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All Things Transformers – Origins of Steve Megatron and TFG1Mike

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Mike "TFG1" Blanchard
Steve "Megatron" Phillips
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This is Optimus Prime, and you are listening
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to all things Transformers. It's a crime. Hey,
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I wonder what these gizmos are for. Hey! How
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do you work these things? In fact, I think it's
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time to shred some prey. Hello and welcome to
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an all -new generation of all things Transformers
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as we get the origins of any and all TF fans
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that we can. I am TF2 and Mike and joining me
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is Steve Megatron. Hello. Hello. And today's
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guest is us, folks. We're going to have a Transformers
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discussion on how we got into Transformers. Basically
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porting the origins over from the pull bag, I
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will have... a link to the original pullback
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episode where Steve and I talked about our comic
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origins. Basically what this is going to be is
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us discussing how we got into or out of Transformers,
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how we enjoyed it as kids and that kind of stuff
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and everything else. And going forward after
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this, when we actually have guests on. I have
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20 Transformer questions that we'll be asking,
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that we'll rotate. So if I ask the first question,
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Steve asks the second, and blah, blah, blah,
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blah, blah. And then we'll just have a whole
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conversation with whatever guest that we have
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on the show. So that's the plan. That's the plan
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that I had been mentioning the last couple ATTFs.
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This is going to be outside the numbers. It's
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just going to be Origins episodes. That way,
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Steve, if we have news or any other stuff that
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we want to put in the regular numbered episodes,
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we can. This is probably going to be a monthly
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feature or maybe every other month. It just depends
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on what guest we can get. Schedulings, people.
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Schedulings. Yeah, well, I'm saying, like, I
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want this to be like a specialty thing for ATTF,
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something that you guys are going to want to
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listen to. every once in a while kind of thing.
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I'm not going to sit here and say we're doing
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this every single week because we're not. I'll
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tell you that right now. I want this to be one
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of those kind of limited edition kind of things.
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But I think it's going to be fun. Some of the
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questions that I've come up with, you know, what
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Transformers generation is your generation and
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why? I laughed. Which generation is my generation?
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Well, obviously, yeah, we'll talk about that
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a little bit. But I'm just saying I'm giving
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people a preview here. One of the more interesting
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questions that I thought I came up with was number
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five. Growing up, did your friends ever pretend
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to play Transformers at, say, school recess or
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something like that? So essentially, folks, you
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know, before live action role play was actually
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called live action role play. Because I do remember
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at recess, all of my friends and I saying, oh,
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no, I'm this character. No, I'm that character.
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Another question that we have on here. Was there
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ever a moment in your life where you were through
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with everything Transformers? Because we've all
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had those moments. Yeah. Yeah. Another interesting
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one that I think is going to be a lot of fun
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for people. What is your Transformers personal
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anthem song? So whether you relate to the touch
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or dare or some other form of the music from
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any of the generations, so that kind of thing.
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So it's going to be an interesting, interesting
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thing. As I said, for us here, because we're
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doing this more discussion style than question
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and answer style. I think the earliest I remember
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was 85. I think it was 85 that I remember really
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watching Transformers. I remember having a lot
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of the toys. The sad thing is, I remember, and
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I can't believe I'm about to say this, and it's
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not because they came first, but it's because
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I was... Crazy four - and five -year -old. I
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actually was into GoBots before Transformers.
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If anyone has listened to ATTF or TFG1 or any
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of the other podcasts on GCRN over the last seven
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years, seven, almost eight years now, you'll
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know I am very anti -GoBots at this point. But
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I remember having LeaderOne, PsyKill, all that
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stuff. And what I used to do is... You remember
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those old giant metal Tonka trucks? Oh, yeah,
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I loved that stinking thing. Right. So I had
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a Tonka dump truck, and I had a Tonka backhoe
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and a Tonka crane. So I had three giant metal
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Tonka things. So I would take the GoBots and
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have them, you know, place them all over various
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things and whatever else on those. But for Transformers,
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it... 85 is probably the first I can remember
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because, I mean, I remember 84, but it wasn't
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until 85 until I hit syndication that I had really
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started to see and catch up. And I watched the
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episodes all out of order because I did not,
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I was too young to be paying attention to air
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dates. I just knew at 6 or 6 .30 in the morning
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before school, I could go into my mom's room
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or I can go into the living room and watch. 30
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minutes of Transformers before I had to dash
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out the door to catch the bus. So, yeah, I was
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five years old at that point, and you weren't
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even around yet. I wish a twink was in the eye.
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Yes. You're a little sparkling in the eye of
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your parents. Yeah, I was born in 80. Steve was
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born in 86. So, yeah. Steve came into it a little
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bit late. I would say Generation 1 is my generation,
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but over the years, I have become a fan of most,
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if not all of, with a few exceptions, of the
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US -based release Transformers generations. So,
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G1, Beast Wars, Beast Machines. animated prime
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that kind of stuff where i shy off is like rid
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and energon and cybertron and and then for me
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personally it's and people will know this because
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i've said this for years if it's not spoken in
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english i won't watch it so any of the japanese
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stuff that happened i did not watch any of that
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stuff so that's just not for me uh what was your
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first memory Of Transformers. Surprisingly, do
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you remember the UPN Power Block? Yep. Yeah,
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that was my introduction to Transformers. And
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in doing so, I got to see shows like G .I. Joe
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Extreme, Beast Wars. I can't remember. I think
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Reboot was in that block. and then they had uh
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you know it was kind of a rotating panel for
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the other one like shadow raiders or uh um there
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was another show that they had cycling in there
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um it wasn't mask it was the uh like revoltech
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or something like that something like that it
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was it had like a mask vibe to it um but uh yeah
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that was my my initial and i remember catching
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the very first episode of beast wars television
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and I was like hmm what is this because it was
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animals and I was like this is pretty cool and
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I had no real knowledge of Transformers prior
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to that but shortly thereafter I mean I caught
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episodes here or there but it wasn't really a
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staple of things to watch but my parents were
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at the time uh, going through a divorce and everything
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else. And, uh, I ended up catching on the sci
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-fi channel. Um, they had the amp animation block,
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um, that played on there. And it was kind of
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like this goofy, weird, uh, claymation thing
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that they had going with, uh, a space reel of,
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of film going on the space station and, uh, show
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transformers generation one. And I got to see
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various episodes between season one, two, and
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three. Um, And I was pretty much hooked after
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that. And so when we would go to my dad's house,
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we would watch, you know, we would go to the
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video store, rent some movies usually. And kids'
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stuff was typically free. So we went to the Transformers
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and we rented a lot of those. Rented the movie.
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Learned how to bootleg a VHS. Which is more time
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-consuming than you would think. Yeah, I remember.
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Because, you know, you have to actually rewind
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them and then play them and then hit the record
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button. Kind of like what you would do if you
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ripped a cassette to a computer. Oh, wait, I've
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done that recently. Yes. Like an audio cassette.
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Yeah. Because they don't make them on CD or MP3.
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So, yeah, I mean, I remember doing that stuff
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and watching the crap out of it. And then, you
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know, I got more hooked into Beast Wars, of course.
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And then I kind of pigeonholed from there, started
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getting the toys. And, yeah, it started with
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watching it on the UPN PowerBlock, though. And
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that was kind of the main go -to for me. Yeah,
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I... For me, it was all about Generation 1. It
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was all about... That first generation, it was
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all about Optimus, Megatron, Soundwave, Blaster,
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Jazz, Cliffjumper, Ironhide, Hound. It was all
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about that stuff. And I had... I had a lot of
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Transformers toys, but there were a lot that
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I didn't have. There's a lot I still don't have
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because I've gotten rid of them over the years.
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Well, yeah, I know, I know, but I'm saying as
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a kid, I had an amalgamation of toys. I had Castle
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Grayskull with various He -Man figures. I had
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Thundercats. I had Mask. I had... batman stuff
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i had superman stuff i had spider -man stuff
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and then i had transformers and i don't know
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why but my mom would only she only bought me
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blaster and don't get me wrong i love blaster
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and his cassettes but i mean come on soundwave
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is where it's really at people i had a soundwave
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but we went to a uh um Right around the time
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that we started getting into Transformers, we
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went to a comic shop that was local to us. It
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was about a 45 -minute drive, but my stepdad
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was like... I wouldn't say geeky, but he was
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a collector and he liked like Marvel comics and
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he liked Star Wars and he got into a little bit
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of Transformers because of us. And so we went
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out there and he would look for, you know, Marvel
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figures and some comics that he was missing for
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his collection. And we would look for Transformers
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through these like junk boxes of stuff that people
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just traded in. And of course, you know, the
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early days of the internet, we really knew what
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we were looking for. It was a lot harder to research
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back then, but we knew what we were looking for
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and what iteration it was, which was even more
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interesting. Yeah, you want to talk about early,
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you know, you want to talk about being able to
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find stuff. See, that's the thing, like, and
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again, the age difference between the two of
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us is going to come into play here, folks. We
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used the JCPenney and Sears wish books. to find
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out oh i used that for batman and ninja turtles
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so well yeah yeah but but that's what i'm saying
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is like you know we grew up in an era where like
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kids nowadays you can go on their parents can
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go online and look for any toy that they want
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i know there was there was jc pennies and sears
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and it was like uh or you go to toys r us or
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uh they had this place called like kids castle
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or kids palace or something like that at the
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time yeah up in new england we had um We had
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two competing stores and sadly one lost, obviously.
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We had Toys R Us and we had a store called Child
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World. Child World was exclusive to Massachusetts.
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They went out of business, obviously. But I always
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preferred Child World over Toys R Us. Toys R
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Us was just, it was the overpriced giraffe that
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ate everybody up. It's not even the fact that
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Toys R Us stuff was overpriced. It was just the
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fact that it was too damn big. I mean, there
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was too much stuff. I would go through and look
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at various Transformers and things like that,
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and for me, growing up as a kid in the G1 era,
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There's nothing like the G1 packagings for the
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toys. Oh, I realize that because you remember
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KB Toys? Yep. I used to go to those because we
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had one in each mall and we have two malls in
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our city. And they unfortunately had gone out
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of business. But what was fun about it this one
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particular time was I went. On this one weekend,
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and no, it was after school. That's what it was,
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because it stuck with me all these years. They
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had the entire Generation 2 line, entire, on
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an entire aisle at KB. Wow. And I'm sitting there
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looking at everything, and I'm just losing it.
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and uh i find optimus prime i find megatron i
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find you know like various combiners i start
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finding you know all different versions of everything
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and because it was like i didn't know it was
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the premiere clearance section um because we
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went back two days later there was not a transformer
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in the store and i didn't have any money on me
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i had it at home and they're like well you should
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have carried your wallet with your money in it
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And I was like, I was at school and they're like,
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yeah, I guess you're not getting it. So we went
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back two days later to buy it with, um, with
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my dad and, uh, I had my money and there was
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nothing. And I was so mad. Um, but we ended up
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going to the, that, that comic shop again and
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bought, um, we were digging through the boxes
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and this guy had like tons of this stuff, like,
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um, in, in cases and everything. And, uh, we
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were looking through it all and we, We've got
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ourselves, like, I found a pretty much complete,
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actually it was complete in pretty decent condition,
00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:24.779
of Generation 2 Optimus Prime. I found a G1 Optimus
00:17:24.779 --> 00:17:27.599
Prime that was, like, missing hands and kind
00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:32.059
of damaged. I found a Soundwave. And then I didn't
00:17:32.059 --> 00:17:33.960
really pick any other figures up because I just
00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.779
didn't care. I was going for the big shots. Right.
00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.579
My brothers went for the Bumblebee, the Constructicons,
00:17:42.579 --> 00:17:46.880
Skywarp, Thundercracker, and stuff like that.
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I didn't care. We went to Florida later in the
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next year, and I ended up getting the G2 Megatron
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for $2 at a flea market. I still have it. It's
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missing the bullets and the gun and whatnot,
00:18:04.099 --> 00:18:07.180
but I still have it. The only G2 figure I have
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because I sold all the rest of the stuff at one
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point because I went so broke I had to get rid
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of it all. Right. But I don't even have a Generation
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1, actual Generation 1 figure anymore because
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I've gotten the Generations or the Masterpiece
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because they're so much more detailed now that
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I just can't see. I mean, I understand it from
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a nostalgia and from, yes, I had this kind of
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viewpoint, but being I didn't grow up with them.
00:18:32.539 --> 00:18:35.000
It can't hold that much of an attachment to me.
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Whereas Beast Wars, it killed me to get rid of
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my Optimal Optimus recently. Among other figures,
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I still can't get rid of my Transmetal 2 Megatron
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because that was the first toy that I actually
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went out with my own money and bought, not just
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received for Christmas or my birthday. And it's
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Megatron, so it's the only Beast Wars figure
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I have. I shouldn't say that. I have the Rat
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Trap, Waspinator, and Dinobot from the Generations
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line, but soon I'll have Masterpiece Optimus
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Primal to join. I haven't subscribed to that
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one yet. I've got to see how the funds are doing.
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I'm really holding off because I have a feeling
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Megatron is down the pipe. Yeah. Um, and I'm
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really wanting a Megatron that's fully detailed.
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Um, cause I, in, in the near future, like, cause
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my, my stepdad bought and he's planning on offloading
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like a lot of his collection stuff. Um, and a
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lot of his transformers and a lot of his comics
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and a lot of that stuff. Um, just now, just because
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he doesn't want to hold onto it and has nothing
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to display it at. Um, and he bought what, what's
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funny is the original, um, Optimus Primal that
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he got. And I'm sorry for, controlling the conversation
00:19:56.299 --> 00:19:59.440
here but no it's really good um but the the original
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optimus primal that he has which is the the the
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gorilla yeah i traded it when i was younger because
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he gave me the option we we had these chore charts
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and i could get the transmittal optimus primal
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if i traded him my old optimus primal right so
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i traded him so i could get the transmittal optimus
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primal well i've since gotten rid of that too
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but He's still got my original Optimus Primal,
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which is not even comparative to the Masterpiece
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one. Yeah. As a kid, I used to... At one point,
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I got an allowance, but at another point, we
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used a token system. So, you know the generic
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red, white, and blue poker chips you can get?
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Oh, yeah. White was $1. Blue was $5. Red was
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$10. whatever various things or behaviors i did
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well or chores or whatever i could amass however
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many tokens you know like if i did you know if
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i opened the door for somebody that would be
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you know one white chip or if i wash the dishes
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without being asked or if i you know what you
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know whatever it is if i took the trash out or
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what you know whatever it was or if i cleaned
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my room i would get various chips and i could
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save them up and essentially i would you know
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find stuff whether it's in the wish books or
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whether i saw i had on tv or whatever and i would
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then go to my mom and say okay here's this many
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tokens let's go to the toy store so i can get
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Whatever it was that her monetary value to each
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of those that... I remember going through various
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toy stores as a kid, and for the longest time
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between the time I was 4 and 84 and the time
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I was 7 and 87, pretty much the whole run of
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the G1 series. It was all Transformers. I mean,
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yeah, I was still getting He -Man toys and that
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kind of stuff, but every time that I would go
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to the store, I would be looking for Transformers.
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And it wasn't until... I don't know if it's still
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there. There used to be a store up north in Massachusetts
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called Benny's. I'm sure people have heard about
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this store, but it's kind of like Big Lots, but
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it wasn't Big Lots. I don't know. In 87... Two
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of those stores in Massachusetts had, or not
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87, I should say 88, because the toys didn't
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hit until 88, in 88 had the Turtles toys. So
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by the end of 87, going into 88, I was kind of
00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.140
done with the whole Transformers thing and ready
00:22:51.140 --> 00:22:53.220
to go on to Turtles. But for me, going through
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the store and looking for Transformers, I was
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really looking for the biggest and the most expensive
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ones, even if they weren't characters that I
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did. Like, I remember getting the Constructicon
00:23:04.049 --> 00:23:08.170
gift set, but I don't think I ever made Devastator.
00:23:08.170 --> 00:23:11.569
I think I transformed the guys back and forth,
00:23:11.589 --> 00:23:13.490
back and forth, but I don't think I ever built
00:23:13.490 --> 00:23:16.750
Devastator as a kid. I mentioned earlier about
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Blaster and his cassettes. While I love those
00:23:18.769 --> 00:23:22.390
guys... As I said earlier, Soundwave was where
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it was at. So I had Blaster in his cassettes.
00:23:24.690 --> 00:23:27.970
My buddy Jonathan at the time, Jonathan Bond,
00:23:28.329 --> 00:23:36.210
had Soundwave in his cassettes. This was my best
00:23:36.210 --> 00:23:38.529
friend growing up. Old Jerk would never let me
00:23:38.529 --> 00:23:43.029
play with Soundwave. Hey, don't worry. If you
00:23:43.029 --> 00:23:45.390
were my best friend as a kid, I wouldn't have
00:23:45.390 --> 00:23:49.299
either. Because I never give up the command of
00:23:49.299 --> 00:23:56.380
my leading bots. But, no, I, like, yeah, funny
00:23:56.380 --> 00:23:58.660
you should say that, because, like, I always
00:23:58.660 --> 00:24:01.359
head -to -head the leaders. And for you, it's
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.019
a little different. Okay, so, again, behind the
00:24:04.019 --> 00:24:06.640
scenes here, folks, I'm an only child. Steve
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:09.059
has three brothers, so talk about that a little.
00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:11.839
Well, okay, yeah, there's three. Two brothers.
00:24:12.670 --> 00:24:15.029
Steve has two brothers, so talk about that a
00:24:15.029 --> 00:24:17.849
little bit. Like, how is that dynamic between
00:24:17.849 --> 00:24:21.230
you and your brothers and your all's toys? I
00:24:21.230 --> 00:24:25.730
kind of was the Megatron of the group. Meaning,
00:24:25.930 --> 00:24:28.309
I was the dictator. I told them what they could
00:24:28.309 --> 00:24:34.670
have. Which one was Starscream? Nobody. I was
00:24:34.670 --> 00:24:39.019
also Starscream. Oh, come on! You can't be both!
00:24:39.019 --> 00:24:44.859
I traded on them all. But it sometimes bit me.
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I ended up with... I had every Optimus and Megatron.
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Literally every... I would not let them have
00:24:53.019 --> 00:24:55.519
them. Same thing with Star Trek characters. I
00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.000
had the Captain Kirks. I had the Captain Picards.
00:24:58.779 --> 00:25:01.500
I did not let them have the leaders. I was the
00:25:01.500 --> 00:25:05.109
leader, always. Which was kind of a... crappy
00:25:05.109 --> 00:25:09.650
thing to do but um that's just kind of how my
00:25:09.650 --> 00:25:11.990
personality was and it's still kind of that way
00:25:11.990 --> 00:25:14.450
i have a hard time with it but i'm being humbled
00:25:14.450 --> 00:25:17.890
the more i have kids growing older um because
00:25:17.890 --> 00:25:22.230
i have to let them do that and uh kind of grow
00:25:22.230 --> 00:25:25.789
into that themselves and not be overbearing and
00:25:25.789 --> 00:25:28.970
push them over um like i did when i was a kid
00:25:28.970 --> 00:25:31.390
and it's sometimes hard to differentiate that
00:25:31.390 --> 00:25:35.170
uh when you're playing with toys And, uh, cause
00:25:35.170 --> 00:25:37.230
like even, you know, Batman, I'm always Batman
00:25:37.230 --> 00:25:39.829
and Joker. Like there's no, there's no compromise.
00:25:39.910 --> 00:25:42.650
I'm always the leader. Um, and of both sides.
00:25:43.130 --> 00:25:46.710
Um, so like my brothers, um, like Brian would
00:25:46.710 --> 00:25:50.109
have like sky, he loves sky warp and he loves
00:25:50.109 --> 00:25:52.289
sound wave. Of course I had sound waves. So he
00:25:52.289 --> 00:25:55.369
had blaster, um, which he did end up fixing his,
00:25:55.390 --> 00:25:57.329
the door never opened when we got it from that
00:25:57.329 --> 00:26:01.109
used store. And he fixed it and got it to work.
00:26:01.230 --> 00:26:07.109
But he got Skywarp. He got various other characters.
00:26:07.269 --> 00:26:10.210
He had Bumblebee. He had Hubcap. Because we also
00:26:10.210 --> 00:26:12.269
got Machine Wars figures, too, because it was
00:26:12.269 --> 00:26:17.210
a KB exclusive. And he got Sandstorm and stuff
00:26:17.210 --> 00:26:19.369
like that. And I opted, when we went Machine
00:26:19.369 --> 00:26:23.710
Wars, to get Megatron Starscream and Soundwave.
00:26:23.890 --> 00:26:28.359
I did not get any of the others. And again, Brian
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.660
got Sandstorm and Hubcap and guys like that.
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.680
And then some of the Cyberjets. And Kevin got
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:38.019
the Primes. Basically, if it wasn't Beast Wars
00:26:38.019 --> 00:26:41.779
or if it wasn't Generation 1, Kevin got the Optimus
00:26:41.779 --> 00:26:46.339
Primes. And I always... It didn't matter. I always
00:26:46.339 --> 00:26:50.099
had the Megatrons. But he got those. He'd get
00:26:50.099 --> 00:26:54.960
the Ultra Magnuses. He'd get the... He was basically
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:59.140
the only one I would let. get leader class figures
00:26:59.140 --> 00:27:03.720
of you know like um he got this if he got a megatron
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.859
it was megaplex that's what we called him like
00:27:06.859 --> 00:27:09.599
he was megatron's clone which wasn't far off
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:12.960
because the machine wars figure megaplex was
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.799
a repaint of the megatron jet and it was supposed
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:20.559
to be a clone of megatron and so when he got
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:23.740
the alligator megatron we called him megaplex
00:27:23.740 --> 00:27:27.619
because i had all the other megatrons Um, so
00:27:27.619 --> 00:27:32.660
in, in, uh, somehow captain Kirk would end up
00:27:32.660 --> 00:27:36.680
coming in and destroying them all. But, um, the,
00:27:36.859 --> 00:27:40.460
uh, yeah, I mean, so like, and then Kevin got
00:27:40.460 --> 00:27:43.460
like rampage and Brian got depth charge. I wanted
00:27:43.460 --> 00:27:45.839
both of those figures and they're like, they're
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.859
like, you have a choice. And I was like, huh?
00:27:50.059 --> 00:27:51.680
And they're like, you can either get optimal
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:56.359
optimus. and not get the other two or you can
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.099
get one of the other two and they get optimal
00:27:59.099 --> 00:28:03.339
optimus and i was like no and then so they got
00:28:03.339 --> 00:28:07.140
to have the other ones um and then because my
00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:10.460
parents were separated i was i buy whatever i
00:28:10.460 --> 00:28:13.180
didn't have at the other house at the opposite
00:28:13.180 --> 00:28:15.660
house and then i would buy the same toy again
00:28:15.660 --> 00:28:18.359
so i actually had doubles of certain figures
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.099
um because it didn't matter i could get whatever
00:28:21.099 --> 00:28:25.619
i wanted um at the opposite house So long as,
00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:29.680
you know, my money didn't run out. Exactly. But,
00:28:29.700 --> 00:28:32.799
you know, I mean, it was a struggle to play that
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:37.099
way for a while. And I was kind of a dick about
00:28:37.099 --> 00:28:43.759
it. And I regret some of it. Because, like, even
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.160
the Legos. I did that with Legos, too. I would
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:51.200
build Transformer Legos. I built a Stasis Pod.
00:28:51.299 --> 00:28:56.480
I built the Ark. I built the Axalon. Just the
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.880
command centers, not the whole shit. I had at
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:03.579
one point about 20 different Generation 1 Transformers.
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.259
They didn't transform, but until later on, I
00:29:07.259 --> 00:29:10.619
created this jet. It was actually cloned off
00:29:10.619 --> 00:29:13.720
of Brian's Starflame character he created, which
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:17.420
was supposed to be a clone of Skywarp. Much like
00:29:17.420 --> 00:29:22.480
the Starscream thing that happens later. and
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.059
animated but um i i made it actually transform
00:29:26.059 --> 00:29:29.980
and i made mine twice the size of his enough
00:29:29.980 --> 00:29:33.799
so that i had a lot of the special pieces hidden
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:38.119
inside the limbs um and i used a lot of them
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.200
on him so when i actually uh broke that figure
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.740
out about a year ago that lego transformer um
00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:47.720
i transformed it one last time for posterity's
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:52.240
sake um And then I had Ian help me disassemble
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.980
it. I have enough for two large Lego buckets.
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:01.640
And I have all the special pieces in an extra
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:06.960
large Ziploc bag. So he's set when he gets old
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:11.160
enough to play with Legos. But yeah, as far as
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.799
the Transformers though, it was... It didn't
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.019
start out with each one having leaders or having
00:30:17.019 --> 00:30:19.220
other figures, but it was still a struggle to
00:30:19.220 --> 00:30:20.720
figure out who got to play with what and who
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:24.259
got what figure. We all fought over each other's
00:30:24.259 --> 00:30:27.039
toys. I never cared for the combiners, so of
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:34.940
course they got those. I think for me, let's
00:30:34.940 --> 00:30:38.200
go into characters. Everyone should know by now.
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.380
If you've been listening to DCRN, if you've been
00:30:40.380 --> 00:30:42.779
listening to ACTF since 2008, everyone should
00:30:42.779 --> 00:30:45.380
know Steve's favorite overall character is Beast
00:30:45.380 --> 00:30:48.920
Wars Megatron. And my favorite overall number
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.740
one character is Hot Rod slash Rodimus Prime.
00:30:52.140 --> 00:30:54.839
So because we're doing this character discussion
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.640
now, we need to leave those off. And for you
00:30:57.640 --> 00:30:59.779
specifically, you can't cheat and use Starscream
00:30:59.779 --> 00:31:03.180
either because I know you love him. But besides
00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:07.920
those two, what would be your end -all, be -all?
00:31:08.349 --> 00:31:10.930
character outside of the ones that you know really
00:31:10.930 --> 00:31:14.829
are oh you mean you're saying like any megatron
00:31:14.829 --> 00:31:21.109
any because like for me it's any welker voiced
00:31:21.109 --> 00:31:25.109
megatron or david k voiced megatron but primarily
00:31:25.109 --> 00:31:28.450
the beast era megatron okay is my number one
00:31:28.450 --> 00:31:32.549
uh my number like and i break down beast wars
00:31:32.549 --> 00:31:34.410
and i break down generation one is like two different
00:31:34.410 --> 00:31:37.150
things They are two different things. Because
00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:41.609
they are. I mean, there was that whole tie -in
00:31:41.609 --> 00:31:44.789
thing, but yeah, no, they are two different things.
00:31:44.809 --> 00:31:49.490
Yeah, but I think it would be better summed up
00:31:49.490 --> 00:31:53.450
if I told you my top three on each. Okay. If
00:31:53.450 --> 00:31:57.470
I were to do Generation 1, it would be Megatron.
00:32:00.309 --> 00:32:05.410
Kind of tied with Optimus Prime. Because, like,
00:32:05.529 --> 00:32:09.569
I don't know, I got this strong affinity for
00:32:09.569 --> 00:32:13.609
both of them. Right. But I would almost say Prime
00:32:13.609 --> 00:32:16.190
is my number one and Megatron is my number two
00:32:16.190 --> 00:32:18.970
on Generation 1. With Starscream being a number
00:32:18.970 --> 00:32:21.170
three and then, like, Soundwave being number
00:32:21.170 --> 00:32:23.750
four. Or, like, if I had to choose an Autobot,
00:32:23.750 --> 00:32:27.960
it would be Ironhide. Right. I don't know why
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.119
I like Ironhide. I just like the color red, and
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.700
I like the fact that he's just kind of a southern,
00:32:32.859 --> 00:32:35.960
you know, and just kind of a smart butt. And
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:39.660
then, you know, he could almost be Prime's number
00:32:39.660 --> 00:32:46.059
two. Technically, I mean, if Jazz, in the cartoon
00:32:46.059 --> 00:32:50.519
series, if Jazz wasn't the one always, you know,
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:54.559
giving the commands from Prime, technically Ironhide
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.900
would have been the number two. For the most
00:32:57.900 --> 00:33:01.660
part. For me, outside of Hot Rod, Rodimus Prime,
00:33:01.980 --> 00:33:08.259
and outside of Soundwave, for the Decepticons,
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:14.359
I gotta go with Galvatron. G1, TFTM, and Season
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:19.220
3 Galvatron. I like... Season 3 Galvatron, a
00:33:19.220 --> 00:33:22.940
little bit more than movie Galvatron, but that's
00:33:22.940 --> 00:33:26.000
because it was so crazy. And it's Frank Welker
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:31.059
just being nuts. And it's just so fun. For the
00:33:31.059 --> 00:33:38.619
Autobots, I gotta go with Swoop. I always loved
00:33:38.619 --> 00:33:46.259
Swoop. as a kid, I always loved Michael Bell's
00:33:46.259 --> 00:33:50.339
voice for Swoop, and I just love that character.
00:33:50.619 --> 00:33:53.740
I love all the Dinobots, but if I could only
00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:56.099
pick one, it would be Swoop. Absolutely love
00:33:56.099 --> 00:34:00.319
that guy. Now, as for Beast Wars for me, I don't
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.640
know Megatron's my number one, so that's just
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.440
point taken. Optimus Primal is my number two.
00:34:07.900 --> 00:34:14.199
And I assume a wall, Flower character. Are you
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:18.320
talking about Tarantulas? No. I'm talking about
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:22.639
the one that always gets shot to shreds. Waspinator?
00:34:23.019 --> 00:34:29.780
I enjoy him, but he's not my favorite. He'd be
00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:32.159
in my top five for sure. He'd be my number five.
00:34:32.940 --> 00:34:36.659
But I would almost have to say Rat Trap would
00:34:36.659 --> 00:34:40.179
have to be my number three. Just because he's
00:34:40.179 --> 00:34:45.989
so snarky and He's sarcastic. He's belligerent.
00:34:46.889 --> 00:34:48.650
I mean, I know those all fall under the same
00:34:48.650 --> 00:34:53.329
title, but he's also, like, ingenuitive. He can
00:34:53.329 --> 00:34:57.210
figure things out. He's, you know, he's cocky,
00:34:57.210 --> 00:35:00.789
but he knows how to do his job. And then you
00:35:00.789 --> 00:35:07.550
have, I always enjoyed, I mean, I like Tarantulas
00:35:07.550 --> 00:35:14.480
as well. But I also like Tigatron. And it's just
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.099
because he was a more mature version of Cheetor.
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:22.460
And I like the color palette a lot better. Like
00:35:22.460 --> 00:35:24.699
the white and green. It just kind of fit really
00:35:24.699 --> 00:35:28.219
well. So I always liked his character. And Dinobot
00:35:28.219 --> 00:35:44.440
rules. For me, with Beast Wars, everyone should
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.239
know by now, I'm all about Cheetor and his evolution
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.860
throughout both series, Beast Wars and Beast
00:35:49.860 --> 00:35:51.960
Machines, because he essentially grows up throughout
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:58.599
both series. Besides Cheetor, on the maximal
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:08.599
side, it would probably be... Rhinox? Yeah. I
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:11.380
love Rhinox, and it has nothing to do with the
00:36:11.380 --> 00:36:14.099
low road. It has all to do with dark designs.
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:20.519
When Rhinox went bad, oh, man. He gave Megatron,
00:36:20.579 --> 00:36:23.639
what, four in dark designs. That was just awesome.
00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:26.079
No, he was, like, watching a horror movie going,
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:30.019
like, through that. Like, it's like watching
00:36:30.019 --> 00:36:33.400
Hollow Man or something. This guy's picking them
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:39.000
all off from the inside. Yep. For the Predacons...
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:43.860
I should have cheated and said Starscream. No.
00:36:44.340 --> 00:36:48.360
And Beast Wars. No. That doesn't count. It's
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:53.380
his ghost still. I gotta go with Waspinator.
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:58.420
I just... I just love the way that little bug
00:36:58.420 --> 00:37:04.659
gets squished all the time. Him and finally getting
00:37:04.659 --> 00:37:09.059
his comeuppance at the end, even though they
00:37:09.059 --> 00:37:15.960
still blast him. Out of G1 and Beast Wars, those
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.920
would be my favorites. What? Besides G1 and Beast
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:26.760
Wars, what other... have you really enjoyed over
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:31.239
the last 10 or 15 years? Really, the only one
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:37.559
I've enjoyed has been... Prime. Yeah. And again,
00:37:38.579 --> 00:37:42.679
Megatron is probably my favorite in that. I like
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:47.019
Prime, but he's not really my favorite until
00:37:47.019 --> 00:37:50.820
he gets the upgrade. Just because I think he's
00:37:50.820 --> 00:37:54.550
kind of a, I don't know, a wimp. uh up until
00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:57.090
that point once he gets like beefed up and ready
00:37:57.090 --> 00:38:00.190
to kick butt then i'm like okay he's good and
00:38:00.190 --> 00:38:06.030
then um but i i would say almost arguably arguably
00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:10.469
before that that i enjoyed that starscream rendition
00:38:10.469 --> 00:38:14.190
right uh even though it's it's different than
00:38:14.190 --> 00:38:20.250
uh than uh chris latta's But it's different in
00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:23.269
a good way because he's not imitating the original.
00:38:23.349 --> 00:38:26.130
He's got a little bit of that squeakiness in
00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:28.929
there and a little bit of that persona, but he's
00:38:28.929 --> 00:38:30.849
not trying to channel the voice to add to the
00:38:30.849 --> 00:38:36.090
persona. So I enjoy that version of Starscream
00:38:36.090 --> 00:38:38.929
a lot more. I enjoy this Megatron because he's
00:38:38.929 --> 00:38:41.369
kind of a cross between, if you mix Beast Wars
00:38:41.369 --> 00:38:46.530
and G1, that's what you get. Because unlike G1,
00:38:46.730 --> 00:38:49.929
his plans for the most part succeeded. Yeah,
00:38:49.949 --> 00:38:52.869
for the most part. Megatron and Beast Wars still
00:38:52.869 --> 00:38:56.510
rules them all for most succeeded plans. Yes.
00:38:56.769 --> 00:39:03.170
But, yeah, and then, I don't know, I kind of
00:39:03.170 --> 00:39:14.090
liked Ratchet in it. In Prime, you mean? Yeah.
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.940
Good old Ratchet in Prime. Good old Jeffrey Combs.
00:39:19.019 --> 00:39:22.760
Yeah, he was pretty awesome. As I said before,
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:27.940
I liked pretty much all the iterations, but over
00:39:27.940 --> 00:39:31.800
the last, I would say, 10, 15 years, it'd have
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:35.559
to be animated in Prime. I like RID, but RID
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:40.500
is more... It's a continuation of Prime, but
00:39:40.500 --> 00:39:44.820
it's more Transformers animated than... Yeah,
00:39:44.860 --> 00:39:49.039
it's more kiddified. And I like Rescue Bots from
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.320
what I've seen of Rescue Bots. Michael Wilson
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.900
and I have talked with Boulder. I think it was
00:39:54.900 --> 00:39:58.579
you and I. No, you and Michael Wilson. I talked
00:39:58.579 --> 00:40:02.440
to Starscream. Yeah, Michael Wilson and I talked
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:07.179
to Steve Bloom and Amari K. Williams. Amari is
00:40:07.179 --> 00:40:09.579
the voice of Boulder on Rescue Bots. I like those
00:40:09.579 --> 00:40:16.389
shows. Animated for one thing. For two things,
00:40:16.530 --> 00:40:19.809
actually. How they handled Shockwave, because
00:40:19.809 --> 00:40:21.969
that was just epic and awesome. And I remember
00:40:21.969 --> 00:40:26.050
watching the Saturday morning when Shockwave's
00:40:26.050 --> 00:40:28.750
true color... I remember literally almost falling
00:40:28.750 --> 00:40:32.909
out of bed. I like the Beast Wars knockoff episode,
00:40:33.030 --> 00:40:36.929
too, though. The Beast Wars... Oh, yeah, yeah,
00:40:37.010 --> 00:40:41.670
yeah. With Wasp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the Transwarp.
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:46.360
yeah yeah yeah trans war yeah that you know that
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:49.420
for me season three trans warped i mean hello
00:40:49.420 --> 00:40:56.659
it's judd nelson as rodimus come on now uh would
00:40:56.659 --> 00:40:59.840
you say that beast wars is the one series you
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:02.500
can go back and watch over and over again yeah
00:41:02.500 --> 00:41:04.780
that beast machines like i can go back and watch
00:41:04.780 --> 00:41:07.420
most of that of both like there's episodes i'll
00:41:07.420 --> 00:41:12.389
still skip um yeah but uh But, yeah, I mean,
00:41:12.409 --> 00:41:17.329
I predominantly love the Beast era itself. Yeah.
00:41:17.889 --> 00:41:21.789
Yeah. For me, there's, like, I could go back
00:41:21.789 --> 00:41:24.510
and watch Beast Machines all the time if I really
00:41:24.510 --> 00:41:26.969
want. I love watching Beast Machines. I just
00:41:26.969 --> 00:41:30.710
think that that show is just amazing and very
00:41:30.710 --> 00:41:34.179
well done and still holds up today. I like Beast
00:41:34.179 --> 00:41:37.199
Wars for its various comedy bits, but I can pretty
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.940
much pick and choose episodes of that. But Beast
00:41:39.940 --> 00:41:44.059
Machines, I will watch all 26 of those in a two
00:41:44.059 --> 00:41:48.980
-day span, just back to back to back. With G1,
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:54.900
again, it comes down to choosing episodes. And
00:41:54.900 --> 00:41:59.000
it just depends on which ones I want to remember
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:03.480
my childhood with. like Heavy Metal War and,
00:42:03.500 --> 00:42:10.079
you know, Search for Alpha Trion, Burden Hardest
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:12.860
to Bear, obviously, Return of Optimus Prime.
00:42:14.059 --> 00:42:17.139
When it comes to the movie, I can watch the movie
00:42:17.139 --> 00:42:21.300
on loop. You know, you were saying earlier about,
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.659
you know, recording from cassette to blah, blah,
00:42:24.739 --> 00:42:27.119
blah, and all this and all that. I remember as
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.130
a kid, I've always... You kind of know this already,
00:42:31.250 --> 00:42:35.969
but I've always been an audiophile. I'd rather
00:42:35.969 --> 00:42:40.570
listen to something than sit here and watch.
00:42:40.690 --> 00:42:42.750
It's one of the reasons why I'm not that big
00:42:42.750 --> 00:42:46.369
of a guy on, why I'm not that big on watching
00:42:46.369 --> 00:42:49.670
stuff on YouTube. If I sit here and I play it
00:42:49.670 --> 00:42:55.389
and I can just listen to it, like, if people
00:42:55.389 --> 00:42:58.440
put podcasts on YouTube, fine. I don't necessarily
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.920
have to sit there and stay on the video and watch
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.920
it. I can minimize my internet and just still
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.579
listen. So as a kid, I always wanted a cassette
00:43:09.579 --> 00:43:14.940
of the whole movie. And I just could never get
00:43:14.940 --> 00:43:17.719
it done. It's not that the tapes didn't have
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:20.940
enough memory. People in my house would never
00:43:20.940 --> 00:43:23.219
shut up long enough for me to record anything.
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.280
I remember when I first got my new computer,
00:43:30.420 --> 00:43:34.639
this was back in 2009, 2010, the computer that
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:39.900
I have now. One of the first things I did with
00:43:39.900 --> 00:43:43.619
it was I threw in the 2007 25th anniversary DVD,
00:43:44.099 --> 00:43:49.760
shut all other sounds off, hit record on Audacity
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.920
and just walked away for however long the movie
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:57.409
is. And I have to this day. I have an MP3 file
00:43:57.409 --> 00:44:03.650
of the entire film. And... Yeah, it was last
00:44:03.650 --> 00:44:08.469
Christmas. Last Christmas, my monitor decided
00:44:08.469 --> 00:44:12.869
to die on me. Yeah, I remember that. Yes. I know
00:44:12.869 --> 00:44:14.530
you know this because it ties into you getting
00:44:14.530 --> 00:44:15.949
me the new one that I got for Christmas last
00:44:15.949 --> 00:44:17.630
year. Thank you, by the way. Obviously, I've
00:44:17.630 --> 00:44:19.130
already thanked you. But it's one of those things
00:44:19.130 --> 00:44:22.960
where... I'm trying to figure out what can I
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.019
do even though I can't see anything. I still
00:44:25.019 --> 00:44:27.159
need something to do, something to listen to.
00:44:27.300 --> 00:44:29.900
And I don't remember if I had iTunes open or
00:44:29.900 --> 00:44:34.519
not. So my old monitor at the time, I could only
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.380
leave it on for five seconds before the screen
00:44:37.380 --> 00:44:41.099
would just go black. So I would have to keep
00:44:41.099 --> 00:44:42.699
turning it on, turning it off, turning it on,
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.599
turning it off. I eventually got to a point where
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.500
I could just open. tftm full movie audio clip
00:44:49.500 --> 00:44:55.579
in windows media player i had that on repeat
00:44:55.579 --> 00:44:59.519
and i just ended up tweeting outlines from the
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:07.119
movie that whole day on twitter i just love i
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.960
just love transformers the movie it's the single
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.920
greatest thing g1 ever had it really really is
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.380
And I can't wait until Shout Factory puts that
00:45:17.380 --> 00:45:20.099
30th anniversary release out. That's going to
00:45:20.099 --> 00:45:22.019
be so awesome to see what they've done with that.
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:30.280
Was there ever a point where you decided to leave
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:33.500
Transformers, where you just wanted to do other
00:45:33.500 --> 00:45:36.239
things or just didn't really? Not that really
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.440
that you lost interest, but you just would rather
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:44.239
do other stuff. I lost interest about 2002. And
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:50.760
then I came back to it in 2004. It was very brief.
00:45:52.539 --> 00:45:54.460
Because I started messing with the site again
00:45:54.460 --> 00:46:01.119
while I was at school. And it kind of pigeonholed
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.159
into the 2005 starting of the voice acting on
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:08.619
TFCOG as Scourge and the Headmasters Project,
00:46:08.820 --> 00:46:13.360
which I'm still coincidentally doing. as they
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.559
produce new episodes which it takes them a while
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.400
because it's like two guys doing all the work
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:21.260
so um right they they have audio files from like
00:46:21.260 --> 00:46:22.860
a year and a half ago that i recorded and i'm
00:46:22.860 --> 00:46:26.480
like oh it's still working um because like i
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.619
i'm we're on episode like nine or something now
00:46:28.619 --> 00:46:31.480
i'm headmasters i don't know how far scourge
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.239
goes but you know there's eventually i'll get
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.590
another role but once he disappears but It's
00:46:37.590 --> 00:46:40.829
been fun. That's actually how I learned how to
00:46:40.829 --> 00:46:42.929
do a proper Megatron was by doing a Scourge.
00:46:44.309 --> 00:46:48.889
It shot off from that. The deep part is where
00:46:48.889 --> 00:46:57.429
that came from. I did that and then did the podcast
00:46:57.429 --> 00:47:04.010
and then I kind of had this down period between
00:47:06.130 --> 00:47:08.190
Well, not even really a down period. I think
00:47:08.190 --> 00:47:10.329
I kind of fell out of it a little bit when we
00:47:10.329 --> 00:47:12.329
started doing Geekcast Radio because we stopped
00:47:12.329 --> 00:47:16.530
really doing the other stuff. I stopped doing
00:47:16.530 --> 00:47:18.449
my Transformers side. I stopped doing a lot of
00:47:18.449 --> 00:47:19.929
the extra stuff. I stopped doing a lot of the
00:47:19.929 --> 00:47:22.550
voice acting. I was doing some stuff here or
00:47:22.550 --> 00:47:26.230
there. And then I did part of the Beast Wars
00:47:26.230 --> 00:47:31.750
Dark Class, which is on a weird hiatus. I won't
00:47:31.750 --> 00:47:36.860
get into that here. I don't know. It's kind of
00:47:36.860 --> 00:47:39.460
come and gone, but whenever it's to do with the
00:47:39.460 --> 00:47:41.780
movie, I just don't care anymore. Or whenever
00:47:41.780 --> 00:47:45.400
it comes to the news, I kind of dodge it anymore
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:51.099
because I find that it irritates me. Predominantly,
00:47:51.099 --> 00:47:53.420
I like it, but I haven't really gone back to
00:47:53.420 --> 00:47:55.219
watch any of it since we've done a lot of the
00:47:55.219 --> 00:47:57.760
podcasts. I've gone back to watch Beast Wars
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.079
and Beast Machines and TFTM and some other stuff
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.230
like that. I haven't really gone back to... I
00:48:05.230 --> 00:48:07.949
mean, I've watched RID and Prime and stuff as
00:48:07.949 --> 00:48:11.489
it's aired, but I don't go out of my way to watch
00:48:11.489 --> 00:48:14.610
anything with it anymore because I don't want
00:48:14.610 --> 00:48:22.829
to burn it out. Yeah, yeah. For me, I'd say there's
00:48:22.829 --> 00:48:29.309
probably about a period of... Is it really that
00:48:29.309 --> 00:48:35.760
long? No, it can't be that long. I want to say,
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:41.599
yeah. I mean, I caught Beast Wars as it aired
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:44.000
here and there, and I've told this little nugget
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.360
over the last seven, eight years. I always got
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:50.039
Beast Wars and Reboot mixed up. I thought Reboot
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.320
was the Transformers series and Beast Wars was
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.079
something else. I didn't know what the hell.
00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.199
1996, I wasn't really paying attention. So I'd
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:04.460
say the last time I really paid attention to
00:49:04.460 --> 00:49:11.840
Transformers and that kind of stuff was probably
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:16.019
1990. And I picked it back up again, I think.
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:22.199
2006? So that would be... Yeah, I was out of
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:26.760
it for 16 years. It's not that I didn't care
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:30.579
anymore. It's just that there was no cartoon
00:49:30.579 --> 00:49:33.960
between... I mean, there's G2, but... Gee, I'm
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:37.300
sorry. Anyone that loves G2, I'm sorry. If you
00:49:37.300 --> 00:49:40.000
disagree with this, then that's fine. G2 is nothing
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:44.260
but recycled G1 episodes. That's all it is. In
00:49:44.260 --> 00:49:47.159
the magic of the cybernetic space cube, which
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:51.059
is the stupidest MacGuffin ever, besides the
00:49:51.059 --> 00:49:56.320
Matrix of Leadership. So there was no new cartoon
00:49:56.320 --> 00:50:00.139
between the end of G187 to the beginning of Beast
00:50:00.139 --> 00:50:04.340
Wars in 96. I moved on to other stuff. We had
00:50:04.340 --> 00:50:08.980
Disney Afternoon, we had Turtles, we had Batman
00:50:08.980 --> 00:50:11.639
the Animated Series, Spider -Man, Iron Man, X
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:16.420
-Men, all that stuff. I moved on. I picked it
00:50:16.420 --> 00:50:22.219
back up 10 years ago, 2006, because BotCon was
00:50:22.219 --> 00:50:24.159
going to be here in Lexington, Kentucky, an hour
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.360
and a half away from where I live. And I kind
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.659
of got back into it, and at the time I had a...
00:50:30.090 --> 00:50:33.690
Decent paying job and had a bunch of extra money,
00:50:33.789 --> 00:50:36.550
so I figured, hey, I'm going to get my childhood
00:50:36.550 --> 00:50:41.690
back. I spent over $3 ,000 in total, not all
00:50:41.690 --> 00:50:45.829
at once, but in total on getting toys back that
00:50:45.829 --> 00:50:49.829
I had as a kid. I bought an Optimus Prime for
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$125. I got the 2008 BotCon set plus all the
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souvenir stuff for like $850, $900. I spent,
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I think, $130 each on several Transformers. I
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know that I spent, I don't know why, but at the
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time I spent $300 and something on a Blaster
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for some odd reason. Yeah, this is years. I remember
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some of it. Yeah, I've got tons of pictures.
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They're still out there online somewhere of all
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my toys that I have. That's how I own a lot of
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my stuff is vicariously through an image. Yeah.
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I mean, and for me, you know, I still love Transformers
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to this day. I love various iterations of it.
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I'm not one of these people that you'll see on
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certain Transformers message boards and forums
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where, gee, what is the best? There's nothing
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other than, no. I've come to the point where
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each generation is its own thing. Is there generations
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that I flat out refuse to even acknowledge? Sure.
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But I'm to the point now at 36, almost 37 years
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old, where I don't want to have an argument on
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an online forum with somebody debating which
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is better. You like what you like, I like what
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I like, and you like what you don't like, and
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I don't like what I don't like. You know, that's
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really all there is to it. Can we sit here and
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have an intelligent, interesting, fun discussion
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on what we do like? Sure. Are we going to agree
00:52:28.619 --> 00:52:30.599
to disagree on what we do or what we don't like?
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Sure. That's fine. But there's so many people
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online on specific, that I won't name, forums
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that are just so anally focused on this is the
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best no matter what, blah, blah, blah. You know,
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and I just, I don't have time for that. To quote
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Ultra Magnus, I don't have time for that anymore.
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So I think we can kind of wrap this up. What
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are you, in any medium, over the next 10 years,
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What is the one thing you want to see Hasbro
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:28.460
and whoever else do with Transformers? You want
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a Beast Wars movie, I know what you're going
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:36.679
to say. No. No. Leave it alone. Because you know
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:42.500
it'll happen. We'll get like a bad Godzilla movie
00:53:42.500 --> 00:53:44.820
mixed with the Michael Bay film and that's what
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it's going to look like. Pacific Rim. Sorry.
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But, no, they can leave Beast Wars the heck alone.
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No, I'd like... I don't know. I mean, I don't
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really have a problem with any of the stuff they
00:53:57.420 --> 00:53:59.179
got going on. Like, I play the Earth Wars game
00:53:59.179 --> 00:54:04.239
a little bit too much. And I'm mobile to the
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:08.360
point I irritate people. It irritates me. I kind
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.139
of wish I never started playing because now it's
00:54:10.139 --> 00:54:13.179
addictive and I'm, like, wrapped up in the stupid
00:54:13.179 --> 00:54:17.869
game. The only thing that it's... And this is
00:54:17.869 --> 00:54:20.710
a side note. It gets irritating because if you
00:54:20.710 --> 00:54:24.849
don't have the time to play a lot during the
00:54:24.849 --> 00:54:31.130
weekend event things that they got, and it takes
00:54:31.130 --> 00:54:34.349
forever to build these stupid points. You might
00:54:34.349 --> 00:54:38.670
get 50 points a round, and you have to get 60
00:54:38.670 --> 00:54:42.170
,000 points to get a 4 -star Galvatron or a 4
00:54:42.170 --> 00:54:47.639
-star whatever. And it's just irritating. Cause
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:50.559
there's no way that I'll stop generally when
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:52.480
I get like the first three rewards, which will
00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:55.960
be about 500 or something. And I'm like, yeah,
00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:57.639
I'm not going to hit 60 ,000. So I just quit
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.000
playing. And then I go back to trying to earn
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:06.360
money to build my base. And so, I mean, I don't
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:07.599
have a problem with that. I don't have a problem
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:09.599
with like, I've loved their devastation game.
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.079
I've loved the, you know, a lot of the games
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.059
they've come out with a lot of the storylines.
00:55:15.099 --> 00:55:18.519
I haven't really, i don't know i'd like to see
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:20.380
them kind of do a continuation maybe do like
00:55:20.380 --> 00:55:27.179
a machine wars yeah um just because i like the
00:55:27.179 --> 00:55:29.940
the the toys and i think that it had potential
00:55:29.940 --> 00:55:33.820
um and it would be a good bridge to kind of tie
00:55:33.820 --> 00:55:39.460
in the other transformers universes um but like
00:55:39.460 --> 00:55:45.909
again that being said i I would like to see mostly,
00:55:46.050 --> 00:55:49.190
like, more Masterpiece Beast Wars and Beast Machines
00:55:49.190 --> 00:55:55.170
figures. Yeah. I think at this point the dream
00:55:55.170 --> 00:55:57.389
for Masterpiece when it comes to the Beast era,
00:55:57.750 --> 00:56:02.269
Beast Machines Megatron. Beast Machines Megatron
00:56:02.269 --> 00:56:04.650
is definitely in that list, but I want to see,
00:56:04.710 --> 00:56:07.650
like, all of the main cast. Because, like, it's
00:56:07.650 --> 00:56:10.730
a lot smaller cast than Generation 1. Yeah. So
00:56:10.730 --> 00:56:12.409
it would be a lot easier for them to do anyway.
00:56:13.050 --> 00:56:15.780
Mm -hmm. I would like to see that, and then maybe
00:56:15.780 --> 00:56:18.340
in their Titans Return thing, maybe having some
00:56:18.340 --> 00:56:22.699
of the Beast Wars figures involved that haven't
00:56:22.699 --> 00:56:24.739
had a decent figure. But if they're going to
00:56:24.739 --> 00:56:26.739
do them as Masterpiece anyway, then why not just
00:56:26.739 --> 00:56:29.920
skip to that point and not buy it? But yeah,
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:35.840
that's kind of the realm I'm in at this point,
00:56:35.900 --> 00:56:40.659
is really hoping for a lot of that. Yeah, for
00:56:40.659 --> 00:56:43.889
me... I don't know what to expect anymore. I
00:56:43.889 --> 00:56:48.710
know Machinima has that YouTube series they're
00:56:48.710 --> 00:56:52.090
going to be doing. They're still doing it. I
00:56:52.090 --> 00:56:57.469
know. It's okay. I don't mind the voicing. Some
00:56:57.469 --> 00:57:00.130
of it's bad. I hate the five minute episode thing.
00:57:01.489 --> 00:57:07.710
It's clickbait. I am happy for John Bailey who
00:57:07.710 --> 00:57:09.929
got to finally play Optimus Prime legitimately.
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.420
Yeah. And he does a really good job for, you
00:57:14.420 --> 00:57:15.980
know, if they're going to pass the torch to somebody,
00:57:16.179 --> 00:57:20.679
it's only deserving that he gets it. The Megatron,
00:57:20.699 --> 00:57:22.760
I'm kind of so -so. They gave a lot of the roles
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:24.960
to, like, internet celebrity people or YouTubers
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:29.079
and, you know, stuff like that, which I get it.
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:31.900
But at the same time, like, none of them are
00:57:31.900 --> 00:57:35.119
really doing any justice to the characters. Starscream
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:38.780
sounds like some kind of a weird weasel, because
00:57:38.780 --> 00:57:42.360
they're trying to do a toned -down Chris Lotta,
00:57:42.420 --> 00:57:46.079
and it's just not good. Yeah. I remember when
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:48.079
Michael and I, I was saying this earlier, when
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:51.300
we talked to Steve Bloom, one of the questions
00:57:51.300 --> 00:57:57.699
we asked him was, did they ever want you to go
00:57:57.699 --> 00:58:02.400
Lotta? Like, did they ever want you to get that
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:06.739
hysterical? And his answer was, anytime they
00:58:06.739 --> 00:58:09.539
let me do it, they would use jazz hands as a
00:58:09.539 --> 00:58:18.309
signal. For me, what I want to see out of Transformers,
00:58:18.329 --> 00:58:20.809
I need to get back into the comics. I'm so proud
00:58:20.809 --> 00:58:23.969
of the ICW comics. I did really, really enjoy
00:58:23.969 --> 00:58:27.650
them. And we've done, I think, over nine hours
00:58:27.650 --> 00:58:31.329
of Transformers comic reviews over in the pull
00:58:31.329 --> 00:58:33.909
bag. So I'm going to be getting back into those
00:58:33.909 --> 00:58:37.610
next year and catching up. I do remember reading
00:58:37.610 --> 00:58:40.369
the Combiner Wars event that they had. I think
00:58:40.369 --> 00:58:43.369
it was earlier. This year, earlier last year,
00:58:43.409 --> 00:58:45.690
I forget when it was. But I did really enjoy
00:58:45.690 --> 00:58:49.969
that. I thought that was really fun. I like RID
00:58:49.969 --> 00:58:55.889
and I'll watch RID Season 2 when it's fully online
00:58:55.889 --> 00:59:01.050
or when it's fully released. I'm so beyond the
00:59:01.050 --> 00:59:05.389
point of watching while it airs. I just would
00:59:05.389 --> 00:59:09.590
rather sit here and marathon a cartoon than have
00:59:09.590 --> 00:59:18.789
to wait. and watch, you know, as it airs. I have
00:59:18.789 --> 00:59:24.110
a small, a very tiny sliver, shred of hope for
00:59:24.110 --> 00:59:32.389
some of the movie stuff. Some, not all. I'm sorry,
00:59:32.530 --> 00:59:36.869
that hot rod design is just, that robot design
00:59:36.869 --> 00:59:44.789
is bleh. So, yeah, folks, that's going to do
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it for this All Things Transformers Origins episode
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with Steve and I. We will be having guests on
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in the future, and it's going to be a fun time
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peace. No need for violence, Rhinox. I merely
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wish to talk. Go ahead. It's a free planet. I'm
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busy. Stubborn maximal fool! He'll soon regret
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this impertinence.
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