CINEMA GEEKS
Confessing Our Biggest Movie Blind Spots

About this Episode
Main Attraction: Film List: Top 10 List of Shame Films
Question: What was the biggest surprise revealed by the hosts?
Geeks:
Kevin @OptimusSolo
Dan @MovieRevoltDan
Amanda @HardCandiMandi
Matt @FridleyCent
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Hello and welcome to episode 96. The cinema geeks.
I am one of your cinema geeks optimus solo and
joining me for episode 96 is hard candy Mandy.
Hello Movie revolt Dan. Hello. Hey, how's it
going? Not too bad and For the set. How's it
going, sir? Pretty good. I got my gloves on I'm
gonna take you all on And what he's referring
to is today in episode 96 we're gonna do something
we've never done before and we'll say that this
is somewhat of a precursor to things that will
be coming up soon and we are going to enter the
confessional and expose our top 10 films on our
list of shame aka Blind spots movies that we're
ashamed that we haven't seen yet biggest regrets
biggest misses or whatever you want to call it,
but we're all gonna be letting it out of the
bag here and letting people know what we haven't
seen and then I'm sure we'll have a plethora
of comments on the website as to questioning
how we could have not seen these different shows
or different movies and i'm sure they'll be some
reactions on the actual podcast as well i have
no idea which direction this is going to go or
what films are going to be on any of your list
but it should definitely be interesting to see
what we all haven't seen like i said it'll be
a precursor to something that's coming up in
relation to episode one hundred which is right
around the corner dan let's start with you uh...
as we kind of Decided to do this as a project
and let this all out there What was your thought
process and how did you go about narrowing down
the list to only ten? Hey the way I kind of looked
at it like I looked at it as a list of shame
in the sense of you know movies that You would
think even the general public have probably seen
or ones that are Specifically one that I would
find enjoyable that I have no excuse not to watch
like there are you know If I go to the site and
sound pole, which is like the best movie of all
time There's tons of movies on there that I have
not seen but I think Majority people in the world
have not seen those either that have not gone
to film school or not professional critics But
so I went more so with movies that for people
that know me or know that I'm in the movies would
be really shocked that someone would not see
those. So these are, I think, more general based.
There might be some that are more classical in
some ways, so it's because it's a type of genre
or type of film that I really wanted to see,
but for some reason I failed at doing so just
because I'm lazy, I guess. Yeah, a lot of similar
thought process I you know was first off looking
at just like the ones that would just be like
those eye catchers, you know, just the general
public would be confused as to why I hadn't seen
that. I also thought a little bit about like
our podcasting community and, you know, movies
that a lot of people rave about that maybe I
haven't seen. I did try to keep it varied though.
I could have easily made a top 10 list and it
could have just been like the most famous or
classic horror films of all time because I haven't
seen any of them. So, I mean, I could have done
that, but I tried to make it a little bit more
of a variety by picking a whole bunch of different
things. I also am going to admit right up front,
and be open about it that I am gonna cheat the
heck out of this. I'm not ashamed that I'm gonna
be the biggest cheater on the planet when it
comes to this list. I might as well be hitting
700 foot home runs and my head might as well
be three times the size it was when we started
the podcast originally because the only difference
between me and Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa right
now is that I'm openly admitting that I'm gonna
be cheating. So from the beginning to the end,
I will find ways to cheat. So, just wanted to
get that out there. Matt, how did you go about
narrowing your list down to ten? I tried to do
what you guys said, like I didn't go with anything
too crazy or out there. Every movie I'm gonna
list everyone out there should have heard of.
But I did try to anytime anyone had ever suggested
like, I'm surprised you haven't seen that or
like you really need to see that. I tried to
get that down. I think I covered all of those.
I even asked the guy who yells at me daily. And
got one or two more from him before finishing
my list Just like imagine that you walking up
to him what movies have you usually yelled at
me the most about Go with us. That's funny. That's
how most of our conversations go Can you replay
every film you've ever yelled at me at least
in the last year to for not seen Amanda what
about you? How did you go about narrowing down
your list? Think I focused on stuff that I know
was either pop culture or like a household name
something that is super recognizable But also
some things that are a little personal like damn
I love this actor or whatever and this is kind
of one of those More popular movies or movie.
I just was kind of said that I hadn't seen yet.
It's a little bit of mix of both Yeah, it's definitely
a hard project. I Jotted down just a general
films that I hadn't seen at first and I think
I probably had like hundreds of them on the sheet
of paper so it took a lot to kind of get it down
I mean there's some obvious ones that you know
you're going to pick but I looked at like Dan
said some of those polls sight and sound AFI
to see which ones were on there that I was considering
maybe bump it up a little bit check out some
Rotten Tomatoes scores and stuff like that but
regardless of which way you do it I think it's
going to be interesting which ones we finalize
in on, and let's just get right into the list
then. Amanda, why don't you start? Ladies first.
What is your tenth film on your list of shame?
I thought that we didn't have these numbered.
I thought they were just supposed to be in any...
That's fine. You can just pick some random one.
This is not in order of, like, importance or
anything by any means. You know me. I'm gonna
rank and list everything, so... Ah, shush. Shush,
no. I'm gonna go with one that probably is the
biggest stab and that's The Godfather movies.
I have never seen there's At all, I mean I know
about it. I know the premise I know the theme
is quotes, but that's what I've never actually
sat down and watch those films Kevin Sorry, this
is gonna be interesting for me because apparently
there's some stuff on here that I don't know
that she hasn't seen yet, so I Blame myself.
I guess for that one I think for a lot of people
the the brain time to scare people off for the
godfather because it is it is quite long so I
just actually I don't know what cable channel
is doing it but there's Like the godfather like
the epic Series or epic don't hate HBO was doing
that. They were like, yeah, they had like the
Extremely four -hour long version of the Godfather
something like that. I think it might be even
longer than that I don't know. I I recorded it
on our DVR and it's sitting there, but it's like
the chronological Version of all the Godfathers
put together at least the first two. Maybe oh
really? Yeah, so it's like if you were to watch
it in chronological order I guess it's like a
reedit of it. So I have it recorded. But like
you said, I don't know when I'm gonna have The
runtime is so ridiculous that I don't know. I'm
gonna have to watch it in like the purpose of
what they're trying to do probably so Maybe that's
how we'll expose them into the chronological
But yeah, I think Dan's got that one on the head
a little bit I think a lot of people are a little
bit afraid of the runtime and the investment,
you know, it's not just one film It's gonna be
a series of them. So if you're gonna start you're
gonna gotta be ready to go through the whole
thing at least So, all right Godfather. Any reactions
that I didn't let you get out? Dan? Matt? I'll
save my reaction. All right. Matt, why don't
you go next then? What is your first film on
your list of shame that you'd like to share with
us? All right. I had it lower, but I'm going
to jump it up just to be topical. And I'm cheating
just like Kevin taught me. But I had a category
of, like, ultra -famous gang mafia movies. Of
which includes Godfather 1 & 2, which I haven't
seen. I didn't write down Godfather 3 because
I've heard things. I wrote down Goodfellas, Casino,
The Departed. I have not seen any of these. Really?
I also have not seen Casino. What is going on?
Oh, no, dude. You're gonna be saying that almost
every other time I say something. Alright, so
a mob movie marathon is coming into the future.
Man, I... have ran into a lot more people that
have not seen Godfather than people that have
seen Goodfellas. Yeah, I enjoy Goodfellas more
than the Godfather. I mean, I think Godfather
is arguably one of the best movies of all time,
but Goodfellas isn't like one of my favorites.
So, yeah, I would say if you're going to watch
one, maybe start with that one because I think
it's a little bit more modern. So it might be
a little bit more enjoyable. Well, and if you,
yeah, Goodfellas is a good start. If you like
Goodfellas, there's more to watch. If you don't
like Goodfellas, then you're not going to probably
care too much about those other ones that you
mentioned, Casino or Godfather, at least I don't
think, guys. So for Matt, basically, it's all
of Martin Scorsese. I'm last seen a one. All
right, we're off to a good start some some definitely
big names there I'll go next I guess for my number
ten I was my number nine and ten were really
hard to come up with my first eight were obvious
my nine and ten I had like five or six films
that were kind of circulating back and forth
but For my number ten, I guess it could be somewhat
of a theme or at least represent a blind spot
for me. And that blind spot would be Stanley
Kubrick in general. And I have not seen A Clockwork
Orange or The Shining. So I guess that's just
a giant. I've only seen one Stanley Kubrick film.
And so I have a big blind spot for the rest of
his filmography. But I think the ones that kind
of get the most praise are The Shining and A
Clockwork Orange. So I haven't seen either one
of those. See, my favorite Kubrick film was actually
The Killing. So it's one of His earliest ones
I would say it's more of a crime movie But yeah,
that's I'm not too surprised because I know what
you would dislike 2001 I could see why that would
turn you away from from what from other films
from Cooper But I mean obviously they have a
lot of notoriety and I'm not I know he has a
interesting style. I don't necessarily know if
2001 is the reason I haven't watched any other
ones or it's just that I've just never had I've
never had somebody like trying to get me to watch
them either like nobody I've hung out with roommates
or Amanda, you know aren't trying to like Sit
me down and watch me here and show me a Coober
watch me show me a Coober film So it's just a
I don't know. It's just something that's never
come up to so it's kind of weird I've seen the
shining a ton and I was super disturbed by a
clock record. So I'm not like Trying to go back
there. Alright, so yeah, Stanley Cooper gets
a big blind spot list from me. Dan, what do you
got first up? So, my number 10 was hard to choose
from, too. I was gonna go through a bunch of
them. This one is more so a personal choice because
it's based upon a director that I really like
and Darren Aronofsky. Like, love the wrestler,
love what he has done in the past, but one of
his best films and notable films I have not seen,
and that's Requiem for a Dream. Movie here a
lot of people talk about especially when you're
not you came out with a lot of his last film
But I it's been on my blind spot forever Just
have not got around to watching it. I don't know
why, but one day. That's actually on my blind
spot, too. It's not on my list, but it was one
that I was considering. It's actually one that
I also just recorded on whatever HBO or started
or something so that I have it right there ready
to watch, but I have not pulled the trigger yet.
But that's been a film that has been on my radar
since like even almost before I was into movies.
I've heard about this film since it came out.
I've always wanted to like watch it. And for
some reason, yeah, it's just something I've never
actually got around to. So I'm full agreement
with you on that one being a blind spot. Amanda,
have you seen Requiem for a Dream? Yeah, it was
a struggle for me to get through. It's a lot
of like drug trips and crazy stuff that happens.
So the way it's filmed is it can be jarring and
hard to watch if... You know, you get motion
sick at all. It's kind of a very unique film,
I'll say that, and there's a lot of stuff going
on to think about and try to wrap your mind around.
Do you think we should watch it? Oh, man, it's
been a while since I've seen it, so I guess it
wouldn't be too much of a shot to me, but I think
you definitely need to watch it at some point.
All right. You too, Dan. I mean, it's a trip.
Definitely don't want the kid in the room for
that one. I always, for some reason, put this
and Magnolia together as another movie I've not
seen. So I don't know why I always put them,
because again, two notable directors are on at
the same time. So I hope to watch it. I think
I actually, it's at my local library, so I'm
going to buckle down and watch it. I do not have
it in my DVR. I think it's also one that you
have to be in the right mood to tackle. You're
not just going to be like, oh, just throw this
on. I think I actually got a headache from it.
Who's ready for a fun Friday night? Amanda, back
to you then. What's next on your unordered list
of shame? I feel like I might be the only one
that's never seen this. And a little film called
Rudy. Never. I've never seen it. Feel like everybody
else has seen it. I'm like, it's a guy from the
Lord of the Rings, right? That's like Samwise
game G. That's all I know What are you gonna
say little film? See if I would have seen that
that I would have known that I shouldn't have
seen that I Rudy gets a lot of love from a lot
of people I've only seen it once and I wasn't
overwhelmed by it. Like I guess it's a fun little
sports film But Dan, what do you think about
Rudy? Yeah, it's fine. It's you know, it's cheesy
and I get away and like to get this typical sports
movie way. You know, you have the classic scene
at the I don't want to ruin it, I guess, because
she's not seen it. But, you know, when he pushes
Frodo into the now, that's not right. But it's
fine. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't. It's more,
I guess, just notable because of its pop culture
impact than I think it is a great sports film.
Like I wouldn't put it in the top echelon of
sports movies. But for some reason, it's just
people know about it. So I don't feel too bad
about you not seeing that one. I mean, I understand
that it is definitely a popular title that a
lot of people have seen. So I can kind of see
that, but I'm not going to force you to watch
that one. I feel so much better because I was
sitting here going, man, everyone's going to
list these things. And they're not even going
to be things that I got near to because I just
haven't seen any movies, apparently. And this
is one that I've seen. And so I've got that going
for me. And one thing I would like to point out
that maybe makes this Makes that movie better
or look differently. I was talking to a guy who
plays for the NIU Huskies and He and I were talking
about I think it was Eddie the Eagle or something
that came out recently and he was like You might
not have noticed but there aren't sports films
starring white guys anymore He's like it's always
it's always either a lady or a person of color
And he's you know, and that's a great thing and
Hollywood needs to be more diverse But he's like
as a college level athlete It's kind of weird
to not be able to associate myself with any sports
movies And I thought that was an interesting
take and I know Rudy was towards the end of that
I can see that. You're saying there's no more
white people in sports movies? Well, there are
no more white people in sports, just in general.
It is becoming a dwindling subject to have a
white man be the lead in your sports movie. I
mean, if it's not Kevin Costner in a baseball
film, you're out of luck. What about white man
can't jump? Yeah, that's not 20 years old. Sports
movies, I'm a huge sports fan, but sports movies
to me are so bad usually. There's maybe three.
at the most that I, three or four that I like,
but the rest are just all cheese to me. Matt,
what do you got next on your list? I teased it,
I believe, in the last record, but what was originally
my number one is Fight Club. I've heard from
a million different sources that I need to see
it. I've had the ending spoiled for me, at least
in some part, because you can't avoid that in
this current day and age, but I'm sure it's still
interesting. But I just, it's one that I have
not watched that I've heard is great. I actually
couldn't have avoided this one even if I wanted
to because I actually had a college course that
this was part of the curriculum so we had to
watch it and write about it and talk about it,
etc. So there is definitely a lot there. It's
got more layers than most movies as far as being
able to dissect it and discuss it. So that's
a film that even people that have seen it once
probably don't fully understand or grasp all
the different stuff that's going on. as well
as people that have seen it like five or six
times. So I'd be interested to see what your
take is on that one, though, actually, Matt.
I'm not sure where you'd fall on the Fight Club
bandwagon. Me either. Amanda, you've seen Fight
Club and had also had to... Do you see it in
college as well? On my own. I never had to do
anything with it in class. Okay. I couldn't remember
if it was one of the ones that you had to or
not. But yeah, I think that's definitely a list
of shame type movie. There's especially for our...
More so, I think, for our generation. Yeah. I
get what you're saying. What's interesting about
that, too, is when it came out, it was not all
that well -received. It kind of gained notoriety
as it went on. Yeah. But people that were in
either high school or college in relatively the
same time as the four of us were, I know that
spans a little bit of time, but it just seemed
to be one of those films that everybody... It's
like most of the Tarantino films. It's like that's
what... people are watching that age in those
groups and stuff like that. Yeah, I have another
one of those on my list that I'll get to. All
right. So I think I'm up next then for my number
nine. I'm going to kind of use this film to also
highlight another gaping hole in my film viewing
experience. And I will put Psycho down there.
And honestly, I've only I just recently saw Vertigo
and I believe that's the only Alfred Hitchcock
film I've ever seen. I was looking through his
filmography and I don't know if I came up with
another film. I have not seen Rear Window, I
have not seen Birds, I have not seen Rope. I
mean, there's a billion more I could list, but
I'm going to list Psycho as the entrant here
to kind of represent that entire gaping hole
for me. So you mean, you know, his psycho not
the Gus Van Sant psycho with Vince Vaughn, right?
That's not the one that you're correct. You've
not seen. Correct. The black and white original
psycho that, yeah, I mean, I don't know if that's
the number one film I would list out of all those
other ones I listed that I have not seen from
his filmography. I don't know if. Psycho's the
best Probably wouldn't think it's up there when
it comes to popularity for sure I mean, I think
you said you saw vertigo that was probably his
most well -reviewed rear window is up there,
too North by the way, I'm going back and forth
on whether to list rear window or psycho and
just kind of went with psycho in the end It has
a 96 on Rotten Tomatoes. So I thought that was
pretty Pretty well pretty high score. So I should
probably see it at some point now, Dan. You've
seen most of Hitchcock's films, correct? I've
seen a good amount. There's still a lot I have
not seen. I've seen North by Northwest, I've
seen Vertigo, Psycho, Rope, but I have not seen
like An Enemy of a Murder, Rebecca, a few others
I still need to catch up. You've seen Dial M
for Murder? I've seen Dial M for Murder. That's
like early Hitchcock, that's when it was glorified
stage play, well it was actually. That one's
good, it's not... I wouldn't put it up there
with the best. It's kind of a little bit more
schlocky. I would say the acting is really big,
large acting. It's well -directed because it's
Alfred Hitchcock. Right. It's just interesting
to me, too, because growing up, my parents especially
watched a lot of Alfred Hitchcock on TV, like
the Alfred Hitchcock Presents and stuff like
that. I'm interested in all these and I want
to see them but I just for some reason have never
sat down to kind of go through maybe I just didn't
know where to start so I'm gonna have to start
knocking a few more of those off of my list because
Amanda's seen a few of them too but I know there's
some that she hasn't seen that we could see for
the first time. Alfred Hitchcock as well as Stanley
Kubrick, blind spots for me. Dan, what do you
have next? So I guess we're in horror, so I'll
stay with that with my next one. And I'm going
to cheat because that's what this is all about,
is cheating. You're going to be shameful, go
all the way with it. And I'm cheating because
I'm lumping in the Halloween franchise and the
Friday the 13th franchise. This is extra shameful
because of the ones I have seen. I seen the Halloween
remake by Rob Zombie in the theater. I have yet
to see the first Halloween or any one other than
that. I have not seen like the first Friday the
13th, the second one, but I did see Jason Gillis
of space. In the theater. Again. Oh my god. The
choice I made. Dan wins. That that happened and
I would say it's almost worth it for Jason goes
to space for one specific scene involving a sleeping
bag Which was alterly alterly here at the hilarious?
Yes, that went on for a long time. I think there's
some kind of joke about that. I liked Jason goes
to space? I think it's Jason 10. I don't know
the actual but Jason goes to space with the shoes.
Dan was it your idea to go to the theater for
that or were you going with a group or a friend?
I was going with a group of people and I was
like alright I'll go. The Halloween was because
my wife likes horror and films like she likes
like scary films so we went to see that. She
didn't like it because she actually doesn't like...
Slasher films and it was also a really bad movie.
But yeah, you have to see the original Halloween
So I've been waiting for it. So I wanted to do
like John John Carpenter marathon where I start
with all of his movies But I just haven't I started
I read watch dark star, but then I just and a
few others, but I haven't got to that yet I don't
know if I've seen the original Halloween or not.
I honestly couldn't tell you unless I sat down
and watched it and something rang a bell. I'm
pretty sure though I have seen the original Friday
the 13th which is weird that I would have seen
that and you haven't. I had a lot of friends
growing up that liked horror films so I got exposed
to a few of them early on and I think that's
why I haven't watched any since. That is crazy
that you've seen the ones that you have and not
the original. Yeah, and I have seen the remake
of Friday the 13th Platinum Dudes one and that
was awful. Maybe it's because you've seen these
other films that were so bad. Exactly. I feel
like most of the Friday 13th are not viewed as
great movies. I'm not sure, but I know Halloween
the first one is he has a classic. I just have
not seen it. Alright, Amanda, we're talking a
bunch of horror films. Is that where you want
to go next or you got something else up your
sleeve for your eighth pick? I don't have a single
horror film on here. You've seen them all. The
closest thing I have to that is the Rocky Horror
Picture Show. I have never seen that ever and
I know that's probably some big huge pop culture
thing. I think people are still obsessed with
this movie today, but I've never seen a piece
of this. I don't think you're alone, though,
on that. I am not either. I haven't seen it in
its entirety. I've seen big chunks of it, but
I have not seen it from beginning to end. I think
it's something that, yeah, a lot of people have
seen, and a lot of people reference it and talk
about it, et cetera, but I think there's a great
deal of people that have no idea what it's about
or have never seen it. So I think you'd have
some company there. Matt, have you seen it? I
have, and I'm surprised at all of you. This is
the second time that you've seen something that
somebody else has listed. Well, second time,
Amanda. Well, if you want to go there. I want
to make it very specific, who? But are you a
fan of Rocky Horror Picture Show? It's good.
It's fun. It's not what I would go for, but I
wouldn't be opposed to watching it if everyone
was like, hey, let's watch Rocky Horror. But
if I remember correctly, aren't they remaking
it in the next year? There you go, I mean your
chance to catch up on Oh, it's not it's not anything
It's a dude in some fishnets like that scares
you oh I didn't I didn't know that was a thing
Don't worry, there's a moment where Meat Loaf
comes in on like a motorcycle and drives inside
of a mansion in circles singing. It's pretty
great. That makes it worth it just for that.
I'm gonna have to watch it now. Oh man. Alright,
so Rocky Horror Picture Show for Amanda, Matt,
what do you have next? Um, so I feel like I'm
not cheating enough listening to everyone. but
I can't remake this entire list on the fly. My
number two is one that we have, like I literally,
I can almost reach out and touch it, because
my shelves are just right there, that I'm pretty
sure most people think I should have seen. I'm
a nerd who loved 80s sci -fi, but I have not
seen Tron. I have not seen Tron either. The original
Tron? The original Tron, or the sequel. We have...
We have both of them, because I think you can
get them both for under 10 bucks at the disc
replay. I have not seen anything in relation
to Tron, whether it be movies, cartoons, or anything.
I have no idea what Tron even is outside. It's
a science fiction thing. I actually had fun with
the new one. I've never seen the original, but
what I've seen clips of, I don't think I could
sit through the entire thing. I have seen the
original one. It does not hold up very well at
all. It's interesting for what they were able
to do, like in the sense of it was the first
movie to use like computer graphics in the way
they did, but I don't think it's a very good
movie and I wasn't the biggest fan of the sequel.
And I know they were going to make a third one
with They Aren't Now, and I think that's a good
choice because we don't need three bad Tron movies,
you know. So I think it's notable because of
its impact on, within good key culture and you
have... A lot of people that are huge Tron fans,
I personally just never thought it was a great
show. Yeah, there's a lot of rabid Tron fans.
And there was even, I think there was a cartoon
that came out like only less than two or three
years ago too on Tron that is no longer airing
either. So it seems like there is a lot of push
from the fandom for Tron stuff, but as soon as
something comes out, it gets shut down or doesn't
come to fruition. So I don't know. Yeah, I just
can't get interested enough to even want to watch
it. So it's probably going to remain a blind
spot for me. It's like watching an old person's
personal home movie if you watch it today. So
it should be on crappy movie night or something.
Yeah, I wouldn't say it's crappy. It might be
too far, but it does kind of look like a classic
Doctor Who episode or something like that. I
love classic Doctor Who. So you'll love it. There
you go. I have almost every DVD from the classics.
Just in the sense that the special effects too
look like TV quality level. Cool. Alright, for
my next pick, I'm going to go to kind of a classic
comedy that everybody always raves about, but
I think this is a product of maybe I was too
young. that I missed the boat on this one and
I just haven't gone back to see what the fuss
was all about even though anybody that has seen
this in recent times that was kind of listing
it on their list of shame and then they watched
it and reported back usually doesn't report back
to positively but maybe they're jaded I don't
know but my next pick would be Caddyshack I have
not seen Caddyshack a lot of my older relatives
have seen it and they talk about it and reference
it all the time and I have no idea what they're
talking about other than I know they're talking
about Caddyshack but it's just one that there's
a couple like this I haven't seen you know Blazing
Saddles and a couple of Animal House but I think
Caddyshack is probably the biggest one that I
just I guess I'm too young for I've seen Caddyshack
okay that excuse is no longer valid that I just
try to use so I don't know what my excuse is
I just haven't seen Caddyshack I'm sorry so Should
I see it? I like Caddyshack. Again, it's been
probably a decade since I've seen it last, but
I don't put it in the top echelon. I don't put
it in the level of an airplane or a naked gun,
but I do think there's some good things about
it. But don't ever watch Caddyshack, too, because
that is one of the worst movies ever. All right,
same people except for Dan Ackroyd playing the
part of Bill Murray and then... Chevy Chase because
he does not know how to say no to a role. Alright,
so I will check out Caddyshack eventually, but
I will avoid the sequel. Dan, what do you got
next? I also have a comedy a little bit... In
a little little little more recent than that
of Caddyshack And it's SNL comedy and so much
of that of Friday the 13th and Halloween It's
partially shameful because the movies I have
not seen so I've seen the ladies man night to
the Roxbury Some other of the worst SNL films,
but I have not seen in Wayne's world That is
on my list of shame. I've seen like all the famous
scenes I feel like I have seen it but not sat
down and watched a movie from beginning to end
That hurts me a little bit because at one point
I did look like Garth from Wayne's World. And
I love to play hockey, especially in the street.
I wear the glasses that Garth wears. Any time
that I can say party on, I'm going to. So you
should really see this. It's definitely a pop
culture go -to. I can't remember. Do you like
this better or worse than Bill and Ted's? That's
one of the hardest questions I will ever answer
in my entire life. And I've never been able to
answer that, I don't think. You've seen Bill
and Ted's, right, Dan? Yeah, I've seen both Bill
and Ted's. I love them. There are some great
things about those movies, especially Bogus Journey
with them playing death. Some amazing sequences
in that, but yeah, I've not seen Wayne's World.
I've seen a lot of the scenes. I've seen bits
and pieces on TV, but not enough to feel like
I've seen it from beginning to end. I've seen
it but I almost feel exactly like you do because
I think I've seen it once when it came out and
I remember hardly anything about it so I need
to probably revisit it because I could honestly
not tell you outside of what Amanda just said
and some of the quotes and some of the scenes
that have been played on ad nauseam I couldn't
tell you anything about Wayne's world. You mean
I do look like Garth? I did not agree to that.
You kind of do. Alright, so that brings it back
to you, Amanda. For your next pick, what do you
have at number seven? Oh man, I uh... Wow. I
think that I'm going to go with one that I have
let slip before, but I think it was on In Session
Confessions. I've never seen the Passion of the
Christ. Have I talked about that on the podcast
yet? I don't remember. Yeah, that's one that
I feel like everybody saw and it was kind of
a staple, but I avoided it. I still have not
seen it. I mean, you almost have to get a pass
for that because it's like what we were talking
about before. You have to be in the exact right
mindset and mood to just be like, let's throw
Passion of the Christ in there. When would you
ever feel that way? Like, when is it ever a good
time to be like... Now's the time. I don't know,
that's what I'm saying. I don't know when that
time would or how you, like, get to that point.
Is it, like, fucking Passover? And you're like,
all right, I just gotta push. I mean, it's like
a certain time around Easter when you have to
watch The Ten Commandments. Does anybody really
like watching that fucking movie? But we still
watch it. I don't, but... I think you're okay
not watching The Passion of the Christ. Just
watch the South Park episode on it and you'll
enjoy it a lot more. If you're a fan of seeing
just, like, brutality... to a point where it's
almost unbearable to watch, then go for it. I'm
good. Alright, so Passion of the Christ for Amanda.
Matt, what do you have next? Alright, so I don't
know directors like you guys do, so I've got
two Stanley Kubrick films on here without knowing,
and one you already touched on negatively, I
believe, which is 2001 A Space Odyssey. You haven't
seen that man. No Please and I can't believe
I'm recommending you to watch this But please
watch it because I would love to hear your take
on it I and I would love you will like it more
than I do I would love to not shut up about it
because that's how I am with things. Um Yeah,
I mean I I'm interested in seeing it I you know
again like most of these I know enough to quote
it even if I haven't seen it and reference it
but It's a classic science fiction movie that
I have not even touched. And I feel shameful
for it. I mean, it does have a lot of praise.
It's, you know, a lot of times looked at as the
best science fiction film of all time or things
of that nature. So I think it definitely qualifies
for a list of shame film. Matt, the way you said
that, you're like, I'm shameful for it. It made
me sound like I was in like an AA meeting or
something. Let's see what this is, right? Yes.
But yeah, I would be very intrigued for you to
watch this, Matt, so I could listen to your take
on it. Maybe you can convince me why I should
like it. Probably not, but I mean, I'm definitely
going to give it a try. For my next one, it's
maybe not as well -known, I guess, to just the
general public, maybe. But I think as far as
especially all the other film podcasts or bloggers
or reviewers or et cetera. would get this one
and probably say it should be on my list of shame
and I definitely look forward to not Checking
it off and seeing it but for my next one I'm
gonna go for the whole trilogy the whole before
trilogy day because I have not seen before sunrise
sunset midnight I think those are the three titles
I have not seen any of them and I've never heard
a single bad word about any of these films I've
also heard two or three different people Claim
that it is the best trilogy of all time So I
should probably see it, but I don't know I didn't
even really know that these films existed before
like maybe two or years ago or so so Just missed
it. I will say like for the before films are
certainly not for everyone because it's legitimately
The two especially the first two movies are you
know two guys walk two people walking and talking
and that's the extent of it in a lot of ways
so for a lot of people i think would be bored
and hate it um but if you like i love richard
like later in like what he's i think there's
more there than just that but uh so i think there's
there are people who love them but then you i
think you'd have some people who would like get
within the first 15 minutes of the first one
and be done with it. And so if you don't like
the first 20 minutes, I would say you're probably
not going to like the whole trilogy. Though I
think it gets better. The first one is super
90s. It's like oozing in 90s -ness because it's
just of that time so much. I think the most recent
one before Midnight is the best of all of them.
But they do think they get better with each installment.
Do you think ultimately I would like the trilogy?
I don't know, because I know you liked Bowhead,
but you didn't love it, so it's hard to say.
I don't think you would like it as much as most
people. I don't think I would see you putting
it up there as one of the best trilogies of all
time. Could be wrong. I think you would enjoy
it, but I don't think you would love it. I look
forward to seeing it, so I can report back and
let you know. But yeah, before Trilogy is my
number seven, Dan, what do you have next? You,
I think we talked about, I forget what it was,
but Fight Club was being one of those movies
that... that everyone in college loved and was
one of their favorite films. This was another
one of those that I felt like everyone's favorite
film was Darnie Darko, and it's one that I have
not seen. I just remember so many people talking
about how much they loved it, and I guess, I
don't know, for whatever reason, I just never
got around to it. I just never... interest me
all that much, but considering how much it's
talked about, how many people just adore it,
I know a lot of people hate it too. Kind of like
2001, there's people who like think it's the
best thing ever and some people who can't stand
it. I just would like, I'm just shameful in the
fact that I've not watched it so I can't say
anything about it. I mean, have you seen Donnie
Darko? I have, yes, a couple times. Super freaking
disturbing and it took me a couple watches to
try to figure out what's going on and I don't
know if I really still understand what's going
on or if I know yet. I think I'm gonna have to
watch it another time. It's confusing to me.
I don't know, has anybody else seen this? I have
seen it, but I cannot remember anything about
it. You don't even remember how creepy it was?
No. What? There's like four or five films that
came out kind of in that same time period that
I seemed to not be able to distinguish between
and I need to watch them all so I can like keep
them straight in my head. I don't understand
that because this movie is so unique and like
so identifiable that I can't see how I would
blend into things. Maybe I haven't seen it. Maybe
I just think I've seen it. No. I'm gonna back
Kevin up on that. because I saw it and I saw
it in the last six or seven years and I can't
even remember most of it because it's so confusing
it's hard to wrap your mind around it but I can
like visualize things and then things that happened
yeah like I remember there's like a dude in a
bunny suit and then like a jet it wasn't just
a bunny suit like this fucking thing was disturbing
beyond any words it's so creepy Yeah, I mean,
like I said, maybe I haven't seen it, but I swear
I haven't. It's just one of those, like, there
was a bunch of films that kind of came out within
the same three years that I just... If I were
to pin it to any movie, it would be Requiem of
a Dream. Okay. So I have a theme going and I
didn't even realize it. Yeah, you do. Alright,
so we're gonna have to have a whole little spotlight
on those films and see how you feel on those,
Dan. Amanda, back to you now for your number
six unordered pick. All right, so I love me some
Gary Oldman. Love the motherfucker to death.
And I wish we were best friends, but we're not.
So I'm just gonna keep watching his movies. And
it turns out there's a bunch of his movies I
haven't seen. And one being Sid and Nancy, one
of his older films. I have never seen that. They
mention it in a little song called Butterfly.
Anybody? Anybody remember that song? Nobody?
Anyways. Thanks, Matt. I got it. Yeah, I wasn't
gonna go there. Matt did better. He did. I think
that it's one that definitely flew under my radar
for a long time, and even hearing the title,
I didn't know that Gary Oldman was in it until
I looked it up recently and found out that it
was him, and now I'm like, now I'm gonna watch
this. Who knew we'd get a Butterfly reference
as we list our top 10 films? Crazy Town. I had
the whole C .E. bag in the music. Dan, have you
seen Cinder Nancy? Do you think she should be
shameful of this? If she should be so, should
I? Because I've not seen it either. I've not
seen it either. Just due to your love for Gary
Oldman, though, I can see your justification
for... having this on there yes that was a purely
personal choice but i think that it's also um
some kind of piece of pop culture too not just
because it was in a crazy town um song i think
that people will recognize it all right matt
does your next pick have any song references
that you can throw out there uh i'm sure it does
In fact, my next one is a whole franchise where
I have not seen any one of them, and it's known
almost as much for its music as anything else,
and that's Rocky. The whole franchise? I've seen
about half of the first one, and it was on in
a room, and I was not paying attention to it.
And then I think the second or third one... was
playing in a pizza joint when I was waiting for
a pizza for about a half an hour. Like, that's
my Rocky experience. I'm gonna go ahead and shift
my list around because it was my number one.
I've not seen any Rocky movie ever except for...
except for Creed, if that counts last year. But
I've not seen any of the Rocky films, so I'm
right there with you, Matt. Profession time.
I don't know how, I just have never, I was not
a Sylvester Stallone fan at all growing up. I
did not seek out his films at all. So I generally
avoided it, because I just thought he was a terrible
actor and I couldn't stand much about him. as
a younger self that didn't know anything. I grew
up on Arnold Schwarzenegger and Stallone. I watched
all of Schwarzenegger's films almost but for
some reason I avoided Stallone and I don't know
if it was him or if it was I didn't like boxing
when I grew up or what. When you grew up or now
and when you're an adult because you've grown
up now you don't like boxing? Both. But yeah
I've never seen a Rocky movie either Matt so
do not feel that you're alone in this shameful
act I guess. Oh man if that's your one you need
to get on my level bro well no it's not anymore
and now it's my number six so I got a bunch more
to follow so but yeah the only reason I put it
on there because it's like it'd be different
if we were just saying we haven't seen like rocky
4 or we haven't seen the first rocky But the
fact that I hadn't seen any of them, I thought
elevated it up a few spots. So, Dan, are you
shocked that we have two people on here that
have not seen a single Rocky film? A little bit,
because I feel like those are the type of movies
you trip over and you watch them by accident.
Like you mentioned in the background or something
like that. What's interesting is like going back
and watching the first one when you do. It's
the first Rocky's very... It's not even really
a sports movie. Really, there's no boxing till
the end of it. It's more of a bromance and...
Than anything but Then they get ridiculous as
more as they go on, you know four gets kind of
crazy five It's probably best enjoyed if it's
in the background. You're not paying attention
to it. It's awful Rocky Balboa, I think is pretty
better and then Creed is an improvement, but
the first one I think is legitimately a good
movie. You know, it's was one best picture Wrongfully,
so it was not the best movie that year but Now
we're gonna get people It does show that Stallone
is more talented than his movies sometimes will
let you know, like Over the Top or Stop What
My Mom Would Shoot. The Rocky fans are going
to be enraged at us. Amanda, are we going to
be watching Rocky soon? I can get down some Rocky.
Definitely. It makes me want to go to the gym
and run in a gray sweatsuit in Philadelphia or
wherever they're at. Yeah, Philadelphia. All
right, so since I skipped ahead there and went
right after Matt Dan you would be up next for
your whatever we're on number six six six my
number six is almost a stand -in because they're
I like Western just a lot of favorites like once
upon a time in the West which is Cassidy the
Sundance kid, but there are a lot of Great westerns.
I've not seen and probably the most notable Uh
is john waynes the search well not john waynes,
but john ford's the searchers starring john wayne
The searchers is probably noted as one of the
best westerns ever created. I've just never seen
it I've had desire to there's a lot of other
westerns. I haven't seen like we have bravo the
wild bunch Uh, you know josey or the outlet the
outlaw josey wales or whatever So there's a bunch
of Westerns I've yet to see, but probably the
most notable is The Searcher, so I have it next
on my list. Yeah, I think I've seen that once
with my mom, but it was so long ago that I can't
remember. But Westerns, for me too, are a weird
blind spot for me because I love Westerns. Like,
nine times out of ten I will love a Western film,
even if it's bad. There's so many of them though
that it's just like I didn't know where to go
as far as which one to list on my list so I don't
have any but there is a ton that I would like
to catch up on from from those uh I guess the
days when westerns were at the forefront and
kind of in their heyday when it seemed like I
mean John Wayne's in what like 175 movies or
something like that per year like he was in like
an eight thousand movie the guy just like was
legitimately just walked from one set to the
next like what character am I John Wayne That's
what I'm doing. I'm just gonna go with that.
I got it. I don't need to rehearse for this.
So yeah, I'm with you. I could probably list
a bunch of Westerns that I haven't seen, so...
Amanda. You're up. Confess. Well, you learned
this about me pretty recently, and that's the
fact that I have never seen the Goonies. Which
is just mind -boggling. For me. I didn't grow
up in the 80s. Yeah, I guess that could be it
But like Dan said with the other one that we
were talking about with the Rocky films like
it's hard to not just like accidentally Watch
the good you can sneeze turn on TNT and Rocky's
gonna be on not so much the Goonies Maybe not
on TNT, but well TNT is drama not I don't know
the Disney channel or something or Nickelodeon.
I don't know what channel Goonies would play
on, but we own this so we can fix this very quickly.
Goonies is just a fun film, but I understand
your thought process. It's a generational thing.
I'm sure a lot of people that were not born in
or around the 80s maybe have also not seen the
Goonies, but my niece and nephew have seen the
Goonies. Probably because of you. Yeah, that's
true. I want to come to your defense. I've also
not seen The Goonies. Thank you. And it slipped
my mind so much I was going to include it on
my list and forgot to. I'm going to create a
new list and this is lists of movies that Amanda
and Matt are going to watch together at my house.
That sounds oddly like a threat. I'm okay with
it. All right, so no Goonie love for the panel
here Dan is that list of shame worthy the Goonies
I think there's a generational things like I
see that people were wearing shirts of the Goonies
still and see people quote it I have two of them.
There you go. Hey you guys and you know, you
know, it's so it's I think at one point reading
a story last year that The Goonies had one of
the Goonies house in Seattle in Washington. They
had a like closed because so many people would
come to it trying to do the truffle shuffle.
So yeah, it's notable on that end, so I think
it's certainly shame -worthy. Like I've heard
that, but I have no fucking clue what that means.
You will. Oh, it's a fat person thing, because
everyone told me to do it growing up, so it's
got to be a fat person thing. Oh, wow. All right.
So we will experience that together. Where am
I at? Matt? What's up on your list next? Um this
is uh number two Stanley Kubrick if I if I did
IMDB right which is A Clockwork Orange is another
movie I have not seen. Yeah I'm with you there
I haven't seen it either. Um I've heard a lot
of things I've been told I need to watch it um
much in the same way that I need to watch Fight
Club and then the same guy told me when I asked
him like hey what do I need to see he was like
uh have you seen Clockwork Orange because that's
definitely on the list. Is this the work buddy
that yells at you? Yeah. Okay, he's a he's a
marine if that makes anything more obvious So
he's he's all kinds of okay with head trip and
messed up life and also yelling Does he tell
you about this in like a drill sergeant voice
sometimes Does he flip over a mattress and run
around in his tighty -whities freaking out because
he can't adjust like What is the apocalypse now?
I was like, where are we going with this? The
apocalypse now. Staring at the ceiling thing.
That'd be weird if you did that at work and had
access to a mattress. Well, actually, that's
not that crazy because I see probably four or
five mattresses come through a day. Oh, okay.
We'll recreate that scene, would you? Yeah. Next
time a Lisa or a Casper comes through, I'll be
able to open that up and go for it. All right.
For my next... list of shame entry, now that
I'm flipping my order all around. I will go with
a group of films as well. I will continue the
cheating trend. And I will admit that I have
not seen a single James Bond film prior to Pierce
Brosnan. Wow. So I've seen all the Pierce Brosnan
and Daniel Craig films, but I have not seen a
single James Bond film with Sean Connery, Roger
Moore, or the rest of them. I've only seen Pierce
Brosnan forward. Now, Dan, you recently, well,
maybe not so recently, but within the last couple
years, you did a Bond spotlight for the Geekcast
Radio Network, where you did most of, if not
all, of the Bond films. Is this something that's
worth the investment to go back and watch all
of those other films? There's a lot of hit and
misses to be honest with you. There's some good
ones, some bad ones. Like, I don't think Doctor,
like, Doctor Now, the first one is, does not
hold up all that well. I think... There are like
from russia with love you only live twice. I
think i'm on your majesty secret service is quite
good um back to pussy Yeah, I enjoy that there's
there's some really bad ones though like diamonds
are forever is god -awful um, I don't like uh
Some of the like some of the later roger more
like they get a view to a kill um, so I think
You know, I think it's interesting I thought
I enjoyed just going through it because I actually
before that there was a lot of them I didn't
see either but I bought the Blueberry set and
walk watch them in order and I think that is
the best way to enjoy them because you kind of
see the evolution of this character and yeah,
there are some bad ones there, but sometimes
some bad Bad James Bond movies are really or
can be enjoyable in the wrong reasons like moonraker
like that is like arguably like one of the worst
ones and it's just crazy leave bad so, you know,
I think you will you it's it's Worth the investment
but realize you're gonna see a lot of bad movies
while you do it. So Yeah, and you answer my other
question I was gonna ask you I was gonna ask
you if there was a need to watch them in a specific
order or not So you think chronological is the
best way to go? I think so. I think it's the
best way to enjoy them because there's some linking
between them not much like there's a little bit
of between Under Magic's eSecret Service and
the Spy Who Loved No, what's the one? Deliver
Let Die, not very much, so they don't tie together
a great, no. Sorry, I'm mixing up the order,
but yeah. There's so many of them, they all kind
of tie together. That's the only bad thing is
you watch a lot of them in like short spans and
they kind of all bleed into one another. All
right. Well, that means you're up next for your
next confession Dan my next confession So my
next one would be if I guess if you adjusted
for inflation the most popular movie ever created
and it's gone with the wind I Have never seen
it. I just I don't know. I just never had the
desire but I feel it's like One of the most notable
movies ever created. It just never really appealed
to me I never like wanted to sit down and watch
it, but I do feel like one day I'm gonna have
to you know, give it in That's another one that
the timestamp can turn some people off. It's
number six, I believe, the last time AFI did
their top 100 films of all time. And I'll just
go ahead, Dan, that's my next one. So that was
next on my list as well. So I'll go out of turn
because I am with you. I've never seen Gone with
the Wind and I've never been able to convince
myself to invest that much time on it because
I just can't see myself liking it. but maybe
I'm wrong. I think you would. There's a lot of
drama and it's very classic, the look, the acting.
I think that... There's some really awesome quotes
and scenes and this romance and then the development
and the deterioration and everything between
these two super iconic and well -known characters.
I saw this movie pretty young and so there's
quite a bit of it that I probably don't remember
and I would definitely be willing to go along
the four hour journey with you to watch it again
just to see it with an adult brain. Is that what
we have? Shut the fuck up. I've got a friend,
a couple actually that lives out in Seattle and
they come to town because you know they grew
up here and their parents are here and every
year they watch Gone with the Wind for Christmas
and I've been a part of that for maybe three
or four of the last five times. And I can I can
echo everything Amanda said it's a pretty great
movie and then you know the great thing is is
that they Like they've watched documentaries
and stuff like document more time spending watching
documentaries in the movie is long and so they
could just keep throwing in like pop -up video
facts and it's like for how old it is it's Incredibly
impressive the things they did and think they
had to do to get that movie and it's it's good
I mean, there's like a war, there's romance,
there's drama, there's so many epic shots that,
I don't know, I love it. And all the costuming
and the looks that are shared, the embraces,
I love it. It's well done. Dan, did you think
that we would have a movie that would show up
sometime during the record that you and I have
not seen that Amanda and Matt are schooling us
on? No, I'm, I'm, I feel, I don't, I don't know
how to respond and not, like, uh, yeah, I'm surprised.
I don't want to say I feel actually painful because
I feel that's insulting, but I definitely feel
like I need to step up my game major time. Yeah,
but positive marks from both of you guys, so
maybe I should get off my little... Maybe you
should shut your mouth. Yeah, maybe I should
shut my mouth and wash gone with the wind. If
I ever, like, injure myself and I'm... have to
be somewhere for four and a half hours. Oh, if
you're in the cast, it's on. All right, so we'll
just have to wait for that to happen. Amanda,
back to you, and I will just stop listing numbers
because my list is so out of order. You're up
next. Okay, so Another one that I think might
just hurt you Kevin that you're already aware
of and that's Casablanca. I've never We actually
were playing a movie trivia game like last week
and this came up and then Everybody that was
playing had no clue what it was and I like needed
no time at all to answer this one We need to
watch this because I think you would like it
more than you think you will I hope so But it's
also very classic, a lot of lines, a lot of quotable
things, a lot of great... Don't try to just take
the words out of my mouth. I'm trying to school
you like you just schooled me. No, it's not gonna
work now. I think Casablanca definitely is qualified
as a list of shame film, though. I think that
fits perfectly with what we're doing. Matt, have
you seen Casablanca? I have not seen Casablanca,
and I have not seen Stallog 17, which I've always
heard those two lump together. So neither of
you have seen Casablanca, huh? I'm just kidding.
Putting this on the list, are we? I'm just trying
to feel better about myself. Matt, what else
have you not seen that you'd like to confess
to the world? I believe, I believe in 2001 this
was voted or listed by a number of places as
the greatest movie of the 20th century. I don't
know, I can't speak to it because I haven't seen
it and that is Citizen Kane? Yeah. We're getting
some classics now here Gone with the Wind, Casablanca,
and Citizen Kane. I saw that for the first time
like four or five years ago. I think it's important
too with that because when you get a movie that's
notable for the greatest of all time that like
reading up and Seeing like what exactly why that
was I think it's important because I think I
hear a lot of people say it's overrated But I
think when you go back and see what like how
it changed the game for that of movies It makes
a lot more sense But I think it's obviously quite
good and I ended up enjoying it much more than
I kind of thought I would going in I think I
probably saw it around the same time you did
Dan because it was been a probably about Four
or five years since I saw for the first time
man. I actually think you would like this And
I don't know what I'm basing that off of, but
I think especially like what Dan was saying,
if you kind of research the history a little
bit and kind of the impact that it had before
going into it and then watched it, I think you
would find it somewhat fascinating. Yeah, I'd
love to see it along with most of these. This
is one of my honorable mentions I thought about
bringing it up to you, but I just didn't... I've
heard it mentioned so many times, but I just
don't know a damn thing about it. Well, Citizen
Kane, another classic. Let's see how many more
of those we have as we go through here. I already
did my picks, so Dan, I think you're up next.
So next on my list, so considering we're a geek
website, I've seen a lot of superhero films,
comic book films. There are a couple I have not
seen, though this is not necessarily based upon
a comic. I just hear how it really represents
comics in a great way, but I've never sat down
and watched it, and that's unbreakable. the M9
Shyamalan film with Yes with Shawn, not Sean
Connery, Samuel L. Jackson and Bruce Willis.
I've started it a few times. I own it I've just
never finished it, but uh I just heard a lot
of great things about it And I just never sat
down and finished it so I gotta do that one day
and also Ghost World I've heard that's actually
currently in my queue right now on Amazon I've
not seen that either and I've heard great things
about that as well with C .C. Bushemi and a few
other people so those are both listed shames
for me I remember when unbreakable came out in
2001 I think it was our it was early 2000s I
thought I remembered when it come in when it
came out that like immediately like the immediate
praise wasn't there but maybe I'm this remembering
thing because I I thought I heard a lot of like
people ripping on that originally and then it
seemed like That all went away and since then
a lot of people have heaped praises on that film.
I need to rewatch it. I've seen it once and I
remember thinking it was alright but not thinking
it was great but I definitely need to rewatch
it because it's been probably at least 10 years
or more since I saw it. I'm pretty sure it's
on Netflix because I think you were working late
one night and I decided to rewatch this because
it's just a commitment though too. I think it's
kind of long and I fell asleep. And I'm a little
sad about that because I wanted to revisit Sam
Jackson actually doing a villain... right? So
it'll be interesting to go back and watch this
and connect it after we've seen all these other
comic book movies, too. Matt, have you... Sorry.
It came out in 2000, yeah. It only has like a
68 % on Rotten Tomatoes, but I know it also came
after Sixth Sense, so I think a lot of people
got kind of got buried and it wasn't as... well
respected as that, so I don't know if that's
part of it, but it has gained notoriety since
then, for sure. Matt, have you seen Unbreakable?
I have seen it, and I would say that it's probably
my top three favorite films of all time. That
said, I haven't seen it since, like, 2005. But,
yeah, it's one of the ones that, like, it really,
like, did it for me. It hit me at the right age,
and I loved it. Nice. So we'll have to re -watch
that sometime soon. All right, that means it's
back to Amanda, and I believe we're on number
three. Number three. I like a lot of action.
I like some kung fu. I like some butt kickery.
Little blind spot, though, is the man himself,
Bruce Lee. I have not seen The Way of the Dragon.
All right. That surprises me for your... taste
that you have not seen. That's like the godfather
of martial arts films. Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know why. Has anybody on the panel seen
that? Yeah, I have. So have you seen Enter the
Dragon? No. Maybe I just have it down wrong.
Enter the Dragon? Yeah, Enter the Dragon was
his first really big American hit. I have seen
it. It's good. It's probably, I would say, his
best film, probably most suitable for it's like...
the ending with all the mirrors and what not.
If you're Bruce Lee fan and you like his other
films, I think you would enjoy it for sure. Definitely
something iconic that I missed out on for no
good reason. Yeah. You love martial arts films.
Some of the dubbing is really bad, but if you
can get over that, you know. It's kung fu movies
in general. All right, Matt. What is your number
three? This might have belonged with the Godfather
movies. I don't know, but I think it's... Different
because it's from the opposite point of view
I think but I have not seen Taxi driver, I wouldn't
necessarily lump that in with with those other.
It's why it's Pacino, right? And that's yeah,
that's I guess where I it's the Danero or Danero
what because there's that much difference between
the two If you haven't seen any Scorsese films
are the same guy. Yeah Go ahead. I don't know.
I've heard a lot of good things, especially recently.
Some other podcasts I listen to have been talking
this one up a lot lately, so it was in the forefront
of my mind and maybe doesn't belong on my list
as much as some other things. I think it's a
good one to have on the list. I think a lot of
people talk very positive. I mean, that's one
of those ones where I don't necessarily hear
a ton of people talking about it all the time,
but when I do hear people talk about it, it's
almost universally positive. So I think it belongs
there. Dan, what do you think about Taxi Driver?
Yeah, it's certainly, I love Taxi Driver. It's
in some place within my top favorite films. I
don't know where, 25 or 30ish, but it's great.
It came out the same year as Rocky, so you can
kind of like have a 1976 marathon if you would
like. It was, like, notable because it's, I think,
the movie that really set Scorsese on to, like,
another Paso Sola as a respected director. But,
yeah, I think it's phenomenal. Probably De Niro's
best performance overall. Quite good. And it
holds up really well, I think. I would say if
you have the opportunity to watch it on Blu -ray
because it looks gorgeous. So, it's gorgeous
in, like, the most rundown way possible because
it's, like, you know, where New York City was,
like, falling, decaying from the inside, but
still, it looks gorgeous. For my next pick, like
Dan, like you were saying with your unbreakable
pick, you know we are a geek. podcast on GeekCast
Radio Network, so I feel like this one fits even
better when we're talking about that audience.
And also it was highlighted for me when we went
through and did another list for the whole network,
one of our top 100s for animated films. So I'm
gonna throw an animated film in there that I
have not seen that always gets rave reviews and
it ranked very highly amongst our top 100. And
I have never seen in its entirety, I've never
seen The Iron Giant. So... I will go ahead and
admit that. Missed it when it came out and just
haven't had the push to go see it yet but I know
it's universally praised so I need to knock this
one. I finally knocked WALL -E and UP off my
list this last year so I need to add Iron Giant
to the list. It's Vin Diesel's best performance.
I think I circled that in our little pamphlet
out there for our Disney Club so we can just
buy it. So yeah, I will hopefully, hopefully
2016 will be the year that I finally catch up
with the Iron Giant. Dan, what is your number
three? My number, I feel like this is the one
I'm probably gonna get the most slack on, or
the most, in the comments section, but another
classic comedy starring Steve Martin and John
Candy, and I've never seen planes, trains, and
automobiles. Oh man. Yeah, it's... Again, bits
and pieces of it, but I've never sat down and
watched the whole thing. I don't know why. I'm
worried though. I'm worried because I can't remember
who it was. I think it was maybe one of the guys
on True Bromance or whatever had this as a list
of shame film and then they watched it as like
a piece of homework or something and then they
just came back and shit on it. And I really hope
that's not what happens when you finally watch
this. This is one of my favorite comedies of
that era. I have probably seen this. More times
than I should like I've probably seen this like
eight or nine times Which is a lot for me because
I don't usually rewatch a lot of movies So I'd
be very interested to see if you think this holds
up or not Or if it was just something that I
like because I saw when I was younger Yeah, I
mean I've been wanting to see it forever It was
on it's on TV a great deal though. I don't have
TV anymore, but I think it's on Netflix I really
have no excuse, but I need to just sit down and
watch it and I like Steve Martin I like John
Candy, so I feel like would the comedy would
still work for me because I know there's like
movies like ground all day with people see that
don't stand up, but I still love so Yeah, I'm
just a huge John Candy fan. I like most of just
about anything he ever did but this is one of
my favorite roles it is so I Definitely say check
that out soon so we can we can talk about it
Amanda have you seen Planes Transautomobile?
I don't know about in its entirety, but I feel
like I've seen it Not that memorable for you,
then? No. Okay. I haven't. Alright, everybody
re -watch it and report back. Plains Transnada
movies, man. Sorry, I'm thinking about scenes
from the movie now. Amanda. Number two. Oh, lord,
lord, lord. I think this has been thrown around
pretty recently, at least with me and Kevin.
And it's the fact that I've never seen when Harry
met Sally. Nor have I. Hiro is crying right now.
Is he? Yes, this is like one of his favorite
films of all time. I was not in the right mindset
to watch romantic comedies when this and everything
else came out in the 90s because I could have
cared less about romance at that time so I missed
almost all of these and I know this is the one
that gets probably the most acclaim but I've
not seen anything that Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan have
been in or I know that wasn't Harry Met Sally,
but they were in a bunch of other rom -coms at
the same time, so I haven't seen this one either.
Matt, have you seen When Harry Met Sally? I have
not. That's three of us, Dan. I'll make it three
for three. Is this something we need to cross
off our list, Dan? Is it something we need to
seek out? I have no idea. I don't know. I've
never, like, again, When Harry Met Sally, what
was the other one with... something in seattle
or sleep was in seattle, you got mail those i've
not seen like pretty much any romantic comedy
before i was uh... you know before i was dating
i didn't see so there you go me too so i'm with
you there i mean i know it's uh... it's uh...
talked about a lot and bothered about so i think
it fits the list but matt you were number two
so uh... I've put down two movies together because
in my head they're like the same idea of war
is hell sort of movies. One got mentioned before,
the other one's Kubrick, and that is Apocalypse
Now in Full Metal Jacket. I have not seen either
of them. That's two. I think it fits the list
perfectly, but it's another one of those where
you just have like... It's not every day that
you want to watch those films. But I mean, how
many people have seen Saving Private Ryan? I
feel like the same thing. Like, you can't just
go into watching Saving Private Ryan and expect
to come out in a good light here. I think Full
Metal Jacket is probably one that... Because
the first half is, because of R. Lee Ermey, is
somewhat funny because he's insanely hilarious
for all the wrong reasons, but the second half
is much different. But yeah, I agree. And Apocalypse
Now is very... methodically paste and there's
also two versions of it I think stick with the
original version but it's again it's one that
you do have to kind of sit back and absorb and
pay attention to and it's it's because it it
is so thick in thematically just like it's a
lot to get into so it will mess with your mind
so if you want your mind mess with Matt go see
both of them back to back yeah and then I'll
top it off with old boy Just fucking die Well,
I mean don't do that if it's the remake of the
remake is just bad the original old boy like
is It's so good. It was like it's like emotionally
draining. Oh, man That is a polarizing film too.
It seems like every other person you talked to
about old boy either likes it or doesn't like
it but man and old boy The triple feature of
old boy apocalypse now and full metal jacket
That would not be a fun. You'll need some counseling
afterwards for sure All right, I'm gonna go in
a completely different direction for my number
two Let's change it to a different mood here
And I'm also gonna do what Matt didn't put two
films together because I can't think of one without
thinking of the other I guess and I know Amanda
has seen both of these probably a number of times
but I have not, I am not ashamed to admit that
I have never seen Dirty Dancing or Footloose.
Amanda is giving me a look that does not translate
via audio right now. I'm sorry, Amanda. I have
not seen Dirty Dancing or Footloose. It wasn't
my cup of tea when it came out. So I also, I
mean, you could throw Saturday Night Fever if
that counts in there. I've not seen any of these
films. Are you okay with that? Do you see my
hair right now? I look like baby and I feel like
I got put in a corner. Dude. I've heard that
quote. Do you even carry watermelons, bro? I
don't know what's being said to me. I haven't
seen it either, but I know enough to quote it.
You jerk. All right. So, yeah, I mean, I'm not
thinking that they're going to be great films,
but I know they get talked about a lot. So I
haven't seen them. Sorry, Amanda. Sorry for you,
OK? I'll watch those. I'll watch those if you
watch Goonies. Hall of Godfather and Goonies.
Godfather and Goonies, there's a double bill
for ya. If you're going alphabetically, they're
both in the G section. So, you know, you gotta
watch them back -to -back Dan, what do you got
for number two? Oh, so you went with you know,
I'm gonna go with Make things sadder. I guess
I'm gonna go with another horror film that I
have not seen probably if I When I went to letterbox,
which was really helpful doing this actually,
you know high films that you have have seen and
I wish that on letterboxd you could do that with
other people's like i wish i could go to like
amanda yours or dan's yours and then have it
do the same thing that you can do for yourself
so you could see what other films other people
haven't seen or this and that would make for
some interesting research but i'm sorry i interrupted
you go ahead Yeah, so this was probably, I think,
one of the highest rated and most popular ones
I have not seen, and that's The Exorcist. So,
you know, I'm probably noted as the greatest
horror film ever made. I've just not seen that,
and kind of along the same lines, have not seen
Rosemary's Baby. What? I know, I know. I feel
like I failed as a person. Like I said in the
intro, though, you could have just said, I haven't
seen the most famous horror film, and you could
have thrown in like six different titles, and
I would be right there with you. I've not seen
these. I've not seen... Those or Carrie or a
lot of other things, but exorcist is definitely
one of the ones that gets the most praise I think
you're right by picking that one as the As higher
up on your list because a lot of people love
that film Amanda Are you appalled a? little bit
yeah, but it not surprising because Do a lot
of people really want to see a little girl go
through that? It's really disturbing. I traumatized
my little brother on accident. by watching this
he was supposed to be asleep and um it got to
the part where she was like there's a she comes
down the the flight of stairs there in her house
and in a an unnatural way will say that and it
flipped him the hell out when he walked into
the room and uh yeah i feel bad about that one
but i'm also still scared every time i watch
this movie and it still holds up with the how
freaky it is and i even know what's gonna happen
and it's still freaks me the hell out, so good
luck. Good luck, I guess, if you're going to
watch that one, she's saying. Rosemary's Baby,
I think I saw it too young as well, but I would
recommend that. There seems to be a trend there.
Yeah, I would recommend that. I know there's
a bunch of remakes of it, or newer ones as well,
but B -rated stuff. Go for the original, definitely.
All right. So that leaves space for only one.
our number one all the way around the room here,
starting with Amanda. What is your biggest regret?
No, it's not the biggest because you told me
that this didn't have to be in order, so this
is just the last one I'm going to talk about,
not the most important one. But that is the Breakfast
Club. I don't think I've ever seen the entire
room. It's not that you just haven't seen the
Breakfast Club. Anytime that I even suggest it,
point to it, or you even see the title or hear
somebody talk about it, you act... Like you're
disgusted. Aren't they just in a room the whole
time? Because the setting is the 100 % most important
part of a movie. I just don't want to watch a
bunch of kids sitting at desks for an hour and
a half. You know how many films we've seen in
the last couple years that have like a single
setting, a location? You've got a bunch of kids
in detention? I don't know. You just have bad
thoughts about bad connotations when it comes
to detentions? Some of us weren't perfect little
children, Kevin. Yeah, I had my share of detentions.
This is definitely a list of shame materials.
Shut the front door. Okay, I will stop talking.
But Goonies and Breakfast Club, you're killing
me. You know what? You're killing me. Alright.
I will shut up. Matt, save me. I'm going to save
you with the biggest cheat of all time, which
is I have seen probably less than half of Disney
movies. I'm going to give you a list here. Hold
on to your asses. I have not seen Cinderella,
Robin Hood, Mulan, Snow White, Hunchback, Bambi,
Up, Little Mermaid, Pinocchio, Dumbo, The Jungle
Book, Tangled, Peter Pan. Not one of them. What's
wrong with you? I'd drop my mic if it wasn't
on a stand. We did not plan that either. Do you
have an aversion to Disney films? No, it's just
I think growing up a boy in a family of mostly
boys, I just didn't encounter the Disney movies.
Like that's the only excuse I can think of is
that my older brother probably wasn't a fan and
so they never came down the pipeline to me. I
don't have anything against them. There are some
that I've watched that I didn't see as a kid.
Sleeping Beauty I watched two years ago that
I hadn't seen. I tried watching Snow White a
couple of years ago, but I fell asleep. It was
pretty late. I don't blame the movie so much
as just being tired. But yeah, I don't know.
It just hasn't happened. Have you watched certain
Disney films though and just not liked them where
it turned you off maybe from some of them? No,
no, I can't think of a Disney film I haven't
liked or haven't liked enough to not watch something
else. I just - And you've seen - I'm sorry, I
just had to keep going with this. You've seen
Aladdin and Lion King but not Little Mermaid?
Yeah, I've seen - I think even bigger, I've seen
Aladdin and Lion King and not Mulan, which I
think is in the same vein as those as being less
of a princess and more of like a boy -friendly
movie. I don't know how I missed that one. So
how does Amy feel about this? Because I'm a little
shocked that she's allowed this to go on the
floor. Oh, she owns all of them on VHS, most
of them on DVD, and it's been a point of contention
in the past. Yeah, I can feel that. I think you
would like a lot of them, but man, I'd like to
watch Robin Hood with you, just because that's
one of my all -time favorites. It was creepily
intimate. That just how you said that this seemed
like it was I would like to watch Robin Hood
the Disney Robin Hood with my friend Matt Watch
watch yourself. Don't fall asleep previous Robin
Hood's movies. I've watched with Kevin has been
pretty good All right for that shocks me that
is you win Matt by the way Nothing I can say
is going to top that, but everybody has their
certain films that they watch, some of which
have already been mentioned in this record as
far as, you know, every holiday they watch Gone
with the Wind or whatever it might be. Home Alone,
A Christmas Story, and the like. And we did that
as a family, I guess, in some ways. But apparently
my family is not like every other family in America
because I have never seen It's a Wonderful Life
or Miracle on 34th Street. Yeah. I haven't either.
You haven't? Really? I've seen pieces, but probably
not the whole thing. I thought I was the only
one. No. It just rained on my parade. But yeah,
I've seen like probably every other Christmas
themed movie ever made it seems like, but our
family never watched those too, so I've never
seen them. Dan, which one's better? Which one
should I cross off my list first? It's A Wonderful
Life is I think is a better movie than Miracle
on 31st Street. It was interesting because that
movie like It's A Wonderful Life is parodied
and kind of homage so much. I actually saw a
stage production of it last year, which was pretty
good. So I think that's certainly a better movie.
Miracle on 31st Street is like a nice family
film for sure. Yeah, that's surprising again,
and you talked about movies that are always on
TV. It's like what is that a Christmas movie?
That's on TBS for like four days straight, right?
So yeah, I hate with a passion. I hate a Christmas
story though I don't know why but something about
that stupid kid and that red rider BB gun or
whatever I was forced to watch that in school
and I hated it. I would much rather watch it.
What the hell did you watch that in school? It
was like Hey, it's let's have a Christmas party
and not do anything the last day before break
and we'll throw on Christmas movies and this
is the one they threw on so there's either that
or Usually Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
I got forced to watch the Santa Claus. So that's
So that is my number one confession Dan what
is yours? So my number one's pretty bad, because
okay, so Good Filthless is like one of my top
five favorite films of all time. I've seen a
lot of Scorsese, like Taxi Driver, Mean Streets,
some of his early films like Boxcar Bertha, pretty
much everything post -2000s, and this is a movie
I actually kind of thought I saw previously,
but I've come to realize I actually never have,
and it's one that's actually been mentioned already,
and it's Casino. I've actually never seen Casino,
which I feel is ultra shameful considering how
much I do love me some Scorsese. There's other
ones of him I haven't seen like Temptation of
Christ and a few others, but I feel Casino, considering
my love of Goodfellas, is no excuse. One I need
to buckle down and watch again. When I originally
watched Goodfellas and Casino, because it was...
very close proximity as far as the time that
I mean I watched both of those for the first
time probably within a year or two at the most
and as a younger person seeing those like I almost
couldn't even separate which which one I liked
better and they both seemed like so similar to
me that I kind of just kind of grouped them together
now as I've rewatched both of them multiple times,
there's a much bigger gap between them and Goodfellas
is by far the better film. But I think Casino
is still worth watching just to watch those actors
back when they still were acting and giving it
their all and having parts that were seemingly
made for them. If you liked Goodfellas, you're
going to like Casino, but it does have some issues
that Goodfellas doesn't. So I would be interested
to kind of Have you watched that and kind of
get your take on? Because I don't think you'll
like it as well as you'd like good fellas either
and I'd be interested To hear your take on why
to see if it lines up with the same kind of problems
I have with casino, even though I still really
like the movie But yeah, that's surprising to
me based on how much you like good fellas and
how much you've liked most of the other Scorsese
films that I've heard you talk about Yeah, I
know I got I got to get on that for sure probably
it's probably the Like it's inspired me to try
to knock some of these off my list of shame and
I think that's probably the first one I'm gonna
go for so just doing this whole Idea of coming
up with this list make me start knocking films
off of it because it was so big that I I mean
I watched where the wild things are vertigo Glingery
Glen Ross and a couple other things just so I
could say I've seen them but Real quick we're
gonna go back through and give our ten picks
or the ten things we had because and the reason
I want to kind of The reason I want to recap
it as briefly as we can is I want the... We're
going to put a poll up on the website for each
of us and let the people vote on which thing
they think is the most shameful or the one that
is the most. We need to go watch it right now
so they can each vote on our list. So Amanda,
why don't you go back through and give the voters
and the listeners what they have to choose from.
What were your list of shame films? Oh man, no
particular order here. Passion of the Christ,
Casablanca, Goonies, The Godfather, any of them.
The Breakfast Club, Rocky Horror Picture Show,
When Harry Met Sally, Sid and Nancy, Rudy, and
Enter the Dragon. Alright, Matt, what was your
list of shame? Fight Club, Tron, 2001 A Space
Odyssey, Rocky, A Clockwork Orange, Citizen Kane,
Taxi Driver, Apocalypse Now, Slash Full Metal
Jacket, Godfather 1 and 2 in any of the Associated
Mom movies, or half of Disney's catalog. For
my list I had The Shining slash Clockwork Orange,
Psycho, Caddyshack, The Before Trilogy, Pre -Brosnan,
James Bond films, Gone with the Wind, The Iron
Giant, Dirty Dancing slash Footloose, Wonderful
Life slash Miracle on 34th Street, and all of
- The Rocky movies. Dan, what was your list of
shame? Ah, Requiem for a Dream, Halloween Franchise,
Such Friday the 13th Franchise, Wayne's World,
Donnie Darko, The Searchers, Gone with the Wind,
Unbreakable, Planes, Trains, and Automobiles,
The Exorcist slash Rosemary's Baby, and Casino.
Alright. I don't think we necessarily need to
do honorable mentions because I think there's
so many that we would have to list and it might
eventually allow us to revisit this idea. once
we've knocked some of these off the list. But
definitely a lot of things out there that we're
going to have to catch up on and report back.
We'll see how the listeners vote and what they
think is the biggest thing that we should make
a priority to go watch immediately. Dan, out
of all those that are on your list, is there
one that is kind of highest that you want to
or think that you're going to knock off soonest?
Soonest? Is that a word? Maybe? I don't know.
I was actually looking to see which ones of these
are available on streaming, and there's not a
bunch of them, unfortunately. I think I'm going
to try to go with either plane trains and automobiles,
because I think that one is streaming, or casino,
like I mentioned, just because I feel like I
need to do it. I just have to figure it out.
Go for it. For me, it would probably be the before
trilogy or the Alfred Hitchcock films that I
mentioned that I haven't seen and just because
there's so many of them and since I just started
with Vertigo, I'd like to see some more of those.
Amanda, which one are you most eager to knock
off your list? Sid and Nancy, I'd say, just because
I have the most vested in my love for Gary Oldman.
And Matt, Disney catalog, is that top on your
list? I mean if it's what would I want to see
the most probably yeah something from there either
Mulan or Tangled I think look the most interesting
or up those all look really interesting but the
one that's most likely to get knocked off is
Fight Club because the guy who yells at me a
lot is he's transferring out of state in a month
and I'd like to see it before he leaves just
to give him peace of mind. so you have to let
us know like we said vote on our polls let us
know what your thoughts are on this episode if
you want to see us do something like this again
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Candy Mandy. I know why. Matt, yours is? I'm
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of Volts. And Dan, what do you have coming up
on Talking in Circles in the next week or so?
Well, inspired by... To X -Men Apocalypse, we
will be trying to create our own Four Horsemen
of the Apocalypse by getting four different characters
to fit the roles of famine, pestilence, death,
and more. And we're choosing from all realms
of comics and nonfiction, so it should be fun.
Nice that should be a fun episode to listen to
and you can also listen to some of the ones that
they just put out They had the desert island
episode that you just put out recently. That
was fun as well We will be back next week to
talk about X -Men Apocalypse and then following
that will be right in the right time frame to
give you our June preview and as always we'll
be getting back to the video game series spotlight
that we've been doing and also our second film
in the Miyazaki spotlight so a lot of stuff to
look forward to in June from us here at the Cinema
Geeks but that is it for us for now be sure to
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