Transformers: The Movie Fathom Events Screening

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Five, four. Hello and welcome to all things transformers.

This is episode 164 I am of course TF2 and Mike

Steve Megatron is off on Eucharist or somewhere

else doing something else with some sort of rubber

ducky or something. I don't know joining me for

the Multiple times he has already but joining

us for almost the first or second time on this

podcast It's kind of like a TF wire reunion.

We've got Jesse aka matrix prime. Hello, sir

what's up not much and of course ryan the uneven

flow aka nightbeat is here as well yeah because

i'm on all your shows because you don't pay anybody

i don't pay you either so i know and you're desperate

so like you scrape the bottom of the barrel find

people who aren't doing anything and you know

well you you have just about as much time as

i do to do this crap now so why not i'm drinking

some alcohol over here there you go So two -thirds

of TFR Yes, yeah two -thirds of it Sadly the

other third is um well if you could just talk

about some random Japanese stuff. It'd be pretty

much the same oh anyway So we are here tonight.

This is a bit late, but scheduling and Vacation

I'm gonna weasel my way into one of his YouTube

reviews or something Ask him to chat yes anyway

uh... so we're here a few weeks after the transformers

fathom events for the eighty six movie happened

september twenty seventh uh... under a week for

us to the plate here for a while that's because

it fucking canada anyway uh... yes so fathom

events transformers the movie in the u .s. one

night only uh... september twenty seventh uh...

seven p .m. local time for the most part According

to the info I have here in the US, they showed

the 30th anniversary Shout Factory released edition.

The only reason why I know this is, number one,

we all have that edition. At least I hope all

three of us do. I know Ryan has like 20 different

copies of Transformers the movie. And they're

all worn out. Several of them on VHS. So I actually

don't have the 30th anniversary. Really? Yeah.

Which is why I was asking you guys prior. Highly

recommend it and I'll explain why I guess then

well I'll explain I'll explain to you as we're

as we're going here because yeah one thing I'll

get out of the way our cut of the movie and this

like So it was clearly not the 30th anniversary

that played up here because hot rods color was

off as well as the Devastator animation slash

color error was there and some of the other stuff

that they fixed up Cuz I went home and I watched

the 30th anniversary a couple nights after I

can't remember which viewing it was but yeah

I was sure it was different and yet was and then

the big difference was the sound sounded like

ass It was not 5 .1. Holy shit my crappy tend

to I used to not swear on TF wire. Whoops. Anyway,

this is not TF wire It's okay. Yes, whatever.

Anyway, my crappy Old computer speakers sounded

better than the tinny Especially some of the

sequences like I don't know Rekka's voice I swear

my ears were gonna bleed cheese Now did you see

in a theater that you normally go to not really

I mean it's still It's still one of the larger

theaters, but it's now old it was the newest

fanciest theater about a decade or so ago, but

now it's not. And you don't think it's necessarily

the sound system in that place, then? No, I've

heard movies sound way better. Like we're talking

stepped on my cat's tail bad at points here.

Like, oh, it was I don't know what it was. Like

I say, I'm pretty sure it was the 25th anniversary

DVD. Version or print or whatever you want to

call it They're playing but man the audio is

way better on that like the audio is better on

the crappy bare -bones DVD I've got so I don't

know somebody couldn't like loan him a blu -ray

player or something Whatever though still enjoyable

anyway, you know In the theater that I go to

we've only gone to a couple of times We just

moved to the town that we live in currently this

past March so Don't know I have only seen two

movies in that theater, so I have no idea what

the track record is on their sound system But

like I said Ours was the 30th anniversary What

was the other movie? The Incredibles 2 I was

hoping it was something really bad, and I was

gonna make fun of you Of course you will you

always do so Let's get the Bumblebee out of the

way first. What did everyone think of the preview

for the new non -Michael Bay movie? It looks

better than the Michael Bay movies. Technically

he is still on it, he's producing, but Producer

is such a... it's a wide -scoping thing, but

thank God he's not in the director's chair. Feels

like it's aiming for a younger audience than

some of the Bay movies. I don't know if anybody

else feels that way, but Although having said

that the humor is still more sophisticated than

bumblebee pissing on someone so true or dogs

humping or and so or five minutes of statutory

rape discussion, so the God I hate those so the

Trailer and everything else. I mean it looks

good the biggest difference we talked about this

on this show a week or so ago Though it just

it's filmed way better than any of the Bay movies

the cinematography So much better like the robots

are all in frame and in the middle. So I don't

know I mean, I'll probably see it and transformers

fan on the other hand I'm real skeptical because

fool me once shame on me fool me five times Shame

on you else. Yeah shame on me even worse. I Tried

to misquote Bush and I failed miserably. Whatever.

Mm -hmm Your current I'd miss quote your current

president, but I'd make more sense. That's true

You'll notice I always get one America dig in

every podcast yes, yeah pretty much Well, so

that was the thing with this with this event

right there was supposed to be this this special

preview of the bumblebee movie And what it really

ended up being was just an extended clip of the

very first Teaser trailer the very first trailer

kind of yeah Yeah, they didn't really show much

of anything so so I guess what I saw so I don't

know if there was multiple clips what I saw was

Essentially the introduction of bumblebee to

the lead female character. I don't know her name.

Yeah Inside of her garage and it was just kind

of like an extended version of that which we'd

already kind of seen in Like I said a previous

trailer or the very first teaser trailer Also

like people being you know talking about them

yeah, we had yeah we had an interview and then

the actual trailer as well as Yeah, I guess there

was that in there, but I was expecting to see

something new or different Mean the behind -the

-scenes talk wasn't really that Great her interesting.

Yeah Talking about his vision of the 80s and

right he can't see you now Right now I I like

the trailer the trailer that came out after that

where we got to see you know on Cybertron more

of the Transformer characters I wish you would

have seen more of that at the at the preview.

Yeah Yeah, like I said, I'm curious enough about

it. It's like even without the the Trailer I'd

probably be interested enough to go see it. I

mean at the very least I'm hoping it's a Popcorn

movie, you know, just enjoyable hoping it doesn't

cause me physical pain like age of extinction

or the last night or Revenge of the Fallen. So

the last night I had just given up I'm pretty

sure my brain had just eaten itself. And so when

stuff happened like a watch killed Hitler You

know I had just I was just laughing hysterically

I'm almost positive. I fell asleep during that

movie. I think I just lobotomized myself really

is what happened I think I potentially found

it online and potentially only watched through

like 35 minutes of it because it was just like

I could not sit here so Who did you guys go with?

Because I ended up going in a group, and it included

two people who had never seen the movie and had

no attachment to Transformers. So I'll kind of

get into that in a second. Jesse, who'd you go

with? So I went with my fiance. So did I. Only

my fiance, not yours. So she's a couple of years

younger than I am, but also born in the 80s.

And I mean, I've talked with you. We talked to

Ryan a little bit about her in the past. So she

was big in the comics growing up. So she's also,

you know, kind of big on the whole 80s cartoons.

Like she knew of Transformers, but she wasn't

a big fan of them. I showed her the movie, the

animated movie. She's seen the live action ones

before we were together. But but no, she was

interested in going. I think overall she enjoyed

it. wasn't her you know it's not really her cup

of tea but you know she kind of went because

i was into it so yeah i'm in the same boat my

wife and i went and i gave normally when i'm

showing my wife karen certain things or we have

a show that we're gonna go to that like when

i went to the blackstone cherry concert back

in march kind of a thing i will prep her I gave

her pretty much no prep work with this. And our

buddy Ender from Radio Free Cybertron, Matt who

lives about one town over from us, everyone's

heard Ender on Radio Free Cybertron at one point

or another. He's the really loud one that has

really cool opinions. Well, I'll... Sent you

something that he did a while ago That too, and

I don't know that I know him either Well, he

I just didn't listen to it I just used to just

listen to TF wire when it was Jesse and Spada

and then I started thinking hey I could do this

and Jesse had the open tryout thing then you

lost my Audition and I ended up rescinding it.

I think about three months later. Oh boy uh...

so he showed up with his children and we all

kind of said that there are a lot of children

of us it's alright it's fine he he's teaching

his children well uh... and there were various

other people throughout so it was it was all

fun and games it was funny from my wife's perspective

Any Transformers fan is either gonna say every

single line or they're gonna mouth it under their

breath or whatever out of this movie Well, I

was saying some but I was not trying not to be

as loud as some other people in the theater She

basically told me that there was a guy to her

left and then me to her right where basically

it felt like We're saying the movie in stereo

to her She felt it was super corny super cheap

the entire movie super corny super cheesy. She

had never seen it before And I did not prepare

her for the awesomeness that is Stan Bush or

Spectre General or Lion or any of that stuff

with the music. As I was sitting there and the

movie started, I told my fiance I was gonna recite

the entire thing as it was going and she told

me she was gonna punch me if I did that. Yeah,

so I went with Sarah. She was born in 86, but

she wasn't allowed to watch cartoons growing

up. Oddly enough. She ended up watching Beast

Wars, which I guess didn't count because it wasn't

animated or something I don't know whatever anyway

computer man computer. Yeah, so She had nothing

going into this shit. No real knowledge. She

just wanted to go because I was super interested

I ended up sort of transfixed by ants. I didn't

say anything the entire time And in the end yet,

she absolutely loved it to the point that she

borrowed one of the soundtrack CDs and she's

going to do some of her painting to it on a twitch

stream oh sweet and She just really liked it.

She wasn't expecting essentially a rock opera,

which I guess yeah, I can see that and She's

not a huge fan of a lot of movies. She's a lot

more people think I'm uppity and discriminatory

in my film choices, but oh she's worse than I

am Although it's weird man. She likes some real

bad TV shows, but I suppose I watch some trash

do Border Patrol can't pay will take it away.

Oh my god. I got a thing for their mean -spirited

ones says deep down I think of a bad person.

I don't know but In any case yeah, and there

was one other who who went with us who hadn't

seen it and she was there same sort of scenario

she was there with her fiance and uh she sort

of enjoyed it but it's so it's so weird Sarah

and I ended up talking about this on the way

home if you wanted to be cynical this is just

a really long commercial for a bunch of new toys

but there's something to the movie that's helped

it and the characters endure all these years

like there's something more than that and I think

a lot of it is it seems like care went into everything

for all the animation errors and that kind of

thing there's some pretty good voice performer

performances especially by the actual cast from

the show I'm pretty sure some of the others just

did it for paycheck like Orson Welles is pretty

famously to write it being in it and Even still

like the the bigger stars that they got to do

the voice roles. I don't think any of them were

terrible No, they're all serviceable like at

the worst and part of it's because they distorted

some of their voices to shit that it's not great,

but none of it's bad and Like I say for whatever

reason I think a lot of it too is there's a lot

of memorable moments to the movie That helped

a lot. I mean everybody remembers the Optimus

Prime Megatron fight and Optimus dying a lot

of people remember Starscream's coronation Like

they get through the characters Really quickly

and a lot of movies based on TV shows fail miserably

at that But in this one you get a real quick

sense of who Starscream is and Megatron, etc.

Etc I don't know. There's something about the

movie that just kind of works and I've never

been able to put my finger on it exactly. But

I was reasonably impressed that, you know, Sarah

and Stephanie were. Sarah definitely enjoyed

it. Stephanie was kind of like, eh, it's not

bad, but it's not great. So that was kind of

like who we went to the movies, who we went to

the movie with. What was your guys' audience

like? Like what was that comprised of? Mostly

adults. There were a couple of kids in ours.

Same here. I think the only actual kids were.

With the With my buddy ender. I think those were

the actual I don't remember seeing any other

kids. It's mostly adults They played for a week

here and almost all of them. It was mostly adults

and kids and that's the breakdown did anyone

dress up Not that I know of I wore a couple of

my transformer shirts, but that's about it same

here. I wore my I've got a shirt from Ripped

Apparel that has Cyclonus on the right, Galvatron

on the left, and Starscream on stage. It says,

Bad Comedy Night. I wore my Hawaiian Megatron

shirt from many years ago. With a tutu? No. And

Sarah wore the shirt created by Mrs. Wreck. Oh,

Lady Rek. Yes. Yeah, so she borrowed my shirt.

Yeah, it's funny you mentioned - And I wore pants,

which a lot of people were impressed with. Let's

hope you were wearing some sort of something.

Well, they would have been more impressed if

I didn't. Oh, anyway, so. So really quickly before

we move on we will actually be hearing from lady

rec Beatles Diva and ha he prime later in this

episode because I've pre -recorded a I can't

be on with these people. Yeah, they know that

either. They're not here. It's pre -recorded.

It's already done Maybe we're repeating the same

things. I've already said no I don't pay anybody.

I just blackmail them So so getting back to my

question, so my audience was comprised of essentially

what you would assume the majority, you know

transformer fans But there were some parents

there that had kids that I would say were probably,

you know, six between like six to eight in terms

of age range. There might have been a few that

were a little bit younger than that. But it wasn't,

you know, just guys. It was like there were guys,

there were girls, older people. I didn't see

one dress up as a transformer, but yeah, there

were plenty of people that had transformer shirts

on I had a number of transformer shirts, but

they're all t -shirts and it was cold today I

went to see it so I didn't wear those but but

yeah, I was actually surprised by the The diversity

in terms of the crowd size cold aren't you in

Detroit? You could have just tumbled a little

huddled up to a flaming barrel No, I'm not in

Detroit Darn. He's in Michigan. He's just not

in Detroit. I just assumed all of Michigan was

either Detroit or Flint. So either way, no fire

and there's no water. My water is safer to drink.

I just assumed there's none of it. So our audience

was mostly the parents with kids were parents

who obviously had seen the movie before. Yeah.

Which I got a kick out of. I think it's cool

that to joking and everything aside it's neat

that a lot of these people got to share it with

the younger generation or in my case share it

with a significant other that kind of thing and

i should note every single one of the kids cried

when optimus prime died at each showing and i'm

not kidding wait is this one is it a multiple

yeah i did yeah i went to more than once Hey,

why not? It's because you threw your VCR away

right and couldn't watch it at home Yeah, I mean

I've got the blu -ray, but all I can do is spin

it on my finger really fast, so it's not the

same Like why isn't this mini record working?

Record I keep trying to put in my a track player

So yeah, I Several things happened with our audience

somebody Basically, even at one point during

the movie, tried to play the touch on their phone.

They did it before it started, and they did it

as it was playing. I said, before the movie started,

I said, okay, so nobody's gonna cry, right? Everybody's

like, no promises. We're all adults here, come

on. The interesting thing with the show... Adults

can cry at movies, come on. Yeah. That's not

fair. what it's true you know i don't watch try

to watch feel the dreams and not cry at the end

of the movie regretted and number of movies but

i've ever read transformers the movie i did as

a child not since i was a kid did i cry during

this movie uh... The interesting thing and what

I like about the fathom events stuff. This is

the first fathom event I went to But what I think

is cool is it's its own thing. It doesn't have

the standard Three four five six ten previews

of whatever is coming It's basically because

basically fathom events are basically whatever

is on the DVD or whatever they add into the DVD

And they just play it on the screen kind of a

thing as far as I can tell as far as I know No,

I want to say we actually had trailers before

it. Did you really we did? Yeah, we are started

with the bumblebee special preview And then immediately

the DEG logo popped up after that. With the gong?

Yep, with the gong. Try hearing that gong and

shitty not 5 .1. Basically what Ryan's promoting

tonight, folks, is don't watch this movie in

Canada in theaters. Nah, I'd still recommend

it. Like I said, I was transfixed by it. It didn't

ruin it or anything. Just, well, I still enjoyed

it. But yeah, I would have been nice if it Now

is this probably not for Ryan. I don't know about

you Jesse This was my first time seeing this

on the big screen. I was six when this thing

came out I didn't get to see it until Late 87

early 88. I think I saw Duke survive before I

saw optimus die as a kid Yeah, this is my first

time seeing it at the movie theater. I hadn't

seen it since as a kid I didn't see it until

it actually came out on on VHS. Yeah same here

What about you Ryan? Had you seen this in theaters

or no? Yes, I was a kid and I wouldn't find out

until much later Because it traumatized me so

bad that I've just blocked it out it would be

12 year No, it would be nine years later. I watched

it on VHS when it got re -released in Canada

on VHS for the first time and I watched it and

I realized, wow, I've seen this before. Where?

And I had to think really hard and eventually

it came to me. But yeah, I just kind of blocked

it out because it traumatized me as a kid. Good

times. So you were that kid in the closet crying

over the death, right? You're that kid that wouldn't

come out of his room. No Yeah, it's interesting

seeing this on the big screen it I thought it

was great and I brought all my figures and I

reenacted the scenes Yeah, so I don't know What

was wrong with your audio when you saw it up

there in Canada, but I didn't experience any

of the tinny -ness that you were describing.

It sounded really good in my theater. Yeah, same

here. Well, they're gonna make up for not having

water somehow. No, I do have a question about

the Fathom events. So I pre -ordered tickets,

I want to say back in August. Is that when it

was announced or end of July? It was the end

of July. I pre -ordered mine, I think July 27th.

Okay, so the day that they became available or

no, I say that back they became available in

July It wasn't going to be playing in my area.

In fact, I even tweeted about it Mike and then

yeah comment on it And then it became available

at one of the local theaters, which I think was

in early August And that's when I pre -ordered

my tickets at that time. I want to say the Fathom

events page said Maybe I'm wrong. I don't have

it up right now. I don't know if it still exists,

but I want to say that They were giving away

free, I don't know if they were mini posters

or just regular sized posters while supplies

lasted. Yes. At the event. I didn't see any of

those. Dude, I... i pre -ordered like i was sitting

amy nicole and i were recording that night that

i was waiting for the fathom events thing to

go live i'm just clicking refresh clicking refresh

as we were doing uh... one of the comic ep episodes

for the pullback for the world was saying so

you recorded a podcast about you sitting there

click no waiting for stuff on no now that i know

this is the stuff you're adding to my podcast

terrible meaning you're about to have a talk

to my agents what they did you know damn agent

hell i'm your agent more than anybody else at

this point anyway uh... so i'm sitting there

waiting and waiting and waiting cuz you like

hey it's gonna go live at this time so we where

amy nicole and heather are throughout the u .s.

there closer to the west coast so i'm usually

up to one 2 -3 a .m. Eastern time kind of thing

and I'm just waiting for this thing to go live

so I can go ahead and get the tickets and whatever

else I was actually surprised it was in my area

because we just moved where we live now it's

35 minutes 40 minutes outside of Chicago and

yes Michael Bay still has the city destroyed

It, I was shocked. So I went and got, went and

purchased them and said, yeah, show up early

to get a poster while supplies last. We showed

up a half hour before the thing was supposed

to start. We showed up like 620, 630, something

like that central time. There was not, there

were posters and other things for other stuff,

but there was no Transformers posters at all.

Yeah, we showed up about 30 minutes early and

I didn't see anything. Yeah, no. There was supposed

to be and it did say while supplies last so So

the people who work at the movie theater probably

took what was there is what you're saying. Mm

-hmm No, no, no, so I mean I didn't really want

the poster anyway I wanted to see what the poster

was that's really like sure show up get a free

poster great i wanted to see it like i have my

transformers posters i don't need anything else

at this point i have one from the g one show

and i have the original movie poster kind of

thing so i just wanted to at least see the damn

thing if it was just gonna be a a poster size

version of livio remandelis thirtieth anniversary

dvd cover i don't need that would it be cool

sure but i don't need it So there was nothing

at your theater on Jesse no Yeah, usually with

that stuff the the theater employees usually

grab the best stuff most of the time Wow accusing

employees of theft on the national podcast This

is new low for you like anybody's gonna listen

to this That's usually my joke. Yeah. Well, I'm

on it now. See I don't have to listen to it Like

you were going to It was enjoyable I'm really

glad they did this I Again, I just think it's

neat that a younger generation Got to experiencing

experience it and I don't know to me. It doesn't

matter how you get into transformers like I'm

a fan of it if you Got into it through the Bay

movies. That's fine. Like they're not my jam,

but just cuz I'm not a fan doesn't mean you can't

be or stuff like that like the first one's still

pretty good. Oh, yeah, I still enjoy it and Like

I don't like what's happened in especially the

last few years with pretty much all fandom where

you either got in at Blank time or you're not

a real fan That bullshit. I always hate that

It's like the old truck not monkey discussion

for yep It's silly, you know, we said this last

week or a couple weeks ago when we did episode

163 There's something in transformers in the

franchise for everybody You don't have everybody

doesn't have to be a fan of the of the IDW comics

Although most of you should read them at some

point No one has to be a fan of g1 g2 like we

all have different things that we like in different

things that we don't really want to pay attention

to. What were you going to say, Jesse? I mean,

if we're talking toys, then the last however

many years has just been a rehash of G1 anyway.

So yeah, it's still going. I liked when they,

yeah, I liked the combined. Well, yeah, we're

getting off topic, but I liked the combiner wars

stuff because they took the IDW aesthetics and

kind of shifted. uh and then they got away from

that and now yeah just the siege stuff i don't

know i'm just my thing is at this point what

i've done is i have one of the characters that

i really like if it's a favorite character or

if it's someone like optimus or megatron i've

got more than one version of them usually because

I swear, even if you don't collect Transformers,

you probably still have two versions of Optimus

Prime somehow in your home. Like, I think they

just sneak in and put them there when you sleep.

But the characters I like, I've gone out and

I've got the, a lot of cases, third -party ones

or Masterpiece or whatever. Just my favorite

version of those characters. I don't need anymore.

Yeah, I don't even have the room to display them

if I get more so, you know, I've got I just got

a new Rodimus that I'm a huge fan of for example

I'm gonna sell off the like classics hot rod

I've got and that's just what I do and I just

kind of keep the best version of them because

I'm at the point where I've got the income for

the fancy schmancy third parties or masterpieces

and just You know if you can't do something different

That's in my opinion at least doesn't improve

on it. I'm not gonna bother picking it up anymore

I'm the room to keep everything Yeah, exactly

Can I bring us back on topic sure? Okay So so

might you mentioned people crying or was it that

was me? Okay, Ryan mentioned it then did you

guys get any other? reaction from the audience

While the movie was playing? I think it was mostly

pretty quiet. There were a number of scenes in

my viewing where people literally laughed out

loud. And I would say the majority of them were

Starscream scenes. So early on in the movie.

Yeah, there were chuckles at the Starscream stuff.

So kicking Megatron, the shuttle scene, and then

the coronation scene were all pretty big hits.

I'm sorry, I thought you meant kind of like out

of the ordinary reactions or in Blanchard's case,

people being dickbags during the movie or something.

Yeah, we got all that stuff, too, as far as the

laughs when he kicked him and that kind of thing.

I assume that in Detroit, Michigan, Jesse, that

where I don't live, everybody got angry when

Megatron one and just started shooting the screen.

I mean, that's true. That is true. It looked

like a Swiss cheese by the end, so that's all

the bullet holes. He's so evil. I'm going to

bust a cap in him. OK, so I've got one other

question for you guys. And this so I was doing

a little bit of show prep here before. We never

did that. That's not true. I said show notes.

Come on. So while Mike was doing whatever he

was doing and Ryan was looking at porn, I was

getting ready here for the show. Something like

that so so Mike you said that this was supposedly

the 30th anniversary edition of the film correct

Supposedly because simple and I could be wrong

I I'd have to ask fathom on Facebook or something

the only reason why I think it is is Because

it was also branded as a shout factory event,

and they're the ones that did the 30th anniversary

DVD blu -ray Okay, so So I don't so the only

two I actually own two versions on DVD. I've

got a couple of different versions on VHS as

well Somewhere, I don't know where But the DVD

versions I have are the Rhino one which has the

big yellow special collectors edition at the

top Yeah, it's the full frame and then I actually

have the 20th anniversary edition Which is both

the widescreen and the full screen by Sony BMG

So So I haven't seen the 30th anniversary version.

I was gonna buy it on Voodoo back when it came

out. Was that last year? Last year, right? No,

two years ago. No, two years ago. Holy shit.

It came out on... Actually, I think it came out

on August 8th. The release date. Time is going

way too fast. Yes it is. I might as well hold

out for the 35th anniversary then. Also, I should

I don't have the 30th anniversary to compare

But what I noticed while viewing it in the theater

and I noticed this on a number of different scenes

was the cropping of the frame and The show prep

that I did here Beforehand was I took the two

different DVDs that I have put in the three discs

So two full screen and one is the wide screen

and took screenshots of one particular scene

And that's when Unicron was giving Galvatron

his ship. And in each one of those, I guess I

can share them with you so you can see what I'm

seeing. If I can figure out this scape. There

you go. So just drop that in the chat. So this

first screenshot here, notice how dark it is?

Yep. So this is the 4 by 3 full screen version.

This one is from the Kid Rhino one. So that's

just the Special Collectors edition. The next

one here, the time code is really close. It's

not identical, but it's essentially pretty much

the same. So this is the full screen version

of the 20th anniversary. And then here is the

widescreen version of the 20th anniversary. So

first and foremost, looking at those, I can't

believe how different the colors are between

the widescreen and the full screen. But in each

one of those, so in the widescreen one there,

so the bottom one, you'll notice that you don't

see, like part of the top is cropped off, but

you still see where the door or the cargo bay

door, whatever that is that opens that the shuttle

comes out of. In my version that I viewed in

the theater, I saw none of that. I heard the

sound effect. I heard the sound effect of the

door opening. I didn't actually see any of that

that you see right there in that screenshot on

the screen. And I just saw the ship kind of drop

down. you know, from the top of the screen. So

that was the first scene that I noticed specifically

where the crop of the film was not correct. Later

on, when the Dinobots meet up with Wheely, this

is where we get everyone's favorite character.

There were a number of scenes where Grimlock's

head was cropped off on the top. And I'm like...

This can't be right. So I went back and I watched

the, I pulled up the DVD and I'm like, yeah,

they would have animated his head off the, you

know, off the frame. So I don't know if that

is the same in the 30th anniversary or what?

It is not. It is not. It is not. Go ahead, Ryan.

Yeah, I was just going to say, so the 30th anniversary

Blu -ray is correctly widescreen. Okay. As in

they didn't just stretch things or that kind

of thing. It also doesn't have they fixed a lot

of the animation issues and the coloring is much

different slash improved Okay, like real heavily

like hot rod Is the right color? It's funny you

mention it for the first time since 86 yeah,

it's funny you mentioned that because I actually

took over 15 screencaps of hot rod and sent them

to Brian Ward, who is the producer on the 30th

anniversary for Shout Factory, and basically

helped them, you know, make sure they could color

correct. I'm not taking credit for their work.

What I'm saying is, as a fan, I submitted, hey,

these are the pictures that, you know, these

are the best angles I can get of all of his...

Did you get a credit on that? No. No. I know

someone who did get credit on the movie, though.

And that is? Stan Bush? Leave us hanging? No,

Stan. Peter Cullen? Funny. Me who wrote the movie?

Right. Okay, Ron Friedman. That's as believable

as you helped them correct. What I'm saying is

though, I did send them... Brian Ward on Twitter

asked, hey, does anyone have... a lot of pictures

of hot rod or can they get us a lot can they

get me a lot of pictures of hot rod so we can

work on this i said yeah sure i'll email them

to you i emailed them 10 or 20 different pictures

of hot rod in various ways and yada yada ha ha

ha funny you said you blackmail people don't

look at me i'm not gonna blackmail the producer

at shout factory thank you i meant maybe you're

blackmailing hot rod a fictional character there's

nothing that they can get anyway the other person

that I know that got credited was Randall Nigg

he does the Dr. Smooth videos so yeah anyway

next topic Do we have a favorite scene still

after all this time like after seeing the movie

in theaters again? Is there a is there a scene

that you guys like the most Jesse? One Sure why

not Well, that's gonna be hard to do. Oh, come

on I guess if I have to narrow it down to one

then it's the so I'm a huge Starscream fan I've

said that on one of your podcasts in the past

so anything that Starscream is in especially

like because He's in a limited portion of this

movie, but the scenes that he's in it really

gets across his personality So anything is he's

in I absolutely love but I have to narrow it

down to one then it's definitely when You know

prime shows up on earth. He transforms. He's

gonna go kick it decepticon ass Yeah, I was just

going to say the Optimus Prime Megatron fight,

which to a certain extent includes that as well,

and the fact that they actually killed Optimus

Prime. I mean, it's true that it took some balls,

especially in the 80s. It didn't happen a lot.

No. Hence why Duke stayed alive and didn't die.

Yeah, Duke's okay. I just got a phone call Yeah,

he just got impaled through the chest. I'm sure

he's just gonna walk that off Yeah for me It

has to be like yes, I do agree and I do love

the optimus prime Megatron fight and all that

Your favorite scene was wheelie. Oh hell. No,

I'm not spayed over the hill you talk God stop,

please It has to be a hot rod and cups fight

with the shark to cons I oh I've always found

that hilarious Like that's that's the three stooges

moment of the movie regardless of where most

most people think The scene in that or the sequence

in that when the dinobots come in it's pretty

popular, too. Oh, yeah You know, the whole scene

with the soundtrack, that's a pretty good, pretty

good scene. Yep. Yeah, the soundtrack, for whatever

reason, is one of the other stars of the movie

that I forgot to bring up. And I know Sarah loved

it, and I know it's, let's be honest, it's kind

of cheesy. It drips in 80s -ness. Yes, it does.

It just, but for whatever reason, again, it works

perfectly in this movie. Like, I couldn't imagine

listening to this with another amount of music

or an orchestral score or, you know, something

like that. Yeah. The majority of it is the majority

of it is either Stan Bush or Vince or whoever

songs. Yeah. Or, you know, Spectre, General,

Lion, whatever. Or it sounds at half the time.

Everyone else in the soundtrack. Yeah, I was

just going to sit there and list them, and then

I decided not to. Or sometimes it sounds like

somebody leaned over on a keyboard. And either

way, it just works really well, so. Yeah. I love,

I think it's the 25th anniversary or the, no,

maybe 25th to 30th. Whenever Vince put out his

25 track score. 25th anniversary version. I think

it is. It's the one they just put out on LP a

couple years ago for the last BotCon which happened

here. It happened in Louisville, Kentucky. Kind

of a thing. I love that score because I love

that version of the score because I hear things

in that score that I have never heard in this

movie. In the music specifically. I looked over

to my wife at the junkie on scene and I'm like...

You do realize they put a Weird Al song in here,

right? She goes, that's Weird Al. I'm like, yup.

She just shook her head. She couldn't recognize

Weird Al. I don't know if she listens to a lot

of Weird Al, but yeah. Speaking of Weird Al,

so we mentioned our favorite scenes. What about

Lee's favorite? The reason I bring up Weird Al

is because I absolutely hate that dance scene.

for me on that not a big fan of wheelie and how

his voice is distorted and everything else as

well but the biggest issue I had with the dance

scene and everything too is it's even less enjoyable

when the junkie on voices make your ears bleed

so there's that yeah the dance scene is a little

much I mean I get it they're there you know Enjoying,

you know all being friends via Bob we've grown

out we've nitty -bong and I like they're basically

dancing on the corpse of ultra Magnus and about

20 seconds later They realize shit ultra Magnus

is dead and we're sad They're like, oh, they're

like, oh he's back together. Oh, wait, the matrix

is gone and we're boned. Yeah now we're sad again

Yeah, there's some tone shifts there but they

got a bag they win yeah Well, yeah, temporarily,

I guess. But I loved seeing this in theaters.

I'm glad I was able to do it all these years

later, because I'm sure I would turn out a different

person if I ended up seeing this in theaters

when I was six years old. So I think we're gonna

take a quick break and you're gonna hear some

audio and some other stuff as well as Lady Rack,

Beatles Diva, and Haji Prime give us their thoughts

on their showings. We'll be back after this.

It isn't even dead! Oh shit, what are we gonna

do now? I can't deal with that now. Alright folks,

it is time to talk to the Fembots of all things

Transformers, and I... What? Huh? Femcon. Whatever.

They always make my life harder than it actually

is, folks. Especially Nicole. Don't go there.

So, with me I have Nicole aka BeatlesDiva. Hello.

Bonjour. Aloha. Hahi Prime is also here. Hello.

And of course, the lady of wreck, Amy, is here

as well. You're putting me at the very end of

the caboose again, dude. Oh, stop it. Hey, caboose

is awesome. I love caboose. That's a completely

other podcast. Yes. That's the Nicki Minaj honoree

podcast, right? Talk about the art of noise.

I was thinking of red versus blue, but now I'm

traumatized. Oh boy. Alright, so we are here

to get the Fembots' reactions to the announcement

of the event of Transformers the movie from Fathom

Events being released in theaters one night only,

which was this past week, Thursday, September

27th, 2018, and... What their reactions were

when they were actually at the event? I did go,

but you've heard my stuff around this part of

the episode folks Nicole and Heather went together

to this to see this now. What was We had a little

date. It was awesome You went with your kids

yeah, but it's not the same as going with other

fans See okay, so that's what that's what because

the Heather and I were just like we were looking

at you know Going we're like let's get tickets

and like we're looking for a theater I'm like,

oh this theater doesn't have a whole lot of seats

sold out. I'm like, no, I kind of want to go

where there's Lot of seats are already sold out,

you know to be where other fans are at So it's

just like okay So I told Heather that I'm like

I kind of went to the theater that had a lot

more tickets already sold And I was like, I hope

you don't mind Yeah, because when we went to

the theater then we walked in and there was just

a row of guys that were always because we went

in there fairly early there's a row of guys there

and we just started chatting with them and it

was pretty awesome. It was like walking into

tfcon or botcon or something where you're just

instantly in the same zone with everybody where

we're like yep we know all the in jokes we we

have we've got the secret language code going

on. You go in and you look at each other like

hey you're wearing the same swag I'm wearing.

Cool. Yeah, cool. We're all from the 80s. Cool.

I think we should all say what shirt we wore.

Oh, yes. I wore a shirt that, you know, had the

names. So it just said Unicron and Galvatron

and Cyclonus and Scourge on it with their correlating

colors. Awesome, and I wore my Quintessos serial

joke shirt, which is like the encapsulation of

the movie and his joy. I wore a hot pink baby

doll shirt that said Transformers on it and it

has prowl, iron hide, and I believe slag. That's

random. One of the dino -bots on a legoine. I

don't remember which dino -bot, but yes, yes.

I had two out of three of those didn't make it

through the movie. Obviously. I had the ripped

apparel comedy night shirt. It's comedy night

on the top with Starscream on stage, Cyclonus

on the left, and Galvatron on the right. Course

as soon as I came home I changed into my wheeljack

custom shirt Which I'm glad I didn't actually

wear to the movie cuz you know wheeljack kind

of dies Spoiler that's why I wore my concert

because they're awesome. Yeah They were created

mine were born from the movie booyah Megatron

and Galvatron are just the same guy so We could

get into this debate another time In the movie

they are the same guy Okay in the movie, okay

Yeah, look when I when I went to the theater

a lot of people that came in it looked like I

could tell that the dude was a fan, because he

was wearing swag. And I think there were a couple

of people that looked like they had dragged their

wives. Because they were, of course, getting

up and going out every so often, getting snacks

and stuff like that. And I had the most silent.

theater ever, because this is the third time

I've seen it on the big screen. Once when I was

a kid, once after BotCon, I think 2009 or 2011,

one of those two at a bridge, and then this one.

And so I didn't actually, I've had the fan opportunity

to hang out with fans after a convention. Of

course, we were all hyper and it was wild. But

this time around is like, everybody was in this

contemplative, you know channeling their inner

such heroic nonsense because nobody clapped nobody

said woohoo nobody did anything there wasn't

a whistle it was like you could have heard a

pin drop and then the movie started nobody was

wild I was like geez you guys are very well behaved

for fans we had we had we had a good audience

huh Heather we had a pretty good audience but

it's it felt still a little It was only about

half full and it was quiet. We were the ones

doing all the talking. Well, we were also spread

out because we had those the lounger seats. So

we couldn't hear what other people were saying

or talking about it. So and yeah, well, the first

half, the there wasn't really any seats, you

know, in the first half, you know, but it looked

like when I stood up the one time most of the

seats were sold from the in the back half of

the theater. That's good, that's good. It looks

like mine was pretty, at least all the seats

behind us, most of them. It was a good showing,

I'd say. At the same time, when I bought tickets,

I got an email or a Facebook alert from a bunch

of Transformer fans that are in the area, and

they all got together down about an hour and

a half. South of me and so I was like, oh, sorry

guys I can't come because I've already got tickets

and I bring in the kids I'd really like to go

and hang out and like I was getting alerts from

that like like they got together after like Work

and we're hanging out for a couple hours before

the movie even started. I was like went great

I've been I'm being the mom. I'm up. I'm being

responsible. I Can't go Oh, that's really good.

I mean, like, okay, so, you know how it is, as

kids we went, you know, my mom endured it. She

went and took me and all that. But like, I was

not the mom that's like, oh, I'm gonna endure

this again. I was like, no, I was quoting the

movie the most of the time. And as soon as one

of the other guys saw that I was, one of the

other kids saw that I was, the reckless, saw

that I was quoting it, they started turning to

me and quoting it too. It was great. Because

I asked Heather, Are you bringing the kids? And

she's like, no. And when I went to, we went to

pick her up. I'm like, do the kids know you're

going here? And she's like, Nope. I was like,

I can't afford to take all of them. And the other

part of it, but yeah, mostly. I'm just a skin

flint. So I was like, Nope, don't have the money.

No, but, but let me tell you, Heather did something

amazing before we went to the show. Cause I'm

like, cause we wanted to go out to eat before

I'm like, you pick the place. And she's like,

well, what do you want? I'm like, I'm not picky

when it comes to food. Look at me. Come on. So

she found the absolute most perfect place to

eat. It was called bumblebees. It was so awesome.

It was this bright yellow and red restaurant

that sold Korean food. And it had like, what

was the sign on the wall? This like Bumblebee.

Oh, Bumble stinks so good. Yeah. It was the best.

But when she saw that, she's like, well, I've

got a couple options. And there's this one place.

Now she's like, it's called Bumblebee's. I'm

like, we're going. It's going. I was like, nothing

else can really compare. That's awesome. It was

awesome. And it was so good. It really was good.

So I gotta give kudos to Heather for picking

that up man. Wow, that was awesome. We'll pimp

the local restaurant on this podcast. So come

through here. We're in Utah and you happen to

be in the area. Where's it at? It's actually

not too far from the Convention Center. Provo

convinced her. Not that far. Very awesome. Yeah,

if we can convince TFCon to ever come to like

Provo or Salt Lake, we can totally hook people

up. They should. They should. We're the geek

capital of the nation. Hello. Nice. So next question,

Mike. What questions do you have for us? Questions?

I don't know. Swaggy poster that they had How

early did you have to show up to get it? That

next year when levio comes to the comic -con

here that I can get up there stuff signed it

like Yeah, it was just there on the counter and

then when we left we picked up a couple more

for others kids yeah ours didn't even have it

like they said they were gonna have it we showed

up at like six forty five or six forty or something

we showed up basically twenty minutes before

the movie was supposed to start and they had

a bunch of other stuff out on the counter and

things but they didn't even have the poster anymore

I just I came in actually because I went to a

place that had reserved seats. So I reserved

our seats ahead of time went and sat down. The

movie didn't start for like it was supposed to

start at seven. It started at seven fifteen.

I had enough time because I saw people coming

in with the posters and like. I guess it wasn't

a very busy night because it was Thursday here,

which is not a very busy night. But when I walked

in, they didn't have anybody to take my tickets.

So I just literally was like, well, I bought

them online, and I have them right here in my

hand. And so I just walked in. There wasn't anybody

to, you know, to scan or anything. Walked right

in, sat down, saw people come in with posters.

I said, hey, where do you get those at? They're

like, oh, when you get your buy your tickets,

they give it to you. I was like, oh, great. So

I had to go all the way to the front. And the

kids were like, we want one, we want one. I was

like, we'll get it afterwards. But they might

be gone. So I was like, OK, fine. I've seen the

movie about a bazillion times. So you guys stay

here. I walked to the front, got to the front,

and I said, hey, I bought my tickets online.

And I can show them to you if you need me to.

But hey, I actually just came here to see, do

you have any posters left? And they're like,

oh, yeah, sure. And so they gave me three posters.

And I took them back and gave the kids theirs.

I said, do you want me to hang onto them? They

tossed them back to me, of course. Mom's are

the mules Yeah, just kept it from getting all

bent and stuff like that. But yeah. Yeah, that

was poster. Yay Nicole had the good idea to take

the poster to TF con and get everybody to sign

it and I told the kids I would do that and they're

like super excited now Awesome. Yeah, and then

I figure I'll give I got, just like Nicole said,

a couple of extra ones. So I'll give those to

people who couldn't make it to the show that

I know. You're so awesome. What was it? OK, so

this version, because as we all know, there are

plenty of versions of this movie, but we are

at the definitive version at this point with

Shot Factory releasing the 30th anniversary DVD

and Blu -ray a couple of years ago. uh... and

that was what this version was now they did preface

this with the bumblebee preview i will tell us

that will talk about that in a minute uh... was

all about the bumblebee preview in a minute for

the new movie coming out this christmas i was

surprised that and i know this is a fathom events

thing and i was told that fathom events is just

basically dvd the dvd or blue ray or whatever

it is you know basically upscale to the big screen

kind of a thing I was surprised that, I don't

know what your all's showings had, but mine just

started with the DEG logo, like the actual opening

of the film. It didn't really do anything before

that. Yeah, because I told Heather, I mean I've

been to several Fathom events. They start right

on time and of course there's a lot of people

that came in late because you're like, oh we

don't worry we got 20 minutes of previews. No.

No. Now if you guys are listening to this Fathom

event starts right on time. They usually might

have a little bit at the beginning. Except mine.

Yeah, that's weird, because sometimes they'll

have... Maybe they were having problems with

the connection or something. Maybe. Usually they

have someone from Turner Classic movies come

on and say a little bit of what's going on with

the show, and it gives a little bit of trivia

here and there, and then boom, they start the

show. This one, they actually had the Bumblebee

preview, a little preview beforehand. So yeah,

I was ready for it. I was ready for it to start

on time. because I've been to Fathom events several

times. Cool. It was neat. I was there to pay

attention to all the details I hadn't noticed

before. Especially since you're on a really,

really big screen. You're not just on a little

small computer screen. I was super intently looking

at all the details. noticing how the backgrounds

have been painted and being like a total art

dork nerd. It was awesome because the one part

I turned to Heather and like, oh my gosh, this

is absolutely gorgeous, is of course the big

Megatron and Optimus fight and Megatron's like

in the shadows. Oh my gosh, it looks so beautiful

on the big screen. I was like, oh my gosh, look

at this. This is amazing. Because I would never

got to see on the big screen ever in my life.

I haven't either. I grew up in a small town where

the nearest theater was like 45, 50 miles away,

and it came out in the winter. Well, you're screwed.

So you're going across the flatlands, you know,

risking winter in your life to go watch. Good

times. Yeah. So the Bumblebee preview, what do

we think? I'm excited. I was really thrilled

with a couple of details about it. I've kind

of tried to go back now and kind of look at things,

but I've never really said any critical things

about the movie verse designs and things like

that. But something that, I guess maybe now I

notice it just because of the shift in this.

And I did tweet about this, so maybe some people,

if you're following me on Twitter, you probably

already heard this. I really, really dug what

they're doing with the design of Bumblebee. Specifically,

I love his eyes. And the reason being is because,

and I noticed it right off the very beginning,

because I tend to look at people in the face

and in their eyes. I've got an autistic kid that

didn't do it for the longest time, and it was

really driving me nuts. But he does it now. But

back when he was a little kid, he wouldn't look

you in the eye, because he just didn't like that.

I have a big thing about eyes, and when I saw

the preview that instantly, I was just like,

oh, oh, I like that, ooh, ooh, ooh, I really,

really like that, because it has this depth to

it. And I probably, if I was just watching just

a little preview, like, you know, in my... browser

window at home I probably wouldn't even notice

it but because we were on a big screen seeing

a couple minute a couple whatever however I think

was like a two or three minute long um preview

of the movie and the first thing I saw was that

went oh I like that. I really, really like that,

especially since, I mean, if you think about

it, a lot of the reviews that have come out over

the years over the Transformers movies is the

fact that they're just like chess places being

moved around on screen. We don't get any depth

about their character. The fact that there was

characterization in this and we actually get

to see. you know his eyes the way that they are

just like okay you've got me excited about this

i kind of do want to go to this movie i kind

of hope that it really really works yesterday

i went and um watched kubo and the two strings

and it's made me even more excited so i'm going

okay can we actually be a little excited about

this i mean after having five movies and disappointment

um you know what this might actually work Nicole

do you want to tell about the awesome um standee

they had oh yeah so you probably had some in

your theater we had they have this big huge you

know movie promo of bumblebee and we walked past

it i'm like his eyes are moving those eyes are

moving and we're just like and of course me and

Heather are like i'm like i gotta get it we gotta

get a picture in front of it so there's this

little little old guy sitting there he took a

really cute picture of us and it was so fun oh

my gosh i love that standee i'm pretty sure you

guys's theaters well one of your theaters might

have it but yeah if you just look at it it'll

follow you and it's amazing and I'm just like

it felt like it came to life and I'm just like

oh my gosh I'm so excited I truly am excited

for this movie and people have judged me because

I'm excited for a Transformers movie and I'm

like I don't care I I'm excited for my documentary

as I call them it's my documentary because it's

about a girl who's my age who had my car who

had my haircut this is my documentary Nice. This

is Nicole. It doesn't matter that her name is

Charlie. It's actually really Nicole. So disregard

all of that. You know, government secrets, you

know? Her secret name is Charlie. Exactly. I

keep on telling everyone, it's a documentary

about my life with my VW. They had to change

the names to protect the innocent. Exactly. They

had to change the names to protect the innocent

parties that were involved, but it is my story.

Thank you. And Nicole, of course, your code name

is Charlie because we are the angels on this

podcast. It's been 11 years since the first film

came out. In 11 years, we're finally getting

a brand new director. Yay! Travis Knight is the

director of Bumblebee. As Amy said, he did Kubo

and the Two Strings. One of the best movies of

all time. If you haven't seen it, definitely

get it and bring tissue because I was bawling

by the end. Remember that's what I told you Heather.

I'm like I don't want to see it cuz I'm not ready

to cry yet. Oh This is even better when I right

at the very end my son comes in to give me hugs

are you crying? Yes, I'm crying he's like why

I think it's such a good movie. He's like, but

it's making you cry They're still crying in Kubo

the two strings. Yes, there is this is a it's

a good cry i said it's not a it's a not a bad

cry it's such a it's such a good it's a good

movie it's a good cry these are happy tears i

swear no but i like i like the humanity that

you filled with bumblebee with that that preview

there was no music in the background it was just

charlie and b yeah but i'm okay with that because

they characterized him And you can just feel

the raw emotion Because she's trying to to you

know comfort him and we don't know exactly what's

gone on with him I mean if you see any other

trailers you you know what's going on, but just

to know that That there's something going on

it and she has the humanity Yeah humanity to

treat this creature who's not organic as as someone

with feelings and life, and I love that. I love

Charlie already. I'm like, I love this girl.

It's gonna be awesome. This is getting it right.

All of the... You know how... Okay, so when the

last night was coming out, I really felt like

the girl... I can't remember her name, but I

liked her. I felt like she was gonna be the character

that we all... imagine ourselves to be the person

who gets to hang out with the giant robots. And

this looks like it's going to be that done right.

Not just the sub -character that we just had

for a few minutes, and oh, that's really cute

and great, but they ticked the checkbox off on

that one. And then it was actually somebody else

who was the main character. So anyway, yeah,

he was so impressed. We forgot her name Anybody

cry on that on that deathbed in the movie I'm

immune at this point even No, but it did still

look good. I mean it was man when you can hear

the music louder and surrounding you in the theater.

I mean, the score really, really puts it to you.

And you're just like, wow. I'm just like, I'm

trying to put myself back when I was eight years

old and this came out. And I'm just like, oh

my gosh. I'm just like, it still amazes me that

back in the day, they actually killed off an

iconic hero for children. The impact that it

created and you're just like and i'm I went back

then I was just like me and heather were having

this conversation They would probably not do

that these days, you know I mean it more than

just you know G well, well the thing is if they

did that these days you would know Well, that's

the thing you would know about months in advance

Well because of the social media, you know about

it weeks in advance so you prepare yourself back

then This was a shocker, just like no one knew

that Optimus was going to kick the can. You know,

you're just like, oh, you know, and I, I, I kind

of missed that, you know, that emotion. So to

see, to see that death bed scene again, I was

just like, oh, wow. Wow. It didn't save my kids.

I took them to see it now. And I told him, I

said, after, after we saw it. got in the car,

I said I was probably a few years older than

my middle son who's 11. I was probably about,

I was either 10, nine or 10 when I saw it on

the big screen when it first came out. So I wasn't

much older than he is, maybe by a year or two

younger than him. And I showed it to him when

they were a little bit younger than that. because

I had the DVD and stuff. So I've shared it with

them earlier than that. But yeah, you're right.

You're not going to see stuff like that nowadays.

Everything's Disney -fied. But yeah, now that

I think about it, I didn't cry at his death.

Because you know you're in the situation you're

listening to this and you know I was like Don't

don't get me wrong there. It was kind of emotional

to see that but I wasn't like bawling about I

was like, oh man This really just gonna kick

me in the heart right here. Boom Yeah, I was

mostly just watching the technical aspects of

it like how was this made how Yeah, I just found

it really interesting to kind of analyze it in

that way this time Yeah, look at it as a piece

of work. Yeah. Absolutely. Um, yeah. In the theater,

seeing, you know, for the first, cause I hadn't

seen it either when I was a kid, I was seven

or eight by the time I caught it on VHS. Cause

back then in the olden days, folks, you know,

stuff didn't hit, you know, media very fast as

it does today. Movies are in theaters, you know,

At least a year or or something or at least six

months or more Whereas nowadays movies will be

in theaters for six months and then the DVD blu

-ray Digital whatever will be out. Yeah. Yep

Absolutely All right, anything else you ladies

want to bring up before we get the heck out of

here? Oh, do you guys stay at the after credits?

Yes Stan Bush, I thought that was awesome. I

want to get those acoustic versions. Yeah, I

was going to say, I didn't expect that. And to

see that afterwards, I was like, oh, it's acoustic.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, I can't wait. I want to get that.

I was like, I wonder if it's YouTube. I want

to do that again. Oh, it's Stan Bush. It'll be

up on YouTube. He likes this. It was fun. Yeah,

it just made me feel I'm like when he was talking

and everything I'm just like man I really wish

I could have been at TF nation this year when

he was there and everyone was rocking out, you

know Yeah, I kept telling Nicole I'm like you

should have seen everybody's videos on Twitter

and everybody was being adorable and excited

and I loved it. Yeah Especially that one with

Nick Thank you, Amy. I was like, somebody squee

with me about how cute Nick was. I kid you not.

I was sitting when that went live. I thought,

OK, I can't wait. I got to click this. It looks

like Nick's in this one. I was like, oh my goodness.

So I click on it. I was crying happy tears before

the end going, oh my gosh. I was having a meltdown

over that one. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh! Is that

when we saw Randall Ng's name? the end credits

of that and we were like okay so the movie ends

and we're in kind of a subdued theater so everybody

kind of does subdued applause like nobody lost

their minds and then we're watching you know

the people who stayed about half the theater

left and people who stayed to watch the stan

bush thing we stayed at the end and we're just

like chilling and then it gets to the end credits

we see randall lings name and we do like the

loudest applause anybody has done What you should

have been was like Randall we know that guy so

much fun and thank you Heather for joining me

Thomas I was so fun to see Thanks for like being

the person who thinks of getting together We're

like we gotta do this we gotta make this happen

the moral of the story everybody find a friend

and do them Yeah, you know, there's another movie

coming out in a couple months. Oh, we already

got planned Maybe I'll fly down or fly up there

and we'll go see it all together. And if you

are still in denial that it's not a documentary

about me, it comes out the day before my birthday,

I believe. So come on, it's my birthday movie

and it's about me. It's my documentary. I just

need more John Cena in my life. But you can't

see him. All right, so Letting the ladies compose

themselves at least Nicole. Anyway, we're gonna

get back to Jesse Ryan and I and close out the

show after this We are back here in all things

transformers enough for a piss break man Did

you have to go to the bathroom? No, I was just

or are you saying you did go to the bathroom?

During the right my pants man. Yeah, I was gonna

say in which case since you didn't leave Yeah,

that's very disturbing. That's about as disturbing

as how you know the wheelie on the planet of

junk so transformers the movie Better or worse

than three episodes of the new adventures of

Eman Mike Like alright, so this is funny that

you even mentioned that because I believe you're

watching it. So well, yes, but see here's the

Here's the thing the is it the next episode that

I'm releasing one of the episodes Yeah, okay

So episode 99 of the powers of grayskull series

podcast features an episode of new adventures

of he man called rock into the future I'm basically

saying this right here and right now. Yes, I

understand everyone hates this certain episode

that I'm going to be mentioning, but I am going

to be putting in clips from Carnage and C -Minor

from Season 3 to replace Rock into the future

because that Transformers episode is single -handedly

better than the New Adventures of E -Man episode.

Even though Carnage and C -Minor is kind of bad.

I regret bringing this up. It's your fault, see?

This is a series that takes place in space or

something? Yes, New Adventures of He -Man. It

was in 1990 when it aired. It was after the Filmation

era. Yeah, I never watched it. I watched the

original. Don't watch it. It's not worth it.

It's absolutely not worth it. Transformers the

movie, Fathom Events. I dug it. I thought it

was cool. I don't know how many other if I get

to go to other fathom events kind of thing that

I would go to it just it's going to depend on

what it is like as of right now between 2013

and now I've seen two movies in theaters that

I had not seen when I was a kid I saw Top Gun

in 2013 when it was released to theaters for

a limited time and then I've seen that I've seen

Transformers the movie so what I do think is

great is that able to, you know, we're able to

go back and see some of the stuff we didn't get

to see as kids in theaters. I think that's cool.

And as Ryan said, you know, passing the torch

onto a new generation, if you have kids kind

of a thing where, you know, you can show it to

them, you know, in theaters, I think traumatize

them. No, stop the way I was traumatized, make

them all cry. It's what I'm telling you. Uh huh.

Probably these are the same people. They probably

took all their kids to see Infinity War. I don't

want to go, Mr. Stark. Oh, and that movie is

a cliffhanger. Well, everybody's dead at the

end, so if you really mean you could tell your

kids like, I don't think they're coming back.

This is why I'm not allowed to have children.

Oh wow. I'll give Jesse some ideas on parenting

though, it'll be good. Oh boy. I can do a parenting

podcast with you, how about that? Actually, anyway,

we'll talk about that offer. Any other final

thoughts, Jesse? No! Now you're gonna sit and

enjoy your Sonic the Hedgehog marathon. Which

version? Let's not get into this now, please.

Let's stay on topic Final thoughts Jesse first

time you ever told me that No, it's really not

You know better than that my final thoughts on

Fathom on the event in general. Oh What does

he say this is my first time going to fathom

event so? So I guess I don't know what what the

extra money kind of went for right I don't feel

like I it was anything super special yeah like

i've gone to like local small movie theaters

that have shown um you know essentially dvd versions

of a film more specifically like around halloween

so like oh you know go to like a local small

theater to see uh friday the 13th or the halloween

film or whatever and it's generally like a really

cheap uh ticket So for this it was like this

build is like the special event one night only

at least here in the u .s. Yeah So we paid a

little bit more money for a ticket than what

I generally would at the movie theater didn't

get my poster So I don't know and we did get

that sneak preview of bumblebee Which like I

said was just an extended version of the trailer

or the teaser or whatever So I don't know that

I necessarily got my money's worth But I was

happy to finally actually see it in the movie

theater seat up on the big screen Like I said

in the version that I saw Didn't sound teeny

what I wasn't listening to it through a tin can

I don't know that was actually true five one.

I'm assuming it was it sounded like it was surround

sound So I overall I had a really great experience.

I just don't know that it was you know worth

the extra fathom event price But I was really

happy to finally see it on the big screen. The

Fathom Events price here in the US, I believe,

was $12 .50 apiece. I think we ultimately ended

up paying after taxes and whatever else, just

under $30. I felt like I was OK. I just wanted

to see the movie on the big screen. Until I actually

saw the Fathom Events. Post on Facebook. I didn't

even know about the free poster at first So I'm

not like what I like I said the beginning of

the podcast whatever I would have liked to have

seen what the poster was But doesn't really matter

I loved seeing the movie on the big screen because

I never had before Kind of a thing and if I really

want to watch it again, I'm obviously gonna watch

the 30th anniversary edition So yes about you

sorry, I just I was looking at my my my card

here. I spent 26 with tax and I think there was

like a dollar processing fee for doing it online

or whatever. It was $26 .70. So normally a ticket,

at least in my area, is like roughly $9 something,

slightly less than $10. So it's a little bit

of a premium on there, but I guess it wasn't

too bad. Not too bad. What about you, Ryan, since

you saw it like multiple times on multiple days?

I was just happy to enjoy it with different people

but the big one was the first showing that I

went to with Sarah and there were four others

with us two other couples and it was neat to

see it with two people that had never seen it

before and kind of share the experience because

that's not something you necessarily get like

it's not the same if you sit on the couch and

You play it on the TV, even if you've got a really

nice set up and that kind of holding your phone

watching porn in the other hand Listen how you

watch movies is up to you. Don't look at me Anyway,

wow. Yeah, just enjoy it It was definitely worth

it I was happy to I was personally happy to see

it on the big screen again, too And I was really

happy that for the most part everybody else enjoyed

it Yeah, same here Where can the people find

you online Jesse? I Mean I guess you can find

me on Twitter. I don't know my Twitter handle

is is it matrix underscore prime I guess You

can also find me on YouTube. It's youtube .com

slash matrix prime no underscore and on Facebook

I'm not on Facebook Yes, it's youtube .com slash

matrix prime no underscore whoa video playing

What do you think what do you think my number

one video is from month to month So I should

preface this by saying I really don't put out

any sort of normal content anymore on any regular

basis Yeah, ever since they took away the partnership.

I don't put shit out Like oh if you can't hit

these numbers well forget it It's not worth it

because no one can hit those numbers unless you're

producing daily or hourly content So they haven't

taken that away from me yet Well, you must have

you must have the numbers then well, so so just

take a wild guess as to what my my number one

video is every month Optimus Prime review Ryan

The time you reviewed To shaker? I don't know.

No, so back on February 8, 2012, I recorded a

video on how to make homemade dill pickles. Oh,

jeez. I threw it up there, and that's the number

one video every month. Wow. You should add to

it. Just see if there's a new way to do it. Well,

so I had a follow -up that I added on there that

was shortly after I recorded that one. I did

have another cooking video that I threw up there.

which has gotten some views, but nowhere near

as the number on the Dill Pickle video. You should

just do Dill Pickle recipes and just be the Dill

Pickle channel. So I thought about getting like

the goggles with like the big nose and the mustache

and getting like a chef's hat and like doing

like a personality and recording cooking videos.

But you could be cooking with Grimlock. I think

there's actually a Facebook fan page called Cooking

with Grimlock, so that's probably why I said

that. What about you, Ryan? Where can the people

find you online? At NightBeat on Twitter. Awesome.

I am at TFG1Mike. You can follow at AllThingsTFV3

on Twitter for all the show updates. Follow at

GeekCastRadio for all the other GeekCastRadio

stuff. We will catch you next time here on All

Things Transformers when... Any of us could be

back. None of us might be back. I don't know.

I gotta talk to Steve and see what he wants to

do. Do you have a topic for the next show? I

don't know yet. We can talk about that afterwards.

Transform, roll out. I don't know. I'm not sure.

Transform, roll out. Transform, transcend, all

that good stuff. We will catch you next time,

folks, here on All Things Transformers. Rimlock

need new strategy. He just hopes some like news

breaks weekly. That's what we had to do. Till

all are one.