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Jurassic World Review

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About this Episode

The hosts discuss their experiences with Jurassic World, analyzing the film's theme park setting, the performance of Chris Pratt, and their differing opinions on the child actors. They also cover box office trends, share their thoughts on the new Scream TV series mask, and provide updates on upcoming trailers like The Martian, The Walk, and Bridge of Spies.

Starscream here, and I am the lord and master

of the Geekcast Radio Network. Don't tell Megatron.

Today on episode 59 of The Cinema Geeks, we discuss

who we meet to cast as the next James Bond. We

talk about the tradition of box office record

breakers. We have casting news for you for Ghostbusters

and Star Wars. We have tons of trailer talk for

movies like The Martian, The Walk, Everest, and

Bridge of Spies. In our main attraction, we look

at the record holder itself. Jurassic World.

All that and more coming up on episode 59 with

the Cinema Geeks. That's right, it is episode

59 of the cinema geeks and as you heard we have

a lot of stuff to talk about So we're gonna get

right into it. But first as a little mode of

introduction I am one of your hosts optimus solo

with me today is movie revolt Dan. Hello. Hey,

how's it going? Not too bad and will be joining

us shortly will be hard candy Mandy She is not

here at the moment, but she will be joining in

as soon as she is able so keep baited breath

for that so we will be the full team here very

shortly but before we get to all the good stuff

to talk about today, Dan, how has your week been

going? It's been going well. I've actually had

a lot of family come down over the weekend. I

have my brother -in -law and his girlfriend came

to visit. We did a few things with a nice little

food truck gathering which was a lot of fun and

then my brother and his wife and my Two nieces

and nephew came down. So it was a huge family

affair I went to the aquarium and all that good

stuff. So it's been been quite busy the last

last week or so Nice. What kind of food truck

was it? Well, they had a few of them I went with

a Greek food truck got myself a gyro or gyro

or whatever you say it nice Hiro, I've heard

too, so I don't know. Hiro, I think that's it.

Yeah, so actually interesting because I used

to work with someone who owned a Greek restaurant.

They said it didn't really matter. And they were

like legitimately Greek, so I was like, all right,

well if they don't care, then I don't think I

do. It just tastes delicious. I will make a point

to say it the different way every time I say

it. Exactly, exactly. But it was interesting

because instead of giving out names or having

names, they would give you a playing card. And

they would call you by your playing card, whatever

you're given. I guess that would be a little

bit different. But it was just really hot, so

it kind of came and left. But it was a pretty

good deal, because it's like 15 bucks, and it's

a beer tent, and it's unlimited beer. But I'm

old, so I don't drink that much, because I just

get tired and fall asleep. Right. How's your

week been going? Not too bad. You mentioned it

being hot. And it was either hot or raining.

I think I heard on one of the news stations at

some point this week that our area set a at least

for our area we set some type of record for the

most flash flood warnings in like a certain amount

of time period i don't know what the time period

was a week or a month or something like that

maybe for the year so far but we have like three

different flash flood warnings in the last couple

weeks so it was either raining or it was hot

and what happened was i had a bunch of yard work

to do and i had like one day where i was actually

off where it wasn't raining And so I was forced

to do it all on that day and it was probably

the hottest day so far this year. And so I was

like up on ladders cleaning out gutters and mowing

my yard and I think I took like three or four

like breaks which I don't ever do. I'm just like

I gotta go inside and do some air conditioning

for a minute before I fall off a ladder. Outside

of that I had some fun experience at work. We

lost power for six hours. Nice. So that's always

fun. It was the most bizarre power outage ever

though because literally half... of the business

had power and half of it didn't. But it made

absolutely no rhyme or reason or logical sense

as to what had power and what didn't. I literally

had two computers sitting next to each other

on a counter and one of them I had no power to

and one of them I had power to. And it was like

that throughout the whole place. The biggest

thing was though that all of the important things

were the ones that we had no power for. So it

was an interesting night. to say the least but

at one o 'clock in the morning we got our power

back so no problems there but it made for an

interesting week outside of that just dealing

with the fact that I am running out of time on

my rental car I have I have less than a week

now to use my rental car before I have to start

paying for it so I have to decide at what point

I'm going to be purchasing my replacement car

or how long I'm gonna go without a car so that's

always fun Luckily, Amanda has both her car and

a work van, so there is some wiggle room there,

so we're gonna see how long we can go before

it's time to bite the bullet and buy a new car.

The car that just got wrecked is literally the

only car that I've ever owned, and I had it for

14 years, so it's been a long time since I had

the... to deal with the idea of getting a new

car so I've got to get back in the game and figure

out how you do that. So that's the fun for me

but outside of that it's been a pretty normal

week. As we do every week we like to start with

the box office and our predictions from last

week and see what happened with those and then

make predictions for the next week. Apparently

I will apologize. I did not realize that my prediction

was gonna be as much of a slam dunk as it was.

I thought I was taking a chance. If you look

at the different movies that have released so

far this year, not many of them have made over

70 million in opening weekend, guys. Not many

of them. Fast and Furious, Avengers 2. I don't

know if there's been anything else that's made

over 70 million in opening weekend without looking.

So I thought saying, hey, Jurassic World, there's

some hype behind it. It seems like a decent film.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's going

to make more than 70 million. OK. Don't don't

fault me for for being ridiculously low on that

but I so I guess my prediction was correct It

should make more than 70 million Dan your prediction

and something to do with Cinderella, right? Yeah,

it was it was interesting because Cinderella

was like upping its theater count and I was actually

making more money like the increase it's a Rock

stuff was was increasing stuff out like you were

really trying to get that 200 million dollar

mark and it was so close to it. But They did

not quite get there. They're still eight Yeah,

eight hundred thousand away from it. So they

got close, you know, they put a value number

But it looks like they might be giving up because

our theater count is dropping once again So it

looks like you know, I know that you could you

really use that boost for for your for your dream

But unfortunately, I don't know if it's gonna

happen I don't think it's going to either, but

I need them to do exactly what they did this

last week three more whole weeks. That would

be their 17th week in the theater. I don't even

know if it should count at that point. But yeah,

so you just missed yours. And then Amanda tried

for something she was calling her Golden Tux.

Is that the right phrase from the movie? Yeah,

and so she was predicting the top five in order.

She actually got a couple of them in there that

were right But she had entourage being in the

top five and it was not in the top five this

weekend pitch perfect two Went from six back

up to five so that kind of messed her up even

if she had had the right five film So I was the

only one that had something right this week even

though it was seems like a cheap victory overall

so number one coming in this last weekend was

obviously Jurassic World with two hundred and

eight million. That's just mind -boggling. Spy

dropped from number one to number two, down to

15 million. So just a little bit of gap between

the first and the second place. finishers there.

San Andreas went down a spot as well. Insidious

Chapter 3 went down a spot. And then, like I

said, Pitch Perfect 2 actually went up a spot.

So those were your top five. This seems like

a silly question, Dan, but any surprises from

the box office this week? Yeah, I'm surprised

Spy made as much money as he did. No, I can't

believe, like, everything I was looking for,

I was like... world it was gonna do well but

that well is insane to me and I mean I guess

I guess it kind of makes sense when you think

of it because it's A, there's no competition

right now. There's nothing out there. It's a

movie that hits all the quadrants. I think you

can take kids to it for the most part, because

I remember watching the original Jurassic Park

when I was a kid. And there's a huge amount of

nostalgia for the original Jurassic Park. And

you have parents who now have kids who are bringing

them. So I think it's just this perfect storm,

and it ended up just exploding. Now I don't know

about your area in your neck of the woods, but

where I live this also would be the first The

first film released post school all the schools

around us are out now for the summer and I know

some states they go a little bit longer but all

the high schools and stuff like that in my area

have released for the summer so this would have

been the first weekend too where you had, at

least in my area, where you had a little bit

more access for kids to go during the day or

go without fear of having to abide by any type

of school schedule so we had that too and I think

the other thing that this shows us that maybe

people forgot is that I don't think it's going

to matter how many years pass or what time period

we're at. There's always going to be a love for

boys and dinosaurs. Boys love dinosaurs. So if

you put dinosaur movies out there... Usually

it's going to be good and I'm going to say that

and I'm going to stick my foot in my mouth later

if a good dinosaur doesn't do good. But maybe

that being an animated film it doesn't quite

equate. But I just think the wonder of having

these big screen dinosaurs on the big screen

in that type of epic fashion is always going

to have some type of draw to certain demographics.

We're going to get more into Jurassic World later

though so we'll save most of the rest of the

talk for that. I am surprised that... Pitch Perfect

2 went back up a little bit maybe, but the biggest

surprise obviously is the amount of money Jurassic

World made, but we will save that for a little

bit later. We can get into some predictions for

next week. I will start off, and I'm going to

make a very similar prediction. And I don't think

it's a gimme though, so don't give me a hard

time. Even if my prediction sounds almost identical

to last week's, I'm sticking with it, it worked

for me. I'm trying to dig my way out of the cellar.

And my prediction for next week will be the new

film, Inside Out, and I'm gonna put that one

above 70 million as well. So I'm gonna go with

two weeks in a row where we have an opening film

that does higher than 70 million. For... retrospect

that that would make it a pretty successful open

I think that puts it higher than both the Lego

movie and Big Hero 6 opened so it's not a slam

dunk so but that would be my prediction that

that Inside Out is going to make more than 70

million in its first weekend so what about you

Dan? Well, actually I'm gonna I'm gonna see your

inside out prediction I'm gonna raise you a little

bit and you say 70 I'm gonna I'm gonna go back

and if you look at the opening weekend for Toy

Story 3 which I think most people look at it's

probably maybe their Pixar slash really good

movie it made 110 million dollars its opening

weekend and Considering there's not that much

out left out and you know Pixar has been on a

downward trend of people been dying for a good

Pixar movie I'm gonna say that that uh... inside

out going to make more money as opening weekend

in Toy Story 3. Wow, that's a good one. See,

I didn't go back that far. I just looked at uh...

I looked at Big Hero 6 and the Lego movie uh...

as my comparables and the Toy Story 3 probably

is a better predictor so uh... that makes me

mad I didn't go with my other my other prediction,

which is going to be a unique one that we hadn't

done before. So I think you get bonus points

if you beat me on this one. So I think if you

win, I can't win. So I'll take from 70 to 100.

If it's more than Toy Story 3, I lose. I will

concede that right now and you'll be the only

winner in that. part of the the prediction so

uh... amanda what about you what do you got for

box office prediction next week uh... we got

inside out coming out we have uh... mangle horn

which will probably be more of a limited release

uh... infinitely polar bear probably another

limited release uh... dope uh... and obviously

the films that came out this last week what do

you think Well, I'm not as cool as you guys so

I am not even gonna go there with how much these

movies gross I'm gonna do a super lame prediction

and say that Jurassic World stays at number one

and inside out comes in at number two really

Interesting that would be that would be an intriguing

result and that would definitely make the other

prediction that I was gonna do Accurate, but

I'm gonna save that for another time. So I'm

not gonna give anything away. So those are the

predictions for for next week Getting into the

news is what we usually do next, so we will be

getting into some of your main news stories.

We have a bunch of them. We're not going to cover

all of them due to time restraints and whatnot,

so basically we're going to let you guys go back

and forth and pick a headline, and then we'll

go through as many as we can in the time that

we have. So looking at the different headlines

from the script, Amanda... Ladies get to go first

usually around here. So is there is there a headline

that you would like to start off with from this

past week of news? I think the one I was most

excited about is Thor is going to be Janine in

the Ghostbusters reboot So Chris Hemsworth has

signed on for the receptionist role Director

Paul Feig, is that what his last name is? Yes.

Well, he announced via Twitter and I quote our

receptionist with a picture of Chris Hemsworth.

So... Chris Hemsworth will have a shirt on in

this movie. You realize that, right? Not the

whole time. Chances are that he's at least gonna

get a glass of water spilled on him and he's

gonna have to take that off. It's highly likely.

Or like one of the girls is gonna be using like

one of the... Like a fire hose. No, like what

was the packs that they had? Proton pack? Proton

pack. One of the girls is gonna have like the

proton pack and accidentally like suck his shirt

off or something like that? Okay. But what if

he gets slimed? I'm still going to think it's

okay. I don't know if I can comment on this.

Dan, what do you think about Chris Hemsworth

joining the cast of Ghostbusters Reboot? Interesting.

I mean, he's a pretty funny guy. I mean, I think

he has a good sense of humor, even in Thor. I

think he has a good grasp on that. So very much

the opposite of the original Ghostbusters, but

it could be fun. I'm going to guess that he ends

up having some sort of love affair with Melissa

McCarthy because that would be wacky and silly.

All right. Dan, you're up next then. What's the

headline that you would like to investigate a

little bit further? Well, we teased it upfront,

so why not go with who might be the next James

Bond? Alright, so based on the article, you obviously

have a bunch of names thrown out there. What

would be, ask it two ways here. What would be

your preference out of the names thrown out,

or someone, if you're genius enough to come up

with someone that's not listed, and not just

who you want, but on the second part of that,

who do you think is most likely? The guy I've

been pointing to as of late, I think would be

James Bond, who was in Inimitation game and I

think he has kind of like that good sensibility

is Matthew good You know, he's kind of one of

those actors has been on a lot of things I know

they named a few people that I think would be

interesting, you know Idris Elba would be kind

of fun, but I think Matthew good is Has that

like old -school type of bond that I think he'd

be more so like the like a Timothy Dalton Maybe

I don't know but that's kind of my thought process

on it Okay. Amanda, do you have a preference

on who you can envision as the next James Bond?

My notes say new Bond has to be Colin Firth.

All right. He would make like an interesting

like Roger Moore type because he is like around

the same age as Emma was saying around when Moore

got the part, so. Yeah, and obviously the other

part of the article was talking about the possibility

of the first redhead. James Bond with Damian

Lewis, the name being mentioned for that, so

we'll have to see if that's the route they go.

I personally think Idris Elba, maybe that's just

because I'm a huge Idris Elba fan, but I think

that would be a lot of fun. Is that anything

to do with the fact that you appoint for him?

No, Dan, how dare you? Yes, it is. No, I also

just think it would be fun to actually put him

in a movie where he actually is a main character

and not keep teasing me with movies that they

say he's in that he's not really in. So, Dunman,

not to be mentioned here. All right, well, for

my first one... Let's just let's get the the

sad news out of the way first Dan I know you

kind of talked about this a little bit in length

I'm talking in circles, but I think it would

be We'd be silly if we're talking about movie

news as a podcast and we don't mention it. So

obviously we saw the passing of another big actor

in Hollywood this past week and Christopher Lee

and obviously that's that's a career that has

spanned a lot of decades and he's been a lot

of different characters, especially a lot of

classic and cool villains. So Dan, I was wondering

if, I don't think you mentioned it in your conversation

there, but do you have a favorite Christopher

Lee character that he played? Even though I don't

really love the movie all that much. I would

probably say scarabunga in the man with the golden

gun I think it's like one of the best bond villains

that or probably Saruman in in Lord of the Rings

Okay, you stole you stole the one that would

be for me though. It would definitely be Saruman

for me But that's not to say that he hasn't had

some some cool Some cool roles outside of that

Amanda you have a preference or? Familiar with

Christopher Lee? All I can think of is Saruman.

I know there's at least one or two more characters

when I was reading it, but... Count Dooku? Yes.

Yeah, I can get down to Dooku. That sounds weird.

And bad. I don't know how to respond to that.

But obviously, like, an iconic person in the

world of movies, and I don't know if anyone quite

played villains like he did then. No, just the

variety and the longevity, I mean... someone

from Dracula to, you know, Dooku. I mean, there's

certainly similarities with them, but, like,

I think he definitely, like, he played that role,

and I think a lot of actors today maybe are hesitant

to get known for doing a certain thing, but I

think when you're so good at it, like him, it's

hard not to be. Yeah, I think that, too, but,

yeah, he will definitely be missed, and unfortunately,

the interwebs, the Twitter world and the world

of the internet apparently doesn't... 100 % know

who Christopher Lee is. I don't know if you saw

this but there was one article out there that

was literally listing all of the different tweets

and Facebook posts that were like rest in peace

Christopher Lee and then they would have a link

to like Ian McKellen or to like somebody that

was not Christopher Lee and it was funny because

you can like go in and start reading the conversations

and they start getting attacked by like other

people that see it and they're like you know

that's not Christopher Lee right and they're

like yeah he is. So terrible. Not trying to make

light of it, but there's a lot of idiots out

there. So yes, back to you, Amanda. Is there

another headline that you'd like to bring up?

Yeah, MTV has unveiled the new mask for their

Screen TV series. And first of all, how did I

not know about this project happening? Not really

sure when it came about, but I have been ignorant

up until now to this article. was read earlier

today, so it's supposed to air later this month,

June 30th, and they finally put out a picture

of this new mask and they said that it strikes

out into new territory. I saw it, it's terrifying.

I am creeped out by it. I love the original screen

movies, big Wes Craven fan. 1996 is when the

movies started to come out. So I'm not really

sure if he's directing this show. I mean, it

sounded like he had some kind of hand in the

story. So I'm not sure if he's directing it or

not. So I need to do some more research and figure

out what's really happening. But the release

of this picture of this mask, I am freaked out.

And I want to watch it. Look at that thing. I

didn't know much about, well, the listeners can't

look at it. Talking to you. Okay. I don't know

about the whole scream TV series I didn't know

about it either and obviously it's a TV series,

but since it's based on a movie That's why we're

talking about it, but I don't know isn't the

mask like Too iconic? Well, like the mask, that

is Scream. That's synonymous with those films.

I get the reasoning that they're saying is that

it's not going to have the same characters as

the movies, so you can't have the same mask.

There's so many different ways. Since when has

logic stopped a horror film from doing something?

But the reasoning behind it, the new mask is

cool and scary and takes... the series into a

new direction. It also ties into the story, which

I won't give away, is what Wes Craven said about

it. Yeah, I just don't buy it, and I don't think

it's necessary to. I just, like, you can put

the same mask, and you can say, like, the relative

of somebody who came across it, or you can have

them find the mask somewhere. With American Horror

Story... and series like that coming out, they

need to bump up the wow factor, the scare factor.

Nobody's gonna be scared of the ghost face mask

anymore, and this new mask is friggin' terrifying.

Yeah, but to me it just looks too much like the

mask that you would see in the Jason film. It's

too much like the hockey mask. It's a combination

between the two of the Shatner mask and the hockey

mask. I don't know, I'm not a fan. Dan, what

do you think? Well, I kind of get why they are

changing it. Because I think it's something like,

you know, you had the scary movie film. So I

think they forever made that mask not scary now.

So it's hard to kind of evoke the same emotion

that you got from that originally. And the new

mask does look kind of creepy. So it looks, you

know, it has that still look to it. Disturbing

I I just don't know if we need screaming TV series

per se But I'm obviously not the the audience

since it's on MTV and I don't know the last time

I watched MTV because I'm an old fogey so See,

I think they lost their chance there. They could

have done a little meta moment where they acknowledged

that the original mask wasn't scary enough, like

they found it or whatever, and they're like,

yeah, but this is cheesy. You mean, they might

even try that, you know? They might actually

have it where it's not working, so they change

masks and stuff. Then I'd be all for it. Then

that fits in the horror genre for me. Cheesy

and... No matter what they do with the mask,

you are never going to watch this anyway, so

calm yourself. Probably true. Alright, Dan, that

brings it to you. You got a headline you want

to bring up next? Well, going the opposite realm

of Scream, the TV series, why not a remake for

Kindergarten Cop? Which seems unnecessary on

every level. That was one of the funnier headlines

I came across this week, for sure. But hey Arnold's

on the comeback, right? He's been on the comeback

for a while yet. He hasn't got there Apparently

this is the title of the article kindergarten

cop remake in development at Universal Pictures

So it would be with Arnold that would be I I

think that would be the thing here, it's saying

- No, The Force Negus Replacement will be a leading

man type with an Indian sidekick named Sanjeev.

Is that real? This has gotta be a joke. That

is legit. This has gotta be a joke. But it is

going to be, apparently, a direct -to -DVD sequel.

Well, Sanjeev's getting direct -to -DVD. Is this

gonna be done by WWE Films? Oh lord, if you keep

reading yikes I'm reading this straight guys,

but it's saying that the director who previously

had the direct -to -video sequel Jarhead 2 field

of fire I didn't know that existed first of all,

but will helm the remake from a script by the

person who wrote American Pie 2 and Apparently

this may be a jumping -off point for a potential

kindergarten cop television series. Oh. What?

Yeah. Are they trying to be 21 Jump Street or

whatever? That is the most ridiculous thing I've

ever heard. I just think it's interesting. It's

like an Indian pancake. He's like, what? Why

would you ask? Why would you even put that in

there? A leading man type. Not exactly a leading

man, but the type that could potentially be a

leading man. Like he's not a leading man on an

actual theater release film, but he's the type

that could be if he was someone completely different.

Like Sam Worthington, you know a guy you can

just put in there and doesn't really do anything.

You can't do kindergarten cop without tortured

anger, it's just not whatever. I think it should

be Mark Strong. I would watch a movie if it was

Mark Strong being a kindergarten teacher. Do

you ever see him in the real rock and roll of

just smacking the crap out of people? Yes. I'm

still trying to get over there was a direct -to

-DVD sequel to Jarhead. Yeah, sure. We'll go

with that. That's disturbing. I guess there was

a sequel to Desert Storm? I don't know. We're

going in all kinds of terrible places here. Alright,

let's go in a completely different direction

from direct to DVD. I know we kind of already

talked about it a little bit in the box office,

but I guess I didn't know this tradition existed,

so I thought it was clever and something that

I wanted to bring up, and this is going to be

one of those... news articles that's probably

terrible to bring up on an audio podcast like

this because nobody's going to be able to see

it but i promise you if you're listening right

now go to geocastradio .com click on the episode

post and there will be pictures of the stuff

that i'm talking about but uh... we talked about

jurassic world breaking the record in becoming

the uh... the all -time leader right now as far

as the first weekend in theaters And I didn't

realize it's kind of a long -standing tradition

where certain studios will kind of send a congratulatory

film took over the top spot. So what we got is

we got a character type artwork that was done

that's basically Marvel Studios congratulating

Jurassic World on being the new opening weekend

king. And it's a picture of Chris Pratt on the

Tyrannosaurus Rex. Holding Thor's hammer and

then the the Avengers are all kind of down at

the bottom looking befuddled and confused as

to as to what's happening and it was accompanied

by a tweet from Marvel had basically congratulating

The current of our Colin Trevorrow and Christopher

Pratt, etc uh... which is it which is cool and

that's what made the headlines but i didn't realize

this has been happening for a long time so uh...

it happened back when uh... when star wars took

over jaws uh... it happened when i'm sorry i

might have said that the wrong way yeah it happened

when star wars took over jaws it happened when

titanic took over star wars uh... i think when

et beat star wars 2 and star wars took it back

Right, yeah. So I mean the original one here

that I'm looking at, I don't know if this is

the first time it happened, but is a picture

of R2 kind of like on a beach with a fishing

pole and he's caught Jaws by the tooth. And it

says, Dear George, last week Star Wars moved

ahead of Jaws in domestic film rentals. Your

hyperspace performance package really did the

trick. Congratulations to the Cantina crowd and

all the forces of your imagination that made

Star Wars so worthy of the throne. Wear it well.

Your pal Steven Spielberg. pretty cool thing

and like I said and then George Lucas passed

it forward by doing the same thing with James

Cameron and it's a picture of the the Titanic

going down with like all the Star Wars characters

jumping off of it and then Princess Leia is doing

the old Titanic pose on the front of the ship

so did you know this is something that was kind

of done from time to time Dan? Yeah, I remember

it happening when Star Wars be like we reclaimed

it from ET back in like the 90s when they had

the re -release of Star Wars. I didn't realize

they did it I thought I knew they did it for

like overall all -time gross you know like for

domestic I didn't realize they did it for weekend

gross and that was news to me. Yes, I mean, that's

definitely interesting and definitely unexpected

that we would be talking about Jurassic World

and that grouping of all -time record holders.

I don't think anyone predicted that. We made

our box office predictions early on, Dan, and

I think we both had Jurassic World in our top

15 for sure. I know I had it below Avengers,

which I'm thinking maybe that wasn't a good choice.

But at least we had it in the list, so we're

probably at least right with that. All right,

we have a few more minutes, probably time for

one or two more headlines. Amanda, what do you

got next that you'd like to bring up? Let's go

with the Gambit X -Men spinoff movie, finally

has a director, Rupert Wyatt. And he also directed

Rise of the Planet of the Apes. And looks like

Gambit's gonna be opening on October 7th, 2016

with Channing Tatum bringing up the mantle for

Gambit here. So you managed to get a Chris Hemsworth

and a Channing Tatum. I most certainly did. Dan,

what do you think of that direction choice there

with Ruber Wyatt? Yeah, I mean, I definitely

liked his rise to the plane of the apes, so I

don't know him in super particular. But I think

it's, you know, Lisa, he has something going

for him. And he took a movie that shouldn't work

with Rise of the Planet of the Apes and made

it good. So I don't think a Gambit movie would

really work, but maybe we can make it work. But

it's going to work. I've been waiting so long.

And you guys all know how I feel about Planet

of the Apes. So if it's someone that had something

to do with that, I'm probably on board. So I'm

this guy outside of that film. So I will say,

yay for that. bodes well for your Gambit film,

so I'll watch it. Yeah, I'm right, you'll watch

it. Alright, Dan, last news story goes to you.

What would you like to talk about? Oh man, so

many choices. Well, we talked about the Inside

Out coming out next week, so it seems fitting

to maybe finish it with the good dinosaur voice

cast being revealed. Yeah, so that's the other

animated film. That'll be the test there. That'll

just be the... the test on if all you need to

do to be successful is put dinosaurs in your

film or if there's a difference between the Jurassic

World fans and the animated version of dinosaur

fans. And if that's the case, then expect the

next Land Before Time addition to be an actual

theatrical release and they'll stop with their

direct DVDs. Were they on 43 now? I lost track

at like 17, I think. And I stopped watching them

after two, so. But yeah, the cast for The Good

Dinosaur, some interesting people there. I'll

just read down the names of people so far. We

got Raymond Ochoa, who I don't know much about,

but he's from NBC's The Night Shift and TNT's

Rizzoli and Iles. I like that show. Jeffrey Wright.

from the Hunger Games and Boardwalk Empire. We

got Steve Zahn, which I don't need to explain

anything about him. AJ Buckley from TNT's Murder

in the First and FX's Justified. Anna Paquin,

here's my favorite one so far, Sam Elliott. The

voice of a tough T -Rex named Butch. Now, come

on, that doesn't fit him any better than... Francis

McDormand, you have Marcus... I don't know if

you say it Scribner or Scribner, from ABC's Blackish,

and Jack Bright from Monsters University. So

those are the names being thrown out there. So

it's an interesting route that they're going

with this one because it's not necessarily your

A -list Hollywood stars where it doesn't seem

like they're just trying to put Chris Rock or

Bruce Willis or somebody that just has that instant

name recognition, but they also didn't go necessarily

with the straight voice actor route. So it's

kind of like an interesting mixture there. But

what do you think of the voice cast there? Dan?

It seems pretty strong. Definitely a lot of good

actors that... I feel, you know, have voice talent

or have done work. I mean, Sam Elliott for sure.

I mean, looking forward to seeing what he has

to offer. And I do believe, like, I think they

had a cast and they recap, like they changed

it or something. I forget. Yeah, because originally

Bill Hader and Neil Patrick Harris, Judy Greer

and John Lithgow were all named on the cast and

they're nowhere on this press release. So apparently

they decided to recast it at some point. Interesting

cuz I know that like the good dinosaur itself

has been having production or had a lot of production

Changes and whatnot. So I don't know if that's

because of that, but I think it looks good I

you think Pixar is usually even when their movies

haven't been fast at fantastic once their voice

casting has always been pretty strong What about

you Amanda? What do you think about that voice

cast or just the prospect of the animated dinosaur

film now? Um, I think it's cute Has it been done

before? Yeah, I don't know too much about the

story or what's going on with the specific movie

itself, but I like the sound of the voice cast

and I'd definitely be interested in seeing it.

Alright, so that's it for the news this week.

There were some articles we didn't get to, so

if you're interested in hearing more about the

articles we didn't get to involving, I can't

believe we didn't talk about it, but a Star Wars

casting. We talked about a new Halloween film.

There is an article about what's coming up next

for Matthew Vaughn involving possible kick -ass

or hit -girl films. Problem for a reboot for

The Crow. Information on the sequel to Equalizer,

because that needed to happen. A new young adult

novel being adapted into a movie, a comic book

being adapted to a movie that you might be interested

in, and Dan, I can't believe I didn't bring it

up, but the information about a sequel to Maleficent.

There you go. So you can read all about all of

those things on the website. There will be links

there. But now it's time for us to move on to

our next section, which is trailer talk. There

was a slew of trailers that came out. Too many

for me to list off. There's probably about 20

trailers that have come off. Obviously, we had

a special episode last week when we were talking

about the top 10 animated films. So this is covering

the last two weeks, basically, of trailers. So

I'm not going to read them all, but they're all

going to be on the website. Dan, was there one

or two out there that you would either caught

your eye in either a positive or negative way

that you wanted? to bring up? Well the one that

kind of caught my eye was one I ended up seeing

when I went to see Mad Max, which I've seen since

the last time we met, and that was the trailer

for The Walk with Jordan Gordon -Levitt. No,

there wasn't much there. He didn't talk much,

but I didn't realize that movie was gonna be

in 3D, and getting just a glimpse of it within

3D, I think that could be interesting. I'd be

curious in seeing it. I worry about... Jordan

Gordon -Levitt in that part because I don't know

if he could pull off that accent that's needed

for the character but I'm intrigued by just seeing

what it's gonna be like and if they can kind

of make it into a film because I love the documentary

I just don't know if it's gonna translate well

to live action. You know this is one of those

ones that I did have some questions on for that

exact same reason that you just brought up and

I thought that some of those questions actually

were put to rest a little bit. Possibly by that

trailer because at first I was like, how are

they gonna do this? This seems like something

that's much more like you said Made for something

like a documentary and and how are they gonna

turn in this turn this into like a movie type

thing? Where it's gonna be able to keep an audience's

interest in more of that fashion, but the trailer

it seems like it's it's adding a lot to You know

everything that's going into this the the problems

that he's coming across and kind of just the

whole The whole journey as far as him trying

to accomplish what he has set out to so I'm gonna

I'm more on board now that I've seen the trailer

I was on board already, but I was a little skeptical

and I'm a little less skeptical skeptical after

the trailer I would be interested though with

your 3d comment to see are they gonna be able

to pull it off where you actually feel in the

theater like you're on that rope with him or

where you're you know having a sense of butterflies

in your stomach from the height and stuff like

that. The little glimpse that I did get I think

it was I mean you know it wasn't completely there

but it definitely evoked a little bit of Virgo

essentially for me because I hate heights so

it was unexpected too because I'm like wait what's

happening? I think it's definitely something

that's got a lot of interesting things going

and we'll have to see if they can somehow put

it all together. Amanda what about you? I'm gonna

see but with you as far as the walk goes I was

a little skeptical at first and Then I saw the

second trailer for Jurassic World. I think it

was in Jurassic World Yeah, you get to hear him

talk a little bit more. I think I'm just distracted

by his Funky hair and his accent is I don't know

how it would be for an entire movie I was still

trying to feel it out, but gotcha any other trailers

that you wanted to bring out? I think that I'm

super duper excited for Mission Impossible Rogue

Nation. Super duper? Super duper. That's another

level of excitement. Yeah, excited. So I'm gearing

up for that. And I think Southpaw, I think that's

given me the feels already as well. All right.

I got to bring up two for myself, and then I'll

give Dan another chance if he has another one.

the two that really actually caught my eye the

most was be one I didn't even know existed and

and one It was one that I wanted to put on my

most anticipated films of the year list when

we did that Dan but I just knew so little about

it that I just wasn't sure if I could put it

on there and I don't know if I'm gonna say it

right, but it's rock the the Casbah. I don't

know. I don't know if that's how you say that

last word Okay, Rock the Casbah No, I've never

I'm a sheltered person. I probably have and I

just don't know that that's the title of the

song but that's starring Bill Murray and I'm

a sucker for all Bill Murray fans but or films

But this literally seems like the type of film

where they just literally they just let Bill

Murray be Bill Murray It just seems like they're

just like, here's the basic premise, go do what

you want to do. And if that's the case, I am

all in 100%. So I was intrigued by that trailer

and it definitely has me interested to see a

little bit more. And the one that I didn't know

existed was apparently one that was actually

released in a festival last year, but has not

been seen by anybody else basically outside of

that until this year. And that was the Boulevard.

starring Robin Williams. This is basically, I

believe, will be the last film that I actually

released with him in it. There was probably about

four films that he was working on right before

he died and I think all the other ones have basically

been released or have been straight to video

or whatever, but The Boulevard I didn't know

anything about and this one looks actually pretty

interesting and pretty intriguing. Now, of course,

With all trailers you get the standard quotes

being thrown out there like, this is the greatest

film ever, or this is a film that comes around

once in a hundred years, or whatever they like

to put out there. But they were saying that this

is supposed to be one of, according to the trailer,

this is one of his best films, or one of his

best performances. I'll have to see it first,

but I don't know if it qualifies for anything

since it was released in... festivals in 2014,

but this is the type of film that if they were

actually right on that would seem like it'd be

one of those that they try to pile awards on

and stuff like that, but I don't think it qualifies

for that type of thing. I think it would if it

was only released in the festival of 2014. Okay.

So maybe it would, but I don't know if either

of you guys got a chance to see that one. I mean,

it doesn't give a lot away, but it seemed like

it was a pretty dramatic film and a pretty dramatic

performance by Robin Williams. Maybe I'm just

a sucker to want to see him one more time, so

that one caught my eye. I did not see it now.

I missed that one. Okay. Anything else, Dan?

We got time for one more trailer if you want

to bring one up. Ah, geez, there's actually so

many to choose from. Not The Martian because

I don't want to get any hype for Ridley Scott

movie ever again until I see it The only one

that actually kind of surprised me that I thought

was Like like it might be okay. It was vacation

Okay, I'm a fan. I like them in the Daily Show

in the office and it does seem like that that

the vacation that's coming out is you know, I

had some funny moments of like funnier than I

expected, so maybe that would be somewhat of

a good example of how to do a remake, but I think

Enhelm still fits that role well, and I like

how it certainly is self -deprecating in referencing

the first vacation, but we'll see. We'll see

how it goes. Yeah, I'm on board with that one

as well. I think that one seems like they're

doing they're going about things the right way

Maybe they will prove us wrong, but up to this

point it seems like like you said they're doing

everything right to both You know pay homage

to the original and kind of be in that same vein,

but updating it with the right people and From

what I saw it seems like something that I would

be on board for us So I'm excited about that

one more so after the trailer than I was beforehand

as well Alright, so that does it for trailer

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on the website, so if you want to watch some

of those and comment on those, there's a bunch

of other ones there that we would definitely

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through that break, and as we said, we are bringing

you the main attraction this week, which is a

new theater release, and that would be the record

holder now, Jurassic. world so before we get

to that uh... and your actual thoughts about

the films for all three of you guys let's at

least let people know where you stand uh... heading

up to that in the franchise overall so uh...

dan what was your uh... what was your take i

i mean i personally already know but for the

listeners uh... how did you feel about the original

three drastic part well the the original traffic

park is holds a special place in my heart, for

sure. It's one of the movies that made me fall

in love with movies, as they say. So it's still

one of my all -time favorite films. So it's one

that I go back to at least once each year, and

I quite enjoy it. And the other films, I don't

hate Lost World. I feel like a lot of people

hate it, and I think it has a lot of good parts

to it. And there are some really... Questionable

things at times like why you would use gymnastics

to fight Raptors I'm still not sure but then

there's like a scene or two that I think are

brilliant So it's kind of a yin -yang there and

the third one is kind of like a okay B movie

it has has some moments that I I think I've enjoyed

it more and rewatching but still kind of a Not

nearly up to the level of the first one, but

I think really it's unquestionably. You know,

there's trash at park and everything else is

quite a step down from that. Yeah, I think I

would pretty much agree with you. We actually

rewatched the three in preparation for Jurassic

World. I wasn't able to catch a rewatch of the

third one, Amanda did, but I did catch rewatches

of the first two. And yeah, obviously like everybody

on the planet, I think the first one is the best

out of those. It's just something about those

initial scenes where you're seeing... the park

for the first time, you're seeing the dinosaurs

for the first time, and the John Williams score

comes on, and it's just, especially if you see

it at the right age, it was just something that

was completely awe -inspiring, and still to this

day, the animatronics and the effects that they

used in this film for the dinosaurs are absolutely

insane. Like, you wouldn't have thought that

that was possible in 1994, is that? want to get

in the year right? Yep, 1994, the same year that

Schindler's List came out. Spielberg made that

and Schindler's List in the same year, so there

you go. Yeah, that's crazy, like we're talking

about where directors sometimes take years off

doing both of those somehow simultaneously. But

yeah, in 1994, even though it was, you know...

so uh... were much advanced uh... maybe some

stuff you know earlier on like we got in the

eighties or even in the seventies or star wars

or whatever but just to be able to make those

dinosaurs look as realistic as they did even

when you think about the the scene with the uh...

the triceratops up close and everything like

that uh... was just absolutely ridiculous to

me and that they were able to do and even rewatching

it now a couple decades later, it still looks

believable and it's still, you know, it's not

like some of those that you thought the effects

were really good at the time and then you watch

it like 10 years later and you're discovering,

well... It was good at the time, but now that

I've seen what they can do now, it doesn't look

as good. That's not the case with Jurassic Park.

It still looks, to me, just as good. I really

like the first one. I'm not going to get into

too many details. There will be a couple comparisons

that we might get to when we get into Jurassic

World. But Amanda, what did you think of the

first three? What was your breakdown of those

films? Please stop looking at my notes. Stop

it. I'm right there with everybody else on the

entire planet. I think the first one is definitely

my favorite. That scare wow factor definitely

can't be beat. Just touched on I think the effects

really do hold up over the time period that has

spanned out and I don't think that In that sense

it can be beat by many movies of that time period

and even till now in Jurassic World I think was

comparable, but it's not Those raptors were not

as scary as the raptors in the first Jurassic

Park. I don't care what anybody says Maybe because

I was a little yeah, I know it's freaky, but

I just think they looked really really awesome

For the lost world I think it was shaky at best.

I think it had a really cool premise though.

I think the whole idea of having this other island

that they kind of nurtured the dinosaurs there

first and then brought them to the park. I think

that was a really cool idea. Just wasn't executed

very well with the T -Rex and San Francisco at

the end, but as far as Jurassic Park 3, my notes

to say William H. Macy. bro like come on dude

you wrecked it for me and that and i'm not normally

hating on William H Macy um but in this i just

i just couldn't get get uh over his part it was

just it was too silly for me okay so we all like

the original Jurassic Park film and maybe parts

of at least the other ones maybe not as well

as the original one but parts here and there

of the other ones um But that doesn't necessarily

speak to what your excitement level or anticipation

level was going into Jurassic World. So since

you're just talking, Amanda, we'll start with

you. But getting into going to watch this one,

what were you thinking? Where were you thinking

it was going to hold up? How excited were you?

What was your anticipation level? I think this

is one of my most anticipated films of this year.

And it definitely didn't disappoint me. But as

far as my love for the first three, or I should

maybe just say the first one or two. I was definitely

wicked stoked for this to come out and see what

they would do with it. Dan, what about you? What

was your anticipation level? I know probably

pretty high based on the first one, or were you

just kind of hoping that it wasn't bad, not necessarily

bad, but the second or third one? It varied,

honestly, depending on how close we were. Uh,

you know for the they were talking about doing

Jurassic Park, you know for what do you ever

have you for years? And it was like one of those

things that was never going to happen And then

you know it it ends up coming out. I'm like,

I don't know about it Then the trailer started

coming out and i'm liking it more and more so

The more the closer we got to it. Honestly the

higher my anticipation grew So I I think my over

when I walked in that Into or actually drove

in because it's not the drive -in drive -in when

I drove in to the theater I was actually highly

anticipating it just because of you know I was

just ready to get back to the world the world

that I saw you know 20 years ago Yeah for sure

and I was kind of I was kind of like you said

I'm mixed I came back kind of in and out depending

on what was going on like The idea that there

was gonna be another Jurassic Park film was I

thought cool for me like that wasn't one that

I necessarily minded that there was gonna be

a remake especially you know all these years

later with the effects that were possible and

maybe to see how they could maybe ramp it up

or even impress us more or at least to the same

level that the first one did. You know, I wasn't

necessarily jumping head over heels about it,

but it was definitely one of my more anticipated

films for this year just to see how it was going

to happen and what way they would go with it

and kind of see how successful they would be.

So I was pretty excited for it, too. Before we

kind of delve into it, what were your initial

reactions as you left the theater, as the movie

was wrapping up? First reaction out of the theater.

Dan, what did you think? Honestly, my initial

reaction was I enjoyed it, but I was disappointed.

And I was trying not to do what is really...

hard not to do and to compare it to Jurassic

Park and want to get the same type of reaction

I got from that one, from this one, but I think

overall, I think there are aspects I liked, and

what I was worried about was, kind of which we

can probably get into, was the direction, but

what I think really let it down was the script

as a whole, and even though I thought, you know,

I enjoyed my experience, I think it was worth

watching, I was hoping for just a little bit

more and to live up to the the hype of the first

one, but I would say in the series, I do place

it above the second and third film. Yeah, I would

place it there too. My initial reaction, I think

I even said it to Amanda afterwards, was that

I liked it and it was a fun summer movie, but

that it had lots of, I had lots of questions

and lots of issues or problems with certain things.

So I'm kind of probably in the same boat as you

are where I was at. at least partially disappointed,

and I found myself not comparing it to the first

Jurassic Park film, but instead I was comparing

it to things like San Andreas, Godzilla, Transformers,

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and saying if I'm

just looking at summer blockbusters or big -budget

popcorn flicks, where does it rank amongst those,

and is it better than those or not? That's actually

kind of interesting as I was watching it. Godzilla

was the first movie that kind of came to mind

where it had similar issues, but I feel Overall

like it was I thought it was better than Godzilla

But I thought like a lot of the same problems

kind of are related regarding characters and

the way it kind of It's human aspect. I would

say so I think that's kind of the Interesting

enough to that was a movie that was reminded

of most often watching it not trash to quark,

but Godzilla Right. All right, Amanda, what do

you think was your initial reaction? Good, bad,

or ugly? I enjoyed myself. I think I was thoroughly

entertained throughout. And I tried my best not

to compare it to the first one and not be too

hard on it and just try to enjoy myself and taking

the experience. This is definitely one that you

completely have to shut off, though. You have

to shut off your movie reviewer, critic, logical

hat. You have to take that off and turn it off

and try to just purely... go along for the ride,

I think, because as soon as you start thinking

about stuff, it just makes me mad. But before

we get into any of the issues or problems that

we had, let's start on more of a positive note.

What were the things that you liked best or the

things that you thought were the best things

as far as how they did things? Anybody that has

one can go, but what were the brighter spots

for you guys in Jurassic World? I thought, like

I mentioned, the direction. I was surprised that

it was better than I expected. 69 guaranteed

which was Tavaro's movie before this but it's

nothing compared to this and he is obviously

didn't know Spielberg but I thought overall his

action sequences were staged well for the most

part I will preface this by saying I did see

this in the drive -in so I it's I I can't really

judge the things like special effects all that

well because it's not the best location to see

it because it's kind of darker and it's hard

to see certain things but I really love things

like the the pterodactyl sequence I thought was

a standout, and I think it did enough to forge

its own legacy. We can get into some of the nods

to the old one, but I thought that was probably

maybe where it hindered itself too much, where

it was maybe too, and it got a little bit too

much when it came to remembering the first film,

but I thought overall there were enough of those

action set pieces that made me entertained and

made me enjoy. watching it and how it used the

world of Jurassic World and how it built it up

to a legitimate theme park and all the little

tiny bits and pieces to it from the petting zoo

for the dinosaurs and all the different pieces

and how it relates to the parks of today. So

that's what I did, just the idea and the concept

of where they took the franchise. You know, I

like that too. I like the idea of the theme park

and the idea of what kind of different attractions

they would come up with. Like I said, whether

it be the petting zoo or like the Sea World aspect

or the gyrospheres or all the different like

attractions they came up with and it also seems

like even though it's this fantastical world

of dinosaurs that they they did stuff that seems

like it would be how they would do stuff in real

life especially with all the different like it

seemed like they had like little educational

things throughout like watching the videos of

how this happened you know the type of stuff

that you're going in and when you're in a museum

or an amusement park you're not as a kid you're

not interested in at all but but it's still thrown

in there you know whether it be it almost reminds

you of like when you're you're in Place and they're

showing you like the size of a footprint of a

bear or a lion or something like that But in

this case, it would be dinosaurs and things like

that So I do think the the attractions and the

theme park aspects were were a plus were an interesting

thing To look at so I would definitely agree

with you on that one Amanda What were some of

your highlights or some of the things you like

best about Jurassic World? I Think what I liked

best about it was Chris Pratt Justin. I think

he stole the show in all of his scenes. I think

he was the character that I related to the most

and vested in emotionally the most. And of course

he is just an all -around badass. He can ride

a motorcycle with a pack of Raptors. So that's

my... That's your highlight? That's my highlight.

I would echo a lot of that. I think Chris Pratt

was pretty good in this. And I know I've heard

a lot of people say that they thought he was

underutilized or could have done more, could

have used him even better. I don't know, I thought

I was happy with what they did with him and happy

with what he was doing. I think it was kind of

hard because in a lot of sense, and we'll kind

of get to this later when I get into the negatives,

but for a lot of sense he was trying to replace

two different characters from... or represent

two different characters that existed in the

first film in a way. So I thought that was kind

of hard, big shoes to fill, but I was pleased

with Chris Pratt and since you're bringing up

performances, this is where I'm going to get

maybe the most hate from listeners because apparently

I disagree with a lot of other people that are

talking about Jurassic World out there. And that

is when it comes to the child actors. And I've

heard way too many times this week people praising

the child actors in the original Jurassic Park.

And... I love Jurassic Park, the original film,

from 1994. But the child actors, especially the

girl, the girl was absolutely awful in Jurassic

Park, in my opinion. And maybe I am alone in

that opinion, but I thought she was absolutely

the worst part of Jurassic Park. The boy was

not as bad. I thought the boy was more believable

and didn't have some kind of cringe -worthy moments,

but... The girl from the first film I thought

was cringeworthy almost all the time. She overacted

the crap out of things. The looks on her face

and the way that she did things were ways that

most people don't act and don't show on their

faces. Now, that's not just me hating the fact

that she was retarded with the flashlight and

wouldn't shut it off. I'm not just mad at that.

But I just thought I did not care for her as

an actress in the first film. I very much strongly

preferred the child actors in Jurassic World.

I don't know about you guys, but I would take

the two kids in Jurassic World over the two kids

in Jurassic Park. No, I would have to go the

opposite, honestly. I thought the younger kid

in Jurassic World was pretty good, but I thought

the teenage guy was just... I don't know if bad

acting is what I would go with. I think he had

some bad writing. Yeah, and I just thought his

character as a whole was really uninteresting

and just... rather just like a mean and i get

that was what they're going for but i just i

didn't really have any they care for him at all

and and so that i'm just talking strictly from

an acting standpoint not not for the writing

of the actual character i i thought i found that

the kids and uh... i don't know in joshua park

a little bit more interesting thing it ties in

line with more of what that movie's doing i've

never had an issue with their acting is it is

it big yeah i guess i don't know that they'd

always be felt like Kid acting like kids, you

know, especially the young boy. He was just fascinated

with dinosaurs and it was kind of annoying but

I mean certainly they were like him Subtle but

I they weren't in a subtle situation. So I guess

that's the way I took it I guess I don't know

how I would act if I saw dinosaurs and I felt

no it wasn't it was just more so like the way

like I just thought the girl over acted on a

lot of stuff not not that she was acting too

big for the situation but that she was just The

facial expressions and the way she moved just

didn't seem natural to me even in that situation

I don't know maybe I watched it first as an adult,

but I guess as watching it as a kid it just seems

like the right thing to do but I thought the

kids in this, the younger kid I thought was interesting,

but I thought those kids together did not have

much chemistry or did not really feel like brothers

to me. They just were kind of dull. Like I said,

I think that's more of an issue of the writing

than it has to do with what they were given than

their actual acting ability. What do you think,

Amanda? I can't really give a crap less about

these kids in dress world. I mean all of a sudden

they're like, oh we're 15 and we have worked

on one car with our grandpa in our entire life

and now we can get this 20 year old Jeep running.

That was a little bit bad. That was pretty bad.

Things like that. I really did not buy into their

story at all. I like the kids in the first dressing

park. I don't think that... They were the highlight

of the movie for me, but probably because I was

the same age and you know I really didn't care

I just wanted to to see somebody get bit in half

by t -rex, but Watching it as an adult I think

that some of the scariest scenes were when the

kids were in danger in the car with the T -Rex

and I think that was a really great scene as

well as the kitchen scene. So some of, you know,

my favorite scenes involved the kids so I give

them props for that. Okay. Fair enough. I will

be in the lonely island about not liking her.

I like the boy. I like both of the little boys

in both films better than the older siblings.

But did we miss anything good or did we only

each have one thing? Well, the other good thing

I thought, which was almost a negative for me,

but after I thought about it, I think it actually

kind of makes sense. And it's, you know, the

first drastic part very much is in like, you

know, you have the childlike wonderment and how

that gets transformed to like, you know, just.

Complete destruction and terror and in this at

first it's like well, I feel like it's trying

to go for that wonderment But it feels very artificial

but then I think almost I think that's a purposeful

choice because you look at there's a specific

scene that comes to mind where There they get

their hotel and they open need a classic John

Williams, you know score from the original film

starts to Crescendo and it opens up and then

you know what we were you got like the dinosaurs

last time we get this amusement park it just

feels It's like seeing dinosaurs compared to

seeing Disneyland, but I feel it makes sense

because you do see the effect of what would happen

if this was actually made into a theme park.

You wouldn't have that same effect. It would

be a little bit more touristy and artificial,

and it wouldn't have the same type of reaction

you would get when you see them in their natural

habitat, which I thought was interesting. You

mentioned Chris Patton. I did enjoy him. I don't

want to get into spoilers, but I do think it

gets... I don't know, stronger is the right word,

but I feel like it gets more interesting as the

movie goes on, or at least more entertaining.

I can see that. I think as far as how jaded the

feeling gets... from going from that wonderment

to going to the hard truth about what really

would go on if this was commercialized like this.

And I think that it's really represented in BD

Wong's character in his arc as well. I think

that is really showcased there. I think I agree

with that. Now, some people listening to different

podcasts that have been talking about this or

different things on the internet, it seems like

there's been some polarizing reactions to BD

Wong's character. And some people either liked

it and some people absolutely hated it. So you're

saying that it worked for you and that you kind

of liked the way that it kind of showed a shift

in him over the course of these. Now if you remember,

and I think the people that are having the biggest

problem with his character in this film are forgetting

the time span that's going on in between here

and how long he's been working on a project that

had this passion to do this and that he tried

and it didn't work and he's been along for this

long time. So I can kind of see where eventually

you can have that arc where he's kind of been

Jaded to a point where where he's got the motivation

to do what he's doing in this film But I don't

know how did you guys react to his character

overall Dan? He did seem a little bit more like

you know be movie villain Than I expected, but

I guess like you I was like well. I mean you

know you have to be a little bit You have to

have a little questionable morals if you were

going to get in this business to begin with Considering

when he was doing it was really under the radar

and like questionable and you know the original

drastic park scientists did some you know Engineering

as well. So like it's not like it's the first

time he kind of did that So I could see it to

me didn't seem it was that far off and you think

of you can't like five minutes with the character

I think I think if that guy was not an actor

still and like not in Law and Order or whatever

show he's on. I don't think it would be a big

deal To me, it's it's not like you get his full

insight use we see him for five minutes in the

original film So I don't think it's right. I

don't know. I didn't have an issue with it I

didn't really either. Amanda, you didn't have

an issue obviously either since you said you

appreciated his art, correct? Yeah, I think I

really enjoyed it. Maybe it's because I've just

seen the originals pretty recently to have that

fresh in my mind to just see the bright look

on his face and the enjoyment that he got out

of his work to it being something that... now

has changed into I've got to make money off this.

I need up the wow factor. I need to deliver results

that aren't the same kind of results that I started

out trying to accomplish or reach. I think that

seeing that even just briefly, you know, and

first to what it is in this Jurassic world that

he finds himself in now, I think that it really

shows what that industry has done to him as a

person. Yeah, I would agree to that and that's

why I didn't have as a big of an issue either

So any other highlights that we didn't get a

chance to talk about yet? No, nothing really

comes to mind Okay. Well, let's flip it to the

negative side then and What were the things that

took away and I let's just start with the big

one and this is not a spoiler because It's revealed

pretty quickly I think in the movie so I don't

feel bad about and plus two hundred million dollars

worth of people have seen this already and So

I feel like this isn't as big of a spoiler, but

let's get into the military angle of this whole

plot and the idea that Vincent D 'Onofrio's character

and the military is interested in taking trained

raptors and possibly other dinosaurs in the future

and instead putting them into actual military

atmospheres to fight wars instead of people.

I'd buy it. No, I'm joking. Yeah, it's interesting

because I mentioned that this movie's been in

development forever And I don't know if you ever

saw some of like the concept art that they've

made over the years They were like at one time

these dino soldiers that were genetically modified

like it they were odd looking and I feel like

this this movie does seem like it's a script

that's been around and passed around and adjusted

here and there and that has these parts that

doesn't necessarily all tie together all that

well or feel all that well -developed and I think

the best example is this military portion of

it just because they're just like hanging out

there and then they're like okay we're gonna

this is gonna happen now just like okay but uh

it I don't I don't know it seems questionable

though I mean we do use dolphins and other sea

animals as military tools so maybe it's not hey

don't underestimate a dolphin I mean Flipper

can attack Jaws all he wants but I don't think

he's gonna come and bite my toes off if I don't

give him enough fish. Orcas are pretty badass

they might they might take out There you go.

I think maybe somebody watched one too many 80s

cartoons and was seeing dino writers and dino

saucers and stuff like that. But the biggest

thing for me, and Mayda has no idea what I'm

talking about, nor does anybody younger than

the age of 28. So I apologize for dating myself

with those. But I think the biggest issue there

is we're talking about the U .S. military. And

they're one of the most structured, organized,

like... regimented, regulated type of organization

that you can come across, and even if it was

something believable, even if you were trying

to go with something, I don't know, there would

be no way that they would ever trust something

as wild as a dinosaur to do anything. for them

but it just seems like the logistics of even

getting it to where you need to get it to would

be like you know you have to feed the dinosaur

you have to i guess parachute it in to where

i don't even i mean they'll like you know we

had uh we had cars on parachutes i think the

only way you top it with dinosaurs on parachutes

yeah that would be the next drastic park dino

drop You just need Chris Pratt on a four -wheeler,

and you're good to go. You can get him anywhere.

He was on a motorcycle. He was not on a four

-wheeler. We're going somewhere in a little bit

more different terrain. It was also unbelievable

that he was trucking around on his Harley compatible

or whatever. I don't know. I just think the military

angle of this story is quite possibly one of

the dumbest. Plot angles I've seen in a movie

in a long time. Yeah, this is right up there

with turtles from last year Yeah, I mean it doesn't

make sense, but I My bigger issue. I mean that

doesn't it does it does seem kind of odd that

there'd be like the military at a theme park,

but whatever And I think it kind of ties in line

like I said with the script as a whole because

I feel like a lot of the characters were We're

lacking. I mean, that's one of the things I love

about Jurassic Park. It was the characters or

you know, you know, you Goldblum's character

they're they're all kind of colorful and they

all work well together and interesting in their

own right but with this like we mentioned Godzilla

similar thing where you know like Bryce Ellis

Howard I was not all that into her character

and her performance and the kids were okay but

not all that you know not nearly as interesting

as the other film sorry Well, I agree with you

a hundred percent on that like that was to me

also one of the biggest draws of the personal

besides seeing the effects and the dinosaurs

and how realistic they look but like you said

you had Malcolm you had grant you had even like

people like What was it? The main hunter guy

that gets killed by three Raptors. I can't remember

his name Muldoon You had Muldoon even the people

you didn't like like Janaro the lawyer and Nedry

I mean the facts that I know these names outside

I mean obviously I've seen the film a bunch of

times But all those characters stuck with you

we Hammond it, you know, etc Hold on to your

butt Yeah, you even have Samuel L. Jackson as

a minor character. Come on, but this one yeah

is like Chris Pratt and Jake Johnson's character

and outside of that Maybe the one guy was notable

for a minute. Yeah, but I think Bryce Dallas

Howard's performance was super lackluster And

definitely not believable at all. Yeah I've heard

it from a couple different people but it makes

sense like so You're gonna take a job like in

charge of a theme park dealing with these live

dinosaurs, yet you absolutely have no feelings

or care about dinosaurs? Like, that just seems

weird. And bitch, I don't care who you are or

what kind of shape you're in. If you're running

from a T -Rex with a flare in your hand, you

are kicking off your heels and you are dipping

like an Indian through the woods barefoot. Just

saying. I don't know what just happened. But

yeah, you would definitely be not wearing the

heels anymore. Especially not those old lady

ass pumps. Come on now, get some red bottoms.

You are like some kind of big head of a conglomerate

or whatever you want to call it. You can afford

some Louis Vuitton's girl. Get out of those nasty

grandma pumps and get you some help. I can't,

I don't speak that language. I don't know what

language you just spoke. But getting back to

the characters, one last thing I wanted to say

about them. It wasn't just that we were missing

the memorable characters, but because of that,

it seemed like what I was saying before, like

Chris Pratt had to try to be like three different

characters in one. Because he's literally taking

Grant's role from the first one, as well as Jeff

Goldblum's role, as well as Muldoon the Hunter's

role, almost. And it's like, how can he be all

three of those people? And because he was trying

to be all three of them, I feel like we really

lose the sense of what was represented by Jeff

Goldblum in the first one, and I think the lack

of that hurt this film a little bit. And I think,

too, the issue that came up, and it's hard not

to compare the movie, because it almost wants

to be compared to it, because there's so much,

you know, the homaging and referencing to the

original, there's everything from, like, you

know, a small cameo from Mr. DNA, to, like, legitimate

shots taken from it, to, like, you know, other

aspects where it's obviously someone wearing

the shirt from Jurassic Park, you know, so it...

it almost kind of get out of its own way in that

way where I think it was a mistake to push it

that hard because all it made me think of was

like I'd rather watch Jurassic Park which is

you know it's that that was you know it's I think

it's okay to do it in one angle but just continually

to push it over and over again I thought was

a little bit much but I did think there were

some interesting references to other movies too

including like Alien and Aliens that I thought

were a little bit more effective but And Jaws.

And of course Jaws, yeah, definitely. Amanda,

what were some of the things that you liked the

most out of this? Or I'm sorry, you disliked

the most out of this? I think the dinosaurs looked

pretty cool, I guess. But I think one of Chris

Pratt's... best lines was you know dinosaurs

wow enough in regard to the gene slicing and

i think they definitely way over did it with

the gene slicing of the endominus rex they could

have done um you know really without as much

of the weird genetic quirks that it had and I

think it still would have been, I think it would

have been more believable, still as entertaining.

And I also wanted to see a little bit more of

the attractions. I think that was one of the

best parts is being able to see the different

parts of the park and I think what I did see

I really enjoyed but maybe a little bit more

would have been nice. And I think that was one

of the biggest failures too because they had

a perfect opportunity when those two kids are

off the beaten path. And they're basically out

in the actual, you know, past that one attraction.

Like, there was, they were basically searching

for a way back to the populated part of the park,

you know, back to the hotels and the restaurants

and where all the people are. It seemed like

it would have lent itself to exploring and kind

of going through and hitting like two or three

or four different areas of the actual theme park.

And it just seemed like they didn't do that.

They went through like one and that was about

all you got to see. So I was looking for more

of the other areas besides the quick sequence

of showing all the brontosauruses and the trip

back to the original compound or whatever. They

didn't go through a whole bunch of different

areas. I mean, I guess we got to see the bird,

the aviary or whatever you want to call it from

a distance. But yeah, I didn't get to see either

enough attractions in the park or enough like

exhibits of different types of dinosaurs. Like

where were the, you know... where was the area

for this type of dinosaur or the area for that

type of dinosaur. I didn't feel like we got enough

of that to give us a grand scheme of how big

this place actually was because it literally

seemed like anytime they needed a character or

a dinosaur to be in a certain area, they were

there instantly. Like there was never travel

time or or the three places they were were literally

touching each other but when they ever they showed

that big map there was a big huge space between

things and it just didn't seem like those kids

were here and then they were immediately here

and then they were immediately there and then

Chris Pratt was immediately there and then the

t -rex was immediately there and I'm just like

is there is everything just like I don't know

it's too convenient for me. You need to like

start at like the Game of Thrones with the map

for all the different areas. I'm trying to get

a handle on that. They all die. I know that much

to expect. But along with that, I didn't get

the sense like you did in the first one that

anywhere off the beaten path was dangerous. Because

the only danger you have in this one was the

Indominus Rex and eventually when the birds got

let loose. But that was the cool part about the

first one is you knew. when Nedry was off the

beaten path, or when the guy was going out to

try to turn this on or that on. Anytime someone

was wandering out, it was like, what are they

gonna encounter, and what's gonna be the danger?

And in the first one, you have the Spitter, you

have the Raptors, you have the T -Rex, you had

a fourth type of dinosaur that killed one of

them. So I mean, you had all these different

dangers, and I didn't get that sense of danger

in this one. It seemed like these kids were out

completely past the gyrosphere limit. And the

only thing that they ran into was the Indominus

Rex. Yeah, I mean, and I think the thing too

is that It was just like the the theme to this

was the park is open but I didn't think it used

that all that much like you mean you have a pterodactyl

sequence or to think that I keep going back to

but besides that I don't think it I felt like

the Having to deal with all the people in the

park really mattered all that much it they just

kind of put in one area for the most part you

had that one sequence but i thought like you

could have done more with that idea the fact

that this park is open you may be a little bit

more chaotic and i think it goes to your point

where you only have one threat here so it limits

kind of where you know where that's coming from

so you can you don't feel that uh... impending

doom like you do with the first one because it's

like one wrong turn and you're going to get killed

by some other creature or something like that

Alright, well let's go around and in the interest

of time give everybody a chance for some final

thoughts something they didn't get to talk about

if there is some stuff and and a final grade

out of 10 for Jurassic World so Amanda anything

you didn't get to and what would be your final

thoughts? I think that I know Dan said that maybe

too much of nostalgia heard it a little bit,

but I think that I really got a kick out of Seeing

the little nods that I did But I do think that

it did go a little far Right down to there was

two kids related to somebody Working at the facility

in a high position in danger and running for

the lives in the park without that said family

member So I think there were some parallels there

that were a bit much But I think I enjoyed it

overall and I'm gonna give it I'm gonna say an

8 out of 10 Okay, pretty high I will say for

my final thought that it's something, I guess

I could have a similar problem with all four

of the Dresser Park films so far, but I don't

understand why we continuously in this franchise

have to see people that are going after dinosaurs

with stun guns and rifles and pistols or whatever

they're going after these people with. We've

seen like this is not ignoring the fact that

Jurassic Park existed and that that was a failed

experiment So if you're reopening this thing,

don't you have like I don't know some missiles

or Grenade launchers or something ready like

or even like a stationary gun pointed at certain

things So if something happens, you just quickly

blow up that exhibit on motorcycles trying to

shoot guns at these humongous creatures and it's

like at what point do we learn that this is not

going to have an effect on this huge dinosaur

like I don't know I feel like with our assets

I feel like it once once something's broken free

I feel like there would be a failsafe and just

like that thing is dead because our military

is involved and if the military is involved they

have the weapon power to do that send a drone

missile and that thing is dead another thing

this is Costa Rica why is the American government

so heavily involved here, shouldn't the military

not be there? That's a good question. Maybe it's

the U .S., they might have purchased the island

so now it's the territory or something like that.

I'm gonna fall a little bit lower on the grade.

If you're thinking that you just are going in

to have some fun, like this movie's fun, this

movie's gonna be better than probably the second

and the third one, so it's entertaining. It's

got Chris Pratt and some dinosaurs and that's

cool, and like the kids say, that guy's a badass.

I don't know, that's one of the best quotes of

the line. Your boyfriend's a badass. The Navy,

not the Navajo. Oh, that was, yeah. I don't know

there's just way too many problems for me especially

when one of the main class here is so laughable

with the military angle so I am gonna go down

to five and a half let's say six out of ten I'll

give it a six out of ten just because it is somewhat

entertaining if you can turn off your brain yeah

so yeah yeah and as I mentioned I did see this

in driving so I feel like we watching it I would

maybe enjoy it a little bit more because the

last sequence was so dark a lot of those I didn't

feel like I could feel Completely grasp everything

that was going on and so like you said I kind

of Kevin I think we're kind of in agreement.

I I enjoyed it. I just had a lot of questions

and Disappointments regarding just the script

wise which was interesting because I I was more

concerned with the director knowing he was Going

into like a big project project like this for

the first time Yeah, I mean I could see in a

wee watch it getting better because I maybe that

those issues I have won't be a huge hindrance,

and I know what I'm expecting, but right now,

like I said, I think it's worth watching, and

it does fall in line kind of with Godzilla for

me last year, which I think I like more than

you, Kevin, and so I would agree with more, like

a six, 6 .5 for me as well. Okay, so that is

how we feel on Jurassic World. Real quick though,

before we close this show out, because we're

not going to be doing what you've been watching

this week, because... We are getting an extension

on both of our homework assignments for one more

week So we won't be talking about those and besides

that we didn't we didn't see a whole bunch of

films So in lieu of that just real quickly, I

want to see if you guys can be put to the test

It's only gonna take about two minutes But I

want to see since you guys mentioned them about

four or five times all the different nods to

Jurassic Park Who can name the most? I want to

just give it to you one after the other and we

can see who runs out first So, and that'll be

how we close out the show in lieu of anything

else. So, um, anything that's a nod to the original

Jurassic Park. Amanda, you got one first. What's

your first one? I think one of the most obvious

was the night vision goggles. Okay, Dan, something

from the first one that you saw? Uh, the Jurassic

Park t -shirt. Jurassic Park t -shirt, Amanda?

Um, the Spare No Expense was also brought up

in this one again. True, it was. Dan? Oh, the

John Hammond statue? Yeah, that was pretty blatant.

Uh, Amanda? um the original banner from the first

one the kids found that okay dan uh they also

had in the the use of the original theme song

obviously the original score by john williams

original john williams score i mean i think the

original jeeps they did have the exact same jeep

that uh john hammond and janaro were in and the

original one number 29 showed up for the kids

that's when they put back together nice uh dan

uh the also um The flamethrower, similar to the

T -Rex escape from the first one. Okay, Amanda?

The flare, using the flare with the T -Rex. Okay,

Sam? The clever girl, they used that line, I

believe. Yeah, with the raptors. Amanda? When

those kids are at the educational area, they're

digging up what looks like the same raptor from

the first movie that they were digging. Oh, okay,

that grant was digging. Okay, I didn't see that

one. Dan? The Mr. DNA cameo. Mr. DNA cameo, voiced

by none other than Colin Trevorrow in this one

because Greg Berson, who did it in the first

one, is no longer living. Amanda? Like the OG

wall murals and details kids found. Dan? The

gates, similar to the first film. I think it's

the same T -Rex. It is the same T -Rex, including

scars that he suffered from the first film. So

that is good. Dan? The spitting dinosaur. I forget

the name of the actual dinosaur, but they use

the same kind of image from the first film. Oh,

yeah, yeah, that he walks through at one point.

Um, Amanda? They're running out. Like I mentioned

before, there's the two kids related to somebody

working at the park in danger, blah, blah, blah.

Dan? Uh, the Brontosaurus sequence is very similar

to that of the se - uh, with the Triceratops

of the first film. Yep. Definitely. For sure.

They're the closest up we get to them, Amanda.

I'm gonna say BD Wong. BD Wong appearing in both

of them? That's a pretty, uh, easy one there.

Dan? The use of the goat in the T -Rex. Uh...

Man, you guys are good. Amanda? I got nothing

else. Dandy, you got anything to one -up her?

Uh, when the Imperius Rex escapes, you have the

scene of him under the jeep with the teeth next

to him. Right. That's similar to the T -Rex escaping

in the first one. Alright, you also had a couple

other ones that we hadn't mentioned. Ian Malcolm's

book, God Creates Dinosaurs, is seen in the chaperone's

hands at one point, and then later on, one of

the tables or desks. They talked about Jake Johnson's

desk being messy in a similar way that they talked

about Nedry's work center being a little bit

messy in a different way. That's reaching. That's

reaching a little bit. He also drinks soda, so

you know. In the original Jurassic Park where

they're the Chilean sea bass scene where they're

all sitting at the table eating, there's a projector

in the background that's showing different potential

things that would come later and one of them

is a screen that says Jurassic Tennis. That is

actually one of the amusements at this theme

park that actually has come to fruition. They

don't really show what it consists of but there's

a sign that says Jurassic Tennis. Let's see.

Yeah. I don't even understand it. I don't know

what it would be either. Jack Horner, who was

a paleontologist brought on for all four of the

films to be kind of like the educational guy

that tells you what you're doing right and what

you're doing wrong. But he actually is a guy

with the long hair and the cowboy hat and second

one. He was the one that, he appeared in Jurassic

World at the raptor pen after they did the successful

training exercise. He high fives somebody. So

he's appearing in this one. Let's see, we had

the chaos theory that happened again in the original

one. It's with the water, with Jeff Goldblum.

In this one, it was dealing with blood falling

from one of the dinosaurs onto somebody's hand.

And the one drop went one way and the other drop

went the other way. Oh, good point. Apparently.

Yeah, I know, right? And let's see, the last

thing was not necessarily from the first one,

but the Spinosaurus skeleton from the dinosaur

that was the bad guy in the third Jurassic Park

film. The skeleton is busted through by the Indominus

Rex. It's kind of a symbolism of this one being

better than that one, I guess. I don't know.

And a Michael Crichton book on Jake Johnson's

desk as well. A little book by Michael Crichton.

Alright, so that is it for this week. Not much

to talk about besides what we already talked

about in our box office prediction that Inside

Out is coming out next week along with Manglehorn

and Polar Bear in the near release. If you are

there, a true crime novel being adapted to a

film starring Kate Beckinsale called The Face

of an Angel, a horror comedy starring Anton Yelchin

and Alexander D 'Addario burying the ex. Seems

interesting. Dope. And then as far as Blu -ray

releases, we have Survivor starring Pierce Brosnan

and Forger. Forger's starring John Travolta,

so I know people will be running out to get those

two for sure. If you don't want to get those

two last week when we didn't talk about it, Chappy,

Lazarus Effect, Run All Night, and Unfinished

Business are all out on DVD now as well. Let's

close it out. Anybody have a question for the

listeners about anything we talked about today?

Danny, you got anything? Well, you know, with

Jurassic World making a trillion dollars where

you know there's going to be a sequel, but my

question is, do people have an idea of where

they can go to for the next movie? Because I

have no idea, so I'd be curious if people have

any theories of what might be next for the franchise.

And will they try to make as many nods to the

threat to the lost world? We're gonna go to San

Diego. They're gonna There's some girls gonna

get eaten on a beach somewhere and that's how

it's gonna start Alright, so what directions

could they go for the next drastic part cuz Chris

Pratt signed up You know, they're doing more

as long as they keep making money. So alright

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I know you talked about it a little bit, but

I was wondering... If your phone was rain, I

was wondering if your phone was rain or was that

me Dan Sorry, I opened up the article in the

it all the videos I hate it when it does that

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