CINEMA GEEKS
Top 10 Animated Films of the Decade Countdown

About this Episode
You got the touch! This is Stan Bush, and you're
listening to the Geekcast Radio Network. Dream
the dream. We take a look at last week's box
office predictions. And then we bring you the
next in our half decade list as we count down
our top 10 animated films. All that and more
coming up on episode 58 with the Cinemagate.
That's right, it is episode 58 of The Cinema
Geeks and we're all excited because we're bringing
you one of our special episodes that we've been
doing throughout this year counting down our
half decade list. We've already brought you the
science fiction list early on in the year, then
we brought you our superhero film list and now
we have arrived with the animated films. And
like we did with the previous genre list, we
are trying to bring special guests along for
each list and we have one of those with us. today
so we'll start with that introducing our guest
for the animated film countdown and that is none
other than the one the only the podcasting machine
jd from in session films hello let's go lightning
oh that's not your team jd you know i'm missing
the game for this and you were just rubbing salt
in the wound jd we're about to arm ourselves
with the death over the i'm sorry i couldn't
help myself Look, I'm still trying to get over
my hate for Chicago, but I just can't help myself.
I grew up hating Chicago, and I'm not used to
being in the Eastern Conference yet, so that's
going to have to wait a few more years. As long
as you don't do any Chicago Cubs hating, then...
No Cubs hating. I don't have as much passion
for baseball as I do hockey, but... Can you really
hate the Cubs though? I mean like, you start
to hate them more than anything, right? Yeah,
that's the only Chicago team I like is the Cubs.
I'm one of those weird people that only likes
one local team. Yeah, then I'm all over the country
for the rest of the sports. JD, what position
do you play? In hockey, I played goalie. Okay,
well that's lame because we can't really battle.
I mean, I can score on you. I'm gonna say that.
I'll score on you. Good luck! Didn't play any
position because I've never played hockey before
so I can't be involved in this conversation He
see me play like a half a game before I think
yeah She's the only the only one out there with
all the guys And as always you've obviously heard
Amanda and you've heard myself, but we also have
movie revolt Dan with us hello Dan. Yeah Let's
start with you, Dan. How's your week been going?
Oh, it's going pretty good. Pretty uneventful
for me. Just been busy lately. But yeah, other
than that, you know. I've actually been enjoying
the NBA finals. I have no rooting interest whatsoever,
but you know, it's been good. Boo LeBron. Boo
LeBron? Yeah. I don't like LeBron. He's an Ohio
guy, and I can't like Ohio. I stopped watching
after the Spurs were eliminated, so I can't speak
to this. Alright, what about you JD? How's are
we going? Well, we just going pretty good We
had another ultrasound today the big big ultrasound
for our little guy That's baking in the oven
right now. So everything's healthy. Everything's
good We went out and bought a whole bunch of
furniture and we got some more baby clothes and
I don't I tell my wife I don't know why we're
spending money on a lot of this when I know our
parents are gonna pay for most of it and Pay
for a lot of clothes. I don't know why we need
to spend our own money on it, but We're doing
that still, so. It's just part of the fun. It's
been an amazing ride so far, so my week's going
pretty good. Excellent. I will let Amanda go
next because I'm going to take a big chunk of
time on mine. So, Amanda, how's your week been
going? Well, I'm just over here loving the Blackhawks
and buying napkin rings and stuff, not, you know,
diapers and baby furniture, but it's been a dream.
I did have an interesting experience going to
see Spy this week with some people bringing in
their 11 -year -olds, pretty sure. Well, they
were younger than that. This movie, I was dreadfully
appalled throughout. It was a man, it seemed
like a man and a, you know, husband and wife,
and they had three kids that were all under the
age of 10. It was ridiculous. Yeah. Every time
something flashed on the screen, I was like,
I just wanted to run down there and cover their
eyes myself. If they wouldn't have been they
were sitting in like the front not not like the
flat seating But like the first row of as it
like as whatever you call that stadium seating
Yeah, they were in they were in the first row
and we always sit almost all the way to the back
wall If we wouldn't have been separated by that
much I would have really had to bite my tongue
to not say something to them on the way out.
They must be Blackhawks fans I don't know. I
don't know what I don't know what people do like
my thing is There's too many people that go into
movies with no knowledge what the movie's about.
I'm not saying that's not, you know, I myself
can do that, but I at least know, you know, at
least the genre or, you know, what age, you know,
it's kind of pointing at. But what I was telling
Amanda, it reminds me of a couple years ago when
I went to see Les Mis in the theater. And five
minutes in, this couple walked out. And I'm like,
did you not realize? If they were gonna be singing
this whole movie. That's different than taking
your kids though. You can just walk in a movie,
but if You're going to take your children to
the theater or show your children a movie. I
think even with Dan having a small baby and JD
having a baby on the way, even they can concur
that you should probably censor what your children
are going to watch through certain age. And to
do that, you need to look into what your children
are going to be watching. We're pretty sure that
it was just a couple that wanted to go see this
movie and they couldn't afford a babysitter.
And so they're just like, the kids are coming
with us. We don't care how many penises are flashed
on the screen. Yeah. So, yeah, that was an interesting
experience. Amanda was very much appalled. She's
still talking about it. That was like a week
ago, so. And P .S., Blackhawks fans just beat
up cabbies like Patrick Kane. We don't take our
children to Rated R. I have a feeling we're not
going to get away from this. Nope. All right.
Hey, hey, real fast, though, too, because I think
this year especially is even more fun because
there's a very good chance as of right now that
me and my wife may end up moving to Tampa within
the next six months. So I'm sort of in a fun
way becoming a lightning fan now because of this,
this little rivalry we have going. Go ahead and
jump on that bandwagon, JD. When you fall off
and you're in the dirt, I'm gonna laugh and point.
We'll see. We'll see. Isn't that better than
being a Red Wing fan or something? Slightly.
Well, Detroit will always be my bread and butter.
I'm a huge Red Wings fan, got a fun little coach
this week that I'm excited about. But if I'm
gonna have a second team, I can live with the
Lightning. There you go. That sounds like all
Tampa Bay. It's like the Cubs you kind of adopt
them because you feel bad for them My mom and
my brother watched this watch the Cubs games
religiously, so I had no chance in that I had
an interesting week. Let's start with the funner
stories I don't know exactly what day this was
it might have been more than a week ago, but
So, one day, we're getting ready to... I don't
know if we were actually sleeping or if we were
getting ready to go to bed or whatever it might
have been, but... No, it was definitely like
three in the morning. Okay, it was like three
in the morning. And I'm woken up to the fact
that Amanda has heard a noise in the house. It
was three footsteps, three knocks. It was the
Babadook, apparently, within the house. And so
I wake up startled to the fact that she's telling
me basically that somebody's in the house and
that she's heard footsteps. And of course, I'm
the guy, so I'm gonna, in my half -asleep state
of mind, going to go walk through the house and
see what's the matter. So I'm going out there,
you know, I'm checking all the doors. I'm checking
everything It actually turned out that our front
door was unlocked that night So it maybe was
a good thing that she heard something so I actually
could lock the door But I searched in all the
spare rooms all the closets. I've looked in the
garage I've looked everywhere and about halfway
through this whole process. I think to myself
Amanda sleeps with a nine millimeter next you
know, next to the bed because she used to have
to carry it for work because she was going into
bars and, you know, dealing with thousands of
dollars of money, so she had to carry a weapon
on her. And I'm thinking, why am I walking through
the house with absolutely nothing in my hands?
Like, is she just waiting to see if I get killed?
I was waiting to see if he disappeared. And I
had to go in. If he made it out, everything was
good. I thought that was an interesting night.
There turned out to be nothing in the house except
for her imagination, so luckily we were safe.
She did go up after. After I had searched the
house, then she did a second search with gun
in hand. Just to make sure we're doubly safe.
She didn't trust me. She wanted me to go see
everything, but she didn't trust that I was actually
right when there was nothing. Have you seen any
horror movie ever? That's why I don't watch them.
The first person you take in, whatever. There's
a window right here. Me and the cat are cool.
We're safe. We're out of here. Oh, goodness.
And then we had an interesting... I think it
could have made for an interesting story, but
I kind of chickened out halfway through it. We
went grocery shopping whatever day it was, Saturday,
and we had bought a couple steaks amongst the
rest of the groceries, and we were trying to
decide what we were going to eat that night,
and we were outside doing something in the yard,
and it seemed like everybody in the neighborhood
was cooking out. You could just smell all the
different grills and all the good stuff that
it was cooking, and we didn't own a grill at
the time. purchase that I had yet to make for
the house, even though we have this nice little
back deck and everything. And basically within
the next 10 to 15 minutes, Amanda and I talked
each other into going to Lowe's to pick up a
grill based on the smells that were filling the
neighborhood. And so we were going to go pick
up a grill, bring it back, assemble it, hopefully
in time so that we could actually cook steaks
before the sun went down. She got a work call,
so she had to go. So I was on my own to go pick
out the grill, buy it, and bring it back. She
was kind of bummed because she was wanting to
be a part of the assembly process. But I'm like,
oh, it's no big deal. I'm a technician. I need
to build things. I'm a peacock. You gotta let
me fly. So I was like, it's no problem. I'll
start it while you're on the call. I didn't know
how much a grill assembly took, but I imagine
I would still be working on it when she got back.
But she was feeling pretty bad. And so she was
texting me that she was bummed out that she wasn't
able to help, et cetera, et cetera. And about
20 or 30 minutes later, she's calling me to tell
me she's on the way back from the call and asking
me how the assembly was going. And I was like,
not a problem. I got it all set up, ready to
go. And I was trying to decide how long I could
go without telling her that they offered me a
pre -assembled one free of charge. Or if I could
just take credit for somehow assembling it in
15 to 20 minutes without a problem. But I caved
in and told her that I got a pre -assembled one.
I have built a grill, and I know how long it
takes. So as soon as he told me it was done,
I was suspicious to say the least. But yeah,
so I guess I chickened out. I didn't try to claim
that as my own. Unless you showed her like a
George Foreman grill. Yeah, there you go. I have
one of those. I could have showed her that one.
And I was just looking at this thing like there
was literally no chance that I would have had
this assembled before midnight Well, Amanda,
you can come do ours the next time if you want,
because I put ours together and it was a gigantic
pain in the ass. Absolutely hated it. It might
be the right choice. The guy was at the store
and he's like, would you like one in a box or
assembled? And I was like, is this a trick question?
First of all. And second of all, how much does
it cost to buy the one that's assembled? And
he's like, it's no extra charge. And I'm like,
I feel like I would be an idiot if I said I wanted
one in a box. Yeah, no kidding. I don't feel
like the assembly process is that rewarding.
I don't I couldn't fit into my car out a ride
that sucker home I'm like I have a block away
from Lowe's. I think I can handle. Yeah for sure.
Yeah Alright, one more story before we get going
because I have to tell it and this is the not
as fun story so I've been getting up early for
work all week this week for different things
and today I had a meeting that I was running
at my store with about I don't know 10 to 15
people and it was going to be starting at 8 o
'clock in the morning so I wanted to make sure
you know I was well and prepared and everything
was set up prior so I got up at 5 .30 or 5 .45
something like that in the morning which is way
earlier than I normally get up. and got ready
and it's about a 20 minute drive. I'm about five
minutes from the house turning left on a green
arrow and someone coming the opposite way was
turning red or turning right on a red and decided
that he wanted to try to to floor it to get into
you know to make his turn before I made mine
and I had to had to hit my break or otherwise
I was gonna hit him so I hit my break and honked
to kind of be like yo that's kinda close, and
I'm hitting my brakes so I don't hit you. And
as soon as I honked, the guy decided that he
was going to slam on his brakes and come to a
complete stop in the road. So, needless to say,
my truck hit his truck, and that was fun. And
then, for the third time in my life, I was in
an accident, and the other guy decided to take
off. So, hit and run. But because I've been through
this three times, when I was in the car accident,
I didn't check to see if I was okay. I didn't
check to see if my car was okay. The first reaction
I did was write down his license plate number.
I've been through this like three times now.
So I'm waiting for the... the cops had already
brought his uh... apparently had a mugshot because
they brought him up on the monitor and they already
had a picture of him. I'm hoping that they tracked
him down and that citations were issued because
that was a fun experience. Needless to say I
didn't get to work until seven forty five when
that meeting was at eight o 'clock. did not have
a lot of prep work. So that was how my morning
went and I currently don't have a car anymore,
so. Amanda got to walk home two miles in the
80 degree weather before I had to get to work.
I'm glad that it wasn't an emergency though because
the police literally took 50 minutes to get to
the accident. Oh my gosh. I was standing in a
parking lot in the 80 degree heat. outside of
my car because it's leaking fluid and smoking
and I don't really think it's a good idea to
sit in my car at that point. So I'm just standing
in a parking lot for 50 minutes waiting for the
police to arrive. That's a good thing you weren't
there bleeding. Right, exactly, or that my car
didn't actually blow up. Yeah, just kidding.
So yeah, it was an eventful morning and that's
my story. Interesting. Gotta wait to see if I
am fixing my car or buying a new one here in
the next week or two. Just go buy a new one,
that's what I did. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping
because this is an old car and I was only going
to buy a new car next year anyways. That was
my plan, so I might just have to do it a little
bit early. There you go. Alright, enough chit
chat from me. I took everybody's time, so we
will get into our top 10 animated films. Before
we do that, let's do what we always do and get
any criteria, any exceptions, anything that you
kind of took into account as you were making
up your list. We'll start with our guest JD.
Anything that you were... Eliminating or you
know, what criteria did you have for your list?
I had pretty much no criteria I mean just any
animated film from 2010 to 2014 was available
and There was one little criteria that I was
kind of looking at I decided against it and it'll
make sense when I get to my picks But I'll set
of that just it just had to be animated. That
was really the only criteria all right, that's
pretty simple. I think I'll just jump in because
I'm along the same lines. I didn't eliminate
anything. If it was released between 2010 and
2014, it was eligible. So I didn't use any type
of strange criteria or do anything like the Academy
did by eliminating things. For whatever reason,
I might have eliminated things. So I didn't do
any of that. Amanda, anything special that you
took into account when making your list? I think
it was a strictly selfish list. So if I liked
it, then I'm putting on my list. I'm really not
going to put any parameters on it except for
the time span, obviously. All right. Dan, anything
special that you did differently than us? No,
it was animated and it was in that time period.
This one was pretty straightforward. Only ones
that like, there's one movie that I almost thought
about that's like half animated, half live action.
Since it was like 50 -50, I did not include that,
but that's about it. Yeah, we were doing we were
doing a quiz the other day. Sometimes we go on
this website called Sporacle SPORCLE And it's
kind of like a quiz website. We were doing one
together via her laptop on the big screen TV
and it was something about Animated films. I
don't remember what the criteria is that we were
Okay, the top I think was a top 100 box office
films animated wise and you know, we were doing
pretty well but We didn't get all of them and
at the end it shows you which ones you missed
and there was something that I think was like
Space Jam and like something else. I'm like,
yeah, I'm not gonna come up with it. That's not
animated in my head. Roger Ravn. Yeah, Roger
Ravn. I wasn't on those lines. All right, so
it seems like the criteria is pretty straight
and clear for this one. It's not like one of
those other ones where genres can kind of be
interpreted different ways. It's either animated
or it's not, so it should be pretty simple. All
right, so we will get into our list. Normally...
Most podcasts around let the guests go first,
but most podcasts around don't have a female
host or co -host So in my world the ladies always
go first, so I'm gonna let Amanda go first. He
did. I hope you don't mind Alright, so before
those two get any more heated discussions between
each other, and it might happen, we'll see what
movies are on your guys' list and we'll see how
much crossover we have or don't have, but Amanda,
what is your number ten? I'm going to start off
with the 2013 movie, Cloudy with the Chance of
Meatballs 2. Going sequel right off the bat.
Yes, sir. I think the animation in this film
is amazing. I think it's got its own unique style
and it's a little quirky, a little weird, but
I dug it and I thought the characters are pretty
fun and the plot, if you can call it that, I
guess it was a little weird and a little quirky
and that's why I liked it. Did you like it better
than the first one? Yeah, I'd say maybe. But
that's not in our, in our spam, so don't ask
me about it. I can't ask you anything outside
the scope of 2010 -2014. No. Alright, note to
self. Don't even bring up the book, cause that
would be, it's a different game altogether. Dan
or JD, have you guys seen Cloudy with a Chance
2? I have not seen the sequel, no. Yeah. I haven't
either. I have seen it, it's okay. I like the
first one a lot better than the second one, but
if you like food puns, it's a good movie. And
streaming on Netflix, no? I like the first one
I haven't seen the second one for some reason
I don't know why that is exactly but so I can't
really comment too much about that all right
so JD now we can let the guests go so what's
your number 10 sir I'm going in a completely
different direction I'm going with the French
film that I actually saw last night for the first
time Ernest and Celestine and I'm not exactly
sure who the actors are because I watched the
French version of this with the subtitles but
I thought it was a pretty adorable and super
charming film it's kind of got like this fireplace
kind of warmth to it and what I really like about
it is it doesn't seem too interested and like
self winking at adults that a lot of Hollywood
animated films are pretty interested in which
I'm okay with that stuff I like that stuff being
an adult but And I like that this just embraces
its childlike qualities about it. It's about
this unlikely friendship between a mouse and
a bear and them kind of overcoming stereotypes.
And in that sense, it's kind of timeless with
the with the movie that is trying to tell. And
it talks about these notions of, you know, teaching
kids these fairy tales, which kind of roots those
stereotypes. When in reality, that's not just
really how life really is sometimes. So and the
animation is really gorgeous. It's very simple
and subtle. colors but there's some really great
shots of like bigger scale worlds that they draw
in the towns that this film explores and overall
it's just really captivating really fun adorable
like I said I like it quite a bit so Ernest and
Celestine is my number 10. I think both you JD
and Dan are going to expose a lot of my blind
spots and I was doing I was trying to do research
for this for the last couple months it's something
that I think both Amanda, myself, and Dan, I
think all of us have been doing as we get ready
for different genre lists. We've been trying
to catch up on ones we've missed or whatnot.
And I did get a chance to see four, five, six
animated films that I had been missing, but I
just couldn't get to them all. And a couple of
them were not as readily accessible as I was
hoping. So it's a blind spot for me. Dan, I'm
pretty sure you've seen that movie though, right?
Yeah, I'll hold off on saying anything for right
now. It's a good one. I would recommend seeking
it out. And it is streaming on Amazon Prime,
if I'm not mistaken. So I have no excuse for
that one. Darn it. All right, I'll go next to
let Dan, since he's the... He's going to be the
master list here. He said on Twitter that it
was, what was it, the definitive list fan? It's
true. It is. I promise all 10 films will be animated
and will have come out in that time span. So
will that be the first time that we actually
abide by the rules for the entire list? Probably.
Yeah, probably. I might throw a comedy film in
there just to mess it up a little bit. I came
in here expecting some sort of live -action twist
like you talked about on Twitter, so that better
happen. I'm just expecting not to know at least
two films that Dan brings up. The characters
are animated, so doesn't that count? All right,
my number 10. Before I say any of my movies,
I am going to preface it. It wasn't like a criteria
or anything, so I couldn't bring it up then,
but I will preface my list by saying that I'm
not really necessarily... I think my number 9
and my number 10 aren't maybe worthy of being
in the top 10. So I'm already undercutting my
own list. But I feel like if I had seen some
of these blind spots that they would probably
take these spots. So I was really kind of struggling
to see. two films that I felt were worthy of
being in the top ten, and I'm not sure I really
found them in my number nine and my number ten.
But then the rest of my list, I'm pretty confident.
I kind of have two sections. I have like a four
that I feel really strongly about in my top four,
and then I have the other four that I think really
deserve to be in the top ten, but didn't quite
make the top four. So just preface that as I
go into my number ten and my number nine here.
My number ten is going to be from 2014, and the
reason it's here is more for its uniqueness,
more for... a film that doesn't necessarily go
with the cookie cutter animated film that you
get. So I appreciated that. And that would be
2014's The Box Trolls. I'm not saying this is
a perfect film. There are some issues with it
here and there. But from just a visual standpoint
and just kind of a stylized standpoint, I think
it's something that was unique for the half decade
so far, something that there wasn't a lot of
comparisons. that you could make between that
and other films, so it kind of stood out for
me. I don't think it was the best film of 2014
in the animated world, but it was just enough
to squeeze in at my number 10. I do like The
Box Trolls. I like that studio, Laka, I believe.
Yeah. And there's other films that might come
up that they have done as well, but I like The
Box Trolls. I think my expectations were a little
too high when I went in to see it, because I
remember loving the trailer, even though the
trailer was just them putting it together. making
the movie but uh it was one of the best trailers
i think from last year yeah the character design
is really is really great and uh you know it's
got a really dry sense of british sense of humor
but i think right yeah All right. Well, Dan,
what's your number 10? My number 10 is also currently
streaming on Amazon Prime, if you have not seen
it, which I'm going to guess a good amount of
people have not. It is a Spanish film. It is
called Wrinkles. It might have been going to
try to pronounce the director's name, but I will
say the the American version, which is available
on Amazon, is the voiceover is done by Martin
Sheen. And basically he plays this elderly man
who has just was recently placed into a home
by his son and kind of goes into the trials and
tribulations of that in the community and Overall,
the animations pretty, you know hand -drawn basic
animation It's not fantastic but it's just the
story itself is really great because it gets
to like a lot of those issues that we don't talk
about when it comes to death and growing old
and you know how we deal with our elderly and
and things of that nature so and Martin Sheen
is really great in that with his performance
really subdued and in a lot of ways So it's a
nice little film basic story and it has a lot
of interesting characters and kind of a dark
sense of humor at times and It at all. It's does
not try to even though it's animated. It doesn't
like hinder its drama at all. It's it's really
poignant in that way so if you know anyone who's
ever had Grandparents who've gone through like
Alzheimer's or anything like that. I think it
definitely is a a good thing to watch because
sometimes just through the lens of an animated
world, it's a little bit easier to kind of comprehend
or go through. This was one that I read a lot
about in terms of research for this list. It
was one that I just didn't have time to get to,
but it was one that I wrote down that I want
to check out at some point because I only heard
great things about it. So now that it's made
your list, which I wasn't sure if it was going
to make anyone's list or not, but it was something
that I consistently saw in research. So I'm definitely
going to check it out now. But now it's officially
good because I named it number two. Yeah, it's
officially good. The nail on the coffin. No pun
intended. I'm going to say it sounded like they
cast the perfect person based on the description
of the movie there. Alright, well let's circle
back around then to Amanda for her number nine
pick. Coming in at my number 9, 2011, Kung Fu
Panda 2, another sequel. So we're going to have
the sequel queen over here. Is your entire list
made of sequels? Almost. Alright, we're in for
a treat here, so why Kung Fu Panda, whatever
number that was? Two. I don't know, I like Jack
Black's voice. I think he's hilarious. And Amanda,
Panda, I mean that's a given. Just saying. I
thought the animation was pretty cute. It's gotta
be the best reason I've ever heard. I also think
the story was pretty touching. I mean you find
out a little bit more about... Spoiler alert.
No, I'm just kidding. Come on now. You find a
little bit more about the story behind the main
character's life and some hardships that he goes
through and I think it's touching and it's cute.
I liked it. Alright, so second sequel Kung Fu
Panda 2 from 2011 coming at number nine for Amanda.
So I'm just I was just reading the date JD what
do you got at number nine? First of all crazy
thing about Kung Fu Panda 2 I didn't really care
for the first one a ton So I never did seek the
second one out But I did see that that movie
has like an 81 % rotten tomatoes. So apparently
it's really good Well, I cry, so it should have
been 98%. I thought that they had the cartoon
series. I didn't see a lot of it, but it seemed
like it was decent. Not really sure. Anyway,
for my number nine, I'm going to a film that
a lot of people like to hate. But when it came
out... Critics loved it and most fans anyway
adored it. I'm going with Disney's Frozen at
my number nine and I want to say that I don't
think it was the film that people hate. I think
it's the internet that you hate and that's what
made people not like that movie but it was really
interesting I talked about this on our show too
because I was getting really sick and tired of
people giving this film a lot of crap after everyone
had kind of adored it when it first came out
and my mom was kind of telling me this really
fun story and about the Lion King because when
the Lion King came out I was like six years old
or something like that I was pretty young but
she was basically saying just how big that movie
was at that time that if the internet existed
the same way it does now She said everyone would
have done the exact same thing for the Lion King
because it was that big and what's really funny
after she told me that Just kind of browsing
through different things. There's so many different
like Lion King spoofs and Lion King Videos on
the internet where people are kind of doing that
to a degree but because it's not mainstream media
Because it's an older film. No one really cares
about it as much but a lot of it is still out
there so I find that kind of funny, but I will
stand out for Frozen. I still think it's a really
really good movie and I love how Disney in a
lot of ways makes fun of themselves with this
and their whole princess motif that they've had
for a very long time and that whole idea of you've
got to have a guy and this prince to be happy
sort of thing and it flips that notion on its
head. I think it's a little predictable but I
think it works in this movie and it resonated
pretty strongly with me. I thought the setup
in the first act was really great. Those opening
sequences when Anna was singing... to Elsa and
she just wanted to hang out and spend time with
Elsa and of course Elsa is just ignoring her
at all costs because she thinks that she's protecting
her when actually she's hurting her sister deeply
I found those dynamics pretty stimulating and
pretty poignant and you know people can hate
let it go all they want but it's a great song
and Idina Menzel is amazing she's really really
good and she nails that performance not just
in that song but with her voice acting throughout
the film It's just really good stuff, and I really
appreciate the fresh perspective that Disney
and this film took on the same notions that they've
explored in their entire history. You totally
one -upped John Travolta right there, by the
way. Totally did. You know, I've never understood
the portion of the population that's kind of
like what you were leading off with there that
just... dislike something because it's popular
or just dislikes it because other people like
it I just don't get that mentality you see it
with a lot of different things where oh this
is getting a lot of press or oh this is getting
a lot of headlines and I'm on like even people
that don't like I've seen that with people that
don't even haven't even seen whatever movie is
in question or TV show or whatever it is and
they're just automatically I'm not even gonna
go watch that because everybody else likes it
like I don't understand that yeah like that's
such a jaded What I hate is when I think something
is cool and then all the tweens get a hold of
it and then they wreck it and then I'm like I
can't like this anymore because I'm gonna get
grouped in with all these idiots so now I can't
like it. That's a slightly different angle on
that but... Just like Twilight. I read all those
books. I waited between books came out. I was
in college. It was for me, right? I loved them
and then the movies are coming out. I was super
stoked and then the tween sensation... took off
with it, and I was like, I can't even tell people
that I like these books anymore, and I'm gonna
be a closet Twilight fan, and not gonna say anything.
That's the Internet, that's the problem with
the Internet, though, right? It's crazy, yeah.
Yeah, so I've never understood that mentality,
so I agree with you. I don't understand the hate
for something just because it's good. I would
just say that I reenact Lion King every day.
With my son every day my saying why it doesn't
for me. It doesn't get old everyone else Like
this will be his first song that he ever sang
yeah, what do you think? I'm actually gonna learn
the words the circle of life still don't know
Make sure they're on the right now Alright, we're
at number nine. I will again like I said I'm
sounding I'm gonna sound like the person that
is stuck in the moment right now for my number
ten of my number nine like oh you just saw these
films so they're on your list, but You were with
Disney JD. I'm gonna stick with Disney, but their
2014 entry with Big Hero 6 I just thought there
was there was a lot to to appreciate about this
film. I mean, clearly it won the Oscar, apparently.
I don't think it was the best animated film of
2014. I'll reiterate that. But I think in the
same way Frozen speaks to the relationship between
an older and a younger sister, Big Hero 6 does
that a lot with the older and the younger brother.
And just kind of that dynamics there. And, you
know, I had an older brother, so... Not that
that makes me unique or special, a lot of people
do, but it just makes it easy to connect with
that. And I think there was some inventiveness
in the story there. So it was one of those things
that I didn't really know much about going in.
I've heard it's Disney, I've heard it's Marvel,
comic book background or whatever. But I kind
of went in with no expectations and I pleasantly
enjoyed almost the entire film. And I thought
there was some clever, unique... From like almost
like a technological standpoint that they were
doing, you know within the story not from like
an effect standpoint But I'm talking about like
that's something that I enjoy like with the back
to the future series and with a lot of sci -fi
series It's all the different things that they
have in that universe that they use that are
kind of intriguing to Understand or to kind of
get to know so I just thought it was a fun film
and Because I didn't have anything else that
trump these two That's why box trolls is my number
ten and big hero six is my number nine Yeah,
I think my favorite thing about big hero six
Kevin is it showcases something about Disney
that I love. And if you want to, I guess, parallel
Disney as like, let's say a major league baseball
pitcher, just to speak to you, Kevin, is like,
if you have a really good fastball, there's not
really a whole lot of need for you to throw curveballs.
You can just throw fastballs all day long and
still be effective and amazing. And I think that's
what Big Hero 6 is, because in terms of the story
and plot, It's pretty formulaic. There's not
a whole lot out here we haven't seen a billion
times, but Disney is so good at nailing that
that they don't have to do a whole lot of different
stuff for it to be effective and good. And while
I don't think it was nearly the best film of
last year either, the fact that a lot of people
still voted for it to be best animated film,
I think just goes to show how Disney is really
good at throwing their fastball, so to speak.
And Baymax, I think, was a pretty darn good character
for last year. I thought that was a fun character.
Incredible, yeah. And the stuff that they did
with him, you know, when he was losing power
or in the different things that they did with
him, just even the shape that he was and everything
was just a fun character for kids. Yeah, he was
really fun, yes, absolutely. So, alright, what?
Disney was like Mortal Kombat, and I kept doing
a shin kick over and over again, and I was winning.
That's kind of annoying. Yeah, but if it's effective,
why would you stop doing it? If you keep winning
the fights, then you're gonna keep doing it.
Stop this kick, and I will do something different.
Let you beat Goro, then what's the, you know,
it doesn't matter. We got into Mortal Kombat
here, I didn't think that was gonna happen. Alright
Dan, what is your your number nine foreign film
here? It's very related to foreign film This
is actually in English. I think it's American
film or maybe English film, but very much related
to Mortal Kombat not at all It's kind of it does
have some correlation with my with wrinkles my
number 10 because it does also like Sent around
an old man, which I didn't realize the connection
till now it is movie called My Dog Tulip. Okay.
It is and it's interesting because really the
only person that's in it is played by Christopher
Plummer. It's basically this old man and his
relationship with his dog and that's pretty much
the entire story and it gets into like it's very
limited dialogue most of it's just voiceover
with him and there's some some communication
whatsoever with him and other people but it's
just like Based upon a memoir. So it's a lot
of voiceover a lot of like journal entries situations
like that and the animation is really interesting
because it's each individual flame frame was
digitally Digitally colored so it gives it a
really like minimalistic naturalistic look to
it like almost like you're just opening someone's
sketchbook kind of in a way uh characters are
like uh interesting drawn it's kind of funny
because there's a lot of resemblance between
the old man and the dog they both have like just
like extended long faces but uh it's honestly
it's just a sweet story about a guy like an old
man who finds a solace in his relationship with
He can't get along with humanity, really, for
the most part. But his dog, he gets along with
just fine. And it's not too complicated. And
Christopher Plummer is perfect. He sounds like
your favorite uncle or grandfather. that great
narrator voice. So it's a fine little movie and
I would definitely recommend it. This one's a
little harder to get a hold of. It's not really
available in many places, but if you can find
it, it's worth checking out. Hey Kevin, do you
remember what I said right after Wrinkles? Just
edit that in here. Same thing. Same exact same.
Dan's job here and his role in this countdown
is to open people's eyes up to films that we
should have seen that we haven't and stuff like
that. He is the eye -opener. He's going to tell
us where to find them and what we should be watching.
He's an expert at that. My biggest concern about
watching this, especially this year, I'm going
to have to give myself some time, is I... I sympathize
and I'm very emotionally attached to characters
that really aren't human, that are humanized
in film. So dogs is a great example of that.
And I watched a film earlier this year called
White God that absolutely destroyed me. So I'm
going to need, like Marley and me, I'm going
to need about six more years before I can watch
another film featuring a dog in a prominent role.
So I'll get back to you in a decade on this.
What about the short, The Feast? Did you see
that? I did. That was pretty adorable. I will
say it's what's interesting about my dog, Tulip,
too, is a dog just acts like a dog. You know,
it's like you often with animated film would
be like anamorphicized or something of that nature,
but it's not. It just acts like more so than
Marley and me. Like it just the way they portray
it. It's interesting in that way. So there's
actually even like him trying to get it. The
breed it's really and some of the humor in it
is kind of odd like just like it shows you Just
kind of the odd relationship humans can have
with their pets and how they might take it a
little bit too far at times All joking aside
if I can get a copy of it. I'll certainly give
it a go for sure All right, that means we're
back to Amanda for her next sequel and what would
be your number eight pick Amanda? Bring it down
to 2010 and go with Toy Story 3 sequel trend
continues Alright, so Toy Story 3 coming in at
number 8 for you. Now I know everybody on the
internet seems to think this is probably number
1, number 2 material, so why number 8 for Toy
Story 3 for you? I don't think it blew me away.
I was really impressed by the first Toy Story,
but as it went through, I feel like it wasn't
anything that was mind -blowing by any means.
I think it was definitely something genuine and
touching and fulfilling, but it wasn't anything
that's blown my imagination out of the water.
Did I cry at the end? Of course. Fair enough.
It was straight feels. That's all you can say.
It gave you the feels. All right. All right,
so Toy Story 3 coming in at number 8. I will
not say anything about that film quite yet. All
right, JD, what's your number 8? For my number
8, I'm bad, and that's good. I'll never be good,
and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather
be than me, Mr. Wreck -It Ralph. is my number
eight. And this was easily my favorite film of
2012. Loved every second of it. Suck it, Brave.
You didn't deserve that Oscar. Hey, hey, now,
come on. I thought you were coming at me for
a second and I was like, did you do this again,
JT? Look, this movie is miles above Brave, in
my opinion, but I love it. In fact, Wreck -It
Ralph... would probably be way higher on my list
if we were talking like my favorite animated
films, but I was kind of looking at this a little
bit more objectively than just my favorites.
So it comes in at number eight, but I love this.
It's wonderful use of video game nostalgia, which
is something that really speaks to me. It's really
rich and fun world. I love how they travel through
like the electrical cords and the search protectors,
like their main lobby of this world that they're
in. And I love it. And the story of Ralph I think
really resonates with me because he thinks that
he needs something to be happy or to fit in and
he's not okay with his identity so he goes on
this journey to get this medal. He comes across
another character named Vanellope and through
that journey he realizes that his identity as
the bad guy is a good thing and the way that
they play on that is very clever. It's really
great. I love the relationship between Ralph
and Vanellope and it's very strong and depicted
gorgeously and When we get to the climax of the
film and he does say that line that I used to
begin this Like Amanda I had the field there.
It's awesome Incredible I love love record Ralph.
It's it's not just you know It's not just a film
that speaks to me, but I think in terms of as
a piece of art I think it's really really good
and really well put together so It comes in at
my number eight. I will agree with you 100 %
at your statement that it's the best animated
film of 2012, and that's all I will say. Going
into my number eight, let me get my reason out
before anybody judges me when I say it. My number
eight is going to be my first film from 2010,
and that's going to be Disney's Tangled. And
the reason I'm putting this up here... Not just
because I think it was a fun movie and because,
you know, the songs are good, etc. But for me
this symbolized somewhat of a turning point for
Disney. Sure, yes. You know, growing up... and
living through, you know, the rebirth of the,
you know, kind of that resurgence with Little
Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin
and Lion King, you know, that was my childhood.
As far as like animated films go, like, you know,
Disney films, that was my time. And the music
in those films was so phenomenal. The characters
were, you know, lovable and, you know, memorable
and stuff like that. And it just kind of happened
where... after those movies I was also a little
bit older so I wasn't watching as many animated
films so I kind of you know phased out of animation
for a while and you know maybe it was excellent
timing on my part because it just seemed like
outside of a couple films after that that Disney
kind of just went off the track a little bit
especially when you go into the late 90s slash
early 2000s there just wasn't it just seemed
like the studio just wasn't what it used to be.
Thank God for Pixar, right? Yeah, exactly. Luckily
there were some other studios that were kind
of filling that gap in the meantime. But it really
wasn't until Tangled came out in 2010 where I
started paying attention to Disney again and
I was like, wait a second, they still have a
little bit of that magic left. They can still
do something that still kind of harkens back
to not just the movies that I mentioned during
my childhood, but harkens back to Disney classic
era with all the different princess stories.
And it just was for me kind of a breath of fresh
air that's like Disney may be able to find their
legs again and be able to go in a good direction.
So outside of, you know, actually enjoying some
of the characters and enjoying the music and
whatever, it was just like just kind of a trip
back to what I liked about not just my childhood
Disney, but classic Disney. So I think it was
a significant movie in the Disney pantheon. So
that's my number eight. Yeah, man. Go ahead dang.
No, go ahead. I actually it didn't make my list
but it almost did and I think we watched it when
we were coming up with this and realized that
I I don't think I gave that movie enough credit
and I think it it could have been because Disney
was such on a downward spiral world where it
was like just my initial impressions were like
it won't be it won't be that good, but I honestly
think looking at the all the new Disney films
have come out, including like Wreck -It Ralph,
and you know, Pick Hero 6, and Frozen. I like
it the most out of those in a lot of ways. Just,
I think it has a good mixture of the old Disney
and the new Disney, and it has that revisionist
kind of ideals of princess and what that means,
so I enjoy it quite a bit. It almost made my
list, but unfortunately, I cannot find a spot
for it. Yeah, I agree. I think it's a really
good film. Now, I don't like it as much as Wreck
-It Ralph or even Big Hero 6 or Frozen, but it's
still a really good movie and you're right, Kevin,
that in a lot of ways it was kind of another
resurgence from Disney in a lot of ways because
since then we've seen all those other movies
I just mentioned and where's Pixar been since
Toy Story 3 not doing really that hot, which
is why I'm hoping Inside Out will kind of bring
Pixar back, but it's great. For whatever reason,
Pixar and Disney can't be on the same level at
the exact same time. Imagine how the world would
explode when that happens. But you're right,
though. I think Tangled is a really good film,
and I don't think a lot of people give it as
much credit as it deserves because it is really
good. And not that Disney was ever necessarily
in trouble in the animated world where they were
somehow financially not going to be able to keep
making movies or whatever. But I think some people,
even if you look at other studios, I think...
people don't necessarily realize how important
some of these films can be along the way for
those specific studios. And Disney did have a
time like that. I mean, that is what Little Mermaid
did for Disney back in that time period. Like,
they were not doing good in the animated world.
They were... They just put them for a while before
that, yeah. Yeah. And if, you know, if Little
Mermaid's not successful, you don't know what
happens there because, you know, they were...
They can consider... They can consider to shut
something down, go live -action, go TV routes.
They can do all kinds of stuff. And other studios
along the way have had films where... You know,
that film fails and the studio goes under. Or,
you know, that film succeeds and all of a sudden
you get two or three more films. So I think people
just kind of mistakenly think of Disney as this
presence that's just always been there. It'll
always be there. But it's not always, you know,
ribbons and, you know... whatever you want to
say, I'm missing the phrase, but you know, it's
not always golden. Puppies and rainbows? Yeah,
puppies and rainbows. It's not always. Is that
the phrase? I don't know. It sounded good. For
Disney, it wouldn't be like, it's not always
mice and ducks, I guess. Yeah, exactly. I think
in a film like Tango can be important, you know,
regardless of if you think it's just a juggernaut
that's going to continue going or not. Some of
these things can change executives' minds or
change studios' minds. And it crosses over with
Frozen, so now we've got a whole cinematic universe
to worry about. There we go. All I want to say
about Tangled is I don't care if it's not Pixie
Dust and 101 Dalmatians or whatever I want to
call it. I waited a long time for Disney Princess
to come out and look like me and it happened
and it was amazing. All right. One day we will
all know what that feels like, unfortunately.
Nice. All right, Dan, what is your number eight
film about old Ben? Kind of the opposite it's
about a young girl It's from 2011 and it is a
letter to Momo. It's it's what interesting about
this is watching it You'd think it's a studio
studio Ghibli film or studio giblets film But
it's The story centers around Momo, who is this
young girl whose father just recently passed
away. So she's actually moving out of the city
of Tokyo with her mother to kind of live with
their grandparents. And it's about that transition.
But then there's also this fantastical element
as well, where these three possible guardians
kind of come down and assist her with it. And
it has that feel that you would have with a Miyazaki
type of film, where it's a little... It has full
imagination a lot of vibrant colors the characters
are unique and similar to that like even like
jim henson where They can either be really charming
and sometimes you think just downright kind of
scary and freaky and and like where it's like
the possible kid's nightmare, but uh, it's just
a really touching story, too and It uh, it's
I like it's some of the jokes that it would say
at times I was there's some of the these three,
uh like Magical creatures that kind of tag along
with Momo. They Did to me the highlight of the
entire film, but they just kind of they're just
really odd and unique But it's it it also is
streaming on Amazon So it's easy to see but it's
a one that's kind of flung under the radar and
I know that Mezaki is kind of you know retiring
and Tio Ghibli might be Kind of you know going
on the wayside, but I think this is directed
by I'm gonna butcher this name So I apologize,
but it's Hayoki Okura And if Miyazaki ends up
retiring, I think he could be a nice spiritual
successor. And I think you see his influences,
but enough where he can also forge his own legacy
as well. So I know my mistake now, and my mistake
was when I was trying to find all the Studio
Ghibli films on Netflix and Amazon and on demand.
Even though they're not Studio Ghibli films,
I should have messaged you Dan and said, what
is available on Amazon and Netflix that I haven't
seen? And that was my mistake. So I've learned
my lesson for the future list going forward.
JD, have you seen this one? Haven't you can just
edit those thoughts? The big difference between
this one and the other two while I haven't seen
this one I actually was aware of this one. I
just hadn't got around to see it. But yeah, I
can only echo Dan's thoughts on Studio Ghibli
and you know this director I I would love to
see Studio Ghibli keep going even without Miyazaki
so I Look forward to catching up with this one
though takes us to number seven and amanda what
sequel or a three -quel or prequel do you have
coming up in number seven okay so quit judging
me this is my this is my one cheat slot and it's
going we don't cheat we're not jd and uh... this
is going to be my last uh... sequel How to Train
Your Dragon 1 and 2 from 2010 and 2014. And that's
because I could not decide which one I liked
better. I thought that the animation in these
films were really well done. I thought the story
was cool. Viking lore at all is interesting to
me. And I thought that the dragons themselves
were cute and even a little complex because there's
so many of them and they each have their own
little quirks and traits and I thought that was
really cool how they even paired them up with
their riders and it was a good time. I really
enjoyed them. I will piggyback off of this and
jump out of turn because this is also my number
seven is I didn't cheat though, I just put the
original How to Train Your Dragon from 2010.
So, no cheating from me. Everybody loves a rebel,
just saying. So, I think everything you said
is probably what I would have said. The pairings
of the people with the dragons, the development
of each dragon, it wasn't just a device, it was
someone that had a character that had feelings,
that had stuff like that. Like you said, that
kind of Viking setting is interesting. It just
created a cool universe. Obviously, it spawned
a second movie. It spawned a TV series and shorts
and all kinds of other stuff. So it obviously
did a decent job creating a universe that people
were interested in. So I agree. I think it's
definitely deserves a spot in the top 10 if we're
talking about the last five years. It's even
a live action show too, right? I think they do
like a broad, not Broadway, but like a live action
kind of like walking with dinosaurs type of show
with different dragons and everything. Yes, sir,
and I know JD will be talking about that at some
point All right, so I've gone already. So JD,
what is your number seven? My number seven is
the first of five films coming out of 2014. Although
my number five could be considered 2013, but
in Kentucky it was 2014. So I'm going with it.
So five films from last year. What a wonderful
year. And unlike I'm going to be in my own camp
on this one because this is my number five of
that. year and that is the Lego movie with Phil
Lord and Chris Miller directing this but what
a witty and awesome ride this is. I love the
goofy fun humor especially in the first two acts
of the movie and then we get some huge and awesome
heart at the end of it which is awesome and it
explores this really wonderful notion of inspiration
especially from the mindset of a child and I
love the creativity that Lord and Miller implement
to elevate that theme is great when you're talking
about like all the items that President Business
has and his relic collection is awesome I love
the different worlds within this universe that
we get to explore the characters like Batman
and um uh and What's his name? Vitruvus? I can't
remember. Vitruvus, yes. So like all that is
great. It's brilliant the way those characters
interact and of course the story of the resistance
and kind of overcoming that resistance is great
and then when we get to that turn in the third
act, which I honestly didn't expect, it kind
of came out of nowhere for me, but... I think
it was some of my favorite filmmaking in any
animated movie and of last year. It was incredibly
heartfelt and I won't reveal what happens for
spoilers but there's a character that kind of
finally acknowledges the inspiration I was talking
about and when it happens it's beautiful. I cried
a lot and I look forward to now experiencing
it on the other side of getting ready to have.
Sun because I think my perspective is gonna be
a little bit different this time around but I
love it I probably watched it 12 times last year
couldn't get enough of it. It's terrific All
right Dan you are up then with your number seven.
All right, so my number seven is probably one
I think everyone's probably heard of I feel like
I'm gonna get like the you know, the title of
just picking out random movies, but this one
I think it is What's interesting about my next
choice is that I felt this movie had a lot of
buzz going with it and then it kind of just died
and like no one talks about it anymore. And I
think that's sad because I think it's a really
great film and that's Rango from 2011, directed
by Gore Verbinski. Finally, a film that I recognize.
I love Rango. It was in my top 10 that year when
it came out. I don't know if it would still be
now. The thing that I just remember so much about
Ringo is just the animation and just the attention
to detail with it, especially the character design.
One scene that I always tend to remember is there's
this bar scene with Ringo and there are at least
tons and tons of characters and even like characters
that are in the background in the corner that
really aren't even like you know in the frame
with a shot all that much have so much detail
to like their texture and their feathers and
what have you. It's just amazing. It's just like
you can just take out like any shot and it would
be like a great you know, backdrop on your computer.
Um, and I think too, I love all there's, it's
chock full of really smart and intelligent and
sometimes obvious references to a lot of films,
everything from rogue warrior to Chinatown to
even any Griffith show in some ways. So fear
and loathing, fear and loathing, Las Vegas, obviously.
It was the the voice acting was like done on
a sound stage It's I don't know how much that's
it really impacts the performance to be honest
But it's it's an interesting idea and you know,
I think johnny depp actually does a really quite
a good job And I think honestly, it's probably
the best thing for probinsky's done since the
first uh prior to the camera begin movie and
Great, you know comedies of action and in story
as well. So, uh, yeah, I really really dig rengo
Yeah, much better than that latest edition of
the Verbinski and Depp team working together.
I don't know what you're speaking of All right,
so I think we're back around to Amanda for her
number six First, I definitely agree with Dan
about Ringo. I think texture was done really
well in that film. Did not make my top 10, but
not hatin' on you, Dan. Just shaking. I appreciate
it. Just me? Go Blackhawks, right? Yes, here
we go. In my number six, I do have JD's last
pick as the Lego movie. I think that everything
JD already touched on, I definitely love all
the characters, seeing all the worlds. I think
the humor was really cute and fun. Chris Pratt,
I think his voice is cool in anything. I loved
Batman in this, and I was never really... someone
like a kid who played with Legos, but as an adult
I play all the Lego video games possible. So
I got to enjoy some of the characters that I
played in the video games and I thought that
was really fun. Alright, so another vote for
the Lego movie. I again will hold my thoughts.
So JD, what is your number six? My number six
is my... second movie of 2014. It was also nominated
for best animated feature film and it is the
Irish film, not the Chinese film Dumb Voting
Members of the Academy, an Irish film called
Song of the Sea, which is a film that just blew
me away. I absolutely love it. It's really poignant
and it was very affecting and it was kind of
interesting to me because I haven't really seen
a ton of Irish animated films. So when I saw
this, I immediately compared it to something
like Hayao Miyazaki and Japanese culture. I felt
like is what this film was to Irish culture when
you're looking at the animation, which was really
great, a riveting score that was very inspired
by Irish culture. It was an amazing balance of
real world and a fantasy world with rich characters
and a very emotional story. a lot of the same
elements you get from Miyazaki films as well
and it's a really amazing tale of family and
grief and overcoming that sorrow together because
these characters this isn't a spoiler this is
in the first five minutes but they lose their
mother and she dies and it explores these ideas
of grief and childhood from both the kids perspectives
and the parents perspective of having to like
I said go through that together and the dad struggles
just as much as we see the children do and those
ideas of coping together as a family something
that I personally relate to just was devastating
to me absolutely overwhelming in all the best
ways and like I said the animation is just utterly
amazing there's like some fantastical sequences
that was just mind -blowing so I love it it was
very elegant very evocative and just one I couldn't
recommend enough so song of the sea makes my
number six All right, Amanda's number six was
JD's number seven. My number six is Dan's number
seven. So I will repeat what Dan was saying in
the last round and go with Rango from 2011 for
my number six. You know, I'm a huge animated
film fan, cartoon fan, you know, classic animation,
et cetera, et cetera. Understatement. Understatement.
And so I thought this was going to be one of
the easiest lists to do out of all our journalists,
my top 10 animated films. But when I wrote down
my for sure picks, I was only at like six. So
then I tried to start this journey to fill out
my list by seeing films I hadn't seen. And this
is one of the ones that I hadn't seen that I
watched for the first time recently that was
definitely standing out enough to make my list.
There was two that I watched just recently that...
both ended up in my top 10. So I was able to
catch up with Rango finally. It had been one
that I had always wanted to kind of check out
and I was blown away by this one. I think stylistic
and from a visual standpoint just some of the
stuff they did. It's kind of like in the same
type of argument I made for Box Trolls, but on
a higher level. It's just something that's very
unique. It doesn't fit that mold that you're
getting out of. It doesn't feel like a Disney
movie. It doesn't feel like a Pixar movie. It's
just something that kind of stands out on its
own. And like I said, all the different references
to different stuff, the amount that it balances
between what's going to be fun for kids, but
what's going to be fun for, maybe not kids, but
fun for a younger audience. going to be fun for
the parents that are watching alongside. I think
it strikes that balance pretty well. So everything
that Dan said, I really enjoyed Rango. To me,
it is definitely the best film of 2011 as far
as the animated world goes. So Rango is my number
six. All right, Dan, you are at number six. Very
nice. And I did want to mention for Song of the
Sea, which I unfortunately haven't seen and I
really wanted to because I really like Secret
of Kells, which, you know, he did as well, so
unfortunately I did not catch up with that one.
That was when I... So good, Dan. I think you're
gonna dig it, Dan, a lot. I love that animation
style. I know Kevin's not a fan of, like, the
shell -sealing, but I don't know. I love that
a lot. It's so good. That's actually one of the
ones I meant to mention is Song of the Sea. There
was three films that I was actively trying to
find a way to watch. because I wanted to be at
least educated enough to say that I watched it,
whether they made my list or not, and I just
could not find a way to watch Song of the Sea.
It wasn't available in any of the ways that I
was attempting to. I'm sure it's out on Blu -ray
by now. Is that the movie about selkies? Yes.
Okay, I've heard about it. It's really good.
The story is kind of weird because it's based
off of some Irish folklore, but it makes sense
when you watch it. It's really good. So hopefully
it'll be be more Cheaply available for me. I
never like going out and buying something before
it sir. That makes sense dangerous, but yeah,
so so my number six is actually already brought
up by JD and that is earnest and still seen and
I kind of basically echo what what JD said and
the way Like I see Ernest and Silas, it's like
a kids movie that is not scared to be a kids
movie. It doesn't really try to bring in any
adult humor, really. It's really just wholesome
in the best ways possible. It's like the way
I describe it. It's like a movie that you'd watch
if you go over your grandparents house and you
think you wouldn't like it, but then you end
up liking it. Yeah. It's it's very much like
that. It feels like it's based off a children's
book. And it really very much feels that way.
And like Janie mentioned, color animation is
really great. Sorry about a mouse and a bear
becoming friends. What more could you want in
the world? I watched Demolition Man with my grandma,
so I don't want to talk about all of it there.
And Bruce Willis movies, so... Well, like both
are different. Different relationship there.
Come to Rockford. All right. We're going to take
a quick break since we're halfway through, but
before we do, why don't we just quickly recap
our 10 through 6 choices to remind everybody
of what we've said so far. Then after that, we'll
take a quick break and come back with our top
five. So Amanda, what's your 10 through 6? 10
I have Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2. Number
9, Kung Fu Panda 2. Number 8, Toy Story 3. Number
7, My Cheat with How to Turn Your Dragon 1 and
2. And number 6, Lego Movie. All right, JD, what
was your 10 through 6? I have Ernest and Celestine
at number 10. I got Frozen at number 9. Don't
let it go. I have I Am Bad and That's Good, Wrecker
Ralph at number 7. The Lego Movie. Wait, I said
that backwards, I think. Rugger Ralph and then
the Lego movie at number six or seven, where
I'm at, and Song of the Sea. All right. My number
10 was The Box Trolls. My number nine was Big
Hero 6. Number eight, Tangled. Number seven,
How to Train Your Dragon, the original. And number
six was Rango. Dan? Number 10 was Wrinkles. Number
nine, My Dog Tulip. Eight, A Letter to Momo.
Seven, Rango. Six, Ernest and Silistine. That's
it. Don't say it anymore. Don't keep going. It's
just how counting works. I can't stop. All right.
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that break and we are back to give you our top
five animated films of the last Five years basically
and the half decade list, but before we do that
JD now is a good time I think for you to go ahead
and pimp out your show and let people know if
they've liked your first half of the list before
you make them angry with the second half Where
should they go to to listen to more of you and
your movie thoughts? Yeah, we don't talk about
the Tampa Bay Lightning as much, but we do hope
they win in Chicago But you can find us at in
session film comm everything is there, but you
can find our podcast on iTunes and Stitcher,
SoundCloud, and all the places you can find the
podcast nowadays. And you can follow us on the
social medias as well. Just search Insession
Film and you'll find us there. And like I said,
you can find everything and I'll censor hub at
InsessionFilm .com. And if you like movie talk,
it's definitely a podcast that you should be
subscribing to. Thank you. They give you a real
great discussion every week about a movie that's
in theater more mainstream. Him and Brendan do.
Coupled with a top three list, which is nice
because it's a little bit harder to narrow it
down to three. So it makes those conversations
pretty interesting. But they do a great job of
matching that with whatever the topic is for
the main movie review. And they also do, like
you said, it's a podcasting machine because they
have the extra films where they kind of dive
into more of the smaller releases in the films
or just something they couldn't quite. get to
on some of these bigger weeks in the main show.
So it's a lot of movie talk and it's a lot of
great movie talk. So it's one of the main shows
that I'm listening to every week and everybody
else should be too. All right. So let's get back
into the countdown. Amanda, you've said you've
exhausted all your sequels. So what is your number
five animated film from the last half? Pretty
cool. We're going to start strong with number
five and it's going to be Brave. Go back to the
sequels, go back to the sequels. If you could
change your fate, what would you do? Nah, if
I could change the fact that I saw that movie.
Yeah, if we could change that from being made.
I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. Just kidding.
That is, that is like, that is the one thing
like, you know, I was talking about how Tangled
like changed things for me and it's like, oh
Disney and, is this Disney and Pixar or is this?
It's just Pixar. Pixar, yeah. Just Pixar? Okay.
This is the type of stuff that reminded me more
of what I wasn't liking that Disney was doing
kind of before that. Like, I did not care for
this film at all. I remember seeing it actually
in the theater, I think I saw it with my nephew
and niece, and I just, I'm getting very, I can't
even look at it right now because I'm getting
the most evil eyes that I don't demand, but I
did not care for this film at all. There was
no character that I felt connected to. The comedy
didn't work that well with me. I just couldn't
find something I liked about this film. I'm sorry,
man, but go ahead with why you liked it. I'm
sorry to rain on your brain. Thanks for shitting
on my bubble, producer. Gosh. I loved it. I thought
that maybe the story wasn't as bombastic and
awesome as the other ones. I think maybe that
could have hindered it for some people, but I
think the relationship between the mother and
daughter was really awesome. and even her relationship
with the rest of her family was really interesting
and her coming into her own and stubborn young
female come on of course I'm gonna you know go
out shooting the boys and all that good stuff
of course I'm gonna like this movie so hate all
you want this is my selfish list and I just I
don't know I just I just thought it was forced
I think it's it was trying to achieve something
and I did it a way that didn't have as much tact
and subtleness as I would have enjoyed. Well,
I think your face is forced. Alright, getting
personal, getting personal. Alright. If anything,
you could at least appreciate the visual aspect
of this movie. I think that the animation was...
I didn't, he said. Didn't. I'm going to turn
it over to the guys and let them back me up.
I'm already in enough hot water with Amanda.
I'm not going to say anything first. Hopefully,
actually, I... I mean, I... I like Brave. I don't...
I wouldn't... It didn't make my list. I don't...
I think it definitely was not... Maybe, you know,
along the same lines of other Pixar, but... I
don't know, I didn't hate it. I thought that,
like, Amanda said the story of the mother and
daughter was certainly a strength. I thought
that... There's kind of, like, a turn in, let's
say, Halfway Through, which was interesting.
I... not where exactly I expected to go. I did
like the fact that it wasn't just that story
of this girl who's a tough chick, you know, there's
more to her character than just that, like the
anti -princess, she's a little bit more dynamic
than that, but like Amanda said, I think the,
you know, the one -hander into that movie is
the overall story, it's a little, little lacking,
and especially the second half, just to me, didn't
really come together, but I think animated -wise,
it is great to look at. It's just, I think, yeah,
and I think the downfall of that, it also took
away the Oscar from Wreck -It Ralph, if I'm not
mistaken, so. No kidding. For a reason. No, no,
stop it. I connected with it a lot. I mean, when
I was growing up, kind of a tomboy, and my mom
would always say, you know, that's not very lady
-like, ladies don't do that. And I'm like, Mom,
I'm not a lady, I'm a girl. And I feel like that.
That's what this whole movie was. Well, maybe
that's why I couldn't connect with it. I wasn't
the tomboy, so I guess that was my problem. Kevin
was not a tomboy growing up. He was. For the
record, Dan and JD are much more political savvy
with their answers and responses than I am. I'm
going to have to work on that. So, alright. When
you're married for five years, you can't learn
how to do things. It doesn't matter if we've
been married for five years or not, he's sleeping
in the shed tonight for that one. It's my shit.
Just make sure, you know, your block's docked
when you go out to it. Right? And I'm taking
the gun this time. All right. JD, what's your
number, whatever we're on, five? My number five
is one of my favorite films from Hayao Miyazaki,
and it also happens to be his swan song, and
what an incredible song it was. It is... Well
for me 2014's The Wind Rises for a lot of other
people was 2013 but man I love this film what
a really unique film and it takes place during
World War II and of course it's from the Japanese
perspective and that is unique for our culture
anyway because we see so many World War II films
from our perspective and another thing I like
about it is that the main character here I'll
just say his first name because I don't want
to butcher his last one but his first name is
Hiro in this movie and he's an Air Force engineer
for Mitsubishi who was the lead contractor for
building fighter planes in World War Two for
Japan and I'm a guy I talk about this a lot on
our show but I'm a huge Air Force guy love it
I always wanted to grow up fighting in fighter
jets it was just something I've always wanted
to do and a lot of my inspiration came not just
from family but from World War Two I loved the
idea of Fighting and all that sort of stuff.
It's certainly out my alley. So this film spoke
to me on that level and like I said the change
of perspective was really fresh and I liked that
and in the film hero ends up engineering the
Mitsubishi zero, which was which was a very formidable
fighter plane in World War II for anyone out
there that doesn't really know. So that to me
was really unique. And his inspiration for all
of that, Miyazaki does a really good job of building
some wonderful dream -like sequences, some really
gripping aerial animation that was great. And
when we get to the second half of the film...
It turns into this really vibrant romance story
that culminates in some pretty heart -wrenching
ways. And while that was a bit arduous, it does
show the realities that we all face. And when
looking at this through an American perspective,
it's great how Miyazaki humanizes the other side
of the war, which again, in American culture,
we don't see that in movies a whole lot. So I
loved seeing that. And the way that we all experience
emotion was... Fantastic. Like I said, it's heartbreaking.
It's utterly heartbreaking in the latter half
of this movie, but it's fantastic. I love it.
And I even love how Miyazaki ends this film too,
because it doesn't get into the war really, or
even the defeat of Japan, but it ends and crystallizes
the character of Hiro in what I thought was just
an in an impeccable way. So I love this film.
Absolutely love it. So The Wind Rises makes my
number five. You know, JD, that's actually something
that we somewhat have in common, I guess, or
we share. I kind of grew up with a lot of Air
Force influence as well. My mom was a captain
in the Air Force back in the 60s or 70s, somewhere
in there. I'm not going to get my dates right.
And my dad actually was super interested in being
in the Air Force, but he wasn't allowed to because
at the time he had some eardrum problems. That
was my biggest thing. Yeah, but he still loved
planes and I actually grew up in a house that
our basement actually had. probably over 200
model airplanes that he had built and painted
and done everything. He even would go as far,
like if it was a silver plane, like he would
take candy wrappers and smooth the silver ones
out so it would actually have the shine and not
just be paint. And he would put those around
the airplane. So I grew up with a lot of that
influence too, but this unfortunately was the
second of the three movies that I was actively
seeking out and I could not find a way to watch
it. If that's the case, I think you'll really
like it and appreciate it. especially if you
like Miyazaki stuff, but you should see my office
at work is really strange because I got movie
posters everywhere and where I don't have movie
stuff, I have pictures of P -51 Mustangs and
F6 Hellcats all over my office. So yeah, I love
it. So I will be seeking this one out as soon
as it becomes something that's available for
me to watch. I don't know. It seems like some
of the Studio Ghibli films are a little bit harder
to obtain, at least in the rouse that I've checked
so far. So it's a blind spot for me. I'm sorry.
Well, my office is my work truck, JD, and I have
a Blackhawks beanie baby in the window. Well,
congrats to you with your Blackhawks. Alright,
for my number five, like in my number six, it's
the two films that I had not seen up until recently.
I was debating on whether I was going to admit
this on the air or not, but I literally did not
finish, I did not see this movie until a half
hour prior to this record. So that's when I finished
this for the very first time. Yes, it was the
first time I'd ever seen Toy Story 3 was today.
Oh, wow. Yeah, I know. Major blind spot that
I corrected. I had to for this list. There was
no way I couldn't watch that and then show up
for this list and try to sound intelligent. So
Toy Story 3 from 2010 is my number five. I will
say that I somewhat suffered from the fact that
I hadn't seen it right away, so I've... instead
had to be exposed to how much people have praised
it for so long, which I think might have built
it up even a little bit more than any film was
gonna be able to follow through with. I don't
think that took away from my enjoyment, but I
think I'd heard just so much about it that I
was just expecting the world's greatest movie
I've ever seen, and no movie was gonna be able
to fulfill that, but it's still my number five
for the decade, and there was still a lot to
connect to. especially as someone that is probably
at least in real, you know, outside of a couple
people I know online. As far as people I've met
in real life, I'm probably the biggest toy collector
I know. I have boxes in the basement to prove
that. So I could relate to the whole idea of
the kind of that separation that you have, you
know, whether it's a toy, whether it's a childhood
friend, whether it's moving, you know, maybe
moving from one town to another and leaving a
town, you know, and then... surroundings that
you're familiar with, anything as far as separating
yourself from something you're familiar with.
Even just the whole idea of Andy leaving school
and going off to college, whether the toys were
involved or not. Just that separation and kind
of shifting to a new phase or letting something
go because you're doing something else that you
feel you should do or have to do or whatever.
So I think there's a lot of different levels
that I can connect on and I definitely think
it was sentimental. I get the connection that
a lot of people had. I don't necessarily know
if it was as clever as the original Toy Story
with some of the things, but I don't know if
you could do that in a sequel, but I still think
it found, the thing I like about the Toy Story
franchise in general is that each film found
a different aspect or a different way to investigate
with these toys. You know, it wasn't just, Like
the first film where you're dealing with the
treatment of the toys or the neighbor, that whatever.
I like that you're finding ways to talk about
toys in a box versus toys not in a box. Toys
that are on display or in a museum instead of
being played with. Or in this situation, toys
that are being played with by young kids compared
to toys that are being played with older kids.
They found different ways to keep reinventing
the wheel and find different aspects of toys
to deal with. And I thought that was pretty impressive.
I enjoyed the film quite a good deal, and that's
why it's up in my number five. Yeah, that's a
pretty good one. Alright, I figured that we'd
have crickets on that one. So, Dan, what's your
number five? My number five is gonna be one that
again probably maybe some people haven't seen
and it's one I I caught up just because doing
research for this list and is the painting from
2011 it is like a French film in like every way
possible like you would watch even if like you
couldn't hear the language you would just know
like this is just feels French and it's and all
maybe in all wrong ways but just look at the
poster for the damn film yeah It takes place
in a painting like it indicates and it starts
off as this almost Romeo and Juliet type of story.
There's a social culture that's been created
within this painting and your status is determined
basically by how far the father far along you've
been drawn like characters that are completely
been colored and they're like the highest those
are still missing spots and colored in are more
the middle class and then there's like the sketches
which are the you know the lowest of the low
and it kind of it starts within that because
you have you know this boy character who is in
the higher class in love with one of the more
lower class characters but then it goes beyond
that and kind of opens up this world and you
know it Has the sense of maybe it is like a childlike
story, but it really gets into some really deep
psychological and physiological questions and
and you know about life about creation and things
like that because all these people the person
they kind of worship is the painter or worship
is a strong word but he's the one that they are
you know say is responsible and the reason that
they're the way they are is because it's preordained
by the person who painted them and it kind of
so there's a lot of that but then it gets into
outside of that individual painting to something
a lot more and also just the animation is unlike
anything else on my I wouldn't say it's better
or worse than anything else. It's just it's unique.
It's like it's hard to even tell. Is it hand
-drawn? Is it, you know, computer animated? It's
just a weird mixture. What was that? I said it's
actual paint. Yeah. Yeah, it's quite unique.
And this is also currently streaming on Netflix
as well. So it's quite good. All right. So those
are our number fives. Let's switch back around
to Amanda. What? Direction are you going with
your number four? I don't even know if I want
to say this because I feel you're gonna jump
on my shitty in but Tangled from 2010 is my number.
Why would I that was my number eight? I'm not
gonna crap on you after that one I think that
this was a defining princess moment for me. Like
I said, there's finally a princess that looked
exactly like me and I was super stoked just for
that fact and once I actually saw the film I
really fell in love with it. I loved all of the
relationships between the characters. I loved
the animation. There was another tavern scene
in this one with a lot of really cool characters
as well that had their own. thing going on and
I really appreciated a lot of this film and I
think the story was very touching, maybe a little
dated but I think that the characters brought
it to new life. Alright, I'm in agreement since
I also had it on my top ten so no need to be
worried. Alright, JD, what's your number four?
My number four is a DreamWorks movie but I like
to pretend it's from Pixar because I think it
rivals Pixar's best films and I kind of separated
these on purpose because it gave me two chances
to talk about them but a number four for me is
the first how to train your dragon I know you're
gonna do that because I thought about you know
combining them because when I first came up with
this list I had like 20 30 choices and I was
like well I'll just combine them like Amanda
did now we have an actual one to talk about Like
no, no, I'm gonna separate these I'm gonna talk
about him twice But what a captivating film.
I love it. It's about family. It's about defying
Stereotypes to a degree coming into your own
finding your own identity the relationship between
Hiccup and toothless is so great and as I was
kind of talking about earlier I'm a huge animal
lover. So I very much relate and and sympathize
with this movie I love that, you know Hiccup
he's always being told what he's supposed to
do and who he's supposed to be. But he's wanting
to create his own life. And when he runs in the
Toothless, it creates some really, really great
imagery and animation, but also create some really
great heartfelt sequences between the two of
them. I got to also talk about John Powell because
he was born, absolutely born to score these movies.
It's absolutely fantastic. And those first sequences
with Hiccup and Toothless, especially the score.
Just elevates those scenes absolutely perfectly.
It's incredible So every time if I'm just listening
to his score like on Spotify or on YouTube or
something I immediately start to well up because
I think it it just puts me back into what's so
great about this movie and not only Not only
is the relationship between Hiccup and Toothless
great, but I think it also juxtaposes this really
rocky relationship that Hiccup has with his dad.
I thought that balance was handled incredibly
well. Like Amanda was talking about, just the
lush landscape of it, the Viking lore and the
village of Berk, it's just a fascinating world
to be in. You know, as I was talking about with
Miyazaki, I'm an Air Force guy. I like flying,
so the idea of getting to be on a dragon and
flying in this universe is great. It's very envious
every time I watch this movie. What kid doesn't
want a pet dragon? Exactly, exactly. That's a
win right there. It's incredible. And I also
love kind of the ending to this movie. I love
how it kind of starts off with... Toothless kind
of being injured because of hiccup and then it
kind of reverses that and it's not Every day
that we see animated film, especially from American
Hollywood animated movies that your Protagonist
is injured to a degree especially to the level
that it is in this movie That's just unheard
of in a lot of ways. So I love it. It's it's
fan fan friggin fantastic I don't know how this
is a DreamWorks movie cuz I mean you look up
a lot of DreamWorks movies A lot of them aren't
that great So this is just an illegal on its
own. When I saw you guys joking about combining
the two on Twitter, I was like, I'm not even
saying these, I already have that on there, I
feel bad. We'll blame it on Dan. Alright Dan,
shoulder that one. My number four has already
been talked about. It was the best animated film
of 2012. It is not titled Brave. It is none other
than Wreck -It Ralph. And just like everything
JD was saying, it was the best film of that year,
not just for the video game nostalgia, but for
me, for the creative that went behind that, all
the different things that they... Thought of
to do whether it be being able to see the arcade
through the you know through the game Whether
it be like you said trip traveling through the
power cords and stuff like that You know the
bad guy and on group There was just so many little
things that they threw in there that were super
clever not to mention the fact that you're dealing
with the whole overall theme that you deal with
between between Ralph and obviously the different
characters that he comes in contact with in his
journey and going from what his first intentional
mission was to what he actually learned throughout
the process. So it's just another step in the
right direction for Disney in these last four
to five years. And JD, like you were saying,
almost like another resurgence or another renaissance
form lately. So I think it's by far, and this
is one that I actually rewatched recently for
this list because I had seen it once. And the
original time it almost, I don't know if dragged
on is the right word, but I don't know if I was
just tired when I watched it. So I was really
glad I rewatched it because I liked it even more
on the second watch. And it really catapulted
it up on my list. I think it was something that
was very fun. but also had some meaning behind
it. So best movie of 2012 in the animated world,
line number four. And another thing too I want
to touch on is, because I was talking about with
John Powell and his score for How to Train Your
Dragon, which is really awesome, but Henry Jackman
also adds a really dynamic score here that I
think was one of the most underrated scores of
that year, which is really fantastic. So I think
that is a big part of the sentimental aspects
of the film that works really well was Jackman's
score. that pathetic moment out when Ralph realizes
it wasn't the thing that he was really seeking
after was going to fix his problems. Rare it
turns from there is it's just awesome. All right.
Dan, what is your number four? Well, my number
four has also been talked about already and a
lot just in general. It's because it's awesome.
And that is the Lego movie. And not really much
more I can say about it. You know, it's so good.
It led to the best moment in the Oscars last
year with the live performance of that song.
But, you know, I love how it completely recontactualizes
everything with one huge plot twist. in the middle
like how it completely just makes everything
make even more sense in the first half and even
kind of make it a little bit even a little deeper
in that end but it's you know it's funny it's
the animation's great i love how it looks stop
at motion animation but it necessarily isn't
and how it sticks to the lego motif the entire
time no matter what and uh and it's really just
really downright funny and it doesn't necessarily
rely on like all these cameos and And it's just
takes chances which is I mean itself is a chance
making a movie called Lego movie and then going
our ghost not necessarily doing something that
you would see and Yeah, I love it. So are we
gonna are we gonna blame this later on when we
get the play -doh movie and the slinky movie?
Absolutely, it's all Bill Lord and Chris Miller's
fault That'd be funny the play -doh movie that
was like really serious and got it got it was
the Play -Doh movie, but also using Play -Doh
to re -enact Play -Doh, the actual philosopher.
You know, that would be... There you go. Now
we're into the world of Animaniacs, I think.
Yeah. That would be awesome. All right, Amanda,
what is your number three? Well, maybe it's been
talked about to death, but I'm going to keep
it going and bring Rick at Ralph into my top
three. And everything everybody's already touched
on, I think, amazing. Love John C. Reilly's voice
for anything. Of course, the arcade video game
aspect is definitely close to my heart, growing
an arcade, growing up playing video games, all
that good stuff. And that really brings out my
love for all of the characters that present themselves.
And as soon as you see this... Bad guy therapy
group you instantly feel for all them and Ralph
and his struggle and I was really really digging
the world behind the games and all the shots
that pan from what's going on in the game to
what's going on outside of the console I thought
were really cool Like you touched on earlier
Kevin how they move between games I'm also just
the characters movements. They're so video game
like and I thought that was really true to form
all the intricate costumes. Everything was done
so well and even like the regenerating I thought
was really cute. There was a Skrillex cameo in
there. I don't know if anybody caught that. I
thought it was awesome and this kind of felt
the cracks for me until this year and I was in
love with it. I kind of went full geek out on
this one and geeked out for the duration. And
that sequence when Ralph is in the bug game that
is actually Skrillex music too. Yeah, yep, yep.
All right. JD following that one up. What's your
number three? My number three is one that's been
talked about and I'm gonna talk about it more
because it deserves it I'm going with Toy Story
3 at my number three. I Love this movie. I think
I love it a lot more than what you guys were
even talking about I think this film wraps up
the trilogy Perfectly in fact so perfectly that
if you want to read or hear my entire thoughts
You can check out the in session film podcast
and the session film comm We talked about this
in our Pixar movie series a few weeks ago, and
we talked about all three of the Toy Story movies,
but I love this one. And I think where the first
two Toy Story films, they focus primarily on
the characters and their relationship with Andy.
This one for me was more about the relationships
with each other and how that thread was going
to keep them going no matter how the journey
was going to end. And at one point, I'm pretty
sure that they were all going to die. And I'm
pretty sure that's where it was going. But I
love that and I love how Toy Story 2 talks a
lot about abandonment and what that means for
the characters. In Toy Story 3 they expand on
that even further with this notion of being replaced.
Oh, yeah, and for these toys, you know, it was
one thing about being left behind and being abandoned,
but then it's just a whole nother thing. It's
a whole nother dynamic and layer when you're
talking about being replaced and you're talking
about the main villain of Toy Story 3, which
I think is one of the best villains of any animated
film we've ever seen. I think it touches on those
ideas just perfectly. It's really, really fantastic.
So I really love it like you, Amanda, at the
end of this film. kids. pretty dusty at the end
of it, but I love how it just ties everything
together. You know, on our podcast, we were talking
about how that final shot of when they leave,
when Andy drives off and the camera pans up,
it's the exact same shot as the very first shot
of Toy Story one, which is exactly why we don't
really want a Toy Story four, because the first
Toy Story trilogy was incredible. It wrapped
everything together just perfectly. I love those
final sequences. with Andy and the toys and where
he realizes that nothing is going to replace
their memories together and just kind of ties
back into that notion of replacement. So it's
just incredible. I could talk about these films
all day long. So Toy Story 3. I'm not going to
let you because otherwise I'm going to miss you.
Yeah, incredible. Everybody's feeling the feels.
But back to Toy Story 4, the romantic comedy.
I'm just kidding. I think that scene that you
mentioned where they're about to die, I think
seeing that acceptance among them and how they
handled that, that was so moving and so touching.
And then even seeing how they're able to just
keep moving on after that, whereas they have
been so stuck in their ways for so long, I think
that it was a real cool way to wrap everything
up. Absolutely. Completely agree. All right.
I'm gonna keep the broken record going and keep
talking about stuff that's already been talked
about with my number three And it was talked
about a little bit earlier in the podcast. This
is what I would consider the best film of 2013.
I don't care, like JD, how many people are gonna
hate on it. I don't care how much Hiro yells
at me for this. My number three is going to be
Frozen. If Tangled opened the door and kind of
was that pivot point for Disney, Frozen ran through
it. And I don't care what people say. It's not
just because of the song. There's a lot more
to it. There's a lot more that was... going on
here. Wait, what though? I mean, I'm a woman.
I don't need to get bashed in the head over and
over again with the idea that you don't need
a man and you can't just fall in love with so
many of your meet for it away and we finish each
other's sandwiches and things like that. It was
more than that for me. For me, the biggest draw
for Frozen and the biggest thematic kind of connection
I had to it, even though it's a different gender,
is between an older sibling and a younger sibling.
You know, growing up with, uh, my brother was,
uh, let's see, 11 years older than me. You know,
that's a big difference, and that's, uh, that's
somebody that you grow up with where, for a long
time, they're almost that hero figure or they're,
you know, they're the big brother, but 10 years
in the future, you know, I mean, they're able
to do things that you can't, um... You know,
it's not like they're your hero, but they're
just like this figure that you want to hang out
with. You always want to hang out with the older
sibling or whatever, you know, when they have
their friends over. I remember, like I said in
a couple podcasts ago, one of my first exposure
to an action film was sneaking down in the basement
because my brother and his friends were watching
Die Hard, and I watched it. well, PQ behind the
couch because I wasn't supposed to be down there.
Like, it's that type of thing where you want
to do what they're doing, you want to be involved
in that, and that's what you get in this one.
You have the younger sister who just wants to
be involved and just wants to be around her older
sister because she looks up to her. It's her
role model. And you get it from the reverse where
that older sibling just can't see that. They
don't realize and they think they're either doing
something to protect them or they think, you
know, they're doing what they have to do and
they don't quite get... the connection that that
younger sibling is having on them and for me
that was a big draw even if it was sisters in
this fact and it was brothers in mine it's still
something I can relate to and kind of also getting
to through that journey throughout the movie
where you're going to get to the point where
it's not just that idolized or that fictional
version of that person but that you get to actually
discover and learn about the true person as you
are at an age where you're no longer just looking
up to them but you're looking at them more on
an equal plane and I just think there was a lot
and that's not even counting all the fun stuff
with with Snowman, I can't remember all the characters'
names because I'm blanking, but with all the
other side characters that brought a lot of comedic
aspect, and I don't care if you hate the song
or not, that's one of the best animated songs
that has ever been written, and it's sung by
one of the best vocalists of our generation.
He has a serious woman crush on her in the first
place. Adina's awesome though, she is awesome.
I am a singer in my background, that's something
that I grew up with, and I appreciate people
that vocally can do stuff besides - auto -tune
and stuff like that and she is someone that can
do stuff that a lot of human beings can't do
with her voice it's just like my gooboo blade
from a male standpoint and so I'm gonna appreciate
that and that's just icing on the cake for what
is to me the best example of what I used to love
with Little Mermaid I don't see what her voice
is to be different than anything else. I'm an
older sibling. I'm eight years older than one
of my brothers, 16 years older than my other
brother. I have two little sisters. My relationship
with my one brother that I'm closest with is...
extremely almost as strange because I raised
him and so all his memories of me when we were
little are I'm making him eat vegetables and
not she didn't let me go to the movies with her
and her friends like I mean I just can't I can't
get past that you're stuck this much on this
film because of that relationship See, I completely
disagree with that because like you, Kevin, I
mean, I'm the oldest of my siblings as well,
but I think there is some dynamics that are really
well earned in this movie when you're talking
about just wanting to spend time. I remember
very vividly some of my biggest regrets growing
up was my brother wanting to hang out with me
but i was too busy hanging out with my friends
are are doing other things that i didn't involve
him and and i kind of wish that i would have
so that actually spoke to me and i think it's
that which is the heart of the movie that elevates
those other ideas of you know the the princess
notions that Disney is kind of making fun of
here which has been their identity for the longest
time so I mean I'm not a girl so obviously maybe
other females can give another interesting perspective
to that but I find that idea at least on paper
interesting when their identity you walk in Disney
World or Disneyland all day long you're gonna
find Disney princesses and a who's who come from
films who their their biggest core was at the
end of it i'm going to win this guy and live
happily ever after and that for disney to basically
give themselves the middle finger here and flip
that notion on its head is incredible to me but
it's not just that on its own it's set up by
the relationship between the two and the heart
of it and i think that is really one i think
that's what makes this movie fascinating to watch
on top of all the characters are talking about
him Yeah, to me the connection between any love
interest or any princess type thing, that was
the least of my concerns in that movie and it
didn't necessarily win the movie over for me
and it didn't ruin the movie. For me it was the
sibling relationship, it was something that I
could connect to on that level, then tied up
with comedic fun aspects and music that I enjoyed.
So to me it was all three aspects coming together.
So how could you hate on my brave... Because
I didn't - Because I connected with that in this
way. Right, and everybody connects to - So you're
gonna hate on my connection. No, everybody connects
to different films. It's all based on your personal,
you know, if you have a background that can't
connect with the No, no my problem with brave
was not the connection. It was I didn't get the
other aspects either I didn't have music that
I liked I didn't have fun I think I know why
Dan just sits here and doesn't say anything the
entire time. He's just enjoying all of it. Well,
see, I took my niece to see this, see Frozen.
It was the first movie she ever saw. She was
three at the time. She loved it. But then she
became obsessed and my brother had to deal with
that while I lived and stayed away. So I'm not
allowed to talk about it. Because I caused that
to happen. Like frozen I it's not on my top ten
my issue with it is that I was just I just I
thought what kept it from being to me like the
echelon of Disney films is like it When it came
to antagonists, I thought that character was
just really weak. I know that wasn't the point
of the movie, but it felt like, if anything,
they should've just gotten rid of it altogether,
because it felt like it really just tacked on.
Yeah, I didn't even need an antagonist. And I
would agree, but since it was a rather big story
point for it, that to me was, it's one downfall,
which is why I like Tangled a little more, because
I feel like it's complete in that aspect. It
has a lot of those... and it has and I feel like
it ties everything a little together though.
I think with Tangle though it gets away from
its music like halfway through I feel like it
forgets it. Right. Yeah that was my only thing
that would knock Tangle a little bit was that
I wish the music would have been more prevalent
throughout it. It seemed like it was good in
the first half and then all of a sudden it was
like we're done with the songs. That's kind of
interesting. I'll disagree a little bit because
I don't feel like the antagonist of Tangled is
doing a whole lot either. And for me, where they
play on different ideas in Frozen, I agree he's
not a great villain by any means, but it flips
ideas that I found interesting where the heart
of the movie was still amazing. But I like Tangled
for what it is, but I don't think its villain
is doing anything in that film either, really.
Just feel like they're both manipulators. Yeah,
if you look at it like hot his name is Hans right
in in frozen He's a manipulator and entangled
Mama dearest or whatever She's also manipulator
a lot of her choices Whether she chooses to do
something directly or to see how they play out
into where she can feed her hand in To see where
it's best gonna fit to her needs to try to manipulate
Rapunzel and doing what she wants to do and make
the situation what she wants. They're both manipulators.
She does have one really great song though. I'll
give her that. And I think what I meant by that
too is that she felt an important element of
the story where the antagonist in Frozen, Hans,
was just... Kind of just there like it like you
can remove him completely and you're not yeah,
I completely disagree, but we're getting too
far into it I don't want a review for frozen.
I didn't know I was starting that with my number
three pick. I apologize everybody I'm just kidding.
I don't it's number three best film of the last
five years Anyway, what's your number? Yeah,
well, we'll let it go and I'm sorry I apologize
and we do that was coming, right? Yeah, I think
it's required now every time you bring up that
you need at least one All right So my movie,
for number three, is completely different direction
altogether. It's from 2010. Interestingly, my
last three choices, all from 2010, just realized
that right now as I looked at my list, but it
is a French film and it is called The Illusionist
and not the movie starring Edward Norton for
those that don't know. Oscar nominated The Illusionist.
Yes, it was Oscar nominated, very much deserving.
There's a strong allegorical complication with
this film because it stars this music, it covers
this - this life of this musician who is kind
of seeing his career kind of dwindle. People
aren't not really into magic like they used to
be. This is taking place in the mid -50s or so,
and rock and roll is starting to come into its
own. So people are far more interested in that
than this old guy and what he has to offer. And
then it is also hand -drawn, and considering
hand -drawn animation is also kind of dwindling,
there's obviously some comparisons there. It's
done by the same people who brought us triplets
of Belleville who if you have not seen that I
would highly advise it and similar to that film
There's very little dialogue. There's maybe I
don't know maybe the two or three little conversations
here and there, but it's mostly conveyed through
kind of sounds and body language and things like
that. And so it says a lot without really saying
anything at all. And as someone who really likes
silent films, I think it works in that aspect
and like how it conveys its story and its characters
in that development. So and I just I don't know,
like the animation is strong as well. And it's
it's just it's so bittersweet and sad and it
It just really tugs at those hard strings with
this character, Biki, as he ends up becoming
kind of this friendship with this young girl
who kind of falls in love with magic, and she's
like the one person who still seems to be in
practice, what he does, but then you see him
kind of, you know, still kind of end up disappointing
her and how that plays out. But yeah, I really
love this movie, and that's why it made me number
three. So, fun fact about that pic for Dan is
that the director for Your Wrinkles pic, Ignacio
Ferraris, that's what I'm going with, was also
an animator on The Illusionist. So, there you
go. Nice. Point for JD. And hopefully the mics
didn't catch any... I wasn't laughing at you,
Dan, but Amanda hasn't looked at me in the last
four minutes. I had some really lewd hand gestures
going on and he couldn't help with them. It wasn't
fast enough to the mute. I was not laughing at
your choice. Hey! Funny choice, delusionist.
No, obviously one of the only three films I managed
to get nominations in 2010 apparently. They couldn't
fill the whole slate with other films, so we'll
talk about that in a little bit. But obviously
worthy there. Amanda, you didn't like Frozen,
so what is? the second best animated film in
the last five years. Dazzle us with your pick,
please. Well, despite the fact that Dan and JD
are making me feel like an uncultured swine when
it comes to animated films, I'm going to go with
a 2011 pick, Puss in Boots, for my number two.
Explain yourself. Explain myself. Well, I love
the witties. I love the cats. Besides that, no,
I think that... I was drawn into this movie.
I love Shrek, love all the Shrek movies, Puss
in Boots, probably my favorite character besides
the one that Justin Timberlake plays in the Shrek
world. And I think that Antonio Banderas can
do no wrong, just saying. And I think the whole
- C -Expendables 3, I'm just saying. Yes. I just
watched Take the Lead for probably like the third
time the other day, just cause. There's no hope.
I think the storyline and the plot is not necessarily
traditional Puss in Boots, but it's so entertaining
and the twists throughout are so amazing with
Humpty. All the costumes are so well done. If
you look at Humpty, I think everything about
his design is just... so perfect and all of the
cat movements and even Humpty's egg properties
I think were the best. Plus the magic aspects,
I think they were really cool to look at, really
well done. Loved all the side characters, Jack
and Jill, what have you. Plus I think the humor
was just so funny. prison rape joke with Humpty
Dumpty. You know what they do to eggs in San
Ricardo prison, it's not over easy. And also
some of the names of Puss in Boots, Frisky Two
Times, like come on. There's some things that
are very adult but I think overall the movie
was just adorable and I loved it. This is one
of those that I didn't see until you made me
watch it in preparation for this list. I don't
have anything negative to say about the film,
so I'm not going to get in trouble. I just didn't
have necessarily something that spoke to me loud
enough to make my top 10. I like the score. There
you go. Got good comments there. All right, JD,
what's your number two? My number two, I'm going
back to the world of Studio Ghibli. And man,
this film absolutely blew me away. And it is
last year's 2014's The Tale of the Princess Kaguya.
This is one of the most beautiful films I have
ever seen, animated or not. The watercolor animation
is stunning. It's absolutely stunning. There's
one sequence in the film. where the Kaguya character,
she's running away from her village and it kind
of turns into this black charcoal -like sequence
and it is amazing, absolutely amazing. It set
the mood perfectly of what was going on. It set
what was happening internally with that character
at the time and there are a lot of sequences
like that in this movie. The story is based off
of Japanese folklore. I don't know a ton about
it myself, but I feel like the style of animation
that is here seemed to represent that well. I
know it took them like 10 years or something
like that to make this film in total because
it is, from what I read anyway, a big story over
in Japanese culture so they wanted to make sure
they got it right and man did they absolutely
get it right. It's very emotionally potent. It's
thematically very rich. And it's another great
film about identity and the Princess Kagawa character.
She's almost like a spiritual character that
was kind of placed on earth. That's kind of the
basis of the story anyway. And she's trying to
figure out what being human means and why she's
on earth. And she lives in a place she doesn't
want to live and she's kind of having to live
through her parents. And it becomes pretty tragic
and heartbreaking in places. And I think it has
a lot to say about parenting because her dad
just who they adopted her once they found her
in the forest but her dad just wanted the best
for her and he had good intentions so he tried
to do all these different things for her not
realizing that he was naive and that he wasn't
understanding her heart and what she wanted and
the exploration of that idea was very affecting
and very moving especially when we get to the
final sequences of the film and the crystallization
of those story threads is just devastating it's
incredibly it's just incredibly amazing. I couldn't
recommend it enough. I kind of watched this on
subtitles in the Japanese version. I have heard
that the American dubbed Version of it is actually
really good too. I wouldn't know but This was
Brendan's my co -host on the in session phone
podcast. This was his favorite film of last year.
It was in my top 10 It's incredible or my top
20, but it's really really good and is my number
two This is the third of the films that I was
actively seeking out that I was not able to find
so it was uh I was trying to watch song of the
sea trying to watch the wind rises and trying
to watch The tale of the princess could be and
I just could not figure out a way without buying
them so good This sounds like fifth element,
but animated in Japanese form Would say it's
no It's a very strong honorable mention for me
I the thing that kind of it's like number like
11 12 ish for me the reason it didn't make my
list it just At the end of the day. I don't know
if it for me personally it and it's runtime of
two and a half hours Which is a little much for
me, and I don't know if it it got like a tad
bit indulgence I felt like it got to its point
along by the time it got to its point, it already
got there about 20 minutes earlier, and I was
just like, you don't need this extra 20 minutes.
But like I said, it's a great film. Like you
mentioned, the animation is breathtaking. It's
deserving of all that praise. It was just, that
was a little bit that kind of stopped me from
putting it on my top 10. I loved every second
of it personally. I could have watched a three
hour version of it to be quite honest. I mean,
I loved all the characters and I can see that
because it is a long movie and you have to kind
of stick with it. But I think everything she
goes through is just fascinating to watch and
heartbreaking to watch in a lot of places. But
I feel like every part of it has a lot of purpose
behind it may be a little bit redundant, but
I feel like that's our lives also in a lot of.
a lot of places. I think that's why I appreciate
something like boyhood, right? The redundancy
is part of life. So it works for me anyway, although
I completely understand your argument, Dan. All
right. That brings me to my number two. Honestly,
I have gone back and forth in my head between
my number one and number two so many times in
the last day, week, hour. I keep flip -flopping
them back and forth. So to me, they're somewhat
interchangeable. But, like GD, I'm gonna talk
about one that hasn't been talked about yet.
Why? Because I believe I am the only one above
the age of 15 that likes this film. Luckily,
there's a couple billion people in the country
under the age of 15, so it makes a crap ton of
money, and it's obviously spawned a whole universe
with sequels and spinoffs, etc. Dan, you're not
gonna be surprised at this one, so my number
two comes from 2010, and that would be Despicable
Me. I adore this film for so many reasons, and
again, I feel like I'm the only one above the
age of 15 that likes Despicable Me, but the lines
are so quotable. Steve Carell is absolutely phenomenal
as the voice of Gru. I find, even though a lot
of people probably find the Minions annoying,
I don't at all. There's one named Kevin, pretty
sure. And there's one named Kevin, so that does
not hurt. In going though, we're trying to go
back and forth between my number one and number
two, the dilemma with me was do I go with the
film that I think is giving the strongest message
and has the most thematic resonance? Or do I
go with an animated film that I think is just
the most fun? The most enjoyable from maybe a
kid standpoint or just kind of overall entertainment
and that was kind of the battle I feel like one
of my films was doing one and obviously this
was doing the other And I guess I just think
there's there's a lot of memorable moments and
it was the most fun I had had in an animated
film for quite some time. It really almost Reinvigorated
my interest in animated films like I've loved
animated films for so long growing up I kind
of lost touch like I said tangled kind of reawakened
the Disney aspect of it, but it was you know
a year before that or earlier in that same year
actually with Despicable Me when I went again
with my niece and nephew and we just had a blast
and I was like wow I did not expect to be enjoying
an animated film to that level and I love Despicable
Me I think Despicable Me 2 was not nearly, not
even close, not even in the same league. It was
a major disappointment and hopefully, hopefully
minions will not be the same. Hopefully they'll
be back closer to their original Despicable Me,
but I loved it, so I will champion it as my number
two. Now I'm really wondering what your number
one is, because I thought that could be your
number one. Don't look at my list. I didn't know
that you liked that movie that much. It's a good
honorable mention for me. I like it. You're not
the only one. I couldn't get Amanda to, Amanda
has never seen the entire Despicable Me movie.
She falls asleep every time. I just don't get
it. I couldn't get her to re -watch it and watch
the whole thing without falling asleep. Okay,
it's so fluffy I want to die. Cool, I can get
down on that part. I love those little girls.
Alright, anyways, Dan. My number two is one that's
already been brought up, so I'm not going to
say a great deal about it. I will say it was
challenging because it was like, which one do
I go with? And I feel like my one and two are
kind of obvious, so I will preface by that. But
I ended up going with how to train your dragon
one for my number two. I think both of them are
great, and the reason I went with one though
is that I just... the love the the boy and dog
story of Toothless and Hiccup and JD mentioned
the idea of like having a fastball and kind of
doing that and that type of story is very much
that and but I think why it works so well with
and how to train your dragon too is the context
that it's put into and the situation that Hiccup
is in and what it means this dragon you know
within its culture of being a viking its relationship
with his father there's a lot going on to it
so there's a lot at stake there and it's overall
just like the characters are all great and Toothless
is a great like fun character with both cute
and uh you know you just fall in love with him
so uh and two it just gives you that sense of
flying and it It was a great example of how to
use 3D in a great way. The animation tends to
be a good format for 3D, and I think How to Train
Your Dragon was one of the best examples of that.
Those flying sequences are just phenomenal, and
as JD mentioned, with the addition of the score,
it just really ties it all together. The second
one, too, was great. I love the addition of the
alphas, the expansion of the world, and some
of the... really the strong story beats that
gets into as well but I just went with the original
because I felt like overall I just it's you know
maybe it was just because it was the first time
I was brought into this world and I had zero
expectations for it compared to the second film
but I just liked it a tad bit more all right
More love for How to Train Your Dragon, I think
we all have it on our list, so obviously there's
a universal appeal there. And that means it's
the big moment. It is time for everybody's number
one film, animated film, of the last half decade.
I don't think any of us know where you're going,
Amanda, so you lead the way. What is your number
one film? You know, you've already been looking
at my list. I'm going to throw it out here. 2012
film. Rise of the Guardians is my number one.
On nobody else's list, a little surprised because
I loved it so much. I think the rewatchability
of this is completely on point. The message here,
super huge. I think that Jack Frost is completely
relatable. We can all love him right off the
bat. And the more we find out about him and his
past... And the reason why he's chosen to be
a guardian, I feel like you can love him even
more. Very heartbreaking in that sense. Super
touching. Tons of elements that I really fell
in love with this, about the way that each character
was done. even the Sandman who doesn't even speak
the way he communicates. His communication style
is so amazing with his dream sand and the way
that morphs for his thoughts and his feelings.
these guardians really aren't what we thought
they were. They're not just somebody who brings
us presents or money or Easter eggs. They have
a purpose and to see those individuals like Santa
having those badass, naughty, nice tattoos and
all of the weapons that they have and their powers.
All the portals that they use, so well done.
I think they're really cool. Even the The bad
guy, the evil villain played by Jude Law is the
voice actor and it's pitch black and even his
portal comes up from underneath a bed I mean
it's so cool all the nightmares that they that
they create with his black sand I thought everything
about it was really cool with the animation and
the message and just overall really awesome film
I think the only thing for this film that might
have been on the negative side for me was that
I was I actually really liked the idea and the
concept behind it and What I thought they were
going for obviously, you know in the same footsteps
as what Shrek did in one universe They were trying
to go for in more of the traditional character
type universe and I thought I kind of built this
one up a little bit too much in my head for some
reason I got really behind the concept and I
kind of built up unrealistic expectations for
it So I think that's maybe why it didn't resonate
as much for me, but I don't necessarily have
anything bad to say I know a lot of people do
but I don't Dislike this film. I don't know.
What do you guys think of Guardians? I have not
seen it so That was I didn't think we could find
one that Dan had Touché Dan because you had how
many on your list that I have not even dipped
a toe in so you better pick this one up if I'm
gonna watch one of your I will try to watch it.
I think it's on a it was it's when I feel for
like a long time, but I have never Even the end
credits scene is so fun to see while the credits
are rolling. They have these little minions.
I'm not going to point out whose minions they
are in the movie, but they have their own little
shorts at the end, and it was really touching
and cute, and it had a feel -good ending as well.
JD have you seen this one? I have I might have
I'm gonna have to give it a little another chance
though quite honestly because the first time
I watched it I certainly didn't have the resonance
with it that Amanda has but I didn't hate it
either but I was I was so tired the first time
I watched it that I just kind of was just skating
by quite honestly so I need to really give it
another re -watch to give it an authentic opinion
on it all right fair enough so nobody's hating
your pick there I hope not. Except for the internet
when they get ahold of us. Well, though it's
the internet. We're going to break the internet.
No, don't say that. All right. Janie, what is
your number one? My number one is not a surprise
to anyone that listens to our show. It was in
my top five of 2014. And again, it is Dean DeBloy
at his finest. It is How to Train Your Dragon
Dose. What the sea was to Finding Nemo, the sky
is to How to Train Your Dragon. It is so graceful
and gorgeous. The flying sequences in this movie
are incredibly breathtaking and immersive and
And to the point I am actually going to get a
painting done of one of the sequences in this
movie Done for my son when he's born. I'm gonna
hang it up in his wall like right next to his
crib Because I feel like you could pause any
moment in this film when it could be a painting.
It's incredible I think the battle sequences
are really fun. They're really gripping and again
John Powell I love you. You are awesome. And
the score again is incredible here and This is
where I'm going to lose everybody, and that's
perfectly fine. You can call us crazy, and maybe
we are, but both Brendan and I, and I know of
at least one other guy. I won't name him, so
no one shames him, but I think this is the best
animated sequel of all time. I love, love this
movie. I think it advances the story in an incredible
way. Kind of goes to Lion King kind of territories
that is pretty difficult. that's vividly realized
and I love, love, love the second act of this
movie and how it slows down. incredible character
building and family dynamics that's just terrific
and how many blockbusters do we have out there
that slows down to show us a reunion that's full
of heart and is tender and is real and establishes
what I think is the heart of the movie before
the frickin film rips it away from you and I
think even when you're talking about Toothless
and Hiccup there's a maturity there with them
their relationship grows stronger throughout
the movie and there's some really great layers
that are added with the big twist of this film
that I feel like is very well -earned and I think
it just makes the climax even more visceral.
The ending itself is just moving and powerful
and I wouldn't change a single thing about this
movie. It's absolutely incredible and the supporting
characters are also great. Jay Bereshell, probably
my favorite performance he's ever given and even
Cate Blanchett adds a really dynamic uh... supporting
performance as well ala jarred butler maybe my
favorite support my favorite performance from
him as well i think he's just incredible in these
and he's found so i i i love it i i i i i think
it's fantastic i would certainly take over any
toy story movie and i love toy story absolute
adore that trilogy as i was talking about before
and i think this film and if how to train a dragon
three is even just good i'll probably take this
over the toy story trilogy i'd absolutely and
in love in love with these movies And you're
probably in love with this podcast because we
gave you five different chances to talk about
how to train your dragon between all of our lives.
Absolutely. And sorry for just kind of raving
and going on there on and on, but I love this
film. You're allowed to do that, especially for
your number one. Like I said, for me, the number
one, number two is a battle. Do I go with the
entertainment value or do I go with what I thought
was the best message and thematic resonance for
me or for maybe the best message that should
be going out there to the audiences? And that's
kind of the route I went. It's already been talked
about, so I'm not going to be doing anything
new here. I obviously have it higher than all
of you guys, but I'm also going for a 2014 film,
but I am going with the one that should have
won the Oscar, and that would be, or should have...
least been nominated. That would be the Lego
movie. And let me explain it before anybody pooh
-poos on my choice here, but I think this movie
is one of those things that I kind of equate
it to that time when you're either with a parent
or with a teacher or something and you're doing
something that's so fun that you don't even realize
until later on that you were actually learning
at the same time. Like this movie has a whole
bunch of fun on the surface, but it has a lot
of different layers to it and a lot of different
messages that I think maybe for some people are
kind of even lost in the fun to a point so it's
something that you can kind of maybe gain out
of repeat watchings or something like that but
I think there's a lot of strong thematic things
here and it's not just about the the twist or
the idea of from the toy angle or from the actual
Lego angle and what you should do but much more
from the conformity slash individual identity
that I think a lot of people in our society really
struggle with because we live in a society where
it's almost like you are expected or you are
brought up thinking that you have to do this
and this and this and this and this is what you
have to do and you're spoon -fed this from the
media and you hear this from, you know, you can
get kind of in that example that they're trying
to show especially in the beginning of this film
and I think it's an important message to realize
but at the same time that they also show the
dangers of the other extreme as well. And there's
a vital point in that movie where they do have
to go and do things as they should in order to
achieve something. So it's not just saying that
everybody be crazy and be yourself and be unique
with no restraints and no fear. It's to me the
movie is showing a balance and it's showing a
balance of knowing when that things should be
done in a certain way, but also knowing how to
still have an individual identity and creativeness
and that type of thing. So I think it's speaking
to a lot of different things that, yeah, you
can just view it as a fun film and hey, there's
Batman and there's this DC character, this Marvel
character, this Star Wars character and you can
just have fun with all the things and spaceship
and everything else that's going on and you can
just be wrapped up in that and have a good time
and there's nothing wrong with that. But I think
when you break it down, there's... There's some
layers there that, to me, are sending a pretty
important message in the way things go in today's
society in our digital media world. You are the
special, Kevin. I did until this podcast came
out. Specials don't live in the shed. Specials
do live in the shed, that's the thing. You're
right though in the sense that there is a great
balance there and I think that's what's so great
about the ending is it's not even just a realization
because I was talking about how there that twist
that there's a character that acknowledges this
inspiration that is set on when you're talking
about like the mindset of a child, but not just
that but how he almost reverberates to being
a kid when that line is spoken to him. And it
just, it's incredibly moving. I completely agree.
Like that balance is great. And like Dan, I didn't
say this earlier, but Dan said something that
was really important too when he was saying that
when you get to the twist of... what's happening
and there's that reveal. It makes all the goofiness
of this and all the fun aspects of it. It just
adds another incredible layer to it. Everything
makes a lot more sense. It's not just goofy fun
for the sake of it being goofy and fun. Like
there's a lot of intention and purpose behind
it, which is just superb. And the other thing
too is the level of intelligence. between the
people, between obviously the team that's creating
this, and what they were able to do with Miller
and Lord, and just all the different elements
that they're putting in this. Whether it's that
opening sequence, whether it's the song, whether
it's the funny pronunciations of different things
that are actually representing real life things,
there was a lot of cleverness put into this,
and a lot of time spent on details, so I definitely
appreciated that. And even though this was probably
my more fond of last year, I completely see why
it would be anyone's number one. It's a really
terrific movie. But last year was such an incredible
year for animated film, and there wasn't even
a Pixar film. They were completely absent, and
it was what I would argue one of the best, if
not the best year for animated film we've ever
seen. It was incredible from top to bottom. And
we'll be getting into a few more points on that
here in a little bit. But first, Dan, it is your
turn to reveal your number one film. Alrighty,
well my number one is already been talked about
and I thought I would go with something different
try to be clever or unique but at the end I think
if you just lying to myself and my number one
is Toy Story 3 and For a lot of reasons mostly
I think it's a culmination of everything right
with Toy Story and everything right with Pixar
It does something that I think is really hard
to do and that is get great deal of emotion from
really small moments It has those big moments
that we mentioned, but I think it has just really
like small and kind of intimate moments that
you would not expect in an animated film. There's
also just so much cleverness within this universe.
How it becomes this almost prison -like film.
Sunnyside becomes like a prison and there's little
tidbits they do like how markers become almost
like tattoos and jail tattoos and bins become
jail cells and like there's all these little
like you know you know tidbits towards you know
Great Escape and all these other cinematic references
and stuff like that and there's and too like
I feel like there's so many characters within
this universe within the story and they all are
juggled well and all have important place in
some way and even you know bringing in new characters
that it's always challenging when you're a third
film and you're going to bring in new characters
it's like is it is it going to work but then
you have someone who plays Lasso who is such
an interesting character and like ends up being
one of the best characters of the series within
just this one film and you can sympathize with
him exactly exactly there's a symphony there
you know even though he is an evil techie bear
who smells delicious. You know, you kind of,
you know, you understand where he's coming from.
I think Pixar is really good at casting. I think
that can kind of go underrated. Using someone
like Michael Keaton as Ken, genius, ends up working
really well. So, just to me, it's like, hopefully
Pixar can get back to the level again, but it
was like the... This is it. Like, Pixar could've
just, like, walked away after Toy Story 3, and,
like, we're done. We've done it all. Maybe they
should have, after, you know, doing, like, Cars
2. But, uh, I just... I love Toy Story 3, and
as, like, Toy Story being one of my all -time
favorite animated films... You know, you think
like, okay, you don't need to make Toy Story
2, there's no need to, and they did, and it's
good, and oh, Toy Story 3's coming, you don't
need to, and then it's fantastic. And even small
things that no one really would notice, like
they're getting the same actor to play Andy that
was Andy in the first movie, and it really means
nothing, but I think it just adds a little bit.
I think Pixar's good at that, they're just good
at it. Or even like the opening. The opening
scene of two with Buzz and then the opening scene
of the third one with Woody and how those kind
of juxtapose but also kind of doing the same
thing at the same time. Yeah. Those details are
amazing. It is. So I love Toy Story 3 and I thought
about going with something else for number one
but it was an easy choice at the end of the day.
So for me at least. That's it for the countdown
real quick just so people remember like we did
with the other ones Amanda, what's your five
through one just to remind everybody? I'm gonna
my paper Number five we've got brave number four
tangled number three Rick at Ralph number two
prison boots and number one rise of the Guardians
All right, and JD. What was your five through
one? I had the wind arises how to turn your drug
in one little story through a detail of the princess
Kaguya and how to turn your dragon Alright, and
my 5 through 1 were Toy Story 3, Wreck -It Ralph,
Frozen, Despicable Me, and the LEGO Movie. Dan?
My number 5 was the painting for the LEGO Movie
3, The Illusionist, 2, How to Train Your Dragon,
and number 1, Toy Story 3. Alright, we're not
going to be much longer. We're going to do a
real quick closing discussion. Obviously we've
kept everybody a pretty long time and we're just
going to get a quick update of what people think
of the state of animation so far for this decade
and kind of give you guys' opinions here. You
know, obviously each decade kind of comes away
as a certain identity when it comes to animated
movies. You know, obviously 90s was very heavy
into Disney. You know, you'd probably say the
2000s was all about Pixar. So what has the 2010s
been so far and what kind of... state you think
the major studios are in, which ones are on the
incline, decline, which ones are holding steady,
that type of stuff. So just a real quick reactionary
closing thought for that. But while you guys
are thinking of what you're going to say for
that, just to give you some facts for the half
decade so far, if you're looking at your Oscar
winners, you had Toy Story 3 in 2010, Rango in
2011, Brave in 2012, Frozen in 2013, and Big
Hero 6 in 2014. Just to run down your biggest
box office successes so far for the half decade
your top ten at the box office In obviously order
from the lowest to the the one that's done the
most For this last half decade how to train your
dragon one then big hero six brave Shrek forever
after Despicable me the Lego movie Monsters University
Despicable me to frozen and your biggest box
office hit of the last five years so far was
Toy Story 3 As far as kind of just the state
of animated films in general, Dan, since you
were going last and everything else, why don't
you go first on this one? What do you view so
far the identity of the 2010s? What is it coming
across as? And, you know, is one studio leading
the way? Is it just kind of this decade that's
going to be known as just a whole bunch of variety
from all different facets? And which studios
are on the rise or on the decline? I think it's
a smorgasbord of goodness at this moment in time
when it comes to animated films, and I don't
think there's necessarily one leading the way.
I think obviously we're seeing Pixar kind of
dipping down, Disney's kind of coming back up,
and DreamWorks even is having some good shows
here and there, but I think it's also becoming
a good time for independent animated films, which
was never a thing before, because if you were
going to make an animated movie, it required
manpower. required like a lot to do and now with
you know with increased technology you know you
have something like there's i didn't include
it because it's kind of three short films like
it's such a beautiful day series which are just
like these like uh six figure animated films
which are quite good and i think we'll get more
stuff like that where it's like you know independent
thinking like independent uh animated movies
that kind of go in new different directions which
is interesting similar to like science fiction
which wasn't necessarily always an independent
realm but now with the fact you can kind of do
anything today it's I think it opened the door
to a lot of really great animated stuff and it's
like Disney is just one of the major players
when there's still like a lot of people out there
kind of doing some really good things yeah I
think I would echo a lot of what you're saying
there because we have you know like you said
we do have a research from Disney but you do
have a Pixar presence in our list with Toy Story
3 obviously even though maybe not as many as
you would have had the previous decade You know,
like JD was champion with his number one. You
know, the How to Train Your Dragons from DreamWorks
are strong. But, you know, you guys got the couple
films from Studio Ghibli that are there. We obviously
have had a variety of foreign films from all
different countries. Even stuff like that we
didn't talk about, you know, Paranorman, Pirates
of Banda Misfits, you know. from the people that
did Wallace and Gromit. You know, there's a pretty
good variety and you have some other studios
that, you know, even with Despicable Me that,
you know, it's not one of, if not Disney, it's
not Pixar, but it's having some success, right?
I definitely agree with your take there that
it's coming from all different angles, which
I think is a good thing. But I also would acknowledge,
like you said, that it seems like Disney is somewhat
kind of on a resurgence. We'll see if that continues
through the rest of the decade or not. J .D.,
what do you think? I think... If Studio Ghibli,
if they leave, it's just pretty much all coming
down to Disney and Pixar for me. While I love
How to Train Your Dragon 2, and I was kind of
joking earlier about how I kind of wish I could
just group How to Train Your Dragon in with Pixar.
I wish we could do it like sports where you could
trade. Like, Pixar will trade How to Train Your
Dragon, that series, for something that's shittier.
But they feel like Pixar films to me, and they
feel like the best of what Pixar is. And I love
kind of how Disney is coming back. We talked
about that and how some of their animated films
have just been kind of rising as the cream of
the crop and what we've seen lately and. What
I've heard from inside out it just seems like
everyone is loving it So I'm hoping that Pixar
is back up to that level that we know of them
if that's the case and Disney stays where they're
at It's pretty much just down to them and that
and I'm perfectly fine with that at least for
me I personally don't really care what's coming
out of Sony animation. I don't really care what's
coming out of dream DreamWorks other than How
to Train Your Dragon. Although I will say Turbo
a few years ago did kind of surprise me. I was
expecting to fully hate that movie and I actually
quite dug it a lot, but for the most part everything
out of DreamWorks is garbage if you ask me. So
I honestly don't pay attention to any other studios
besides Disney and Pixar and Studio Ghibli and
I just kind of look for word of mouth. The animation
studio that did Song of the Sea, they've only
done like four films, but now that I've seen
Secret of Kells, which is another film I liked,
and Song of the Sea, which made my list, I'll
pay attention to them more. I don't know if they're
gonna be doing a whole lot, because I think Tom
Moore's pretty much done everything that they
have out of there, at least the bigger stuff,
so... But I'll pay attention to that and maybe
some of these other studios that are making some
of the films that Tom Dan's list that I haven't
seen if they're really good But I and I certainly
look forward to those little ones, but when you're
talking about Highwood I guess it's just isn't
Pixar. That's really all that matters to me,
honestly Like you said, there's the 2014 was
a good note to kind of go into the second half
because there was a lot of films that Yeah, it
was great visually. Yeah, I only had one film
from 2011 one for 2012 and one for 2013 all the
rest of mine were either 2010 or 2014 So I think
the decade started off strong and I think it's
a strong note heading into the second half Amanda
what do you think as far as animated films right
now in the state of animation? Despite my joking
about studio giblets I'm really not too picky
about who's making what animated film. I'm pretty
much on board if it looks decent. I want to see
it and I'll experience it. So I don't really
pay too much attention on who's doing hot and
who's doing not so hot. I just want to see a
good solid animated film. Alright, and was there
was there any films as far as honorable mentions
go that you didn't get that nobody mentioned
on their list that you kind of Considered that
you want to get a shout out to Dan. Oh, yeah,
I had a few I had the rat the rabbit sees the
rabbi's cat Paranorman, I don't think I mentioned
that also Batman the Dark Knight returns which
I kind of group those together within I think
that's like the best thing that DC animated has
done uh anything else chico and rica chico and
rita which it was nominated for for best animated
film it's a nice kind of a interesting uh really
great like jazz quarry with that as well and
that's pretty in a cat in paris which kind of
feels to me similar to like madeline in his animation
style uh which is very again another very much
a french uh film but i think there's a quite
like a lot of really uh like a unsung animated
films that I was able to kind of discover just
by researching for this list. Alright JD, I know
you had a top 20 at one point. Is there any that
we didn't mention in there? Oh, a lot of them
we mentioned. Norman was one in there. I also
had Ringo and Tangled and Big Hero 6. I also
had Adventures of Tintin. Ooh, that's a good
one. And I don't know if this is 2009 or 2010.
I've read both in other places, so depending...
on you come from and most likely in Kentucky
we would have gotten it in 2010. I just got with
it in the last few months but if it is 2010 it
would also include The Secret of Kells which
is a great one and it's not a full length feature
movie but The Paperman Shore is also one of the
best animated things we've seen out of the last
few years as well so I kind of threw that on
as an honorable mention. All right. I myself,
like I said, I was struggling just to come up
with my final two spots, so I don't have necessarily
anything I'd throw out there as an honorable
mention that has not been talked about. Amanda,
anything you just missed making your list? I
have the box trolls, the hero sticks, things
that have been talked about. And since I do play
hockey, I did put Frozen on there because, you
know, the cold never bothered me anyway. But
I think... Penguins of Madagascar, I think was
super freaking cute. Pretty funny. The voice
cast, John Malkovich. Gotta love that fucker.
So glad that he was in this. I think that it
was super funny. Even some of his little quips
when he's talking to his little henchmen. They
always bring up some actors' names, and he's
like, Drew, bury more, and bring out the laser,
and things like that. It was really cool. I liked
that. Alright, so that's our top ten animated
films of the last half decade, and our thoughts
of the state of animation in general. Obviously,
like we said, you can find JD by searching out
in -session film, and you definitely should do
that. Before we close, though, I know we've been
going forever, but the fans would not be happy
if we didn't give our results from our box office
predictions last week. And the first place, the
champion so far at our prediction game here so
far has been Amanda. And she played defense last
week and went within some people might call it
an easy choice. All she did was predict that
what? Insidious would be in the top 10. So she
predicted the risky insidious at least showing
up in the top 10. It came in at number three
so she was right on that. I was just trying to
get my first correct, so I tried to go easy and
said that Spy would be number one, and it was.
Dan, you said Aloha would drop out of the top
ten, and it came in at number nine. Yeah, it
was like a million or two away too, so... People
have just missed. So now I have company in the
cellar. Yeah, so now I have company in the cellar.
Dan's joining me. Amanda's still undefeated.
As far as predictions for... Next week, I made
Amanda choose something harder, and she's even
wanting to coin her own term for this box office
prediction game. What are you calling it? If
you've seen The Wedding Ringer, you'll know what
this is. It's going to be the golden tux of box
office predictions. So what she's doing is she's
literally running the gamut here. She is going
to predict the top five this next weekend at
the box office in order. Yes, sir. So, that is
going to be your first loss. I'm just going to
put that out there. With all the wins I've had,
I can afford one loss. Alright, so what is your
top five and what order are they in? Okay, should
we go from bottom up? Yes. Alright, number five,
we're going to come in with Entourage. Number
four, San Andreas. Number three, Spy. Number
two insidious three and number one, of course
will be Jurassic World So we will enjoy Amanda
getting her first incorrect prediction and you
can weep Knowing that I am clean of the world
and my golden tux prediction. So that's her golden
tux prediction We'll see if anybody else tries
that in the future My prediction I am obviously
it's too easy to say Jurassic World is gonna
open at number one So I'm not going with that
but what I'm going with is exactly how much it'll
make and I am going that it is going to be over
70 million in the opening weekend. I don't know
if that's a risky pick or not, but I'm going
over 70 million in the opening weekend for Jurassic
World. I have only gotten one right so far, so
don't take any, don't put anything on that. Dan,
do you have a prediction for next week? Yeah,
it's kind of a random one, because it's a movie
that has not been talked about in like a few
months, but for some reason it's an increasing
theater count for the last few weeks, and I think
it's because it's trying to do this, and I say
that. Cinderella will officially make 200 million
dollars by next week. Please tell me you're right.
Please tell me you're right. I need that Haley
Atwell. Alright, a little fantasy film league
there for you. I need that 200 million point.
Alright, so those are our predictions for next
week. We'll see how that goes. Thanks JD for
joining us. It was awesome to have you. Hopefully,
you're not in trouble for being up too late with
us. I mean, we'll obviously be back with some
more lists. We have a couple more genres to go.
We still got to do comedy, action, and drama.
And like we've said before, we're going to wrap
this whole thing up at the end of the year by
doing our top actors of the half decade, our
top actresses, and a two -parter with our top
50 overall films of the half decade. So that's
all what's coming up. Dan, did I miss anything
or are we good to go? We're good to go. Alright,
so we will see you next time. Don't forget to
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the lightning for the rest of this series. There
we go. There we go. Ending on a good note here.
I'm gonna send a Tony Jaa knee kick to the face
if they win via the internet. I'm gonna close
this out before it gets violent. You can talk
to me at Optimus Solo and obviously join us next
week for another episode of The Cinema Geeks.
She subscribes to the True Bromance world of
podcasting, so she's refilling a drink. Oh, yeah.
That's how they roll. Coke Zero cherry, so, you
know. She's drinking Orange Parade. I'm drinking
V8 Fusion. Nice. And she's the one drinking.
Yes. That's why she's got so many sequels on
her list. Yeah. Now that's a good outtake. She
didn't hear that. That's Macklin in the outfit.
It's like Dan advised me last week to take something
out and not put it in. He's like, that's the
joy of editing your own podcast. But I left it
in there. Anyway. Nothing. Don't worry about
it. It's all good. Probably also true. Yes. We
were recording the conversation. We have two
reports of it. That's true. Alright, I'm no longer
talking in between anything. No, you just stay
quiet. Alright. Black Ops 1. Yes! Suck it JD,
suck it! Three times! I'm trying to... Man...
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