All Things Transformers

War for Cybertron Updates and Interview with Brian Kilby

April 8, 2010 57:20 EXPLICIT
All Things Transformers War for Cybertron Updates and Interview with Brian Kilby
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About this Episode

Steve and Mike discuss Transformers news including Shia LaBeouf's comments on Revenge of the Fallen, the Wii version name change for War for Cybertron, multiplayer details and voice casting (Johnny Young Bosch as Bumblebee), and Julie White and Kevin Dunn reprising roles in Transformers 3. The second half features Mike's interview with Brian Kilby of Radio Free Cybertron, covering his early radio work starting in 1999, his Transformers collection, BotCon experiences, managing large panel discussions, and his philosophy on hosting podcasts professionally.

I'm Stan Bush and I dare you to listen to All

Things Transformers with Steve Megatron and TFG1

Mike. All Things Transformers episode 43. Yes,

I had a brain fart there. I'm your host Steve

Megatron Phillips and always joining the episode

is... Don't worry about the brain fart. I had

to correct JD over on New Soundwave last night.

He had a brain fart on what episode the New Soundwave

was on so... Well Brian hosts Radio Free Cybertron

JD hosts new sound wave and then they have fanboy

versus superhero time What's a new one outside

the cage is their wrestling show I don't know

they they've got a whole bunch of them, but JD

hosts new sound wave and last two weeks he couldn't

remember which episode he said a wrong episode

number and uh... both times i've been on the

sound of the last couple weeks i had to correct

him uh... but it's cool you know those guys are

really cool really enjoying working with them

on their shows so yeah i haven't listened to

new sound wave but i i do listen to uh... new

sound wave is pretty much nerd news without The

nerd news crew. I mean, it's not like like big

news stories, but it's more topical Like it's

not Centrally focused on transformers. It's focused

on like video games and movie stuff and and just

general news or geek news item things Oh boy,

so, how are you? tired Obviously have a cold

as you can tell by the sniffling mm -hmm Yeah,

I left my Benadryl in my car last night, so it's

probably melted by now No, I should be fine we

got Torrential downpour is the last few days,

so yeah Don't think I'll have to worry about

it. Yeah, they kind of hit here last night with

the rain Well, I thought it was hail for a little

while but Wouldn't be surprised though. I've

seen hail in July. That's actually how I ended

up with my car Yeah So I guess we can talk about

some transformers no news here Well, since it's

the beginning of April and all that stuff, we

can start with a news story. Apparently, TFW

is reporting Shia LaBitch, and yes, that's what

I will be calling him for this entire show, is

confused by Revenge of the Fallen. Speaking to

Contact Music, Transformers live -action movie

series star Shia LaBitch admits that he was confused

by Revenge of the Fallen and that he simply could

not work out what was going on with certain Transformers

and plot lines. However, Shia, who plays Sam

Witwicky, does not lay the blame on the feet

of anyone involved in the production in particular,

instead saying that the weakness in the production

came from the writer's strike and having to do

a lot of work on the fly. When asked about the

upcoming Transformers 3, Shia is completely positive

in his faith in Steven Spielberg and Michael

Bay. That the third film will be the best it

possibly can be and that they will not miss the

mark again well Shia if you would Take your mouth

off both their dicks and actually make your own

fucking opinions about it instead of just So

how much was he paid to say that exactly? Because

that doesn't sound like it's actually a coherent

You know, I've said this before on various other

shows as far as The Transformers 3 stuff Until

I see a trailer I don't care but I've also said

this that I only really watch two networks anymore

which is HGTV and Disney Channel and He is more

funny in his Disney Channel show that he was

on that started him than he is now in anything

he's ever done since then. Yeah, I mean, he was

pretty funny on that, but they keep trying to

take that dynamic and move more serious roles

and it just doesn't work. No. No, it doesn't.

It just pisses me off that, oh, they just can't

get a Transformers movie right. So did you see

the new well moving along I guess cuz yeah, that's

a That you know, that's a rat hole that we'll

probably get into too far Did you see the Japanese

transformers animated intro outros? Yeah, and

surprisingly it was pretty cool. Although Again,

it's like a rehashed animated so I could again

care less well That I mean the intro is pretty

cool. I mean, I'm not gonna deny that with you

know, yeah new clips But it kind of gives away

stuff that happens throughout the show Well,

you know, I guess everybody who? Who is a Japan

anime fan or or just a fan of Japan in general

absolutely loves this stuff for me if If they're

going to make new episodes, I hope there are

dubs English dubs That'll never happen. If they're

not going to make new episodes and it's just

animated in Japanese, I don't care. One of the

things I don't like about the intro is that they

make it look like Ironhide and RC have actual

roles in the show. Other than an appearance with

a quick speaking role? Yeah. I mean, I like the

images in the intro. as far as the theme song

it's it's Japan music who cares I don't know

Japan blah yeah whatever um let's see what else

do we have here um we've got I guess we'll jump

to the interesting stuff. Uh, name change for

Wii Edition of Wars for Cybertron. Oh god, kill

me now. Joystick is reporting that the recently

seen Cybertron Adventures for the Nintendo Wii

is actually Transformers War for Cybertron, but

with a more family -friendly name. You know,

I first posted on Twitter about this when I saw

the TFW story. I'm like, oh great, Nintendo.

fucking things up like usual and everybody's

saying, oh, wait, wait, wait, no, this is Activision.

So again, so far in this episode of ACTF, we

have Shia LaBeach sucking on dick, and now we

have Activision sucking on Nintendo's joystick.

What the hell? No, they have Activision sucking

on Nintendo's Wii. Eh, WiiWii. There you go.

Yeah, I don't see what it matters if it's co

- Well, Cybertron or Cybertron Adventures, I

think they should have just left it with the

non -confusing name so people actually knew what

they were buying. Well honestly, who the fuck

is going to buy this for Wii? I mean really,

any real gamer is going to buy it for PC or for

PS3 or Xbox 360. So really, what does it matter?

I'm buying it for my PC. Yeah. Because I'm personally

not going to sit there and network and play this

game on my Nintendo Wii. No. It just doesn't,

I don't know. I just don't see the Wii that way.

And I really can't stand. I could buy the game

$30 cheaper for my PC than it would cost me to

buy it on the Wii. So I would just as soon buy

it that way. Keep my save game locked away so

in case I Wipe it out for some reason I can go

back and put it on later And along with the whole

war for cybertron stuff transformers war for

cybertron pre -order exclusives Activision sent

us a line letting us know that there will be

exclusive characters available for via pre -order

at different outlets for Transformers or for

Cybertron's online multiplayer mode. Starting

today, Transformers fans can pre -order the game

on Amazon .com to receive an exclusive code used

to unlock Demolisher. Additionally, fans can

pre -order the game at GameStop to receive an

exclusive code used to unlock Shockwave. Note

the G1 Shockwave and Armada demolisher references

in these characters Nice attention to detail

make sure to pre -order your copy today So I'm

assuming that these unlockable characters are

only for the online multiplayer I would guess

so because I think you'd have to be online to

use them that kind of sucks I mean, I hope that's

not the case, but if it is, that's pretty fucking

lame. I mean, you know, I've seen the Shockwave

model. I've got the picture somewhere here on

my computer, and it looks awesome. But yeah,

if you can't use it in just the regular story

part of the game, why would you? Because the

whole point of... of War for Cybertron, well

part of the gameplay is that it's, whether you

have two other friends in yourself or whether

it's just yourself and two AI players, it's always

a three player co -op. Like in the regular single

player mode. So why wouldn't you, I don't see

what the point of an exclusive is if you're not

gonna be able to use it in the entire game and

not just on the online multiplayer yeah I mean

I would think there'd be another way to unlock

some of these characters without pre -ordering

just because they're technically already embedded

in the game they just have to be you know magically

released from their shells oh boy but uh I don't

know I just I think doing exclusive content to

try and sucker people into buying it from different

locations and Then having it as a only exclusive

to this only exclusive to that. I mean the the

shoots already built into the game Just give

it to us, you know You know don't fucking toy

with us. It's not fucking 1999 Well, see that's

the whole point though. They want you to buy

the same game at different You know, but like

like the whole thing with the movie exclusive

things and that's not just for Transformers That's

for any movie that's been released in the last

Three or four years Dark Knight had a whole bunch

of exclusives at different stores Iron Man had

a whole bunch of exclusives at different stores

Transformers the the first film and now Revenge

of the Fallen had a whole bunch of exclusives

at different stores and the whole point is is

for them to make the most amount of money is

possible leaving you with you know three copies

four copies of the same fucking thing with maybe

one or two I said me personally I won't pre -order

and I won't I'm gonna buy wherever it's cheapest

I mean you can call that a cop out if you want

I don't really care I just I'm I'm not gonna

spend like big -ass dollars on You know entertainment

shit that I could get somewhere cheap. I mean,

it's I'll get the one that has the you know,

that's the cheapest price and comes with a special

fee Mm -hmm like of some sort some kind of a

exclusive, but I'm not gonna go out of my way

to Get all of these exclusives. Yeah, no When

it comes to DVD exclusives I'm finding now that

like I don't care about transforming DVD cases.

I don't care about Iron Man masks. I don't know

what other exclusives Dark Knight had, and I

know I'm kind of veering off the video game exclusive

thing, but it's the same thing. Really, honestly,

what I want in an exclusive is maybe a steelbook

packaging, which FYE usually has those. That's

the exclusive that they usually get, so I mean,

I bought my Iron Man from them. You know as far

as transformers and all that stuff. I got it

where I could find it Yeah, but it's like wow

And you know in any event you know eventually

somebody whether it's Mike Dodd or Whoever from

this week in geek or from what other geek website

or that does cover games They're gonna give away

an unlock code at some point You know I mean

So Continuing with war for Cybertron GameSpot

presents us the multiplayer details of Transformers

war for Cybertron which features four character

classes soldier scout scientist and leader Also,

we are treated with a brief look into character

customization screen showing off the sabotronic

and weapons systems which the player must equip

to top it all off, a sneak peek of the character's

special abilities and repaints. Now, Tformers

.com, they had a couple of videos from GameSpot

themselves. that showed the actual online multiplayer

how that was going to work or whatever they had

some interview with Matt Teager about it and

he had basically said that you know they've been

kind of tight -lipped on the multiplayer obviously

until the game gets released I don't know if

it was the TFW video here or if it was the Tformers

video but I saw at the end of it Of the apparent

release date for Transformers 1 for Cybertron

is June 22nd 2010 So right before BotCon pretty

much Figures Well, it's you know, whatever as

good time as any of the release that you get

the hype already built up. Yeah All right Hopefully

the price isn't too bad when it does get released

yeah Hopefully the game moves up everything that

everyone, including myself, expecting it to be.

Hopefully it's not a downer. Because I guarantee

you, well I guarantee you, if this game doesn't

live up to the hype, it's going to be universally

banned and it'll be in bargain bins in the next

week. I mean that would be good for people like

me that are cheap. I personally hope it succeeds

that way we get another long line of good games

kind of in the vein of like Batman having Arkham

Asylum. Yep. Well, apparently we've found out

who is voicing Bumblebee in Warfare. We have

all this Warfare Cybertron stuff to get up on.

Johnny Young Bosch, best known for portraying

Adam Park in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, posted

on his Twitter to tell the world that he'll be

voicing Bumblebee on Transformers War for Cybertron.

Mr. Bosch said, so one of those games I couldn't

talk about voicing is finally up on IMDB, Bumblebee

and Transformers War for Cybertron. So what do

you think, WFC fans? I guess it's okay. I don't

really see I don't really know because I haven't

really heard the actual voice Like the like the

trailers don't really Show I mean, I mean they

show bumblebee off, but they don't really like

Focus on him talking or I haven't seen that.

Maybe I missed it. I don't know We really won't

know what difference that makes anyway until

release Do you want to hit the other Transformers

3 news? The parents? We'll do that in a second

the next bit of war for Cybertron the official

website update with Character bios and Nintendo

Wii NDS issue or if info Yes, it says no online

play for the Wii So, why the fuck would you buy

it for the Wii if you can't even play it online?

Well, you know, and that's the thing though,

like I said before, what true gamer is really

gonna buy this for the Nintendo fucking Wii?

So in other words you're saying fuck you to the

Wii players and everybody else, you're golden.

Which makes me all the more happy that I decided

that when I do get it, it's going to be on the

PC. Yeah, I'm going to have to eventually just

get a PS3 because I'm not putting any more money

into my PC. It runs for what I need it to run

now. And eventually, hopefully, I can get a new

one maybe by next year. But yeah, I'm not putting

any more money into it. Yeah, mine, I bought

it with the intention that when my dad upgrades

his PC, I get the hand -me -downs. Mhm. I bought

some of the same base equipment so that it would

work out that way. So I've already had a recent

upgrade, but yeah, I probably won't put more

money into my PC just to play it. I'll figure

out another way around it. Yeah. Um, Julie White

and Kevin Dunn reprise their roles for Transformers

3. Surprise, surprise. I do not need another

fucking scene with her going all nuts and eating

weed brownies. I honestly don't. I could've done

without her character. Huh? I says I could've

done without her character. The dad I could deal

with. Yeah, Kevin Dunn's okay, but that bitch

is just... God well she didn't really have that

much of a purpose whereas he did Yeah, I mean

not saying he had a good purpose, but I mean

he had more of a purpose than she did Mm -hmm,

so I could deal with another scene with him Yeah,

I really wish they'd kill Skids mudflap or have

their circuitry fixed in this movie because I

don't like ghetto robots. And that's what I see

them as. And it has nothing to do with them in

theory being black. I just can't stand that retarded

slang talk. I hear that on a daily fucking basis.

I can't stand to hear that in a movie that I'm

going to buy. Yeah, you know everybody made a

big deal about the fact that Michael Bay just

put these characters into To do whatever and

when I did see it the first time I saw it in

theaters when I went to go see it in theaters

I Thought it was alright sure it was annoying

as hell, but I didn't like freak out like everybody

else in the fandom did Yeah, I didn't freak out

either because I knew what to expect out of it

Which was I didn't expect a lot. I just I didn't

care which was good, but I I Didn't care for

the characters either though. Oh Yeah, I'm the

same way I I didn't care for him either You know,

I don't like the movie just because of an overall

basis. It has really nothing to do with those

two. It just seemed kind of like a clusterfuck.

Mm -hmm. Yeah, whenever we get around to our

commentaries of both movies, we'll, um, we'll

expound more on that, because, wow. Yeah. Yep.

Uh, I guess... Well, the last thing I want to

bring up, it's not really news, it's more of

a toy review video. Pia had gotten his hands

on a War for Cybertron Deluxe Optimus Prime toy

and it looks very well done. There's probably

a slight iterations difference from the game

model, but as far as an actual toy based on the

game model, it looks awesome. Yeah, I am actually

kind of pumped about the figures even though

I don't really buy them. I might like sneak by

them. Yeah. So that my wife will never know.

But yeah, I do like some of the ones that I'm

seeing a lot better than some of the previous

lines we've gotten since classics. Yeah. Yeah.

That's pretty much going to do it for the news.

Do you have any discussion topics you want to

bring up? Not really. I would like to see more

listener feedback in the form of email or whatnot,

questions, comments, anything, topic ideas, or

just things that you guys would like to hear

about. I would even be willing to have a where

you could send this real quick, probably 30 second

to a minute clips of questions if you wanted

to do them in audio form to have them placed

in the episode, which I would edit it. I have

no problem doing that. And then we could just

do them kind of like real, I don't know, just

a little more than. what we would have for just

reading somebody's email. Yeah, yeah. I may talk

to Brian Kilby of Radio Free Cybertron and ask

him how difficult the call ins were on the live

show that they did last week. Because I think

all he did was add people to the call in Skype

or something. I don't know. I'll have to figure

that out. Maybe we could do some sort of Call

in saying or whatever. I don't know Yeah, but

I mean it would be cool to have more use your

feedback. Anyway, just to Yeah Add some something

extra into the show. Mm -hmm You know and yes,

I know the show comes like every other week or

after like three weeks sometimes but It's just

kind of the way a news comes down sometimes.

Especially right now or at least until it gets

closer to the movie like next year. Oh yeah.

I guess that'll do it for the most part for this

episode. I do have a war story submission I will

as soon as my nasal issues are done finish that

episode off and get that online. Pretty much

launched that show. So if anybody would like

to submit stuff for that, go for it. I'm already

doing that, so. Where can they submit the stuff?

What's that? Where can they submit the stuff?

Well, they can send the fan fix via email to

podcast at PrediconEmpire .com. Be sure to leave

permission as well. You can also post it in the

forums. the Nexus forums, PredaconEmpire .com

slash Nexus, and go to the mechanic area, which

is just fan fix, fan art, just fan constructed

things. Be sure to leave feedback in the forums

or give us some kind of audio feedback or email

feedback or something. Cuz I know we haven't

had a lot of feedback and the older feedback

no longer applies because we've kind of taken

the negativity out of the show Yeah in the form

of headshots so that this the show stays pure

and fun I mean we still piss and moan a little

bit about some of the news, but it's it's not

really that big a deal Yeah, pretty much Yeah,

so I guess that That'll about do it. Alright,

and stay tuned for words from Optimus Prime.

For now, I am Steve slash Megatron, signing off.

Cliffjumper, commence countdown. Five. Four.

Three. Two. I'm Mike TFJuan Blanchard from the

GeekCast Radio Network and this week in Geek,

today I have the awesome privileged interview

Brian Kilby of Radio Free Cybertron, the guy

who started podcasting before podcasting was

podcasting. Hello, sir. Hello. I don't know how

awesome a privilege it is, but thank you for

having me on. It's just one of those things where

every interview I've done so far, I have that

line in there somehow. I know. Like when I interviewed

Larry Kenny. I said something like, we have the

super awesome privilege to interview Larry Kenny,

voice of Lionel, Lord of the Thundercats, and

Larry is like, wow, I have to add that to my

name, super awesome Larry Kenny. So basically,

the gist of this little interview chat thing

here is to... get to know the real Brian Kilby

behind the scenes. When I first heard of mention

of Radio Free Cybertron was when I was still

listening to Transformers Week in Review, TFYR,

which is no longer a podcast anymore. They ended

on their 200th episode. And I had just gotten

into podcasting, and I had just gotten back into

Transformers and everything else in 2007, 2008.

So, what started this whole thing for you as

far as wanting to do a Transformers radio show?

Well, when I was 18 years old, I actually got

a job in radio. It's where I started out. And

I was sitting around obsessing over Transformers

because I tend to obsess over things. And I wanted

to sort of... do something different. I had a

small, unpopular website, and I just thought,

well, you know, I write all this fan fiction,

I do all this stuff, I'm a very active fan, what

can I do that's different? Well, there are no

internet radio shows, you know, I have the technology,

I have the equipment, I could totally do one,

why don't I go ahead and just try that? And,

well, you know, a couple months later, Boom,

we had a Transformers internet radio show and

it was, you know, I didn't really think anything

of it. I knew that it was kind of different.

I knew that there really wasn't anything like

that out there. But, you know, several years

later, it's like everybody's doing it and it's

like the big thing now and it's pretty cool.

It's, I love the technology because anyone can

do it. It's like it gives everyone a production

room and an audience. It's really cool. Oh, yeah.

When I first started listening to podcasts, I

was going on iTunes looking for stuff that maybe,

the biggest thing I can think of is the creators

of the DC Anime Universe, Bruce Timm and all

them. I was going on iTunes looking for, quote

unquote, podcasts that they were in, and I had

found World's Finest Podcast, and I'm like, oh,

that must be... Something that they're talking

on no, it's just two regular guys reviewing the

entire DC animated universe And that's one of

the you know, like you said, it's one of the

beautiful, you know, beautiful things about it

is, you know Anybody can do it When you started

way back in? 1999 what were you using for equipment

because we were just entering the technological

age back then Depended depended when I was doing

it sometimes I would record stuff at work like

on we had like a really nice Sennheiser Microphone

and like a really high -end mixing board, but

at home. I would just use a standard dynamic

microphone that I bought at Walmart plugged it

straight into my Audi G sound card, and that

was basically it. I used real encoder to encode

it to real media. Sometimes I'd do MP3, but just

basically off -the -shelf stuff. And now, while

I'm doing it with a little more off -the -shelf

stuff, it's a little more advanced. It's still

off -the -shelf stuff. It was like a $20 Walmart

microphone and a computer. That was really it.

got you started in your Transformers fandom?

Like was it a toy? Was it a cartoon? Where did

you start in your fandom of Transformers? It

was my junior year of high school, 1996. I had

to do a presentation on a decade post World War

II, and of course I chose the 1980s. featured

a lot of things, G .I. Joe, the A -Team, Ronald

Reagan, but the most popular topic that I picked

was the Transformers. And of course, I brought

my whole collection, which at the time was like

24 pieces. And it got me to thinking, man, I

really love this stuff. After I put on my G .I.

Joe's back into my old VHS tapes, I said, well,

I think I'll keep these Transformers out. A couple

of years later, I got internet access at college.

and I started reading about this place called

Alt Toys Transformers, which is an old Usenet

group, still around, but hardly anyone uses it.

That was basically the internet fandom from like

93 to like 99. So I became active there and the

rest was history. What was the first ever Transformers

toy you ever owned? It was Cosmos. I still have

it. Do you want Cosmos? Yeah... Poor Cosmos,

he has nothing but cosmic rust all over him.

Yeah, basically. He has the cosmic rust. I wrote

in a fanfic back in the 90s, I equated to the

AIDS. Oh, wow. What is your most prized Transformers

toy? Like what is the one toy? Like if somebody

told you you could only take one toy with you

to a desert island and that was it, which one

would you take? You know, on the surface it's

a hard question, but I'm not really a complex

guy. It would be you on Metroplex. It's not the

best toy in the world. I just like it. He's actually

sitting on my mantle beside my wedding picture.

How do you feel about... I don't know what your

wedding was like, but how do you feel about themed

weddings? Do you know anybody that has ever done

a Transformers wedding? What is your favorite...

cartoon out of the Transformers. The favorite

series? Yeah. My sentimental favorite is G1 Season

3, which is the post -movie episode, which are

basically the only good G1 episodes. Not that

they were that great, but they were a little

more complex and delved a little deeper into

what it is to be a Transformer and what it is

to be human. But realistically, it has to be

Transformers animated, which is the best Transformers

fiction ever. How What what is your collection

up to now as far as how many transformers toys

you have It peaked at around a thousand And I

have over the last like five or six years started

purging. I'm probably down now to 500 I actually

had a box at BotCon where I was literally giving

them away on the floor I actually had security

asked me to leave because I didn't have a booth.

I'm giving this stuff away but they didn't care.

A friend of mine actually pulled me off into

his table and was like, here, you can give these

to me. I'm like, OK. How many times have you

been to BotCon and what is your most memorable

one that you've been to? Let's see here, five

or six times. It was Dallas, Texas, which would

have been BotCon 05. And it's just because it

was wild. I mean, I go to hang out with my friends.

I also go to see the Transformers stuff, but

I go to be with friends. And Dallas is the wildest

city that I've personally been to. Durham was

probably my least favorite. And ironically, the

shortest drive. It's only an hour and a half

away, but it was kind of crap. What year was

that? 01. Oh. Oh boy. This is something that

boggles my mind. I've been on RFC the last couple

weeks. How do you juggle six to eight to ten

people in a record? Most of us have known each

other for a long time and worked together. Since

bringing RFC back, we've had basically the same

crew. You know week to week to week and everyone

likes each other and most importantly everyone

respects each other So, you know if someone's

talking Typically if someone else doesn't talk

over them, but if you know two people start talking

one person will almost always yield to the other

It's really not that hard unless you're ex -v

Bringing Ender on has been in some ways a challenge

Ender is our newest cast member Ender is very

opinionated, but he adds an edge to the show

That is just so awesome He loves to talk, but

he's great at it. And Ender's sort of learned

to sort of pull back. So I think we have a really

well -balanced group, and everyone really likes

and respects each other. I think that's what

makes it easy for me. If Ender had the time,

I swear he should start his own comedy podcast,

because... I'd listen. What'd you say? Oh, I'd

listen. Oh, yeah. Yeah, wow. Let's see what else.

How do you feel about fans that just don't get

the new stuff? That just go into the whole rage

of, oh, this isn't what it's supposed to be or

whatever? Usually it... Well, it really depends.

If you are actively a fan... and you completely

disregard the new stuff. I think it's because

the fans are lazy or they're ignorant. But if

you're just one of the casual people who like

the Transformers because you remember it from

being a kid, that's fine. That's okay. I mean,

you're not investing serious energy into hating

something. But if you collect Transformers, if

you are really into it and you hate anything

post -G1 Season 2, I really don't have much respect

for you. See, I love G1, and we're not going

to get into the whole G2 thing. I'll save that

for another day. But, you know, I've... For me,

it's been like... Like, once G1 ended, I was

like, okay, that's it. It's gone. There's nothing

to move on. And I moved on to other cartoons

and other pieces of the fandom. uh... i kinda

caught beast wars didn't really catch it when

it was on but i'm going either what i'm going

back to it now and uh... you know of course animated

but that whole era from like i think from ninety

to two thousand one two thousand four maybe somewhere

around there i just wasn't into it i started

just started collecting again back in oh seven

and i had seen the armada cartoon and all that

and i was like it no just no but it's like you

know some of these fans i mean i'll i'll admit

i i i am a true g1 completionist as far as that

goes or at least i want to be as far as the toys

go although it's expensive now yes it's too expensive

now yes but you know i buy toys that i like i

don't buy toys that i have to absolutely have

to have to complete a collection and it's just

one of those things where some of these fans

on these sites and message boards now and forums

it's like oh my god like the um oh what was it

uh oh the people with the the rc toy hate on

the wings The wings, you know, Vangelis pointed

it out perfectly in his review of RC. The wings

are nothing more than an oversized version of

Bumblebee's boosters from Animated. That's all

they are. It's an accessory and I heard, I've

never actually witnessed any of this, but I heard

that fans were going crazy over these things

because they were there. And I'm thinking, you

can take them off. and it doesn't really affect

the alt mode and it's like wow and the whole

thing about the the hating on on uh skids and

mud flap in the movie i went in with all that

knowledge of all that you know all that fan hate

and i really didn't care either way i laughed

at some of the stuff they did but i didn't really

care I'm ambivalent towards Skids and Mug Flap,

honestly. I don't care. I think they're kind

of weak. They're definitely weak as characters.

And there may be a racial tinge to me, I guess,

maybe to put it mildly, to their characterization.

But I don't hate them. I kind of hate the movie,

but it's not directly due to them. No, it's directly

due to my favorite quote from Michael Wilson.

I use this all the time. And I know it puts me

in that category of fans hating anything new.

Michael Bay just continually keeps raping my

childhood. Yeah, in a way, in a way, but you

know, everything's new and it's not, you know,

this is no more G1 than Armada is G1, so. Sure.

What else do you collect besides Transformers?

Anything? GI Joe, but my collection is not really

impressive. Video games, but again, my collection

is not really impressive. I used to have a massive

baseball card collection, but I gave it up. Comic

books, and that's about it. pounds right now.

I've gained quite a bit of weight since I don't

work out daily like I used to. Yeah, I need to

start doing that. What is RFC Throwback? Is that

like old episodes that you guys recorded 10 years

ago or something? Yeah, yeah, it's that and it's

imaginary episodes that never happened. Basically,

Chris McFeely or someone suggested about 10 years

ago that we do a show that took place in 1992

and of course I wasn't going to show then. So

we kind of dreamed up an episode and we did it.

So you know once bringing our FC back you know

there are things that we wanted to cover. I had

a whole show prepped to post for 2005. when January

1st, 2005 rolled around to celebrate the movie,

you know, Victor Crowley. It is the year 2005.

I never posted the show and I would love to go

back and actually sort of fill in the gap. After

we did our 10th anniversary show, we went back

and did a 5th anniversary show that never happened.

So things like that, but it's mostly shows from

back in the day. Listening to them now, they're

not really that great. But you know it you got

to consider. There's really nothing else like

that at the time so You know that's the one thing

about this whole podcasting thing that that kind

of pees me off when I get quote -unquote Critical

criticism or or positive criticism or whatever

the hell you want to call it But one things it

pees me off is people call in and say or people

email and say yeah the levels weren't all that

great now We don't get paid to do this if we

did we could if i get paid to podcast i couldn't

use half the audio that i use on on the quote

unquote term free usage or whatever you know

second of all i had just started out didn't know

what the hell i was doing is you know i'm sure

I'm sure the same thing with you. Oh, yeah, yeah,

yeah. There are days now where my levels aren't

that great. I'm looking at my mixer right now,

where I'm used to operating with an actual analog

VU meter. I have two blinking lights. Green is

good. Red is too hot. So sometimes my levels

are off, and that's just part of the game. I

understand people being critical. I used to have

people, if I missed a week, people would call

in and bless me out. People would email me, so

where's the show? Why aren't you doing the show?

It's like, how much are you paying for this?

But that's part of actually having fans, people

who are invested in what you do. People enjoy

your work, and they feel like they own it. In

a way, they do. Because, I mean, you're not just

doing it for yourself, you're doing it for people

out there to listen. Yeah. You know, it's one

of those things where it's like, you know, you

guys brought IRC back, you've been doing it,

what, I don't know, what, six months, a year,

two years? How long have you been? Since we brought

it back, it's been about 10 months. Yeah, about

a year. And it's just one of those shows that

that whether I'm I mean I've been on it the last

couple weeks But whether I'm on it or not, you

know I've started listening to and it's just

one of those shows where I can listen to it because

you have that dynamic group of people That each

of them are so different in their opinions and

they don't pander to their listeners That's one

thing you guys do that a lot of other and it's

one thing that I try to do it as well There's

another there was a Transformers podcast that

one of the hosts constantly said oh the three

listeners that we have and nobody listens to

this show that's not how you get listenership

I know it's I know the guy was joking at the

time but after one episode saying that that's

enough you know you you don't pander to your

listenership or people aren't gonna listen to

you Yeah, I mean you want to put on the best,

most professional, if that's what you're going

for, part that you can. For me, I look at it

like I look at my professional corporate career.

I want to dress and act like a level or two above

where I am so that someday I can be there. So

if I only have, like when we brought the show

back, actually the first show we had quite a

few listeners because people were interested,

but the listenership dropped off, but I kept

going. plugging along, and now our listenership

is pretty good. I hope it quadruples over the

next year, but because I don't necessarily have

15 ,000 people listening a week, I wish I did,

it's not like, oh, well, I wish people would

listen to the show. No, I put on the best show

that I can and hope that people are attracted

by it. Since I've been you know paying attention

to RFC and I don't see a new sound way for pretty

much the two that I pay attention to Now you

guys have a whole bunch of other ones as well

right superhero time and fanboy versus And we

have a new one outside the cage, which is like

an MMA thing. I am only tangentially involved

there I'm on it mostly to add color. I am I quit

watching mixed martial arts a couple years ago

I'm basically on it because I'm the dude who's

recording it and editing it But XV handles Super

Hero Time, which is a Sentai and Mighty Morphin

Power Rangers show. We have Family Versus, which

is a comic book show. I mean, I guess I own the

network, whatever. I mean, I pay for it and host

it and everything. But I only host one of the

shows now. JD hosts two of them, XV hosts one,

and Gabe hosts the other. But I actually like

not being the host because it... I think that

I do well enough job hosting RFC. I want to really

like raise my game as being a contributor to

the other shows. So that's where I feel that,

you know, I need the most, you know, development.

So I sort of pulled back the other shows and

I'm trying to be a better, you know, just panel

member. So yeah, see, like when I've been on

the last couple of weeks on RFC, my problem is

I'm so used to hosting. That because I on ours.

I mean you you interviewed Steve and I a couple

weeks ago That you know on ours. I'm pretty much

the main voice on almost every show You know

Steve has his shows You know and all that but

you know for the most part a lot of the major

ones like beast unleashed and tuned cast and

all that I'm pretty much the main voice so it's

like I'm trying to like When I'm on RFC the last

couple weeks, I'm like, okay. Well, this is their

show So if they say hey, what do you think about

this? I'll chime in or come on in Or if there's

a thing where or I can throw a joke in or I can

try to throw a joke in I will try to I cannot

believe nobody got I cannot believe they almost

bitched me out on that Batman Batman forever

reference Uh, yeah, you know, people are critical

of the Joel Schumacher stuff. Yeah, well, but

the whole thing was we were talking about the

3DS, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The 3DS, and

the only thing I could think of was 3D TV was

the box where you plump it on your head from

Batman Forever. Don't take it personally. No,

I don't. No, I don't at all. It wasn't a condemnation

of you. It was a condemnation of Joel Schumacher.

Going back to being the sole voice of your shows,

I understand that that's where I came from. I

enjoy doing that. We have lots of people on our

network and they're on most of the shows. come

from a management background. I had a team of

people that reported to me. I wanted to develop

the people that are on the podcast. to raise

their game and raise my game as a contributor.

I decided, hey, you guys host these shows, I'll

pull back. And in doing so, we're all getting

better. And I hope in the next year or two all

our shows are top -notch. I think we're good

now, but hopefully we'll be two or three levels

better going forward, because it's constant improvement.

You had mentioned earlier about, you know, when

people were listening and you say you'd miss

a show and they'd call in and pretty much say,

where the hell's the show or whatever? See, now

what I've done on a couple of our shows is I've

done a backlog. So that way I know. I don't mind

pre -recording shows because honestly, we don't

get a whole heck of a lot of feedback, which

really sucks for us. Yeah, we don't either. But

it's one of those things where I'd much rather

have a backlog of 20 episodes and have that ready

and set to go each week, you know, and be so

far ahead in the schedule than be three weeks

behind. Yeah, and your format really works well

with that. Most of our shows, we try to be timely

as far as news and such goes. We at least have

a news segment because we want to cater. We want

to be sort of like a news magazine, like 60 Minutes.

We'll talk about a topic. We'll delve into it.

We may revisit it later, like when a new show

comes out, or if we talk about Optimus Prime

through history, and the next three shows feature

Optimus Prime, we can go back to that topic.

We try to be, you know, sort of sensitive to

the time of the day or the Zeitgeist or whatever.

So we want to be timely. And see, that's one

of the things when I created Toycast, the original

idea was for one of the hosts over there, General

Techno, who had done a review show of animated

season three. He had mentioned that you know

what you know why don't we do an? Transformers

news podcast and Steve and I had already been

friends and we'd already had all things transformers

I'm like well you got TFW at the time you had

TF wire you guys There are so many transformers

news podcasts out there, so why don't we do something

different? Why don't we act like a bunch of friends?

come on and do audio toy reviews. And that's

where Toycast started. And that is the show that

I can record pretty much any time as long as

I can find somebody to record it with. Yeah,

and that's great. I like that. It doesn't really

matter. I wish I had a show where I don't currently.

I guess throwback if we ever actually did it,

but I think that's great that you have something

that you can just jump in and do whenever you

want to do. It's a great convention for you to

have that you can go to whenever you want to.

Do you have any other parting words before we

close this out? Thank you for having me on and

of course the plug. You can visit us at tfradeo

.net. This has been Mike TFDU in Blanchard with

Brian Kilby from Radio Free Cybertron. We will

see you later. I wish to speak to my lawyer.

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