Academy Awards Reactions and Recent Movie Reviews

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Today on Episode 84 of The Cinema Geeks, we give

you our thoughts on the new Ghostbusters trailer,

we let you know the best place to buy your Force

Awakens copy, and we give you our reactions to

the Academy Awards. All that and more coming

up on Episode 84 with The Cinema Geeks. That's

right, it's episode 84 of The Cinema Geeks. I

am one of your Cinema Geeks, Kevin Optimus Solo,

joining me as usual as movie rebel Dan. Hello.

Hey, how's it going? Not too bad. And hard candy,

Mandy. Hello. What's up? Not too much. And we

are back at it with another episode here. Last

week we gave you our March preview and per request,

I don't know if you guys saw this, but on the

website for the last episode, someone even asked,

will we be covering the Oscars? So that is the

theme for today. So our main attraction will

be our reactions to the Academy Awards. But in

the meantime, we will talk a little bit about

some news and then we'll close it out with talking

about some movies that we've been watching over

the last week or so. Before we get to all that,

Amanda, how's your week been going? Same old,

same old, I guess. You know, living the dream.

Living the dream doing some arcade gaming. Oh

my gosh. I was crushing it. I killed Kevin so

hardcore and never happens in anything Yeah,

I like wrecked him at air hockey like everything

I was just crushing it. I think the only thing

that he beat me at was like the NBA game We're

like just shooting the basketball and his score

was 55 and mine was 51. So And then as far as

my week goes somehow randomly taught our baby

kitten how to play fetch my furry baby yeah so

that was interesting and uh he does it a lot

but it's just with one toy just with one toy

and just with me but he will play fetch like

a dog now so uh i guess i got that going for

me it was funny though too because i was just

like We should try to teach him how to play fetch.

He just started doing it. He just started doing

it on his own. So I was like, well, I didn't

really do much in teaching and then call his

name once he had it in his mouth and he ran over

every time. So that's how my week's been going

outside of the mundane work stuff. So Dan, how

about you? How's your week been going? Ironically,

I taught my son how to play fetch. No, it's been

pretty uneventful for me here. So nothing too

big, nothing really much going on. Looking forward

to this weekend though because I'm taking this

on to get his photo with the Easter Bunny so

I'm hoping we don't freak him out too much because

the Easter Bunny is one weird looking dude. Especially

some of those costumes for the Easter Bunny.

There's some really scary ones, this giant bunny

that doesn't blink. It'll either be afraid of

rabbits the rest of his life or as long as it's

not a clown I think you're safe. I got pushed

off a bench by the Easter Bunny when I was little.

Like, he literally, like, G'd me. Were you talking

smack to him? No, I was just sitting there and

he kept scooting closer and closer to me until

he, like, scooted me off the bench. But Easter

Bunny wasn't just a guy in a bunny suit. There

wasn't an actual set up for you in bunny photos.

It was a park bench and some guy just in a costume

trying to... No, I was in the Colonial Village

mall to see the freaking Easter Bunny and apparently

he's coming back from his break or something

and he just... I mean, we live in Rockford. It's

pretty hood anyway. So this bunny just went straight

G and was like, fuck this little kid. I don't

know. Alrighty then. Oh man, so looking forward

to bad Easter bunny coming to the theater. Just

make sure you avoid the break time. You gotta

have him only when he's in character. I wasn't

fucking with him. I just looked terrified. I'm

sure he's like, I'm gonna fuck with this kid.

Scard is a kid for life. Alright, so starting

off with some new stories today. An article this

week about the next chapter in the Big Hero 6

world. And for once, guys, we're not talking

about a sequel. Or a reboot. We're actually talking

about the next chapter in the Big Hero 6 franchise

will be a television series. So go in the route

of a TV series. Dan, is that better than giving

us another sequel reboot slash whatever of every

other animated movie? I don't know. I kind of

feel like Big Hero 6 is one that could... sustain

a sequel, but I see what they're doing here,

because I do feel like that was the norm a lot

of times when it came to Disney movies. I remember

Aladdin had a TV series, Lion King, so I don't

know if they're trying to go back to that. And

it does have a format that does seem like it

maybe would be best for TV, with its, like, you

know, its superhero team that it has, but I don't

know. Considering how much money that movie made,

I'm... Don't know that necessarily if this means

we won't get a sequel because you know, they

had the how to tune your dragon series as well

We got a sequel to that. So it's just I think

you know Disney milking it for the most as they

possibly can Yeah, I can see that and I think

There's been some series that are kind of come

into their their clothes on a couple of the different

channels out there this year some long -running

ones So I think there is some openings for something

new. So does it make me wonder why they never

made like a wreck at Rouse? TV series, because

I feel like that would even be better. Yeah,

that would be... I'm behind that. Let's get the

news on that, because I'd like to see a bunch

of different worlds they go into. All the different

arcade machines. It could be like a different

one. You just got super freaking excited. I know,

I didn't. That was like my mind blown. He was

like, like, bit -pumping and stuff over here.

Yes. Alright. Amanda, what about you? Would you

rather see a Big Hero 6 2 movie or the series?

Uh, I think you could... Or you could care less

of either one? I really liked it. I saw it in

the theater without you, P .S. I think that it

could have gone either way. I think it would

have done good as a sequel. It's not going to

be a reboot. It's only been like a year or so.

Oh yeah, I haven't seen the sequel. I'm just

saying. Sequel, I think it could have done well.

But maybe like Dan said, they want to milk it

a little bit and give it a TV series. I think

it'll do good as a TV series because it's a super

team and they can have all these other different

villains they're kind of coming up against all

the time. I think it'd go either way, really.

But again, probably not as good as the Wreck

-It Ralph series. I'm sticking with that. That's

my answer. In other news, in case anyone was

counting down the days until they can watch The

Force Awakens on Blu -ray, even though it's probably

still in theater at a lot of places, but apparently

it's already coming out very soon. It's slotted

or... been rumored that it's going to be somewhere

around the first or second week of April that

the blu -ray is actually going to be released

for Star Wars The Force Awakens and if anybody

is trying to figure out where they should go

or who's going to have the best deal article

this week telling you that apparently Target

is the place to go. It's going to have collectible

packaging, it's going to have 20 minutes of special

features only available on the Target copy, including

interviews with Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, and

a deeper look, quote, at the movie's weaponry.

So not that anybody really probably needs to

react too much to that, but damn, you're surprised

it's coming out on video that soon. I'm not too

surprised because I feel like that's becoming

the norm more and more. I'm just really hating

this thing they're doing now with the exclusives

per each store gets like their own exclusive

or anything. It's really annoying. So I think

it really hurts people who want to collect this

stuff because you're always getting like half

of a Blu -ray or half of a collector's edition

because each store... Right, you have to get

them all to get everything together. Exactly,

so it's... I don't know. I feel like it's a cheap

trick that they're doing, and a reason why I

feel like packaged media might be dying, because

people are like, well, I'll just get the digital

copy, because why bother getting something if

I'm just going to get half of it anyway? Yeah,

I'd prefer if there was just like one... Awesome

copy. You know what I mean? Like one ultimate

copy. That's all I need in my collection. Give

me everything that's included all in one. It's

almost better sometimes waiting until there's

some type of like anniversary. Yeah, I mean I'm

probably just wait till they have a trilogy and

like have a super duper like, you know, BB -8.

It includes all the stuff. It's like a life -size

BB -8 that includes all the blu -rays or something

like that. And lightsabers. Kevin has a sweet

Ninja Turtles box set, but it's like they're...

and it rolls on wheels and everything. It's legit.

Yeah. That's why I wait. I wait until it's gonna

be something awesome and then I don't have to

waste my money getting all the half... past installments.

Alright, so that was your news for Star Wars,

so apparently if you're a die -hard person that

wants to guess whatever is going to be the best

copy, I guess it's going to be a target, but

like Dan said, there's probably going to be various

copies everywhere, so it's hard to say. Or as

some other news goes, I know we talked about

John Wick 2 being pushed to 2017. In case anyone

is clamoring those... for a little bit more John

Wiccan news. Keanu Reeves has had a couple statements

here in relation to the film and kind of where

it's going and I guess the the headline there

as far as what he was saying is he said quote

if the first one was a black belt then this one

is third degree black belt so apparently it's

gonna up the ante so to speak and As far as what

they say, as far as the content of it, his biggest

interest was opening up the world, the underground

world, you know, behind the world in terms of

the assassins and kind of how that whole universe

works. And I think that was one of the most appealing

things about the film, regardless of the main

storyline with John Wick and his... motivation

for what he was doing i think a lot of people

found some appeal in the world that it was kind

of creating in that universe and kind of how

it all worked and the rules etc so dan do you

think it's a good direction to go as far as uh

kind of getting more into that underground world

i think the only direction you really can't go

because you can't just like i don't know have

him have another pet that gets killed oh that

would just be bad so but i just how much do you

think you can up the ante i don't know i If they

can take Liam Neeson's kids three times, they

can figure out a way to make John Wick work.

I think that makes sense, because like you said,

I think it was a huge bonus for that movie, because

it did add another element to that that wasn't

just action. It made it seem like this interesting

world that had a lot of cool premise. And how

it just didn't really explain it. It just kind

of brought it to you, and you kind of figured

it out along the way. So I think that'd be a

cool thing to expand upon. I guess I should call

it the correct title now, because it does have

one. John Wick Chapter Two. Are you excited for

Chapter Two? Yeah, what I'm not excited about

is having to wait even longer for it. Not really

looking forward to that part, but third degree

black belt. Not really sure how many fucking

degrees of black belts there are, but I'm pretty

sure that it's going to be another thrill ride.

I just want to see him buff some motherfuckers

up. I just want to see them scare more people

without saying anything to them or anything.

Just the notion. All right, so we'll have to

see when that actually comes out in 2017, but

I think there's a lot of people looking forward

to it. Other films that are on the horizon for

2017, I guess, and 2018, we have official release

dates for the next Alien film, as well as the

Predator film. So, Alien Covenant, August 4th.

2017 so push forward to August 4th 2017 and the

Predator March 2nd 2018 so you can go ahead and

slot those on your calendar and start the uh

why are you dangling the shit in front of me

like don't talk to me about this yet because

i'm just going to sit here and stew that it's

not now and they did add some cast to the Alien

Covenant film which apparently is going to be

starring Michael Fassbender, and there's going

to be some type of crew that is or like colony

ship That's going to arrive in that planet, and

they've added a bunch of people most of them.

I don't know who these characters are so It doesn't

mean a lot to me, but if you're real interested

in the alien covenant film there is some cast

Names that are being dropped there Danny you're

excited to see Michael Fassbender as a as a Android

in the alien universe so is this A continuation

of Prometheus, then? Since you played that character

in Prometheus? Yeah, I think it's basically a

continuation of that. I think what he was saying

is that at some point he wanted to make it a

Prometheus, almost like a trilogy, as far as

that goes, and I guess this would be the next

chapter, but I am confused on that whole time.

I don't know because the end of Prometheus he

was just a head so In science fiction you can

do anything I mean I loved him in Prometheus

and I thought it was a great performance and

a great character so I'm all for seeing more

of that again, but Yeah, I mean I'm just getting

confused over because there's another talk about

another alien movie So it's just the point where

it's like I don't know which one is which but

yeah Yeah, I think that whole universe is being

a little bit hard to understand with all the

different rumors. That's why I guess we just

have to wait until something actually comes out

for us to figure out what anybody is talking

about. But it sounds like a pretty similar concept

to some of the other alien films, so hopefully

it can find a unique execution style or some

ways to twist it up a little bit, which I'm sure

they will based on Prometheus and... We'll have

to see. I know that was a divisive film. A lot

of people liked it, and a lot of people hated

it. So we'll have to see how this next one goes.

I didn't mind it that much. I'm actually looking

forward to rewatching it. We started watching

alien films back a few weeks or a month or so

ago, and we still got the last alien film as

well as Prometheus to catch up with before we

complete that. And I've only seen Prometheus

the one time. Yeah, so why? I was pretty fucking

disturbed, though. So I'm interested to see it

again, especially now with recently watching

all the alien films to see how it kind of plays

out. But Amanda, are you, you're just mad that

they keep dangling stuff as far as into the distant

future and you want it now? Now, now, now. Not...

Instant gratification? Yeah, I'm that person.

I just want the instant oatmeal of movies here,

then I need it now. I think I'm looking more

so forward to... The Predator movie an alien,

but I mean Michael Fassbender Definitely up the

ante for me still so all right, so You only have

a year or two to wait for those things guys so

as far as the last news story just kind of an

interesting tidbit more of a trivia piece I guess

and I Don't know how many people would believe

this but apparently there was actually a connection

between Final destination and the X files and

according to Final Destination writer Jeffrey

Reddick the whole plot and idea for Final Destination

was originally a X -Files episode script that

he was trying to get made into one of the X -Files

episode and instead it didn't work out and it

turned into the actual film kind of spun off

into some different directions and probably changed

quite a bit but uh... Yeah, apparently there

was originally going to be an episode of The

X -Files. It wasn't called Final Destination.

It was going to be called Flight 180, but talking

about premonitions and cheating death and stuff

like that. I really, really enjoyed the first

Final Destination movie. I did too. I haven't

seen it in a long time, but I remember liking

it. And then I remember seeing, like... the second

half of Final Destination 86 or something like

that. It seemed like it had gone off the deep

end, like almost into Sharknado territory at

that point. I've seen three of them, is there

more than that? I don't know, there was like

THE Final Destination, and then there was like

seven more after that, so I don't know. I got

to the point where it legitimately was just,

let's find the most crazy way to kill people

as possible. You didn't really mess me up when

I was younger and saw that, though. Like, that

was pretty freaking disturbing. I'm still scared

of shit like that because of the discard cards.

There's a couple things that it's like, yeah,

a little cringe -worthy as far as seeing that

and then having to think about that every time

you're doing whatever in the same area. Yeah,

that guy that died in the shower, like, strangled

himself with the shower thing. I'm freaked out

every time I go in our guest bathroom. And there's

not even, like, the shower head is kind of, um...

Not the same, but it's got the same kind of idea

and it freaks me out every time I'm like I'm

gonna slip and strangle myself an accident Kevin's

not gonna hear me I'm gonna die I thought that

was somewhat of an interesting tidbit as far

as any X -Files fans or Final Destination fans.

I don't know why that made an article or a headline

or why we're even talking to the writer of Final

Destination, but it was out there so I thought

I'd share. Well, probably because of the resurgence

of X -Files, that's why, brah. Alright, good

point. That could be. That's why. You're right.

Don't count me. Alright. And then finally the

last up... The big news for this week that everybody

has been talking about, Dan, the release of the

Ghostbusters trailer. Fucking A -right. Apparently

Amanda would like to talk first. That's like

the first thing I saw this morning when I got

my sleepy eyes on and I'm... scrolling through

my Facebook feed and I saw that and instantly

I was awake and I had that shit cranked up and

I was watching it and I lost my shit a little

bit. I really, really liked it. I'm super excited

now that I've seen this trailer. I was looking

forward to it but I was still kind of on the

edge of like, are they gonna pull this off? How's

this gonna work? It's got some cool names attached

to it. Love the franchise. But you know, it's

not Bill Murray or whatever. But it's got my

girl. Fucking Tammy's in this shit love that

bitch and I think they did a really really awesome

job at Everything that I've seen so far from

this trailer like the ghosts look pretty fucking

awesome I think that some of the jokes are pretty

funny. It's like this dry humor because they're

scientists it works. I think that The dynamic

of the characters look pretty fucking cool and

fun, and I would just wanted to hang out with

them. I'm just I'm really excited. I think even

the way they kind of like changed the song a

little bit was like the piano, creepy, ominous

version of the Ghostbusters theme was super awesome.

I'm just so important. You're on like level nine

right now. Dan, is she the only one that had

that positive of a reaction to that trailer?

I think it's, I saw a lot of people that really,

really liked it too. So, I don't know, and I

saw the people who hated it and I think I'm,

I'm someplace - He has the whole time I'm looking

at you, bastard. Come on, Joe. I have some strong

feelings. I'm so mad he didn't like it. I'm so

mad. Somewhere in the middle there are things

that I do like. I do think like Amanda mentioned

that visually it looks really great like the

look of the ghost. It looks like an updated version

of the look of the ghost from the original but

not like to the point where it's not too realistic

but realistic enough so it works for a comedy.

I do think the cast seems like they're gonna

have pretty good chemistry working with one another.

I love that cast. I think it's a really strong

cast. They're all really talented and I'm really

big fans of pretty much all of them. I don't

know though, not all the jokes really landed

for me a great deal. I guess I didn't really

know what to expect with it. Something about

it, I can't really put my finger on it, but it

didn't quite work for me. Not all the jokes.

I know if it was it's not that it wasn't it was

too slapsticky, but it just I Wasn't expecting

them to be as big of characters as they seem

to be but again I could just beat the trailer

because to be honest when I look at Paul Fahey

movies when it comes to the trailers like Keats

and spy I didn't like those trailers, but I ended

up liking all the movies more than I Expected

to so maybe that that's the case where the best

jokes Yeah, maybe it's a good thing that not

all the best jokes are in the trailer. Yeah I

thought it was just enough of a teaser. It just

gave you kind of a feel of it. I feel like the

focus... I'm not a huge Ghostbusters fan. I know

that might be sacrilegious, but I wasn't even

a humongous original Ghostbusters fan. I like

it, but I'm never giddy about it, I guess. But

I feel like the intention of that trailer was

not to necessarily be funny, though. I feel like

the intention was to kind of... Show the the

feeling of it the aesthetic of it like connect

to the original Ghostbusters sounds and and some

of the visuals and Just give us a glimpse of

this new cast and kind of how that's going to

play out. So I don't know if I'm going to judge

it negative or positive based on the jokes that

are in there because I feel like that necessarily

wasn't the intention. Yeah, especially for jokes

for trailer are hard because the way trailers

are edited, the way jokes are made in a trailer

may not actually be the way they're made in the

movie. Right. You see that a lot where it's like

certain scenes are put together that have nothing

to do with one another. So but I thought Melissa

McCarthy feel like she's playing a more toned

down version, she's not playing a huge character,

which I didn't, it seems like Kate McKinnon is

the one who's playing like a crazy character.

But, you know, I'm, I'm still - I thought she

seemed quirky and cool though. Yeah, like not

necessarily in a bad way, but just like she seems

kind of like, I felt like they all have their

niche that should work well. Right. So they should

compliment each other pretty well. Like I said,

I'm not, I'm not. over the moon with it there's

some things I feel like they can build upon there's

a lot of positives to take out of it but it's

not like I am like over the moon super excited

now so and I'm pretty much in your camp too Dan

it was it wasn't anything that was gonna it didn't

wreck the my interest of the film or not it didn't

elevate it necessarily that much but I did like

the musical part though I will agree with Amanda

there I liked the the more subdued paced out

piano classic Ghostbusters theme going with that.

I did enjoy that. Alright, you will have to let

us know how you feel about the Ghostbusters trailer

in the comments on this episode post because

we'd be interested to see other people's takes

and which people are super excited or which people

are on the DJ Valentine boat. I'm not so excited

about that trailer. I still love you though,

DJ. Alright, we're going to take a quick break.

When we come back though, we will give you our

reactions on the Academy Awards, the show, the

host, the winners, and everything that goes into

the Oscars. So we'll be right back after the

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for the main attraction. Like we said, we're

going to be talking about this year's Oscars.

They just happened. We had requests on the website

asking if we were going to talk about the Oscars.

And yes, we are. So that is the time to do that

right now. Dan, let's start with you and first

question for you about the Oscars. Obviously

the big anticipation, maybe even more anticipation

on this than there was on who is going to win

some of the awards. I think there was a lot of

anticipation on what was going to happen. when

Chris Rock took the stage. So how did you feel

Chris Rock did as a host this year? You know,

the hosts of award ceremonies get a lot of discussion,

it seems like, and seems like... A majority of

the time people hate the host or think they did

terrible, even if it's people that they like

and, you know, talented actors or comedians or

etc. A lot of times it falls flat. How did you

think Chris Rock did this year? Well, yeah, I

do feel like what the Oscar host job is one that's

a thankless job because it's impossible to please

everyone because you're as a host. You're playing

to a room of people that take themselves way

too seriously and often aren't willing. they're

like almost refusing to laugh in times and then

you're appealing to a broad audience but then

people get angry if you have broad jokes and

want you to be a little bit more escape but then

when you are escape people are like well you

have to consider those families watching so then

it's this never it's never ending battle but

uh you know i think the oscars in a way a weird

way did ended up depending fitting from the fact

that chris rock was the host and with all the

you know oscar show white talk the whole the

political land and racial landscape that was

occurring around it he was probably the best

person they could have got to kind of deal with

it because I can't imagine if you had you know

someone like I don't know who hosted last year

or like a Seth MacFarlane or something like that

where it would probably not be nearly as good

but I thought he was great as an Oscar host I

thought he dealt with the uh the entire issue

as a whole and pretty much hitting every aspect

of it from the people who boycotted to you know

the history of it to where it's coming from to

like trying to not really leave anyone unscathed

in some ways not all the the uh jokes landed

some of the things like some of the bits weren't

nearly as funny like the girl scouts cookies

thing. I thought it just kind of seemed random

and didn't really have a point to it. There were

some jokes that really fell flat, like the accountant

bringing out the young Asian kids as accountants,

which seems to go against everything that they

were talking about earlier. his opening monologue

I thought was fantastic and poignant and funny

and everything it needed to be everything I expected

it to be from Chris Rock and some of the skits

things are actually pretty funny too like the

like the first one they did with like Tracy Morgan

as the Danish girl and that was actually quite

good so overall I thought when it comes to just

the spectacle that was the Oscars it was one

of the better ones in quite a while Yeah, I am

in full agreement with you. I think it started

off definitely with a bang. I think there was

a couple jaw -dropping lines that he had in that

opening monologue that were just hilarious. His

bit on Will Smith was hysterical. Well, his bit

on Cheetah, think of Smith. not even it's like

you boycotted something you didn't even get invited

to but that was funny i think it was at its peak

at the beginning um i do think that bit that

you talked about with the different uh different

people in the best picture uh skits was funny

i think as the skits went on throughout the rest

of the show there was a couple other ones that

maybe didn't like you said, hit as well. But

yeah, I thought there was even a funny line by

him later. I can't remember what exactly they

were talking about where he said even he wasn't

going to touch that. He's not trying to get in

trouble. After everything else, he said an inch

in the opening monologue. I thought that was

pretty hysterical. But yeah, I think it was perfect.

I was trying to picture how nervous the actual

people behind the Academy were when they realized

that they had lined him up as a host. And then.

on top of all the controversy that happened.

If they were like, is there a way we can get

him off of the show? But I thought he was phenomenal.

I think he added a lot to what's sometimes going

to be a rather lame opening. And we didn't have

to worry about the pick on each main actor from

each main movie type thing. We got something

different. So I appreciated that. So I thought

he was awesome. Amanda, what did you think? I

don't think he spared any punches. I think that...

They were all within good taste, too, and like

you said, he didn't discriminate who he threw

under the bus or busted out or whatever, and

I think he was the perfect person to have host

this, you know, the one was surrounding all the

controversy, and he was the one that is... he's

so established now that he can... Basically say

whatever he wants and there's either gonna be

those people who like him or don't he's not gonna

sway people To either like him or to not really

I don't think because he's already got his audience

so he can say whatever he wants and I think that

he used that to his advantage Advantage and I

think that he He I think he was actually pretty

tasteful with it if you ask me I don't think

that there's anything I was like well that really

wasn't cool I think he used some shock value

in there, but that's his That's his MO, and it

worked. I liked it. I also liked the interaction

between him and Kevin Hart, too. I thought that

was pretty funny as well. Anything else as far

as, Dan, the actual broadcast, not talking about

any categories or any awards, but anything outside

of that, whether it be presenters or anything

else that they do throughout the broadcast, as

far as the overall broadcast, how would you rate

it? Well, I think that some other things that

weren't. All that fantastic were the live performances,

the song performances, minus Lady Gaga. They

were all pretty forgettable, especially Sam Smith's

song, which even he came out and said, yeah,

it was pretty awful. I'm like, yeah, that entire

song is pretty bad. Especially compared to last

year when we got that Selma performance. Yeah,

last year we had a lot of good ones in Selma

and Lady Gaga last year with, I forget what she

did, with the sound of music. Oh, yeah. So that

was a really good performance. She was good this

year, too, but the other ones were just... Partially

it's because there weren't really that many great

songs. Most of those songs are from movies I'd

never even heard of so I love The Weeknd's performance.

I love that song though. Maybe I'm just partial

because The Weeknd's my boy like that's my ringtone

like Everything I liked his performance. I like

seeing him live though, so but I think it like

Dan said the only one that really stood out was

the Lady Gaga one as far as like stood out because

of the as far as being more than just somebody

singing a song Probably. Yeah, I don't know.

I thought Louis C .K. was really funny when he

did the presentation for the short documentaries

or whatever, but I don't know. Can't think of

any other ones that really stood out besides

Sasha Barry Cohen Cohen's not really algae thing

working nearly as well as he wanted it to But

when he came out I was like as soon as I was

gonna say booyaka shot. He did it. I'm like bitch

Amanda what did you think about any of the other

stuff as far as presenters or anything else that

happened kind of his little bits outside of Chris

Rock's opening? Yeah, I don't really I think

that the Louis CK one was pretty funny his little

bit But I don't I can't pick any other one out

that really stood out for me But it's been a

little bit. I think the only other thing that

I would say that was somewhat Weird and not necessary

was the minions bit Oh, I forgot all about that.

Oh, the Toy Story one was kind of cute though

because when they like fell and then the people

came up to accept their award, you could see

that they had like the actual toys were like

laying on the table there. Yeah, I can get that

and there was a purpose for that. I don't know

what the purpose of the minions being involved

at all was. To try to get the kids to watch because

of how much they love the Academy Awards, I guess.

I don't know. You had the Star Wars characters.

You had the Toy Story characters. I mean, that's

good enough for me. I don't know how many kids

are watching the Oscars. Yeah. it's yeah it's

a little it's a little strange but Alright, getting

into some of the awards. Let's get into a few

of the technical ones. We'll go over those fairly

quickly, but as far as stuff like, you know,

the editing and the visual effects, makeup and

hair styling, and costume. We'll talk about those

all at the same time, since basically the same

movie won most of those. So, Dan, what was your

thoughts as far as Mad Max running the table

with a lot of those outside of Ex Machina getting

visual effects? We had Mad Max for film editing,

Mad Max for makeup and hair styling, and for

costume design. Did you think of that? deserved

all of those or how did you feel with those categories?

I think it definitely deserved all of them because

I feel like that's one of the best aspects of

that movie. The one that I was most surprised

by was editing because honestly because usually

editing and best picture go hand in hand so you

would think the movie with the best editing would

be the best film but I think that was probably

the most telling of them all because that's an

award that it's hard you know hard to get and

hard for a movie around Mad Max to receive but

it also tells you the amount of respect that

was for that film because yeah, winning the technical

awards would make sense but there is a craftsmanship

to editing so the fact that people are willing

to vote for it in that category was I think a

good indication that people were taking it more

seriously than I thought they would. Yeah, and

if you look at that category, it is, I mean,

four out of the five nominees in Best Editing

were also nominated for Best Picture because

you have Mad Max, The Big Short, The Revenant,

and Spotlight. The only one that wasn't was Star

Wars, which also got a nomination for that. So

it definitely does have somewhat of a connection

to the Best Picture, like you were saying. And

what about the best visual effects? Because I

think everybody at that point assumed that it

was going to be Mad Max again because that came

after all these other ones. And I think anybody

that didn't think If anybody thought that there

was a chance that it wasn't going to be Mad Max,

I think they were thinking it was going to be

Star Wars then. and instead the visual effects

went to Ex Machina. Surprised on that? I was

super surprised by that because Ex Machina is

not necessarily the movie that would win best

special effects because usually the movie that

wins best special effects is the movie that has

the most special effects and I thought it would

go to Mad Max because you know when we talk about

special effects you're not just talking CGI you're

talking about everything practical explosions

that all kind of ties into it and for me, like

that all kind of ties into all the awards, a

lot of the awards that I already won. So I would

figure, oh, well, it makes sense that it would

go to Mad Max. But I think it's completely awesome

that it went to Ex Mach, you know, considering

like, you know, I have like a 15 million dollar

budget and what it was able to do with that.

And I thought it looked gorgeous. So that was

probably minus maybe best picture, the biggest

surprise for me. And I think the only thing for

visual effects that I was kind of and it's completely

biased because obviously I'm a huge Star Wars

fan, but I was hoping that there would be some

type of some type of maybe kudos for them not

going the route like they did with the prequels

and doing all CG and all that type of stuff like

some type of Hey, thanks for going back to some

of the practical effects not saying that they

necessarily did it better than anybody else But

and that was my only thought was with the Star

Wars, but I'm fine with any of those winning

for for visual effects As far as makeup and hair

styling and costume going to Mad Max, Amanda,

did you think that that was worthy or did you

think something like, there wasn't a, first of

all, there was only three nominees for best makeup

and hair styling. I don't know why there would

only be three. And I don't know, Dan, had you

ever heard of the 100 -year -old man who climbed

out the window and disappeared? No. We see a

lot of movies. We hear about a lot of movies.

We listen to a lot of podcasts about movies.

Maybe I just hadn't looked over the nominees

well enough, but when they said that on the broadcast,

I was like, how did they come up with a movie

I've never heard of? But yeah, there's only that

Mad Max and Revenant for makeup and hair styling.

Which I found was a slightly odd but costume

you do have some of the other ones Carol Cinderella

the Danish girl and the revenant Did you think

Mad Max deserve both? I was waiting for you to

let me fucking answer. Give me questions You

know, I get it there was um, I think that there

was some crazy Makeup and hair styling going

on there. Sorry. I keep yawning and I think that

I really did like, like in the Cinderella and

some of those period pieces, I loved the look

of the costumes, but with the amount of creativity

that I would have had to go into that, yeah,

I get it, definitely. Dan, in agreement on those

two being Mad Max, or did you think there was

anybody that stood a chance against them? I thought

it went to that 100 year old movie. The makeup

and hair stylings, like... That award is always

insane. It typically is only three movies for

some reason, because there aren't many movies

that use makeup that much anymore. That's the

category Bad Grandpa was nominated for, and Norbert

has been nominated for, so it's not the most

prestigious. Amanda's dying over here. We have

this You Star video game, and there's a scene

that you can do from Norbert, and me and my cousin

Ray did it, but we did it in like... Jersey accents

almost. I put it up on YouTube. It's amazing.

To me, there's no question regarding those. Production

design also went to Mad Max Fury Road. Getting

into cinematography a little bit. We had The

Revenant with Lebowski, we had Carol, The Hateful

Eight, Mad Max, and Sicario with Roger Deakins.

What was your thoughts on cinematography, Dan?

Well, I would say no matter what you think about

the Revenant I think one thing that's unquestionable

is that a cinematography Cinematography is pretty

phenomenal. I mean, I was kind of hoping Roger

Dickens would win I know he had no chance just

because the guy's been nominated like 14 15 times

So yeah, I was but I thought that was a no -brainer

that wasn't go to the Revenant considering a

I mean, what's his third year in a row that he's

won, which is insane. So But he deserved it,

I think, each time. So he's kind of killing it

right now. Yeah, and I think you can't go wrong

with the way that that was shot. I think the

movie was visually something to take in, for

sure. I don't really have too much bad to say

about The Revenant. I mean, it was in my top

30, I think, for the year. But yeah, it's hard.

You have Lewesky and Deakins. I mean, I think

those are easily the two best cinematographers.

I don't think many people would argue with that.

They're both at the top of the game, so eventually

Deakins will win something, right? I mean Leo

did. That's true. Spoiler alert. Getting into...

I don't think there's any spoilers for the Oscars

here. Getting into the musical part, we talked

about that a little bit. As far as sound editing

and sound mixing, two more awards that went to

Mad Max. At this point, Dan, were you shocked

at all at the number of awards that Mad Max was

taking home? And did at any point it make you

think that it had maybe more of a chance than

people said it did for Best Picture? Somewhat,

I think... With the sound, I thought Revenant

was gonna take it just considering the way the

movie was made. So I was a little surprised because

that's the way I had winning this. I thought

it was gonna win just for Leo's breathing in

the trailer. True. It did have a lot of breathing.

I thought the moment I thought, okay, maybe it

actually does have a chance as one -on -one for

editing, then I'm like, okay. That gives it a

shot, a bigger shot, since it is certainly...

a year that was up in the air, but I was always

hesitant because I felt like this is what was

going to happen because it reminded me of the

year, like, Avatar won, and her locker kind of

went back and forth, where Avatar got all the

technical awards, but her locker ended up winning,

like, a few of the smaller awards, and I felt

like that would end, or fewer awards, but more

of the bigger awards, and I figured that would

happen again here, and that's... kind of what

happened with a little bit of a twist ending.

Yeah, it was interesting because I think you

know obviously most of our community is tweeting

back and forth throughout the entire broadcast

and it seemed like we had the exact same thought

almost at the exact same time where I don't know

if I said it to Amanda or something that about

the same time that you sent out a tweet about

it was it's going to win all of these technical

awards so but not the big ones at the end because

it's going to be able to say well we gave you

all these other awards so it's kind of interesting

to see the thought process as people kind of

thought maybe and then some other people thought

well no this is just uh i do i do feel like they

do that sometimes where there is a movie like

the mad max or avatar or something like that

that is a technical achievement where they purposely

give it a lot of the smaller awards because it's

like okay well we'll give you recognition here

but we're obviously going to go a different direction

when it comes to the higher end awards. Right.

I think it is something that they do, unfortunately.

I don't know if it's necessarily the best way

to go about things, but they do have their certain

films that they seem like sometimes afraid to

give the best picture to. So as far as the other

musical ones, we had the original score, best

original score and best original song. Talking

about song first, since we've already kind of

mentioned it, obviously we had earned it. from

Fifty Shades of Grey. I wish I could sing, because

that would totally bust out in song. The fact

that Fifty Shades of Grey is even... Anyway.

Writings on the Wall from Spectre, we had Manta

Ray from Racing Extinction, Simple Song No. 3

from Youth, and Till It Happens to You from The

Hunting Ground. First Dan, did you see any of

these films? I have not So for did you have you

see inspector? I still have not seen it now.

Oh man. Yeah, okay I think that's the only one

on the list you need to see Well, I'm looking

for to eventually see youth but obviously the

winner here was Sam Smith with writing on the

wall giving him yet another chance to to champion

his cause which I believe he said the same speech

every time he's ever won anything but That was

a shock, was it not, Dan? Yeah, I think so, because

it's not a good song. And it wasn't a good performance

either. No. I don't know. I felt like it's one

of those things where people saw there was a

bong song nominated, so they just voted for it.

And I still have a problem with that whole category,

because as much as I diss on the Furious franchise,

I still think that song... I don't understand

how that song didn't get at least a nomination.

It was a pretty, not just popular song, but I

mean, I don't know. I don't know why it doesn't

belong at least in the company. It's not like

we had five ridiculously awesome songs get nominated.

So I thought the Wiz Khalifa and whoever that

other dude is, Charlie Puth. I thought that song

could have at least been nominated. So that would

have been my vote. Amanda, are you fine with

Sam Smith winning or do you think Lady Gaga or

somebody else should have won? I think The Weeknd

should have earned it. His performance was shit.

Like you said, when he accepted the award, of

course he's pushing his cause again. We get it,

bro. You're gay. We're cool with it. Can we move

on? Nobody cares, really. It's just another chance

for him to get on his old soapbox and preach.

something that not like we're not on board with

you guys like you know we're all good and I don't

think that um he was deserving of it he himself

said that he didn't want to perform the song

anymore he didn't like the song he didn't think

it was good I mean when it first came out I was

like yes this is okay but it didn't blow me away

Lady Gaga performance was kind of cool like I

didn't really like the song like I mean I feel

for your cause and stuff but yeah I just I really

she just It's like so over dramatic about everything

that I just can't get behind anything she's talking

about. Alright. Strong opinions there. Um, you

were tuned out for half of her performance anyway.

Cause I was like, I don't give a fuck. Alright.

Dan, we had a couple of legendary people going

at it in the best original score. I don't think

anybody ever thought that Thomas Newman, Carter

Burwell, or um, Sicario had a chance. It was

pretty much uh, Morricone against John Williams.

And any surprises as to where that goes, or were

you happy that somehow, even though he had never

won one, he finally got to win? Yeah, if the

Academy didn't vote for him for this, it would

have been a tragedy, because it's like, this

is probably going to be the last time he's ever

nominated it, or even does a score. So they're

kind of a situation where they can write it wrong.

So even if it necessarily wasn't the best score

of the year, I think it's more important that

he ends up walking away with it. Because I personally

am not against the idea of... Career awards at

times if there's no other clear if it's not robbing

someone and I don't necessarily think there's

a score nominated that was so much better than

Heathly which is a score I really liked so I

It made sense to me because it's like this guy's

a legend and he should have he's already won

a lifetime achievement award It's like a time

that he wins an award for a score that you know,

even if it is using familiar sounds and similar

to his past I think it's fine because You know,

like I said, this guy should have won awards

a long time ago. And unfortunately, it was back

then. Western's got really no respect when it

came to the Oscars. So he was overlooked unfairly.

And I don't think... Even if it was a sentimental,

I don't think it is. I think it's still also

deserving. But I'd much rather them go with more

of the sentimental pick here than later on in

the best supporting actor category. So I like

this. And I don't think, you know, I don't think

someone like John Williams is going to feel like

he got robbed of anything. He's only got like

18 Oscars. So he's fine. He likes the guy. They

were sitting next to each other. I think. I don't

know. It was all good. It is kind of funny, though,

because I have people realize that he didn't

win an Oscar for the Star Wars. Score that's

the same year that he was nominated for Close

encounters, which actually might be a better

score Yeah, so but yeah, he's nominated so many

times over the course of his life that he's even

beat himself But yeah, I think most people were

happy with that and I thought he gave a good

little speech there too through the translator

so yeah as far as getting into The best animated

short film, best live action short film. Dan,

had you seen any of those or did you know about

any of the nominees in that? I know these are

categories that a lot of times most of the audience

don't know much about. No, the only one I saw

was World of Tomorrow because it's on Netflix,

so I knew nothing. I was guessing like everyone

else. Okay, yeah. So Bear Story, obviously the

best animated short and best live action short,

Stutter. I don't know if you saw best animated

short film. There was a Wikipedia... edit immediately

on the Bear Story page. And I don't know if it

was just somebody that didn't like somebody involved

in that, or if it was a disgruntled loser in

that category, but it immediately put, like,

Bear Story, you know, winner of the best animated

short film, blah, blah, blah, blah, at the Oscars,

and then it said, like, even though this film

is utter crap. It just went on to rip it for,

like, three sentences. I don't know how long

it stayed up on Wikipedia, but there was someone

that took a screenshot immediately, and I thought

that was kind of comical. How dare you win Best

Animated Short Film? Oh, that's gonna ruin the...

Man, that's insane. Because ask anyone to name

another movie that's won Best Animated Short

Film like from last year. No one's gonna do it,

but this guy had to take it down a peg. And I

think a lot of people are the same way with the

best documentary short. All the different shorts

I don't think are known by... great deal of the

audience, but I know you are familiar a lot of

times with quite a few of the documentaries.

How many of these had you seen, or was it just

Amy? I saw all of them, I seen all of them except

for... the the silence the book of silence which

just came on netflix so hopefully we're seeing

it soon i just kind of seen what happened miss

simone in winter on fire yeah those are both

on netflix as well so i did so i know i know

we'll get into one of the the films that you

saw a little bit later but out of all of those

listed did you agree with amy winning or did

you feel stronger about one of the other nominees

i'm okay with amy winning i think it is a good

film i think i Like, I thought Cartel Land was

better. Though, honestly, the director of Amy

also did Senna, which I thought was actually

much better than Amy. But I think it was still

well done. From what I'm hearing from the look

of silence, it sounds like that's probably the

one that should have won. But I get why Amy won,

which is kind of usually the academy when it

comes to documentaries, it often votes on the

cause, not the movie. So I didn't... I was surprised

with something like, you know, Once You're On

Fire or The Look at Silence or Cartel Land didn't

take it. But sometimes also they tend to go with

movies that's about a celebrity. So that's probably

why Amy won. For sure. I don't think there was

anybody surprised at best foreign language film,

even people that hadn't seen any of them. I think

we're still predicting Son of Saul would win

that just because of the word of mouth and the

buzz that that one had. Any surprise for me there?

No, when in doubt, go with the Holocaust movie.

There we go, son of Saul. That's the Holocaust

pick for this year. Getting into something that

Amanda can talk about here, now that we're through

all the shorts and the documentaries, as far

as best animated feature, obviously we had Anomalisa,

Boy in the World, When Marnie Was There, Shaun

the Sheep, and Inside Out. Were you happy that

Inside Out won? Yeah, I think it was pretty well

deserved. I think that was a great flick, a lot

behind it, a lot of... I don't want to say science,

but psychology and stuff put into it, and I think

that the look of it was awesome. It was a really

original idea, I think. Maybe I'm wrong about

that, but I think it was pretty original. Definitely

not when Marnie was there, that piece of shit

movie. I didn't get that weirdness. not even

cared to see Shaun the Sheep. I tried to talk

you into it the other day, but it didn't work.

I think he just thinks if there's an animated

movie, oh my god, Amanda will watch this. No.

I'm interested in Shaun the Sheep. I want to

see that one. And we haven't seen Anomalisa,

so we can't. I think that was the strongest competitor.

I think most people thought it was Inside Out

or Anomalisa. We haven't seen that one, to be

fair. Dan, a lot of people, especially people

that we kind of stay in communication with in

the different movie podcast circles, had Inside

Out as the number one film of the year. So were

you happy that... that took away this award?

Yeah, but I should be honest, I've only seen

Inside Out out of all the ones that were nominated,

so I really can't say. Gotcha. But I loved Inside

Out. I thought it was great and deserving of

it. So I can't. Right. Alright, as far as original

screenplay and adapted screenplay. Original screenplay

going to Spotlight and adapted screenplay going

to the Big Short. I know you haven't seen the

Big Short yet, Dan, but I believe you've caught

up with most of the other ones in both categories

outside of maybe... I don't know if you've seen

carol or brooklyn yet I guess but any surprises

as far as the dancer screenplay original screenplay

or what were your Reactions to those two or did

you feel like either one of them was given a

hint as to maybe a possible best picture? No,

I figured These ones seem kind of straightforward.

I felt the ones that were gonna win did win I

thought honestly it was gonna spotlight. This

would be the one Academy Award It won for the

night and the same thing with a big short. So

since there are two movies, I think that are

from what I know from watching Spotlight and

from what I hear with the big shorts that are

very dependent upon their writing. So I mean,

yeah, I think they're both deserving. I could

see some people saying maybe Es Machina for best

original screenplay, but I thought Spotlight,

very much its screenplay was a huge reason it

was as successful as it was. So I think it was

deserving of that. And like you said, I have

not seen The Big Short. I've seen all the other

ones except, well, no, I haven't seen Carol either.

But personally, I love The Martian. But like

I said, I can't really speak on it. Right. But

you could speak on the fact that, did you ever

think you'd see the day that Adam McKay had an

Oscar? Not necessarily, no. No. Never watched

Anchorman thought okay, this guy's gonna make

Oscar winning movie about the financial crisis

That's awesome. All right, let's get into the

the main I guess quote -unquote the big seller

the big headline awards for the Oscars for best

supporting actress Amanda we obviously had Jennifer

Jason Lee in the hateful eight Rooney Mara from

Carol which we haven't seen Rachel McAdams spotlight

Kate Winslet Steve Jobs and the winner Alicia

Vikander from the Danish girl slash ex Machina

What did you think about? Best supporting actress

today go to the deserving the right person even

if it might not have been the right movie Not

having seen the Danish girl yet um you know i'm

really not sure so uh i know that lisha vikander

is kind of the powerhouse i mean she's in um

578 movies last year she's gonna be in like 832

this year so i mean she's got to have some kind

of chops to um you know to be recognized and

um I think that The Danish Girl is probably a

pretty powerful movie, too, in itself. To be

fair, yeah, obviously we haven't seen that, so

I shouldn't be dissonant. I was just going more

so on the reaction of the Twitter world when

that happened, because everybody was saying,

we'll just pretend that that was for Ex Machina

instead. What were the other nominees? Jennifer

Jason Lee for Hateful Eight, Rooney Mara from

Carol, Rachel McAdams from Spotlight, and Kate

Winslet from Steve Jobs. I like Jennifer Jason

Lee. I didn't think she had a chance to necessarily

win. I did like that performance a lot. I like

that clip when she's like... I think a lot of

people thought it might go to Rooney Mara. Dan,

what did you think of the supporting actress?

Yeah, I thought there was a shot it could go

to Rooney Mara because sometimes she's almost

like a co -lead less of a supporting role. So

sometimes the supporting actor goes to the person

who's had the biggest part. But I had a wish

of Mike Andrews because he was winning mostly

everything up to that point. Again, you know,

she's I mean, I like I think a lot of people

made the comparison to Jennifer Lawrence for

someone who kind of comes out of nowhere and

becomes Oscar nominated and Oscar Oscar winning

actress. And now she's everywhere. And I could

definitely see that happening with her now, since

I never heard of her until this year. And now

she's an Oscar winning actress. And which is

cool. I mean, she's a great woman. We've seen

she's been fantastic, but it was a very she's

also the only person that's gonna give Michael

Fassbender run for his money as far as number

of movies appearing in 2016 It's and I was surprised

that Rachel McAdams was nominated for spotlight

enough because she wasn't deserving But it's

not necessarily the type of performance that

doesn't get recognized, but it was a really close

race I think with all those it was there was

I don't think a clear favorite even after the

winner was announced Yeah. And Best Supporting

Actor supplied at least some people one of their

bigger shocking moments of the telecast. I think

a lot of people figured Sylvester Stallone was

going to come away with this one for his role

in Creed. But honestly, I really like Tom Hardy

in The Revenant. I really like Mark Ruffalo a

ton in Spotlight. Not huge on Christian Bale

in the big short. I mean, I think he was good,

but I don't think he necessarily compared to

what some of these other people were. providing,

and the winner obviously was going to Mark Rylance

for Bridge of Spies. Dan, were you shocked that

it went that way? I know a lot of people were

saying it should go to Mark Rylance, but it's

probably gonna go to Sylvester Stallone. I was

holding out, even that it might be a surprise

and Tom Hardy or Mark Ruffalo could come on with

it. But what do you think of that one? Well,

I know the big thing for this was people were

talking about they wanted Sylvester Stallone

win because of Creed for his performance as Rocky,

and I kind of understand where that's coming

from, but... I also have no issue with Mark Rylance

winning this. I don't necessarily think that

Stallone's performance was all that phenomenal.

I thought he was good. If he won, I wouldn't

mind, but I don't think he's getting robbed the

way people are saying he's getting robbed. And

I don't think if he was giving that same performance

and was in a different movie where he wasn't

playing Rocky, he would even be nominated. So

I think people kind of just wanted him to win

just because of... his performance for Rocky

and I don't necessarily think it, I don't know,

I don't think it's as big of a shock as people

made it out to be. And I think that some people

were saying that Mark Rylance didn't deserve

it because he wasn't in the film enough. I don't

know if I necessarily subscribe to that theory.

I could see, like I said personally, I probably

would have picked between Tom Hardy and Mark

Ruffalo just because I... really enjoyed their

performances on a different level, but I had

no problem with Mark Rylance winning. Amanda,

did you have a favorite out of those? Christian

Bale and Big Short, Mark Rylance, Bridge of Spies,

you saw Tom Hardy and the Revenant, and you saw

all these, Mark Ruffalo and Spotlight and Spencer

Stallone and Creed. I probably would have gone

with Mark Ruffalo. I know that was the time where

we were in the theater and we were looking at

each other like, this is award worthy. Yeah,

I was just so blown away with his performance

there that I mean, not to take away from the

other performances, but I think that one stood

out the most for me. I don't think I was ever

watching these other movies and go, oh man, this

performance is fucking amazing. But I did, you

know, verbalize that while watching the movie,

just kind of blown away with how amazing Mark

Ruffalo was. I was kind of shocked that Bridget

Spies, dude... Got it. I was for sure that Stallone

was going to get it, actually. I wasn't behind

that. I'm a little sad that he didn't get it,

but I felt like, you know, bro, Rocky, you're

back. You did it. But I think that performances

-wise, Mark Ruffalo was more deserving. It's

all right, though. Don't feel too bad for Mr.

Stallone. He already had Arnold Schwarzenegger

immediately. consoling him for his loss. Are

you serious? No, I didn't check the list. Oh,

I thought, I totally fucking believed that. No,

it did happen. He, like, he said that you're

really, I forget what it was, but it was something,

you know, saying he should have won. But truth

is, Rocky won Best Picture in 76 when it didn't

deserve to, so he's done. So yeah, he's got probably

more awards than he deserved to for that franchise

already. All right, so best actor, best actress.

I think maybe, Dan, would you say that these

were the two most predictable categories of the

night? Oh, I would say yes. Maybe besides best

animated feature, they're pretty. Yeah. Of course,

I don't think Matt Damon or Bryan Cranston or

Eden. Michael Fassbender thought they had much

of a chance. Eddie Redmayne knew he was disqualified

for also appearing in Jupiter Ascending in the

same year. So it was pretty, pretty much shoe

-in that Leonardo was gonna finally get his win,

and I think it was deserving for this performance

in that film. I don't think there's any way you

can really gripe too much about it. As far as

the best actress, I mean, Cate Blanchett and

Carol got a lot of buzz. I didn't see that. I

really did like Sir Sheronan in Brooklyn, but

I think it was pretty much of a lock for Brie

Larson in The Room. Amanda, were you surprised

at either one of those? No, I was pretty sure

that Brie Larson was going to take it. I really

did like some of the other performances, but

The Room was such a powerful movie that I don't

think there's any way that you could ignore her

performance in that. Right. Alright, so like

I said not too much of a surprise there for DiCaprio

and Larson winning there. Only two categories

left. The first one would be best director where

we had in a retweet for the irrevenant take home

the trophy Adam McKay for Big Short, George Miller,

Mad Max, Lenny Abramson from Room and Tom McCarthy

for spotlight. I guess my only thought with best

director is I for some reason had like I don't

know if it's again more of a biased vote or more

of a sentimental Desire, but I was really pulling

for George Miller in this one just because I

thought it would be cool Even though Mad Max

had won like a billion wards already I think

he is the orchestrator of that entire success

and like without him none of those other things

are pulled off the way that they do he was kind

of more of a visionary i guess in my mind so

i was kind of hoping that george miller would

win for mad max fury road but not surprised at

all that uh mr inaritu wins for the revenant

amanda what did you think of the director category

i know you're not as into um the director aspect

of it uh i really just don't Fucking like and

erase you. I just I really don't know not much

to say about okay What were the other? Big sure

Adam McKay for Big Short George Miller for Mad

Max the guy from the room Lenny Abrams and then

Tom McCarthy from Spotlight Yeah, I'm not really

sure why he got it for the remnant. I think that

it was itself a pretty well put together film

But I wasn't completely fucking blown away by

it I mean, I could see him. I think he's on par

with any of those other guys for some reason

I think like I said, I just think George Miller

as far as the being coming up with a vision for

Mad Max and then orchestrating everything that

went into it, you know from the costumes and

the effects and all the stuff that did win awards

to the actors performances and stuff like that

and kind of just the whole vision. That's the

only reason I would maybe give him a slight edge,

but I don't think there's much distinguishing

in Ritu as far as I don't think he's any less

deserving than any of those other guys nominated.

Dan, how did you feel about the Best Director?

I also wanted to see where I was hoping that

it would go to George Miller for Mad Max. I felt,

you know, it would be like a consolation prize

for not winning Best Picture, but winning Best

Director. Right. So, but my prediction was it

would be The Revenant, and I don't necessarily

have an issue with it. Was it the best directed

film? I'm not sure. I don't know about that.

That's questionable. I think a lot of it of what

made That movie green mean not necessarily be

instruction. I actually think like Spotlight

is movie that Super Bowl it ends up getting it

another award But it's a movie and people were

having issue with it because it's like that movie

was best or got nominated for best director When

it didn't really even seem like it had one, but

I think sometimes people overlook the fact that

usually a directors Job first and foremost is

like establishing tone in an acting style with

his team And I think no one did that better than

Tom McCarthy this year, but yeah, I like they're

so again Rachel McAdams a nomination. Yeah Like

those those movies are something so there's mmm

I don't know they're so close to one another

that in which we kind of saw that I don't have

an issue with any with him winning but I was

hoping for Mad Max to pull it out because just

the insane, what he did for that movie is just

insane. And I think he could make the argument

too for a couple of these other ones. I think

he could say Adam McKay from one standpoint because

he made something that should not. work at all

as a film like I said talking about the you know

financial crisis and all the jargon that nobody

understands and all the different things and

he somehow made that into something that resonated

at least with a lot of people so I think you

could you know cite him for that like you said

Tom McCarthy with the ensemble that he had and

kind of how he orchestrated that I mean Lenny

Abrahamson using people that for a lot of a lot

of people didn't know much about you know I mean

I know Brie Larson had done things and for people

that you know cinephiles know her but you know

even the little you know Jacob Tranville and

stuff like that dealing with something that didn't

have a lot behind it like it could have you know

it is like the little indie darling I guess you

could say where it just kind of swept and swept

the the minds and hearts, I guess, of snow files

over the course of the years, so that had it

going for it. We already talked about George

Miller. I think, I guess the argument against

it in a read -through for me would be you had

Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hardy, and you had

Lubezki as your cinematographer, and... So how

much of it was you and how much of it was those

three phenomenal talents that were really making

the movie what it was. So I don't know. It's

hard to say where that line is and who has more

of an effect on that type of stuff. I mean, obviously

he is directing those actors and etc. Working

together with the cinematographer. So it's kind

of a hard category sometimes to kind of, once

you're dealing with a bunch of great directors

or great performances and directing, where do

you split the hairs, I guess? It's hard to say.

And to be fair, part of being a good director

is also hiring good talent. That's the hard thing

when it comes to direction. Direction is different

for different directors in the sense that what

makes one director great is completely different

than another one. Acting, you know acting. It's

something you can see, you can quantify, but

when it comes to direction, it's a lot more obtuse

in what makes a great director. So that's where

it kind of gets hard with this stuff, where it

becomes harder to dictate who should win it and

who shouldn't. Yeah, like you said, it's not

like best original song. You're judging five

songs. Or you know costume you're just you know

It's a much easier like you said to quantify

it as far as the main award of the night and

the final award was best picture of course more

than the Five nominees, but still not ten this

year, but we had spotlight the big short bridge

of spies Brooklyn Mad Max the Martian the revenant

and room and in somewhat of a shocking fashion

Dan because it didn't win Hardly any other awards.

We actually see spotlight take over here This

was the first time I think I don't know in a

decade over a decade that I was actually surprised

by Who won Best Picture like I kind of checked

out? I'm like, okay the revenue is gonna win

Best Picture and it's gonna be near you two up

there again talking and what So I checked out

because I thought the last three awards were

going to the revenue I was like, okay, we're

onto the revenue says, you know section of the

broadcast I can stop watching now because I already

know what they're gonna say Leonardo's gonna

win and reach is gonna win and when he said spotlight

I'm like I legitimately yelled and like, holy

crap, I forget. I was like, really? Spotlight?

And I was pulling for Spotlight, which I caught

up with before the Oscars and I was trying to

catch up with more, but. I was shocked, but I

don't know if you... I read up on how the voting

goes for Best Picture, which is different than

the other categories. In the other categories,

you just pick a winner, but with Best Picture,

you rank the films. And it makes sense that Spotlight

wins in that, because there's a good chance Spotlight

won, and no one ranked it number one. Yeah, it

was everybody's number two or something. Yeah.

And where you have movies like Revenant and Mad

Max, where I could see some of the Academy hating

Mad Max, and some loving Revenant, so you probably

had those. on either end, so it would be like

Spotlight, which had more universal success probably.

That's what ended up winning. You would think

in a voting process like that, you probably would

have had the top three, I would guess, would

have been Spotlight, The Martian, and Bridge

of Spies. Because they're not, you know what

I mean, they're not going to have those big opposition

to them. That's going to be more universal. Even

something like Brooklyn would have done well

on something like that. I can see The Revenant,

Big Short, and Mad Max having some detractors.

I kind of wish they released like those final

tallies just to see how close it was. Well, they

can't even release the names of people. That's

true. That's true. So I was very happy it won.

My only worry now, though, with it winning is

that it goes from this movie that was like this

little movie that could that was overlooked to

now it being overrated because it won Best Picture.

Like how one award can change that. And I could

see a lot of people watching the spotlight and

thinking, like, I don't see what's so great about

it because it's not a movie that's necessarily.

all that flashy and it's necessarily one that's

gonna be like I don't know it's not what people

may think of when they think of Oscar which is

why I'm surprised at one begin with so I think

it might actually have a negative impact on the

overall outlook of that movie which the Oscars

tend to do at times where a movie that like it's

just this little gem gets nominated for an Oscar

like Philomena and now everyone hates it because

it was nominated for when it didn't really deserve

to be so there's kind of that negative connotation

that comes so we'll see what happens But overall,

I was very happy that it won. Amanda, what did

you think about Spotlight coming home with the

victory there? I'm super glad about it. I think

it was really well deserving and a little shocked

based on all the hype everything else was getting.

Well, I was more so shocked because you had Mad

Max winning a billion awards. So you kind of

thought, well, maybe that's going to take a...

And then you had the expectation that The Revenant

had won some other, you know, and the other different

award shows had won stuff, plus it was getting

director, best actor, so you thought, you know,

maybe one of those two. And Spotlight seemed

like it had been not even hardly mentioned the

whole day. So I can kind of see how that was

a little shocking for some people. Sorry, I didn't

mean to cut you off. Yeah, I think it was definitely

flying under the radar there a little bit, but...

I was gunning for it. I think for me I was like,

eh, is it gonna be The Room? Is it gonna be Spotlight?

Those are the most powerful films that I saw

that were, you know, kind of worthy of being

in the mix there. And I'm glad that it was the

victor. Alright, so we beat this to death, Dan,

as far as going over all the categories and all

of our reactions to the Oscars. Overall... Based

on the whole kit and caboodle, the host, the

vignettes, the skits, the awards, the winners,

the speeches, etc. What was your overall takeaway?

If you were to rank this Oscar ceremony, did

you think it was better than some more recent

ones or where would you sit overall? I think

it's one of the best in a long time because overall

just the presentation from Chris Rock to the

fact that there were surprises, the fact that

there were some... you know, upsets that I was

happy with and you were actually kind of wondering

what would happen where a lot of the years passed,

it was kind of already obvious what was going

to win. So I think this is, I don't know, one

of the best in a long time. I will say the only

thing that disappointed me is I thought they

had the best idea ever when they were saying

that they were just gonna put all the names on

the little scrolling thank you bar. I was like,

finally we can stop having people thank people

that nobody else knows and thanking their family

and thanking people that had no effect whatsoever

on anything. I'm like, just get all that unimportant

boring nonsense on the scroll that's cool and

then maybe we'll actually get some decent, like,

speeches or some more meaningful talks. I was

like, that's a great idea. Unfortunately, I don't

think anybody actually knew that that was happening

because they all still, for the most part, thanked

everybody outside of a couple people. I mean,

I thought there was a couple good speeches that

that actually spent some time talking about something

that seemed important or that at least was heartfelt.

But what did you think of the whole idea to scroll

those names and Did they need, is it gonna be

something that no matter what they do, it's just

the standard of everybody seeing everybody do

that for decades, so they're gonna just continue

to thank everybody they know? I think it's, yeah,

I think it's just kind of a habit to thank those

people, because even if you don't put them there,

and I honestly missed that. I wasn't even paying

attention to this girl on the bottom. I just,

I don't know, just watching things, just ignoring

that by habit. Yeah. So. Because on ESPN, you

see the same things tick past you three thousand

times a minute. So. I don't know, and I thought

they were, when it came to the speeches, very

quick to play people off. I know they were trying

to keep it tight, but like, there were times

where I was like, okay, maybe just let that person

talk a little bit, because it was like the one

regarding, I think it was a one -to -one best

short documentary, and she was speaking about

something rather serious, and suddenly you have

this music playing behind her, and I thought

it was like, okay, you know what, maybe we can

cut that skit where you sell cookies, just to

let this person talk for a little bit, but you

know. I mean, I know you're not a huge award

ceremony person, but overall, what did you think

of the Oscar ceremony? Or what did you just think

of the movies that came across as the winners,

seeing so many movies this year? I'm probably

not the best person to ask that just because

I'm kind of like, oh, award ceremonies. And I

don't always agree with it and get a little frustrated.

Probably not as much as you guys do. Did you

think, though, from the perspective of, you know,

in the past, I know a lot of people that watch

these award ceremonies, they're like, they come

out and... The general audience is like well,

I've only seen two of these films I've only seen

three of these films like this year Maybe more

than most you'd seen almost everything that was

talked about outside of a few that we missed

like the Danish Girl and Carol So did you at

least feel like you had a better? Were more in

touch with what was going on? Yeah, definitely

I think that I I had more of a knowledge base

to go in this are going into this and you know

Normally, I'm just like oh, what did they wear?

But this time, I'm a little sad I missed most

of the red carpet stuff, so I didn't get to see

all the outfits, which is kind of like my favorite

part, to be honest. So I missed my favorite part.

That was a great little bit, too, about who was

that Chris Rock to when he was talking about

the guys wear the same thing. Yeah, but Kevin

Hart had a sparkly ass fucking tux. Yeah, normally

that's my favorite part. I didn't really get

to see that, but I wasn't as bummed because at

least I I knew what the hell they were talking

about and I felt like super knowledgeable about

these movies and having opinions on them and

not going to be like, well I didn't see that,

I didn't see that, I didn't see that. And then

just hoping that the one that I actually fucking

saw won. So yeah, it was a little different.

Alright, well that does it for our Oscar talk.

We'll real quickly get into some movies that

we've been watching over the last week or so.

And Dan, since we were just talking about Oscars,

let's get a little bit more of your thoughts

and opinions on Spotlight, the last of the films

I think that you caught up with before the broadcast.

So, you know, you'd heard people talk about it.

Obviously, both Amanda and I had it listed in

our top films of the year list. Did it live up

to all the hype? And what did you think as you

finally got to see that one? So yeah, I was very

much looking forward to this. Because for whatever

reason, I am a big fan of movies that's around

journalism, that's around news for some reason.

I don't know why. I don't necessarily tend to

watch the news a lot, but I love movies that

are about them, like Network or Broadcast News

or All the President's Men. And I think I've

heard a lot of comparisons to this and All the

President's Men, which makes a lot of sense.

I think there is that, but where All the Prince...

Presence been a little bit more suspenseful in

a way. This is certainly more You know emotionally

resonant in what it's going after and yeah, I

ended up really loving it It was it hits my sensibilities.

It's like a type of movie that I very much love

I thought the performances overall were all fantastic

and very much Painted the picture it needed to

win where everyone felt real and how it kind

of attacked the idea of morality and the overall

picture and how you try to find it in this craziness

that occurred and how no one was really led unscathed

in the fact that it kind of looked at the responsibilities

that was lacking in not only the church but the

newspaper itself and how it kind of dropped the

ball past and just how it looked at how institutions

can really almost in a way we take for granted

in the sense of how much power they have and

how they can, what they can get away with. But

yeah, it was devastating in a lot of ways. And

I loved a lot of the little touches that were

done by McCarthy. Like, for example, there's

a scene where you see Rachel McAdams, which he

saw in, if you saw the Oscars, it was a scene

that they showed where she was interviewing a

priest who was kind of basically freewheeling,

giving over the fact that he molested the children.

And then after that conversation, you pull back

and you see that you know, just in the distance,

there's a school there and just kind of just

like the the realization. So maybe we say that's

a little heavy handed, but I thought it was it

just did it enough to make it work and make you

understand what was going on. And it raised all

these these questions like what you do when you

have this information and you're you know, you

should you release it immediately, but to do.

Go for the bigger story. So there's a lot of

like questions that like really tough questions

that had no easy answers that went into so yeah,

I Loved it and I thought it was deserving of

best picture I don't know if it's necessarily

I would put it at my top film of the year But

it's certainly my top five right now I still

think for whatever reason I love The Martian

and I rewatched that recently again too and liked

it even more the second time. So But it's yeah,

it's excellent film. So A couple questions for

you. Was the end ruined for you prior to seeing

that, or were you as floored as everybody else

when you got to the credit scenes? Or the text

before the credit scenes? I heard about that

beforehand, but still seeing it, it was just

like, holy crap, because I thought it was going

to be names, and then finding out it was actually

what it was. I'm like, that's just insane. And

just because... Then also seeing like that's

where I used to live so that And you can picture

too if you'd seen that one in the theater how

like the exit of the theater is just like a Nobody's

talking. Yeah. Yeah, you're just leaving it in

silence. Now. I had a couple other questions

about the film, too obviously You heard a man

and I rant and rave about Mark Ruffalo. A lot

of people that we heard, you know, in the different

reviews of the movie when it came out had different

favorites. You know, a lot of people really liked

this performance, really liked that performance.

Did you have one that stood out or did you think

it was a pretty balanced ensemble overall or?

It was pretty balanced. I was like the one that

I don't know if it was the best one that kind

of stood out to me. It was the most surprised

by was Lee Shriver. Just because I don't know,

like he would he did not feel like him. Like

I feel like he. It was so subdued like I didn't

think he could give a performance like that Uh

that that I was suspecting but I thought overall

I mean mark ruffalo certainly I think had the

moment the oscar moments that that movie had

where he gives that speech But I also love what

happens after that speech and how it's almost

in vain um, but I don't know. They're all really

fantastic, but I don't know for my Favorite it

might have been michael keaton. Uh, just because

of like how he had To play all the different

cards and how he was trying like he was the one

that really had to figure out how exactly they

were gonna kind of get this accomplished the

way they did so but I also really appreciated

the the subtlety of the film and how it didn't

try to be flashy and also the the genuine or

the I guess I don't know what the best word,

the authenticity of the film that it didn't ignore

and skip over other major events that were happening.

I thought the way that they handled the twin

towers aspect was pretty phenomenal and seemed

just like a natural progression of what was going

on. Yeah, it reminded me of Zero Dark Thirty

and the way that both of those movies surrounded

gigantic, huge events in the fat end, but didn't

necessarily... Go about them the way you would

expect where they kind of just let the moment

itself like they didn't feel like the need to

Kind of Expand upon the importance of that moment

didn't then was already there They just kind

of presented it to you and almost like a matter

-of -fact way because they realized that they

really didn't have to do more than Show you what

it was like and I think that was a smart thing

to do and I think it It could cost some people

to think you know want more from it. But for

me, I thought it was a good approach because

it Considering the topic and it made it made

it made it a movie without heroes, even though

people were Doing something that was quote -unquote

heroic, but you kind of saw that there was there

was no winning in this it was just just kind

of it was almost just a Realization of our failure

and I think that was kind of what really stuck

out to me So I'm guessing you're somewhere in

the eight nine range on this one. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah probably leaning more towards nine so Alright,

excellent. I'm glad you enjoyed that one. I was

hoping that the hype didn't overdo it for you.

That you get to hear everybody say how good it

is and then somehow not meet that. So I'm definitely

happy you enjoyed that one. Amanda had a first

time watch. It was a re -watch for me. But Amanda,

why don't you tell us what your reactions and

thoughts on the usual suspects was? and explain

why you haven't seen this film up to this point.

I actually think that I've seen the ending to

this on TV by accident, because I remember seeing

that scene. I just didn't know what part of the

movie that was or what movie that was connected

to. But I'm not really sure. I think it took

me a really long time to see Reservoir Dogs 2,

and I'm not really sure about that one either.

I think that was just kind of in the same category.

What was that look for? Nothing, keep going.

But yeah, I'm not really sure. It's just something

that kind of flew under my radar. Like I was

aware of it, but I just never got a chance to

check it out. Okay, so now you saw it and what

was your reaction? I really liked it. I thought

it was cool. I didn't really see the twist coming

until the very end and I was like, oh shit. I

think there was some pretty cool stuff. going

on as far as like the schemes and the game plans

go and the bald one i didn't think he was that

bad really let's talk about who you really want

to talk about the benis yeah oh my god when i

first saw him um the reason why we have like

a whole lineup of movies and we're like oh which

one do we want to do i'm like this one because

it's got benicio notoro in it and we watched

it and um if i hadn't known that he was in this

movie i would not have known that was him. At

first I didn't know it was him. At first you

wouldn't have known it was him. No, but then

I got like a certain, like, angle of his face

and I was like, oh fuck, that's Museo del Toro

right there. And his voice, the way he was speaking,

like, I was like, yeah, this guy's fucking awesome.

But he kind of went out like a bitch, dude. I

don't think he was... I wish he would have been

there for, you know, a little bit more, but...

They didn't know what they were working with

at that point. They didn't know they had... And

I thought it was really cool seeing him so young

I I don't know what happened like when was this

movie made because it doesn't seem like It was

that long ago like Kevin Spacey looks the exact

same fucking thing. Okay. Spacey's never not

Yeah, he looks so incredibly young and still

a really super cool performance Kevin Spacey

Did a super awesome guy with CP or a fake CP

That last scene when he's walking and eventually

just goes into the regular walk spoiler, but

yeah, I've seen that some somewhere I've seen

that but yeah, it was a good ride. I liked it

I'd give it probably a seven and a half seven

and a half out of ten for usual suspects. All

right Yeah, I have not seen this film in a while,

and I forgot how young Benicio Del Toro is in

this film. So that definitely was interesting.

And it just is so weird, the collection of people

that they got for this film. Like, you would

have never put that ensemble together, I don't

think. And, I don't know, it was just like, it

was a crazy, and I think it all worked very well

together. Yes, even Baldwin. I'm glad that we

had the subtitles on, because I would have not

been able to understand what the hell you're

saying. Alright Dan, what's another one that

you saw? I caught up with Amy like we mentioned

we talked about earlier the documentary that's

currently on Amazon right now and it's from the

documentarian that did Senna and like Senna it's

all done through archival footage and I'll be

honest I was never a huge Amy Winehouse fan.

I never didn't dislike her or like her I just

didn't really know much about her besides what

you heard about with her troubles with drugs

and things like that and I think if you you've

never enjoyed music and know nothing about it

this actually works really well because it kind

of gives you an idea of just who she was as a

person and it reminds me of the soaked in bleach

documentary about Kurt Cobain because you have

two people who are immensely talented but they're

just not built for fame and just the damage that

like they were just not ready for the fame that

came their way they were never really something

they saw after and seeing how they caused them

to recoil and it also makes you kind of feel

bad because you see certain scenes where you

know there are all those jokes that were happening

at her expense and then you see like how she

was at that time and you realize that i don't

know it kind of makes you reevaluate the way

we treat people who are in her situation and

I think a very important documentary in that

sense as it kind of gives you this idea of what

could drive someone to be that way and how it's

rather a tragic story in that end. So I think

it's excellent. Like I said, I think Zen is a

little bit better just because I feel like there's,

I thought that there's more to it in that sense.

Cassetta is kind of an insane story in itself,

but I would highly recommend it. And like I said,

it's streaming now on Amazon, so you can watch

it for free if you're a Prime member, so. Awesome.

All right. We'll go through two of them real

quick because we don't need to talk about them

too much, but we caught up on Big Eyes, the Tim

Burton film from a year ago, and I gotta say

that I actually enjoyed this film quite a bit.

I don't think it's a perfect film. I think there

are some problems with it, but it's crazy how...

I mean, it's based on a true story, real events,

real people, and the fact that this stuff happened

the way it happened, and some of the stuff that

it depicts, especially like in the court scene

towards the end, the fact that it actually happened

is mind -boggling, and I just wish I could...

see more about what was going on in this dude's

head and how he thought he was going to get away

with this and how he's stuck with this lie all

the way until his deathbed and still stuck with

it never never admitted that he wasn't the person

behind those paintings and it's just a crazy

story I mean like I said there are some problems

with the from a filmmaking standpoint I think

they sometimes go a little bit too over the top

but again they're dealing with crazy people in

real life so I guess that's kind of a part of

what was going on but I actually enjoyed big

eyes I probably give this one like a six right

around six six and a half somewhere in there

Amanda what did you think as far as big eyes

are a great and quick thoughts on it I would

probably give it like a four and a half or I

really wasn't crazy about it I accidentally watched

like two Tim Burton films in one day that was

having to be the second one and I could definitely

see little touches here and there you know Tim

Burton brushstrokes and of course Danny Elfman

did the music as per the uge but um even it being

like a true story i was just like fuck this guy

like i love Christoph Waltz and uh i just this

movie made me fucking hate him and i i don't

know i just i couldn't understand her motivation

like why would you just stick up for yourself

could be an idiot i just couldn't get behind

it so yeah okay Alright and the last or not the

last one but the other one we can go through

real quick because I don't want to go into it

too much. We don't want to go down that rabbit

hole but we did see Risen in theater as far as

new release for 2016. I was anticipating this

one and I knew I was anticipating it much more

than I should. It did fall a little bit flat

for me. I mean I like Kevin Reynolds as a director

and I think Joseph Fiennes was absolutely excellent

as far as his role goes. I thought he actually

gave a good performance but Was hoping that this

was gonna be a little bit more than it was so

Just a quick grade for me for risen. I would

give this one a five out of ten I know Amanda

you're gonna be much lower than this, but what

did you feel? Yeah, I'll give it like a three

I was bored. I wanted to see some more cool stuff

happen like miracles and shit, and I think when

the miracles I did happen like tagline risen

miracles Even when the miracles did happen, people's

reactions, I would have been losing my shit if

I would have seen some of this stuff. And they

were just like, the one guy seemed like Jesus'

hype man. I don't even like... Some of the performances

were not very good. No, and fucking Draco Malfoy

and his big ass dome and puppy eyes. His real

name's not Draco Malfoy though. He tells me that

every time I say that. I don't care. I know what

his name is. It's Draco Malfoy. But I like Joseph

Fiennes. He's pretty cool. I'm actually watching

him in Camelot, the TV show right now, and he's

way better as Merlin than he was as this guy.

I think his performance is okay, but I just think

it was kind of weak overall. I think they handled

some things fairly well, but yeah, I think some

of it fell a little bit flat overall. They didn't

dive... I was hoping for a little bit more of

the mystery and a little bit more into the politics

and the different things that were going behind

the scenes as far as everybody trying to play

it for their own advantage and I think that they

kind of didn't do what they could have with that

and kind of skipped to some other stuff but I

don't think they they They delve too deep into

anything and then it just kind of made the whole

thing lackluster Yeah, it didn't really do it

for me but and at one point they're like all

ha ha and we're all loving Jesus and he's back

and you know Mary Magdalene has her hand on his

shoulder and they're all looking at him like

yay, and then he's just gone. Spoiler alert.

Yeah, I don't care. Yeah, he literally just disappears

and Everybody's like oh well guess we gotta go

walk around and find him again and it's just

a lot of like oh man I guess we gotta go find

him and It was just, yeah, it was lackluster.

All right. So now a great review for Risen. Dan,

I know you saw one more that you caught up with.

What was that one? Yeah, it's in the rewatch

for me, but it's currently now came on Netflix

and it's... Justice League flashboy parent paradox

the DC animated film and I'm preparation for

Batman versus Superman It might be it might be

if I can make that excuse for it No, it's because

I was like I got I was watching the cartoon Young

Justice and I was kind of like wanted to watch

something similar But there wasn't really any

Cartoon series, but this is the closest thing.

So yeah, I picked it up and I watched it before

but I wanted to see again and I'm I love alternate

storylines, alternate universe storylines, so

I still think it's one of DC's best. It's highly

violent, though. I mean, so I'm wondering if

they could transform this into, with all the

R -rated talk when it comes to comic book movies,

kind of an interesting one to go to, because

though this is rated PG -13, I wonder if they

did the same thing for a live action if it would

be rated R, but for those that don't know, it's

a story regarding Flash. the character who goes

back in time or something happens where things

change and now the world's different Batman is

different in the sense that it's not Bruce Wayne

it's his father because Bruce was killed so his

father stayed alive and other things like other

changes the big thing is that Aquaman and Wonder

Woman are fighting so the whole world is kind

of like this apocalyptic mess but it's well done

the action scenes are well done the animation

The style I'm still not a huge fan of the style

because it's almost anime ish But I kind of I

get over that and I can appreciate it. But uh,

like I said, I still think it's probably I DC

hasn't made one to this level in a while I still

think it was kind of the crowning achievement

for them in a sense and then ever since then

they've been They've been kind of going towards

the new 52 stories, which haven't been nearly

as good But I don't know I would I probably give

it about you know, solid seven half eight out

of ten Nice. Definitely a good recommend there.

I actually do like the alternate universe, alternate

timeline type stories, so that's why I kind of

like playing that injustice game because it kind

of gives you a little different look. But yeah,

sounds good. As far as, we need to squeeze one

more in because we literally just finished this

film right before the record and we had heard

nothing but... people crap on this film last

year and so I gotta get this off my chest but

we just actually finished a legend starring Tom

Hardy and Tom Hardy and I gotta say I don't know

what the big problem with this film was from

everybody I Enjoyed this film thoroughly. I thought

Tom Hardy and Tom Hardy were both fantastic Man

it's hard to say because one of them's playing

so much more of a crazy character and one of

them's playing much more of a Likeable up to

a certain point when things go a little bit different

It's really weird seeing them play these two

characters off of each other because they are

he does find a way to make them so different

but I I don't get all the hate for this film.

I thought it was very humorous at a lot of times.

I thought it was brutal at times. I thought it

had interesting themes going on as far as loyalty

to family versus understanding if your brother's

being a douchebag and kind of where you draw

that line. I thought it had a good balance of

action, comedy, drama. I think there was a couple

moments at the end that kind of... come out of

left field and you're not quite sure on the character's

motivations in a couple parts but on the first

watch maybe it's just because I was hearing everybody

say that this was utter garbage that it far exceeded

my expectations I don't know what you felt Amanda

yeah definitely I'm right in line with your feelings

on that I did not expect to hate it though I

was totally ready to love it and hearing all

the crap about it I was super bummed like man

so when I actually you know saw it and all those

are kind of you know pushed to the wayside there

then as soon as I started watching it and I was

like totally vested I'm like yes this is super

awesome it looked great Tom Hardy on point in

his suits and probably do need the subtitles

yeah yeah some serious cockney stuff going on

but the only thing that kind of hurt my heart

a little bit was his relationship with his wife

or whatever that kind of yeah at the end there

it gave me the hashtag feels a couple times like

i was like man it kind of put me put me in i

put myself in a position and and just kind of

tried to feel what she's feeling and it was you

know i didn't really get like you said the motivation

for a couple things that one of the characters

did because it really didn't seem like it fit

the character yeah it didn't fit didn't fit his

his mo really but uh overall i really really

enjoyed it um it wasn't a it wasn't really a

feel -good movie but it had a couple moments

that um i was like yes it had like some fist

pump moments for me if there's anybody that's

a die -hard fan of tom hardy or if there's anybody

that loves gangster mobster movies do not listen

do not let the critics sway you on this because

i think you will enjoy it I'm not saying it's

a masterpiece or, you know, one of the best movies

I saw from 2015, but if you're a fan of those

types of movies, I would see this because I think

it's worth a watch. It does feel a little long

to me. We checked where we were at and it felt

like I'd been watching the movie for two hours

and we were only an hour into it. So like an

hour and a half. So maybe it feels a little it

might feel a little bit long for some people,

but I honestly think just. for the fact of watching

Tom Hardy and Tom Hardy play against each other

in this film and being able to see the humor

and the not just humor I don't want to make it

seem like it's funny funny haha or something

like that but the the humorous way that they

act and it's just some batshit craziness the

brutality that comes into this I mean I think

this this is a good I think I would put this

in a good company with gangster mobster picks

so would not be swayed by the by the negative

reviews I actually got to go back and read some

of the negative reviews and listen to some of

the podcasts about this to figure out what everybody's

issue was not like I said not saying it's perfect

but I think it was much better than people gave

it credit for so I would give this one like a

seven out of ten I'm gonna give it an eight I

really really liked it all right So that is Legend

and that's it for what we've been watching real

quickly then as we close out looking ahead to

the week ahead for Blu -ray releases. We've got

quite a few here. We got In the Heart of the

Sea from last year. We have Victor Frankenstein

from last year and we have Macbeth and Tribe.

Those are the films from last year and then for

I guess for anybody that's a fan of some Finally

out on blu -ray or new additions. We've got Howard

the Duck on blu -ray batteries not included along

came Polly for some reason if you're a species

fan you got species 2 species 3 and species the

awakening and Yeah, we can finally see Macbeth

as far as theater releases wide definitely streaming

on Amazon as well. So Macbeth is yep Oh, cool.

Excellent. As far as theater releases, the wide

releases are Zootopia, London Has Fallen, and

Whiskey Tango, Foxtrot. We talked all about all

of those a little bit in last week's episode

as we previewed March. And then as far as limited

or video -on -demand releases, you have Night

of Cups, The Other Side of the Door, The Wave,

and I don't know if I'm going to say that right.

A meal? It's almost like Amelie, but there's

already a film that's called that. I think it's

Amelie. I hope so. Amelie? Emily? It seems like

it's it's it's a read the the plot for that film

makes it sound exactly like The visit from last

year except instead of grandparents the kids

are with a babysitter. That is not who they think

she is But I don't know why I'm talking about

that film. But Dan, if you had your choice of

all those films that we just mentioned, which

one are you most interested in? Well, the Blu

-ray for Howard the Duck is super, super enticing.

The fact that movie is going to Blu -ray is insane

to me. And Xanadu. Wow. Oh yeah, I forgot about

that. Honestly, I'm really... Zootopia looks

like it could be good. And looks like it could

be really good. Part of me I'm not very proud

of. Does want to see Linda has fallen Even like

just that like need of seeing just a crazy over

-the -top Insane action movie that makes no sense.

But yeah, so it's obvious where I want to see

in theaters Okay, what about you Amanda? I want

to see the other side of the door. I think that

looks pretty freaking creepy. You would All right

I'm going to go with Dan. I'm interested in Zootopia

with a caveat that I will be seeing Macbeth because

I love Shakespeare and I love Fassbender. So

let's put them together and see what happens

even though I'm probably going to need subtitles

for the subtitles. So alright, so that is it

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