All Things Transformers
Top 10 Favorite Transformers Episodes Countdown

About this Episode
You are listening to All Things Transformers.
Maximals, maximize! Happy sixth anniversary,
Steve, because today is August 9th, 2014. Six
years ago, you created All Things Transformers.
What are you gonna do now? I'm gonna go to Disney
World! So yes, it has been six years to the day
since Steve created All Things Transformers.
Do you have any brief thoughts on this six -year
journey before we get into the first countdown
of the final episodes of the podcast? I'm kind
of... It's kind of bittersweet at this point.
I'm glad to see it wind down, but I'm also not
at the same time because it was my first. solo
podcast mm -hmm, so it's It's I it I think it's
it's served its purpose and it's it's been fun
and Who knows what will happen in the future
Exactly because seeds of the future lie buried
in the past sometimes and Good. Now all I can
hear is your Megatron voice saying a completely
different line to the ending of that. The seeds
of the future lie buried in her ass. And with
that, here is episode 44 of All Things Transformers.
You're listening to All Things Transformers,
version 2 .0. Welcome to All Things Transformers,
episode 44. I'm your host, Steve, Megatron Phillips,
and joining me in this adventure into Transformers
topless is... Tanfjorn Mike. And Pecan Court
Michael. Hey, how's it going? It's going. Did
you say topless? Yes, topless. Yes, that's what
he said. topless robots right there. I am down
for that. Yes, we took Blackarachnia and Elita
1 and RC into Rattrap's favorite place. His club.
It's not the amusement park, kiddo. Yeah, no,
not at all. Hey, they don't call it the sky coaster
for nothing. Does it go a mile high? Yes, there
is a mile high club on Cybertron. It's a mile
high coaster. You know how they achieve that,
don't you? They ride a jet. Look, I'm standing
on a jet. Look at your man, now back to me. Look
at your man, now back to me. Oh god, I just watched
that commercial the other day. What was Megatron
on Starscream? Yes, it's a good commercial the
old spice. Yeah funny So So this episode of all
things transformers where we're done with the
series we're done with the movies thank God Originally
this these next Four episodes five episodes were
gonna be something different and then I'm like
hmm. What's gonna be interesting? For everybody
to hear the final episodes of all things transformers.
I'm like, ooh, we can do top lists of various
things top and not top less top lists So we've
got five countdowns that we're going to be doing.
And the first one is our personal top 10, each
of our's favorite Transformers episodes from
all generations. So you could pick anything.
In my case, I picked anything except the Unicron
trilogy or the stuff that was done in Japan.
What about you Steve? How did you go about making
your list? If it was an episode I could watch
more than one time Okay, and and enjoy it every
time I watch it. Mm -hmm, then it's on my list
Interesting what about you Michael? How'd you
go about making yours? I basically You know thought
about my childhood memories and what comes to
the fore when I think about Transformers. So
it's a lot of G1. And then it's a lot of animated
stuff, to be honest, because those are my two
favorite continuities. Interesting. For me, I
have most of my favorite episodes from any of
the cartoons that are based here in the U .S.
in my head already. So I just wrote down 10 to
1. And I wrote, I'm like, hmm, okay, what do
I like from Beast Wars? Okay, I like this, this,
this, and this. What do I like from G1? Okay,
there's this one and then there's this one. There's
just way too many G1 episodes to pick from. I
mean, we could do a whole separate countdown
of just G1 episodes. We're not going to. Not
yet, anyway. Just the top 20 of G1 episodes.
Yeah. Each season had like 60 or something ridiculous
like that. First season had 16 second season
had somewhere around 60 third season Might have
been 13 and the non -existent fourth season had
rebirth Which surprisingly is not on my list
That's surprisingly that's that's how I went
about doing my list I Think we're going to give
you guys a sample of some Transformers episode
quotes and we're going to come back and start
the countdown after this. One shall stand, one
shall fall. One shall stand and one shall fall.
I love you. Shut up, bitch. I'm not done. No,
not fair. Why is the needle ending our own business
when BANG! Oh, this whore's spacious part of
it is dirty. No, don't ruin it for me. Yo, string
butt! Got a pair of belly bombs here with your
name right on them. Eat them and weep. I, uh...
I come in peace. You're about to leave in pieces.
No need for violence, Rhinox. I merely wish to
talk. Go ahead. It's a free planet. I'm busy.
Stubborn Maximal fool! He'll soon regret this
impertinence. Alright, let the countdown begin,
but before we do that, we have to talk about
some honorable mentions. Michael, any honorable
mentions you actually remember? You know, I culled
the list pretty finally, but two that immediately
came back to my mind. The first was a G1 episode,
The Secret of Omega Supreme, which we remember
because it's like the only Omega Supreme episode
that just features him. It's special for me because
when I was little I had the Omega Supreme toy
Mm -hmm, so I really like this one and secondly
under Beast Wars possession which brought back
Starscream's ghost Hmm Interesting what about
you Steve? What about Starscream's toast? It
always lands butter side down yep Yeah, that's
messy that's what she said She like it like that
no um you miss that you miss out an opportunity
or that totally should have been Chris Lada Yeah,
I can't do it. I can't do it. I don't have it
in me right now Chris Lada. That's what she said
would have been awesome. That's what she said
See I can't do it all the way tonight, but thank
you Gollum with my process. He can do Gollum
at 11 o 'clock at night, but he can't do Starscream.
It's because Starscream's register is a lot higher.
It's a throat ripper, I'm sorry. Yeah. Should
have gargled with saltwater before. Well, unless
I win. Look my build, Baroness! There you go.
I would have settled for Cobra Commander. That's
what she said, Baroness! Yeah. Good lord. Steve,
any honorable mentions? Yeah, I have... I actually
have a few. My list consists of... Why does the
document disappear? I can't help it. Beast Machines,
the reformatting, because I had to whittle down
on other episodes trying to encompass most of
the American... end of it. I got rid of Beast
Wars the agenda part three only because I have
some other ones I like more that are in Beast
Wars. TFG1 I have Starscream's Ghost. Technically
this is considered not an episode but it's a
continuation of the show and that's Predacons
Rising. Yeah, the movie. Okay, so I don't have
it on there only because it's not technically
an episode that would be like including Transformers
the movie in there and saying it's better than
everything else Yeah, well, I mean yes, you're
right Predacons Rising was the you know, the
finale movie, but Stephen Melching did tell us
that Originally, it was going to be three more
episodes of the show But yeah, you're right for
me Honorable mentions. Ghost in the Machine from
G1. I love Cyclonus at the end of that, but ghosts
can't tumble through space. War Dawn, because
we see Optimus's origin story as Orion Pax. and
when we interviewed David Wise oh so long ago
he told us that there was an extended scene to
that that no one ever knew about that it was
here initially when Megatron and Optimus met
Megatron ripped his arm off I find now 30 years
later that I really love the key to Vector Sigma
two -parter because it shows us that it shows
us that Yakko Rob Paulson is slingshot, one of
the aerial bots. The other one is I love the
Ultimate Doom three -parter when they bring Cybertron
to Earth. And my number one honorable mention
is, can anybody guess? The entire TFG -1 podcast?
No, that all sucked. Present company excluded
My number one favorite honorable mention episode
Only because it's been a running joke since the
show started since the episode of that that Since
the podcast episode of that cartoon was reviewed
say it with me now go blow your load Because
we all go back to the low road I don't know,
I'm not someone normally that finds dick and
fart jokes funny. They are funny every now and
then, but I'm sorry, Rhinox is a giant robot
rhinoceros, sneezing and farting all over the
base, that is hilarious to me. And this is coming
from the same guy that hates Ren and Stimpy.
Yeah, pretty much and I like it and I like it.
I didn't stupid. Yeah, don't get it It's not
because of the content it's not because of Whatever
story they're trying to tell that week. It's
because of the animation and it's so gross. Yeah,
it is Yeah, it's funny. That's the only reason
why it has nothing to do with the actual content
It has to do with the display of the content
my ice cream I love that show Alright, so number
10 Michael. What is your number 10? Oh crime
any we had to number them My mine are not really
number, you know, mine are just an order of air
date So I don't I mean I didn't realize I actually
had to put forth the effort To order them. So
I'm I'm going to stick with my chronology here
and I'll say that my number 10 is animated and
the game episode 41 and 42 because it's just
chock full of awesome yes yes it is what about
you Steve number 10 yes Transformers animated
Predacons rising Even though Megatron wasn't
even in that episode. Briefly. My number 10 is
the three -parter from G1, started at all more
than meets the eye. This is... As your 10? Yep.
No, keep in mind. These are favorite. These are
not best. These are favorite episodes These are
not best episode. You know, it's funny though
is because I've got that as my number one, but
This is chronological, right? Yeah All the Facebook
messages that had that I had sent you guys said
The actual listing says transformers countdown
number one top ten favorite Episodes all generations
and we read I have my time Really not anything
about order. He just said so more than meets
the eye three -parter Obviously, it's the beginning
of everything for the cartoons I love the space
chase I Love how silly optimus prime Peter Cullen
sounds when he's like we come from Cybertron.
It's in the sky It was an amazing setup for the
entire series of G1 for the opening three -parter
Okay, Michael number nine Number nine and we're
still dealing with animated because again, we're
going backwards in time It's a bridge too close
episode 28 and 29 Where they introduced the Starscream
clones? and the fact that Sari is actually a
Cybertronian. Or at that point, Sari's a robot.
They didn't come out and say she was a Cybertronian
yet. Right, right. Say they were sorry yet on
air. Yeah, that episode was awesome because they
worked in so many cool things with the clones
because each clone... is a personality of Starscream,
but it's also a repaint, not a repaint, but,
well, it's a repaint of Starscream into the other
jets, so they were able to actually work in the
Skywarp, the Thundercracker, the Ram, you know,
all that stuff. Yeah, they're all in there. Yeah,
they're all in there, plus a new character as
well. You know what's weird, and I'm not sure
which came first, but today I was watching Teen
Titans episodes. with my boys and We watched
just this morning watch the episode where Raven
they they they accidentally get sucked in the
Ravens mind and they meet all the different Raven
colors It immediately reminded me of the Starscream
clones Yeah, I love it in that in that episode
after he creates them So which part of my which
part of my personality did you come from you
don't want to know? This is going to be a long
orbital cycle. Steve, nine. Transformers Prime.
Deadlock. Really, at number nine? Interesting.
What was that about? Deadlock was the finale.
The one where Megatron proceeded to give the
smackdown and Ratchet was basically the Rhinox
of the episode and then Bumblebee was like the
cheater or kind of saving the day more or less
and Saving well, actually I would I would equate
him more to being the hot rod Yeah to the optimus
prime Mm -hmm So see now Notice that since I'm
going in reverse chronological order. There's
I didn't start with any prime episodes Yeah,
cuz you hate prime I don't necessarily hate prime
but I don't have any that are my favorite if
it were a top 20 Maybe I would have thrown a
prime in there, but they're they're just weren't
I mean of the top ten that I remember more vividly
that come to my mind immediately None of them
came from Transformers prime Wow My number nine
is from Transformers prime It's an episode entitled
minus one from season three This was the episode
Where they got the vocoder back and soundwave
actually spoke I friggin loved that Because it's
an episode where the Autobots minus one is after
optimus gets his new body We can tell how interesting
Michael is because of the judicious use of mute
while yawning. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I hit
mute. You can edit that out, I'm sorry. You should
have heard me earlier. I took a big drink of
water and I was like, bleh, belching so loud.
I scared the cat. Okay, so... Yes, you usually
are. Minus one is an episode that... has optimists
and the autobots the upper hand on on the septicons
because they've captured sound wave and capturing
sound wave is just an interesting thing for these
autobots is they don't know what the hell to
do with this guy hasn't talked for almost sixty
five episodes now and it's basically all exposition
between also exposition it's all you know back
and forth between the autobots and you know Then
they start threatening him and you know Everything
else and then he starts erasing data and ratchets
late and bulkheads like I think this is the only
time in prime that bulkhead was a little a little
more of the Animated bulkhead personality than
actually primed bulkhead because he's like he's
like oh cool. He's downloading data. That's just
like no He's a racing data and as soon as soundwave
erased all his data a giant smiley face Appeared
on his little no faceplate eye visor thingy and
he says the infamous line from the movie it wasn't
it was altered it was that's what i said it was
altered but you know soundwave superior autobots
inferior as soon as i heard the vocoder i was
like yes thank god uh so yeah number nine for
me is minus one michael what is your number eight
uh animated garbage in garbage out with Weird
Al Yankovic, episode 17. You wouldn't dare to
be that stupid. I am Rick R. I dare to be stupid.
I dare to be stupid. It's just that episode just
makes me happy. I just really like I think that
was the first time I'd ever heard Weird Al voice
a character. And it was just perfect. And it
was Just such a great character and there's a
lot of other animated episodes that I really
enjoyed But that one, you know, just makes me
giggle thinking about it Absolutely Yeah garbage
in garbage out. I love the part of that scene
at the end where he's like you got to slow them
out down Okay, you made it speed up and you can
see it jumping out of the water. I love that
Steve number eight Ghost in the Machine. Because
I love the fact that Starscream possesses cyclonus,
scourge, has to basically give Unicron back stolen
parts so that he can get a new body before he
gets ejected into space and time. That was one
of my honorable mentions that I forgot. It was
the eyeball eyeball who has the eyeball episode.
Well, I just love the fact that Unicron restores
him and then it is like too stupid to notice
that there's Treachery among and Starscream is
like, do it yourself. And throws the and throws
the the the wire down like a big F you and then
and then, you know, starts tormenting Galvatron
and Galvatron's like, everybody, fire. Absolutely.
Yeah, the funniest thing about Ghost in the Machine
is, is once Starscream possesses Cyclonus' body,
Cyclonus' face animation changes completely.
He all of a sudden has a little... It's not even
a goatee, it's like a stretch of black facial
hair on his face and his chin is... It was so
weird because every time... Starscream possessed
anyone else their faces never changed I chalked
up to bad animation like that would series Yeah,
no, I know I know that yeah, but especially when
it hits season 4 Well Three episodes and then
this yeah anyway number eight for me is from
animated It is endgame two -parter Wanted more
out of this Like that last 59 seconds of part
two. It's like ah Give me more. This can't be
the end of this series But endgame was amazing.
It ended so well. It did. Yeah It did that was
very much. I was gonna say that was my number
10. Yeah Actually, the game was a two -parter.
So 41 and 42 Yeah, but there were so many cool
scenes there it was like you know my name is
optimus prime i just yeah it was awesome yeah
good good series closer number seven michael
uh beast wars the agenda episode 37 through 39
it was a three -parter yep yeah a lot of goodness
there We got to revisit G1 an awful lot. And
I think that's kind of what kind of kindled my
real interest in Beast Wars because it was like,
eh, not really into this whole new animal thing.
And then, oh, wait, there's G1. So you get a
little autobotly taste. Exactly. Yeah, good stuff.
Absolutely. Yeah, the agenda was amazing for
several reasons. Number one, the Decepticons
Forever line and the fact that Ravage still transformed
into a tape. Number two, I believe it was the
agenda when Rattrap got his way into the ship
and threw the belly bombs at Tarantulas. I thought
that was great. What about you for number seven,
Steve? The return of Optimus Prime. Two -part.
Because we get to see the true leader return.
And I love the fact that he got the special medal
that there just happened to be just enough to
cover Optimus Prime and Optimus Prime alone.
And Galvatron happened to have some of it. Yeah.
Galvatron actually had to lead them through half
of that episode. Well, and the funny thing is
he had it for no apparently good reason. Yeah,
that's true. And he had to more or less become
an Autobot for the episode because everybody
else was against him too. Yep. Alright, number
seven for me is Deadlock because Eric Matthews
actually did something correct. Hm? Eric Matthews,
Will Freedell, voices Bumblebee, and Bumblebee
basically gutted the hell out of Megatron right
in the Decepticon symbol, baby. No, Deadlock
was by far one of the best series finales for
a Transformers cartoon. It wrapped everything
up really nicely, even though Predacons Rising
would wrap it up even more and kinda... Push
it towards the new series that's coming up next
year. Deadlock was a very, very good finisher
for the actual cartoon series. So number six,
Michael. Number six for me would be Beast Wars.
The Beast Wars episode one and two. That's when
they actually introduced the characters for the
new show. And again, if it was a gender that
got me in. It was it was the the season opener
that the series opener that Really kind of like
wow. Well, this is cool. You know, I can I can
relate to these characters. I kind of dig it
Absolutely, did you dig it with a shovel? Yeah
Stop can't you can't you just lend us a shovel?
Alright Steve number six number six is This one's
tough because I like all of these on a major
plane It's hard to pick one it's like you're
choosing from my babies I think I'll say possession.
Because you have a Arnold moment with Optimus
Primal, where he gets the sunglasses. You have
the Maximals faking out Starscream, who's apparently
too stupid to figure it out. You have Megatron.
Trying to see we're more or less to feel it out
and see where it was gonna go You have poor waspinator
getting used And abuse and Megatron sitting there
like smacking his head back onto his torso afterward
at the very end And black or acne is like playing
with his His pride more or less Yeah, get a big
anvil of his pride Yeah, and he likes it I Do
love it every time she calls him grape face.
I don't know why but I do love what she calls
him that She quit calling me that If I could
do a raspy Jim Burns, I would so say Unvernal's
Line. Yes, my queen! And this is where you're
supposed to reply to yourself, Megatron. I do
wish he'd quit calling me that. Number six for
me... Shut up! Number six for me is the Nemesis
two -parter from Beast Wars. I love this episode.
I think it's really interesting. If you look
at Beast Wars 1 and 2 and see where the Ark landed
and see where the Nemesis landed, we finally
get to see where the Nemesis landed in Nemesis
Part 2, in the Nemesis 2 part. The fact that
Tarantulas, they didn't really make too much
of a mention out of this. Outside of agenda though.
They said that he was lieutenant tarantulas of
the Predacon secret police That's the only time
they mentioned that and then Megatron in nemesis
says Oh, well, maybe tarantulas left a legacy
that that I can yet utilize and I'm like, okay,
but the dude basically betrayed you I know you're
trying to find the ultimate weapon here, but
It beast wars nemesis to broader actually made
the nemesis cool because in G1 we saw it for
five and a half seconds maybe less before it
crashed and then it was just an underwater base
the rest of the series. Well the thing you gotta
remember too is Tarantulas worked for the Decepticon
Predacon Council and that he was a part of the
secret police and he was a scientist also so
You kind of mix all those little pots together
he was running his own agenda and going to eventually
either a escape with the art or with the nemesis
or You know return it back to its rightful owners
or whatnot Because he didn't care if he screwed
the timeline. Oh No, he didn't care. He said
he had different origins, which means he's got
to be something tied to like Unicron in some
degree The only explanation because he doesn't
have any maximal Predacon. Let's use the Decepticon.
It's an interesting thought You said it All right
number five Michael Starscreams Brigade, it's
a g1 episode episode 62 I'm starting off here
in season 2 because nothing in season 3 jumped
out at me I mean, yeah, Optimus Prime comes back
to life, but, you know, I can't count on one
hand anymore how many times that's happened.
I figured you would have at least given the Zombie
Prime episode, Dark Awakening, a mention, since
you love zombies so much. It's a fun genre, but
I really didn't like that episode. Honestly,
once you start introducing quinazans into the
mix, my eyes start glazing over, and it's like,
uh... Spare me this mockery of justice Steve
number five my number five The low road no I
refuse you can't make me try me I'm coming to
the fuse ors because I liked the kind of odd
western feel that they spun on the episodes and
the unique method of bringing Optimus Primal
back by using a stasis pod that was a blank and
calling his spark back from the Matrix which
Rhinox was like basically internet surfing on
Pirate Bay and pulling Optimus Primal back. Like,
I'm going to download a copy of Optimus Primal
from the net. And then he's like, well, we're
only on 56k, so it's going to take some time.
And he dumps them back in there, and then Primal's
like, look, who's Prime? And goes out there and
stomps ass. Like blue surf and optimus primal.
I don't know about his robot mode though, but
I do like the blue ape I thought that was really
cool Yeah, I was never a fan of the blue ape
basically because I didn't like the toy It was
not a fan of the toy did not like the figure
My number five is from transformers prime it
is from season 3 chain of command Haven't they
done that one already? No. Beast Wars. Okay,
it's the same episode title, but it's a completely
different thing. I know. Chain of Command is
an episode written by Margaret Scott. It mostly
deals with the Wreckers and Miko trying to escape
with one of the relics. The reason why this is
my number five is because of what happens in
this episode basically Ultra Magnus bulkhead
and a wheel jack are down facing Predaking Well
Miko climbs to the top to get to the ship to
warn the other Autobots. Well, she doesn't get
there and Starscream stops her but Starscream
stupidly took off his armor and Then oh my god,
we have a 21st century Exo suit with the apex
armor around you can I sat here slack -jawed
for 20 minutes while that Well, that was happening.
I was like I had to keep rewinding. I'm like
no wait. She didn't oh my god They put an exosuit
reference in this episode. That was so amazing
See now when you have a 12 year old girl suddenly
learning kung fu I'm looking for sky bite, you
know, cuz they're jumping the shark Okay number
four Michael My number four was war dawn G1 episode
episode 59. This is the one where the aerial
bots are being all cocky and They go back in
time way back in time To see how the the great
war started and see the the birth of optimus
prime And that's why optimus brought him back
in the future Yep, I don't think that's why he
brought it back here because it wasn't until
after they came back and reminded him Oh, yeah,
we met you in the past and he went. Oh, yeah
So it was you five. Yeah, which explains why
he decided to bring those five maybe uh... it
kind of throws continuity of what's kind of like
the creation of the the construct a cons secret
of a mecha supreme was the best origin for them
to change it twice they changed it twice uh...
they used to be seven no in one continuity they
were just eight Really? No. Steve, number four.
Optimal situation. Because it was kind of an
optimal situation. You had two optimists and
Megatron's telling his Predacons to pull yourselves
together. Even though there was really no way
they should have been able to pull together because
they were all in itty bitty pieces or torched
by a nuke. But, you know, screw Ravage, you know,
we'll just leave his fricking carcass in his
head sitting there and, you know, Tarantulas's
little drone will knock it off into the ocean.
Everybody else can put themselves back together.
Guess it doesn't pay to be a Decepticon. No,
not really. Their salaries are pretty low. They
got hosed. They got hosed. They got hosed. At
least if they had a real beast for them, they
could live on without the spark. Decepticons
forever, you know. Oh, we turned into a cassette.
Eh, you're fucked. It's kind of hurtful, too,
because Waspinator pulls himself together twice
an episode. He got touched by an immortal spark.
He can't die. It's like Deadpool I Think that
might just a little bit off -topic here I think
my two favorite waspinator moments where he got
actually three where he got Demolished was the
very first time Rhinox fired the Gatling gun
on him, and he just went all to pieces The time
where Dinobot ripped him into single thin shreds
sliced him up like a little too did Yep, and
then I like the one where he gets trash compacted
Waspinator cube, yep. Waspinator put himself
to the CR tank. Yep. Number four for me is the
return of Optimus Prime 2 party. I'm a Peppa.
Would you like to be a Peppa too? Just the...
That was memorable. Just the sheer fact of...
The right I don't get wrong the writing in this
episode is really good But just the fierce the
sheer fact that they had to say Sun spores created
a hate plague when we get most of our solar spores
from this Sun and they don't necessarily say
what Sun it is because they don't say if it's
near Earth or anything is some distant plant
it just I don't know it's just kind of silly
and weird but I love when Ultra Magnus turns
evil and he's chasing Rodimus and basically telling
him I taught you everything you know kid if it
wasn't for me you'd be dead by now and blah blah
blah but what I love about this one is Galvatron's
reluctance to help them because there's a scene
where they get trapped by the spider web And
Optimus is like, Yellowtron, you're our only
hope. Where's R2 when you need him? Oh, fine.
Very well. Come on. And in that episode, Optimus
Prime turns into Ultra Magnus. Because after
that time, every white Optimus Prime repaint
is named Ultra Magnus. No No, we need a white
optimus prime and a black optimus prime we need
the scourge and Spited versus by we need a scourge
and we need an ultra Magnus repaint No, and the
nice thing is they both can have those nice teal
highlights because Number three Michael saving
paint number three heavy metal war g1 episode
16 Believe this is the season finale for season
one where they into well when the constructicons
merge for the kill Yeah Yeah, another and again,
it's near and dear to my heart because when I
was little I had the Constructicon gift set I
was really proud of that Loved that set played
the played with it till it broke Yeah, I wish
Megatron would have saved that trick for a little
while because You're right Yeah, you dad they
had to do it then because I want to say they
were already writing the Transformers movie they
were Yeah, and like that was their that was their
their big trick. I Just love Starscream in that
episode my Control chip lets him do six different
things and he's just boasting all over the place
But I love basically super powered up Megatron.
That was really awesome. Yeah Steve number three
This one's a little difficult All right, I can
narrow it down Master of the house I call it
my throne room, Optimus Primal. From Beast Machines.
A few memory gaps to fill. Yep. Let's start with
the Beast Wars. They're over. You lost. Yeah,
there's just so many memorable lines right in
there. I thought you were going to do the whole
thing, too. The sad thing is I had the whole
thing memorized. I know you do. I used to walk
around work doing it. And then people would look
at me. So yeah, that's one of my favorite episodes
of Beast Machines because Megatron's in it and
his new upgrade and the fact that he's thoroughly
thrashing the other Maximals while Primal's getting
discouraged and his ego's being beaten down.
simultaneously because he's like I don't remember
what happened but I know we beat you and Megatron's
like yeah you suck my number three is optimal
situation boy Optimus learns a new body fast
he should he changes them often enough Just the
fact that they, okay, you know, everyone says,
everyone that complains about Beast Wars says,
oh, well, the CGI sucks. It was 1996, people.
Of course, it's not going to stand up to the
CGI of today. But back then, it was amazing to
see a fully CGI Optimus Prime inside the Ark.
That was amazing. But even 1996 standards...
Were were a far cry from like season 3 Well,
yeah notice the backgrounds getting better you
notice yeah character models getting better the
you know Yeah, everything got better by the time
the season wrapped up. It was like wow This is
just made amazing stuff and they're in the really
cool thing about optimal situation is we actually
see Optimus use all four modes of his new body
That was really cool again Huh? He never does
it again. No, it's the only time he did it. There
are times where he uses the alt, which this always
creeped me out. He has... The beast mode? Yeah.
He has two vehicle modes, a flying mode and a
car mode, and he has a beast mode robot mode
with an ape face, and he has a regular robot
mode with his old face put on a prime body. Alright
number two my the gorilla mode is alright. Well,
I'm sorry. Let's not go down that rat hole No,
I like the gorilla more than I like the blue
one. I Don't know I just I think it's a little
weird that he has a gorilla mode for his robot
mode He's McGilligrilla Well, God no, he's not
he's not that dumb I want to say didn't he have
like wings that came down over his forearms to
make it look like he had big gorilla Forearms
and you know in his feet around so he had beast
feet. So you yeah, I mean he had a Transformation
from you know beast mode to robot mode that wasn't
much worse than pretty much any other You know
beast worse figure. Well, he did have a McGilligorilla
moment when he got the cybervenom the Transmetal
cybervenom And he goes, my little guy is a D2.
That's right. All right, Michael, number two.
Number two, SOS Dinobots, episode eight of G1.
Why? Well, you know, number one, it gave Simon
Furman his job. It gave him something to bring
back over and over and over and over again. It's
when they introduce the Dinobots in the cartoon
continuity. And again, I didn't read the comic
books. So I didn't have a Dinobot, you know,
comic book continuity introduction to draw from.
But I really liked the Dinobots when I was little.
You know, and I want to say a couple episodes
later. Uh, when the DinoBots actually come back
and I forget the name of it offhand. DinoBot
Island? No, it wasn't DinoBot Island. DinoBot
Island was like Season 2. Fire in the Sky? No,
after Fire in the Sky. Fire in the Sky was Jetfire.
Fire in the Sky was Jetfire. Yeah, or Jetfire,
Skyfire. Yeah, yeah. It was the episode after
that. It was, um... Ah, Kraminy. Check the wiki
real fast. I forget. But it's basically the one
where, you know, the Optimus Prime needs DinoBot's
help. And they say, you know, yeah, Grimlock
is like, no. Me no help you. Me king. Screw you,
buddy. So Optimus Prime makes two more Autobot
DinoBots. But that was that was going to be on
my honorable mention. It almost took the place
of SOS DinoBots. War of the DinoBots War of the
DinoBots War of the DinoBots was the one that
almost made my number 2 but I really liked the
one where they created the DinoBots as well that
was back before TF Prime screwed up the Wheeljack
character so Wheeljack got to actually create
the DinoBots Hell crap. Worst joke ever. You've
done worse. This one sucks, choosing one and
two. These are the ones that are really kind
of my keystones for all things Transformers.
Yeah, bad wordplay. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say
Endgame part three Seeds of the Future is my
number two Because you get to see Megatron in
optimal body fighting Beast Machine Optimus Who
I don't quite care for the body So it was nice
seeing a remnet from Beast Wars come back and
Megatron's basically I think it was like a pun
from mainframe because they're like Hasbro cut
the budget so I didn't have much time for a new
body so this is what we got and Megatron is basically
says the same thing you know You know for the
lack of preparation. This is all I could come
up with at the short notice you know and so You
have Megatron floating around kicking Primal's
ass royally and then He gets his arm dismembered
and shoves it back on and then just keeps on
trucking And he uses he uses all the modes except
for the beast mode which he got rid of Now see
that's what I was gonna ask is is didn't he use
all the modes as Megatron? But not if he didn't
use the beast mode. I remember car mode car mode
and jet mode He was like he actually used He
actually used jet mode also as... That's why
they got rid of the beast mode. He used jet mode
as jet mode itself and then he used it as submarine
mode because he went underwater as the jet. Yeah,
submarine mode. That's awesome. It's like Tron
water. Oh lord, no. Alright, number two for me.
Is the Feral Scream two -parter? Everybody should
know by now my favorite Beast Wars Beast Machines
character is Cheetor People might be surprised
why isn't that my number one because the episode
that set my number one was probably The most
shocking revelation for me at the time when I
was watching the series, but Feral Scream two
-parter It's basically an adolescent, you know
young adult growing into a you know well, a teenager
growing into a young adult. And it's all about
Cheetor getting a new body. Cheetor's Transmetal
Tube body is so much better on the show than
the actual friggin' toy. I remember I got that
toy when I was collecting and I'm like, wait,
this isn't exactly the colors it was on the show.
Oh, show accuracy. But Feral Scream, I love the
sound effects. I love how caught off guard Megatron
is. What is that? What is that thing? I love
a lot of the Megatron lines. Oi! No, no oi. What
is that? What is that thing? That's what you
were making it sound like. No, it wasn't. Anyway.
This is my Megatron voice. Shut the hell up.
What is that? That freaky thing. Naked roll,
naked mole rat song. What is that? That freaky
thing. It's a naked mole rat. Oh, that's funny.
So. Quiet now. Let the girlie sing. Quiet in
the house. All right, Michael, what is your number
one favorite Transformers episode? Chronologically,
it has to be the first actually the first second
and third g1 more than meets the eye Three -parter
surprise surprise. Why is that surprising? It's
not I'm being sarcastic Wow, you just had a Sheldon
moment. You don't know when when sarcasm is happening
So what about the more than meets the eye three
-parter is that makes it your number one outside
of chronologically oh It's chronologically I
think that even if we even if these weren't listed
chronologically it might still be my favorite
Just because you know this is the one that started
it. I want to say I saw the original airing on
TV When I was little and it was like You know
one of those one of those if it were if it were
a scene in a movie it have like one of those
Hitchcock You know we're like zoom in you know
where you zoom in on a character and the background
zooms way out It's like it's like one of those
it'd be like you know my little ten -year -old
self freaking out Eleven actually, but yeah,
yeah, I think I was 11. Yes. Sure. I was too
old to be playing with toys I don't know what
the hell's wrong with me, but you still are Yeah,
but yeah number one number one more than meets
the eye Hi, my name is Michael and I'm addicted
to toys. Hi Michael! Hi Michael! Admitting you
have a problem is the first step, you know. Yes,
exactly. Denying it is the second. Steve, what
is your number one? I am Alpha and Omega. The
beginning and the end. Nemesis part one and two.
Mostly part two, but... It's the coming full
circle for just about everybody because they
get the death of Tiger Hawk. You have Dinobot
because of the death of Rampage and Depth Charge.
You have Dinobot being freed and essentially
separated back to his original self. because
he's snapping out of it little by little with
his honor and finding a way to cheat and help
the Maximals. You have Rhinox being a badass.
You have Rattrap being a whiny little bitch because
he gets his tail shoved into an electrical socket
and it incinerates it. You emasculate in Fembos
and in black shows silverbolt what will happen
to him if he cheats on her and And he goes oh
and So there's that primal, you know going through
the the razor blade fans to fight Megatron was
just simply awesome and then them pummeling each
other and Primal getting his ass handed to him
because Megatron's reading the Mighty Book and
thinks that it's about him. You're so vain. Yep.
And then he gets his face smashed in with a car.
I mean, Rhinox with a shuttle. Which they essentially
tie him to, which is the single most dumbest
idea they could have done post -Beast Wars, knowing
how much of a pain in the ass Megatron's been
the entire series. That strap him to the outside
of the hood. He's like a hood ornament, and then
he falls off We didn't even know he fell off.
We're just getting shot at when we got home We
didn't have enough room for him in the trunk,
so we just tied him to the hood This is a terrible
idea. Why did we do that because we thought he
was a deer? We should have made primal float
on the outside He's got rockets He could have
flew home himself. Just hold on to the wing Yeah,
he'd pop in space. He can't breathe sort of there's
something on the wing it looks like Shit This
chicken is wrong But yeah, so that's that's my
my favorite episode out of all of them That's
the one episode I've watched more times than
any other episode of Beast Wars, Beast Machines,
Transformers, whatever. Interesting. Alright,
my number one is for the sheer shock value of
this whole episode, this whole arc in Beast Machines
is In Darkest Night. when we find out that Jetstorm
is really silver -pulled. I know a lot of people
hate that they turn Silverbolt into a dark, brooding,
Batman -like character, but I found it refreshing
because every time he did something so super
noble, I wanted to basically pull a rat trap
and just smack him upside the head. in Beast
Wars. So I loved Silverbolt in Beast Machines.
Now are these episodes like what I think are
the top 10 best? No, these are just my top 10
favorites and I'm sure if we had done top 20
or more we would have more to talk about and
more agonizing choices to put at the number one
spot. I'm just... in love with Beast Machine
still. That show is still amazing to this day.
I agree. You know, Prime, I know Michael doesn't
like Prime for the most part, but Prime has its
moments. Has its moments. I'll buy that. Has
its moments. Animated has its moments and I'm
really, I know listeners are probably going to
be shocked and surprised that Didn't put trans
warped anywhere on my list even in the honorable
mentions I honestly even though it's basically
five seconds before he gets rusted. I almost
forgot about Rodimus So that should have been
all my honorable mention Trans warped. Yep A
lot of good animated episodes. I mean honestly
when I when I complain that Transformers Prime
didn't do anything new and interesting. I'm complaining
because we've had new and interesting. An anime
that showed us how to do it. I think Prime has
a few new and interesting ways of telling a story,
but it might... I mean, most of Prime season
two -ish is like basically, you know, hunt for
the relics is basically a treasure hunt thing,
but... Gotta catch them all. Yeah. Hunt for the
McGuffins. Yes. But I think it's is it Well transformers
animated was more of the the green raw Kind of
more fun quirky transformers whereas transformers
prime is More dark than any other series. We've
had to date I Don't know beast machines is pretty
good machines is dark, but yeah, not it's not
transformers prime dark Well, I don't know let's
forget about the levity of the series and focus
on the ideas and again I don't want to see unicorn
all over again I don't want to see optimus prime
die all over again, you know But they did an
interesting way of killing the prime aspect was
really good I liked how they they came up with
like he was just really bad old damage from that
that ion cannon that down so that was an inventive
way of essentially putting him near death, but
not killing him. And then they reforged him.
So he essentially didn't die. But. And then,
well, they killed Megatron in the show, too,
and brought him back. So, I mean, that's but
I mean, if you look at the ideas that came out
of animated zombies. Well, not zombies. Well,
I guess I guess in prime Starscream in prime.
Right. But look at, you know, you've got Optimus
Prime. Prime is not the end all be all. Prime
is a title. It's a captain. Literally a captain's
chair. Captain Optimus. Captain Optimus Primal.
Make it so Optimus Primal. Make it so. Make it
so Optimus Prime. So you've got the Autobot Academy.
You've got Autobot Ninjas. You've got the Ninja
Academy. So many ideas that were added to the
mythos thanks to animated With prime I think
they did storytelling very well Regardless of
what you feel about what stories they told yeah
in season 2 they had four episodes back to back
to back for an entire month of episodes where
The Autobots all went off on different missions,
and these four episodes basically told you what
each of the teams was doing. You got tunnel vision,
triangulation, triage, and toxicity. And then
when you get to the episode Hurt, you find out
what happened to them all. And I like how they
did that, where they basically broke them all
up into teams and basically spotlighted two or
three Autobots. Autobots with their human partners,
you know, you always complain about the zombies
in Prime and complain that it's Unicron I found
Unicron in Prime to be very interesting because
it's not just a giant planet of death It's the
core of our yeah, it's it's basically saying
Earthlings are evil Earthlings are bred on the
evil blood of an evil planet. I hate seeing Galactus
show up in transformers every time Where's the
silver surfer? What bothers me is not so much
the fact that oh they had zombie I love zombies
the zombies genre is one of my favorite horror
genres, but They introduced zombies. They used
them for two episodes and Then they said what
zombies what zombie what you know, and you know
The idea came up a little bit later when you
look at like Skyquake I want to say the idea
may have come up a little like in the season
later may not have I forget But it's like hey,
okay, let's do zombies cool I can see let's run
with this and they ran with it for two episodes
and then they forgot about it Unicron well unicorns
an interesting idea and they did do it in an
interesting way and then Two episodes later unicorn
who what you know, we're not gonna revisit That
idea we're not gonna think about that anymore
because that was two episodes ago and They did
that a lot and it really bothered me that you
know, it's like they're they're they're rehashing
old ideas and Then they forget about it in two
episodes and then oh look, it's a new idea This
is interesting and then two episodes later. No,
we're not gonna do with that anymore It's like
well, you know you tout the storytelling and
yet You know, where's the sweeping story arcs
that we're used to in this new and interesting
world of television that we didn't have 30 years
ago? There was that whole seven part story with
Prime. It went from the end of season one into
the beginning of season two. Let me look here.
Season one. Must not have been that memorable.
No, it started with... It started with One Shall
Fall, went through the three -parter One Shall
Rise, and then went through the three -parter
of Orion Pax. We're not retreading all of these
old G1 storylines, One Shall Fall. No, it's just
a name. That's just the name of an episode. Come
on now. Please. Let's go back to G1 and tell
me where that line comes from. Yeah, we know
why I'm sure stand and one shall fall. It's like
yeah, and now it's it's kind of it's kind of
mandatory the that each prime says that as he
dies as Actually actually this series transformers
prime actually broke it up because Megatron said
one line and then Megis Megatron says that's
the same thing as what they did in transit in
Star Trek into darkness And it was terrible you
can't see it because you know what it's the same
writers. It's just that's true No, it's not.
No, wait a minute here. It was not. Horsey and
Curseman were executive producers. They have
no writing credits on this. Doesn't matter. The
idea was planted. The idea was planted. They
were sitting on the boardroom. They're like,
you know what would be fun? Let's swap their
lines. That would be awesome. Yeah, if Megatron
said it this time. Oh, and then and then they're
like the next time they're like, and you know
what would be even more awesome is do it again
in Star Trek. Oh. I think a little Stephen Melching
just came out. Stephen Melching, please comment
on this episode post and tell them how wrong
they are. I'm telling you, I called off Stephen
Melching, and Stephen Melching was like, hey,
I'm right here, man. Your bad mouth to me did
like to my face. And I said, I'm sorry, but I
want some better ideas. You're not bad -mouthing
him. I'm just saying. No, no. I didn't even know
he was the writer at the time. I was just saying,
this is some crap right in here, buddy. And it
turned out to be him. It got better. I mean after
that I mean after that we got dragons And maybe
dragons are a little easy, you know, because
it's it's it's Beast Wars all over again. Wait
a second you give you give more Interesting nods
to dragons than you do to zombies Like you're
you have no problem with dragon again two episodes
of zombies one whole season and a movie With
dragons. Of Predacons. Yeah, exactly. They were
Predacons, bitches. They didn't write in the
dragons and then forget about them two episodes
later. They actually carried through with it.
And we got to see the logical conclusion. The
only problem was I didn't like the fact that
Megatron turned into a little bitch in the other
movie. Other movie? He became Unigelvatron. Unigelvatron?
In, um... He became a, he became a, uh, sharkticon.
In Predacons Rising. Oh, yeah. Oh, alright. A
flying, flying... sharkticon. With Unicron Spark.
Okay. Lame. Alright, this is going nowhere. Wait,
wait, there's this red hole has gone so deep,
I don't even know where it started. Me either.
It went to the toilet. I think that's gonna do
it for this episode of all things transformers
coming up next We've got the transformers countdown
number two our top ten favorite Characters from
all generations we have those Yes, there's more
than one generation thought about yes, who's
in it? Can I just say Optimus Prime, Optimus
Prime, and then... No, you can't just say Optimus
Prime. And then Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Starscream, and
Starscream, and Starscream, and Close the show,
Steve. We'll have sex with Prime. It's like,
is that playing with yourself? I don't know.
It's Bumblebee. Who let that guy in? Yeah. Bitch
slap him. Thank you for listening to All Things
Transformers. Catch you next time. See ya. You
guys are jerks. Why is that? Looptie loop, huh?
You have some brass bearings, Bumblebee. Come
out, Autobot! We all must die sometime! Not today,
Galvatron! Sear me this mockery of justice! It
isn't even dead yet! Oh shit, what are we gonna
do now?
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