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of the Geekcast radio network. Don't tell Megatron.

Today on episode 67 of The Cinema Geeks, we react

to a heavy dose of Star Wars news and rumors.

We discuss what could be next in the Nightmare

on Elm Street, Alien, and Predator franchises.

We react to the trailers for Life, Victor Frankenstein,

The Martian. And the hateful eight. And we go

over two weeks worth of what we've been watching,

including our thoughts on Straight Outta Compton,

Fifty Shades of Grey, and Terminator Genisys.

All that and more coming up on episode 67 with

The Cinema Geek. That's right. It's episode 67

and we are the cinema geeks. I am one of your

cinema geeks Kevin optimists solo and joining

me as Usual is movie revolt Dan. Hello. Hey,

how's it going? Not too bad and our third cinema

geek at Hard Candy Mandy. Hello. What happened?

And we're back. We kind of gave you a extra long

Super special episode last time a mega sized

episode that I think ran uh... to point some

than hours so uh... without you guys might need

a couple weeks to digest that one so outside

of giving you are quentin tino episodes uh...

we kind of had a week off of the regular show

also gave you guys are ample time to get your

votes in on who had the best film time capsule

and we'll go over that a little bit later give

you give a little bit a little bit more time

for people get their last second votes and not

that they can do it now because this is a recording

but um and then we'll go over that towards the

end but as we start every weekend just before

we get to the box office i'll give you guys a

little heads up we're not going to do necessarily

a main attraction so to say this week We have

kind of two weeks worth of headlines and trailers

and everything that Dan and Amanda and myself

have been watching over the last couple weeks.

So we're going to just get into all of that and

try to keep your runtime of this episode a little

bit lower than the last one. So it won't be a

main attraction, but we'll be back next time

with something special for you guys. So a couple

weeks ago we did make some box office predictions.

I don't know if you guys remember what they are,

but I do. And it was a good week for our predictions.

Last time we recorded, Dan, you had the first

Rotten Tomatoes prediction. Yes, I predicted

that. I thought Man of Uncle would score rotten,

but I was incorrect. You said it would receive

higher than 50, though. I said it was in between

50 and 60 percent. I thought it would be rotten,

but not very much so. So I was right for a little

bit and then not so much anymore. What's it currently

at, do you know? I will pull it up real quick.

See how close you are. Because you were darn

close there for a while. And then Amanda and

I both had box office predictions. Amanda had

Fantastic Four coming in in the second place

spot, which it did. And I had Mission Impossible,

Rogue Nation. staying at the number one spot,

which it did. It is currently at sixty -six percent.

Not just six percent off. Four or five reviews

and I would have gone my way. Right. And then

as far as what happened in the last weekend,

since we didn't make predictions for it, we'll

still go over kind of what the status was kind

of to set the stage for whatever we're going

to be. making predictions this week and came

coming in at number one smashing the box office

this last weekend the previous weekend was straight

out of Compton bringing in sixty million dollars

in its first opening weekend Mission Impossible

dropped down to the second spot bringing in 17

million the man from uncle was the third spot

in its opening weekend with 13 million I think

somewhat disappointing for those behind that

project. Fantastic Four took the leap down to

the fourth spot, fittingly, and pulled in $8

million, just giving it just over $40 million

so far in two weeks. And then the gift. came

in at the number five spot with six million so

anything from this past weekend that stood out

for you Dan or anything that's shaping your prediction

for next week? I just wanted to make note that

just to talk about how big of a failure Fantastic

Four really is and and that's the fact that currently

in 13 days it's made 45 million dollars in 13

days Green Lantern made 94 million dollars and

people thought Green Lantern was like a bomb

so it's like twice the bomb. of Green Lantern,

so just to put in perspective of that much. And

that's with a good cast, and man. Yeah, yeah.

And also, which is kind of weird, but 2015's

already shaking up to be a pretty big year for

movies. And did you know, I didn't realize this

until now, or a few weeks ago, but Furious 7,

just looking at year -wise, if Furious 7 came

out last year, it would be the number one movie

of the year. of 2014. So the top three movies

this year have all made more money than anything

that came out last year, which is kind of crazy.

And like I said a couple months back, this definitely

is going to be a record -setting year when we

get everything said and done. The only question

is, will it eke out a few more 200 million mark

to break that record too? But it's already going

to have the most films to make 300, 400, and

500 million, I think, ever. So it's kind of crazy.

I think you had it right though, Dan, on your

last episode of Talking in Circles. I think you

mentioned it on for Fantastic Four. Apparently

the only people that are going to see that are

people that had to go see it to review it. Exactly.

The only people that are watching it are people

who reviewed it and that's about it. And maybe

the cast. And that's only because they were forced

to. It was funny listening to you guys because

especially on Talking in Circles, you guys are

all very much in tune with... comic books and

superheroes, etc. And listening to all three

of you just completely not even show a 1 % interest

in watching that film was very telling. Yeah,

no, not at all. And like I said, I've been a

champion of the film because I thought it would

be good. I thought I had a lot of faith in the

cast and director. I haven't seen it, so I can't

say if it's as bad as people say, but that kind

of shows you. Just the marketing, the trailers

have just... Uh, we're so dull to me. I didn't

even bother. I'm like, I'll wait. I'll waste

my money to go see a movie I probably not going

to like. Yeah, that is for sure. It currently

holds an 8 % on Rotten Tomatoes. That is... That's

hard to do. That's legitimately difficult to

do. Like, I think, you know, Paul Blart had the

higher... A six. He had a six at some point.

It's competing with Paul Blart. Yeah, yeah. That

tells us something. man and i do think though

sometimes there are those movies that people

have their claws out for and they're just ready

to hate and i think fantastic four was one and

uh lone certain not much fire but uh the lone

ranger was a last year two years ago i thought

that was a movie too that like it got they got

killed but i didn't think it was nearly as bad

as people made it out to be i didn't think it

was a good movie but i think there's sometimes

that happens where it's just we we want that

like the bomb of the summer and once it just

gets piled on so Yeah, it's definitely joining

a very mixed last couple months because we've

had a whole bunch of bombs as far as Rotten Tomatoes

go, and we've had a bunch of certified freshmen.

This is kind of interesting because we've had

Fantastic Four tanked, Vacation tanked, Pixels

got terrible reviews. But we do have some very

favorable Rotten Tomatoes scores for Mission

Impossible, Straight Outta Compton, Ant -Man,

and even The Gift, which surprised me. Like I

said, it's sitting at 93%, which I did not predict

early on in the year when I saw the first...

trailer or spot for that. Definitely a little

bit of everything out there. Amanda, what are

you thinking for as far as looking back at this

last week? Any surprises straight out of Compton

that held off Man From Uncle and Mission Impossible

take the number one spot? No, I'm not surprised

by that at all. I mean, it was a great movie.

I think the marketing and kind of the target

audience plus everybody who was outside the target

audience that still found themselves interested

in the story, I think it definitely paid off.

And I know that there's a lot of buzz around

it, so it doesn't really surprise me what the

lineup was here on the box office. Yeah, I think

there's a lot of people that were super familiar

with the content that wanted to see more about

it, and then there was a lot of people, you know,

I heard JD on In Session talking about it, and

it kind of fits for me, too, of someone that

knew who the people were. and maybe knew a couple

songs or some of the stuff, but didn't really

know anything about the story or the group or

anything that went into it. So, you know, we

were intrigued, you know, just to more of like

an almost an educational standpoint of finding

out what all happened. So I think it's appealing

to a lot of different groups. Who wants to go

first for a prediction for next week? We have,

as far as releases go, we have Sinister 2, we

have Hitman Agent 47, And we have American Ultra,

as far as I guess those would be the names. And

it's a cavalcade of amazing films this weekend,

isn't it? Actually, I'm going to go with kind

of a random prediction. And I'm going to try

to figure out, I'm hoping I can even figure out

if this is true or not, but this is going to

be my guess. And that is, this will be the worst

weekend box office wise of the year so far. Just,

you know, straight out of Compton, I feel like

it'll drop 50 % because typically that's what

happens. So it'll still be, but I think everything

else coming this year, coming out this week seems

to be, you know, not very buzzed about. Like

I think the highest thing in Rotten Tomatoes

is like 20%. And I just, people are going back

to school, you know, August has a slowdown to

begin with. So my guess, my prediction is this

is the worst box office weekend of the year so

far. I'm going to piggyback off of that because

my prediction was actually very similar. I'm

going to be the fool though and actually put

a number on it. He'll probably oust me on that

one. I could have gone something easy and said,

like, Trainwreck's going to pass 100 million

because it's at 97 right now. But I'm actually

going to go with a combination total of the top

five at the box office this last weekend. And

it's going to be very similar to what you're

saying, Dan, with a very bad weekend. And my

prediction is going to be that if you combine

the top five this weekend at the box office,

it's going to be less than 55 million total.

Wow. Brave, right? Yeah, so less than 55 million

total if you combine all of the top five films

just from this next weekend. So that would definitely,

I think, I haven't checked the numbers to see

if that would place it at the worst weekend,

but it has to be. If it's not, I don't remember

a weekend being that bad. So, Amanda, what are

you thinking? I am going to lock down the top

five, I think. So... Sinister 2, I believe, is

going to come in at number 1. We're going to

put Hitman, Agent 47, number 2. Think Man from

Uncle is going to hold the number 3 spot. Mission

Impossible is going to hold number 4. And then

Fantastic 4 will bring in number 5. No. Straight

out of Compton. Oh, I meant straight out of Compton.

No, look. Let's put straight out of Compton still

at number 1. So then Sinister's 2. Hitman's 3.

Man From Uncles 4, Mission Impossible is going

to be 5, so I think Handstick 4 is going to drop

out of the top 5. Alright, so that is, like we've

been saying, it's a stellar list of movies to

see. If you've already seen a couple of the good

ones, there's not much to see right now. You'll

have to try to catch The Gift, I guess, or Mr.

Holmes, or something that's only playing on one

theater screen, wherever you're going to see

your movies. Dan, any other commentary as far

as Box Office Rotten Tomatoes go? I got nothing.

All right, so and like Dan said the the numbers

are not good for the stuff that's coming out

hum at all so Just choose wisely I guess folks

when you're when you're going to the theater

this weekend. Yeah, maybe don't go Save your

money and wait to see some of these because you're

about to enter a season where you're gonna want

to see a whole bunch of film so Maybe maybe save

that for the next time out there because yeah,

like you said Hitman currently has a 6 % on Rotten

Tomatoes Whatever, I'm excited for that, I think

it was good Sinister 2 has a 4 and American Ultra

has a 39 Yeah, so Apparently only stoners vote

on Rotten Tomatoes Alright Alright, let's get

into the news. There's a whole bunch of it, so

we'll try to pick the best stuff here and some

stuff that I'm sure some of the people at GeekCast

Radio will be interested in. It's all about franchises

and reboots and sequels because everybody loves

talking about that stuff, right? Nope, nobody's

talking about it. Alright, let's start with Nightmare

on Elm Street because it was already rebooted

once, right? Yep, with Jackie O 'Haley as playing.

Yes, now we're gonna go for a second reboot so

Dan, what do you think? I mean, I'm not gonna

go into the article too much. I'm not super burst

on The whole nightmare on Elm Street franchise,

but getting a second reboot a good idea bad idea.

Well, I mean I don't know I think it's A bad

idea. I don't know it like horror films tend

to tend to every so often you get a decent reboot

here and there but uh the reboot that came out

a few years ago wasn't i don't think it was awful

it was it was okay it uh jackie earl hailey i

thought was a decent freddy he was a little bit

more sadistic and into that franchise kind of

got more comedic as it went on uh i don't know

i i feel like lot of these franchises are just

kind of coming on like everyone we've seen so

far tends to do poorly the friday the 13th the

halloween they try to keep them going but they're

just i don't think the audience is there as much

and i just think that they're not really coming

in winning with any new ideas you kind of get

stuck with just trying to recreate the old ones

so let it go i would say i would i would go thumbs

down we don't really need it i'm also not a huge

Nightmare on Elm Street fans. I don't know if

those that are would be excited to see it done

right again Maybe if they got back the original

guy who did Freddy maybe it'd be better Yeah,

I'm gonna echo that but like I said, I'm not

very very well versed in The franchise at all

nor am I a huge horror fan. I mean, I remember

somewhat I guess enjoying that one as a kid way

back when but I don't remember watching the first

reboot and I have no interest in seeing the second

one, but Amanda, you are a horror fan. Yes, sir.

So excited or not about this? I'm excited. I

didn't mind the reboot. I own it. I've rewatched

it several times. I think that Jackie was a great

Freddy. And I would even... not be opposed for

this reboot, this second reboot, to have him

in it again. I mean, I thought he was awesome.

I think it was everything else that was a little

watered down. I think it had some really cool

scenes, definitely, but I don't think that the

scare factor really lived up to the Nymer and

Elm Street name, so I just hope that they bring

the pain with this next one. Bring the pain.

Now, Dan... I remember you were on an episode

of, I believe it was True Bromance, when you

guys were talking about the best and the worst

movie weapons. And wasn't it Freddy's gloves

that came up on that? I can't remember. What

side of the debate were you on on that one? I

probably was on the pro side for it because they're

kind of like Wolverine's gloves. So I feel like

I'd be obligated to say they're good. Definitely

an interesting... I mean, not the most long -range

weapon, but I feel like it's effective in what

he's trying to do with it. It's just creepy.

Yeah, I agree. I always kind of that was one

of the appeals to me was his old get up with

the claws You know and you could use it to you

know, if you're have some toss a salad you got

you got it there. It's multi -purpose Yeah, it's

like you got to get him and Wolverine and Edward

Scissorhands all like in a room and see who's

Like a wreck it Ralph, yeah, they mean it like

a waterbed Take out their anger. Um, all right

moving on to the next headline for months, for

years. This guy has said that he had no interest

in this and he would not be involved. But now

we're getting the article here that Bill Murray

has confirmed an appearance in the Ghostbusters

reboot. What do you make of the 180 that he's

taken on here, Dan? Well, to be fair, he said

he wouldn't be in Ghostbusters 3. He didn't necessarily

say he wouldn't be in a reboot. So I guess maybe

that's the difference. I don't know. There's

a lot of crazy stories surrounding Bill Murray

and like how and when he says yes to projects

and how like he has this answering machine that

like you call and that and he listens to it occasionally

and apparently one time he Only said yes to a

project to do in Garfield because he thought

it was written by the Cohen brothers But it was

actually Joel Cohen who was not related to them

So there's all these crazy stories of why he

says yes to different things. So I mean, I'm

okay with it. Like I feel like that Ghostbusters

remake has been getting killed online for everything

it does but I mean who knows what it's gonna

be is it gonna be like a cameo where you can't

even tell who he is I know he talked about playing

wanting being a ghost is it gonna be something

like that so I mean maybe he just read the script

and he thought it was funny so and it's not by

Dan Aykroyd maybe that was the key I think that's

probably really what it's about So, yeah, it

looks like we're going to get a couple cameos

from the old guys. I mean, I don't think it can

be a bad thing. Amanda, will his cameo in Ghostbusters

be better or worse than his cameo in Zombieland?

Spoiler alert, my bad. I don't know if I can

judge that yet, not seeing it, but I feel like

Bill Murray could quite possibly be the king

of... cameos, and I really don't care what he's

doing in it. I just feel like he needs to be

a part of it. If he was a ghost and that was

his cameo, I think I would eat that up. Alright,

so you have to let us know if you're excited

or not for Bill Murray joining the crew. I don't

see how anybody would say necessarily that's

a bad thing, but so thumbs up from most of us

I believe on that. Going on to a headline that

I didn't think I would read as far as the reboots

and all this type of stuff, but... That's probably

why it's happening because it's always the stuff

that you would last choose to Have rebooted if

you were the one in charge. So Here's the article

Zac Efron in talks to join Dwayne the Rock Johnson

for Baywatch reboot Dan react No, no, no, um

Why God why But then I'm thinking about it. I'm

like, you know, Zac Efron was actually pretty

funny neighbors And I thought 21 Jump Street

when I heard about it was gonna be awful, and

that ended up being pretty good. So if this kind

of goes along the same lines as that, like more

comedic than taking it seriously, it could be

okay. And maybe The Rock, I could see like The

Rock and Zac Efron having good chemistry. I think

they're both, it can be funny at times. So I

think on paper, it's hard not to be a little

scared by it, but you know, I'd be optimistic

just based upon, you know, previous, like I said,

sneaking along the lines of 21 Jump Street. That's

what I was just going to ask, if you think it's

going to be a reboot along the same lines of

21 Jump Street, and kind of go that comedic route,

like you said, and like that humorous spin on

something that was, I mean, did anybody watch

that and think it wasn't humorous to begin with?

Are there die -hard Baywatch fans that took that

for real serious back then? Took it for serial?

No, the serious show was Baywatch Nights. That's

when they got serious. I find it interesting

that the first couple castings for this that

are making the headlines are both for the male

cast members of Baywatch since the original show

didn't... Did females watch the original show

at all or was that just for pre -pubescent boys?

I don't know. Are you admitting something there

Kevin? No, I had a couple classmates that were

obsessed with Baywatch and Pamela Anderson. I

don't even know if I've seen an entire episode

of Baywatch. Can you get hepatitis from watching

a TV show? I believe so. Well, this would be

the test. Amanda, what do you think of Baywatch

reboot or just the idea of maybe a comic, make

fun of Baywatch and then put The Rock and Zac

Efron in there? I think if they're going to do

it, it's going to be the comedic route just solely

based off of Efron coming out of Neighbors and

how well that did and that even getting a sequel.

And I think The Rock tends to put some kind of

humor. you know, in his own way and whatever

he does. So I think it's definitely going to

be a comedic reboot. But if it's anything along

the lines of 21 Jump Street, like you guys are

saying, I think it'll be golden. All right. Moving

on to the next one. I thought the Baywatch article

would be the worst article that I had to talk

about this week, but this one definitely one

ups it for me. And I'm just going to read it.

Word for word so that the listeners can kind

of react on their own and then we'll give them

a second and come back to this though. The article

reads, Godzilla movies writer promises bigger

and even better sequel. Yes, that is what we

said. So we're talking about a Godzilla sequel

and he's saying bigger and even better and...

We can only hope. Well, I mean it was... That

is literally saying something that would almost

be impossible not to follow through with I Don't

know I I question who this guy is talking to

or what circles he runs around and because in

the article and This is a quote the response

to the first film was really exciting I'm not

gonna continue with that line who was reacting

exciting to this film Dan was Did you like this

more than everybody else did? I liked it. I didn't.

I thought it was like most people. I thought

that the aspects of that with Godzilla and Bryan

Cranston were good and everything else. Aaron

Taylor and Johnson and whatnot was pretty bad.

But it did overall get a pretty positive reaction,

at least for the most part. I forget exactly

what it was like on Rotten Tomatoes, but there

were there were supporters, really strong supporters

who thought was quite good. I mean, it's not

like. you know uh the biggest and the best hit

of that year but it also did really well box

office wise so i think i you know maybe he just

uh he's some sort of blocker on his his his computer

where like all the bad reviews go away and he

just sees the positive but um that's not the

worst idea to do no no some people could it might

be a good idea maybe we can do it for itunes

i don't know um so i i guess i'm yeah man He

could have also just been you know, it's Been

really just talking about making it better than

last time I don't know but I don't I don't think

necessarily it was a movie that was hated upon

a great deal I mean it had his detractors, but

it was overall pretty Decently received much

better received than previous Godzilla films

at least It has 74 % on rotten tomatoes, that's

pretty good. It's a decent, you know, that's

a what a B minus Yeah, that's not bad at all.

That's actually higher than I thought it was.

I guess my other question to go along with this

article would be, are they going to make the

same mistake that a lot of other franchises make

and include too much in this sequel? Because

the last part of the article says that it suggested

that Rodan, Mothra, and I might say this wrong,

Ghidorah, would all appear in the sequel? Um,

I mean, I guess at least with if you're adding

in monsters You don't necessarily need to have

an origin story for them at least hopefully not

so maybe won't be as bad but I thought they couldn't

have some of those because the right to choose

or something like that, but uh Maybe that was

just rumors and speculation, but if it's less

Ellen Taylor Johnson and more monsters, I'm okay

with it I mean, I think maybe they found the

right formula because if you add More and more

monsters, you're just gonna be forced to have

more monsters on screen at some point so maybe

we'll have one fight in the daylight that'd be

nice maybe just one and maybe they won't have

to instead of cutting to humans during the middle

of it they'll have to cut to the other monsters

so it'll still be a win um amanda any excitement

over godzilla sequel no not really i didn't even

see the the other reboot, I guess we're going

to call it. I did not hate the Matthew Broderick

joint, though. I dug that. And the little babies

in Madison Square Garden. I was like, yeah, this

is awesome. But I did not see the this most recent

reboot. And just based on all the awful things

I heard about it, I'm like, I do care less. So

this one as well. I guess if this comes out,

I'll have to watch the other just to just compare

the. You'll be rewatching the first one on your

own. Re -watching? I haven't seen it. Or watching

the first one on your own. All right. Moving

on to the next article all about the Lego Batman

movie. First of all, Dan, before we get to the

article, what are the chances that the Lego Batman

movie is going to be on par with the Lego movie?

Or do you feel like it's automatically somehow

going to be a step down as far as reception and

success? Ah, since Phil Lord and, you know, Miller

are not attached to it, I think the possibility

is very low. And, you know, I felt like what

made Lego Movie great was the assortment of characters.

And if it's just Lego Batman, I don't know if

you're gonna get that. So I think the chances

of it being good is, I mean, better than or equal

to the original Lego Movie is near zero percent,

honestly. Not to be a negative answer, but I

don't, I don't, I know, I know. The chances that

TFG and Mike likes the Lego Batman... 120%, yeah.

Absolutely. Amanda, are you excited for Lego

Batman? I know you've played all the Lego video

games. I actually have not played Lego Batman.

Oh, that's the one that you haven't played. Or

Lego Star Wars, or Lego Dresden Park. Okay, I'm

just an idiot. So, as far as the movie though,

there's like a thousand Lego video games. That

was a dumb statement by me. There's no way anybody

could play them all. I have played several, yes.

excitement for the Lego Batman movie? Yeah, I

think that I really like the Lego movie. I don't

know if I like cream my pants as much as everybody

else did over it. I think this one might be super

fun though and just hearing all the voice cast.

Stop shaking your head. What did you just say?

I think just hearing all the voice castings that

are tied in this is getting me even more excited

about it. And Dan, the casting of Zach Galifianakis

as the voice of the Joker. What do you think?

Sure. Why not? I find funny about this movie,

though, is just the amount of hits, websites

you're getting off of it. Because just the naming

of the titles are very peculiar. Because it'll

be like, Zach Galifianakis cast as Joker in a

really small plant. in the lego batman movie

but you know though it's like yeah let's just

try to yeah i think i don't know i like i like

zac galifianakis i know like he gets kind of

uh pigeonholed because of his role in hangover

but i think he's a better actor than that and

i think i think it'll be fun i think it'll be

Yeah, I agree with you. I think he is a decent

actor. I think, you know, he surprised a lot

of people in Birdman last year. And I think he's

got a lot of talent that we might be able to

see another side of him and see how he does with

the voice roles there. Another kind of, I guess

you could call it a pseudo -horror film, cult

classic maybe, confirmation about a Beetlejuice

2 movie coming possibly from Winona Ryder, also

kind of... referring to a interview that Michael

Keaton did, or no, that Tim Burton did, one of

them. Somebody said something in an interview

and she kind of took it off there. Renota Weider.

Renota Weider. Yeah. So what do you think, Dan?

I think this... is the right time for something

like that. I'm not necessarily saying that we

necessarily need one, but I think if they were

going to do a reboot or a sequel... Of course

we absolutely need one. I mean, this is the time

where, I mean, it's all about all of the undead

and all of this type of stuff, and I think people

would eat this up. I don't know, is there still...

There was never not a following for this movie.

There has been a continuous following for this

movie. I even loved... I'm guessing you're giving

us a thumbs up. I'm giving it two freaking thumbs

up. I even loved the cartoon. I think that it

was a really cool, fun, scary, creepy, rude,

crude, and social acceptable world to be in.

I loved it. Alright, Stan has... I'll freely

amend that. I have watched the cartoon Beetlejuice,

but I've actually never watched the movie. I

know, it's ridiculous. You've never seen the

original movie? I have not, no. I don't know,

I've always missed it. I've seen Fits and Pieces

here and there, but never sat and watched it

straight through. So maybe it'll get me more

obligated to go watch it, I don't know. My little

brother was in diapers and wanted to watch this

movie on repeat. Was that recently? when he was

little and he wanted to watch it over and over

again and he would recite some of the lines and

act out a couple of the scenes and it was ridiculous

it's worth it just for the day song whatever

the name of that actual song yeah yeah all right

so we'll have to see Dan if you watch that sometime

down the road and get your reaction from that

I haven't seen it probably since the 1980s so

what or maybe the first couple years of the nineties.

I don't know, I definitely haven't seen it since

I was in high school. So that's been a long time

for me as well. Not as long as you Dan, since

you've never seen it. Going on to one more news

and then we got a plethora of news from a certain

franchise that we're obligated to talk about.

But before we get to that, Dan, I wanted to get

your opinion because I don't know if you've seen

this show or not. I personally have not seen

the show. Have you ever, did you ever watch the

HBO series Deadwood? No, it's been in my queue

forever and one bigger reason I haven't is because

I've heard it like it kind of ends on a cliffhanger

so I've... been hesitant to pick it up because

I'm like I don't want to like watch a show and

then end up getting disappointed because I never

got a proper finale. This is definitely one of

the shows if I had had HBO at the time I probably

would have watched because it's something that's

like right up my alley I love that kind of setting

and you know the whole western feel etc and I

definitely would have watched it I think I saw

part of like an episode early on and I was like

I was gonna get into it but I'm like I have no

way to watch this so that would be a really hard

thing to do and it was probably before the amount

of options that are currently available to watch

TV shows. It is on Amazon Prime. There we go.

I might have to catch up to it too, but like

I said, same kind of thing that you were talking

about. The inclusive end makes you wonder if

you want to invest your time in something that

you know isn't going to happen. But look at Heroes.

See what they have on that? And it's coming back,

bruh. You're excited about that? Super excited.

But I know there's been multiple things that

they were going to do to tie up all the loose

ends and kind of put this to a close. And now

it seems like they might be starting to discuss

making a actual big screen film to try to kind

of tie it all together. I'm not going to say

much about it because I've never seen it. Dan,

you've never seen it. Amanda, have you ever seen

any episodes of Deadwood? No. So we'll leave

it up to the listeners to tell us if this is

good or bad. Are you guys excited or not about

the possibility of a Deadwood film? Or is this

enough to make you want to watch the series for

the first time? So, interesting to see your guys'

take on that. We have a whole bunch of Star Wars

related news, so let's just get it all out there.

Get your guys' reaction. If you're sick of Star

Wars news, you can pass your turn here, but I

don't know. That seems for me to be the one franchise

that I don't get sick of. news and rumors for

although i'm trying to stay away from anything

that tells me anything about plots or details

of that nature dan i have heard the force does

awaken so just the force awakens and thanks for

doing it for me i know thank you for clarifying

it for me because i wasn't sure so there there's

um a bunch of articles recently there's details

about the the han solo and the boba fet possible

spin -offs. There was the casting news for Rogue

One. There was the confirmation of a director,

one Colin Chavarro, for one of the future episodes.

And there was also one of the first images. for

Rogue One, kind of giving you the cast and maybe

a slight look at that. Dan, did any of that stuff

pique your interest? Are you keeping up with

any of this stuff or are you trying to avoid

everything like the plague? I'm not really avoiding

it, but I'm also not not ticking it out. I did

see the image for Rogue One, which it does look

intriguing. It's kind of weird to be like, get

excited about an image, but I do just the way

they're going for it. if you like compare that

image to like episode one and two and three it

just that one like they look like real people

compared to the previous one so that and that

cast just has me excited like mostly Ben Mendelsohn

and Felicity Jones like that they're getting

legit actors for these roles that are, you know,

not necessarily mainstream. I mean, they're Oscar

nominated or known well in the movie world, but

they're not like Brad Pitt or, you know, more

movie star type level. So I'm really liking what

Disney is doing with Star Wars. I mean, I think

they have really taken it and yeah, they may

be oversaturating it with the amount of movies

they're doing, but I feel like they're at least

putting a lot of thought and getting a lot of

talented people to make sure that these movies

are actually good. Liam Neeson was in episode

one. I'm not saying they were void of that. Hugh

McGregor is a good actor, but you know there's

also... They fooled us once. The rest of the

cast did get disclosed too, as well as the ones

you mentioned, Felicity Jones and Ben Mendelsohn.

You also have Forrest Whitaker, Alan Tudyk, and

Mads Mikkelsen amongst a couple other people,

which to me just makes the cast even more...

Mads Mikkelsen's like my favorite actor right

now, like everything he does, especially like

him and Hannibal, so that has me super excited

that him and Ben Mendelsohn in the same film

in the Star Wars movie, I'm in. So, Mendelsohn

I think would make it great. Great Star Wars

villain else. Yeah, hopefully we'll see Yeah,

I think that's I'm a big fan of Mads Mikkelsen

as well so I'm definitely excited about that

cast before Amanda chimes in Dan any thoughts

of the Attachment of Colin Trevorrow to one of

the films now, too. I think it's too early to

make it declaration of him as a directory like

he's only done two films so far I like safety

not guaranteed Jurassic World was fine it was

hard to tell like how much it was him like how

much of an input he had and that I thought he

had some decent moments overall but I don't know

it doesn't really excite me or not excite me

yet it it does seem like it What's happening

now is like you're getting a director that has

like one good indie hit and then suddenly now

they're getting put in every big film But I do

like they're at least diversifying with directors

at least Yeah, like I said like you said there's

not a lot to judge him on so I'm kind of indifferent

as well about you know a lot of people are kind

of either going crazy in a good or bad way over

this and I think that's you know let's let's

let the guy do a couple a couple films before

we go crazy on him being attached to the franchise.

I mean, the guy who directed it and far as strikes

back was, what, how many movies did he direct?

You know, Ivan Kirshner. Yeah. After that. So

I feel like, in a way, these are movies that

are not to be... Well, a lot of ways probably

direct themselves, kind of like Marvel studio

films. I wonder how much say these directors

are actually going to have. True. That's a good

point. Amanda, any excitement over any of the

Star Wars news, or are you fighting at the chance

to talk about the next news story? I just want

to see the movies already. I'm kind of sick of

talking about it. I just want it to be here.

I just want to watch it and enjoy it. I don't

want to hear anything more about it. I want to

watch it, like, four times already. Alright,

what's your one -upper? Alright, so we'll have

to wait. I'm sure it's just going to ramp up

here as we get closer and closer to December.

I don't know how I can ramp up anymore. It's

going to ramp up when we're standing out in the

cold at whatever time it is that night. You'll

just get Dunkin' Donuts, Star Wars coffee mug.

That's when Taco Bell has their Star Wars cups.

That's when it gets really serious. Those cups

are so inconvenient, by the way. They're so impractical.

The ones where they have, like, the thing that

you put on top that's like the figure that has,

like, the hands and then, like, a straw. That

was, like, way back in the day from MP3. Yeah,

I don't know. I don't know those. I had a couple

of them and it was impossible to put in any type

of cup holder because it was so top heavy that

it was just gonna flip over and pop would be

everywhere, so. You would be trying to put that

in a cup holder in your bar. I would be. Not

a shame. There are five -year -olds sitting in

front of the TV. What? Watching Ninja Turtles,

okay? They're not for grown men trying to put

it in their car and take it with them. Well,

then I do not have any of them in the basement.

That means he has all of them. No, I didn't.

They're in the attic. Let's be fair. Alright,

moving on before I get thrown over the bus anymore.

Under, over, on the bus. No, both. That's what

I feel. Alright, Amanda, I know you're stoked

about this one, so we'll get right into it. Predator.

The new Predator movie's fresh perspective will

reinvent the franchise. I think you're still

going to be one ugly motherfucker no matter who

I listen to. But I'm super excited. I love the

Predator franchise. Ever since I was little and

saw the first one, I've been hooked. I think

the Predator is such a cool creature, such a

cool character. And even though he doesn't really

talk... that much besides what he's mimicking.

I think that he's super dynamic and has a lot

to him that, you know, you can glean from watching

him and watching, you know, all these things

that he does and his interactions with humans

and the other aliens that are like him. The only

one that I was kind of, I didn't really dig was

Predators with Adrian Brody, Michelle Rodriguez,

I think was in it. joint. That was a little boring

where they're actually on like the Predator's

planet. I thought that could have done a lot

better so I'm excited for something to come in

and kind of rejuvenate the whole franchise. You

are way more knowledgeable of the Predator world

than I am. Dan I had a question for you along

this one because the producer is... He's keeping

a whole bunch of praise on Shane Black and just

a couple snippets here from the article. His

new direction for the franchise is nothing short

of genius. I've read a lot of his script and

I think it's genius. Again, right after that,

I think it's genius. And then amazing writer

-director, and then here's the one that'll either

rub people the right way or the wrong way. This

is the most entertaining way to reinvent a franchise.

I mean, he's the guy who wrote Iron Man 3. I

like Iron Man 3. I do too. I know a lot of people

don't, but I like Iron Man 3. Do you think it's

interesting, though, the way that the amount

of praise, or are you intrigued by how he's claiming

this is going to be a pretty unique reinvention

and re -look at the franchise? I like seeing

Black as a writer. I think he is a legit writer.

I mean, if he didn't even like Iron Man 3, Kiss

Kiss Bang Bang with the weapon films, I think

there's no question. It is interesting thinking,

I don't know if he's ever done science fiction

before, but that's a tricky word, honestly, because

how much are you reinventing? I agree with Amanda

that the Predator is a great character. It's

kind of just his idea and his character design.

It's amazing. It's one of the best. I think yeah,

reinventing is good, but also I don't want to

get to the point where it's like now you have

this alien that can talk and he's like, you know,

it's some sort of like ninja character that's

nothing like the original. You know, reinventing

can go a lot of different ways, you know, and

Shane Black's typically a guy who is known for

his dialogue. So can you, can you, can you make

that interpretable? Maybe, maybe you can. So

I, I... I too was a little disappointed with

Predators. I thought it had a good premise, but

it ended up just kind of being a meh film. So

I do think there's more to get out of the Predator

franchise. I've read some of the comics. There's

actually some good stories there. The mythology

is actually interesting for sure. So hopefully

they'll be able to do something and bring it

back. And Amanda has drawn a picture of the Predator

for me while we've been talking. I'm trying.

All right, so interesting news as far as Predator

goes. We'll see how that all turns out and what

kind of genius new take on it that Shane Black

has. I'm intrigued. Maybe he'll look like this.

I don't think he's going to look like this. I'm

glad you knew that's what it was. That's a great

podcast, you know, by the way. Alright, we talked

about the reboot or the second chance try at

a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and what

your guys' interest level was back then. I'm

curious now if you're more or less interested

now that it turns out where it's going to be

the League of Extraordinary Gentlewomen instead

of men. Dan? I just hope that's not the title.

Gentlewomen. You didn't like it? No, not so much.

I don't know. Sure, I guess. I mean, I don't

know what characters are going to be introducing

or using or actors. It's kind of hard to say

without many names attached at this point. And

it doesn't really have source material, like

to my knowledge that the original did. So I'd

be interested at this point, but it's hard to

really give a full, full opinion on it, since

it's really in infancy with what we have so far.

And not that you can't change genders of characters

that are already established the article does

state that there was only like one female character

in that yeah Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you

make like Huckaberry Finn into a woman. Maybe

you could I don't know I think Hopefully they

don't do that and they more so get like good

female You know characters from classic literature

and use those because that would be kind of cool

if you can get some Yeah, I think that would

lend itself to some decent possibilities and

some interesting creations Amanda you like the

extraordinary gentleman. I think it was fine.

Just the way it was I don't know what they're

gonna do with it making it more female centric

Going in line with the the Ghostbusters reboot

I think that I'm not really sure how they are

going to morph these characters or what characters

are going to be used. I think that if I can see

some casting behind it, I might be a little bit

more excited. I'm definitely excited for the

idea. When I heard it's going to be more female

-centric, I was a little taken back from it.

So I need some more news to renew my faith in

it. Do we know what role Melissa McCarthy will

be playing? Bitches and everything, doesn't matter

what she's playing. She'll just show up, walk

through the set. She'll be Frankenstein's monster.

That'll be a movie, yeah. Someone's going to

hear this and that's going to become a movie.

I thought she was going to be a Stapuff Marshmallow

Man. Not the case. All right, I'm not going to

let anyone talk about the next one because I'm

just going to tell all the listeners to circle

your calendars. 2018. Because that's when we're

getting a feature film animated version of Scooby

-Doo. Yay. Because 700 direct -to -video animated

films are not enough. So it's gonna be an animated

film, not live action? Yeah, it's gonna be animated.

It's exactly like all the stuff that are releasing

to DVD, except it's gonna be an actual big screen

feature film. Sure. So that's just terrible.

Going back to something else that probably will

end up being terrible as well. It may be a product

that's been talked about for 15 years, but apparently

it's gaining some steam. We're talking about

Zorro Reborn. The mask of Zorro was the shit.

This is a specific story that's, I kind of guess,

been in the works, like I said, for about 15

years. It's been up, it's been down, it's going

to be made, it's not going to be made. Man, the

legendary sword -swinger relocated to a post

-apocalyptic wasteland. What? Sorry. It's Mad

Max, but it's Zorro playing the role of Mad Max,

I guess. Oh, wow. I don't know. They're trying

to introduce the classic Zorro character to a

new generation, but don't worry folks, don't

get too excited because they're actually still

searching to try to find the director. I hate

like... to introduce it to a new generation.

We're just going to take everything about it

and make it different. And yeah, this is ridiculous.

You don't need to put everything in the post

-apocalyptic world. That worked for Mad Max,

Dan. Yeah, but that was originally in the post

-apocalyptic world. I know. I feel like that's

what's happening. People are like, Mad Max got

a lot of great reviews. It was in a post -apocalyptic

world. and it had a female lead so every movie

is trying to do one of those two things it's

like let's either set it in the post -apocalyptic

world or let's focus on a female lead which i'm

fine with you know it needs to be more of them

but man let's do the annie griffith show but

in the apocalypse some deformed creature whistling

down um but man i don't know is there anybody

that is is there a fan base for zoro still these

days No, I mean not to my knowledge. I mean I

talking about introducing it to a new generation

I don't even think it was successful or popular

with our generation. Oh, I like that one. I don't

know nice pretty well, but yeah I actually watched

the original of the TV series the classic TV

series a lot with my parents because they liked

it a lot, but Yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily

think it's like yeah, it's got some name recognition

I guess so that's worth something today, I guess

Who doesn't know that freakin' Z slashed with

a sword in his hands? That's true, that's true.

Pretty iconic, I guess. Not giving it enough

credit. I'll calm down. Calm down yourself. Don't

help Zorro, man. Come on, now. Last news story,

as promised, guys, and then we're gonna get into

some trailer talk, and that is Prometheus 2 is

rumored to come before Alien 5. I don't even

know if I can keep track of what's what in that

franchise at the moment. I'd have to probably

rewatch everything. Dan, is that interesting?

I, one of the few people I feel like that liked

Prometheus. I did too. I like Prometheus, but

I'm trying to remember all of the Alien movies

plus that. Place them all chronologically in

my head. I haven't, yeah, I don't know where

Alien 5 is even gonna fall or who's doing what.

I don't know. Cause it's like Prometheus is kind

of a prequel, but then it's like, well, it really

isn't. I don't know. It's kind of crazy. I'd

personally, I'd rather see Prometheus 2 before

Alien 5. So I'm perfectly okay with this. Let's

talk about Prometheus 2 landing in 2017 and Alien

5 landing in 2018. So we will see Amanda excited

about more aliens and Prometheus and all that

have you seen Prometheus? Yeah, I saw Prometheus

the creepy self -abortion scene at the end pretty

Pretty nasty messed me up a little bit. I wasn't

a huge fan of that movie. I thought it was it

was out there definitely I liked how it kind

of I had those ties into Alien, but the only

time I really like Alien is when it's Alien versus

Predator, so... I'd rather see Predator, but

if it's cool, I'll see it. That should be a game

we play. What movie can we make better by adding

the Predator? I'm winning that game. She's already

got a slew of probably what you picked out. Lincoln,

that'd be better with Predator. Oh, man. I'm

cast away. All right, let's get into some trailer

talk. We're not going to talk about all of them,

but they're all going to be linked to on the

website. There has been 20 new trailers since

the last time we discussed trailers, so I'll

just give everybody a chance to talk about one

or two that they're excited or very much adamantly

opposed to. Dan, we'll start with you. Yay or

nay for a trailer. What do you got? I feel like

kind of have to start with it since we are talking

about Quentin T and Rotino Right now with all

his films and that of course is the trailer that

finally came out for the hateful eight Right.

I I will say that the first time I watched it.

I was like kind of let down I was like that that

was disappointed. It didn't really have the style

I was expecting. It seemed I don't know a little

uneventful I've watched it like five times since

then and I do like On a cinematic standpoint,

I do think it looks gorgeous. And it does seem

like it's going to be more classic, something

like Jenga, which was kind of cross genre. So

I'm interested in it, of course. But still, I

was expecting more from the trailer than we got.

I still recommend, I'm still giving it a thumbs

up. But I'm a little bit more hesitant than I

was before, so. I'm going to give it a yay as

well. I mean, I can kind of see exactly what

you're saying. I was still excited about it,

though. I like the setting. I like the actors

involved. My apprehension, I guess, comes slightly

with the Samuel L. Jackson character. And I'm

going to try to not form any opinions until I

see it. But I'm somewhat worried. And I'm sure

we're going to get into this as we kind of wrap

up the Tarantino spotlight. But I don't know.

I'm somewhat worried about how he's been portrayed

in a few movies recently. Not that it's bad the

way that he's been portrayed, but it's almost

borderline too comical for me in a few films

in the last couple years, and I'm just kind of

apprehensive about what his character's gonna

be like in this film, but I'm still excited about

it, and like I said, the whole cast and the setting

and everything, I'm still on board. Amanda, how

did you feel about that trailer? I think I'm

on board, but I think I felt much like Dan, where

I was a little disappointed. I didn't feel like

there was a whole lot going on, and I'm hoping

they're just saving the good stuff, rightfully

so, for the actual film. That would be unheard

of these days. All right, Amanda, what do you

got? You got one that you want to shout out in

a positive or negative way? I'm going to go with

another positive. I am super stoked for The Last

Witch Hunter. Even these new trailers, I'm like,

yes, this is everything that The Seventh Son

should have been. And Vin Diesel's on board,

so of course I have to be on board. I think it's

a really cool premise, and you know, I dig that

genre anyway, so I was hooked at that. And I

really dig what these trailers are putting out,

too. Alright, I'll keep it positive as well and

the one I'll talk about which I can see maybe

not everybody being as positive about but would

be the first look that we got at the movie Life

about James Dean and the photographer that is

following him with Dane DeHaan seemingly getting

all kinds of early... praise for his role in

that one. That was one of the ones that was kind

of in the discussion for me with the most anticipated

films of the year. It was kind of the first look

I got at it. I'm still on board. I think this

is going to be an interesting film, but I'm also

a big James Dean fan. So I guess it wouldn't

take much for me to be on board at this point.

I don't know. What was your... Dan, did you have

a reaction to that one? I did. I did like it.

I do like they do Han as an actor and I'm actually

really intrigued in what that's gonna be and

how that's gonna work out. So I'm excited for

it. All right. Amanda, any interest in it? I

don't think I had heard about this before we

watched the trailer the other day and I think

that I I'm gonna dig it as much as I don't know.

I think it still has a slow feel that I'm not

going to like. But I do think that James Dean

is a super cool guy and some of that look that

we got with that casting is pretty intriguing.

All right. Fair enough. Give it one more round.

You don't have to pick something else out if

you don't want to. But if there's something else

that you would like to give a shout out, go for

it. Dan, anything else? Two can come to mind,

but I'll go with the Martian. It's similar when

I was like, I thought pixels could be good and

I was disappointed. I'm worried about having,

getting excited for Ridley Scott movie just because

he's now, last two years with the counselor and

actually with the gods and forget his exodus.

I have not yet even watched that. just kind of

bring myself to it. But I think it looks pretty

good. I was wondering how they're going to make

it work, but I'm liking the idea. This cast looks

strong, so I'm hesitant, but optimistic about

that film. Yeah, I'm a lot of the same way. I

can see bits and pieces of a lot of great films

in there, and I'm just hoping that it all comes

together to be a complete... Story and a complete

experience. My only my biggest concern is that

it just be like another Survival film and like

just that we've kind of seen time and time again

So will it be able to separate itself or not?

Yeah, just exactly Yeah, I'm with you on that

one Amanda your thoughts on Martian and any other

tray that you wanted to bring up I think Martian

should be pretty good. I think it should be an

action Thrill ride as well as like kind of an

emotional roller coaster. So I think that's gonna

have quite a few things going for it And Matt

Damon and science in the shit out of things.

It was gonna be pretty cool I think that my next

trailer choice I'm gonna go with another yay

for Victor Frankenstein I think that that whole

story and the lore behind that is always super

cool to watch And with James McAvoy and Daniel

Radcliffe, Harry Potter and the Hizels, I think

it's going to be a really cool adaptation. And

seeing little snippets of the monster in that

trailer really has me intrigued. I think it should

be pretty good. All right. If I had to pick another

one out, if I was trying to be positive, I don't

know, maybe Stonewall, but I guess to be negative,

I would go with the trailer for Ride Along 2.

Why would you? It's just not necessary at all.

So I didn't enjoy the first one. I'm not going

to see the second one. So I don't know if anybody's

excited for that. I guess you can tell me why.

But I didn't hear anybody praise the first one

very much. I also think that it's comical that

writer of the song Fuck the Police is playing

a cop once again in a movie. True, very true.

All right, so there's a bunch of other trailers

on the website. Go ahead and check those out.

Give us your feedback on which ones you're excited

for, which ones have kind of taken the air out

of your balloon there, or air out of your sails,

whichever is the best phrase, I don't know. But

we're going to take a quick break. We've been

at it for a little while. We're going to catch

our breath, and then we're going to come back

and talk to you about all the different films

we've been seeing since last we talked. So we'll

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.com Thanks for sticking with us. It is time

to get into the what we've been watching segment

in lieu of a main discussion because we have

probably about 10 to 12 films to talk about total

I would guess if you're ending up Amanda, myself,

Dan and our homework assignment. So we're just

gonna get into all of that and see where it goes.

We're gonna start with a film that achieved something

that is pretty hard to do. in my book. I don't

know, Amanda, in your film -going experience,

but there has hardly ever been a time in my life

that I have stopped a film before it ends. I'm

not talking about walking out of the theater,

which I don't think I've ever done, but as far

as watching a film on DVD or something and just...

Not stopping it because I had to go somewhere.

Not stopping it because of some type of emergency

or because I ran out of time. Just stopping it

because I couldn't take another second. And that

would have been one of our rentals from this

week called Miss Julie. Dan, have you seen this

one? Never even heard of it. Okay, that's good.

Colin Farrell, Jessica Chastain. Colin Farrell,

Jessica Chastain, and that's basically it. You

don't need to know about anybody else that's

in this. It's a period piece in which they are

kind of playing this little cat. Jessica Chastain

is basically trying to seduce Colin Farrell,

who is one of the paid employees of this... uh...

household or whatever right in front of his wife

or something like that this movie was absolutely

agonizingly painful for about the first i don't

know how much did we get into it a half hour

twenty minutes maybe we got about twenty minutes

or so into this and we had to stop it I guess

what happened was we were so in pain and then

we ended up reading the summary on whatever,

Rotten Tomato or something, to see kind of what

route we were going to go for the rest of the

movie. And it basically told us that we were

going to continue watching exactly what had gone

on for another hour and a half. Like weird shit,

like her making him kiss her boot for no reason.

and it had like mud and stuff all over it and

it's just a lot of weird power and control struggle

back and forth between the two. Which if it had

been intriguing for the first 20 minutes I guess

we would have stuck around but since we didn't

enjoy the first 20 minutes of the struggle back

and forth knowing that it was going to be an

hour, hour and a half of the exact same thing

for the rest of the movie was not enough to keep

us watching that so Miss Julie earned a stop

20 minutes into it. I don't ever do that. So

that was a milestone, I guess, for us. So I guess

we can't rate it since we didn't see it. But

I would not recommend that to anybody. And if

anybody out there has seen it and enjoyed it,

please let me know what happens to us in the

movie that made it so enjoyable. Dan, what's

something that you watch? One thing I did watch

I caught up with one summer film from 2015, and

that's Terminator Genesis. I'm not going to say

a great deal. Mostly everything's been set out.

This is gonna get killed by a lot of people.

I mean people thought it was like the worst thing

ever. I don't think it was nearly that bad. I

do think the plot is convoluted and like the

time travel thing just kind of gets kind of crazy.

And you know, Jack Courtney is not the best kind

of reason. The only Jay Courtney fan on the planet

is sitting here. Really? Wow, okay. Well, I'll

even - Jay's my boy! Even Amelia Clarke, who

I like in Game of Thrones, I thought was kind

of not great as Sarah Connor. I think Arnold,

though, I did feel like this is the best thing

he's done since he's come back. He still had

some of that charisma that pulled him through

the other films. It's nothing near the level

of Terminator 1 or 2, but I think it's on par

with the third film. It has its moments, its

actions, okay. I do think like it's Big Twist

does get completely ruined by the trailer like

that. It may have been more effective if I didn't

know it was coming and have been looking for

it the entire time. And the action was, it had

moments, but at times where it was like there's

this gigantic chase sequence on a bus. And I

guess I didn't even get where, like what the

chase was even, like what's the purpose of this

chase? Like, were they even going? Like, what

is their end goal here? So it was, you know,

it had, but. Some of the Terminator vs. Terminator

fights were fun to watch. I did the new design

of the new Terminator. I thought they did some

interesting things with it. I think it's mediocre.

It's probably the worst thing. I don't think

it's awful. I think it's better than Salvation,

which I think is pretty bad. I'd give it a 5

out of 10. I wouldn't give it a recommend, but

I don't think it's necessarily... What did you

think of the first 20, 25 minutes? I felt like

it was a little too self -referential, and it

just, it all had, all the callbacks to the previous

Boonton films were, I mean, I thought some were

okay, some were better than others, but I just,

when you do that for me, I just want to start

watching the other movie. I'm like, I'd just

rather go back and watch Terminator 1 and Terminator

2. I like the idea of that, though, of the concept

of playing with those timelines, but I thought

they could do some better things. Also, I was

thinking, if you're preparing all this time for

these moments, do you think you'd be better prepared?

like why not give terminator like why not just

give arnold the gun that kills the terminator

i don't i don't know there's always been so many

times in that franchise where i've been like

well if you have the ability to do this yeah

why don't you just do that so that's the best

time travel it gets a little murky uh for sure

but Yeah, I mean, I did like the first half,

I think more than the second half for the most

part. But yeah, the thing that kind of annoyed

me, and I guess it's because it's supposed to

be like the beginning of a trilogy, was the amount

of unanswered questions that it leaves. I think

I hate this thing movies are doing now where

they're like writing for the sequel where it's

like, okay, this will be explained later. And

that gets annoying because what we're seeing

is that often doesn't happen. The sequel maybe

not get made. So then you're just having like

a half film, half of a film, so. Right. No, I

think that is a dangerous thing. I think there

is something to say for a film that could be

part of a franchise or a trilogy or whatever

that can also stand by itself and stand on its

own. Just to go to the classic example of the

original Star Wars film, A New Hope, that's a

film that does fit into the whole franchise and

the whole trilogy, but it also could have been

a film in and of itself. And I think there's

something of an accomplishment when you can do

that. So I'm with you. I don't like that whole

let's just write something and then set it up

for 18 more films by not answering anything in

the first film. Amanda, what do you want to go

to next? Do you want to go into one that I just

saw? Let's go into one of the two that you saw

by yourself. Alright, I guess we could start

with Weegee. I finally caught up with Weegee.

Was that 2014 or 2015? I don't know. It's from

last year. Okay, 2014. I do like the horror genre.

I even like beat rated horror for the most part.

This movie, I think that it was a cool concept

and it did a couple things really well as far

as their scare tactics went. It was a lot of

jump scares and then at the end I think that

it had some pretty creepy elements as well. I

wasn't... Terrified throughout I was definitely

super creeped out. I'm gonna give it a six out

of ten just Just be I guess maybe being a little

hard on it, but also a little little generous

in some areas, too I don't think I'd ever rewatch

it, but I would recommend it for somebody else

to pick up All right, not enough to get me to

watch it if you would have given it a ten Maybe

I would watch it. I Don't think it's gonna I'd

do anything for you, Kev. Okay. Dan, what else

did you see this last couple weeks? I hate to

keep the negative train running, but I kind of

have to with this. And I'll preface this by saying

I am a fan of, I don't know if you've heard of

him, Doug Benson. He's a comedian. He hosts the

podcast. Doug loves movies, which is legitimately

one of my favorite podcasts. It's more of a comedic

podcast. It plays a lot of different games, like

winter mountain games. I find them very funny.

for the most part, like I think this podcast

is great. His stand up is pretty good. It's not

my favorite, but he has his moments. And he's

directed a few films. He's directed Super High

Me, which was like a parody of Super Size Me,

where instead of eating fast food, he smoked

pot for 30 days. look at it in God of Defect.

It wasn't a great documentary. It was okay. But

he's kind of had this thing where he has been

making kind of spoofs of Morgan Spurlock's documentary.

And one he did was of Morgan Spurlock's documentary

Comic -Con episode for A New Hope or Fans Hope.

And he made his own documentary inspired by that

called Chronicon episode 420, A New Dope. Again,

I'm not a pothead or a smoke pot at all, but

that is a big part of Doug Benson's comedy in

some way. It's not so much his podcast, but it...

The basic premise is, and I say premise loosely,

is it's just like Doug Benson going into Comic

-Con and his two goals were to find Morgan Sparlock

and then like smoke with some dude dressed up

as a superhero and kind of just get more of the

fan perspective of Comic -Con. This to me legitimately

is one of the poorest excuses I've seen for a

documentary in a long time. And like I said,

I'm a Doug Benson fan, but this was... There

are times when movies are bad because things

don't work out, you go over something and it

doesn't work. To me, this was bad because it

was just lazy. It was ill -conceived. Legitimately,

there are times where you're just following him

around, walking along the street just kind of

doing nothing. At one time, you're just like,

there's this homeless guy freaking out, so they're

videotaping him with a blurted face, and that's...

And then they move on to the next thing and it

takes they probably shot this in a couple of

days and to me It's the equivalent equivalent

of just getting like three or four vine videos

and putting it together and then releasing in

it as a movie It's just it's it's It's annoying

and just how had how little effort went into

making this movie and just there's it's useless.

It's aimless There's nothing going on. I don't

there's no resemblance of a point Like I said

his two major goals are to smoke and meet Morgan

Sporlock and he meets more Morgan Sporlock They

have like a two -minute conversation and then

they go on At the end of the day, I think it

was just they had the title and that's all they

had and then they're like Oh, we'll just videotape

it for a weekend and that's all we did and there's

nothing much to it and there's very even Little

review of the actual comic -con itself. They

will they go in for like 20 minutes and they

walk out There's there's nothing really there.

So it is it is bad. It's you it's I Like to me,

it's like an embarrassment of a documentary in

a lot of ways It shouldn't have been released

as a major film. I don't even know if it was

in theaters, but it is on Netflix so You mean

there are moments where I've laughed like here

and there they're there and he puts in bits and

pieces of his documentary or his podcast like

he One of his live podcasts he does he put it

on and that was probably the best part this entire

thing Uh, so I I would give this the lowest score.

I think I have given film on cinema geeks That's

a one out of ten and it's avoid at all costs.

Don't bother Uh, and and I I tried to kind of

wash the taste out of my mouth by watching his

other documentary He did before this and that

was the greatest movie ever rolled And that was

a little bit better Just because it was just

your classic, uh Stand -up tour documentary was

him going around the country and following him

around and that was okay It was just it was again

unoriginal but at least had more of a resemblance

and had a little bit more of a point to it and

And I'm a fan of stand -up. So it that was kind

of cool just seeing stand -up in different parts

of the country and how it's done and different

comedy clubs, but Overall, I would give that

a failing grade as well. I could give that a

four out of ten so I Avoid those at all costs,

but do listen to Douglas' movies, because I do

think it's a good podcast. All right, so a positive

review for the podcast, and stay away from everything

else. Yeah, pretty much. At least those two.

Yeah, at least his movies. I mean, Super High

Me was OK. I think that's kind of what got him

attention, and I think that at least has some

merit to it, but everything else he's done, documentary

-wise, has been pretty pathetic. Alright, so

that is interesting. I don't know if I've ever

seen you rate something that low or not find

much good. I don't think you said one redeeming

thing about that. That to me is the worst thing

a movie can do. There are times where a movie

may not work for me because it's not my taste

or what have you, but when I feel like a movie

is failing because there's no effort put in,

that to me is the biggest thing you can do when

it's just laziness that's pathetic. I agree.

Alright, let's move on to one that Amanda and

I both saw. I don't know if we're really going

to change things to positive quite yet. Other

times we can't even watch anything good. Right?

We saw a 2015 film entitled Barely Lethal. Wow,

that sounds amazing. starring Samuel L Jackson,

Sansa Stark, Haley Stan, and Jessica Alba, and

there's probably a couple other people in there

that I'm forgetting. I was somewhat fooled by

whatever... Yeah, he's a love interest. Okay.

I think I was somewhat fooled by either whatever

snippet I saw of a teaser or a trailer or the

marketing or something because I thought this

was going to be a completely different film.

I thought this was going to be a film where,

and this is not a spoiler, this is basically

from the trailer, but Samuel L. Jackson heads

an organization that takes foster kids or Orphans

or whatever and then trains them as assassins

from a very young age like three or four and

It's just like this whole covert organization

that he's training kid assassins and I thought

it was gonna be like take one part Kingsman and

like one part I don't know Hitman and then one

part something like kick ass or something like

that and like put it all together and that is

not what this film was. This film does not know

what it wanted to be. This film even plays, because

basically instead of that what you get is you

get Hayley Seinfeld's character who escapes from

the organization and then just tries to be a

normal person in a high schooler and it turns

into wanting to be, she even references like

She wants to know what it's like to be in high

school, and so she watches, there's like a whole

montage of her watching movies, and she watches

Clueless, and she watches Mean Girls, Breakfast

Club, Bring It On, and like two or three other

films that she watches. 10 Things I Hate About

You. And then the film proceeds to try to be

all of those films. Which ends up with the whole

thing being a complete failure. I guess parts

of it were entertaining maybe a little bit or

something but it didn't know what it wanted this

identity to be and it ended up just being very

bad and there was no performances that were good

there was this was just a bad film I don't know

Amanda what did you think overall? I thought

it was crap I mean it It wasn't even one of those

fun teen dramas. I think it made fun of that,

but didn't do a good enough job of being funny.

I think that the dialogue throughout was just

total trash and weak, and I think that Sansa

Stark's character was completely outrageous,

really. I mean, she had no tact, and she wasn't...

There was no redeeming qualities, I think, in

her character whatsoever. I don't even think

the action was that great. I think it was supposed

to be centered around an action feel. Yeah, it

definitely took place in a high school that I've

never seen. kids act the way that they did in

this high school. Even the parents were awful

like just like facilitating drinking and partying.

It was all the stereotypes. It took every type

of parent that's ever been in one of those movies

and just exaggerated it to stupid stupidity levels.

I mean this movie's not good. Save your money

and save your time. I would give this one a three

out of ten. What about you? I gave it a four

out of ten being kind of generous because I think

it did have a couple funny moments. But that's

about it. All right, Amanda. What about I know

you had two other films that you saw on your

own Why don't you talk about one of those real

quick? I think I only saw one other That by myself

and I'd be 50 shades of gray so I finally got

to Experience that I definitely didn't want to

give it my money in the theater But I did rent

it just so I could give my take on it my own

review And I don't think the content of the movie

was so bad, but I do think the Acting was just

awful in it Just painfully awkward And I think

the dialogue was just stupid just so stupid some

of the things that Christian Grey says are just

ridiculous like right out of the gate He just

he's dropping all these innuendos and she's kind

of sitting there like dirt not picking them up

and and just being her weird awkward self and

there was a nasty bush and I just found myself

a lot of the times going, uh, okay, really? I

mean, not like the sex scenes. I think the sex

scenes were pretty cool. Some of the stuff they

did, I was like, all right, not hatin', but as

far as the dialogue and the acting and some of

the submissive dominance aspects, I was just

like, I don't know if that's real life. Yeah,

it was just awkward. I think that if they would

have gotten... anybody else to play these two

characters, it would have been awesome. Alright,

so rave review and what was your score for Fifty

Shades of Grey? I'll give it a 5 out of 10, just

because it had some cool steamy scenes, but at

one point when she goes in the red room, she's

touching all this stuff, like whips and stuff

that ties people up, and I'm just like, oh bitch,

are you just going to act like that doesn't need

to be Lysol before you touch it? It was just,

yeah, I just didn't feel like it was real. I

just couldn't get into it. All right. Sad I missed

that one. Are you? No. Dan, what else did you

see? Well, I'll give at least one positive review

today. And it's another documentary. And it's

one I didn't really, I don't know. I kind of

just threw on. It was on Hulu. And I wanted to

see. It was one called Fake It So Real. And it's

about this. town in North Carolina. Well, the

centers are on these guys who kind of developed

their own independent wrestling federation. And

let's just say they don't necessarily look like

the guys you would see in WWE or anything like

that. Out of shape, a lot of them. It's you and

me and everybody else that's doing podcasts.

Pretty much, yeah. It'd be like if you got a

podcast wrestling federation. It's kind of similar

to that. but you know what though like the documentary

does kind of end up making them somewhat endearing

and you get to kind of learn like why they're

so much into this independent wrestling federation

that like you know they put in it's like in some

little town gym and where they have you know

a crowd of maybe 75 people or so but 75 people

that do seem to be really in it into it and uh

you know they put their all in I think the correlation

to podcasting actually, maybe that's why I ended

up liking it, because you did see people who,

you know, doing something that maybe some people

don't understand, but they really get something

out of it, and they put their all into it, and

they're proud of what they put out. And so I

found the characters in it were actually all

pretty intriguing, and they had some good stories.

It's weird at times, and the people are a little

strange, and there's this one guy in particular

that... His he's not his he's notable as a wrestler

because his butt is really big so that becomes

like a key element to his character and The main

the main I would say focus of it is this younger

guy. He's like 19 He's trying to break into this

federation and it's you know, he's trying to

be become you know a good wrestler and but his

story was was endearing but all the all the people

in it though you're kind of I don't know, there's

always something about them that you're wondering

about. You're like, I'm pretty sure some of these

people have been arrested a few times, but I

would recommend it. Even if you're not a wrestling

fan, because I think it does paint the picture

pretty well. Wrestling is a focal point, but

it's just really about people trying to, you

know, finding something they love and finding

a way to express it. I don't think wrestlers

have ever been accused of being completely mentally

stable. That's true. That's very true. And especially

when you have these people who are physically

hurting themselves for nothing. They're not making

any money or anything like that. So the money

they make from people coming to the show is just

money they have to put back into... putting show

up exactly for renting the room. If you don't

have good insurance through the WWE, that's not

a good thing. Alright, that's an interesting

one. I have to check that one out. It was fake,

it's so real. I'd give it a 6 .5 out of 10. Alright,

so that's your positive review, the 6 .5. Yeah,

sorry. That's a good couple weeks we've had.

I'm going to turn it positive for the next two

that we talk about and then Amanda has one on

her own. I'm not sure if that's getting a positive

or not. I haven't heard yet. But the next one

we'll talk about is a film we saw together and

that would be a film entitled Woman in Gold from

2015 starring Ryan Reynolds and what's the ladies

name? I'm not the right person to ask that. Um,

it's not Helen Mirren. It's, uh... It was Helen

Mirren. It is Helen Mirren. I have the right

person. I thought I was going to say the wrong

person. The lady from Driving Tests? I don't

know. So, anyways, obviously this is the story

of Helen Mirren's character and she was a, uh,

someone who fled. the Europe during the Holocaust

and got to America and now she is trying to reclaim

a family heirloom, a piece of art that was done

by her aunt. No, of her aunt. Of her aunt. A

painting done of her aunt that the family owned

that was stolen by the Nazis and it's kind of

her quest to try to return that to its rightful

place. It's currently in Austria and she's trying

to get that back and Ryan Reynolds plays the

young green lawyer attorney that is going to

try to help her get that back. It's an interesting

story. Obviously, stolen art is a huge element

of what happened during that time period and

there's been a couple different films in recent

years that have kind of touched on that. This

one was definitely very interesting. It's interesting

to see kind of the legal side of it and kind

of the battles that they were trying to do and

what process they had to go through. They basically

tried to, this is not really a spoiler, but they

tried to appeal to authorities in Austria to

get the painting back and kind of the struggles

that they go through with that and the ridiculous

red tape that's in their way to try to do anything

from that angle so then they have to kind of

resort to some other means and try to find some

loopholes and different things that they can

do from from the US and it's just kind of the

story of that It's funny at times. I mean, it's

not at all, in any way, a comedy or anything

like that. But I do find Helen Mirren funny throughout

this film. Just the way she speaks, her dialogue,

the way she acts to Ryan Reynolds, I thought

was pretty humorous. But I actually like this

movie a lot more than I think Amanda did. I'm

not a huge Ryan Reynolds fan, but I thought he

was pretty good in this. And I just found the

whole story pretty interesting and intriguing.

I'm sure that there's a lot of people would say

that it's a little cliche or you know cheesy

at times or whatever but didn't really get my

way too much I would probably give this one I'm

gonna be just like Dan and I'd probably say I'd

give this one like a six and a half out of 10,

so I found it favorable. I think it's worth a

watch if you like any of the people that are

in it or if you like kind of looking more at

that aspect of what was going on during the Holocaust

and World War II. So, six and a half for me.

Amanda, what did you think of it? I just found

myself getting a little bored with this movie.

Well, probably quite a bit I found myself getting.

so I don't think I was as high as you. I think

it did have a couple good aspects. Definitely

the feels a couple times. Definitely interesting

to see this particular struggle. Not something

I think you see a lot of in film. And I think

that Ryan Reynolds did play a character that

was... Lot different from what we normally see

him as so I thought that was interesting I give

it I would say probably a four point five five

out of ten just because of how bored I did get

quite a few times All right, so mixed reviews

for woman and gold. What about the other one

that you saw on your own? I did get a chance

to check out hot pursuit finally I think I was

a huge fan of The Heat. I still am. I will re

-watch that a ton of times and laugh just as

much each time. I feel like this movie definitely

wanted to do what The Heat did, but failed. I

think Reese Witherspoon was really weak. Her

character was awkward, not relatable, not well

done. I think Sofia Bagaria, what her name is?

I think she did really well, but I think that

was definitely in her comfort zone, in her wheelhouse

as far as how she acts. I think she steps up

a little bit for this film. Good for her. I think

the film as a whole though was pretty poopy.

I'm gonna give it a 4 out of 10. I did get a

couple laughs out of it, but it definitely didn't...

didn't live up to the heat caliber by any means.

All right, so you're not on board with Hot Pursuit.

No. All right, that's where you draw the line

on those films. I do, yeah. Dan, anything else

that you saw besides your homework? No, all I

have is my homework left. All right, we have

one film left to talk about then, and I guess

in this whole discussion it will be also the

most positive we're probably going to be. out

of all of the films that we're talking about

so far, and that would be 2015's Straight Outta

Compton. Amanda, let's start with you. What did

you think? How did you like it? What were the

good, the bad, and the ugly on this one? I think

it had all of the above. The good, the bad, and

the ugly. I think it showed all those aspects

of their life and their struggle up to this point.

And I think that... It definitely struck a lot

of emotional chords and I have a new rule if

dr. Dre is crying in a movie I'm gonna have to

freaking cry in that movie at that time. I think

that How many times will that rule come into

play? I don't know. You never know So I I think

that I enjoyed this movie. I think it was a touch

long, but it definitely Could have been fleshed

out in a As far as their relationships go, all

of a sudden they have wives and girlfriends and

things like that. They didn't really flesh that

out too much, but they did show the permissiveness

activity and their partying and they were really

true to form, I think, to their stories and the

NWA struggle and how that came about and how

politically... Tied up everything was too. So

I think that everything that it wanted to do

it definitely did and I I've been thinking a

lot about this movie I haven't seen a lot of

buzz about this movie and I would definitely

give it a 7 out of 10 not a perfect score I think

it did have some some holes, but it it Did what

it sought out to do? Yeah, I mean I think You

have an interesting project here because this

was produced by Dr. Dre and by Ice Cube. And

so you kind of go in not knowing how much of

a spin they're going to put on it or how true

to form this is going to be. But I think one

of the biggest bonuses was that up to a point

they did show the good and bad sides of a lot

of the things going on here. I'll get more into

that in a second. I think probably the strongest

thing about this film is the performances. the

performances by these guys that are playing Dr.

J and ice cube and easy and even uh... uh...

the couple of the other guys should make i think

that i think the casting was so spot on it's

ridiculous yeah i mean i we did not realize that

ice cube's son was playing ice cube we just thought

he looked exactly how did they find someone who

looks so much like him that's his son uh... but

everybody the only casting mistake i think in

the whole thing and i will call that out i guess

spoiler alert if you don't know that there's

gonna be cameos for multiple rappers involved

in this uh... in this movie would be who on earth

cast that guy as Snoop Dogg? Snoop Dogg is a

giant. He's like six foot eighty. He is super

tall and I've never seen him on TV or anything

where he doesn't tower over everybody. And they

cast somebody that was like five, six to play

Snoop Dogg, I swear. I don't quite understand

that one, but everybody else that they cast was

absolutely phenomenal as far as the look goes.

And then those main guys really pulled off the

actual performance. Paul Giamatti was good as

well. So I think that was one strength. I think

the biggest... thing for me like I said as well

as probably a bunch of other people is just the

learning about more about this the intrigue the

educational aspect of kind of getting to see

how it came together who was doing this like

I never knew which one was writing the lyrics

I never knew which one was you know doing each

aspect of it and kind of behind the scenes who

who should get more credit for this or that so

I thought that all was very interesting where

I knock it down maybe a peg or two it probably

does come from the fact that that Dr. Dre and

Ice Cube were somewhat producing it because I

think they did kind of pull a couple things to

not show themselves in the worst light. I think

they touch on a couple of these things but they

don't necessarily show some of maybe the more

gruesome details of it. I don't think you'd come

out of this movie and realize that Dr. Dre threw

some female reporter through a door and basically...

abused the crap out of her. Like, you'd come

out of that movie and think, no, he wouldn't

do that if you didn't know anything more about

it. And just some of the other aspects of that,

like you were saying, as far as the development

of their families and girlfriends and wives,

they just kind of basically appear and you kind

of got to put two and two together to figure

out who's who. So I think there's some of that.

And I think the other thing that a lot of biopics

sometimes struggle with is trying to cover too

much of a time span. and so a lot of the stuff

does get maybe a little bit glossed over and

I think maybe if they would have focused a little

bit more on certain aspects and kind of flushed

it out a little bit more it would get even higher

score for me but all that said I still thoroughly

enjoyed the experience of watching the film and

I would give this one a seven and a half out

of ten. I had to go just a little bit above you,

so 7 .5 out of 10 for me. I definitely recommend

this to anybody, whether you like NWA or not,

whether you were exposed to it as a kid or not.

It's something that I knew who they were, but

I didn't know any of the songs and I didn't know

any of the behind the scenes and I still enjoyed

it, so I would recommend it to just about anybody

out there. Alright, I think that means it is

time. for the homework assignments. Dan, I made

a flub last week and tried to assign you something

from 1971. I apologize for that. Rotten Tomatoes

certainly had the title and then a parenthesis

that said 2012 and I didn't realize. that they

did that at times and must have been some type

of date of some other release of that. I don't

know, I got fooled. So we let you switch it to

one of my other choices. So how was the homework

assignment and what did you watch for the people

that are listening? So yeah, he had a few choices

and I ended up going with one that oddly enough

I had the DVD of which was another year which

I got years ago and from like when Blockbuster

is going out of business and you have to watch.

So now I had a reason to and it's directed and

written by Mike Lee. uh who is someone who I

really need to kind of catch up with because

I've not watched a lot of his stuff but the premise

of it is that uh Jim Broadbent and Ruth Sheen

play this really happy couple that uh that kind

of uh have four separate account uh accounters

with with family members each for one season

and like basically these family members kind

of bring their problems and their issues and

it's just a lot of uh conversations and the one

movie that i was reminded of it's like the british

version of ostrich oasis county but maybe not

as heavy as dramatic but it it does get uh it

does get kind of uh uh melodramatic but not not

not in a bad way there's a lot of drama going

on here but you know some people mentioned it

as a comedy and there are comedic parts points

to it, but I would think it's more of a dramedy.

It's a mixture of it. But it's a very British

film in that aspect. It does not hide its British

roots, and it feels like a lot of references

and a lot of what's being said would make more

sense if you're a lot more aware of that culture.

But I found it's a really great place of life

film. These characters feel rich. The dialogue

is great. It's really smartly written. the layout

of the different four seasons I think it makes

a lot of sense when you really need to know these

characters so anything the comedy does add a

nice bit of levity to it so I just found it really

delightful is the word that kind of came to mind.

I just, I thought the only thing it lacked was

kind of focus. It was kind of all over the place

at times. So, uh, but like I wasn't triggered.

I definitely, like I said, need to, I get to

watch Mr. Turner, which I think he did last year,

which I've heard good things about. So I would,

I would recommend this. It's probably the best

thing I've watched in a while. And I would give

it like a 7 .5, eight out of 10. And, uh, I'm

actually really glad I finally had a reason to

watch the DVD. So. Alright, so we succeeded in

at least allowing you to watch something that

was sitting on your shelf. Exactly, collecting

dust, yeah. Yeah, which there's a lot of films

on my shelf that are doing the same thing, so

I need to do some of that as well. Alright, so

that was your best reviewed film of the two weeks.

We'll have to try to repeat that with our homework

assignment for next week. The homework assignment

that you gave us, you gave us a choice again

of a bunch of different films and Amanda picked

the Paul Rudd joint and that would have been

Prince Avalanche. And this had Paul Rudd and

Emile Hirsch in it. It is a story of these two

guys who are employed as road, I don't know what

the technical term is, road stripers. I'm going

to go with road strippers, who are painting stripes

on a road. These road crews, as they call them.

In an environment that has been obviously besieged

by wildfires and kind of destroyed a lot from

that. And it's just kind of the story of their

interactions with each other as they work, I

believe what was going to be like a summer job,

basically, or a seasonal job. And he is also,

Emile Hirsch is the brother of Paul Rudd's girlfriend

during the film. So Dan, you've seen this film,

I believe, right? Yes. Alright, I wanted to start

by getting your thoughts and opinions on the

film and then we'll kind of go after that. It's

been a while since I watched it, but I just thought

it was, I don't know, welcoming is like the word

that kind of comes to mind. And it's a movie

that I kind of like, because I tend to like movies

that are... have less focus on plot more focus

on characters and I like the characters and I

thought Emile Hirsch and Paul Rudd were a lot

of fun together and had some good comedic moments

and also one of my favorite scenes of the year

that this came out was the scene when they're

going to the rebel in like the burnt -out house

and I think too there's been a lot of talk about

it's if what's really happening in the movie

and if there's maybe some more supernatural or

if you know perchance maybe they're making a

lot of the stuff up and maybe they're like the

last two people on earth or something like that

but I don't know I ended up just really liking

it it's not you know an all -time great film

or amazing but I thought like it's just it goes

that easy for me at least when I watched it This

is an interesting one too because it has a definite

split on Rotten Tomatoes. I believe it has like

an 83 or an 85 as far as critics go and it has

like a 51 or a 53 as far as audiences go. So

there's definitely a split crew out there. We'll

start with Amanda. What did you think about Prince

Avalanche and Emile Hirsch and Paul Rudd? I don't

think I'm gonna go sugarcoat this too much. I

did not like it at all. I was freaking bored

the whole time. I really wanted to like it. I

thought that it could be cool, but I think the

dialogue just... was super watered down and I

couldn't get much out of it. I couldn't really

relate to either of the characters whatsoever.

I don't think a lot happened. I think that it

was kind of confusing because I couldn't pin

down what was really happening, what was a figment

of their pill -popping drunken state. I didn't

really know what the point of a lot of what they

were doing was. I think that Paul Rudd's character

was probably the most intriguing. And I found

that trying to figure him out during this movie

is what kept me going. Other than that, I was

just kind of waiting for it to be done. I didn't

get a lot out of this movie at all. I'm gonna

give it a 2 out of 10. I think the best scene

for me in the movie is... the opening scene when

they put the title up, but they used the tapping

of the hammer to kind of spell out the name of

the movie itself. I don't think there was a lot

in this that I could really get on board with.

All right. I think I'd start with the positives.

And the positives for me, I do think that it's

a real good There's nothing wrong with acting

in this film. There's nothing wrong with the

acting of Paul Rudd. There's nothing wrong with

the acting of Emile Hirsch. And I'm going to

forget the name of the older gentleman that appears

recurring throughout the film. But there was

nothing wrong with any of those acting performances.

I think those were spot on. I think they were

definitely doing what those characters were being

asked to do. And I can see Dan, too, as far as

the idea that this is a character piece and that

you're... on this journey with these two characters

and kind of learning the ins and outs about them

personally, as well as their interactions with

each other and kind of what they're striving

for or how it changes the arc throughout the

film. A couple things I was a little bit thrown

off by slightly is, oh, before I get to that,

one other thing. I like the dialogue as far as

the line about the... comparison between love

and a ghost and how I think they say like love

is like a ghost you hear everybody talking about

it but not you know but it's very rare to actually

find it and stuff like that and I thought that

was a pretty clever piece of dialogue I was a

little thrown off by the whole aspect of the

of the fire of the fires and the wildfires and

all of that because they put that on there in

the opening text and they obviously refer to

it in the scene, Dan, that you're talking about

with the walking through the rubble and etc.

And I think it does play a part in kind of what

you guys are alluding to with trying to figure

out what's real and what's not. But I think if

you take that opening text out about the setting

of the stage of the wildfires, and if you take

that one scene from the rubble out of the film,

I don't think you would watch this film and at

the end have any idea that that was a part of

the story or a part of the setting. Maybe I'd

have to sit on that a little bit more, but I

just wasn't sure about that being a connective

tissue or a connective string throughout the

whole film, but maybe I missed some stuff that

I should have gotten out of it. Like I said,

I think some of it... and trying to figure out

what's real, what's not, etc. might have sidetracked

my brain during parts of it. But I just kind

of wasn't sure of that element being included

and what the point of that was or if that had

anything to do with the story besides setting

the kind of tone and the atmosphere that's going

on there. I did find part of it intriguing like

you guys were talking about when they are walking

through the rubble and we actually had to rewind.

It feels weird saying rewind when you're on a

DVD or Blu -ray to me. It's not like the old

VCR where you're actually winding something.

But we had to backtrack a couple different times,

especially in that last scene where the older

lady is getting in the truck to figure out if

she was visible in the entire sequence or if

she disappeared at some point and trying to figure

out who's seeing her and who's not. So I think

there are some intriguing elements that kind

of lend to what you were saying, Dan, kind of

the whole... question of trying to figure out

like are these the last two people on earth?

Is everything pretend? Is everything a figment

of their imagination or is everything actually

happening like it is and are the old people see

now? So I mean I think there's some intriguing

questions there. I think my biggest problem with

the film is I have no problem with character

pieces. I have no problem watching one or two

characters go throughout a film in a certain

setting and kind of following their arc and learning

about them. But in order to do that, I think

I need a little bit more clever dialogue or a

little bit more of a thematic presence or something

from an emotional standpoint that's going to

pull a chord with me. And I didn't get that from

this. I can see how you're kind of saying it's

easy to swallow. If I'm going to be on the trip

for four or two people in this kind of secluded

environment and just do the character study,

I want to either have a thematic element that

I'm intrigued by, have some type of emotional

connection to something that's going on, or be

at least entertained with some clever, witty,

unique dialogue. And I didn't feel like I got

any of that. See, I would disagree. a lot with

the dialogue aspects. I think there are a lot,

and I think it's a lot about what's not said.

And I think there is a lot of great themes here,

relationships, and how we deal with that. And

I think, too, it's very atmospheric. And you

say that there isn't any ties together with the

whole fires. And I think that, to me, is very

much what it's about. It's basically looking

into what's the importance of, like, our relationships

with one another. When everything's gone in that

aspect. It's not a movie that is about plot.

It's not a movie that's about necessarily narrative.

And I think it's getting into just, when you

trim that away, what are you left with? And I

think that's what it gets into. And I love how

it leaves it open and there's a lot of questions

there and it doesn't point things out to you.

Yeah, I like that aspect of it as well. I mean,

yeah. No, I like that part too. I like that it

leaves it open for interpretation. That's probably

my favorite part of the whole film. Outside of

the, you know, I think the performances, like

I said, are really spot on as well. So, I mean,

I think it has elements, but for me it just wasn't,

I didn't find the, I get what you're saying as

far as the connection there with the wildfires

and everything being gone and kind of what's

important in life, what's not, you know, as this

relationship, you know. goes away, etc., and

kind of dealing with what's left in the aftermath.

For both characters, I kind of get all that.

I just was hoping for maybe a little bit more

along the way to get me something that I could

emotionally or personally connect to, and I just

couldn't find that connection was my problem.

I'm not saying it's not going to be there for

somebody else. Somebody else might find the connection

or be more invested in it, but me personally,

I just couldn't latch on to something to make

it a fun experience along the way. way besides

watching the acting and trying to figure out

what was really going on. That was my main take

on it. Amanda, what did you give this one? Two

out of ten. Two out of ten. You forgot already.

I wanted to make sure. I think I'm probably right

in that range. Maybe a three. out of 10 for me,

just because like I said, I just didn't find

something I could latch on to. I know, Dan, you're

disappointed. I'm sorry. Hey, you're right on

pace with all the critics. It's got 85 % on Rotten

Tomatoes, so we're definitely in the minority.

And like I said, I think if it speaks to you

personally or... I had a feeling you're not gonna

like it, because I know you really... This is

kind of the films you... Because I know you tend

to dislike movies that don't. tend to have a

cohesive narrative, or that's not their focal

point. So that was kind of my concern going into

it. But I thought I'd give it a chance. No, I

think it was definitely worth a shot. And I was

interested to see it's another side of Paul Rudd,

too, that we're not as exposed to. I mean, I

think he's done other roles to show the non -comedic

side, but it's not something you get a lot of.

So I thought it was fun to watch. to see that

side of it and I was definitely intrigued on

it and I think it was an interesting film to

watch and I'm still, like I said, I don't think

I'm opposed to films that shy away from the narrative

but it's gotta be the right one I guess for some

reason, I don't know. I want you to keep trying,

I'll find one and I'm gonna watch some of the

other stuff that I probably... Poop on the other

stuff that the directors or or whoever have done,

but I'm open to watching more of it. So Eventually,

I'll break through. So what did you have for

us for next week? Oh now I'm worried Don't be

worried. We're up for watching anything Except

for the Serbian film. I'm not watching that.

I have not seen that You said you're a Matt Mickelson

fan, correct? Yes, so I have a movie with Matt

Mickelson. I have one Uh, starring Jack Black,

uh, and let's see which one to, and since we

are doing action adventure, I also have, there's

not much great action adventure available on

Netflix, but there are some good foreign films.

There's a samurai film and then there's a martial

arts epic. And then there is a kind of a Korean

Western, if that makes any sense, but it's a,

it's a Korean remake of a classic American Western.

Alright, so we got martial arts, Jack Black,

Mads Mikkelsen, and what was the other one at

the end? In a martial arts epic. It's a story,

let's say it loosely involves Bruce Lee. Well,

no, I wouldn't even say that. It's kind of a...

It's a martial arts epic, but more in, say, pre

-World War II time. Gotcha. Amanda? Which one

appeals to you the most? Well, I got to speak

last time, so you can go ahead and make this

time. I'm really tempted to do one of the martial

arts ones just to try to get some more exposure

to that, but I'm going to go with the Mads Mikkelsen

film. Have you seen The Hunt? Yes, I have seen

The Hunt. I don't know if Amanda probably hasn't

seen it. I would be willing to watch it again

for her because she has not seen it, but I have

seen it. And I gave it really positive reviews.

So I'll just say that was it and that one you

liked. There is another Matt Mickelson film,

but I think you would hate it. I don't think

you'd even come out in this decade. That's Vahal

Rising. Isn't that on Netflix, too? Yeah, it

is. I think I started to watch that. I think

you would give that a negative score. How about

one starring Michael B. Jordan? Yeah, sure, why

not. Have you seen Fruitvale Station? I have.

I gotta get you the list of my movies. Have you

seen Fruitvale Station? What? Fruitvale Station.

No. Alright, well we're gonna watch one of those

and let Amanda get exposed to one of those for

sure. And maybe I'll give you one if you get

a chance. Go with The Good, The Bad, and The

Weird. It's a Korean remake of The Good, The

Bad, and The Ugly. All right. We've got a bunch

of different films that we can tackle here. That

sounds good. I am going to take a chance and

say that since you have not been out seeing a

lot of films this year, that you have not seen

this 2015, I believe it's a 2015 release, so

I'm going to go with one from this current year.

It is available on Redbox, I believe. It's also

out on DVD, so it's available at any type of

video rental store or... Like I said, I know

it's available on Redbox and I'm pretty sure

you frequent those from time to time. So I'm

not giving you a choice this week unless you're

not able to get to a Redbox and I can try to

find something streaming for you. But that would

be also a Mads Mikkelsen film. So unless you've

seen this and I just didn't know about it, it's

one that we're actually currently watching and

then it would give us something that all three

of us had also watched for our next episode.

We're not quite through. Is it The Thrillvation?

Yes. I've seen it, yeah. Oh, you have seen it.

Okay. All right. You threw me off. All right.

Well, the other one was going to be one of the

ones that was on my list from your choices that

you picked from last week. And you actually referenced

it because it's also from, it has the connection

to the film that you saw this week. And I just

have to check to see if it's streaming. But that

would be Mr. Turner. I have not seen that. Okay.

And that is from the same director, right? Yeah,

that is. Okay, so you said you wanted to catch

up with more from him. So here's an opportunity

to catch up with another one. And I believe last

I checked it was available on Amazon, but I can't

say that it currently is, but it was when I checked.

I think it's in red box too, so it's fine. Okay.

All right. So Mr. Turner for you. And we got

a bunch of them that we can see. I'm interested

in all of them, actually, and seeing that man's

reaction to them. So, all right, coming up this

next week, we have the Blu -ray release of Aloha.

That's pretty much it. And we already talked

about the theater releases with American Ultra,

Sinister 2, Hitman, Agent 47, a couple other

ones that might be going straight to video on

demand would be Learning to Drive, I believe

that's Ben Kingsley in there, Digging for Fire,

Some Kind of Beautiful, She's Funny That Way,

and Shanghai. Dan, is there anything in any of

those that intrigues you in the least? I like

Drinking Buddies a good amount. I like Drinking

Buddies. I did not like Happy Christmas. Yeah,

Happy Christmas was a little bit of a... Man,

that movie was depressing as all. I like Jake

Johnson, so I'm hoping that he'll get it back

with Digging for Fire. Amanda, your pick, Hitman?

I don't know if I want Hitman or Sinister more.

I'm gonna go with Hitman just because I think

Sinister is gonna make me pee myself a little

bit. Have you watched The First Sinister or have

you yet to watch it? Yeah, it creeps me out way

hardcore. And then what she does is she watches

them by herself. Because Kevin is too chicken

shit to watch them with me. You always watch

them before I'm even home, which is a good thing.

If I had to pick, I guess I'll take my chances

and watch Aloha. I know it's got terrible reviews

from a lot of people, but there's been some good...

semi -good reviews on it, and I just want to

see what everyone's talking about and make my

own opinion on it. I'm sure it'll be bad, but

I'd watch Aloha, I guess. Plus, if you look at

the movies that have been becoming available

to rent or to watch in August, there is nothing

to watch. So, I guess it's literally marketed

as the biggest release in August for the video

store. That's that Dan any questions for the

listeners this week I guess Is there any chance

that see like you asked us the question if Lego

Batman has any chances being as good as the original

Lego movie Maybe that would be a good one for

people. Yeah That'd be good. What's your anticipation

compared to the Lego movie for those people that

liked it or didn't like it? Are you looking more

or less forward to Batman Lego movie and what

chances does it have at the box office or critically

to stack up to that one? And then, as always,

we'll take a quick second to pimp out our Quentin

Tarantino retrospective. It is coming to a close,

so by the time this airs, we will just have the

Django Unchained episode, and then our final

episode where we will be doing some fun wrap

-up of the entire... process and kind of how

we've gone from there and I think the only other

piece of business Dan we got to take care of

before we get out of here is taking a look at

the time capsule results. So I'm gonna pull it

up and get the up -to -date just to see if there

was any last -minute voting that took place because

I know originally there was a little bit of a

gap and then as each day went it was closing

in tighter and tighter between all of us. So

I'd be interested to see what the final results

are. And the total over the 10 or 11 days that

we had, we got 63 votes. I was somewhat impressed

that we had that many people chime in. So definitely

thanks to all of those that voted out there.

And at 24 % of the votes would be Dan, your time

capsule, with 15 votes. And then we had Amanda

with 22 votes at 35%. And then my time capsule

had 26 votes for 41%. So 26 to 22 to 15 would

have been the final tally. Amanda almost creeped

up and took you. I feel like mine, I feel like

it's a cheap win because I feel like I just have

like a couple like uh, I put Lion King in there

and I think that got me like five points. Yeah,

Lion King kicking back to the future in Star

Wars, I think, with the keys. I just have more

name recognition. You should have just put Transformers

in there, you probably would have swept it. Right,

I would have had like 60 votes and you guys would

have had one each from yourselves. No, I'm just

kidding. Amanda and I. we're testing it and didn't

know for ourselves, so that doesn't count. So

it should be 25 to 21 to 15. Anyway. Alright,

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