a great job of doing it as well.

I mean Jay had his own run, but Even Jay had

said it it was you know he was filling He was

filling shoes that were meant to be worn by the

master by Johnny Carson Absolutely, and you know

Johnny is just he was one of a kind one of a

kind And to me, Leno, I liked what he did with

The Tonight Show. I thought it was interesting.

I thought he had some interesting questions for

the guests and stuff like that. He didn't try

to be cool or hip. If he did, it was more of

a comedic way than just completely stupidly awkward.

And that's where I find, and well, I don't hate

David Letterman. I liked him back in the 90s.

I mean obviously I didn't see him when he was

on NBC but I saw him you know once he was with

CBS and I mean I loved all the old top tens and

whatever else but there are just certain times

where Dave is asking questions to whoever it

is and he just the whole scene looks so uncomfortable

and He'll go to Paul to break up the cut, you

know, it's kind of like we'll be right back after

this Yeah, it's it's kind of like one of those

things where he's like Paul save me man. Save

me. Yes. I Do like Dave he is interesting He

hasn't been funny for me in 20 years though Well,

like I was saying with Leno, I liked what he

did. I think my favorite thing with him was Thursday

night or Wednesday night headlines. He would

show the headlines. I thought that was hilarious.

I like that in jaywalking. My grandmother was

actually picked up for one episode. They're showing

people... Okay, I gotta talk about this for just

a second. Okay, good. We go to Universal Studios

and we're coming down this escalator and they're

Taking pictures of people there. They've got

a video camera shooting at people coming off

the escalator and my grandmother had this goofy

look on her face like she was completely lost

as she steps off of it and they put her on now

they were doing things like Here comes, you know

so -and -so at the red on the red carpet for

the Oscars tonight coming down and you know,

it's like They're saying oh, here's Shirley McLean.

You know it's a it's a big fat black woman walking

down something like that My grandmother got on

there for that, and I don't remember what it

was But she had this look on her face and the

public just laughed at it because she was Lost

and I mean we're just like my grandma come over

here And then of course as we're walking away.

They're going wait wait wait wait wait We have

you we have to get your permission so we can

use your like this on the tonight show It'll

be on for a clip tonight. My cover is like How

are you going on for her? What the hell do you

want my my likeness for her? And she started

to get offended and my mom and I had to say no

no no grandma You're gonna be on national television.

You need to say yes, please say yes It was just

she finally was like, okay. Okay, and she goes

what the hell was that all about as we're walking

away? You know what I love my grandmother she

you know gun The rest are sold but she was one

of those things and just Jay Leno picked up on

it and thought it was hilarious. So You know

that with the jaywalking stuff that he did was

great Who else for you as far as ones you like

or enjoy or whatever, you know, I Think I pretty

much got I mean you've covered a lot of what

I liked with the blue -collar comedy Jeff Dunham

probably is the only other one I'd have to mention

Oh, absolutely. I know a lot of people say that,

oh, Jeff Dunham, he's for the simple man. His

act is not that, you know, whatever. And I'm

thinking, seriously, really? I mean, this is

a guy who you have to admire no matter how simple

you think his act is as far as the jokes go.

You have to admire him because at the age of

God knows what, He knew exactly what he wanted

to do with his life. Oh, yeah He wanted to be

a ventriloquist like I remember age four or five

six seven eight nine There was one year. I said

I wanted to be a cop there was one year I said

I wanted to be a firefighter there was one year

and said I you know wanted to be a superhero

You know, I mean all of us not most people I

know never said at age XYZ when they were kids

exactly what they were gonna do and stuck to

it yeah you know this is a guy who like I said

it what whatever young age it was you know sat

there and said I want to do ventriloquism because

that that is what inspired him and he has done

it for his entire life he hasn't had another

G you know I'm sure he's had you know Jobs when

he was a kid and whatever else, but I mean the

ventriloquism pretty much was his job I've listened

to watched read everything I can about this guy.

I have his Autobiography on on iTunes for audio

books. I've watched all the specials I've seen

all the stuff, you know from earlier years. I

I used to have a I Don't know if it's still there

but hit one of his arid He originally did this

before he got famous. He did this this five voice

part of the act where he brings in It's peanut

and Jose. Oh god He then brings in Plus himself,

so that's three he brings in The tequila and

the tequila worm Oh, Jesus. And he voices all

of the... He still does that kind of same thing

today with the whole Jeff dummy doll thing he

uses. And he kind of brought that back, but watching

stuff like arguing with myself with him and Sweet

Daddy D and Walter and Peanut and all that. This

is before he introduced Achmed, his very first

special, arguing with myself. Watching that and

then going on YouTube and finding that other

clip and seeing what he I mean really really

can do It you know it takes some talent to be

able to pull off because you have to remember

which voices you're going back and forth with

There was a comedian who I saw who was very similar.

He is in Vegas Terry fader and There was on the

special that I saw him do he screwed up the voices

he's trying to do for michael jackson and he

screwed up and just it was absolutely hilarious

because he starts moving his mouth and saying

that he was michael jackson and the puppet was

going on with this uh... that this weird voice

that he had uh... for being like a cowboy or

something like that it just came off totally

weird he's like i'm screwed up the voices i've

never seen jeff dunham do that he uh... i i mean

i'm sure you could pull off and make it be absolutely

hilarious but when he goes from Peanut and he's

arguing with peanut and himself and Jose jalapeno

on a stick Mm -hmm. I don't know how the hell

he keeps it all in his head straight. I Mean

even if you practice that over and over and over

and over again There's still always a chance

of you screwing it up, and he's holds on to it

perfectly You were supposed to take him to the

spa. I took him to the spa. He put me in the

vegetable steamer senior I remember from arguing

with myself When he introduced Bubba J and it

went Walter sweet daddy D Bubba J and then peanut

and Jose and It's so funny because I never knew

this at the time and I One of my friends must

have seen his act or something because one of

my friends Who I was with at the group home that

we were at? This was 97 98 he my friend must

have seen his act or something because my friend

would always say And they're gonna take a left

turn and another laughter I did not realize that

was a bit until I saw arguing with myself, but

arguing with myself didn't come out until 2006.

So I'm like, where did he even get that? But,

you know, seeing that and then seeing the follow

up after Sweet Daddy D, you know, it's like,

oh, you know, Sweet Daddy D is like... Oh yeah,

because me and all the brothers just laying around

in the hood. Oh, Lordy, what are we going to

do? There's no hockey. Let's watch NASCAR. This

is another dumb crag of sport. And I'm just quoting

this from memory, folks. I've seen these specials

more than enough times to quote them from memory.

Most of them. Like Peanut in arguing with myself,

he's like, hey Peanut, you're going to do the

traffic. OK. Everybody's pretty busy out there.

You should all stay at home to come back and

talk to me at 530 I'll tell you the same thing.

Yep Except they're going the other way I I love

Jeff Dunham. I really do a man is is hilarious

and things that he has shown up in like he was

in dinner for schmucks all you know uh... female

dummy uh... and he's done voiceover in in several

different things in yeah he just does so well

and i i i love him he does so well but i think

there are certain mediums and i think this for

any any stand -up comic some succeed others have

pretty much failed uh... giving stand -up comics

their own shows Based off of their you know Lives

or lives in the road, you know, you and don't

get me wrong. I love Jeff Foxworthy I love billang

ball and I love Jeff Dunham But those are three

guys that have all had television series that

have failed. Yeah I I wish the Jeff Dunham show

would have worked But it sadly didn't Well, and

I think part of it was just because he didn't

have enough material to keep it going for That

and the budget and having to do it. Yeah, I mean

on a weekly basis It's interesting to me where

some of these comedians end up after they've

done a television series because for the longest

time And I don't think it's still running the

longest time Jeff Foxworthy was the host for

are you smarter than a fifth grader? yeah but

Jeff Dunham abs like I really he's the only person

that could make anyone in America or the world

like a dead terrorist yes when he introduced

Ahmed in spark of insanity It was just awesome.

And then you followed that character's journey

through the next few specials. I still remember

the Christmas special. I absolutely love it.

Yeah, there is Jingle Bombs. But before that,

Achman goes, he says, You know, I went to the

doctor the other day. I have Scoliosis and then

like two or three seconds later. He says I also

have polio and like two beats later Jeff is like

well anyone with poliosis and awkward. It's like

what the is poliosis So you you do see Jeff kind

of lose himself a few times. Oh, yeah in the

shows What's most interesting I wish they would

have done this for all the DVDs but on a few

of them there are commentaries and The arguing

with myself DVD listening to that commentary

is most interesting dish how they tell you Jeff

actually tells us that that special was made

From two different shows. It wasn't just one

show. Oh like, you know you you Most comedians

do two or three shows a night right most of them

do so They made up that entire special filming

it from two very different audiences. And it

was just simply amazing. His Minding the Monsters

one was hilarious. I have to see that one. There's

several that I have not seen yet and I really

want to see them and I just... Have you seen

controlled chaos? It was before minding the monsters.

I know I've seen art myself I've seen Christmas

special. There was another special that did Spark

of insanity. I've seen those three for sure.

Okay. Oh my god. No you you have to see You have

to see Controlled chaos it is hilarious. It really

really is because he Because throughout the first

three specials, he's always talking about Achmed's

family and the fact that he has a son or he had

a son. Achmed Jr. I've seen a small smidge of

a clip with Achmed Jr. He takes controlled chaos

to introduce Achmed Jr. And the clip is just

so... When they get to a certain point, it...

the bit the bit by itself before he introduces

Achmed jr. Is hilarious But when he does introduce

Achmed jr. It gets even more funny after that

Yeah, I love me some Jeff Dunham. I cannot wait

to see what he does next last year. He released

his all -over -the -map special I like the jokes

in the special. I just don't like the format

of it. It was basically him filming the world

tour he did, where he went to five continents,

12 different countries, 27 different cities.

Don't get me wrong. I love the material. I just

don't like the way the special is presented to

us, where they basically try to make it like

a... a book and film where they'll take a couple

of characters and do a bit in London and then

they'll do like a page turn or some sort of weird

transition and then they'll go to a different

country. The jokes in themselves are great. Absolutely

love that. It's just the way it's presented is

what I don't enjoy. All right, folks. We've been

talking for a while here on Once We Love. Let's

bash some comedians over here. We'll be back

after this. We have a guy on our staff who's

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confident. He's a great guy. Very Mr. Clean.

I know, exactly. He's a great guy. He's a computer

genius. Here's the thing. Whenever I walk by

Chris's desk, it's not that far from my office.

Whenever I walk by his desk, he's almost always

eating Taco Bell. And I am not making that up.

He is obsessed with their food. Yes. Like, it's

like a religion with him. Yes. Okay? And it's

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Let's give a round of applause for everybody

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smug trick in the alley? Pass or fail? Alright

folks, it is now time for us to talk about comedians

we don't like, comedians we hate, comedians we

just cannot watch. For me, I understand they

screwed him over, but I blame NBC more than I

blame Conan or Leno, but other than the writing

he did on The Simpsons, I don't mind Conan's

comedy, I don't mind his jokes. As long as it's

not him telling them or him even being on camera

like him being on camera. I remember watching

him What was it though? Was it the late late

show or was it? What's the what's the one after

that? Not late late show. It's um What's on an

NBC? Oh God after the tonight show what the late

night with Seth might yeah late night with Conan

O 'Brien like When I would watch Late Night with

Conan O 'Brien and he would do all these really,

really weird, to me they look awkward. He does

all these really, really weird, stupid, in -your

-face camera moves and like just basically taking

a camera and just basically hitting himself in

the forehead with it. It's like... No, dude don't

and then the biggest thing that I do not like

that he had ever done And I know this had to

be very uncomfortable for Bruce Tim the whole

see thing the whole sea man or whatever the hell

His superhero drawing thing that Bruce Tim do

for him Yeah, I've seen that clip over and over

and over again, and it just looked the man has

potential to and i'm sure a lot of people find

him funny i just don't i don't find conan funny

it has nothing to do with the whole nbc thing

whatsoever even when he was with nbc on late

night i never found him funny i find him reprehensible

when he's on camera i find it it's it's not to

the point My dislike of Conan is not like my

dislike of Ren and Stimpy as far as the animation

style goes, but it's pretty much up there. They're

about even with each other. It's like a tie.

I just don't... I don't know. I've tried watching

him now on TBS, and again, he does these commercials

where he does this... he's still doing this camera

thing. where he, you know, his face is all up

in the camera, and it's like, dude, take a step

back, tell your joke, and be done with it. And

it just... What gets me is that people find that

funny. It's... I don't know. It's right up there.

You know, it's like... I'm gonna go with one

of mine here real quick. Go ahead. Gilbert Godfrey.

Uh -huh. Okay? I don't know why people find him

funny. He's offensive. He's disgusting. The only

thing which I found funny, which he did, was

when he started telling, he went off on the Associates.

And he starts going on on this joke. And this

is, for anybody who's not familiar with this,

Penn and Teller did a, or Penn Jillette did a

documentary film called The Associates in which...

Comedians all have this joke they tell to each

other and it basically just goes off and They

all have their own spin on it and they tell it

their own way and pull this whole joke off Everybody

knows it but nobody ever does it on stage and

then Gilbert Godfrey did it at a roast and Yeah,

it just started going off and taking this awkward

turn and everybody was like, oh he's hilarious

for that really He was hilarious because he went

completely off color. You know, there was a bit,

I remember him getting kicked off of TV for a

while because he came out for the Grammys or

the Oscars or something like that and he starts

imitating Jerry Seinfeld talking about masturbation.

My mom went, what the hell is this? And she turned

off the TV. She goes I don't want you watching

this. And I said, I don't blame you, mom. It's

too, yeah, I'm creepy. Yeah, the only time I've

enjoyed Gilbert is when he's doing his voiceovers

or when he was playing Sydney Bernstein, you

know, my wife, that's my wife's car badge, you

know, in Beverly Hills Cop 2. Even though and

it's sad that I even have to admit this, but.

Was curious like I said earlier in this podcast

folks I really don't care what happens to celebrities

in their personal lives But when it shoved down

her throats, and I know I could have just ignored

this but I was my curiosity I just I just couldn't

help myself. I watched the celebrity wife swap

episode with him Somebody married him The most

interesting thing is is um Munch shows up because

munch is one of his lifelong friends Richard

Belzer But it's Who did he swap with I don't

remember But I mean like yeah Gilbert Gottfried.

Oh, I've never really he swapped wise with Alan

thick That's right, that's right I've never really

seen his stand -up stuff It's it's dirty. I mean

it's he's got stuff that could be funny mm -hmm

like you know Andrew Dice Clay, he's offensive,

but he's funny when he does it Gilbert Gottfried

is just straight -out offensive Okay, there's

it. There's a big difference. I mean I love listening

to him when he's when he's Iago when he did he

actually just did a elf stop -motion animation

Other for this past Christmas. I thought he was

hilarious on that But I just have a hard time

seeing them as anything else You know it No Absolutely

Yeah Who else? That I just really don't care

for. You know, we've talked about this previously

over on Altered Geek with Steve Megatron. We've

talked about the late -night stuff, but late

-night nowadays is horrible, in my opinion. Oh,

yeah. I know people love Jimmy Fallon on The

Tonight Show, and I know that The Tonight Show

has to change, and it has to grow, and it has

to get a new audience now that obviously... Make

you rest in peace Johnny is gone and Ed are gone

and and Jay is is quote unquote retired You know,

I understand it needs a new audience But honestly,

I only Jimmy in at least two of the films he

did, you know fever pitch and taxi sure taxis

a horrible movie but it was still kind of funny

because it's him and Queen Latifah, but Don't

know I liked him better when he was on Saturday

Night Live. Yeah, he He does some funny stuff

like he he has a bit which he's done where he

imitates He imitates songwriters it or like He

does what singers. Yeah. Yeah, he does one about

troll dolls and he starts singing You know, it's

I Mr. Jones and me I forget who it is. It sings

that song counting crows. Maybe I don't know.

Yeah Yeah, it's yeah, it's counting crows, but

he does mr. Troll and me and it's hilarious when

he does it cuz he sounds just like The song and

he pulls it off really well. I Don't think he's

that funny though. I really don't Yeah, I Think

it's great that he's doing all these geeky things

on tonight's show now like you know saved by

the bell reunions and all All this and all that,

but I'm sorry that will Smith bit that Fresh

Prince bit was just horrible. Yeah Them doing

the whole evolution of dance. I was just like

oh, okay. What? It was funny for about 30 seconds

and then it went about two minutes too long yeah

there are certain people not not jimmy not jimmy

fallon but there are certain comedians that should

never leave snl or if they do leave snl should

never get on television as a regular gig because

you want to talk about something bad for late

night late night with seth meyers is horrid i'm

surprised that he He's got a contract. That's

gotta be it. He's got this contract, and they

have to keep him on the air because they can't

get rid of him since he's so bad. Yeah. Absolutely.

Let me see. Who else don't I like? Like I said

earlier, I don't have absolute seething hatred

for them, but I just can't enjoy. Larry the cable

guy and run whites specials when they're not

with Angwall and and Foxworthy it just it just

doesn't resonate for me. Yeah It just really

doesn't I'm gonna go another step here from them.

I'm gonna go back she had a TV show she was funny

on the TV show and Even halfway through the show

she was losing it Roseanne bar Okay, I am actually

I think that her whole moment when she jumped

the shark and went completely ape shit bat shit

crazy Was at a Padres game And I think you know

exactly what I'm talking about she came out and

screamed the national anthem when she was done

she grabbed her crotch and spit on the ground

and That right there. I lost all respect for

the woman You know, even to this day, I'm still

shocked that people still find her funny, that

people will still go to her shows, that she's

got television shows on things like CMT. How

the hell does that happen? Yeah, that's, yeah.

I don't know. And it's so funny that she is,

it's not currently airing, but she's the host

of, um... Investigation Discovery show called

momsters When moms go bad She's not on I mean

she's on there in the beginning of the show and

like the you know when they go to commercial

breaks and that kind of thing But it's not like

she's narrating it or anything like that. So

that's good Yeah, Roseanne You know, she's had

some things which I've just always kind of gone

what the hell were they thinking? You know that

she had a cartoon on ABC for a while called Little

Rosie? And it was like, I'm listening to her,

she's supposed to be, she's got this little brother,

the one episode which I saw, he's sick and they're

trying to go through this whole thing and try

and get him better and the kid's going, wellsy,

wellsy, wellsy, and she's got her bitchy voice

on and just kinda, oh my god, going through the

whole thing. I will say, for a different take

on a classic character, she was a pretty good

Krang Prime in TMNT in the 2012 series. Oh dear

lord. Have you not seen this? No. I'm afraid

now. No, it's pretty badass. It really is. You

know, I'll say that. What's so interesting and

this isn't really? Comedians or anything like

that, but what's so interesting to me is that

when the Big Bang Theory started it was 94 %

Leftovers of Roseanne Because you have Johnny

Galecki who was David on Roseanne. Yeah, you

have What's her name? Let's go Jackie. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Melissa Gilbert was there aunt

Jackie Cuz aunt Jackie plays Sheldon's mother.

Oh Yeah, yeah, yeah But I thought that was so

hilarious that they that 90 % of the big bang

theory was Leftovers from Roseanne I'm trying

to think of other ones like I'll say this now.

I don't want to sound sexist when I say this

audience so please forgive me when I say this

but There aren't a lot of female comedians out

there that I find funny or that I watch. Yeah.

And they're really, really are like Joan Rivers.

It's pretty much it. Roseanne, I don't care for

her stand up. I like her on, you know, the TV

show. Yeah. She was doing at the time, you know,

her. But. seen a few female comedians and Some

of them are good when I was originally watching

last comic standing there was someone on there

Oh God Madigan Madigan, what the hell's her name?

Madigan Kathleen Madigan. I liked her You know,

but it's it's pretty much male that dominate

the The business yeah, well I'm gonna use your

last comic standing to bring in one You know

who I'm gonna talk. Yeah, okay The very first

season of last comic standing There was a comedian

who went all the way and won the damn thing dat

fan I Went to school with dat fan. He went to

West Hills High School. He graduated from West

Hills High School two years before I did Mm -hmm.

I remember him going and working at SeaWorld.

I remember seeing him He used to be an educator

there So these people that would stand out and

talk about things like you know They talk about

the dolphins or they talk about the killer whales

to people and answer questions He would be there

trying to go off and make jokes and do his standard

routine While trying to educate people and it

was just horrible And I don't know how the hell

he won You know, I don't know how the hell you

won last comic standing He was even popular enough

to where direct TV picked him up to do these

jokes because he's supposed to be so short The

guy is five nine. He's average height He's not

short Okay, I don't know why they had to pick

on him as being short and have him do the stupid

-ass thing He's not funny. He never was even

in high school. He tried to tell jokes and You

know, he'd be there trying to tell jokes when

we were, you know, I was at Grossmont College

one day and he comes over and he starts sitting

down with me and some friends of ours, some mutual

friends of ours, and he starts trying to tell

some jokes about how he's so funny and, you know,

he's joking about, oh, you know, hey, where's

Willie and Charlie? Willie and Charlie are his

best friends. And, you know, everybody, I saw

him, I go, hey, how are Willie and Charlie? And

he goes, God, everybody starts asking me about

that. And he turns it into this whole monologue

for like five minutes. And I'm going, Dad. That

wasn't funny. You just failed big time. And I'm

like, you're bombing. You're bombing. Stop. You're

bombing. And he kept going on. I don't know how

he's still acting, how he's still doing this.

He's been in movies. He was in cellular and people

thought he was hilarious in that by doing his

whole, you know, Vietnamese imitation. No, no.

So I'm sorry. I'll get off my soapbox. No. Yeah.

I mean just looking at the last comic standing

stuff. It's like How and why was he on the third

one like he won the first one? He was on the

second and the third season of last kind of like

usually once you win You're gone. Yeah, you know,

I Mean the other guy Ralphie Mays was up against

him, you know, yeah Ralphie May. Yeah, Ralphie

Mays is hilarious He was funnier than that. How

did that win? You know You know Ralphie's gone.

He's been doing stand -up for quite some time

and he's had several specials. What has that

done? Nothing that that ain't done shit. Yeah

Oh, he got onto he got on last to the tonight

show with Jay Leno one night and I saw that and

I Was just like, you know He starts talking about

and one of the jokes that he starts talking about

was his mom He talks about his mom coming up

to West Hollywood and West Hollywood for anybody

who doesn't know West Hollywood was primarily

gay Okay, there's there's a large gay population

there Here in San Diego. We have Hillcrest He

starts talking about this place up in West Hollywood,

which does not actually exist West hollywood

just talking about his mom going up and seeing

all these men being very friendly with each other

holding hands And he starts talking about all

look they go into k -mart k -mart. No wait wait

that's not k -mart that game art There is an

actual game art in the hillscrest. I know that

his mom saw that he didn't see it up there in

West Hollywood I'm sorry, I'm picking too much.

I'm gonna stop no hey, you know Alright folks,

I think that's going to do it for us here on

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We're going to reveal the winners on air for

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we're going to be coming up with. My goal for

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