Beverly Hills Cop III Review

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here. I Think I need robot parts at this point,

but I'm here Today we are continuing our Eddie

Murphy look back into the past as we head back

to 31 years ago in 1994 with Beverly Hills cop

3 which was released May 25th 1994 so it was

released on Star Wars Day quote -unquote And,

uh, yeah. So what prompted this besides the being

Eddie thing, as of this recording, the review

is out, the written review is out now, but in

January of this year, La La Land Records released

the soundtrack score to Beverly Hills Cop 3.

And we will talk about this later, but that's

what Between being Eddie, the Netflix documentary,

which you all would have heard in the previous

episode of the podcast here that heard us talk

about that between that and this score finally

getting released after 31 years, there was a

soundtrack album of 10 tracks that got released

back in the day when the film came out. It was

mostly the R and B songs, R and B songs that

had gotten released from, from the movie. not

the actual instrumentals from Mr. Nile Rogers,

who composed the music for the third film. But

yeah, between all the records releasing that

in January, the Being Eddie documentary and the

fact that we have never done a single separate

episode for the third film, which I wanted to

do last year, but. I've said before, and I'll

say it again, 2024 and 2025 have been a couple

of the most difficult years for me lately. But

yeah, so we're here at Beverly Hills Cop 3. Just

the Facts, as I already mentioned, was released

May 25th, 1994. And this movie really gets a

bad rap from pretty much everybody. And out.

One of my sticking points on it is that somebody

said that it doesn't have high enough stakes

compared to the first two films. In the first

film, Axel's friend gets murdered and he has

to go out to Beverly Hills to avenge him in the

second film Captain Boga Mel who is also Axel's

friend gets murdered and he has to go out to

Beverly Hills to avenge him and in this third

film. Chief Inspector or Captain or whatever

Inspector Todd gets murdered, but then the focus

turns to Uncle Dave. And my first thought is

when I read this in the Wikipedia article, I'm

like, are you kidding me? Okay, yes, technically

Axel out there having to save Uncle Dave is part

of the plot, but Axel Foley's motives for going

after Ellis DeWald Look at that scene when he

goes to the policeman's ball and everyone's clapping

and then all of a sudden he starts doing it.

Ellis DeWalt, Ellis DeWalt. He starts doing the,

the over -exaggerated clapping and he goes up

to him and their arm and arm and he, and he whispers

to him and Ellis whispers back to him. And I'm

going to say the line folks, if you're, I'm sorry,

if you're proclivities. don't like this, but

it's the line that's in the movie. Ellis says

arm and arm as they're kind of basically, you

know, head locking each other. Like that's Axel's

main pro not programming. That's his main thing

for going after Ellis DeWald is getting revenge

or getting justice for, for inspector Todd. Yes,

it's a bonus having to save uncle Dave. But I've

never looked at this movie thinking that the

whole motive for Axel is to just save uncle Dave.

I've, and the way that they explained it in the

Wikipedia article, I'm like, cause they say in

the Wikipedia article that the third film doesn't

have a more villainous villain than the first

two did. And I'm sitting here thinking, okay,

yeah, kind of Ellis isn't as villainous as Max

was or as, uh, Bridget as, um, um, you know,

the, the tall blonde was in the second one. Cause

Max was the gun runner, uh, who ran the guns

with Themopolis in the second one. And then you

had, um, Victor Maitland in the first one, but

I mean, I don't know. Point is, this movie gets

a really bad rap and I think some people misunderstood

some of the motives as to why Axel is going after

Ellis DeWald. I still... 31 years later, I was

14 when this movie came out. I still love this

movie. It's not... I don't... Up until we got

the fourth movie when we only had the trilogy.

This is my least favorite of the three. If I

was going to rank them, it would be two, one,

three for me. Cause Beverly Hills cop two is

my favorite of the three, but this is not a bad

movie at all. No in it's funny cuz i was reading

the like i always enjoyed it i just i don't know

i don't know why i enjoyed this one more than.

Per se like i like the first one the second one.

I remember enough about it but at the same time

i forget a lot about it if it makes any sense.

Like i remember the end but like the beginning

i'm kinda like a lot of it it's very fuzzy for

me until i get towards the end. And then i remember

more about this film probably because i grew

up with it and it just sticks better. And then

of course like the fourth movie is just great

all the way around. Yeah so i wouldn't say it's

wholly unsatisfying i think it's just i think

they were expecting something different than

what it was yeah i mean to be quite honest like

even when we were doing the die hard movies i

think that when they start getting to the three

cool i think that's usually the time to stop

anyway. But it wasn't a bad movie like I would

rather watch this Then quite a few other Sequels

during the 90s Yeah, and see that's the thing

like and I love any Murphy stuff like I I can

watch diehard diehard 2 I I would rather not

watch like I'd watch 1 3 4 and then if I had

to I'd watch the second one And then the fifth

one. What is the fifth one? It doesn't. It doesn't

exist. Yeah, the fifth one is not in continuity.

Exactly. Yeah, I had to pull that one out of

out of the the mothballs. But but no, I mean,

like Beverly Hills Cop one, two and three. I

genuinely enjoyed. And then I enjoy the fourth

one. Yeah. I find it funny that all of the top

critics like it got. I'd rotten tomatoes again

11 % on the tomato meter like completely rotten

and then 35 % for the popcorn meter for the you

know, the fans and on on letterbox It got out

of the the thousands that have watched it. It

got a lot of two stars or three and a half Yeah,

and I think and I get it like if it's not your

cup of tea like you're gonna Bash it. I mean

we do it all the time. Yeah, but I don't think

it deserves like two or an 11 % Like no, you

know, I'd probably put it You know six out of

ten Yeah, you know three three and a half out

of five like nothing nothing to write home about

but it's not it's not terrible either like in

India, I know that they changed and got Hector

Elizondo, you know Yeah, so Taggart did not come

back John Ashton did not come back for the third

movie They got Hector Elizondo to play John Flint

or whatever his name was and Yeah, it wasn't

wasn't bad. It was enjoyable and I like the actor

You know, yeah, it's not Taggart and it was better

having him in the fourth one. Yeah, you know,

but this wasn't I mean it This is really the

last time we get you know Judge Reinhold to in

an actual Real capacity like the fourth one.

He's just kind of there. Yeah, he's there. I

mean he doesn't really Know it's funny because

they have the critics of like Detroit Free Press.

They give it, you know two out of four Then they

had somebody from Chicago Tribune one out of

four Yeah, player magazine one out of five A

movie mania site two out of five. Yeah It's just

it just kind of goes Yeah, somebody else put

the post New Zealand puts one of the worst action

movies of the 90s like come on man. That's not

bad No, okay. So no, okay. I can have been like

Mortal Kombat or something Yeah but even real

combat is good for what it is for for the cheat

and we're gonna get to that we're gonna i'm gonna

end up i don't know if it's gonna be if you want

to be honored or whoever wants to i'm probably

gonna do a 30th 30th anniversary of moral combat

episode i'm gonna make room in the schedule for

that but anyway the point is is that. Beverly

Hills cop three, one of the worst action movies

of the nineties. Are you kidding me? If you're

basing that on the story, maybe the story's a

little flimsy, but it really isn't. It's basically.

You start out with Axel and his other like he's.

A detective or he, whatever rank he is, let's

just say he's a high ranking detective in the

Detroit police department. Cause I don't know

what his actual, they didn't specifically say

like, we know he's not a lieutenant. We know

he's not a sergeant. They didn't say they just

said detective, whatever. And then he's got all

these other guys around him and they're going

over these plans or whatever. He's like, all

right, y 'all know this shit. Y 'all got this

shit. Let's go get this shit done. And then lieutenant,

uh, uh, inspector Todd shows up and he's like,

I'm just here to observe and I'm just here to

do this, this, and this, and they all go in and

they all break up the Supremes and all the, the

old fat white guys in the chop shop with a couple

of the guys and dancing and singing and blah,

blah, blah. And then Ellis DeWald and his guys

come in there and basically take over the place

and they didn't realize, oh my God, this chop

shop. They have machine guns, yada, yada, yada,

yada, yada. Todd gets killed by Ellis DeWald

and that scene has haunted me for 31 years. That

is some of Eddie Murphy's best acting is that

shock face. When you see this, it's one of the

cold, I don't know how anyone says that this

is a bad movie. The scene where. Ellis pulls

up in the car shoots Todd like when he looked

that when it's framed through the car window

and he's pointing the gun. Shoots Todd again

and you see Eddie's face opposite and he just

drops his gun he's like boss no or whatever whatever

it is that his line is I forget what the line

is but you just should see his face just shock.

Look it's. Overall out of the three, cause I'm

not counting this against the fourth yet because

whatever, but when we had it just as the trilogy,

is it the best out of the three? No, but it's

not a bad movie on it. Honestly, this could have

been any other 90s action cop film. It didn't

have to be Beverly Hills cop three. I'm glad

it is Beverly Hills cop three, but Looking at

the way this plot is set up. It's set up to just

say, Hey, we're going to drop you into the life

and times of Axel Foley. And this is where he

is now. And this actually takes place. I love

how they did this. It takes place seven years

after the events of the second film, quite literally

the math on that 1987 plus seven is 94. I love

it when they. I love when they do the timeline

of mathing the years in real time, real life

years, 87 to 94. I love when movies do that.

I don't know. I don't know how many movies actually

do that, do that anymore, but I love when that

shit happens. So. Yeah. Does this movie have

a couple of issues? Yeah. It's mostly inside

wonder world. I. those wonder world scenes some

of them i wanted to bring this up with you because

i'm an only child and i don't have siblings you

do the scene where where axel has to dress up

as okey and you got the two older you got the

one younger brother and the one older brother

And it's right between the two ages of the younger

brother wanting to see the, the character do

the dance above. And the older brother, that's

not how the dance is supposed to be done. This

is how it's supposed to be done. You dump it.

And the older brother kicks him or hits him or

hit, you know, hits the, the, the character,

which you're not supposed to do. Did you guys

ever do it? Please tell me you did not ever do

that. If you guys ever went to like Disney or

stuff like that. We. I didn't go to Disney until

I was a grown man. My brothers and I, we never

went to any of these kind of things. We went

to Universal Studios during the time they had

the Marvel stuff, way back when. I don't remember

enough of any of that, but we were always polite.

We weren't little dirtbags. Yeah, I think one

of the reasons why I'm so glad we have the soundtrack

now from all and records is because And this

is just me being the soundtrack music nerd that

I am the axle Saves the kids which is the spider

scene where he has to jump on the spider to save

the kids that music I have Ha did that music

outside and now we have it as one of the tracks

on the skull man Just listen that is one of my

favorite tracks off of this thing. It's so cool

hearing that and Yeah, I there's They combined

so many things in this movie that are cool you

look at Wonderworld and yeah a wonder world and

uncle Dave it's supposed to be an amalgamation

of Disney World and Walt Disney and whatever.

It's supposed to be a spoof off of that or something

or whatever. And it kind of is. But I mean, the

whole time I'm watching the end of this movie

and they're going through the dinosaur land part

of it, I'm like, way to go guys. You're a year

removed from Jurassic Park and I feel nothing

but Jurassic Park vibes off of the end of this

movie. But no, no I could I don't think I could

watch Beverly Hills cop three very often but

I could watch this every couple of years and

it's I don't know watching it again just It just

helped me escape it just it was just a nice little,

hey, this is what the start of. Technically,

it wasn't the start of because two years before

this in 92, Eddie did the Distinguished Gentleman,

but it was the start of the 90s comedies for

Eddie because after this, he would have Nutty

Professor and all of that and everything else.

Yeah, I mean. after the reveal of Axl Fox at

the end of this movie and What I love about all

of these movies and I don't remember because

I'm right Right now because I almost forgot to

finish doing it But right now like right won't

right won't we connected to do the recording

for this? As you connected I'm in the middle

of the bad helicopter scene in the fourth film

where but no literally I say bad helicopter because

that's the name of the music track from Lauren

Balfe on the soundtrack for Axel F. It's the

helicopter scene where Bobby and Axel escape

the police, uh, the police station from Grant

in the fourth film. So when you connected, I

was like, yeah, it's a bad helicopter. You're

like, what? Like I'm watching the fourth movie.

So what, but my point in bringing that up is.

from what I remember, all, all four movies at

the end of every movie, he always has a look

back at the camera. Like, I don't remember what

it is in the first one. I have to go back and

watch the first one again, but at the end of

the second one, it's, uh, he's in the car. He

looks back and he's like, trust me. At the end

of the third one, he's in the wheelchair because

Janice is pushing him in the wheelchair. He doesn't

say, trust me, but he just kind of looks back

and I got to watch the fourth one. But I love

that. I love that signature of that. It's just

so good. Yeah. Yeah. Beverly Hills cop three.

It's funny because one of the critics even says

the movie isn't nearly as fresh as the first

cop flick was. But they they actually preferred

this over the second film like saying, you know,

I must admit It's a whole lot more enjoyable

than the contemptible crash -a -thon known as

Beverly Hills cop 2 And gave it a 3 out of 5

like and I'm like, okay. I mean I can see that

see Okay, well, let's just you have anything

else you want to say about the movie itself No,

I mean, I think it's a lot of fun and it's kind

of cool that it's in a theme park Yeah, yeah,

it is very cool. It is very fun. It's kind of

like. Okay, people are going to kill me for saying

this, but I don't mean to say this to say that

it's bad, but Beverly Hills cop one and two are

kind of like Batman and Batman returns. Beverly

Hills cop two is not like Batman returns in the

sense of you penguin flippers and all that gross

stuff, but they're darker. Whereas Beverly Hills

cop three is kind of like a combination of the

brighter, the brightness of Batman forever and

Batman and Robin. It's supposed to be the comedy.

Cause again, it was 1994. We weren't doing super

dark, at least not to my knowledge, at least

not to my memory. Uh, super dark gritty. You

know, cop stuff then, because I don't remember

too much of that. But yeah, so again, it was

an evolution of the franchise and of the character.

No! Axel, get on a coffee break. Go get that

son of a bitch. Cop two is so ingrained in me.

I have seen it so many times and it is the one

I go back to all of that. Cop two is a moot.

Like if you ever told me, look, Mike, get in

this helicopter. We're going to give you this

parachute. You're going to jump out over this

Island and you're going to be stuck on a desert

Island with your phone. And the only movie you

have on your phone is Beverly Hills cop two.

And that's the only movie you can watch for the

rest of your life. Okay. Fine. Like that's the

movie I could watch for the rest of my life.

And I would be perfectly fine because I love

that movie. And I'm not going to give this a

bad rating on our scale at all. I just, I don't

want to sit here like, and tell people that yeah,

I can't. I think we need to, and this is more

a conversation off air than it is on air, but

I think we need to rewrite some of these descriptions

for these ratings. I like the ratings themselves,

but some, just some of the way the wording is

on some of the descriptions, I think we need

to rewrite these because I would be perfectly

fine giving this a 3 .5, which is good. But good

is described as it's a mixed bag, but the good

stuff outweighs the bad, which I can see that

with this. Yeah. But even though like I've watched

this twice in the past week and a half, because

my brain is mush and I need to make sure I can

remember this stuff so we can record about it.

So, and I'm not complaining about having to watch

it twice. I'm just stating a fact that I watched

it twice and I enjoyed it both times. And I like

for me to have a uncomfortable moment in a movie.

to want to rate it lower. Like for me to sit

here and give something, just give it a four.

I know that it had fun and it's got some issues,

but doesn't ruin your experience. Yeah. I know.

Then give it a four. Yeah, I know. Yeah. It's,

it's going to get a four. Cause that's how I

feel about it. Like I would give it a four. I

wouldn't give it, you know, a five or a 4 .5.

Because then, you know, we're missing Taggart.

We're you know, there's a couple of moment things.

But yeah, overall, like the film fits. It's enjoyable.

And I saw comments by, you know, reviewers that

they're like, you could throw it in the 90s and

put anybody in there and make it an action movie

and not be Beverly Hills cop. And I'm like, OK,

well, same could be said for any of the Die Hard

films. Mm hmm. So I mean, it's because Die Hard

was specifically not written for John McClain.

They shoehorn him in. There's worse films that

I would not go back to, and the majority of the

late 80s, early 90s stuff to mid 90s stuff, it's

all perfectly re -enjoyable for rewatch. Even

though they're old, they don't look dated, they

don't look forced, they're fun. It's not like

trying to revisit something. you know, 20, 25

years later, like Dumb and Dumber and doing another

sequel or, you know, we're just like, Oh, this

is terrible. Like this doesn't even like Beverly

Hills cop for, you know, Eddie Murphy was very

like, I'm not doing this unless it's good. Yeah,

exactly. Well, and that brings up a good point

where nobody sets out to make something bad.

Why would you set yourself up for failure? Why

would you? Sit there and say, I want to make

a bad movie. I want to make a bad podcast. I

want to do this. I want now it's a, it's a whole

different thing. If you want to sit there and

say, I want to make a podcast reviewing movies

that are bad. That's different. That's subjective.

That's whatever, but no one's going to ever sit

there and say that they want to sit there and

make something that is bad. About anything. So,

but yeah, uh, yeah four for four for Beverly

Hills cop three Overall the entire franchise

for me I think one and three are are four out

of five and then for me personally Two and five

two and four Beverly Hills cop two and four are

fives For me personally because I love both those

films Like I can't get enough of Beverly Hills

cop two and four So I like the evens a lot and

I like the odds a little so I can see that Yep,

yep. Yep. All right folks the one thing that

I will ask Now is would we recommend this film

to people? Yes, I would recommend people give

that try to give this a rewatch I would say Honestly,

I would say rewatch the first three I would rewatch

the entire franchise Because literally as soon

as I finished watching that the third movie on

the second Read when I watched this in order

to prepare for the podcast Like I said earlier

in the show the very next thing I did was go

to Netflix and start watching axle F the fourth

film Which is why I'm in the middle of it right

now So yes, I would say give Beverly Hills cop

three another shot The are you itching to watch

the next film now? What I'm itching to watch

now is if they ever do a fifth. I don't think

they need to The ending to four was perfectly

fine But if they ever did another one I'll be

there Anything else you'd like to say anything

you want to promote? No, I mean, I think this

series is great as is, doesn't necessarily need

another one, but it was nice to have a fourth

one after so many years. As for myself, just

kind of working on different stuff with the website.

Very cool, very cool. All right, folks, that's

going to do it for us. Coming up next, we have

got, finally, these were recorded months and

months and months ago, but we have... Four, five,

six, how many? Math, math is bad. Episode 155

to 159 will be episodes of 12 months of Star

Wars. David Draper and I, as I said, we recorded

these months ago. We did, well, since holidays

are coming up, we reviewed a disturbance in the

forest, which is all about the holiday special.

And then we reviewed, uh, and or season two.

So we've got, uh, four parts for and or season

two. So we did that and then hopefully I can

get my buddy Sean back on for the 25th anniversary

for gone in 60 seconds. And then, uh, Steve and

I will be back for 48 hours and another 48 hours.

And after that, I don't know. So that's what

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okay? I'm fine. I wonder what time the park opens.