Origins of BeatlesDiva on Transformers Fandom

Hi, this is Gary Chalk and you're listening to

the Geekcast Radio Network. This is going to

be juicy. Hello and welcome to All Things Transformers.

We are back with another Origins episode. Yes,

Steve Megatron has been doing regular episodes

of ATTF, but ITFU and Mike have not been able

to do an Origins episode in a while. The last

one we did was the second of the three -part

female Fembot thing we're doing here on ATTF

Origins. First was Haji Prime. I'm a thing? It's

not a... thing oh god yes you're yes you're you're

a thing you were you know created out in space

by dr. doom nice yeah exactly so didn't even

bend a fender The whole point here, folks, was

a trifecta of Fembots. We had Hahi Prime first,

we had Lady Rex second, and because I don't know

why, Nicole ended up being third, but here is...

Save the best for last! Uh -huh. Mm -hmm. Yeah.

I think it's because y 'all are Decepticon haters,

and, you know, you guys couldn't take the awesomeness

that is me. Uh -huh. It's not our fault that

you're in love with Rio Pachinko. Gem dances

like an angel, doesn't she? Angel indeed. Gem?

Two? The results? I'll tell you what it is, it's

pissing me off! Oh, Rio, he has a bigger vagina

than all three of us combined. It's not our fault

you're in love with cartoon Rio So we're here

as always we've got 20 questions to ask miss

Nicole over there miss Beatles diva and some

of these are going to get pretty dicey later

on because um... we're going to basically i'm

basically going to rung her out i'm going to

put her on this the psychologist couch and figure

out why exactly she has such an obsession over

cyclonus of all characters uh... and then you're

going to hear something i don't think i know

you said this to me off air but i don't think

I don't remember if, I hope you have not said

this anywhere else because this would be a huge

exclusive. She's going to tell us exactly why

certain things online have almost made her step

away from certain parts of her favorite character.

So there is that. Question number one. I also

forgot about that. Like I said, I've been up

already for 14 hours. It could get interesting.

Oh yeah. Hey, hey, it's after midnight. So, you

know anything can happen after midnight. I'm

like a gremlin It's always after midnight, that's

right Alright question number one Obviously,

this is mostly for the listeners then for you

because obviously you did some people didn't

Did you grow up with transformers? And at what

age do you remember first noticing the franchise?

If you knew my age, you knew I was there from

the beginning, back in 84. You're 26, right?

You're too young. Sure, but I'm a fine traveler.

No, I grew, I was the perfect age when Transformers

came out. I was seven turning eight, and I remember,

I don't... Remember exactly the first thing I

saw but I remember I loved ponies at the time

I loved horses and of course my little pony was

big too and They had my little pony cartoon and

transformers was After it, so I was just like,

okay I'll stick around watch this and then they

had gem after that and then they had GI Joe's

so for two hours I stayed out of my mother's

hair And that made her happy So yeah, so I was

there from the very start. What is your Transformers

generation and why? Well, like I just said, I

grew up G1. So I grew up with that. That doesn't

mean that I'm a total G1er. I enjoy a lot of

different aspects of Transformers. But yeah,

I grew up with G1. So what other generations

of transformers do you like what ones are you

most in tune with and all that good stuff? I

actually could find joy in all of them even even

the unicorn trilogy. I do find a little bit of

joy in that See the Starscream story was pretty

good, you know, especially when he was making

fun that he's like I look like Thundercracker

I love animated. I love the Prime series. I did

not like the Beast Wars series to begin with,

but I fell in love with it because the story

was amazing. And yeah, I can't really pinpoint

my favorite, but if I had to, I'd say animated.

It was probably my favorite. Yeah. Very cool.

What was your very first Transformers toy as

a kid, if you had them as a kid? Oh, I had them

as a kid. Yes, I did. And this is the reason

why I love this character and I'm probably the

only person, well, there's probably a handful

of us out there. G1 Beachcomber. No! I'm not

laughing because it's Beachcomber. I'm laughing

because his best episode was the Golden Lagoon.

Of course, it is his signature episode. Exactly.

And it's awesome. No, it's not possible. They

found the Golden Lagoon. I just think it's funny

that, no. Beachcomber is supposed to be like

this pacifist, this hippie kind of dude, and

yet he has one of the biggest weapons of all

the Transformers. Yep. Absolutely. I love Beachcomber.

He's such a lovable guy. Yeah, he needs to make

a comeback. He just needs to get a surfboard

and enjoy life. Oh, God. Okay, so question five

is a little strange. I always have to preface

this because When I was a kid and I'm sure when

you were a kid it was just called, you know Pretending

or make -believe or something. It wasn't this

Term that everyone calls it now live -action

role -play. No It's make -believe or pretend.

There's a huge difference, like, no, oh god.

You know what I used to call it? Playing with

my friends. Exactly, exactly. So the question

is, growing up, did you and your friends ever

pretend to play Transformers, say at school or

something that, you know, somebody had shout

out, I'm going to be this character, or I'm going

to be that character, or whatever. Oh yeah, oh

yeah, we had a really good neighborhood for kids

growing up. very, very, very small town in the

middle of nowhere. So we had to get creative.

Uh, we didn't have a movie theater in my town.

We didn't have, we didn't even have McDonald's

in my town. We didn't, we, so there was a bunch

of kids my age and yeah, especially during the

summers. I remember during the summers we used

to play different things. I remember playing

as G .I. Joe characters and playing Transformers

and pretty much anything that was the cartoons

at the time. And I remember even the monkeys

were a big thing. You know, they did the reboot

with Nick at night then. And me and my friends

loved the monkeys. And I remember one time we

pretended like a transformer was the monkey's

car. So the monkey mobile was a transformer.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we definitely. I mean, there

was probably who about eight to ten of us boys

and girls that would just play around the whole

neighborhood and yeah run amok mm -hmm yep run

amok and run about all right number six here's

where we put Nicole on the couch because Who

is your end -all, be -all favorite character

from any Transformers incarnation? Basically,

Megatron puts his fusion cannon to your head

and says choose. You can choose one Decepticon

and one Autobot. Okay, I think you'll be very

surprised with my answer. But, you know, I'm

a die -hard Decepticon fan, so it's really, really

weird for me to say this, but G1 Bumblebee is

my absolute favorite. I mean I even had a, my

very first car was a 1974 bright yellow Volkswagen

Beetle. I loved Bumblebee and I still love G1

Bumblebee today. Beck, I'm better than ever!

Look at this new paint job! I've gone beyond

being just plain old Bumblebee, I'm a gold bug!

And the evil side, please? Ah, you're gonna be

surprised with this. Uh, I'm gonna say Knockout.

Now will you believe I'm joining the winning

team? Knockout! We needed that! What the? You're

ruining this! Yes, he is! In G1, he is! You didn't

say G1 you said my absolute favorite now in the

comic books Cyclonus says he is not a Decepticon

and he is not an Autobot. He is unaligned You're

just trying to circumvent the rules here Okay,

so why why is why is knockout your yeah? He is

so oh His comebacks and his lines are my favorite

things in all of transformers. He I mean just

what he he walks into the room he's like doctor

in the house like pay attention to me or what

are my favorite lines you know he always gets

scratched up and he's like buff this and i love

it he has some of the best lines i love it yeah

knockout is awesome voiced by darren norris what

shocks me about knockout is the fact that it's

the voice of cosmo from the fairly odd parents

as this diva decepticon See I twisted the rules

for you. I was trying to keep you on your toes

but I do have a Big part of my heart goes to

cyclonus. Okay, so I always joke with Nicole

that basically if Cyclonus ever had a human avatar,

which he actually does in IDW's More Than Meets

the Eye, but we'll talk about that in a minute,

if he ever had one, it would basically be Rio

Patenko from GEM. Cartoon Rio from GEM would

be Cyclotus's. You're wrong, because Cyclonus

has a personality. it's only cuz real is purple

hair it's the only reason why i said hello uh...

okay so horrible heeheehee gotta keep you on

your toes somehow uh... alright so to refresh

your memory and to let the listeners in on a

little bit of behind the scenes stuff you had

told me at one point when we were talking about

doing this episode That certain things online

certain fanfics and other things have almost

turned you off to cyclones You what cuz I I've

actually you know, I've taken break from a lot

of online stuff It's been a wonderful break.

Um, yeah, I mean This is a character of grown

into love and the way that people I mean, and

everyone has the right to imagine the character

as they want, but when they're forcing him into

different situations and I'm like, that's not

really him, but okay. But that's also my right

to say that's not my character, but hey, if that's

how you picture it, that's fine. It just got

a little out of control. Some of the artwork,

I'm like, man, there's a lot of lonely people

out there. Wow. And then there was the time that

you almost basically threatened James Roberts

if he was going to kill Cyclonus. Well, I threaten

James Roberts all the time. No, I really wouldn't

hurt James. James is a lovely man. Obviously,

yeah. Now, Alex Mullen on the other hand. That's

all I'm saying. Mr. 50 Shades. Alright. Okay,

so besides Cyclonus, Knockout, and Bumblebee,

what are some of the other Transformers characters

that you like? Man, when I got to this question,

I'm like... Man, there's a... here okay let me

let me just go through the list um swerve love

idw swerve he's he's the four you know he's like

the pinky pie of transformers he breaks that

fourth wall and uh i love rescue bots blades

uh beast wars inferno uh yes my queen uh whenever

he called megatron queen just i loved it yes

my queen I wish you wouldn't call me that. Skybite.

Love Skybite. Let's see. Beachcomber. I just

said Beachcomber. I'm like one of the few people

that love Beachcomber. Sure. Lockdown. When he

came in and animated and then he's probably the

best thing and one of the best things in the

live action movies. Prime RC, her character was

amazing because she stood out as a major leader

and she got things done. Animated shockwave,

oh my gosh, sinister, sinister animated shockwave,

my gosh. When that episode with Blur happened,

you're just like, what, what, what? That just

did not happen, you know? I've told this story

before, this is gonna be quick, because this

is supposed to be more about her than it is about

me, folks, but... I was... I finally had come

around to animated by the time season 3 happened,

and it was Saturday morning or whatever, whenever

cartoons used to actually air on television and

not on streaming services or all the time, but

anyway, I literally almost fell off my bed the

episode when Longarm did the color change. It

was the real colors. It was not this gray crap.

It was the actual per. I'm like, oh my god, and

then the dude spoke and I'm like, holy shit,

it's Cory Burton. Uh huh. An animated shockwave

is amazing. Oh my gosh. Let's see IDW Pharma.

I love these sinister characters. Pharma is true

evil. I'm not kidding. One of my favorite panels

when people say that transformers are you know

it's it's not for adults I'm like you go Google

IDW transformers and the word lengthways yep

you will see that is not a child's game it's

not for kids oh that I remember reading that

issue and I'm like this guy's insane oh my gosh

is pharma is oh I love it and then I'm I have

to mention this because I'm one of the few people

that have probably... They'll probably admit

to this. Angry Birds Galvatron. I love the IDW

Angry Birds Transformers. It's so funny. It is,

yeah. Oh my gosh. But, you know, I got a whole

list of, of course Starscream. I'm a Starscream

fangirl. You know? Why? There's all the different

incarnations of him. I don't know. He's just

like the character that you love to hate That's

true, oh my gosh that could go on and on but

it's mostly Decepticons Don't get me wrong. I

do like some Autobots, but mm -hmm sure you do

Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, the mainstream ones,

the ones everybody's gonna know. I'm not a huge

fan of Optimus. Don't get me wrong, he's a great

leader in everything, but you know exactly where

he stands most of the time. Okay, most of the

time, especially the G1 cartoon. You're like,

I know exactly where you stand. And that's why

I like the Decepticons, because you're just like,

okay. Who are you? What are you going to do?

What's your story? And yeah. So on the flip side

of that, are there any Transformers characters

you actually hate? Yes. There is one. I absolutely

despise. I can't stand this guy. And he needs

to be fried up on a Cybertronian version of KFC.

I hate Skylinks. Really? I hate him. with a burning

passion every everything about that character

drives me nuts i hate skylar i do not know why

he's such a fan favorite oh i hate him so annoying

he's like look what i did i did that that was

me oh you can't handle anything because i need

to do it for you it's all about me and everyone's

and i'm like and everyone when people are like

oh but he's just a fun character i'm like you

date someone like it You will understand. He

is horrible. I hate him. I hate his robot mode.

I hate his alt mode. So I assume you dated somebody

like Skylinks at one point or another. I dated

a guy and it's just, I don't know why. And anytime

like he, we would go out and he's like, yeah,

that's what I did. I did that for you. that's

I did that you know you we got this done because

I did it I'm just like I could have done it myself

but gal go away I think the best thing that skylinks

ever did was the narration in in not burden artist

to bear five faces five faces of darkness the

plague episode yeah Return of Optimus Prime,

that's what it is. It was Autobot against Autobot

and Decepticon against Decepticon. I'm like,

oh my god, shut up. No, I can't even, I can't

even, no, no. There's nothing you can do that

can make me like that character unless he is

set on fire. Is he the only one you don't like?

Yeah, he's the only one that I truly despise.

Okay. Over your lifetime as you got older does

your interest in the Transformers franchise grow

stronger or get weaker? since the beginning,

like I said. It faded out a little bit because

after G1 went away and they started to get into

the Beast era, I'm just like, I like this other

little franchise called Ninja Turtles. So I really

got into Ninja Turtles at one point. And yeah,

but then I heard... the rumors that they were

going to be doing a movie. And I'm like, oh,

you what? I remember I really loved Transformers.

So I started getting back into reading stuff

and collecting toys. And it was like it was like

two years before the movie when I started really

getting back into it. Of course, when the 2007

movie hit, you know. Everything was out there

and I'm just like, oh, this is amazing, you know

Sorry, and while I started to get back into the

community You know a couple years beforehand,

you know just to see what was out there. So So

for a few minutes it kind of faded away a little

bit but not a whole lot because I was at first

I was one of those people Oh Chuck not monkey,

you know, I'm like I'm like, why would they turn

into animals? You know, and like I said, I really

wish I would have given it a shot because Vsauce

is really well written yeah it is um... what

was i going to say i was going to say something

uh... yeah so you basically returned in the year

two thousand five was there ever a moment in

your life that you were just completely done

like not stepped away but just not just stepped

away for a moment but just like i need something

else i'm done with this for however long No,

because, um, the community was always there.

I've always loved the community. And so I always

heard people talking about, about Transformers

stuff. So no, um, like I said, there was some

times I was just like, you know, I got into other

things, but it was always there. I was always

reading the comics or I've always been watching

what was on TV, you know, or when the movie,

I mean, we had movies come out like every other

year, you know, or every three years. And so

it's always been there. But I've never totally

gotten away from it, uh -uh. Very cool. With

the internet giving birth to anything, but the

fans all having a voice, and what they like or

don't like about Transformers, do you find your

voice gets lost in the shuffle, or do you just

shout louder? See, I was thinking about this,

and I'm like, I don't think my voice gets lost.

I wouldn't say it's as strong as it used to be,

but that's not a bad thing. Back when the internet

was fairly new, I was guest hosting on a lot

of Transformers podcasts because they wanted

a female perspective and there wasn't many female

fans out there in the community saying, hey,

look at me. And so I was on, my voice was pretty

strong there for a minute. uh for a while um

but as the fan fandom grew you know and uh i

i kind of got a little bit quieter um but i i

love that there's a lot more ladies out there

that are voicing their opinions and i think it's

great you know um david wallace actually posted

up on my facebook page he's like well yeah you

were the first uh girl that was I first female

that was actually voiced on a transformers podcast.

I'm like, I didn't realize that, but I guess

it's true. I'll take David's word for it. Very

cool. So this can be anything. I only put the

example on this question just so people see what

the example is. What is your Transformers personal

anthem song and why? The example is Stan Bush's

The Touch or Dare or anything from Vince Da Cola

or it doesn't really matter like but what is

your personal anthem song from Transformers?

Oh man see out of all the questions I think this

is probably the hardest. Because well, it was

almost a year ago. He even retweeted it. It pretty

much was, yeah. Yeah. I did a whole podcast on

music and Transformers, you know, and there's

so many songs I love. I love Roll Out by Miracle

of Sound. Hallelujah by Be Ba Boo Bombers, I

think that's what they're called. And of course,

the Steve Jablonski soundtrack, The Scorper Knock

and The Rival to Earth. They're both classics.

Um, but, you know, I was listening to some music

today. I'm just, I still have the thing for the

menace or song from the devastation game soundtrack.

Um, heavy metal, it's heavy metal and, uh, a

choir. put together so you got this classical

music and heavy metal together and it's two things

that I really love and I love it when they mash

them together and it just comes together with

that heavy beat and the guitar and these beautiful

voices powerful voices in the background it's

well it's because I was a metalhead and I studied

opera so so it actually speaks to me so it's

one of those songs that's kind of hard to find,

but you can find it on YouTube. But it's not

one that's probably out there, but I mean, there's

so many good songs. Yeah, so I will say that

for right now. How often do you go back and re

-watch any of the Transformers cartoons? I'm

usually watching something Transformer related,

usually. Like right now, I've been watching Prime.

I've been rewatching Prime. Oh my gosh, Ratchet's

amazing. He's the Wambulance! With the episode

where he gets juiced up on Synth and Johnny,

he hits on R .C. How's it hummin'? Did he just?

Stronger, faster, studlier. And she's like, what

was that? What did you just say? Oh my gosh.

And the scraplets, gah. Oh, scraplets. Funniest

thing about that is Kevin Michael Richardson

has bulkhead. He's basically high -pitched girl

scream. Oh my gosh. It's so good. Yeah, Prime

is awesome. Okay. Let's see. We all love Transformers

comics. Which incarnation do you love and why?

Oh, wow. Wow. That's another hard one. I've been

reading the comics for years now. So it's just

like, it has its ups and downs, that's for sure.

I've mostly loved the new stuff from IDW with

the reboot with Death of Optimus Prime. So the

phase two, I guess that would be the phase two

of IDW. But if I had to pinpoint one thing, you

probably know what I'm going to say. It's the

one shot with the crossover from Mars Attacks.

Of course, Mars Attacks. That is to me almost

the most perfect comic because, oh my gosh, the

hilarity of it all, the inside jokes and to know

who the hero is at the very end made me stand

up and clap. I'm like, Oh my gosh, it was brilliant.

I really wish it was a whole series instead of

just the one shot. Yeah. How do you feel about

the universe ending and Unicron coming in after

12 years? You know what? When I first heard it,

I'm like, man... It's really sad because we've

had some great stuff. I mean, the writing and

the artwork and just the continuity that has

come out. If you're gonna go out, might as well

go out big with Unicron, you know, and James

has had a good run and John, you know, the writers.

I mean, all the writers, I mean, Sarah and. They

all did amazing work. And yeah, as sad as I am,

I'm kind of excited and nervous to see what's

to come, you know, because I'm always one of

those people and like, oh, what's this new perspective

on this character? And. Yeah, I kind of think

both James and John kind of need a little break

John's got a lot of stuff going on he does like

I mean he the whole time that this has been going

on with Transformers I've seen him write the

back to the future stuff with Bob Gale at IDW

I've seen him do some other Marvel stuff, but

James yeah, James is the one that really needs

the break is he's been doing this the whole time

and not see i i know james is done other things

but during the run of more than meets the eyes

slash lost light i don't think he's done much

else other than consume himself with his story

his tail what he wants to put his stamp on the

transformers universe and damn it if he hasn't

done that already and when i from what i've heard

james is like i'm going to be able to tell and

finished my story, which I'm so grateful that

IDW has allowed him to stay on to tell his whole

story. James is an amazing writer. He really

is. But I know he he worked it. I mean, he was

kind of a nightmare for the artists. I know that

for sure. But no, like I said, I'm sad and excited

at the same time. it's always good to start fresh

because especially with and people are always

coming new and fresh into the fandom and so you're

always like well where's a good place just to

pick up you know and um you know this is a great

way to reboot and to start start fresh you know

say hey this is uh and it's not like what marvel

and dc have done like okay We've screwed up this,

so we're just going to do, you know, we're going

to reset the universe. No, they're actually going

to be able to stop, you know, complete this whole

storyline, complete this universe, and then start

with something new. And I think that's awesome.

In 12 years, IDW, and this is more, some listeners

may or may not know this, but in 12 years, IDW

has only quote unquote soft rebooted One time,

you had Robots in Disguise, which just eventually

became Transformers because the 2015 Robots in

Disguise cartoon was out. You had the main series

with John, which took place on Cybertron. And

you had More Than Meets the Eye slash The Lost

Light with James. And that was the way that...

how i got into transformers comics is basically

somebody said okay you start at the death of

optimus prime you have two paths leading off

from there you can go to cyber trying to deal

with the politics with with john and robots in

disguise or you can go off with rodham missing

and company and have a space adventure and adventure

in space so you could essentially choose one

of two paths or choose them both and read it

all doesn't it done pretty much that myself as

well Still catching up on lost light on stuff,

too No, it's I mean it's been an amazing run

I remember when I Can't believe it's been 12

years. Oh my gosh. That's insane. Just to think

about that to think that it all started in Because

before then, they had the infestation and devastation

and all that. Those were hits and miss. Like

I said, it's kind of sad. I'm excited to see

where James goes too, because I'm not sure if

he's going to be writing for Transformers, but

that's not what I've heard. I've heard that he's

not going to be doing it. You know what? Yeah,

I'm excited. But yeah, sad at the same time.

Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. Absolutely it

does. It's kind of like when you have that last

piece of chocolate, you're like, I'm going to

savor this last piece of chocolate. But it's

my last piece of chocolate. Yep. All right. How

big is your Transformers toy collection? Mike

you never ask a girl her size, okay? I really

I mean I was thinking about this. I'm like, I

really can't give you an exact number cuz Most

of my figures are in storage. I still buy stuff

and I just put him in storage But I'm guessing

from my smallest legends to my biggest one, which

is the supreme Starscream I'd say around 300

400 I have almost the full collection of animated

and a lot of g1 stuff and a lot of generation

stuff and so Yeah, I'd say between 300 and 400

around there Okay, so... A lot of them are still

in packages. Oh, so you're like our other friend

P. Concord Michael. He has, like, closets full

of stuff. Yeah, it's just like... I mean, I've

got... I mean, I've got my masterpiece Skywarp,

which I haven't opened up, you know, and I've

got... I've got two animated RCs, which everyone

covets. They're still not opened up. Yeah. So

yeah, I've got a few. But that also includes

the really little legends too. I mean, like I

said, I'm a completionist when it comes to Beachcomber.

So with Beachcomber, I usually get three of each

one. So I'll have one in package. I'll have one

in robot mode and I'll have one in his vehicle.

But Beachcomber is kind of easy. He really doesn't

have that many characters. No. That's a very

cheap collection. I will hurt myself if they

ever get a masterpiece. Oh, yeah. What is OK?

Because he was my first one, so it's just like,

oh. I have a really soft spot for him, you know.

So that pretty much answers question 16 then.

What is the one Transformers toy you could never

part with ever? Basically, hoping nothing happens

actually, but if the house caught fire and you

can only take one Transformers toy, Beachcomber

would be it, or would it be somebody else? No,

no. Actually, I hope I don't cry on this one.

The toy that I choose isn't really a valuable

toy. It's nothing expensive, but it's sentimental

to me. Um It's my rescue bots blades because

it was given to me by JD who passed away I Wish

she was here. I'm so sorry. No, I know He was

a host of fanboy verses. Yeah, he was. He was

also on Radio Free Cybertron. Yeah, I missed

that guy. I mean, a lot of people have given

me toys and stuff, but he's the one that's here

now. Oh, dang it, why am I crying on a podcast?

But yeah, so it has a lot of sentiment to me.

What was okay, so I'm not supposed to ask a girl

her size What was the most amount of money you

ever spent on a transformers item? This one is

a hard question me because Like I said, I have

a lot of toys on some of my body. Okay, so Back

in the day, when the first movie came out, right

before the first movie, the live action movie

came out, I worked for eBay. And so a lot of

transformer stuff was going up because people

are like, oh, I can make money, the new nostalgia.

And so while I worked at eBay and it's getting

really slow, I would be like searching for stuff

and like, ooh, what's new has been posted. Sometimes

people would sell their lots. And this is one

of the reasons why I have a lot of stuff. So

I remember I bought a lot for about $300 one

night because I was really slow at work and I

worked the night shift. And so I was like, yeah.

So I'm like, this looks like really fun. There's

a lot of G1 stuff. So boop. And I'm like, and

then when I actually went in the bid, I'm like,

crap, now I gotta pay for this. That's the way

bidding always goes on eBay. Before I can't really

say I Can't really remember the I know I got

into a bidding war when animated was on eBay

You know the prototypes and stuff. Oh, yeah that

whole thing cuz everyone wanted to be the first

to review, you know and Yeah, I can't remember

I would have to say it was just that lot that

I bought Like I said, I can't remember. I spend

money like no other and I shouldn't. At that

time, I mean, I had a package at my door every

day for like three months and it had a transformer

in it or something transformer related. And I

remember I bought a, I got a bid. And it included

my Supreme Starscream and Primus. And I know

that was kind of pricey, but I honestly can't

remember. Wow. Yeah. That's the problem of working

there. It was just like, hmm, let's see. Yeah,

exactly. All right. This question we usually

save almost for last because you never know what

kind of reaction you're going to get out of it.

Do you like or loathe the Bay verse or are you

just indifferent to it? See, I don't know how

to answer this because I'm not a hater of it

I still really enjoyed the first movie. I really

it's got its flaws, but I remember when 2007

came out and I was rushing home from Vegas Because

I had tickets to go see it. We bought tickets

months before or weeks before and I gotta get

home So I go watch transformers, you know, and

I remember the first time you know seeing bumblebee

transform and the group transform and the the

pods coming to earth and I'm like my You know,

I watched it like 14 times in the month at the

theater Me and my one co -worker we skipped work

three times to go watch So yeah, I still enjoy

the first movie and as much as I they're not

good films. They are not good films. That's for

sure But I always find something fun and enjoyable

or good about each one of them They have their

moments. Yeah, you might have to weed them out

But I mean like in the second movie rich Ben

to the pond gosh I think that's the worst out

of all of them. There is that moment with Sam

and his dad at the end and I'm just like oh my

gosh this is what the whole writing should be

when his dad is telling him you cannot do this

you do not and and Sam's like no I've got to

and they had that father and son moment I'm like

why couldn't the rest of the movie be like this

instead they're doing weed and fart jokes you

know but yeah it was 2009 and it was a writer

strike they had to basically scrape the bottom

of the barrel I know and you know Like I said,

in that movie, when they had the little insecticons,

I'm like, that's really cool, you know? And to

have Frank Welker back as Soundwave was amazing.

I mean, each movie has its little, like the last

movie, my gosh, the mini Dinobots. Oh, that's

so cute. But man, there's a, I know what I'm

going to get when I go see a Transformers movie.

And like, like, The last night. I'm like, I just

want to see optimist writing Grimlock and being

you know, a badass I got my money's worth because

I'm like, that's all I wanted to see I knew it

wasn't gonna be great. Yeah So I'm not a hater.

I don't blow them, but I'm just like I Just wish

they mmm. I wish they need to get James and John

to write James said you're not gonna be on the

comics anymore. Go write the movie Yeah. Yeah,

that would be amazing if that would happen. Sadly,

I just I think Michael Bay just goes to the lowest

common denominator of writers. Like, it's just

what he does. It doesn't make sense because Orsi

and Hertzman did a great job, you know, with

with their TV shows and stuff. They have writing

potential. I think it just takes a fan or someone

who's been in the community to actually write

about robots. I mean, we had this problem with

the comics when writers don't feel like these

are actual beings, that they just feel like they're...

They're robots. They're not. They are actual

people. And while fans see these bots as people,

a lot of people will put themselves into a character

somehow. And I don't think some writers get that,

you know? You've got to go past it, you know,

and say, no, this isn't just an object. These

are beings with feelings and hearts and hate

and... ability to build other things up but yeah

it takes a certain writer to be able to get that

you know higher means higher higher higher Heather

and Amy and I we will make something kick butt

man I'm scared okay so since you said that If

you could create any Transformers fiction, whether

it be toy, cartoon, comic, movie, etc., what

would it be and what story would you want to

tell with it? Oh, now, if I had complete reigns,

like no holds barred, I would do something that

hasn't been done with Transformers. Broadway

musical. I would love to see, I know it would

be something like Spiderman turned off the dark.

Oh my god. But I think it would be kind of fun

to see some stage magic and I don't know how

you'd get away with it but and I was thinking

you would be awesome and horrible and just amazing

at the same time. You take Thundercracker's soap

opera and put it into a Broadway musical. It's

story makes no sense How to do a live okay, so

have you have you seen Universal Studios Megatron

Go on YouTube and watch Universal Studios Megatron.

He's amazing. He knows how to ad -lib and stuff.

I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like one of the

best characters ever. Whoever's in the suit just

totally gets into it and I love it. I'm just

like, if you can see something like that on stage,

it'd be awesome. Yeah, that would be kind of

fun. I don't know how to do it. Give me some

time. I think I could pull it off. Yeah, let's

hope, um... Let's hope it doesn't turn into what

Spider -Man turn off the dark was. Because, yikes.

We're watching people dying? No, I hope not.

Optimus is dead, and it's not Megatron that killed

him. It was Rotimus, because he wants to be the

leader instead. Do you have a, my parents got

rid of my toys story? You what? I don't because

I had like the coolest, I still have the coolest

parents. Anyone that has met my parents are just

like, oh my gosh, I won the jackpot with parents.

So when I was growing up, my parents knew how

important certain toys were for me. I was really

connected to certain items and they always held

onto them. I mean, that's why I still have a

lot of my G1 stuff because the only thing my

mom really got rid of was like, like stuffed

animals that were just like, we can't save this.

You know, or, or I gave them to, I handed them

down to like my, my baby cousins or a neighbor

or something, you know, but most of like my ponies

and my transformers and my care bears. Uh, I

still have. Yeah. So very cool. Very cool. What

is one piece of advice that you'd give the transformers

fandom and transformers collectors in general?

Breathe. Just breathe. I know people are passionate

about this, and I understand I'm passionate about

this fandom, too, but some people just go, whew,

overboard, you know? When people get upset because

a masterpiece is numbered wrong or out of order

or something like... The numbering of masterpieces

or, you know, the pure G -1ers when that's not

my prime and you want things change. I mean,

I'm not the same as I was 30 years ago, you know.

These characters are going to change or, you

know, just calm down, just relax, you know, something

new is always out there. And then... Also, try

to get out of your comfort zone. I know a lot

of people are just like rescue bots, you know,

some I think and you know, I get it, but give

it a shot because there's some real fun episodes

and there's some really serious episodes. And

then, of course, they have a musical, which is

awesome. And plus, rescue bots had Tim Curry.

Come on. Yeah, get out of your comfort zone.

See, like I said, a lot of people hate on beast

machines. It's I love Beast Machines. I love

Beast Machines more than I do Beast. I love both,

but I love Beast Machines more. That's another

character I love. I love Jet Storm. My gosh,

I love Jet Storm. It's such a pain in the butt,

I love him though. Yeah, get out of your comfort

zone. People get into their little bubble. I'm

just like, you never know what you could find

or explore when you get out there. I mean, heck,

I even tried... doing the kiss - reading Kiss

Plane, you know? It's not for me, but I came

at a shot. The only thing I will say for people

not to open up to is the Unicron Trilogy. It's

just too friggin' bad. It has its redeeming qualities.

No it does not. Starscream, the storyline was

pretty good, you know? It's, yeah... it's got

its faults um it didn't need to be as long as

it was yeah no did not need to be three cartoon

series no it didn't but it does have its qualities

if they just get rid of the the children it'd

be fine but you know somebody can kick kicker

off a cliff maybe you can catch a pokemon go

on the way down no i personally like i said i

could find something good in each series But

that's just me. I'm just like, okay, what worked

here? What didn't, you know? And I'm not gonna

give up on something because the first two paragraphs

aren't what I expected of it, you know? So, just

breathe, just take a breather, enjoy it, you

know? If you don't like something, don't go on

a tirade and say, Oh, can I please say this?

Stop with the whole Michael Bay raped my childhood.

First of all, that's a very serious issue these

days. No, he did not destroy your childhood.

You still have those great memories of your childhood.

He just has his different views or the certain

writers have their different views. you know

just wait until something else comes on just

please stop with that saying okay just breathe

enjoy the fandom as it is i think the the new

little rescue bots are adorable you know a lot

of people are hating on the the web series right

now because it's not their thing but power of

the primes Yeah, you know what? That's fine.

That's not your thing. But guess what? We have

some new stuff that is going to be coming out.

Just give it some time, you know? Breathe. Just

breathe. Since I now have a smartphone again,

yay. anyway I downloaded the the go 90 app which

is a mobile TV network thing and they like I'm

like oh okay then so that's how they that's all

I can watch that now I'm like how can I watch

this these transformers series things that are

that are on online here and I'm like oh right

it's on go 90 so i have kind of been watching

it i think i'm up to the second series now for

the mission of the stuff but i don't know but

again you know it's not your thing just wait

just just wait a few months or something gonna

be new oh yeah no absolutely um i'm just trying

to see here which one yeah i've seen combiner

wars and yeah i'm on Titans return I think so

I haven't gotten to power the primes yet. So

Combine Wars was all right Titans return like

I said, I haven't watched it yet. So I don't

know But you know if you're looking for something

to go watch the little Creos shorts those are

yeah, oh my gosh, I love the Creos. They're so

fun Absolutely Alright folks, I think that's

going to do it for us here on All Things Transformers.

Join us next time for whomever we have. Also,

you're not going to analyze me and my cyclonus

obsession. I thought we already did that. You

basically denied you have one. You liked Rio

instead. I know where you live. You'll never

come out here. Nobody wants to come to Illinois.

After all, the Transformers destroyed Chicago.

I've been to Illinois before. What happened back

there mighty Galvatron, what is that? Since when

do ghosts tumble out of control through space?

Yeah, so what is it about? Cyclonus that you

just can't get enough of well first of all it's

the voice What voice there is no voice? Voice

the g1 voice he's got that nice deep groggy voice.

Mm -hmm. Yeah He said nothing in the movie Well

doesn't mean that he didn't say anything in season

3 that's true Was it Roger C. Carmel, I think?

Yeah, him and was it Ultra Magnus went on a little

rendezvous together? Yeah, and then he had a

goatee at one point because Starscream took his

body over. Starscream just loves Cyclonus' body.

Stop it. Now we're really getting into fan fiction

mode here. God. Reminds me of someone who sadly

wrote a blaster fanfic where they basically Had

somebody else raping him with other cassettes.

It was so weird. I don't even know. Yeah, it

was messed up But okay. So yeah Cyclonus besides

the voice. What else is it? I don't know his

leadership abilities. I mean he's he's able to

stay cool under pressure He's able to be next

to Whirl without killing him completely? Well,

now anyway. I mean, that's why Amy's not dead

yet. So, for those of you who don't know, who

haven't listened to the pull bag and the underbass

and all that stuff, whenever Nicole, Amy, Heather

and I are on reviewing things or whatever, basically,

Nicole is Cyclonus and Amy is Whirl. And Heather's

off being that pitiful leader of the Autobots.

And, of course, I'm stuck with three Autobots.

I'm just like, oh my gosh. You're stuck with

three Autobots. Well, yeah, we're, well... You're

an Autobot lover? Well, yeah. I love Decepticons,

too. Astro Train rules. Who's your favorite?

For Decepticons? No. all -time you love all -time

well that's that's hot rod rodimus but i do love

i do ever since i was a kid i do love astro train

and sound wave those are my two decepticon cyclonus

is a classic closing galvatron from g one are

a close like second to those first you know and

i also do love rodimus but in a sadistic way.

No, I really do. Just tell the audience that

story. You just want him to die all the time.

No, I don't want him to die. I just like it when

he gets, you know, his butt handed to him. I

think James has done a great, and Nick, Nick

Roche has done a great job with Rodimus and I

love it, but I love it when he gets his butt

handed to him. I don't know. It brings joy to

me when I see Artemis get hurt. I don't know

why. I don't know why. My favorite thing that

that he ever did so far, and I have not read

a lot of Lost Light, but like in More Than Meets

the Eye, the funniest rodimus thing he ever did

was the whole badge thing close to the end uh...

the whole of rodimus badges on area no no no

no no and um... it was so where was it is in

volume ten it was uh... uh... brainstorm The

whole brainstorm Autobot Decepticon thing. There's

a panel, there's pages where Rodimus is like,

but here, look, but here, look, this is what

it actually is. Like it was some weird reveal

thing, it was hilarious. I do like Brainstorm

too. He's okay. I like a lot of different characters.

Oh, and Overlord with his lips. Oh god. Okay

on that note Where can the people find you online?

Oh, you can find me Well, if you're if you're

just wanting to Google things Google's little

Beatles diva That's Beatles like the band not

the bug or if you're on a Transformers form.

I'm hailstorm All right. I am at TF2 and Mike

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as well for this show Join us next time for whoever

the hell I'll have in the hot seat and as I said

But at the beginning of the show Steve Megatron

does news update episodes every every so often.

So there's that Do you do you realize it was

almost a year ago exactly you were interviewing

Heather for this same show It's taking you over

a year to get a touch with me. What's up with

that? Hello, I've had a lot going on in my life

also buys the best lines yeah the best line Heather

ever said which was this from optimus we're getting

the heck out of here folks see you next time

Stan Bush here, and you're listening to the latest

episode of All Things Transformers.