All Things Transformers
IDW Transformers Comics and Movie News

About this Episode
Starscream here, and I am Lord and Master of
All Things Transformers. Don't tell Megatron.
You're listening to All Things Transformers,
version 2 .0. Welcome to all things transformers
version 2 .0. I'm your host Steve Megatron Phillips
and joining me in the final ATTF of 2013 is TFT
one Mike. Hello. Hello How are you good? It's
been a while Yeah, the last one I did was I took
over for you when Amy and I did the convention
coverage Kind of recapping because lady rec aka
Amy She went to BotCon, TFCon, and AutoAssembly,
the three major Transformers conventions in the
world. It would be expensive, but fun as hell.
Yes, it would. But yeah, this will be the last
ATTF for 2013. We've got some news and all that
good stuff, and later on we'll be talking about
a prime ending. As well as the future of this
very podcast Yes, that's right, but that will
be at the end Yes at the end What else has been
going on with you? Well for those that don't
know In case you're not listening to the other
shows which you should be Yes, you should we're
doing the top 100 animated film countdown I'm
doing my podcast altered geek unlimited, which
is kind of more or less than GCR but more freeform.
I didn't want to say off the cuff because we
have a show called Off the Cuff. There's a lot
of work going on behind the scenes for future
stuff with GCR as well as like I said this podcast
that we actually discussed earlier today so that's
quite fitting. But not much else going on other
than that Yeah I'm just looking at Facebook now
and one of the pages I follow on there and This
is Transformers related, so... One of the pages
I follow on there, Bowweave, Grownoutweave, Ninnybong
says, You do realize Optimus Prime and Optimus
Primal are two different characters, right? They're
not supposed to be the same. Anyway, how come
nobody ever says, Gun, not T -Rex, for Megatron?
And there's a picture that says, Say truck, not
monkey, one more time! Nice. I'll have to link
the fan page post for them in the... In the show
moved again hopefully for the last time The funny
thing is I moved back to the same basically the
exact same apartment building I moved out of
in early 2011 Except I'm in the apartment below
where I used to be it's the exact same It's literally
exact same floor plan, it's just the bottom apartment
instead of the top one on the second floor, so...
Me Grimlock, step on TFG -1, Mike. Yeah, sure.
Oh, boy. So yeah, that's a good thing that's
happened, and I'm... Because the bad thing that
happened is the program that I was in, they...
The government shut the funding down on it, so...
They're having to set all the clients up in other
apartments outside of the program, so I'll actually
be basically on my own. So there is that. Let's
see, what else, what else? I'm pretty much gung
-ho on Transformers comics right now. the current
state of the comics. I have respect for the Marvel
US and UK stuff and Dreamwave and all that, but
I just don't. Like, I'm too engrossed in the
current stuff to even go back with the old stuff
at this moment, and right now I'm reading More
Than Meets the Eye, Robots in Disguise, Beast
Hunters, even though it only has one issue left,
which sucks. That was supposed to be a third
ongoing that they were gonna do. for the longest
time it was an ongoing and then one of the solicits
said six of eight and then we find out that oh
it's just gonna be a miniseries which really
sucks but yeah that's pretty much all that's
been going on with me yeah I used to be a transformer
comic collector back in the days of Marvel and
Dreamwave as soon as it hit IDW I was kind of
done I have most of the g2 comics I have or I
used to have all of the generation one comics
minus two issues And I want to get the Regeneration
one, but I'm gonna wait for the trades because
eventually I'm just gonna pick up all of the
trades of the Marvel run Yeah Because I liked
that saga even though a lot of it didn't make
any damn sense at points But the stories did
get better and the drawings did get better as
it went on, so it wasn't a bad series. I prefer
that over some of what's happening now. I don't
care for it now. See, that's the thing with me
and that's one of the reasons why I like doing
our comic review discussion show, The Pull Bag,
where I'm a new reader. You know you you know
about this stuff or you had this stuff you had
that like I've never read that I might have read
the Marvel stuff as a kid, but I don't remember
I honestly don't And for me like my start was
the death of optimus prime one shot and more
than meets the eye Well, it was something well.
It was something that You don't Really often
see it. I guess you could kind of say you saw
it in g1 season 3 but not really basically James
Roberts the writer said I'm gonna take Rodimus
and a bunch of other Autobots and Cyclonus who
is not a Decepticon and and a bunch of other
people and we're just leaving we're going on
a quest we're gonna go find the Knights of Cybertron
we're not even gonna deal with being on Cybertron
anymore and I was like that's kind of ingenious
and my skepticism about getting into Transformers
comics now was, oh, what if they're characters
I don't know? What if they're characters that
I'm not used to? You know, it's kind of like
wearing those rose colored glasses a lot of people
still do sometimes about their favorite characters.
And a lot of the characters in More Than Meets
the Eye really, really grew on me. There's a
couple of quote unquote relationships that...
I just can't wrap my head around, but other than
that, it's a damn interesting book. Now, the
Marvel run had a lot of relationship things.
It also had the death of pretty much everybody
at some point. I think Prime dies like six times
in the 80 issues. Wow. Megatron dies like twice.
Starscream dies a couple times shockwave. I mean
everybody dies at some point But you also have
an intelligent Grimlock Where he wears a crown
and he rules the Autobots because primes gone
You don't have the ultra Magnus kind of ruling
everybody. You don't have Rodimus It's it's kind
of interesting I know in the regeneration one.
They brought Rodimus into the fold After they
killed off Optimus again or did whatever they're
gonna do with them. I don't know the full details
of it, but But yeah, you get Unicron you get
you get Galvatron in the timeline you get There's
a lot of jumping all around you get to go to
nebulous you get to go to a bunch other planets
You get battles in cyberspace between Optimus
and Megatron like they're in a video game. I
mean You get the smelting pool you get stuff
on old Cybertron new Cybertron So I mean it's
it's all over the place and that so I mean it's
it's pretty interesting The interesting thing
for me now with the two years of the current
ongoings Right now they're just starting actually
it's as of this recording it's coming out November
20th part two of dark Cybertron. It's the huge
It's kind of like, um, it's kind of like when
DC does an event like Death of the Family or
Zero Year or something or other. It's a huge
crossover! Well, Dark Cybertron is More Than
Meets the Eye and Robots in Disguise, the two
casts of the two books finally coming face -to
-face with each other after two years of writing
completely different stories because, as I said,
More Than Meets the Eye is, hey, here's Ronimus
and a bunch of ragtag other robots and they're
off in space, whereas Bumblebee... Starscream
a lot of the non -aligned life forms aka nails
are still on Cybertron trying to establish some
sort of government so Dark Cybertron is basically
shockwave bringing his whatever plan he's had
for the last millennia to fruition and the two
casts of the books are coming back and doing
one giant crossover and it the first issue was
pretty much all set up and kind of recap it's
it even said previously on that was that was
just awesome um and uh yeah it's um it's it's
interesting i'll i'll give you that uh i gotta
say the most interesting thing out of reading
more than meets the eye at least uh was shockwave's
origin just so badass I can't even, I just can't
even say what it is. Not because I know that
you won't read it, but it's for the listeners.
Read More Than Meets the Eye and find out what
Shockwave's origin is. You guys will all crap
yourselves. It's that hardcore. Alrighty then.
Shall we get into the news? I think we should.
So starting off the... Transformers news is of
course getting back into the film universe yay
not that I care about rumor or speculation or
pretty much anything to do with the films until
I actually see them because honestly I think
they're beating a dead horse again but whatever
I would rather they kept on with their animated
stuff because it's far superior Yes Steve Jablonski
interview with Michael Bay and the Transformers
franchise and Age of Extinction They gave an
idea of how the score for the film may be like
Saying that the also that every aspect of it
with the sound design to the CG, it's gonna be
huge and massive. Like the other three haven't
been quote -unquote huge and massive? Yeah. Like
seriously, I really wish, no offense to Mr. Jablonski,
he did, I really liked his score for Dark of
the Moon, but like, you need someone new. You
need someone, a different approach. you need
someone that may have done the prime animated
series sco i'm sorry i shouldn't be bringing
my brian tyler fanboys him into this but like
i want someone different now like we've had three
movies with jablonski no offense the guy does
amazing amazing work but that's all right they'll
bring lincoln park back and we'll all be screwed
you know pretty much yeah so Skipping along Mark
Wahlberg talks transformers for age of extinction
At the premiere of his latest movie Lone Survivor,
which again, I've never heard of that either.
So He says it's a completely different standalone
movie yet it's still technically supposed to
take place after the third one Because it takes
place after the third one after the Battle of
Chicago, it's definitely its own story Which
it's which makes no damn sense But again Then
he goes on to say This sounds so stupid because
he's reiterating the same crap just in different
sentences I think it's very different fresh and
people are going to really enjoy it. I Had a
blast making it and you're going to see things
in this particular movie that you haven't seen
in the other movies Well, no shit. We're gonna
see Dinobots Yeah and we're gonna see other people
that are stupid that are going to replace shia
i'm much more happy with the casting of walward
even though we don't know what his role is so
because i do like him as an actor and i think
frazier's in it oh beast kelsey graver that's
funny but yeah i mean It's funny looking at some
people's comments because they're saying fresh
and different translates into almost exactly
like the last Yeah, which I have to agree I Think
that the robots I think they're gonna retool
them so they kind of have the more And we talked
about this on altered geek like two three weeks
ago About them changing the style of the Transformers
So they're gonna be a little bit more Closer
to the transformers prime style so they're more
so they're more smooth and streamlined instead
of having all the ragged pipes and I just hope
they get a voice for bumblebee this time around
we've had three movies or Or, Brian T. Stevenson.
Oops, inside joke. In any case. In any case.
And when they bring Megatron back, we know that
they're not gonna get What's -his -Nuts back,
so they should just get Walker. To do his Transformers
Prime voice. Yeah. No, I agree with that, yeah.
I don't know, like... I'm still... I know it's
X number of years later, but I'm still burnt
out on when we did all that constant Revenge
of the Fallen news and this is kind of why I
stay away from the movie news is we don't know
what's going to happen we don't know who is going
to be cast as whom and Okay, great. The title
says age of extinction. Has there actually been
confirmation that Dinobots will be in the movie?
Yeah Okay, there has all right. Well, that's
that's all well and good But my question is what
are they gonna do with the dinobots? And who
are they gonna do or who are they gonna get to
voice the dinobots? Cuz honestly if Grimlock's
in the movie and it's not Greg Berger Blasphemy
I'd yeah, and it's not just me saying. Oh, it
has to be Greg Berger because of g1. It isn't
that at all. It's because Greg Berger has To
my knowledge, been the only voice of Grimlock.
Okay, well, no, actually I take that back. David
Kaye. It either has to be Greg Berger or David
Kaye. Well, I disagree. It should be Greg Berger
only because, like in the Transformer games,
he plays it pretty badass. Like, he can play
the dark Grimlock. I agree, but I'm saying, like,
I don't want them to go get... hip -hop wait
what I don't want them what now they have hip
-hop Grimlock yeah no no Chris Rock no John Lowe
God can you imagine her John Lithgow holy crap
what about John Levitt's Lord Farquart or the
critic no thank you me Grimlock smash Don't see
how this next one is news, but okay. I just It's
so this news story is so self -explanatory when
it comes to the movies well essentially As the
title says paramount says transformers five and
six depends on the success of transformers four
well No shit, that's the way any film works But
what they're really saying is when transformers
four starts bringing in the bacon transformers
five and six are getting green light right away
Yeah, that's that's really what they're saying
here And to me, that's that's kind of redundant
and it's stupid to be even saying this because
one it's too early to be even Talking about another
set of films, even though they've already let
the cat out of the bag saying it's gonna be a
trilogy Yeah So, I mean it's I'm so sick of I'm
I know it sounds like I'm being a pessimist,
but I'm so sick of the films at least They need
to put a completely different creative group
in charge. Completely agree. Get rid of Michael
Bay. He's already, yes, he's grandfathered them
in. He's brought them into the live action interface.
That's great. It's somebody else's turn. Let
somebody else come in that actually has a passion
for it. Get rid of pretty much everybody that's
tied to it that's been tied to the previous three.
It needs its own legs needs new legs it if they're
I Don't even get how this is even supposed to
be connected to the previous three considering
they killed Every villain everybody. Yeah, I
mean shockwave was reduced to a sandworm from
either beetle juice or tremors and Sound wave
was wasted away pretty quickly Megatron was a
baby back bitch in the second and third film.
I mean, it's just it's it's been redonkulous.
I don't know. I like them. I enjoy them for what
they are. But. And maybe this is just me getting
old. I just I don't like them as much as I like
other films. But I think it's also a trend of
modern cinema. I find that I enjoy the films
less and less. Take Star Trek for example. Oh
No, here we go It's a darkness my wife. I got
her to watch that She was pointing out every
issue with that film as it went on and I'm sitting
here grinning and she's like Why are you grinning?
I says because that was my exact pissing contest
when I was watching it in the theater She was
like this is so stupid. She's like they could
have saved 20 minutes of film by doing this Because
they've already let the cat out of the bag, and
it was it was written by Orsi and Kurtzman And
it's lazy writing they do great for the first
initial film and they do great for their animated
stuff, but when they get on a And this is coming
full circle to my complaint of getting a new
creative team When they do a second third film
of a franchise They butcher the hell out of it
because they're trying too much to go according
to canon Yes, keep the character portrayals the
same, but don't pull a story from something that
we've already seen Yeah, that's where because
like into darkness. There was so much clustered
in there of All 10 Star Trek films that it it
annoyed me to watch it Then they were like, oh,
this is what you would have said. Oh, this is
what you would have done. Oh blah blah blah Well,
that was their way of flipping the scene Like
it was such a cheap cop -out because it was like
saying we don't know what else to do with this
scene So we're gonna say this is what you would
have done And this is what you would have done
and then they're gonna be like ET phone homes
They call old Spock for like two minutes. It
was it was so So bad But again, I digress when
it comes to the Transformers movies We will eventually
be doing commentaries on them eventually here
in all things transformers I don't know exactly
when because whenever the fourth one gets media
release, but Outside of the news items or outside
of seeing any kind of news for it. I'm just waiting
for it to come out. I don't I Don't care to read
the news about it whatsoever I really, really
don't. Part of me doesn't want to know. Okay,
sure. Mark Wahlberg. Well, that's okay. Well,
he's an action icon. I'm fine with that. He's
perfectly fine. I also have a complaint with,
if they're trying to go a new route, stop getting
a dumbass kid and his girlfriend who are going
to befriend the Transformers. It's like has that
even been announced yes Where it's that was a
long time ago. I must have missed that cuz that
was a long time ago That was like episode okay,
but as long as it's not Shia and obviously it's
not going to be unknowns But there it's it's
another dumbass kid and his girlfriend that you're
supposed to get in the middle of this It's like
I would just rather that they just Had Mark Wahlberg
be the liaison with the Transformers? Like, honestly,
it's so annoying when they have to bring in the
dumbass kid. Yeah, no, I agree with that. Or
do something like Transformers Prime. Have intelligent
three kids. Yeah, really? And have them not be
dumbasses. Yep. Pardon my French. Du mas. Alright.
Let's move on to something we enjoy, comics!
Yay! Alright, so this is the Diamond Comic Shipping
List for November 20th, 2013. So we have, coming
up this week, we have More Than Meets the Eye
number 23, which is Dark Cybertron Part 2, and
Transformers Dark Cybertron Number 1 Deluxe Edition.
for Dark Cybertron Part 2, which is more than
meets the eye number 23, also shipping 1 in 10
subscription variant, written by James Roberts,
John Barber, artist James Riaz, and various other
artists. Cover artist is Casey Collier. The Dead
Universe, Orion Pax, the bot who was once Optimus
Prime, joins Rodimus and the crew of the Lost
Light in a desperate bid to outmaneuver Shockwave
by returning to the legendary Dead Universe.
Meanwhile, Bumblebee faces down the biggest,
literally biggest threat he's ever seen on Cybertron.
And then this dark Cybertron number one deluxe
edition, alls it is is it's kind of like when
DC does the Director's Cuts type of thing, like
when they did... Superman Unchained, number one
director's cut, or Batman, number 21 director's
cut. The deluxe experience. This once -in -a
-lifetime book includes every page of the regular
edition, plus behind -the -scenes material, Phil
Jimenez's layouts, including unused alternate
versions, plus James Roberts and John Barber's
original plot, designs by Andrew Griffith, and
more. So that's what's coming up this week. for
Transformers and comics. And coming up, these
are the solicits for January 2014. We have X
-Files Conspiracy Transformers, written by Paul
Criley, or Crilly, I think is how you say it.
Art by Dehiraj Verma. Covered by Moran Kim. The
lone gunman's trail of secrets leads them to
evidence of an extraterrestrial life. Mechanical
extraterrestrial life. Will Optimus Prime and
his allies trust these human interlopers? And
what secret conspiracy could involve Cybertron
anyway? Alright also coming in January Transformers
more than meets the eye number 26 dark Cybertron
part 8 of 12. Oh boy Cybertron falls monstrous
Necro Titan ravages the world, but is there anyone
left to save it? Meanwhile in deep space ultra
Magnus and the crew of the lost light Struggle
to make sense of what they find in the depths
of scar of the scarlet sea robots in disguise
number 26 dark Cybertron part 9 of 12 the big
one this is it the battle every transformers
reader has dreamed of Titans clash on Cybertron
the fate of the lost light and Orion Pax fights
fist to face against his ultimate nemesis and
from here on things only get bigger also coming
in January regeneration 1 number 99 Written by
Furman. Art by Guido Gitti. Andrew Wildman and
Gitti are on covers. The war to end all wars.
Can the Autobots prevail against Jaxus's new
Cybertronian empire? The disastrous invasion
ends in a dramatic and shocking fashion with
twists, shocks and surprises galore, and Starscream
right in the thick of things. Well, duh. Dark
forces are stirring, and for the final chapter,
the original Transformers epic. Countdown to
the concluding number 100 continues only one
issue remains So that's the news I like I will
be picking up issue 99 and 100 of regeneration
one Yeah, but that's because I have You've read
all the others. Yeah, I it's more so because
it leads directly into g2 Yeah, and I have g2
Yes. Oh boy. Well, that's the news, because neither
one of us are collecting toys and all that other
stuff, and I'm sure they've got some pretty interesting
things. Actually, what they are doing, I know
from looking at the different toy news items,
we're not going to cover them here, but I do
know that they are making toys from the IDW characters,
so that's kind of cool. From the IDW character
design. So that's pretty cool Yeah, I actually
have seen some of the toys Yeah Like the new
IDW Megatron. Yeah, like that black jet or whatever
he is I've seen that and they actually come bundled
with a comic. Yep, they're comic packets and
They're they're like ten bucks. I mean, it's
not it's not bad I'm actually I'm actually thinking
about going and picking up the Megatron because
it's small. It takes up less space. It's a new
design. It kind of reminds me of the Super Megatron.
Or Ultra Megatron. Interesting. From the Japanese.
From the series where he merges with an entity
that's similar to Unicron but not Unicron. Yeah
But it's it's after he dies his Galvatron and
headmasters and then at some point later on He
he joins with this entity later on But they you
know optimus comes back is like super optimus
prime and oh boy rates of But it's it yeah, he
looks very similar to that very interesting I'm
not sure there's much else going on. I know that
Danny Kizio, one of our fans on Facebook, wanted
us to talk about the ending of Prime. We will.
We were going to do it this episode, but we're
kind of trying to keep these to 30 to 45 minutes
now. And I would really want to have two more
voices on this with us and not just us so that
people get a wide range of, because I know I'm
going to gush about the ending, both the series,
the season three ending and the Predacons Rising
movie, so I'd rather have some debate than us
just gush about it. Oh yeah, I kind of agree.
Yeah. So there you go folks the latest transformers
news as far as movie and comics go Like I said,
I mean I'm still I'm still hopped up on prime
I've been Kind of watching rescue bots, but not
really I've been watching it on Netflix. I've
seen like the first two and a half episodes It's
good. I like it for what it is I prefer Prime
as it's the more quote -unquote adult show, because
Rescue Bots is made for children. And as we said,
I mean, the movie will come eventually. I do
really suggest anyone that's a fan of the original...
Kind of characters for transformers that you
do attempt to pick up more than meets the eye
or robots in disguise They're all in trades right
now volumes one through five I think are out
for both books or I know volume five for more
than meets the eye is out volume five for robots
in disguise will probably be out soon ish But
they're pretty good reads Good to know Yep So,
as for the future of this podcast, next year
we'll be taking this in a slightly different
direction. We'll continue to have a little bit
of news, but we're going to do discussions on
each generation of Transformers. It's the title
of the show all things transformers. Yes, but
it's going to be each episode kind of in the
vein of Tooncast and Be cast radio. Yeah, each
episode will focus on a specific franchise of
our generation of it for instance generation
one Generation two for the limited and I'm not
talking about the cybernet space cube. I'm talking
about I know the generation two Beast Wars, Machine
Wars, Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise, everything
onto Transformers Prime. Yep. And maybe by then,
whatever the next Transformers cartoon will be
out or there will be some news about it, we can
talk about that too. Yes. Because next year.
And then depending on where things go from there
will depend on how this show exists. But I would
look for that in 2014 as well as some transformers
commentaries You may even see one for pretty
cotton rising Or The the beast hunters yeah,
so yeah That's that's what you get to look forward
to in 2014 from us here on all things transformers
so is there anything else that you'd like to
Bring up before we close 2014 30th anniversary
of transformers which means as Steve just said
we're celebrating three years with all these
new discussions and everything else and September
17th 30 years ago that day will be the premiere
of G1 and we're gonna do it right this time With
the TFG2 podcast Yes, you heard it here first
But other than that that's pretty much it Alrighty
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