Double Dragon Review

Hey, this is Greg Berger and you are listening

to the Geekcast Radio Network. Today on episode

90 of The Cinema Geeks, we take a look at what's

in store for director James Cameron. We discuss

why you should or should not be excited for the

Kingsman sequel. And in our main attraction,

we continue our video game film series by taking

a closer look at 1994's Double Dragon. All that

and more coming up on episode 90 with The Cinema

Geeks. That's right, it's episode 90 of The Cinema

Geeks. I am one of your geeks, Optimus Solo.

Joining me today, as you heard in the intro,

is Hard Candy Mandy. Yo. Yo again? You wanna

use that last week, I think. I don't care. Move

your vote, Dan. Hello? I'm not sure what I used

last week, so I'm gonna go with hi. You did not

use that one, so that's right. It's a classic

choice, though. Fred Lee Sen, how we doing? Sup.

Sup. I'm different. than last week, because I

don't say that. We gotta work on our intro. Why

is everybody hating on what I fucking said? Dude,

I have energy to say yo. So what you get is yo.

No, it was funny because I started, I've listened

back to a few episodes and literally every single

person uses the same thing every single time.

I can't believe it. And I respond in the exact

same way to all of your same comments, too. So

I'm like, man, we could just literally record

the same thing and play it. Hey, if I could have

been on the Batman v Superman, I had every intention

of when you said my name to be like, ugh, why'd

you say that name? But I wasn't there for that

record, so I missed that joke opportunity. Man,

that's a travesty. Something good could have

come out of that. Anyways, we're... We're gonna

start by talking about some news stories from

the past a week real quick before we jump into

our double dragon discussion. We'll try to delay

that as long as humanly possible. And we're going

to start in the world of Avatar. We talked about

in the opening about what is in store for James

Cameron. I know this has been long rumored that

there would be more installments of Avatar, but

the recent revelation, I guess, if you want to

call it, is we're getting not one, not two, not

three, but four sequels between now and 2023.

So Avatar 2, which was originally scheduled for

this year, is actually going to be coming out

Christmas of 2018, Avatar 3 Christmas of 2020,

and then 2021 and 2022 for Avatar 4 and Avatar

5. And just to give you guys a little bit of

some context for what's going on with these sequels.

And this is a quote from James Cameron. We've

decided to embark on a truly massive cinematic

process. We've begun to bump up against the limitation

of our art form. There's just too much story.

He added that each successive film won't necessarily

follow on from one another, but instead work

together like a cinematic universe. Each one

of the sequels stands alone, but together form

a complete saga, a true epic saga told in this

rich complex world. Dan, I'll let you react first.

Don't think there's a movie that has come and

gone quicker and bigger than that of avatar like

it's made a billion dollars, but like I so its

impact on like pop culture is so Miniscule and

I feel like at this point. It's just I don't

know it I could care less about an avatar sequel.

I do actually like the movie, but I just What

was it eight years ago that them for the last

one came out and they've been talking about doing

sequels forever And then this keeps getting pushed

back So this is to me I'll believe it when I

see it type of situation because I feel like

we keep hearing about all these sequels But they

haven't shot one yet and right and I'm sure there's

other singing sunken ships in the sea that James

Cameron can go after and he's not on so who knows

if they were gonna happen Thanks, well played

Yeah, like I said the first original rumor was

that our next avatar would have been here this

year So that clearly did not happen and two things

about this for me number one I think I would

like this to be a lesson twofold lesson the first

lesson that I would like this to prove is Because

I don't think the second avatar is going to do

nearly what the first one did and I would like

this to be a lesson of don't plan three four

five sequels when you don't even know if your

first one's gonna be successful and Number two

these are all slated to go to be released in

December Which means almost every single one

of them will go against Star Wars And I would

like that to be a lesson that that is not a wise

choice So I mean statistically it's beating Star

Wars in the worldwide gross. I Don't think Avatar

2 is going to compete with What see that would

be I don't know which Star Wars will have in

Christmas of 2018, but I don't know that we really

want avatar Star Wars battles every Christmas

Amanda what about you? What about you more avatar

fan or no? I mean I dug the first one I've only

seen it a couple times, but I think I would be

interested in seeing a sequel But I'm not so

sure that we need four fucking sequels, but I

mean it if it you could say that you could literally

say that in regards to any franchise just about.

Except for I'm gonna go with maybe like Star

Wars, James Bond, and not necessarily a need

for four of them. I agree with you on that one.

Matt, what do you think? Are you a big fan of

the first Avatar? Haven't seen it. Don't care

for it. Looks like Fern Gully. It is. I like

Fern Gully. I mean, I liked Fern Gully too when

it was like in the 90s. The sequel? Oh. But yeah.

Okay, so let's move on for my avatar news. Let's

get into the other thing We teased a little bit

as far as the Kingsman sequel cast I don't know

if you guys have been keeping up on this or not

But I'm just gonna go through all the names so

far that have been linked to the Kingsman sequel

Colin Firth returning Matthew Vaughn back as

director Taryn Edgerton Mark Strong back the

addition of Julianne Moore Halle Berry and Channing

Tatum and wait for the last one guys Elton John

There you go So Amanda let's go to you first

cuz you're a big Channing Tatum fan also obviously

the addition of Julianne Moore Halle Berry and

Elton John What do you think my first question

is how? Don't ask. Second of all, any movie with

my boy in it, I am down for. I really did like

Taron Egerton. Wait, is your boy Elton John?

Possibly. I mean, we boys. I didn't know Chris

Hemsworth was in this movie. I do like Channing

Tatum. I hope that he dances for me, shirtless

at some point. Might not happen, but I can always

hope. I hope Elton John dances shirtless for

you. Oh, Jesus. Lord have mercy. Tan, what do

you think about the casting so far? Oh, and I

forgot to give you the tweet that revealed this

from Channing Tatum on Twitter here. I'm about

to get all up in that golden circle. Hashtag

Kingsman. All right. Well, there you go. What

do you think of the cast so far, Tan? I'm just

hoping Elton John plays the villain of some sort.

Like, that's the way it's going. But yeah, calling

for us coming back. I don't know if that'll be...

Like I don't know flashbacks or if it's some

like sort of robot clone thing, but I don't go

Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. So we'll

see. Yeah, I think the cashing's fine I think

it's like I like changing tandem as an actor

He certainly has comedic chops and he can dance

like no other so that that should be fun Matt

are you on board for a Kingsman 2? Well, unlike

Avatar, I saw and liked the original Kingsman.

I don't know that it needed a sequel, but I'm

down until I know that it's not good. It's a

good motto, I think. That's unfortunately the

way a lot of sequels go, and it's usually pretty

clear from either the trailer or from like the

opening scene. that you're not in for a good

time. But all right, moving on to some comic

book stuff. I don't know if this is necessarily

news, but it has been confirmed by the head of

the studio that a standalone Batman film with

Ben Affleck is officially greenlit and ready

to go. Dan, are you excited to see more of Ben

Affleck as Batman? Yeah, actually I am. I am

excited to see him, especially if he's directing

it and writing it. And I did like him in that

film when I thought he portrayed the character

well. And I do think they give a lot of hints

over to how he became that Batman. So I'm just

curious if it's going to be more of a flashback.

Is it after the events of BBS? Is it a combination

of both? But yeah, I'm all for it. I'm much more

excited for it. another Batman movie, honestly,

than I am for Justice League. Matt, you are not

a big fan of Batman versus Superman, but not

a lot of people were, yet there still seems to

be a lot of people still excited for either Justice

League or these other projects. Is a standalone

Batman film amongst the projects that you would

be excited for as well? I think Ben Affleck was

top two greatest things in that movie, and I

think he will be a great Batman. I'm sure a lot

of the haters shut up after they saw it. because

he was like the least bad thing in that whole

movie. And hopefully it does explain Batman.

Like that will get rid of a good third of my

issues with Batman v Superman as if it's before

the movie. Which would just be a great, it could

call Batman the retcon. And then like in future

years people would just watch that first and

then watch Batman v Superman and maybe it becomes

a better movie. It's like a reverse of the Star

Wars prequels. Exactly. Amanda, you were a big

fan of Batman vs Superman. Are you also super

on board for Batman, whatever they're going to

call it? Yeah, I think that Batman vs Superman

intrigued me to see more of it. I think it did

its job in making me want to see more of his

life and be along for his struggles. Alright,

so everybody seems to be on board. I would echo

that as well I'm fine seeing more Ben Affleck

as that character and let's just get away from

the character of Superman and I think we'll be

alright so Sticking with the comic book world

here rumors flying From everywhere on the internet

this week that Michael Keaton may be in talks

to play The villain in I guess they're calling

it spider -man homecoming. Is that the official

title for the next spider -man film? Spider -man

homecoming that seems like a bizarre title and

apparently Michael Keaton may be playing the

main villain there So Dan, what do you think

of Michael Keaton going back now to the comic

book world? We mean after Birdman, of course.

Yes Yeah, sure, I mean he's been killing it lately

with spotlight and everything else so I mean

he's been doing in our wrong I I'm not sure if

he's playing the villain who he would play I've

heard rumors of people saying like carnage which

I guess it's possible. I just hope he doesn't

play Norman Ahns, Osborn, or Green Goblin just

because I feel like we've had our full on that

character. It's so weird sometimes in these comic

book films, especially the ones that have had

Batman and Spider -Man have probably been the

ones that have been done the most. They have

a lot of villains, or am I saying this right,

members of their rogues gallery? Spider -Man

is one of the best. He's got tons of people to

choose from. But it seems like in the films they

like to continue to go back to a certain group

of them over and over and over again. Matt, do

you think that there's a certain character that

Michael Keaton would be a good fit for in Spider

-Man? Well, actually, I searched up Michael Keaton

Birdman, because I don't remember what the Birdman

suit looked like. And I was like, what does he

look like nowadays in a superhero, super villain

costume? And honestly, just the regular him,

Michael Keaton pictures associated with that

movie, he could probably do a decent carnage.

A little old, but he could look the part for

sure. Amanda, what do you think about Michael

Keaton being a villain this time, instead of

a hero in the superhero film? All I can think

about is when he was in Batman and he's like,

you want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. And he

like, he broke some stuff. Like, I think he can

get nuts. Alright, I'm intrigued as well. I'd

like to see him more on the villain side. I don't

know, you know, who he'd play and how it would

all work out. But I just hope that they change

the title of that film at some point before it

comes out. Sounds like a bad... High school dance

with it sounds like a made -for -tv like animated

film or something They said they're trying to

go like a John Hughes type of vibe. So I don't

know but yeah, yeah Like they're gonna all be

in detention He's the one that did Breakfast

Club. Oh, man. I feel so old right now. But it

wouldn't surprise me if homecoming is actually

Marvel's hands saying like, oh, we want to show

our dominance and how we're helping you. So it's

coming home. And that has to be the name. Also

a lot of rumors flying around that there will

be more Marvel characters showing up in that

Spider -Man film because apparently we'll never

have just a single film with a superhero again

in the Marvel universe. So we'll have to wait

and see how that plays out. Other news, kind

of off the wall, I guess. But for those of you

that were holding your breath and waiting, you

don't have to wait, I guess, too much longer.

Bill and Ted 3 confirmed to have a script, director,

studio, and both Alex Winter and Keanu Reeves

on board. They're just waiting for a specific

date to start filming. Amanda, based on your

visible reaction that nobody can see because

this is a podcast, I'll let you go first. I don't

have words. I literally stopped what I was doing

to listen. I perked up a little bit. I'm excited

for that. What? Bill and Ted. But they're old

as fuck now. Keanu Reeves is old. Dude. He doesn't

age. He does age. When would he have time? He's

in the John Wick sequel. Just focus on John Wick,

Keanu. Yeah, but John Wick in Bill and Ted? Doesn't

work. Dan, is there any need for a bill on Ted3?

Oh, of course, there's major need for it. I mean,

I'm surprised they got Alec Winter, his schedule

is so booked, like how they... And the quote

was, it wasn't confirmed by Keanu Reeves, it

was Alec Winter saying that Keanu Reeves was

a part of this. So maybe he was just hopeful.

I don't know. I mean, I really do find those

films enjoyable, especially Bogus Journey. I

hope Death comes back and saddles in the station.

Is Death still alive? I don't know. I don't know

if that guy's still alive or not. I'm not sure.

Matt, weigh in on this. Bill and Ted 3, are you

excited? Uh, no. Why? What is wrong with you?

Here's the thing. I'm not going to write in someone

else's parade. If they want Bill and Ted 3, they

can have it. Give it to me. Yeah, no. Make it.

make four, five, six. Like, that's not... Like,

Bill and Ted doesn't have that artistic integrity

that something like Avatar should have. Like,

where it's like, we did something amazing, and

it was the first, and we're gonna leave it and

have it on this pedestal. Bill and Ted is just

a fun movie that, you know, I probably would

even see it if someone paid for it. Like, I don't

know, it's been 25 years since the last one.

That's a long time. Like, I can't see either

of, like, either of those characters should probably

end up washed up dudes on their couch, or stoners,

more so than - You were Johnny on the spot with

the date there, I'm impressed. I went to IMDB,

for a few reasons. One, to figure out how old

Keanu Reeves is, and I can confirm he was in

that painting from 400 years ago, so he probably

doesn't age. Nice. Alright, I got another news

story that is, I just wanted to share because

I know it's gonna make at least a couple of us

groan. Next on Disney's list to receive live

-action treatment. We have to do this every couple

months. Apparently they want to take it to, what

was it, Warner Brothers that did Peter Pan last

year? Or whoever did the Pan movie from 2015

that was awful. So apparently Disney wants to

do it right. So Peter Pan has been added to the

slate for Disney's live -action treatment. If

you haven't been keeping track, we already have

on that schedule sequels to Alice in Wonderland,

Maleficent, They've already just started talking

about a sequel to Jungle Book which is just being

released in theaters. A Beauty and the Beast

live action film with Emma Watson and a Tinkerbell

live action film with Reese Witherspoon and of

course Tinkerbell is also in the Peter Pan universe

so none of that makes sense to me. Dan... Is

Disney going crazy with all their different live

-action stuff? I mean do we need another Peter

Pan? No, we do not they did it so greatly last

time while I do it again It is they didn't they

do one like in 3 ,000 I could have sworn there

was like another live -action one around that

time I think they I think that the article said

that this is this would be Disney's third Uh,

film that had to deal with live -action Peter

Pan characters. Uh, I guess if you can't hook

in that, so, yeah. Yeah, so... I mean, yeah,

why not a hook sequel? What's Rufio doing? He

can, he can definitely do... I guess he's dead,

so that doesn't count. Oh, man! Rufio's dead?

Sorry, isn't everybody involved in that film

dead? We mean the character, not the actual actor.

But, sorry. Rufio's dead? But, I don't know.

Yeah, I thought you were talking about the actual

dude. I thought we were making a bad... Robin

Williams joke. Oh no, jeez, I didn't even consider

that. That's terrible. Oh man, sorry. I stopped

this conversation immediately. This went down

a dark path, but anyways, no to Peter Pan. Amanda,

I know you like Peter Pan, but we're already

getting the Tinkerbell film. Do they need a Peter

Pan one as well? I really give two shits about

Tinkerbell, but the whole... The whole ensemble,

yes. I am always down to see live action Peter

Pan. I've even gone to see plays and musicals

where Peter Pan is played by a lady. I don't

know, I like the universe, I like the lore. I

dig it, this last little rendition with... Fuck.

Hugh Jackman? Hugh Jackman, yeah. Not right.

Not right at all. So I think Disney was like,

uh, no, no, no, no. We can just scrub that and

show you guys how it's done. Yeah, that's definitely

not a Disney film from last year, so we don't

want to mix that up. We damn sure don't need

800 Robin Hoods. There's only going to be four

of those. Matt, what do you think? What do you

think on this whole live -action Disney stuff?

I don't know. Like, Disney... is, I think, finally

making its power play. It's got Marvel, it's

got Star Wars, and it's had little girls for

the last 60 years. And it's now just going to

just juggernaut its way through the film industry

and just leave us with no other options. Like,

I mean, I haven't seen any of the Alice in Wonderland

live actions. Maleficent was okay. I don't know

if I'm gonna see the Jungle Book. Like, Beauty

and the Beast doesn't super excite me. Like,

it's all these things. It's like... I don't want

to say hey don't make these because like they're

gonna be like a man that want to see them but

at the same time it's like you're not gonna get

my money you're already getting it at Star Wars

I saw that five times I'm gonna see the next

one five times I'm kind of hit or miss with the

Disney live -action stuff some of the stuff I'm

not as excited for some of the stuff I am I'm

down for the Beauty and the Beast live -action

film I care less about Tinkerbell I, even though

I somewhat did like the first Maleficent more

than a lot of people, I don't necessarily need

a sequel to that. I'm super excited about Jungle

Book, but that doesn't mean I'd be excited. For

no reason. That doesn't mean I'd be excited for

a Jungle Book sequel, so I don't know. It's a

lot of hit or miss for me for that, but I'm definitely

not on board for any more Peter Pan by any studio.

Just let that character stand out for a while.

Why? He doesn't die, he doesn't age. Yeah, keep

the shit going. Maybe if they like waited ten

years in between but making one every like three

years. So people can hang around with a bad taste

in their mouth about Hugh Jackman and his teeth

and his hair and whatever pants he was wearing.

The rocks, the rock. The pointy shoes. The opera

that they put on. I want to see this pan like

I wanted to see it. No you don't. Every time

everyone talks about it's like I need to see

this. They sing Nirvana. They are singing Nirvana

as a group. Alright, let's move on from Disney

stuff here to go to a different studio. Universal

in 2017 will be putting out an animated feature

which features the Grinch and it's just been

released that the voice of the Grinch in that

feature will be done by Benedict Cumberbatch.

The Batch. Amanda, what do you think about a

new feature involving the Grinch? I super enjoy...

watching the original animated work still to

this day no matter how old I am and say what

you will judge away but I really really like

the Jim Carrey live -action Grinch I think it's

hilarious I love to re -watch that one too I'm

a big Jim Carrey fan though so I was kind of

suckered in from the get -go but I think he was

amazing as kind of this quirky Grinch or whatever

but the batch you can't say no to him being the

voice of anything, really. Pretty sure. Dan,

do you think he fits as a voice or bringing the

grinch to life? I think so, seeing some of his

voice work and just thinking of what he did with

Smog. and things like that. So he certainly has

that type of voice to him. I mean, to me, like,

the original animated one holds up so well. I

don't know if necessarily you need to do a sequel

or do a remake or whatever this is called, but

I'm glad that they're going the animated route

rather than live action. Though I've actually

never seen the live action version of Grinch,

so I can't... You're nervous, aren't you? I'm

gonna break your stuff over here. These are getting

violent, geez. They are. She's holding Indiana

Jones hostage here. Going into the last news

story for today. Not everybody obviously gets

excited about score as much as some people do,

but they have released that the person in charge

of doing the score for Rogue One, a Star Wars

story, which we already knew was not going to

be John Williams, is going to be Alexander Desplaw.

I can never say his name right. But Dan, you

know of him and his work. Do you think that's

a good choice for the score for Rogue One? He's

taken over for John Williams already before with

the... The Harry Potter movies and I've enjoyed

his scores there He's somewhat hit or miss for

me. He's done a lot of just I feel Forgettable

scores yet there were for movies that necessarily

didn't need a really powerful score So I think

you know looking at some of his more notable

work. He certainly has the ability to do so and

I mean, it's kind of sad seeing John only was

not to a Star Wars movie But if someone I think

he's at least one of the few people that has

the opportunity knowing he's already done it

before Matt, are you sad also by the fact that

we'll have our first Star Wars film not done

by John Williams? Well, are we discounting the

other three Star Wars films not done by John

Williams? Because we had a theatrical release

between the Clone Wars movie and then both of

the Ewoks movies did not have John Williams'

involvement. Those do not count. Whoa! The Clone

Wars theatrical release is actually canon still,

unlike the other two. I don't know anything about

this guy. I am... I'm hopeful for anything. John

Williams is like 84. Yeah. I wonder how much

is he that young? He even does at this point.

He's just like... It's like Star Wars every couple

of years. They just let him wave the stick standing

up there and someone else stands behind him and

actually conducts things. Nonsense. Hey, he's

on the... There's a whole special feature on

the Force Awakens DVD just about him. I haven't

watched it yet, but... going into the music behind

that film. He's actually like an animatron robot.

We're wrong. Alright, so that does it for the

news this week. You'll have to give us your thoughts

on any of those things we covered and if you

agree or disagree with any of our takes on that

stuff. We're going to take a quick break, but

when we come back we're going to continue our

video game series and we're going to get into

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The mystical powers of the dragon are dangerous

for one person to possess. Power. Alright, so

where's the on button? Justice. It's our responsibility

to protect the dragon. Darkness. This is only

half. Find me the other half now. Light. Let's

kick some butt. Double. Dragon. Double Dragon.

All right, thanks for sticking with us. As I

said before the break, it's time to get into

our second of our video game franchise films.

We had Super Mario Brothers in our first episode

and now we move one year past that into 1994

where we find the film Double Dragon. Before

we get into the actual film, just want to give

a little bit of background on our... intelligence

level or our exposure, I guess, to the actual

video game. So Matt, we'll start with you. Did

you play Double Dragon as a kid or any version

of the different Double Dragon games? And then

I guess what did you know about the video game

before watching the film? Okay, so I grew up

on the NES. I had Double Dragon 1 for sure. I

might have had Double Dragon 2, but I was also,

you know, like 6. So I don't know if I ever beat

anything beyond a Bobo in the first Double Dragon

and I don't remember at all Double Dragon 2 at

all but when I look up the cover it's like yeah

that looks familiar oh that's kind of like me

like I remember playing the game but I couldn't

tell you much about it besides the color that

each one wore and kind of what you did in the

game but I didn't really remember any of the

ins and outs it was when I was growing up it

was more of a presence in like arcades I mean,

I had a lot of the old school video games and

television and Pong and the Commodore 64 and

stuff like that, but I never... I already went

that. I'll update myself a little bit there.

But I never had like the NES version, but I remember

Double Dragon being like one of those things

that if you wanted to play it, you had to actually

go to an arcade. And since the nearest arcade...

to me would have required me to convince somebody

to drive me like thirty minutes to get to it.

I didn't really play - I think you get it for

living in farm country. I know. So I didn't get

to play much of Double Dragon as far as the arcade

goes and I never had it for NES so I never played

it there. I did play it I think at some friend's

house and what not but I don't know a lot about

the video game. world and kind of what went into

it other than the basic premise. Dan, did you

have any exposure to Double Dragon? I played

a little bit of the game and not a great deal.

I remember very little. I just remember being

like a, you know, sidescore beat -em -up type

of game. Right. But I did actually watch the

cartoon series of Double Dragon. Oh man. Which

is... Was that in the 90s? It was in the 90s

and it was very 90s. Yeah, it's like you had

them wearing like legitimately dragon like heads

like... Point in time and their chests would

light up with their different tattoos. It's it's

not very good I actually watched a few clips

of it. I'm like, how did I watch this does not

hold up very well But yeah, so that's I had more

exposure to that than the actual game itself

Okay, and Amanda did you know double dragon was

a video game? Yes, I never had to play it um,

I didn't get video game systems until I was like

Late middle school high school because my mom

believed in kids playing outside So she kind

of banned them from the house. So I've seen this

movie before. That's about it. Okay. Well, since

none of us know too much about the game, Matt,

people liked being educated by you when we did

Super Mario Bros. when you went into some of

the actual manuals that came with the games and

some of the inner stories. Do you have anything

similar for us for Double Dragon that you can

kind of set the stage before we get into the

film? So I pulled up the manuals for Double Dragon

1, 2, and 3 for the NES, and as far as I can

tell, this movie is a half -hearted amalgamation

of all three stories. Each one's about a paragraph.

I'm gonna read them off real quick if that's

okay. The first one double dragon is the story

of Billy and Jimmy Lee twin brothers who learns

that To fight on the cold tough streets of the

city their expert knowledge of martial arts combined

with their street smarts has made them both formidable

fighting machines But now Billy is faced with

this greatest challenge his girlfriend Marianne

has been or Marion has been kidnapped by the

black warriors the savage street gang of the

mysterious shadow boss Using whatever weapons

come to hand if that Billy must purr sue the

gang through the slums, factories, and wooded

outskirts of the city to reach the hideout for

his final confrontation with the Shadow Boss,

his brother Billy. Which is really weird to have

page one of the manual ruin the story's twist

at the end, but we all know how NES graphics

were and you probably couldn't tell. So Double

Dragon 2 is the Black Shadow Warriors have done

the unthinkable. They've gunned down your girl.

Now you and your brother Jimmy apparently friends

again are out for revenge And then so this one

is a little bit closer nuclear war has ravaged

the city and a gang of ruthless criminals The

black shadow warriors are trying to take over

their danger with a capital D thugs and muggers

tough So 90s thugs and muggers tough street chicks

greasers and hoods high jumpers and karate choppers

That's just a sentence um high jumpers those

are the ones you gotta worry about dude the high

jumpers plus burly bosses gruesome giants and

freaky and robots um they essentially they destroy

your dojo and they've killed your girlfriend

And now we - Well, it's different. In Double

Dragon 2, actually, Billy and Jimmy have become

famous for destroying a gang with their kung

fu and have actually amassed the students and

everything. They're famous for doing that rather

than no one knows anything. So in Double Dragon

2, you beat the Black Shadow Warriors only to

find out that Marion is still alive. Like, your

beloved Marion lay as still as a mountain stone,

but suddenly the color returns to her lips. Marion

lives and you are now a supreme master with a

sense of power greater than you ever imagined

possible. So in Double Dragon 3, life is returned

to normal, your famous Double Dragon Dojo is

doing well, your students are learning the ways

of ancient masters and building their strengths.

Brett, one of your top students, tries to tell

you what happened, but he is cut down before

he has a chance. And then it happened. Sudden

Marion has disappeared again. It can't be the

Black Shadow Warriors. Who is it this time? And

then you travel the world looking for the three

stones of power, which somehow doesn't make it

into that paragraph, but is the premise of that

game. Alright. So now we know what the games

were based on, and I guess that leads pretty

good into our first talk, which is how well we

think this film represents the video game we're

not talking about if the film is good or bad

if it's you know acting writing etc is good or

bad we're just talking about does it feel like

Double Dragon on the screen and Amanda you probably

had the the least exposure to the game but based

on everything you just heard from Matt did you

feel like you're in a video game world while

watching Double Dragon I do yeah I think that

it I don't even really know what the word would

be describe. I want to say cartoony, but it's

not it has like a That vibe to it. That seems

like you're in a video game maybe not as In a

similar way to Mario Brothers But I don't know

how to compare it to what you actually saw in

the game I would have liked to be able to see

like gameplay. Maybe I should have looked that

up Before watches to see it. I mean Dan watched

the damn cartoon Yeah, Dan. It's on you now,

bro. Dan, how well do you think this represents

the video game that we either played or at least

heard about? Well, I think the key word in this

was martial arts, and I think I've actually saw

more martial arts in Super Mario Bros. than this,

if I'm gonna be honest. I don't know how well

it represents the game. There were little things

they did, considering the fact that the actual

game was in the background. At one point, it's

like, wow, they're really just going to put it

right there, are they? Yep, yeah, there you go.

But then they did say they liked, I don't know,

when they saw the one bad guy and you saw his

mugshot, that kind of looked like it came from

a video game because it was all weird. And some

of the special effects looked like they came

from the NES, so I guess they kept it that way

as well. But I don't know, considering what was

said, I don't see this. Widing up all that much.

I mean they had the gangs and everything so they

kept that so it's not completely void of lore

from the game But overall it seemed like it just

kind of did its own thing. I mean Unless you

are not in a video game, why wouldn't every vehicle

that you touch have a tracking system and is

weaponized and has this whole database of everybody

and how much they can bench press and shit? Of

course, that's a total video game feel. I want

to jump into any vehicle and know everything

about my surroundings and be able to blow whatever

I want up. You have a camera on your car that

somehow is looking over a satellite though it's

pointing forward. I've got to say, like, they

inserted a ton of video game graphics, visual

things to this that don't seem like they have

anything to do with Double Dragon. So, I mean,

they do have a lot of video game elements, but

they're not Double Dragon elements. Like, at

one point, I thought we were watching, like,

Psych -Bite or whatever that video game was,

or, like, one of those, like, old -school, like...

pre NES like racing games when they're when they're

doing the different car stuff like some of those

graphics were just so cheesy and and bad but

still video game -esque but not anything i remember

seeing in double dragon so i don't know about

that matt do they get points for at least getting

the color of the outfits for each brother correct

i where mario didn't i want to say yes only here's

the thing um in the 90s So I listened to another

podcast that's doing essentially the same thing

we're doing. They're jumping around, which might

be better, although it's probably worse because

I think ours are going to get progressively better.

And as far as I can tell, in the 90s, all a video

game movie had to do was tell the story of how

they got into the costume they're in in the video

game, because that's how almost all of them end,

and have a reference to video games in them.

And that made them a video game movie? And that's

pretty much all this was was the story of how

they got the the outfits they're wearing at the

beginning of the first game But I guess they

got the colors, right? So other than that you're

saying it's not a very good representation of

the actual game. There is a lot of fighting going

on I don't have the right type of fighting fighting

going like I mean, they clearly drew some elements.

They got the post -apocalypse of the second game.

They've got the hunting down the items across

the world of the third game. They got the names

from the first game. But I mean, it's not incredibly

faithful, but it's not any more ridiculous than

the original games, I guess. As far as story

goes, I mean, it doesn't look like them. Like,

if you're watching it, you wouldn't go, oh, this

is Double Dragon. It doesn't give that feel.

I don't think you would, yeah, if you take the

actual Double Dragon pendants, I guess, out of

it, and maybe their costumes from the last scene,

sequence, I don't know if you'd ever be able

to tell that this was Double Dragon unless I

guess you heard some of the names being called

out. Where else is underground karate sparring

a thing? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That's

in training. This is not training, this is like

bloodsport. Yeah, I was gonna say bloodsport,

you know. Alright, so maybe not a great representation

of the actual video game. How about the actual

film itself, Dan? Does it do anything right when

it comes to filmmaking? Wow, anything right.

Asking the tough questions when it comes to Double

Dragon. wow well does it get a point in any column

like if you're if you're creating all the aspects

of film does it get a check mark anywhere it

did point the camera indications but i i don't

i don't want to be too technical but i guess

i would describe this as crazy as a motherfucker

um there is a point in time in this game There

is, like, what can only be described as a human

-sized giant scrotum of a man that people fight,

and, uh, yeah, man. It's... wow. Dana's speechless.

Let me help you out here. Matt, you emphasize

the idea that these two individuals are supposed

to be twin brothers. They decided to get Scott

Wolfe from Party of Five and whatever else he's

been in as well as um i don't have the name of

the uh of his twin in this but he he he's like

legit like he played like a yakuza member in

like y5o like a couple years ago whoa whoa whoa

he's the chairman from iron chef america like

oh is he yeah mark de cascas is the chairman

of Iron Chef, and that's what he's gonna be most

famous for. Gotcha, okay, okay. I think he was

in a movie about Capoeira, which is also some

weird fighting shit. But either way, these guys

are clearly not twins. No, or related. Or anything,

yes. There's nothing to end in. What on earth

is the casting director doing when they cast

Scott Wolfe in this role? And then you also have

Robert Patrick as the main bad guy who... I guess

wasn't supposed to be Asian, but he did take

an Asian name later on. That makes you cooler.

People are going to want to party with you then.

And we also have Alyssa Milano as, I guess, a

street, I don't know, it's not really a street

thug because she's like, citizen's arrest and

whatnot, like street police. She's a vigilante.

Vigilante, yeah. Matt, what did you think about

the casting and who they're choosing and how

these guys are clearly not twins? Um, I don't

know quite who decided that. Like, it's weird,

especially because they were so much younger

that their four -year age difference was a little

more apparent than it probably is now in their

50s. I don't know. Is this a plague of video

game films? I mean, they couldn't get two guys

that look like brothers from Mario Brothers.

They couldn't get two guys that were even the

same ethnicity to play brothers in Double Dragon.

But like, Double Dragon, I don't think, offers

an explanation. At least in Mario Brothers, the

movie's explanation is that Mario found and raised

Luigi, if I remember correctly. They're not brothers

so much as Mario is more Luigi's dad, but they

call each other brothers. I think he's like,

uncle maybe? I don't know. Or just a dude that

stole him maybe? Mario, Luigi says something

like, I don't have parents, Mario raised me.

Like, I don't know quite what's going on there,

but at least there's an explanation. Amanda,

what do you think about the setting that they

use and kind of this futuristic, apocalyptic,

whatever you want to call it, they have New Angeles

amongst a bunch of others, towns and different

things like that. We have this time traveling

that we seem to have done at the beginning to

get to where we're at and that is apparently

taking place in 2007. What did you think of the

whole setting for this film? I thought it was

pretty funny. I think that even all the cameos,

like the news anchors were Vanna White and George

Hamilton and then like the weather guy was Andy

Dick and they literally called themselves by

their real names. I'm like, well at least they

survived and they're still on TV. That's probably

the... you know, the highlight of the career

at this point. But I think that the whole feel

of the post -apocalyptic thing, I thought it

was cool that it was, the destruction of it was

our own. Like all the small pollution, like we

did this and they know that we did this and it's

super apparent throughout. And I think that it

had the real like escape from LA vibe. and I

was just waiting for Snape with skin to pop out

somewhere. I thought it was a nice 90's look.

I dig it. Alright, we've talked about villains'

motivations before, Dan, when we've been covering

different things and sometimes that's a terrible

part of the film. In this one... He literally

says that apparently all he wants to do, all

this guy wants to do is get these two halves

of the double dragon amulet or pendant or whatever

you want to call it, because he just wants complete

control over just one American city. Is that

the best motivation you've ever seen from a villain?

I mean, it's probably more so than like Slytherin,

Batman, or Superman, but not to bring that up.

Hey, you know what? You can't blame him, you

know? Just one city. Like, he's not greedy. He's

not asking for it all. Just one city that's kind

of a post -apocalyptic mess. Are we certain that

there are any other cities? They list a bunch

of them. There's like New Angeles and New Tokyo

and a bunch of new things. They're all new. They're

new, but not because they've all been destroyed,

so I don't know. It's kind of weird. Matt did

they go over the line did they did they go too

cheesy with this with some of the stuff because

we have In one situation we have somebody tripping

on gumballs and falling into a stroller We have

one guy that gets his what is it his ponytail?

Closed in a briefcase and then is later on like

scenes later scene Holding the briefcase up to

his head because he still can't get it off apparently

We have like Dan said the double dragon arcade

came showing up in blatant fashion tag team underground

karate did it did it go too far to the the humorous

attempts in this, or what did you think about

the humor in this? I'd say that the humor is

probably one of the best parts of this movie,

and that to remove it would make... Oh yeah,

we also have the good old map trick, where you

throw a map out of your car, and it just blinds

the car behind you. Oh, love it. Like, I don't

know, these are the elements that make this movie

more watchable. If they took all these out and

then just made it just a boring, dry, kung -fu

movie with no kung -fu in it... Like, it would

just fall flat. Like, there'd be no reason to

watch it and I'd just be miserable. At least

with what it had. I mean, some things I wouldn't

like, like the force -feeding the Bobo spinach

and fart jokes and stuff, don't need that. But,

like, knocking a gumball machine over and tripping

a Yakuza member, like, hilarious. Go for it.

I mean, it's - There's a lot of - actual parallels

between this and Super Mario Brothers. If you

took Toad in place of the Abobo character, and

you still have the two brothers, and I don't

know, there's a lot of ties to these two. Ameda,

I know you were a fan of the music in this one.

I don't remember which 90s song was featured

the most, but I know you started jamming out

during that. There were several that I could

jam to. I have a soft spot to 90s dance music.

And I think like 100 % Pure Love or something

was playing in this. I can't remember. I wrote

it down somewhere, but I'm not seeing it. But

I think that... Okay. Speaking of cheese, apparently

a can of easy cheese is the equivalent to a can

of NOS in the vehicles here, because that worked

like a charm. Well, it destroyed their engine,

though. They have a pretty super cool fuel system,

though. They can burn about everything, even

the shirts off their own back to keep driving.

I think that's something we need now, you know

what I mean? I think people will think twice.

about using a little fuel if they have to burn

their own shirts to get to work. I think that

the cheese and the humor and all the cool 90s

aspects and their sweet outfits definitely made

it more watchable than Mario, I would say. Maybe

just a touch, a scotch better than Mario. And

I think that it was... laughable and silly but

it's what got me through the movie and especially

seeing it like more than once I don't know why

I even tried to watch it the first time but seeing

it this time I remembered a lot of it after viewing

it again and like who doesn't think butthead

is like the ultimate derogatory slur I mean who

faced butthead I don't know what they were saying

oh man Dan getting into the writing is the last

thing I have on my notes here We had token lawyer

jokes. We had the reporters pleading for the

gangs. Maybe they're just misunderstood. The

gangs have rights, too. But the gangs are, like,

straight out of The Warriors. Yeah. And my favorite

part, or maybe least favorite part, they have

the classic Who's the Boss line. Yeah, I was

going to bring that up. Like, that was amazing.

You know, ask, well, someone all knew. Who's

the boss now? That was a pinnacle. So bad. As

all. Is the writing the worst part of this, Dan?

Oh, the worst part? That's a good question. I

would say... It's up there. It's one of the top

three. It's certainly in the top three. Just

some of the ridiculousness of it. I almost feel

bad for Robert Englund because he tries to sell

it as much as he can. I mean... But what is his

power? Like, is he Peter Pan's shadow? Robert

Patrick? I'm sorry, Robert Patrick. I say Robert

Englund. Yeah, yeah. Englund, yeah. But yeah,

he turns into like this gray, like, uh, Gumby,

er, not Gumby, like the cardboard cutout. He's

like this embossed, like, look, dude. He's basically...

But that was a better effect than some of the

other things. Like, the effect on that, um, I

forget the name of the girlfriend or the sister

or the person that cared for them, her face when

it comes up at the end after they've transformed

with little stars. I thought it was super cool

though when he leaves her body that one time

and then that you see the shadow for the first

time every once in a while they could do a visual

effect piano like I thought it was cool how they

actually in her like Yeah, but then at other

times it was like they literally, it was something

I could have done on like my IBM back in the

day and put like a stamp of something and then

put stars around it and all of a sudden it was

in a movie. I don't, the visual effects were

all over the place and speaking of effects, I

guess the only trivia I had for this one was

in the scene where they're on the river or whatever

it was, where they set off all those - River

is flammable. Yeah, that's flammable. Apparently

though, that river in real life has caught fire.

three different times I guess because of the

amount of pollution that's in that river. I don't

know if that's a I don't know if my sources are

reliable or not but I read that somewhere and

then I also read that that explosion that they

did had so much there was I don't know how many

gallons of gasoline or alcohol or whatever they

used but the explosion I guess they didn't let

anybody in the neighboring Area know what they

were doing or nobody knew that there was a movie

being shot or something because I guess when

that happened Like there was over a hundred nine

-one -one calls nice around the area because

people were concerned But they probably filmed

it and used some of those police footages for

the movie Exactly. We'll go around and give everybody

a chance to have any other final thoughts or

things they did not get to get off of their notes

about Double Dragon as well as a score out of

10 for Double Dragon and obviously this is only

the second film we've done so I guess it's pretty

hard not to compare it directly to Super Mario's

and say that at this point if it's better or

worse. Matt, we'll start with you. Any other

this one? This movie is a side -scroller beat

- or the game is a side -scroller beat -em -up.

The movie should have just been that one single

take shot from Oldboy where the guy walks from

one end of the hall to the other end of the hall

beating people up. It should have just been that

four times in a row with a Bobo at the end credits.

Like we've shot a movie that was Double Dragon.

Why don't we just shoot that movie and call it

Double Dragon? That's my only thing. Five out

of ten. It had its funny moments and I wasn't

too upset with it. Five out of ten. That's a

generous score, possibly. Isn't that like high

failing? Because it's like school grade. I think

it's like right at that borderline. I guess it

depends on how you kind of view the whole ten

point scale. I guess for me, five is in that

middle ground. It's not bad, it's not good. It's

like right in the middle. It's somewhere between

four and five then. Okay, Dan, what about you?

Any other final thoughts on what grade would

you give Double Dragon? Is it better or worse

than Super Mario Brothers? I would say it's worse.

I think I felt Super Mario Brothers was probably

more competently made. There were just things

in this that were insane for many different reasons

than just, I don't know. It felt like, in a way

though, almost like a... like a paul verhoeven

movie especially with like that uh mana mentioned

with like vanna white and scott hamilton doing

the news and andy dick showing up for no apparent

reason like he felt like it was straight out

of like a robocop and how they would have those

different scenes but not nearly as good and it

is straight it's a strange film like there's

just things that go on that you know it's like

the warriors is a good example it's like if you

took the warriors and added the tone of the three

ninjas movies from the 90s and that's what you

made movie that's kind of this I just think it's

so just think questionable decisions it's so

super cheesy at times overly cheesy a lot of

special effects I think even for the time we're

not really fantastic and well I think even like

sometimes like the the extras and they're acting

it's just so bad So there you know, there's a

scene where they're trying to like break into

this like they're like in a house next to the

river And they're like trying to bang on the

door. I'm like no one's even really even trying

Really putting any effort in it's like why even

it's like punches, but don't push it hard because

it might actually break. Yeah so uh i don't know

i i agree that i would i would i do i would not

want to watch this movie if it wasn't at least

somewhat humorous and it kept that cheese though

it'd probably be unbearable if this was like

a dark and gritty fraction of double dragon that

would be awful we don't forget tom arnold and

madonna married and divorcing oh i forgot about

that part yeah madonna married and they really

knew what was happening in the future they got

all those things right there's there's so many

why couldn't they for Charlie Sheen getting AIDS.

Pretty sure that should have been on there. Dang.

Man. Too soon? No, not. And then you would have

like, it was like a random sequence where you're,

you know, you have this river where people are,

like, some reason on a tour of the, of like,

all the dead bodies that are now in the river.

Like, some like... Take a tour in this post -apocalyptic

rundown city. Yeah, that's somehow... In this

river that's flammable. Yeah, that like... At

night is like this post -apocalyptic world but

during the day it's looking out fine, normal,

good to go. Oh man, yeah we didn't even talk

about the police that apparently give up at night

and let the gangs rule the world and then the

whole struggle to take the night back. Yeah.

That was a good subplot there that we had to

do. I think that's like a dance song somewhere.

Some of the sets here are... Look like a lot

of fun to be on I guess, you know, the fashion

is phenomenal. Of course, you know Kind of looks

like the rejected dancers from in living color

Her acting and her fighting was terrible. Oh

my god. It was just yeah Yeah, her job was to

be pretty though. Like they made that very clear.

Oh, they did especially that one scene. I'm like

there Wow, yeah But I would say it's worse. I

think it's I'm glad I watched this in chunks

and I can imagine sitting down and watching this

all at once, so I would give this probably like

a 2 out of 10 honestly. I was not a big fan.

Okay, Amanda, we have a 2 out there and a 4 slash

5 somewhere in there for Matt. What do you give

Double Dragon on anything else you didn't get

to talk about from your notes? I actually dug

some of the sweet 90s visuals. I think that it

is... Brings you back to like some kind of nostalgia

place even if you don't have any love for the

video game You can still go back to that time

period and kind of appreciate all the crazy and

living color stuff that you see They had a sweet

ass money system like they hit the little voice

Activated and the check thing popped out look

like one of those little punch cards you take

tests on and stuff the film little bubbles That

was pretty legit, and they're cool a oxygen booth

so instead of foam booths. We have oxygen booths

I'm like, you know, that could be pretty handy

in that area. Even now, today, I think people

would use that. If you need that though, how

are you walking around? It's not like they're

physically incapable of breathing, but the air

is so bad that they put a quarter in this thing

and get some oxygen. We get to a point in the

future like that. The thing that bothered me

about things like that, little elements like

that, is that you see these guys doing heavy

physical activity and never once going to an

oxygen booth. Then you see like a businessman

is like I can't make my morning walk It's a weird

inconsistency that I've totally forgotten about

I thought it was funny. I would say I give it

a Three and a half four just because it was funny.

I liked I enjoyed it I don't I mean if my kids

are like, you know if I had some some 11 12 year

old over at my house. I'm like, hey Stop bugging

me watch this double dragon What did they do

for the punishment? Oh Man, I would not wish

that on anybody. Okay, so you and Matt are slightly

above Super Mario Brothers in the sport you gave

on it What did you give Super Mario Brothers?

I can't remember Amanda. I think I gave it like

a three. Okay Dan you're a little bit lower on

this one than Super Mario Brothers. I'm actually

gonna give it the exact same score I'm gonna

sit on a three for both of them for a while I

was thinking I was gonna give this one not just

a slight like half point above Super Mario Brothers

But it's just I feel like it's almost the same

movie. I mean I get that they're different characters

in a little bit of a different setting and whatnot,

but they seem to have all of the same types of

issues. This one is a little bit more cheesy,

a little bit worse in the writing maybe, definitely

worse in the acting, but I feel like it maybe

was a tiny bit better representation of the game,

and that's... Still saying it's awful. So I'm

gonna three out of ten for both of these I Paul

Dini was one of the writers on this and he's

an actually decent writer who's done a ton of

Excellent stuff, especially in the cartoon world.

I don't know what he was doing with this. Maybe

he was only co -writer So maybe the other guy

wrote most of this. I'm gonna give him a pass,

but This is not a good we're not off to a good

start Super Mario Brothers and Double Dragon

are both movies that I would never wish on anybody

to watch so Alright, you're going to have to

let us know what you think on our takes on Double

Dragon by commenting on the website. But before

we get to that, we do have to talk about what's

coming out. So we got some blu -ray releases

as well as some theater releases to real quickly

go over. Biggest blu -ray releases coming out

this next week are The Revenant from last year.

We have Norm of the North. We have Misconduct,

which is a must -be -straight -to video. The

Lady in the Van. IP Man 3. Ip Man. Ip Man 3.

And then as far as theater releases, we have,

of course, The Jungle Book, Barbershop, The Next

Cut, Criminal, and Green Room. And some limited

video -on -demand releases. Rio, I Love You,

Sing Street, Colonia, and the Adderall Diaries.

Dan, which one out of all that strikes your fancy

the most? Man, there's a list. I didn't even

go over some of the collections that are out

there for DVDs. I think I'd probably, I actually,

I do enjoy the first, man, I still haven't seen

the second one, but I probably would want to

go with the Jungle Book, seeing it in theaters.

I will echo that. I can't wait. I don't know

why, but I'm some, for some reason more excited

than I thought I would be even about that one.

So I'm also going to say Jungle Book. Amanda,

what do you got? Even though I think Barbershop,

the next cut, is going to be on Fluke, I would

probably see Jungle Book instead. Oh, man. Matt,

I know you're not as excited about Jungle Book.

Anything on that list that does excite you? Nope.

I'm going to say the same thing Dan said, where

it's like, I've seen the first of Man, it was

good. Man 3 is probably decent, but Jungle Book

is probably the most interesting. All right.

So we'll have to see how it all turns out. As

far as some site feedback, I wanted to get into

that. We sometimes don't have time to get into

that, but I wanted to go back to our actual Super

Mario Brothers episode and give at least some

shoutouts to the people that were commenting

on that and give you guys a chance to kind of

react. Brian Jackson, he had the following to

say, I am of the opinion there are some good

video game movies, just none that have 100 %

successfully translated the game into movie.

form. Doom is a good example in my opinion. It's

like an updated Aliens with a slight mix of the

game. I think if it got a sequel it would have

been even better and more like the Doom we know

and love. Tron and Wreck -It Ralph are probably

the best video game movies just because no one

has to compare them to anything so they can take

video game concepts and do whatever with them.

I guess that's why we're kind of eliminating

anything that's not directly based on a video

game and not including stuff like Tron and Wreck

-It Ralph. Yeah, I mean I mean decent comments

I haven't seen doom so I'm gonna have to wait

and see on that one to see If that fits what

he's saying, but I'm so far. Yeah 100 % successfully

translating the game into movie has not happened

I Would argue that Mortal Kombat is like 99 %

Well, we'll have to wait and see when we get

there. From SuperFilmFan98, it was great to hear

Matt on again. So, Matt, there you go. Hey, he's

my favorite one. Take that! Ah, shoot, I had

it. Fred Savage, you're number two now. I don't

even know if you still listen, but you were number

one for a year. He also says I learned a great

amount about Mario, something I was not expecting.

Hilarious episode overall, everyone. I can't

wait for more of this series. Thanks for the

kind comments there and hopefully we do the same

with this episode. Hopefully you like it just

as much. We also had Brad Lincoln. I'm with you

there, as far as the knowledge about the Mario

games. No idea those games had actual stories,

so you're enlightening more than one person,

Matt. And then, Haley Bailey, you guys are brave

souls if you are going through all the video

game movies made. My god, there are a lot of

bad ones. Really enjoyed this episode, though,

and can't wait for you all to take on Double

Dragon, which we just did. If you think this

movie is bad, talking about Super Mario Bros.,

you haven't seen anything yet. So apparently

she's with you, Dan, that Double Dragon is even

worse. Are we brave souls, or? Is there something

wrong with our heads, Dan? I think we are pioneers,

no. Also, Brad Lincoln, again, am I the only

one that didn't know there was a Double Dragon

movie? No, and I'm sorry that we let you know

that there was one. So you probably would have

been better off still thinking that there was

not a Double Dragon movie. Question for next

week for all those guys and whoever else is listening

that we haven't heard from. Number one, are you

looking forward to more Avatar films? I want

to know if we're in the minority that's not necessarily

excited about that or maybe there's a lot of

people out there that are just brimming and waiting

for that. And how would you rate Double Dragon?

Do you guys think it was better or worse than

Super Mario Brothers, the only two films that

we've talked about up to this point? All right,

anything that you guys didn't get to talk about

as far as video game films, Double Dragon, anything

you guys watched this week that you really wanted

to give a quick shout out and either recommend

or not recommend, Dan? I did watch the sequel

to Hunger Games 2. I was like the last one left

to see that movie, and I would say don't watch

it because... Thank you. I did not think that

was good at all. We saw The Boss. We did see

The Boss, and Amanda, would you recommend that

or not? I would totally recommend it. Nobody's

surprised at that. I lost my shit a couple times

in this movie. She was laughing before the movie

even began. No, that's not true. Like opening

sequence, she's already dying. We were like,

there's like three other couples, but they were

like older people, and I just didn't even care.

Like, I didn't not keep my composure at all.

I was dying. I was fucking cracking up, popcorn

falling out of my mouth, pop coming out of my

nose. I don't even know. I was just laughing.

It was over the top and completely outrageous

in some spots, but I really dig her brash like

hard truth humor and her little jabs that everybody

are so witty and amazing and I just want to be

on a show called make that girl cry with her

and could crush it and I think I'm pretty sure

that They made this movie like based on my mom.

My mom is like a bigger lady She's got red hair.

Her name is Michelle and her favorite line when

I was growing up was because I'm the boss I'm

the boss. That's why so I just want my mom to

see this movie so we can laugh about it together

But some of the see you next Tuesday jokes and

all that I know that I was listening to true

bromance today And they were kind of complaining

about her fall down or getting hurt humor thing

that kind of Juts back to like Farley, but I

think that she definitely did take Chris Farley's

place in that realm and I think that she's just

kind of giving people what they want to see right

now and we always kind of tend to want the the

schlumpy lady to fall down the stairs and shatter

her pelvis and whatever she says. I think that

there is definitely a lot of moments where I

was LOLing for real, which doesn't always happen

in comedies. When I laugh, I geek out. We've

heard that earlier. You cannot. But if it's not

funny to me, I'm not going to give anything from

it. And I think that in comedies, I'm not easily...

one to laugh, believe it or not. And this definitely

got some laugh out loud moments for me. I enjoyed

it. What would you give it out of 10? Oh, I don't

know. I'm going to give it a seven and a half.

It was solid. I'm not saying it's the best of

the year or anything, but I really enjoyed it.

I had fun. This is one of my least anticipated

films of the year based on the trailer. I thought

it looked, and I'm not a Melissa McCarthy hater.

I did like Spy. I thought the trailer looked

awful. I was not looking forward to this film.

I will say it was better than I expected, and

I would give this one a four out of 10. So I

was expecting to be like in the one two range

and I'll go I'll boost it up to a four So that

would be my take on that Matt anything you saw

TV wise movie wise that you wanted to give a

either recommend or not I'm not really watching

a whole lot me and my buddies me and my Gundam

buddies as I've mentioned in previous podcast

are watching the blu -ray releases of the Zeta

Gundam series probably arguably the best Gundam

series of all time So I would always recommend

that But that's it Alright, and the only other

thing that I think we watched here was a rewatch

of the Huntsman film because I had no recollection

of what was actually going on in that film just

to, I guess, be ready for the next Huntsman film.

So I don't know, I'd probably sit at like a 5

out of 10 on that one because I think there's

some problems there that I think there's gonna

be more problems after we see the next one with

some continuity things and whatnot but we'll

have to wait and see how that works. Alright,

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