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Hey, this is Steve Blum, and you are listening
to the Geekcast Radio Network. Today on episode
70 of The Cinema Geeks, we discuss the growing
cast of Doctor Strange. We react to the first
teaser from Disney's The Jungle Book. We talk
about which Marvel characters might be showing
up in each other's films soon. And in our main
attraction, we play a brand new game, Fantasy
Filmmaker. All that and more coming up on episode
70 with The Cinema Geeks. All right, welcome
to episode 70, like we said, of The Cinema Geeks.
I am one of your geeks, Optimus Solo. Joining
me, as always, is movie rebel Dan. Hello. Hey,
how's it going? Pretty good. And hard candy Mandy.
Hello. What's happening? The last time you'll
be on air before you're one year older. Oh, man.
Really? Yeah. True that. Let's see what I get
some business out of the way because we usually
do it at the end give people a quick shout out
to Call to action. I guess is the better word
call to action. We just put out our final actual
review from the Tarantino retrospective myself
and Dan and as part of that we have a poll up
on the website so people should go to the website
and vote and what you're voting on is out of
four possible directors that we would do for
the next retrospective so you need to go to the
website there you can find out who those four
directors are and you can cast a vote to help
us decide what we will do next I haven't checked
at the moment and I don't know if you've seen
how many votes we've got or who's in the lead
or whatnot, but I've been getting messages from
other fellow podcasters and past former hosts
and stuff like that on who's winning and who's
not and who they're voting for. So apparently
some people are interested in helping us decide
what's next. 40 votes, I think, last of my checks.
Wow. I didn't even know we had 40 listeners.
But yeah, I know. Maybe people just really like
voting in polls. It's like, you know what? I
almost got one of those computers that like changes
the IP address every time they log in or something.
Exactly. But yeah, so there are four very different
directors, I would say, and all come with different
backgrounds, which would be interesting to see
who is winning. So check that out, and we'll
kind of announce the winner in our final wrap
-up episode of the Quentin Tarantino Retrospective.
Yeah, so if you if you're said that the Tarantino
retrospective is ending you still have one more
episode to listen to so we're gonna do some fun
wrap -up lists and ranks and all kinds of little
awards that we'll give out for the Tarantino
filmography. So there's one more chance to listen
to that and then obviously like Dan said to listen
to see who is going to be next. Dan, how's your
week been going and what's new? Well, you know
football's back so... Probably the worst football
weekend I've had in quite a long time. Opening
weekend, being a Giants fan, very aggravating
loss. That was beyond aggravating. I'm not even
a Giants fan in Iowa. Yeah, yeah, so that was
that was not fun to watch and then I have to
congratulate you because we actually played each
other first week of fantasy football and It was
a heart -fart game came down to the bitter end,
but I ended up losing so Adrian Peterson just
decided not to show up the first week. So kind
of and no he definitely hurt you Yeah, I thought
for sure you're gonna be able to beat me with
him go on the last Yeah, I mean Julio Jones got
you like a trillion points. So Who would have
known I had two guys going Monday and they both
scored two touchdowns So, um, I'll take my, my
weekly, uh, turn or visit at the, at the first
place podium. And then I will watch the rest
of the season. But hopefully not, hopefully not.
But I got to, I'm going up against a JD this
next week and he put up some points last week.
So hopefully I can, I can make it two for two
and taking down fellow podcasting friends. But
we'll see. Meanwhile, the Dolphins did win. So
it wasn't pretty, but it happened. So we're going
to take it. Our first six quarterbacks we're
playing this year are all terrible. They've won
three games in the last five years. Yeah, when
Kirk Cousins is one of the best ones you're playing.
Yeah, exactly. So I think the rookie will be
the best one we play from Buffalo. But anyways,
Amanda, how was your week? Anything fun or exciting
that you've done recently? You know, just...
going to a surprise Ed Sheeran concert last night,
bought it and work, you know? It'd be huge. I
don't know, apparently movie podcasters don't
know who Ed Sheeran is though, so that might
be falling on deaf ears. Well that's because
you're old crotchety men, and I'm the only young
hip in the now person that's not true, but definitely
check him out, he's pretty awesome. There's also
Christina Pirri and uh... So it was a good time.
It was probably the most low -key show I've ever
been to, but I had probably one of the best times
ever. And if you don't know who Ed Sheeran is,
you should at least check out his YouTube covers
of crazy songs like Christina Aguilera's Dirty
or... He even does the Redman rap. Yeah, him
and Passenger did... No diggity. No diggity.
He does everything. It's fun. So I enjoyed it
as well. So that was basically what we did this
last week. I'm still car shopping, so hopefully
I'll eventually have my own vehicle soon. So
it's exciting stuff, buying cars. Not really.
Alright, so let's get into some movie stuff.
That's what people have tuned in for, so we usually
start by checking out the box office from the
past weekend, Rotten Tomatoes, etc, etc. And
we are in crazy good times for the box office,
right Dan? Yeah, crazy times maybe. It is a whole
bunch of nothing, but somehow these two films
that debuted this last weekend actually put up
some money. The Perfect Guy, eh? coming in at
number one barely with 25 .8 million and the
visit from M Night Shyamalanma Ding Dong came
in at 25 .4. So they both debuted at 25 million.
Does that surprise you? Yeah, a little bit. Mostly
because I'd never heard of The Perfect Guy until
they came out on the box office and I'm curious
like how that compares to other Shyamalan films.
with 25 million. It seems like a success now
compared to everything he's done previously,
which has been god -awful. I've heard good things,
I've not seen The Visit, but it seems like it's
at least not being called one of the worst movies
of the year, which is a step in the right direction
for him. Ten movies, though. If you look at a
top ten, The Visit, which I hadn't heard of until
just recently, obviously I know M. Night Shyamalan,
the perfect guy. not know much about. War Room,
I still don't know. I mean, I know what we talked
about in kind of the brief synopsis or whatever,
but had never heard of it before. No Escape had
never heard before like September. 90 Minutes
in Heaven, I still don't think this is the first
time I've even read that. And then the one from
last week, un gallo con muchos huevos. Yeah,
it's like it's like the offseason where it's
like all the, you know, bench players are getting
in and like, I didn't even know these guys were
on our team. Right? Like, who's number 12? It's
like spring training in baseball. You're like,
who's number 98? What is going on? There's no
98s in baseball. But yeah, so Walk of the Woods
was the fourth place and then Mission Impossible.
Rogue Nation was number five with War Room at
number three. None of them making much money.
And then as far as Rotten Tomatoes go, to kind
of just... I guess put a highlight on what we're
going through right now at the box office and
what our choices are at the theater. The Perfect
Guy has a 22%, War Room has a 38%, Transporter
Refueled 16%, No Escape 42%, The Visit 59%, A
Walk in the Woods 46%, 90 Minutes in Heaven 21%,
Sinister 2 13%, and Hitman Agent 47 7. Yeah,
I don't think you add those up you'd even get
a hundred I Definitely don't think that that
would be us. Yeah, that's not gonna work out
for you So I mean if you want to see a good movie
at the moment you have to go back to ones that
were have been out for a while Mission Impossible
straight out of Compton Ant -man, you know stuff
like that. The good news is I think this weekend
it's gonna change a little bit so I almost want
to go on a rant though. Like why did we have
to sit through three weeks of nothing? All to
have like 17 movies come out this weekend, I
don't know. Like, could we not have spaced that
out just a little bit? But yeah, the ones coming
out this next weekend, actually as you listen
to this, they're probably being released already
or, you know, some of them could probably come
out early. Pawn Sacrifice, Black Mass, Everest,
Captive, Sicario, and Maze Runner Scorched Trials.
So, no need for them to not all come out on the
same day. But I guess that leads us into what
we think about for this next weekend. Which way
are you going, Dan? Are you going to make a box
office prediction, a Rotten Tomatoes prediction?
I'm going to take a trick out of Amanda's book
and try to guess the top three. Oh, wow. This
is a tough week to do that. Yeah, yeah, but I
think it makes it a little bit more fun because
you got kind of a collective group here, a lot
of very different films. You have, you know,
your young... Teen film you have a gangster film
and then like in a disaster survival movie. So
actually gonna i'm gonna say that for number
one we have uh Maze runner scorch earth. It's
probably gonna screech out with number one. You
know, it's got that following. It's a sequel.
It's young adults I think it's it has that for
number two two and three are hard like i've been
going back and forth between black mass and everest
i'm gonna i'm gonna go and say black or i'm gonna
say Everest is number two. Jake Gyllenhaal has
a bigger cast. I think it does seem like a movie
you would get more out of in a theater experience
than Black Mass. And Johnny Depp, I know, has
some detractors as of late. So I'll say number
one, Maze Runner, two, Everest, and three, Black
Mass. All right. Making a hard tap three prediction
with three brand new films that are being released.
I applaud you for making the The risky pick there.
Amanda, what do you think? Are you got something
in mind for this weekend at the box office? I
will see Dan's three and I will flip them. I'm
going to go with Black Mesa number one, Sicario
number two, and Maze Runner number three. So
Everest doesn't make it top three? Nope. This
could be number four. Wow. I feel like I should
just say something easy and be like, the top
five doesn't consist of all new movies. Man,
you guys are... I was gonna just try to predict
the number one and I can't do that now because
you guys have gone all out. Man, I'm going to
say that... Oh, man. I'll go top three too. I'll
put a top three out there that's not the same
as you guys. I will put Black Mass at number
one, Maze Runner at number two, but I will go
with Everest at number three because I'm not
sure how wide a release Sicario will have immediately.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know if it's going
to be released in as many theaters right away
as the other ones, but I could be wrong. So I
will go with Sicario at number four. Alright,
we'll see whose predictions for the top three
are the closest since we're all basically picking
the same movies in different orders. As for news
stories, we've got a couple things to get through
before we get to trailer talk and then like we
said we have a fun, hopefully a fun new game
at our main attraction that you guys should definitely
check out. First up though for news stories,
a couple things here. First off, some bad news
possibly when it comes to a couple different...
Films and that would be the gambit film and the
sequel to Pacific Rim This is the one time that
I'm gonna freak out a little bit before you even
get going because I'm super mad that Again, there's
some kind of hold up with gambit and the Pacific
Rim to alright camera tutorial just get Your
stuff together and make it happen because I like
the first one but I wanted more out of it and
I think they need to do it and I'm pretty mad
that now it's basically getting pushed off to
the side, off to the back burner, off the stove,
not gonna happen. It's a lot of fire stuff that
you were just talking about. Yeah, I'm mad about
it. Dan, are you mad that Pacific Rim 2 is gonna
be held up? I was almost surprised it was gonna
be made, so to me it's just like, I felt like
this was inevitable. I didn't think it was gonna
come through. I'm a little upset. I was looking
forward to seeing Pacific Rim 2 for sure, so
it's almost like a... You know, I'm definitely
disappointed, especially because it's getting
on hold to get the focus on Godzilla and Kong
crossover movie, and I'd rather see Pacific Rim.
Why see a monster movie with no robots? I'd rather
have robots in my monster movie. Yeah, we don't
need to see monsters versus monsters. We need
to see the genres collide. Yeah, I could see
more of that world, too. I know a lot of people...
Pacific Rim, too, was weirdly divisive. A lot
of people liked it and then a lot of people really
had bad reactions to it. But I could definitely
see some more of that world and I'd be down for
that. And I'm definitely not a big huge fan of
the monster mashup that they're trying to set
up between all of the Godzilla, King Kong...
Yeah, especially when we're having that Rampage
movie coming out too. I feel like that's gonna
be similar so... Right. I don't know. It's like
first we're gonna have a Godzilla film where
he has to fight like multiple... His like iconic
enemies, I guess you could call it and then since
that's not enough then after that We're gonna
throw him in with like King Kong. Why not just
combine them all like the come on now like that
seems like the perfect answer That's just yeah
be like the Mortal Kombat of like disaster movies
and we can make it Pacific Rim 2 But yeah, I
don't know I I guess whatever that company is
just grasping at straws right now and I think
they're really in a position where they have
to hope that Warcraft somehow is not a bomb,
because that's the same company that's doing
Warcraft, right? Yeah. And if that tanks next
year, then I think they're going to be in some
financial positions where some of these big plans
are not going to come to fruition. So I think
that somebody saw that early and decided to hold
back on Pacific Rim 2 for the moment. What are
your thoughts, Dan, on Gambit losing its director?
Uh, not too surprising. I feel like when it comes
to most movies, the director's really mostly
just a figurehead, so I'm not too worried about
it, honestly. We've seen this happen a lot, especially
with Marvel. So, again, I feel like Gambit's
also one of those movies that's essentially just
not gonna happen. It just seems like every day
there's a new story about, you know, Tainted
Tate not really wanting to do it, and now it's
losing a director, so... Who knows if it actually
ends up getting made? Yeah. Yeah, it just seems
like it's in kind of a purgatory of sorts that
we see a lot of times with movies. And what happens
then is eventually even if they do get made,
you kind of can see the ramifications of everything
I went through to try to get made. It's usually
not a good thing. Amanda, I know you haven't
seen the... Previous to Planet of the Apes film,
so you probably can't comment too much on this
That's still something on our to -do list to
check out, but Dan Okay, but you fell asleep
Okay, that doesn't count then. As far as the
next Planet of the Apes film, War for Planet
of the Apes, we have an article coming out this
week talking about who will be the, I guess the
main human figure, and that name being thrown
about is none other than Woody Harrelson. So
what's your take on shifting now we've had Franco,
and then we had Jason Clarke, and now they're
talking about going to Woody Harrelson for the
third film. Interesting, that is unexpected.
Definitely. Yeah, I thought they would at least
be me keep Jason Clarke and his family I like
what he hails in a lot. He's like one of my favorite
actors. I feel like he can do anything I just
seem weird to see him headlining a summer blockbuster
though. That doesn't seem like a you know, something
Yeah be doing I'm not against it these really
that I'm hoping they make the star of the show
stays the apes, because my guess is maybe considering
the ending of not to give anything away that
maybe he's some sort of military presence or
if he's the villain or if he's the, you know,
I don't know. That seems to be the most plausible
scenario that he would be some type of villainous
military figurehead. We've seen him play, you
know, out of the furnace. He can play a menacing
figure for sure. Yeah, I'd like to see him go
up against Caesar. and see how that works out.
But I'm not, I think you hit it right on the
head though, the main character from these films
usually is the apes themselves. So I think you
can get away with having, even Jason Clarke I
don't think is that big of a name for like a
summer blockbuster. I mean, he's gained a lot
of ground in the last couple of years, but you
know, I just think it's a franchise that can
kind of, it can still do justice with having
someone like a Woody Harrelson, Jason Clarke,
not to. take anything away from them they're
good actors but it doesn't need that like Tom
Cruise or you know big -name blockbuster star
type thing Amanda excited for some does does
Woody Harrelson being involved make you more
excited to catch up with the other two films
recently have seen have seen him in seven psychopaths
and it's kind of reinstilled how badass Woody
Harrelson actually is. We'll be talking more
about that probably a little bit later. So I
think I'm geared up to see Woody Harrelson as
a villain. Alright. I know you're excited about
this one though for sure. Probably way more than
Dan and I. We'll see. But Charlie's Angels reboot
with... Do you just want to take over? Elizabeth
Banks directing. So you're apparently on board
for this. Yeah, I love the other... Charlie's
Angels movies, and I know I'm gonna get a lot
of flack from that. I don't care. Wait, let's
clarify that. You liked the first one, or you
liked both of them? I liked both of them. Okay.
I just wanted people to hear that so they could
direct their flack accordingly. Okay, yeah, both
of them. Super legit. Love Karen Diaz. I even
like Drew Barrymore in this. Lucy Lu. Yeah, cool.
I like her too, I guess. But, I mean, I think
it's a fun story, and... Do you want any of them
to return? to the reboot or just Bill Murray?
Just Bill Murray would be fine. I mean, I've
already seen him as the Angels. I think that
it's only fitting in line to have some new Angels.
Dan, any excitement for Charlie's Angels? Oh,
buckets of excitement. Honestly, I can't really...
I never really watched the originals. I remember...
I've watched them on TV. I haven't watched them
on TV too, so I can't really give a straight
opinion on those. Again, I... It's just something
I don't personally have interest in, but I can
see the appeal, for sure. Maybe if they get the
good cast and a good director it could actually
end up being pretty good. 21 Jump Street ended
up working really well, so maybe they went more...
I know the other ones were more comedic. It wasn't
straightforward, but even if they played that
a little heavier it could maybe be even better.
Yeah, I think that would be a good direction.
I'm like you. I don't know if I've even seen
the other ones straight through, so I shouldn't
comment too much. It's just not something that...
Could get my interest at the time, but I agree
if they did something like the 21 Jump Street
did that might work Alright, let's get into some
more superhero stuff Dan Marvel crossovers galore
the talk about X -Men being possibly seen Deadpool
and All these different characters possibly showing
up in each other's movies. Obviously. This is
outside of the Avenger universe but what do you
think about the possibility of some of these
guys showing up in each other's movies as they're
kind of hinting at? I guess it depends on like
involvement for sure so like you know Wolverine
showing up briefly in a Deadpool movie I can
kind of understand or Deadpool in an X -Men movie
maybe I know how big one's been like the Fantastic
Four possibly trying to show up if that ends
up being still going for it or not I don't know
it can be done well like I'm thinking of It's
not really a crossover, but when Wolverine shows
up in like X -Men First Class, it's brief and
pretty funny, but eventually it can get kind
of just a little bit too much, so I don't know.
We'll see for sure, but I kind of like the X
-Men universe staying within itself and not trying
to expand and just being buying to lonesome,
so I hope it doesn't try to do too many crossovers.
Yeah, I think you kind of hit it again on the
on the head there with if it's done, right and
if it's done More sporadically or you know when
it makes sense instead of just like oh Let's
throw everybody in each other's movie type thing
then I would be on board. What about you? Maybe
you know down to the idea of Deadpool showing
up somewhere or or one of the X -Men Showing
up in his film somewhere. Yeah, I'm okay with
that as long as it's done, right? I think that
it should You know, add a little touch of flair
there. I don't think it needs to be brief if
it's done, right? You know what I mean? I know
that Colossus is supposed to show up in Deadpool,
which I think is great because that's a character
that has not done much in the X -Men movies,
but even maybe had the opportunity to shine in
like a Deadpool film. So I do think that'd be
kind of cool to get some of the characters that
get overlooked in the bigger films and when you
have a movie like Deadpool allowing you to kind
of highlight those a little bit and give them
some more screen time. Yeah, I'd be on board
for that as well. Speaking of the one other group
that you did mention, the Fantastic Four, that's
one group that I would personally not like to
have show up in any of those films, but another
article that came out was talking about the Fantastic
Four sequel, and these are quotes coming from
producer Simon Kinberg. Do I think it was unfairly
treated? I don't know. And then, quote, I'm really
focused on the next one. I do believe there's
a great Fantastic Four movie that we've made
with that cast. So I'm going to figure out what
that is. That paired with Kate Mara's comment,
which was, quote, I would love to play Sue Storm
in a movie that everybody loves. That would be
great. It's just like they're all basically saying
the same thing that they like hey, we had a great
cast and We'd love to make a good movie with
that cast and we just didn't do it. So I Would
making there's no way that I don't know is it
nobody would watch Fantastic Four 2 would they?
There was only a hundred people that watched
the first one. I would say it's highly unlikely.
I mean unless they got like amazing wave reviews
or like it it's hard to bounce back with a film
that like Even movies that say are financially
not that successful but are critically acclaimed
like that do really well even when they get sequels
like I'm thinking of something I kick ass right
which didn't do that well, but it had pretty
overall was well regarded and then when that
sequel came out it did not do not perform and
so I for a movie that was both not liked by anyone
that much and It was financially I don't see
how, like, what are you building on? Exactly.
Well, currently Fox is 100 % committed. It's
scheduled to open June 9th, 2017. So I guess
we have about a year and a half or a little bit
more for them to realize that that's a terrible
decision. Who's making decisions here? And we'll
talk more about Fantastic Four shortly. Oh, nice.
A couple more things to talk about real quick
before we get into trailers. I know this one
also has Amanda super excited. A new installment
to the Jeepers Creepers franchise. Finally! Now,
again, we've talked about this a number of times
when this happens. This movie has been in the
works for over 10 years. Does that scare you,
Amanda? No, it doesn't. What scares me is the
freaking creeper because that thing terrified
me back in the day. One and two, definitely,
they... I would say the second one being a sequel
wasn't as great as the first one but it still
creeped me the hell out. I think the character
of the creeper is definitely one that can do
some damage and I'm waiting for him to be let
loose for another 23 days in the spring so he
can eat people. Dan, have you seen the first
or the second Jeepers Creepers? That I have not.
I have not seen either. Okay, so you're missing
out. I need to, you know, October's around the
corner, so I'm always looking for some horror
films to check out. I think that's one of the
first movies I ever saw Justin Long in. I actually
am not even a horror fan, and somehow I've seen
the first Jeepers Creepers. You sat through that?
I did, and I actually didn't hate it. Where were
you? It's a ringing endorsement. Was I drunk?
No, I wasn't drunk. And yeah, it is a ringing
endorsement. I don't know. I think it was just
like on TV or something. And for some reason
I watched it. I don't even know how it sucked
me in. But I didn't watch the second one. But
I did watch the first one and it was mildly enjoyable,
I remember. So I mean, just me seeing a horror
film, I guess, is a... endorsement. I'm shocked.
I'm in a mild state of disbelief that you actually
watched this movie because everything about it
is something that you hate. Yeah, I'm not saying
I'm signing up to watch the third one. I just
remember seeing the first one and like I said
I didn't hate it. Alright the last news story
for us today is all about Doctor Strange because
there's been casting rumors and news all about
that film in the last couple weeks so I just
want to go over the overall cast up to this point
and get your guys reaction overall. So Dan we
got Benedict Cumberbatch obviously playing Doctor
Strange. We now have the Rachel McAdams, who
we don't know who she's playing, I don't think
yet, but being involved. We have, uh, Ejiofor
playing Baron Mordo, Tilda Swinton playing the
Ancient One, and the last name that got thrown
about there was also Mads Mikkelsen being involved.
And Benedict Cumberbatch? So, Cumberbatch, Ejiofor,
Tilda Swinton, Mads Mikkelsen, Rachel McAdams,
whatever. Dan, what's your reaction to that cast?
I think it's the best cast Marvel has had, just
acting talent wise. Like, it's kind of crazy.
You know, if you didn't tell people that was
a comic book movie, I don't think many people
would think that would be... You could put that
list of casting out, like, at the beginning of
the year, and just put, like, untitled film,
and people would have listed that as one of their
most anticipated films of the year. Yeah. It'd
be like, oh, it's some sort of Shakespearean
drama. It's like, kind of. It's about a dude
with magical powers. uh... uh... yeah i think
the cast is i mean children before playing uh...
uh... conflict villain great i always thought
you'd make a great black panther but the fact
he's gonna be baren morrow is uh... in interesting
it's definitely not like the the character of
the comic which is fine but uh... i think he
Seeing him play a villain is great because he
was awesome in serenity as like he's got like
a you know as the antagonist in that so looking
forward to seeing him and Tilda Swinton's great
in everything she does so it's I'm really looking
forward to a casting wise so Yeah, I'm on board
as well Amanda. What do you think? Yeah, I'm
pretty much on board for anything comic books
I'm not too familiar with the Doctor Strange
storyline, but I am interested in finding out
via this movie Alright, so nobody upset about
that casting nor, I mean I think if anybody in
the world was upset about the casting for Doctor
Strange so far that they need to check their
pulse or I don't know what they want. Doesn't
seem like you can get any better than what they've
assembled so far. So that is the news There's
a couple other items that we didn't go over so
you definitely have to check out the website
and see what those items are and Let us know
what you're excited about or what you're not
excited about as far as the news stories this
week But that takes us into trailer talk and
we have a few trailers that have been released
Including the second trailer for Creed in the
heart of the sea bridge of spies a new trailer
for hunger games We had the first teaser for
the jungle book We had a trailer for Divergent,
Allegiant, something, something, something, as
well as a bunch of horror films and a variety
of other things. So Amanda, I'm not going to
let you go first because I have to talk about
one first because it's the only one I want to
talk about on the whole list. The Jungle Book?
It is The Jungle Book. You thought I was going
to take it. I thought someone was going to steal
it, so I'm just jumping right out there. But
the Jungle Book teaser, where we get to see our
first look at kind of the look of what this film
will be, the CGI, some of the voice work, including,
obviously, Scarlett Johansson, and just our first
look. And I got to say, I was very tentative
with this whole project. I didn't know how they
were going to pull it off or what it was going
to look like, et cetera, et cetera. I got to
say, I'm... At this point, I'm still all in.
I'm all in, actually. I'm more confident than
I was before. I'm not sure everybody would have
the same reaction as I am, but man, the cast
that's assembled for this one, the look of it
so far, and maybe they just got me with Baloo
whistling at the end, the bare necessities. But
I don't know, Dan, what did you think about the
trailer or the teaser? I did like it. I do think
the CGI looks very convincing for the most part.
curious to see how the voices are going to work.
That to me is the key. It seems like they didn't
show that too much. I was a little worried that
it would be a little too serious, but it does
seem, like you mentioned with the whistling at
the end, that they're not going to forget the
comedy. But I'm looking forward to it. It looks
like it could be good. I'm a little mad because
when we did box office predictions, I put that
in for this year, and it's not coming out until
next year. So that one I got wrong. I think for
a live action jungle book, I'm in. Did it take
you like five or 10 seconds when you're hearing
Scarlett Johansson just doing voice work to get
her out of your mind? Yeah, it's a robot snake.
It's weird. It's like, man, I hear this operating
system talking. But honestly, for those people
that were upset or whatever, getting their panties
in a bundle over the character being a different
gender. I have absolutely, especially after hearing
it, I have absolutely no problem with that character
being female. Oh. You're worried about the gender
of a snake. I don't know what to tell you. Exactly.
People were upset though. People were like, how
dare you change the gender of Kai? It's like,
it's a snake and it's a little boy. It makes,
you know, I don't know. Hey, if you're a little
boy and you hear the voice of Scarlett Johansson,
you'd probably be hypnotized. Exactly. It works.
So Amanda, what was your reaction to the teaser?
The first look at the Jungle Book? You know,
I was a little leery too, especially hearing
there's like two Jungle Books coming out now,
right? I don't know. There's two of everything.
We only do things in pairs. Well, I was a little
leery, but I'm pretty familiar with the classic
and I was definitely intrigued that now seeing
the teaser, I'm on board. I don't know if I liked
the visual on the snake as much but I really
I really like the visual on all the other animals
for sure especially with the kind of the fighting
back and forth between a couple of them that
they showed so I don't know I think it looks
like a lot of fun and and like as long as it
keeps that little comedic edge or a little bit
of that looseness at times especially with the
balloon character and and King Louie a little
bit even though he's kind of was always a somewhat
of a I don't know intimidating character so I
don't know I think it's gonna be interesting
for sure so that's my pick I'm gonna say yay
for that trailer Amanda now you can go which
which one of the other trailers would you like
to bring up if any oh no I can go well I'm gonna
go in directions D you do not see coming and
I'm gonna pick the lobster as a yay I think it's
definitely a weird flick but um I think it looks
kind of funny and Colin Farrell what do you know
he's giving me this awful I think the concept
if you don't fall in love at this place, you're
gonna turn into an animal I think that's pretty
cool and I'm interested to see what goes on this
movie because I really can't figure it all out
yet All right. So an intriguing yay for the lobster
from Amanda That was actually I'm just more shocked
because there was a horror film on here that
also starred Nicolas Cage and she did not go
with it. I knew that you were expecting me to
say that one. Interesting. Dan, did you have
any other one that you wanted to mention since
Amanda brought that one up? No, that's the only
one I felt like besides those two, everything
else was just kind of... I have another one.
I'm going to go with a yay for Pay the Ghost.
Nicholas Cage horror film, yay for Amanda. I
was also somewhat intrigued by Demolition. just
because it's Jake Gyllenhaal, so whatever. I'll
watch it. I don't know if I was super intrigued
by the trailer, but it's Jake Gyllenhaal, so
I'll be excited for it regardless. So that would
be the only other one that I would bring up possibly.
But you already just did break it up. Yeah, shut
up. Anyway, so those are the trailers. There's
probably four or five other ones that we didn't
mention that are available on the website as
well. So let us know which ones are those you
are interested in, which one you would give a
yay or which one you would give a nay to. So
we are going to take a quick break and then we're
going to be back for the main attraction, which,
like Dan said in the opening, will be a interesting
new game that we play, and that is called The
Fantasy Filmmaker. So we'll be right back after
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Thanks for sticking with us here on episode 70
of The Cinema Geeks. It is time for our main
attraction, which like we've said is the fantasy
filmmaker and this is kind of how this is going
to work. Basically we have all decided to be
the casting director to create a film and there's
some criteria though as far as how we had to
do this. So we were able to choose any type of
older film that has not been remade in the last,
you know, 10 to 15 years. We could take like
a cartoon or a TV show that's never been made
into a film. We could take a fictional story
from our childhood or from the past that's never
been adapted into a film. Just any type of property
that has, you know, characters that we could
cast with modern day stars, actors, actresses,
etc. And then we needed to have at least Two
or three actors or actresses appearing in that
film and what we're gonna do is we're each gonna
take a turn we All three of us have two films
that we're gonna pitch for you guys That are
listening and then you're gonna be able to go
to the website vote and decide if you're going
to give that film the green lights Or if you're
going to trash it throw it in the trash sheet,
so we're not competing against each other We're
just trying to get you to vote for our film to
give it the green light so we can make it happen
Other than that, I don't think Dan, was there
any other criteria that we had in coming up with
this? No, that's pretty much it. And none of
us know what each other have picked. So there's
always that possibility that, I guess, that one
of us or two of us could pick the same film.
If that happens, that's fine. We'll just have,
I guess, some competing pitches for you, just
like they do in Hollywood with their four Robin
Hoods and this, that, and the other. So if one
of us picks the same one, that's fine. We'll
continue to go on with that and let you guys
vote. Maybe you'll vote both of them up. Or maybe
you'll pick which one is better. So I'm definitely
intrigued to see where you guys have gone with
your list and your kind of setting story, et
cetera. So who wants to start? Who wants to go
first? We need to have a setting and everything?
Well, not necessarily a setting, but I'm just
saying, like, which universe, which story, which
fictional land are we going to, et cetera. So.
Well, I want to go first because I know Dan's
going to blow mine out of the water. OK. Setting
up expectations, I get that. Very, very political,
you know. So before you go, let's first just
give the movie or the thing that's being adapted.
Just let me do my thing. Alright, you got it.
You're going. It's not your first rodeo. It's
not. I'm gonna go with a little bit of a theme
this time. And the theme is water, okay? The
theme is water. The theme is water. My first
movie came out in, the original came out in 1995.
It is known as Waterworld. Remaking Waterworld.
I'm remaking Waterworld. I think I love this
movie way more than most people. I've actually
heard that. Every time I've heard that come up
actually though on a podcast in like the last
year or two, people have said positive things
about it. I kind of, I do have a guilty pleasure
for Waterworld. I don't hate it either. Yeah,
I like it. I think it got trashed. I think it
was that time where it was like Kevin Costner's
gonna get, people no longer wanted him to be
a successful star and they're just like, we're
gonna trash every film he comes out with. In
a future where the polar ice caps have melted
and the earth is almost entirely submerged, a
mutated mariner fights starvation and outlaw
quote unquote smokers, which is what the bad
guys are called, and reluctantly helps a woman
and a young girl to find dry land. So I see a
crossover with Aquaman starring Jason Momoa.
Don't get ahead of them. Okay, so the Mariner
which is played originally by Kevin Costner I'm
going to cast Jai Courtney And the woman that
he helps her name is Helen in the movie she's
played by Janine Triple horn. Yeah, I'm gonna
replace her with Zoe Saldana So, Jai Courtney
is trying to save Zoe Saldana. Yep, yep. In the
water world. There's this little girl, and her
name is Enola. She's played by Tina Marino, something
like that. And I don't know enough about child
actors to not feel creepy and trolling for an
appropriate little girl for this part. So, if
you have any suggestions... tweet him to me because
I need help with that part. But I think that
a remake of Waterworld could definitely be a
good time. Dan, reaction to a new Waterworld?
You know what? I mean, I like the idea of making
a movie that necessarily wasn't a great film.
I mean, you know, I do kind of like it. And you
know what? I mean, if you had like Man -Max,
it could kind of be like the opposite of Man
-Max, you know? It literally just that is what
it was it was that those Basically taking the
same idea about doing the opposite so Who would
be the bad guy that would replace Dennis Hopper?
That's your job to come up with I think it's
going to be who I like Christoph Waltz All right,
you're gonna be the head of the smokers. All
right, I mean I don't know about the Jay Courtney
part, but... You're still false. Acting against
Jay Courtney. She doesn't win an Oscar for that.
That would make him look even... Jay Courtney
with some, like, gills, though. Like, he's, like,
fished out. You know what I mean? Like, buff
as shit. But, like, fished out. Not as much as
maybe, um, Kevin Costner. But maybe a little
more in some areas. Maybe he's got some cool
little gills on his side pecs or whatever he's
got going on. Web feet and hands. Yeah, they
should just go out with it. I need some artists
out there to do a rendering if you look like
the merman from alright dan follow that up follow
-up uh... the new water world what you got but
i'm also remaking a movie from the nineties and
i think maybe really that was even uh... more
rated than that of water world one that looked
as with uh... worst conflict movies ever made
as we're talking about fantastic for but i think
there is potential again for this property that
that deserves a legitimate adaptation and that
it's not on yes the man is already given at the
cream You know, huge in the 90s. He's not nearly
as big as he once was, but I do think there's
a great lore with that character that can be
made well. I mean, the HBO cartoon series was
great. So, you know, go hardcore with it. Make
it R -rated. Now, don't hold back. You know,
CGI is way better than it was back when that
was first made. So, who are you going to... Yeah.
So, the person I would have starring in it as
Al Simmons, who becomes Spawn, is of course none
other than Idris Elba. It'll give fantasy points
to Kevin, but I can live with that. But I think
he fits that mold. He certainly has the presence
to pull that off, so I think he'd be great as
a Spawn character. And he also has like his little
like guide he's that like old mystical guide
that kind of helps them out And you need someone
like that who better than Sam Elliott, you know,
oh yeah So he can play like the kind of similar
to you know, if you've seen Ghost Rider he plays
a similar character Sam Elliott is pretty much
Sam Elliott. The question is like who plays the
villains and well, I think spawn has a lot of
villains in the movie obviously you had the clown
playing you know but I don't know if I'd go that
route there's actually this other villain called
overkill who he's basically this bald dude with
like who's like gigantic he's like a robot kind
of I was thinking maybe you're that character
but if we do go with the clown from the original
not going with the original actor but going with
maybe Jack Lee or Earl Haley who I think is maybe
be a little bit more menacing less funny per
se he can be funny but in a different way but
also no he played the Rorschach from I would
think too, even getting Toby Keble maybe to do
some of the motion. I think maybe those characters
would be better motion captured. So if they do
it, like the violator having motion captured
by Toby Keble because he did such a great job
in Rise of the Planet of the Apes or Dawn of
the Planet of the Apes. And lastly, the director,
because I think that's a key point to it as well.
And it may be an obvious kind of a fanboy choice,
but I'm going to go with Guillermo del Toro.
He has... an understanding of kind of that type
of storyline, you know, he has done things with
like vampires and You know kind of the horror
genre and seeing him in the world of like spawn
and taking his Ideas and using like the designs
of time with Harlan I would really look forward
to see what that would look like So I think you'd
be able to do it. Well, he's already done Hellboy
and blade 2 so he has history with doing comic
book movies previously, so Well, Dan, you did
blow mine out of the water. I feel like all of
what you just said should have come out of my
mouth. But at least it came out of one of ours.
So you know you're getting at least one green
light vote. Nice, nice. Even went with the director.
I didn't even think about that. I'm going to
do something on the fly here. For my first one,
I am going to do something that has somewhat
already been done, but not quite. A few years
back, we had the reboot of the original Star
Trek series with Star Trek and Star Trek Into
Darkness where they cast... William Shatner and
Leonard Nimoy as younger versions of themselves
and we had Zoe Saldana who's gonna appear in
Waterworld in that film. So I decided well why
not do the same thing but let's do it with Star
Trek The Next Generation. So I don't know I'm
gonna lose people that aren't as geeky as the
rest of us probably but hopefully since we're
on the Geekcast Radio Network most people will
be familiar with Star Trek The Next Generation.
I'm gonna do a similar thing here. We're gonna
let J .J. Abrams direct it again, since he did
a decent job with the first group, and we're
gonna pretend that he's not busy with Star Wars
at this time. And again, I'm going the same route.
We're gonna go with a little bit younger versions
of these characters. So we gotta start with,
obviously, Captain Jean -Luc Picard. And I don't
know how well he can do, like, an accent that
would fit the name Jean -Luc Picard, but I feel
like... For me, the perfect choice to play the
younger version of this would be Mark Strong.
Interesting. Yeah, going with a fellow bald -headed
great actor for me. And I think if you hear the
rest of the cast, it might work. I see Amanda
staring at me with a look of disgust. To be fair,
I think Patrick Stewart looks exactly the same,
so we could probably just play it again. With
my second film, I had one that I really wanted
to just... cast the same person but we'll get
to that later. So then I headed to the toughest
casting for me was who would play number one
William Riker and that's a very important character
to the story he's got to have like an amount
of charisma yet I mean he's both immature but
not at the same time like he kind of has that
line going and I don't know I know you wanted
him to be cast as somebody else Dan but I thought
he might work well as Riker and that would be
Matthew Goode. So I have Mark Strong and Matthew
Goode as the two heads, you know, the captain
and the number one in control here. Alright,
we'll keep going with, I got a lot of them, so
bear with me. I got about four more, five more
to go here. And then we had Lieutenant Worf,
the Klingon. Now, obviously, he's going to have
a lot of makeup on and whatnot. He was played
by Michael Dorn in the original series, and I
thought even though he is appearing in Star Wars
since J .J. Abrams is coming back and doing more
Star Trek, he could bring him with him, and that
would be John Boyega. I think he has the right
stature for it, and once you put all the makeup
on and whatnot, I think he could pull off a war
persona there. So then we have Data, the android.
He might look funny as an Android, but he kind
of has I Feel like he has the the personality
to do this to kind of be like very Dry at times,
but logical and things like that So I'm going
with Dom Hull Gleason as as my Android data like
that. That's I can see that I Had it between
him and two other people and I it was really
tough to go back and forth so I decided to fit
one of the other people in as well, but Obviously
he can't be Data, so I was going to go with the
Q, played by John Delancey in the original series,
the main villain that kind of recurred, you know,
half a dozen times. And I was going to go with
Dane DeHaan as Q. I thought about him as Data,
but I thought maybe he would fit a better Q personality.
I think Jim Parsons would have been a perfect
Q. Oh, that's a good one too. I agree. And then
I had Jordy LaForge, and I decided to go with
David Oyelowo as that character. I feel like
he fits in with Matthew Good and Mark Strong
as kind of the three of the head guys there.
And then we had Counselor Troy, who I was gonna
go with, Rooney Mara. That's Whoopi Goldberg,
right? No, Counselor Troy was the one with the
dark hair that Riker liked that could read people's
minds. And who was Whoopi Goldberg? She was the
one in the food place, 10 Forward. I'm sorry.
Anyways, so yeah, Mark Strong, Matthew Good,
Boyega, Don Hogg, Lee Sin, Dane DeHaan, David
O 'Yellow O, and Rooney Mara. I know that's a
lot of star power, maybe too much, but that's
my Star Trek The Next Generation cast. So, you
guys, maybe I went, where did I go wrong with
that? You guys are giving me - No, I think it's
good. I mean, I'm not a huge Star Trek fan, but
my thing is, like, what, it's kind of on the
nose, but what about doing James Baxter Boy as
a - Thought about it, you know, it's kind of
cheating because he's kind of already played
Patrick Stewart already Right. I thought about
it. But yeah, I just got try to go somewhere
else. I also thought about Paul Dano as As data
as well. Yeah, I can see that so Amanda you're
still staring at me blankly. So just move on
to whatever your second movie is the postman
I'm going to do a live action Disney's A Little
Mermaid. I know that that was kind of being tossed
around. It's not done yet though. Nothing's cast
or anything. First off I'm going to start with
Prince Eric. Let's go with Liam Hemsworth since
John Stamos was too old now. To follow that one
up with Triton played by older Hemsworth, Chris
Hemsworth, but maybe made to look slightly older.
Not to look like his two year older brother.
Yeah. I think they look different enough to play
different characters, but I think they fit in
those characters pretty well. And then Ariel,
I think Isla Fisher. I think her looks, her voice,
I think she has kind of that childish demeanor,
but she can kind of get serious at the same time,
too. I think she has a little bit of that innocence
that you need to have in Ariel, but definitely
I think that she can be strong in her own right,
too. And then my final casting is Ursula. I think
Bandy Newton, some sweet -ass CGI can be a bomb,
Ursula. She's actually in... One of the, um,
Chronicles of Rennick movies. And she's not a
nice person. And I think that she played a pretty
cool sinister person. I think she'd be awesome
as Ursula. So no, uh, no flounder? Or, uh...
You know, I didn't... Flotsam and jetsam? I didn't
know how deep I should go. And I'm like, this
is gonna take a while to cast voices. So would
it be musical or would it be more like the...
live action just adaptation? I'm not really cool
on straight musicals. I think there could be
some music in there if you wanted. You know how
this year when we had Cinderella I mean it had
a couple touches of music but it wasn't like
in the woods or whatever so maybe a mix. I just
I couldn't get past I thought about I'm like
well who would play the voice of Sebastian but
I can't I can't get past how awesome the original
was. Wave Brady. Yeah, the original is hard.
You'd have to have almost like, if you were going,
you'd have to go, I don't know. It had to be
like Ziggy Marley or something, I don't know.
Alright, so live action, Little Mermaid beating
them to it. Trying to get this one out before
that so we could have competing ones, whether
they want a green light, whichever one's being
rumored, or if they want yours instead. They
should want mine instead. It's got both Hemsworths.
That's all you need. You should do a face -off
with the Hemsworths. How did I know you were
going to get a Hemsworth or a Tatum in one of
your films? I got Jack Courtney and both Hemsworths.
Alrighty. Dan, what do you have for your second
film? promote was that my personal movie that
was obviously quickly uh... destroyed when it
came out this one was actually and not are nominated
for best picture and i think uh... though some
might find that surprising i think we should
be make godfather no chugging uh... uh... don't
do that uh... but no it's actually uh... you
know there were some classic disaster films in
the seventies and You know some of them don't
hold up all that well, but one I think has potential
to be something kind of cool Is that of the towering
inferno? Starring in back in the day it started
like two of the biggest stars of that time which
were Paul Newman and Steve McQueen You know great
actors, you know Hollywood icons all both in
the same film about basically just a movie building
burning down. I know like in today's day and
age of disaster movies are a lot bigger and bolder
than that but I think there is something to say
about just having some fire on the top of a building
and trying to work your way down and especially
with our technology today I think it could look
really cool even something that could work in
like 3D with some of the sequences they had in
the original film like looking trying to escape
from the top of the building coming down so I
think that would be kind of cool and I think
it was like who can do this you know Ian McQueen
and Paul Newman in the original so you need two
you know actors in their prime two actors that
are highly respected so these are two actors
that I feel like are every time a movie comes
up they get nominated or they get people talking
about them being in it and that's Tom Hardy and
Michael Fassbender uh I figured you know them
together in a film would work. They're obviously
not similar to that of a queen or Paul Newman,
but I think they're both notable and, like I
said, highly respected, so it would be kind of
cool to see them in this, and they could lead
credibility to what would just be a disaster
film. And again, I was thinking about director.
Oh, I should also mention someone else I thought
would be in this would be great, would be Emily
Blunt. As kind of, you know, as a... Thinking
like a female paramedic or something of that
nature just to add in a little bit different
of a flare as well So and then the director I
was thinking of Matt Reeves who has history of
Doing remakes, you know, he did let me in which
was the remake of left the right one in he was
the director of dawn of the planet of the earth
dawn of the planet of the apes and then also
he has just redoing disaster films because he
directed Cloverfield. So I feel like he has the
repertoire and the experience to kind of handle
something like this. So I thought he would bring
it all together. There's no chance that doesn't
get greenlit. Maybe. Maybe. Michael Fassbender
and Tom Hardy maybe. I don't know why people
don't like disaster movies. So that might be
the one thing that holds people back. But I think
it would be kind of cool to see great actors
in a disaster film. That's what actually gonna
be called just gonna be called a fast measure
effect. That's what the name of the bill is All
right for my last film I'm kind of going with
the one that's for the most part I guess triggered
the idea for me of doing this in the first place
and I've talked about one of the castings of
this already before probably on multiple shows
but or on Twitter or Facebook or something so
obviously we're in the day and age of 80s remakes
or movies of properties that were born in the
80s we've had obviously disasterous run with
transformers films we've had a couple g .i. joe
films we've had uh... terrible teenage mutant
ninja turtles film last year so why not wreck
the last one but since i'm in charge i'm going
to try to save it so uh... the one i'm talking
about would of course be masters of the universe
he -man And let's just start with the obvious
one, and I think this should just get the project
greenlit, and I shouldn't have to say anybody
else, and that is Amanda, your man, Chris Hemsworth
as He -Man. You totally stole this from me because
when we watched it, I'm like, if I really made
this movie, it would be Chris Hemsworth all the
way. Oh, I've thought this since I saw Thor.
I'm like, there's nobody that's ever been more
perfect to play He -Man than Chris Hemsworth.
Can you just say that there's never been anybody
more perfect than Chris Hemsworth one more time?
No. We could make Liam Hemsworth play Adam, his
alter ego, so he doesn't look quite as buff,
but no. Chris Hemsworth would be playing He -Man,
and then I was in a world where I was trying
to come up, for days I've been trying to come
up with who would play the supporting cast, because
I had the first one. I had to come up with a
supporting cast, though, and I thought... I was
struggling for a long time and then I had like
a light bulb went off and I'm like where else
currently do you kind of see people that would
be in this world or of this kind of same type
of genre and I started thinking about Game of
Thrones and there was two people that perfectly
would come out of Game of Thrones and into the
Masters of the Universe and one of them would
be a guy named Liam Cunningham who played Davos
Seaworth in Game of Thrones and I think he would
be a perfect man -at -arms. So he would be the
general, so to speak, the strategist for He -Man
and kind of his advisor, so to speak. And then
the other one that would come out of Game of
Thrones would be Rose Leslie Egret. I don't know
if I say that name right, but the redheaded girl
that is... dealing with Jon Snow for a while
there in the one season. And she would play,
of course, Tila. So I think she's perfect. She's
got the red hair like Tila did in the cartoon.
She's kind of like somewhat of an athletic, agile
person. And she already shoots arrows and does
stuff like that. So I think she would fit in
with that. So that's kind of your three main
people, good guys, Chris Hemsworth, Liam Cunningham,
and Rose Leslie. And then to round that off,
I'm going to also add in the sorceress. And I
couldn't think of anybody better to play the
sorceress than Tilda Swinton. You need someone
to play a witch. You get Tilda Swinton. Right.
So Tilda Swinton would be the sorceress. I think
she just has that right balance of it's a good
character, but it's kind of there's something
else to it. There's a mysteriousness to it. And
then I decided also, since a lot of people also
know the series She -Ra, let's go ahead and throw
She -Ra in there. I don't know where she would
come into in the film or what part she would
join up. I know she's not blonde, but I thought,
just based off of a couple things that I've seen
her in, that Alicia Vikander would be a decent
She -Ra to match up with Chris Hemsworth as he
-man. So they would be the twins, I guess, so
to speak. Not that they look anything alike.
um... but of course you need a couple bad people
and the only two that i'm going to cast bad people
you mean villains? villains i wasn't coming up
with that word bad people but i'm only going
to come up with two of them and i'd have to leave
the rest i'm not going to try to do merman and
beastman and all these other ones i'm just going
to go with the one -two punch with Skeletor and
Evil Lynn and for Evil Lynn i was going to go
with uh... Marion Cotillard Because I feel like
she could pull that off pretty bad assly And
then it was down to Skeletor there was a bunch
of different ways I could have gone with this
and this was the one where I was tempted to just
cast the one from the the other live -action
film because I think I think Franklin Langella
was decent even if the writing of that film was
terrible And he's kind of that old and creepy
guy, but I wanted to go a different route since
we have Chris Hemsworth I wanted someone because
in the cartoon what you miss is that Skeletor
and He -Man are physically almost on par with
each other. Even though Skeletor is like a skeleton,
he's still super muscular and buff like Chris
Hemsworth. So I wanted to not go with the old
frail like skeleton looking guy, which I thought
with like Cillian Murphy might have made a good
one of those. Instead I'm gonna go with someone
just as buff probably as Chris Hemsworth, but
I think he could pull off the evilness of Skeletor
and that would be Jason Momoa. So and I guess
also from Game of Thrones, so I get I didn't
realize that until just now So Chris Hemsworth
and Jason Momoa going, you know, good guy bad
guy with that I think he could pull off the evil
look to kind of counter Chris Hemsworth good
look and I Don't know. That's what I have for
my Masters of the universe. What do you think
Amanda? It's intense Pretty intense. Yeah, I
think a couple good picks in there a Couple That's
quality through and through. I think Darrell
Seaworth, solid choice. That's solid. I mean,
I came out of that. I didn't know who was going
to be man -at -arms, and I found him finally.
And oh, I did have a director for this, and his
name is anybody except Michael Bay. I'd also
say producer, though, too, because you don't
want one of them. Yes, he can't be involved in
my project at all. So as casting director, I've
somehow got rights to veto any producers, directors,
et cetera. I do have a funny one that's not serious.
I wanted to make you laugh. Hopefully you'll
laugh at this. Maybe Dan will laugh. What about
the Princess Bride with Bradley Cooper as Wesley
and General Lawrence as Buttercups? Well, I mean,
they do have to be together. Thought about Princess
Bride and I couldn't convince myself to remake
it even if I was in charge of the casting I was
like, I just can't do it. That's why I don't
want this is my serious one Oh man, so those
are the six films that you guys can decide to
greenlight or to throw on the trash heap Dan
What do you think so far of our first venture
into this fantasy filmmaker? I think we've made
better movies and we talked about in news. So
yeah Amanda who's got the best cast going? What's
the best idea? Oh, I'm gonna go with... Jeez,
it's a hard pick between Masters of the Universe
and Spawn. If I'm not picking my own, because
fucking Waterworld would be winning. Some fucking
jet skis, whatever. You got that new cool thing
that you put on your feet. It's like a water
jet pack that can totally be incorporated. All
kinds of cool stuff. I'm surprised you didn't
have Keanu out there. Alright so you have to
let us know I mean it's not a competition amongst
ourselves we just want to see which projects
you give the green light to and if you guys like
this or not we can do it again in the future
if you thought it was stupid let us know and
we'll never do it again as going into the next
section we'd like to take a brief moment to talk
about what we've been watching and Amanda let's
start with your most recent theater experience
that I was not involved with we did the I called
it a split date. I don't know. That was awkward.
You made it weird. We went to the movies and
we each saw a different film. So we went to the
movies and then we split off, even though it
was kind of like a movie date. And she went and
watched Sinister 2. So tell us about Sinister
2. And did you like it? Not like it? What grade
would you give it? All that? The grade that I
give it is a seven and a half out of 10. I think
I enjoyed it. Re -watched the first sinister
to see how it you know matched up with or it
would match up with the second Installment here,
and I think sinister to used a lot of the same
scares As the first one It relied pretty heavily
on jump scare, but in the theater that works
I can't tell you how many times I accidentally
punched myself in the face trying to cover my
eyes super fast But I think that the kill movies,
like the home movies, they kind of stepped it
up a little bit with this one. Increased the
gore factor a little bit. And some of the ghost
transitions and things like that I think were
pretty cool. So I think they had a good execution.
Alright, so a recommendation of Sinister 2 for
those that like horror films? Yes, sir. Alright,
and while you were watching Sinister 2, down
the hall I was watching a walk in the woods with
Robert Redford and Nick Nolte and Emma Thompson,
and obviously the story of Robert Redford basically
plays this individual who decides to try to walk
the Appalachian Trail, which is... probably not
possible for someone of his age and ability at
that point and his wife played by Emma Thompson
tells me that he cannot go unless he finds someone
to go with him and after all of his other friends
turn him down someone he doesn't even invite
Nick Nolte old acquaintance calls him up and
they end up going on this adventure together
and I don't know if anyone's seen Nick Nolte
in the last five to ten years but you can picture
him trying to hike the Appalachian Trail and
figure out that there's going to be, obviously,
some humor involved in that. But I guess my main
takeaway from this film is, you know, I appreciated
Nick Nolte. I thought he was entertaining. I
think the acting was fine and the scenery was
great and everything. But it's just not something
that I haven't seen done already a dozen times
as far as, you know, trying to like find yourself
for the meaning of life or midlife crisis or
coming to terms with your aging process, et cetera.
So I guess I just couldn't recommend this over
a lot of other things. movies that have done
the same thing. I would probably give this one
a six out of ten, and I think that's being slightly
generous, but it's worth it just to see if Nick
Nolte can get through the whole thing without
having a heart attack. Which is something he
amazes me every day in real life. Dan, what about
you? What was something you've watched this week?
Well, I did check out Fantastic Four, the one
2015 Josh Trank film. Here. Brave, brave man.
Yeah, the highly acclaimed Fantastic Four. I
really think on the box, if Fox was... Had some
guts they would put on the box. It's like it's
not that bad like as the quote I think that's
kind of my takeaway is that That's kind of like
what I thought I'd like it's not that bad I wouldn't
put it as one of the worst comic book movies
like I think it's better than something like
Jonah Hex or Catwoman or Electra to me. It's
not nowhere near that level I mean it is has
issues with it it and I know a lot of people
saying it really kind of falls apart in the last
act and There like I think it would work really
well if you told me it was like a TV pilot I
think it would actually make it seem a lot better
especially the special effects would actually
look not nearly as bad in some instances, but
There are like elements. I did like I like the
idea of treating the idea of getting superpowers
almost as like a horrific act and there's one
scene where you kind of see Mr. Fantastic, you
know Reed Richards with his arms like extended
like on like an operating table and it's really
disturbing and I really like that image like
it looked kind of cool But you know that there
are things here and there the characters themselves
are super underdeveloped the relationships make
no sense and times and also hate the idea of
Really smart characters making really stupid
decisions with real little to no motivation Which
is kind of the whole reasoning behind them getting
their powers per se. It's like why they putting
themselves in a situation to begin with, it just
seems kind of illogical. So that was kind of
my problem, and the characters themselves seemed
a little ill -defined in their relationships.
no one has any chemistry at all, to the most
part, even like the actors. And I'm a huge Miles
Sillage fan, I've loved everything he's done
so far, but I think he just doesn't work as Reed
Richards. He never convinced me he was comfortable
in that role. He seemed just out of place, like
he just seemed like he wasn't able to convey
being this intelligent person or like, you know,
he... or the awkwardness never seemed to work
and it was it was kind of weird the way they
treated this character and took some of the decisions
he made it's almost like he was very unheroic
at times and i kind of get that but i again it
just they never really went anything and went
anywhere with it so it i think yeah you you could
see the like the framework of what could have
been a good movie but without like a strip script
that you know would fill in some of these issues
plot wise and character wise and with a finale
that just kind of just seems to come out of nowhere
and this is just like things just start happening
just because and once you have a villain that
can literally make people explode just by looking
at them it's like where like what and how do
you stop this guy like it makes no sense now
it's like like he can just do everything he can
so yeah it it has things i didn't hate it i didn't
like I was never bored, even though there wasn't
much action. I was just interested in the approach,
but the execution was pretty pathetic. Yeah,
I think what they did was good with the things
I didn't think they would do well with. I thought
they displayed the powers actually fairly well,
as far as what each one could do and their abilities.
I thought they showed that decent, but man, you
hit the nail on the head there with... The character
development and the decisions made with no motivation
or it doesn't make sense towards that character,
especially involving Dr. Doom. That was one of
the worst handled characters I think I've seen
in a long time as far as a superhero film. And
spoiler alert, I guess, for Fantastic Four, so
don't listen if you haven't seen it and you're
really dying to see it. But the climactic battle
scene is... So rushed and so like they each try
individually and fail So then they try together
and it's like first time success movie over like
What is going on with that? And I just I just
didn't understand that at all But I do question
you saying that you've liked everything that
miles teller has ever done Because I think you're
blocking out the divergent series. Oh Yeah, I
forgot he was in the yeah, he's also in the remake
of The remake of Footloose too, but he actually
wasn't too bad He was actually kind of fun in
that movie. But yeah, he that's a good point.
I see incorrect All right. What score would you
give Fantastic Four? Oh, man, I'd probably give
it like a four or three four out of ten Amanda
what did you give that one? Let's just give the
Fantastic Four a four. There you go. Makes sense.
So three fours for the Fantastic Four from us
for 2015 not rave reviews, but Like Dan said
it's not The worst film that's come out this
year or the worst superhero film I don't think
there was definitely elements there that could
have worked It just seemed like they rushed through
a bunch of stuff and there was no character development
whatsoever in that film. So Alright, let's see
Amanda. Did you have one other one that you wanted
to talk about? I know we saw You want to talk
about the one from? On demand that we saw that
you cared about quite a bit and I liked even
more I guess I can give my thoughts on Z for
Zachariah. The grade that I gave it was an 8
out of 10. I think that this was a really intriguing
film. I think that some of Margot Robbie's motivations
behind what she did were confusing and I didn't
really follow her process very well. But I think
that the... I don't remember, Dan hasn't seen
this. I'm trying to be spoiler -free. I think
that the whole triangle that's going on between
the three characters really had me hooked from
the get -go. I think that the setup for the film,
too, how you don't get so much information is
also really intriguing. I might have wanted a
little bit more. I don't need like a whole backstory
or like newspaper clippings from you know the
fallout or whatever happens but I would have
liked to know a little bit more of what happened
and where everybody went but as far as this movie
gives you a lot of innuendo and hint and it's
so much is done with just the looks of the characters
give each other that It's it's really fun watch.
I think the acting performances in this movie
are pretty hard to beat all three people do phenomenal
jobs I'm not going to go into it too much if
you want to hear my thoughts in depth Check out
the latest true bromance podcast episode where
high row Barry and I go into great detail Into
this they were trying to keep the episode at
an hour or so, and I think we ended up at like
two hours. And if you get them talking about
Margot Robbie, there's no way. But my grade for
this was 9 out of 10. It's one of my favorite
films of the year so far. I know I'm higher on
it than most, but I really, really enjoyed Z
for Zachariah. So definitely glad we checked
that out on demand. Dan, what else did you see?
I also saw a documentary that's currently now
streaming on Amazon Prime. It's actually one
I'm kind of looking forward to checking out,
and I think it's one you might like as well,
Kevin. I'm not sure about Amanda. And that is,
it's called I Am Big Bird. It's the story of
the Carol Spivey story. And it's interesting
because what's kind of intriguing about it is
that it's a documentary that is kind of void
of controversy and high drama. It's not like
he lives a life that is you would be unexpected
or one that is supremely complicated. But I think
what makes it work is that it's just this guy
with this unique passion and these kind of moralistic
ideals that I find intriguing. kind of a welcome
change of pace to just watch a movie about what
is legitimately just a kind of a nice man, like
a cool dude, and his story behind it. And there
are some struggles here and there for sure. You
can see how, you know, with the increasing of
characters like Elmo, how you see him not nearly
getting the recognition as he once was, and kind
of him trying to come to grips of becoming Big
Bird and what that... undertook but overall those
stories are really few and far between it's just
just kind of what he did and it's kind of a snapshot
of the man behind one of the most iconic characters
ever it's not particularly deep per se but There
is this nice little storyline about him and like
a kind of reunion near the end, which is kind
of little heartwarming So I would definitely
recommend it there is like a similar draw and
documentary about which is now really kind of
tainted about the guy who did was behind Elmo
and I think this is along the same lines, but
a little bit better just because it it just seems
to Really give you a better idea of who this
person is as a person. So Yeah, I think there's
a lot of interesting stuff actually in the world
of the Muppets if you kind of go back into and
I think that's a rich history with with Carol
as well as with Frank Oz Jim Henson and a few
of those other Jerry Nelson and a couple of those
other people that basically were around for Three
four decades doing that stuff. I think there's
a lot to it and there's a lot of interesting
stuff that goes behind the scenes with those
shows. I heard about this as soon as I actually
heard about it as it was being made and et cetera,
but I have not had a chance to check it out,
but I definitely will. What grade would you give
this one? I'd probably give it about a 7 out
of 10. Specifically, it's not groundbreaking
in that end. It's a nice watch. It's not going
to give you something you're not expecting, I
would say, but if you have interest in the subject
matter, I think you enjoy it. All right, we had
one that is actually not from 2015 that I think
we both wanted to touch on briefly here, and
that would be our first watch of the 2012 film
Seven Psychopaths. We saw that recently on Netflix
or Amazon, on Amazon, streaming for free there
if you have Prime. And man, this was... a fun
film, I think is the best way for me to put it.
I'm obviously starring Colin Farrell, Christopher
Walken, Sam Rockwell, Woody Harrelson, and Amanda,
I'll let you go first, but what was your takeaway
from Seven Psychopaths from Martin McDonough?
It was fun. I had a really good time with it.
It was one that I kept playing the guessing game
with. Um, trying to really figure everything
out that was going on. Um, it was something that
you could kind of, um, think your way through,
but you didn't have to think too much. It also
put a lot in your face as far as like action
and, um, some comedic moments and, um, some pretty
awesome performances from a kind of star -studded
cast. So I would give it like a seven and a half
eight. I, yeah, maybe it's just because we're
doing the Tarantino retrospective, but this is
definitely something that is very much kind of
taking some things from what Tarantino has done.
Like, it had a little bit of that feel as you
kind of go throughout the film. But, man, I actually
really enjoyed this. I'd probably even give it
a little bit higher than you. I'd probably give
it up to a seven and a half, eight, maybe eight
out of 10. I just said that. I thought you said
seven, seven and a half. Well, I'm straight I'm
soundly at eight then But yeah, I thought this
was hilarious at times Some head dialogue was
was hilarious some of that just random things
It's described as a black comedy crime metafilm
and I guess I'm a fan of those So eight out of
ten for me Dan. Have you seen seven psychopaths?
Yeah, I was in my top ten comedies of the decade
so far That's right. I knew it was. I knew I'd
heard you say it on one of those lists. I just
couldn't remember which one it was. But yes,
I mean, we missed out by not having seen it before
that probably because it might have made my list
for sure. Dan, you saw another documentary as
well, correct? Yeah, I saw one more and it's
interesting you and Trooper Romance because I
think they actually interviewed the director
of this one and it's Dogfight, which is also
currently streaming on Netflix. And I overall
enjoyed it. I do think it's, for those that don't
know, it's a movie about kind of this, you know,
a backyard fight culture. taking place in Florida.
The main character of this guy called Dada 5000
and he was like a bodyguard for Kimbo Slice and
it's kind of like the... Why did Kimbo Slice
need a bodyguard? I don't know, I guess that's
a good question. But that's kind of the part
of it too where it's like he worked with Kimbo
Slice but he says he was actually a better fighter
than him and we never got his break and so it's
this guy but he ends up putting on like a promotion
in like his mom's or aunt's backyard and it's
just like you know unsanctioned fighting going
on and people have... That's kind of how Kimball
slices got discovered and other fighters have
also got discovered from this backyard fighting
and become professional fighters so it kind of
goes into it and I I guess my one my biggest
complaint is that I wish it focused more on the
fighters and less on the fights because there
there are times where you are watching the entire
fight take place and there's a lot of them and
the thing is like At a point you're just watching
bad fighting or you're just watching amateur
fighting and I as someone who's not I mean, I
enjoy MMA to a certain extent, but at a point,
I'm like, I'd rather know who that person is
before you got to that point. And you get little
tidbits here and there. I just thought they could
really go in more depth, or also just... there
is i think other things to explore here regarding
how the the community itself used this fighting
or the police because there are some like uh
there's like a relationship with the police where
at times it seems like they actually feel like
it's a good thing for the community or is it
really or even getting an opinion of those that
are in the professional ranks of backyard fighting.
There's one person who does give something, but
I think there's an interesting idea that where
they're saying they shouldn't be doing it, but
yet they're still getting people from these fights
to then headline. So it just seemed kind of to
be kind of hypocritical on that end. But I think
it turns around in the second half where it ends
up. changing focus a little bit where it does
get the idea we're just focusing on the Dota
5000 and his story, which I think it increases
it. So I do like documentaries that focus on
subcultures and this does that, but like I mentioned,
the thing that hinders it for me is just exploring
it a little bit further. I just actually listened
to that interview that they did with the director.
What score would you give this one, Dan? I would
give it a six out of 10. Have you seen any of
his other documentaries? I have seen Cocaine
Cowboys, which is a great documentary. I'd give
that 8, 9 out of 10. It does what it doesn't.
It could be more of a budget issue with Dogfight
because it seems like they didn't have much of
one, which could be the reasoning behind it,
but Cocaine Cowboys is quite the interesting
story too. I don't think we're going to go over
too much more, but I do want to at least allow
us to give grades on the other films that we've
seen from 2015 in case people are keeping up
with that. I don't think we talked about the
gift, but Amanda, what score would you have given
the gift? I really enjoyed the gift. I gave it
an 8 out of 10. And I would probably be slightly
under that. Probably like a seven out of ten
for me, but I still thought out of all the crap
That's out in the theater right now that it was
a decent bright spot. I guess you could say we
also saw Aloha, and I gotta say I'm somewhat
in agreement with JD from in session I think
people may have been a little overly harsh on
it. I don't think it's a great film by any means
I think me personally I would probably give it
a Six out of ten five and a half out of ten.
I mean, I don't think it was utter crap Like
everybody seemed to say it was what would you
give that one? I think I was pleasantly surprised
surprised by this film I I liked it a lot more
than I thought I was going to it's definitely
not the genre that I Normally am attracted to
but I give it a seven out of ten Alright, and
then you had already seen it and talked about
it earlier in the year, but I just recently caught
up with it follows I actually did it. You know
it's it's the type of I guess quote -unquote
horror film that that's not too bad for me I
don't know if I'd go as far as some people were
going about it, and calling it maybe the best
film on their halfway year list and things like
that. I'm not quite as high as everybody else
on it, but I still would probably give it a 7
out of 10, so I still think it was good. What
did you give it, Follows Beckham? I think 8 out
of 10. And then two final ones that we saw. We
saw Spring based on the recommendation from our
friends Hiro and Barry at the True Bromance podcast.
They were ranting and raving about Spring and
they had checked it out on Netflix or Amazon
and they said everybody else should do that too
and we're like we usually agree with these cats
so we'll check it out and we watched it and Amanda
what would you give Spring? I don't even know,
I'm gonna say three and a half, four, but I fell
asleep, so I don't even know what the ending
was. I think I really should have tried to stay
awake harder than I did to see the end, but from
what I was seeing, I just wasn't with it. It
seemed cool, it was a cool idea, but I just couldn't
get enough of what I was digging out of it to
stay into it. And I will match you and go with
a 3 out of 10 for that. I don't quite see what
Barry and Hiro saw in that film. So maybe I just
missed it. And then the final one that we saw
from this year that was getting all kinds of
great reviews as well was Clouds of Sils Maria
and Amanda. I'll let you go first again. I gave
this one a 3 out of 10 as well simply because
Kristen Stewart actually was in a role that I
enjoyed her in. I thought that she actually did
pretty well. Everything else, I didn't give a
shit about in this movie. I could not stay with
it. There was nothing relatable to me. I just...
I couldn't get motivated to finish this film.
I mean, it's got a lot working for it, and it
has a lot of potential, I think, and it sets
things up in a way that you're... I was at least
invested in it. Like, I was... Interested to
see where it was going. I was following it I
wanted to see you know what was gonna transpire
between these characters and what was gonna happen
and what kind of a Commentary they were making
on You know the art that they're commentating
on but I just felt like completely let down by
the end of the film I just It may be if the last
half hour the last act would have been different
I would have you know put this in a 7 -8 range
if it was like super great at the end and left
me with like some type of moment of Inspiration,
but I just felt completely let down by the last
20 to 30 minutes So I'm gonna also give this
one. I'll give it a 4 out of 10 So it's disappointed
in clouds of cells As fact as from the acting
standpoint and from the their ability to set
things up and keep me interested for the most
part until that last 20 minutes I was at least
entertained. I wasn't it wasn't like I hated
my experience I just was disappointed with what
they did with everything that they had set up
and I was hoping for something more at the end
so So that is it for the films we saw from 2015
and 2012 2012 and in the case of the 7 cycle
pass This is the time where we usually take a
look forward at what's coming out and usually
we only pick one thing But I think we're gonna
do it a little bit different this time. We're
gonna pick one thing that we can buy And then
one movie we can go see. So let's start with
the Blu -ray releases for this next Tuesday coming
up. We have a whole bunch of different stuff.
So it depends, I guess, on what route, what direction
you want to take. We have a bunch of TV seasons
coming out for comic book fans. You have Agent
Carter coming out on Blu -ray season one, Agents
of S .H .I .E .L .D. season two, and The Flash
season one. So you can go with one of those.
We got some 40th anniversaries with Rocky Horror
Picture Show and Dog Day Afternoon, if you want
to get an anniversary collection Blu -ray. We
got the Robin Williams, I guess, memorial Blu
-ray coming out here with the Jumanji. Then we
have another childhood favorite for some, the
Indian in the Cupboard, current hit, no, current
letdown, Pitch Perfect 2 combo pack. You got
Zathura. Space Adventure or you can go with the
Criterion collection. We had Breaker Morant I'm
probably saying that wrong. Mr. Johnson and Moonrise
Kingdom on Criterion collection Dan if you could
only buy one of those things on that list, which
would you purchase? I'd go dog day to afternoon
because I love that would be so That's all right
going Amanda. What are you buying? Alright, I'm
torn. I did like Moonrise Kingdom, but I'm gonna
copy Dan and go with Dog Day Afternoon 40th Anniversary
because I think that would be the right version
of that. Yeah, I already owned Moonrise Kingdom,
so it's kind of a cheat, so. Right. Alright,
and then we talked about it already a little
bit, but now we can only pick one. So theater
releases right now, we got Pawn Sacrifice, which
is currently getting an 82 % on Rotten Tomatoes.
Black Mass, which is at 84. Everest, which is
at 76. Captive which does not have enough ratings
to have a number. Sicario which is at an astounding
94 and Maze Runner at 61. Amanda which one are
you going to see? You can only see one. Sicario.
She's going to see Sicario. Dan, what about you?
I've been actually trying to make this decision
and I work down to this. I think Sicario is probably
be the best movie, but I feel like the one that
would benefit most from a theater experience
would probably be Everest, so I'm leaning towards
that. I'm not saying it would be the best movie,
but I think seeing that in IMAX would be kind
of cool. You make a good argument there, Dan.
Definitely make a good argument for the movie
going experience. It is probably the one that
you get the most out of from the big screen.
I'm agreeing with Amanda on the fact that Sicario
looks like it's probably going to be the best.
But damn it, I'm intrigued to see what Johnny
Depp does and if he falls on his face or not.
So I'll try to be different and I'll go see Black
Mask so we can all come back and report on our
individual films. So all right, let's see. Anything
else that we need to talk about movie -wise,
Amanda, before we close the show up for this
week? I don't think so. Dan, anything movie -related
you've got to get off your chest? Ah, not at
the moment in time, no. Alright, so reminder
to go check out the latest Tarantino episode
and help us vote on which director we will do
next. You only have a limited amount of time
to vote on that, so please do. And then look
out for our final episode where we kind of do
some fun Tarantino stuff and let you know on
which director will be the winner of that poll.
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