All Things Transformers: Episode 23

That's it. and you're listening to All Things

Transformers episode 23. I am your host Steve

slash Megatron and joining me as usual is...

Mike from TFG1, hello. Howdy. Yes, you have a

very busy Saturday like normal. Yes, well this

one and next week and the week after are going

to be pure hell in terms of busyness. Yes. And

the busyness today really isn't anything to do

with the wedding. Per se, per se, because you're

going to see fucking Star Trek. That's part of

my bachelor party, bitch. Yeah, but it's not

really, like, the most important thing. I mean,

hell, you could have the bachelor party at fucking

midnight in the middle of the week. True. But

anyway. But, we're seeing it in IMAX, so it's

epic. God. Fucking Star Trek geek. Yes. Well,

I was a Star Trek geek before I was even into

Transformers. And before I knew about Batman.

And before I knew about... I can't go any further

because that was pretty much the major part of

my childhood up until Transformers took over.

I am the goddamn Batman. I'm capturing at the

Enterprise. I kill you now. But anyways, yes,

and I had to sign up with my various email accounts

to get myself a free popcorn. Yes, Steve is raping

his movie theater of multiple free popcorns everybody.

This is the fifth time I've done it. Yes, the

fifth offense. How the hell? Okay, wait, wait,

wait. Stop. You told me off -air just now before

we started this that you get free unlimited refills.

How the fuck are you gonna get free unlimited

refills without missing the entire movie? Here's

the thing. They say they give you a small free

popcorn, which is actually their medium because

they downsize, which is actually their large

because they switch sizes again. And so in doing

so, it's not a bag, it's a bucket. and I can

fill it up and being that I'll be the only one

eating this free popcorn and any size popcorn

there is unlimited refills whether you purchase

it or you have this coupon um just for throwing

their email account in there which I'm going

to promptly delete and then create a new one

but um yes so I can deter the uh newsletter and

then uh yeah I can pay a little bit extra and

I can get it next size up but I'm only going

to get the one refill so I'm only going to fill

it up once, so I'm going to just pay 50 cents

and get a bigger size. But yes, I like taking

popcorn from my theater for free! Don't sound

like you're too interested there, you know, type

type type. because my skype information is now

on my twitter uh... just sent me a little message

so i just said recording now she on skype so

yes so who who who who who who who who who who

who who who who who who who who who who who who

who who who who who who who who who who who who

who who who who who who who who who who who who

who who who who Not all here in the head. Anyways,

on my Twitter I recently created, well I've had

the Twitter, but I created the background for

it using your idea of the layout. I used my original

background, but I showed all the Twitter IDs

that I'm associated with, which is GeekCastBeast

unleashed in my own SCP -21, as well as all my

IM information, including Skype, and all my various

website locations. The only thing I left out

of mine was my new blog site. I completely forgot

that. I used, I used PE .com, or PredaconEmpire

.com, and then I used the forums because I thought

that the, I thought that the links would be able

to show in the image, but apparently they don't.

But anyway, people can just copy and paste them,

but I forgot to put the new blog site link in,

so I may have to have Michael redo that for me,

but... Speaking of Twitter, one of my followers

on there who is a member of the PredaconEmpire

.com forums, yes people you should go there and

join now. Stupid869 on Twitter asked me what

the difference is between TweetDeck and Twitterific.

Twitterific is an iPhone and Mac application

only. Twitterific just updated to 2 .0. It now

allows you to retweet. It now allows you to view

conversations between users. Say Steve and I

have a back and forth going, you click on one

of our names, you can view that conversation

thread. It also allows you to do multiple accounts.

Steve, if you will, on your internet go to your

Twitter and sign in and I'm going to show you

something because I'm going to do it from my

phone obviously. Yes, I'm signed in. Yes, okay.

I never log out. I do sometimes. Well, I do only

because my computer's been having issues, but

I'm never not logged in on the phone. All right,

so I am just getting ready to and apparently

the new replies are now no longer called that

replies They're called mentions for some odd

reason whatever. I don't care Well, it's called

at and then it has my name on the website So

well, yes, but Twitter if it is calling the mentions

now instead of at replies or instead of replies

On Twitter if it for iPhone it will show your

own tweets your user in green it will show replies

to you or mentions in orange and it will show

your direct messages in blue so under my own

account TFG one podcast I just sent Steve a high

now I'm going to go out of that I'm going to

go into our beast unleashed account open damn

it open Which is also the opening for the new

episode 16 of TFG1 podcast. Check it out motherfuckers.

That's right. 3 hours 58 minutes god damn it.

Longest episode ever and to all those who keep

complaining about it's so long. Just do stuff

while you're listening. Have it turned up and

go fucking vacuum your apartment or something.

Well this is what I did. I can turn it on, I

can listen, it burns away half my work day. Yes,

exactly. Okay, now, if you'll look at your, let

me just refresh here, you might be able to already

do it. Holy crap, there's like a hundred and

something tweets on here for Based on Leash,

because I don't refresh that that much. I've

just refreshed on that, so if you want to refresh

on yours, you should have two highs, one from...

Me as TFG one and one for me is beast unleashed

and Let's see and I sent messages back And the

gagging continues yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever

you saw the message didn't you no I haven't yet

I just sent one from GeekCastRadio. So, Twitterific

2 .0 is awesome. It allows you to sign into multiple

accounts. Hello, this is not a test. That's funny

as shit. Anyways, so yeah, Twitterific, if you

have an iPhone, get it. Right now, when it originally

released, it was $9 .99 in the App Store. Right

now, as an introductory new price for 2 .0, it

is now $3 .99. Hey, it's better than 10 bucks,

because the difference is between the premium

version and the free version. They put ads in,

like, every six tweets. But don't you like ads?

Don't they just make the world go round? Unless

it's Geekcast Radio, TFG1, ATTF, or one of our

shows, ads suck. Yeah, that's pretty close to

it So that's um that's a little Twitter effect

demo for stupid 869 on Twitter Hopefully he listens

to this because I told him I was going to be

talking about it in episode 23 here Let's see

up next we have some BotCon news BotCon has updated

their visitors list The last time we did an episode

22 the last one was on there was at Weird Al

now As of the 4th of May, Michael McConaughey?

I don't know. It's not McConaughey, it's Michael

Mc - It's M -C -C -O -N -N -O -C -H -I -E. I

don't know how to say it and I don't want to

butcher his name. He was the G1 voice of Tracks

and Cosmos. He will be at BotCon. They updated

on the 5th that the Shout Factory people will

be there. Uh, they're actually sponsoring BotCon's

film festival this year. Uh, they will be unveiling

the complete first season DVD set, as well as

- Oh, damn it! Oh, I really wanna go to BotCon,

son of a bitch! They're gonna be unveiling the

Matrix of Leadership Complete Series Edition,

you bastards. Alright, whoever - Eh, it'll be

on sale. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Whoever

listens to this episode that's going to BotCon,

I want video. I want pictures. I want something.

I want to see that set. The Hasbro panel, Transformers

fans attending BotCon 2009 in Pasadena, California

later this month, May 28th to the 31st, will

have the opportunity to be some of the first

fans anywhere to buy the all new movie toys of

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen starting Thursday,

May 28th. Okay, yeah, that's not what I was looking

for. Our next set of guests are some of the writers

from G1, Bryce So that's pretty cool. As much

as I'm not really too keen on the actual theme

of BotCon this year, as far as what they chose

for the Elite Guard, the fact that they're going

back to all this G1 stuff is awesome. And you're

supposed to say something. You fucking Beast

Wars fan. Well, G1 was good, but Beast Wars was

better. Whatever. If they had the writers for

Beast Wars, Larry DiTilio and Bob Forward, then

it would complete the writing cast. I think they

were there one year, weren't they? They were

there at one... I thought they were. You're full

of shit, no. Yeah. Time be proof. I will, not

right now, but I will. Wikipedia, BotCon. Let's

see, BotCon 2006 archive, because 2006 was the

10th anniversary of Beast Wars, motherfucker.

They weren't there. David Kay was, because he

read an actual scripting thing with them, whatever.

Yadda yadda yadda. No, 97 was David Kay's first

appearance. Yeah, 97 was his first appearance,

but... Bob Forward was there. Along with Vince

DiCola and Stan Bush and Peter Cullen the same

year. Okay, but okay, well Bob Forward has been

to BotCon. Twice. Okay, well, just because he's

not coming this year, at least he's already been.

Yeah, oh, and Larry DiTiglio went the next year.

See, I told you they've already been to BotCon.

Told you. I'm right, you're wrong. Wow, David

Kay's been to a bunch of them. Yeah, he's been

to 07. He's been to 97, 98. He's been to Looks

like 2003 2007 and 2009 I Don't know 2008 and

2009. Oh he was there last year. Yes. I didn't

yes because I wanted to go because it was in

Ohio. Oh, yeah, that's right Yes, yes breaking

my friend on Facebook Yeah, actually I added

him. I found him on your friends, and I added

him. He hasn't approved the request yet, but...

Um, yeah. Breaking off the BotCon news, happy

25th birthday, Transformers. May 8th, 25 years

ago, the world was taken by storm by the launch

of the Transformers, the first iconic issue of

the Marvel Comics Transformers miniseries. So

that's pretty cool. That's a nice thing. Revenge

of the Fallen movie poster revealed, so there's

a new movie poster, yay. Um, I really don't...

It's better than the last one. I gotta admit.

Yeah, I guess. Slightly. It's still got fucking

Prime in it. It's badass. Well, yeah, but I'm

just so sick of seeing Bumblebee already. I'm

just so sick of that already. Whatever. The TFA

Shockwave Exclusive Target Exclusive has shown

up in Canada. And of course, earlier this morning,

Transformers animated. This is why Hate Machines

premiered, and oh my god. This... Was probably

outside of trans warp. This is probably my favorite

episode this season so far Because at the end

and yes, this is going to be spoilers. Hopefully

by the time this airs everyone will have seen

the episode Well, I would think so considering.

I'm not gonna get it edited today at all. It'll

be out tomorrow. It's fine But at the end Shockwave

gets his true colors, so it brings even more

significance to the actual target exclusive purple

shockwave So shockwave shows us true colors.

Yes for once Yes. I'm an evil prick that's purple

like Barney! Where's my spots? Oh my god. That's

so wrong. Wow, we jump all over the place in

the show because that's what we do. Yes, that's

what we do best. Oh my god, that is so wrong

on so many levels. Yes, and each episode has

to have some epicness that is horrible. Yes.

Yeah, exactly. Because you know what? If wouldn't

be a TTF if it wasn't yeah exactly That is really

all things terrifying Ain't that the truth? Oh?

We should mention going back to the botcon thing

the botcon set They've shown pictures of the

box, and it looks super cool It's got the the

elite guard symbol on the front of it, and it

opens up. It's a completely different box from

what? Apparently years past have been the two

panels open up and it shows information on each

side of the panel And then there's the actual

box I guess I don't I don't know how I've only

seen like one or two images of it, but it looks

fucking cool Yes, yes, I just want the box if

anybody wants to bring me back a box from BotCon

I don't want the toys in and I just want the

box You can make a crazy man happy I kill you

now, that is horrible. Uh, could be worse. Yes,

don't ever do that sound again. You did it last

episode, and I'm pretty sure it scared away my

listeners. Uh, no. Hell, you should be getting

more listeners now that I'm on here. Shit, uh,

no. No, you made it ten times worse. No, I'm

just kidding. No, it's helped. No one could make

it ten times worse than a previous. COST! Um,

but anyway, animated was awesome. We saw Flareup,

we saw, I believe the white thing was Grandis,

I'm not sure, please don't kill me, all you Grandis

fans out there, I don't know. I think they said

there's two. Yeah, I know, but I didn't really

know. Actually, it's funny. Pia who was in my

roundtable and who's a big YouTube transformers

reviewer He act for his birthday this past a

couple weeks ago. I guess Derek J Wyatt actually

made him An animated rat trap and guess who showed

up in the episode today rat trap Now don't know

if he was actually called rat trap or not, but

it was the image that It was the design that

Derek had done for him for his birthday, and

it was just kind of really, really awesome. And

I truly think that Jazz, Blur, and Prowl need

their own series from animated. Oh my god, Jazz

is so freaking cool. Yes. At the end of the episode

before it goes to the Megatron shockwave thing,

Jazz comes to Earth, and Ratchet has the Magnus

Hammer, and Jazz says, uh, I'm not diggin' what

Sentinel's doin' anymore, and I think I'm gonna

stay here on this planet for a while, so as of

right now, Jazz is going to be on Earth. And

with how epic and great this season has been,

we need a Season 4. We definitely do. Well, if

we don't get a Season 4, it's going to suck.

Yes, it's going to really suck because they have

all of the people that are involved in the show

have stepped up ethically These entire or does

it 10 10 episodes so far? Including the transform

transform three -parter. So You know, it's like

oh my god. Oh So yeah I think that's all I have.

Do you have anything else to add? No, I think

we'll cut right to the listener question. Oh

yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. The

listener question was, not a lot of people on

the forums are giving us listener questions,

which I can understand. Some of them probably

have lives and like some other geeks like us,

but anyway. Listener question I posed was if

you could design or include any figures into

the next bot concept What kind of like theme

or whatever would you have and what figures would

you have in it? I? personally not to cut you

off I would do the epic arc battle where the

Decepticons boarded the arc and have a section

of the arc and have them all Battling yes because

it sounds lame as hell. I would have all of the

Decepticons and Autobots that we could have Probably

five from each side because you know they aren't

gonna put that much you know figures into it

and Take some of their classic selves and redo

it Well if you think about it If you think about

the actual set what they do The five -figure

set plus say five exclusives including the the

the attending free thing So I mean you get ten

figures so You know, I don't know. I think now

you're talking about the the g1 when they board

the arc, right? Okay, yeah, that would be pretty

cool Me myself even though it's already been

done. I still want to see more shattered glass.

I am so hooked on shattered glass right now Yeah,

I don't want to see more of that, but if I had

if I had to have my pick of like putting figures

in I would probably actually go the animated

route. I would do Elite Guard animated and have

Blur, Jazz, Purple Shockwave, Elite Guard Bumblebee,

forget regular Bumblebee, he sucks. Anyway, Optimus

Prime, Megatron, I'd probably only do a few of

the clones, and I wouldn't call them clones,

I would do them as their original intentions

were supposed to be like Skywarp, Thundercracker,

whatever. I wouldn't have them as clones of Starscream

because, I don't know, I just don't like that.

Anyway. But yeah, that's what I would do. Alrighty

then. Yes, so I think now Optimus Scourge and

I after we did our TFTM record for the roundtable

we did a con talk all about conventions specifically

TF and BotCon but because he and a few of the

other TFW board members and TFW podcasters had

just gotten back from BotCon from TFCon And I

think we're going to cut out to that unless you

have anything else to say. Uh, nope. Okay, so

please enjoy the contact clip. Okay, now we can

have it end. Yes, we can have it end. Must end

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It is currently still under construction, but

there is some stuff you can actually view on

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logo. Oh, did you add different stuff? Well,

I added that ad that we sent over each other.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's iPhone docked.

Yes. Not iPod docked. It's iPhone docked. I don't

have one, so cut me some slack. Well, you need

to get one, or you need to buy mine so I can

buy a new one. Why would I buy yours when I can

buy a new one myself? And I can get it half off.

Because no, you can't. Yes, I can. No, you can't.

Yes, I can. No, you can't because all non iPhone

non previous iPhone customers have to pay the

original price $4 .99 and $5 .99 for each model

That's not what I got in my email Well, I got

a special offer Then your emails wrong because

I used to be an ATT subscriber bastard yes All

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Based on like voiceovers or technology or social

media, then I leave them Yes, before we go I

should mention I have been emailing Stan Bush

back and forth over the last week Just to let

him know that the episode the the roundtable

was going to be released yesterday and everything

our Friday I should say since this won't air

until Sunday, but But I did email him and I asked

him about if he had any more updates on guitar

hero stuff And he said that guitar hero is going

to feature the touch as a free download and it

will be available at the end of may so i don't

think that that at that actual news has been

reported i mean i know that it's been said that

it it was going to be in there but not a specific

whether it was gonna cost any points or anything

if it was gonna you know when an actual releases

he didn't give me a specific date he just said

the end of may but that's better than thinking

it's going to be at the end of december So okay,

we've been trying to close this out for a few

minutes So I think we're gonna close it out since

we just hit the 25 minute mark Yes, I am all

things transformers Steve slash Megatron of Predacon

Empire comm and you are Yes, I am Mike Blanchard

of the TFG one podcast and geek cast radio comm

see ya folks Hello and welcome to all things

transformers convention clip I'm joined by optimus

scourge. Hello. Hi. How you doing today? pretty

good reason why we're doing this is because I

want a person who has actually been to a convention

to Kind of inform me on them as I've never been

and I probably won't go because of obvious travel

constraints. Yeah, it's definitely tough if you

can't fly. The main reason a lot of people can

do it is there are couples and families who will

go and sign everyone up for a Primus package.

and in years past I don't really call this scalping

because you're just trying to make a vacation

but you know they put their setup on eBay and

try to make at least some of their cost back

I mean you're gonna spend money at the show anyway

you're gonna spend on a hotel so it's it is expensive

so I know go ahead I was gonna say I mean I know

there's a lot of people that like to throw the

word scalper around to get these toys but in

order to get them some people are so crazy to

get them that instead of paying insane prices

they go to the shows so it but you shouldn't

based going on a show on an exclusive for example

I recently went to TFCon and I had a better time

at TFCon than I've had at BotCon in I'd say the

four or five years since it's been with Not with

the Hartmans anymore and you know, and then I

came back as the official show It was more fan

orientated very friendly laid back Hanging out

in the lobby, you know chatting away Nowadays

with Twitter. There's a lot of clicks and stuff

like that and then there's nothing wrong with

that But when you run into that at the convention

the people you know Especially if you set up

and it doesn't even have to be a convention really

because like in Philly where we go sometimes

And a lot of different other areas, you know

check your local on TFW. We have a Convention

and it's like forum and get -togethers like so

I've gone to a Philly meetup, which is maybe

only Six to ten guys, but it's really laid back.

You feel like you're all from the same state

You don't feel like you're meeting five thousand

people at once So that's a good way to start

it, you know Yeah Good no good As far as what

I was gonna say as far as being the official

show I mean that yes, you get the exclusive toys,

which may or may not be great or whatever And

it's all official and you get you know the the

night the music Yeah, you get all you get all

the stuff from Hasbro like we knew about Cyclonus

like almost a year before we even saw him I mean,

it was just you know, it was so cool. You mean

universe Cyclonus? Yeah Damn and you know, we're

taking notes trying to tell other people what

we saw and they're like, what's he like? We're

like he's freaking awesome, you know, so it's

very neat to be in there, but Bot con now is

you know more of a production Being all official

and that's not necessarily a bad thing But the

trading aspect for a smaller show or if you go

to a meetup and you fill your trunk with toys

You're not paying for dealer space. You're not

you know doing anything, but seeing if anyone

wants to buy or trade anything from you Yeah,

I I mean I would want to go to bot con just for

seeing the guests and seeing the Hasbro panel

and kind of like Looking in the dealer room and

just you know seeing stuff not really wanting

to deal with anybody Just because just from videos.

I've seen it is just massive and out of control

Yeah Why don't you tell us a little bit about

this year's TF con like what did you all do?

I mean, I know I know I know you talked about

this on the TFW podcast But I don't know how

many of the all things transformers listeners

listen to that podcast unfortunately Well It's

basically came down to like being a person of

karma and even if you don't believe in actual

karma you believe no matter what religion it's

pretty much the same message as far as You know

doing unto other people is what you'd have done

to you You know what I'm saying So if you wouldn't

want someone to be next to you when you haven't

taken a shower in four or five days If you're

at a convention, you should probably shower.

You should probably use deodorant There's a lot

of people the rooms get hot shower twice a day

whatever but yeah So that that's like convention

and want to run right there is be clean bring

a can of axe if you need it because it gets hot

sometimes in crowded panel rooms you know, or

the AC goes out and you have disasters, but you

know, as a general rule, I like both conventions.

I mean, I like BotCon, you get a really nice

box set, you get some cool exclusives, you know,

if that's Bonzitron. You know, even though that's

the Mirage mold, which, you know, it's an okay

mold. I'm just not the biggest fan of it, and

I'm a Mirage fan. I'm like, I made a Mirage a

boat, you know. It's not bad, but if it's Bonsitron,

all of a sudden, it's cool, you know. I mean,

that's just like, I don't know. I think that's

really cool. But, you know, you really shouldn't

base your whole experience. If you're going there

for the experience, and like, say for example,

for me, my first BotCon was 2004. And it was

Peter Cullen was going to be there. Now we knew

rumors of a live action movie at that time. And

so basically, the questions that Cullen were

along the lines of, do you know anything about

a live action movie possibly in the future? Because

we're hearing little mumblings in the fandom.

And he goes, no, I honestly don't know anything.

And you guys would probably know before I would,

you know? And we all kind of laughed at that.

Somebody said something the effect will boycott

it if it doesn't get done and so many people

had voiced their opinions across the all -spark

TFW Cybertron I mean everywhere was just we want

calling his prime calling his god calling his

prime, you know, so I Mean, yeah, I mean I get

that though I mean it's not okay like I completely

respect Gary Chalk for what he did with with

Beast Wars and Beast Machines but if you're gonna

go for a Transformers movie that has Optimus

Prime as the G1 version it has to be Colin that's

the only voice that ever did it for G1 I mean

that of course that's just me fanboying out about

it you know like you said well you know not necessarily

because a lot of a lot of people who would might

not even consider themselves fanboys would say

I mean you'd be crazy not to have the original

Optimus Prime and I'll put it like this I don't

remember who said that so forgive me if I don't

quote you you know properly but we were saying

you know the colonist prime or whatever I forgot

what I was going to say I don't know either Cullen

is prime somebody said stinger other Wow, this

this kind of went down the toilet fast. Um, anyway,

I totally lost my train of thought But I mean

it Cullen is prime is not so much just a fanboy

request like It didn't I've recovered it. It's

it's everybody's request I mean, everyone knows

what prime sounds like even if you're a casual

fan, you'll know that the guy that's on Nickelodeon

or whatever The guy that's you know he's doing

a commercial right now. I actually a trailer

for some movie I forget which movie it is forgive

me, but you know Peter Cullen's still around

he sounds better than ever you know And I think

he sounds now even more epic as Prime. He did

sound a little bit younger in the old days. I

mean, he had a deep, powerful voice, but now

he's really deep and powerful and all that. Oh,

I know what I was going to say before. I know

what I was going to say before. It was like,

if you can't have Peter Cullen as Prime, that's

like having Darth Vader without James Earl Jones.

And that's how it was kind of put onto the board.

Now, when you met him... Course I've asked you

about this picture before and you told me the

story which is fine We don't need to rehash that

story, but When you met him how often just without

people asking him How often did he at all go

into primes voice just in general talk? Oh in

his panel he did a lot. I actually had that on

video which I try to get on YouTube one of these

days, but I have Peter Cullen and Dan Gilbazan

from BotCon 2004 full panels. It's like two tapes

of Cullen and one of Dan in the breakfast they

had there. It was a very small convention, you

know, and the exclusive was like an action master.

You didn't go there for the exclusive or a $300

package. You went there for an admission of like

$30 or whatever. You might have pre -registered

for a hundred and gotten autographed this and

that and whatever, and guaranteed tickets for

that autograph. But also, as like a sub -collecting

thing that I do, you can kind of see it in my

name, but a lot of people don't, is I collect

black versions of Prime, and at that BotCon 04,

I got a real Jaffcon black Prime. Signed in gold

Sharpie by Peter Collin and it's like that is

the the masterpiece of my collection right there

That's cool. That better be in one of those glass

display cases. You told me you had Now speaking

about your name, how did how did that come about

your screen name optimus scourge? do you question

it's been asked many times before but uh... it's

basically our idea got me back into it and i

thought scourge was the best repeat ever you

took them in from this kind of no offense but

kind of a boring laser prime even though he's

a great toy when you when you turned him into

scourge with just a simple retain I really wish

they had kept the electronics for the light piping

in the fist and everything Because the laser

prime you press a button on his back and his

sword lights up Clear it took a clear sword that

lights up the red LED kind of like masterpiece

Grimlock Now who all besides Dan didn't you meet

and hang out with somebody else who is fairly

famous on Twitter and associated with TFA Um,

he was kind of hanging out with everybody. I

don't want to make myself look special Well,

no, no that well, that's what I mean. I didn't

mean to say that you personally were hanging

No, I know I just wanted to make sure our audience

was was aware that Derek was very open to everyone

It didn't matter if you're our Tony or you know,

this guy or that guy. It's just if you wanted

to hang around I mean provided your column and

you know, obviously composed In even even some

people who are a little excited he'll talk to

them and he understands are excited and he's

a fan You know, I was saying that on the other

podcast He's a real fan like, you know when he

does these drawings on a delightful tedium, which

is his blog Yeah, you could check out at delightful

tedium comm He'll post these things like here's

a sneak peek at you know, here's nine characters

A couple of them might be in an episode. And

I know so many people got upset that their dirge

and their whoever isn't going to be accurate

now because they gave them cone heads. But if

you ask me, that was one of the most awesome

and funniest things I have ever seen was given

them here. You guys would look good with these.

Give them G1 cone heads before they're thrown

out into, you know, wherever. Yeah, I don't know

and I'm not going to look it up right now. I

might do it later. I don't know who did Swindle's

voice, but that voice was awesome just for that

character. Oh, Swindle was awesome and I actually

got Derek to sign my Swindle and he's like scribbling

on it and I'm like, what's that? So he scribbled

on a little sketch of Swindle's head and then

signed it. Derek J. Wyatt was pretty cool. But

yeah, having Derek Wyatt at TFCon just having

a smaller scale show obviously than a BotCon.

But even then sometimes the bot con guests can

kind of flow with who's going where so you could

just kind of kind of hang around and follow people

You know that that's how I would say ease your

way in just kind of stay in the background kind

of like, okay That's what they're doing. I'll

go over here and get a drink and you know Next

thing, you know, you're you're you're rubbing

elbows with people like Stan Bush who was just

Drinking is drunk for the rest of us not that

I promoting drink We were all a little sloshed

after Bacchan That's what it's all about having

a good time with friends that you know from the

internet and if you develop people and you start

going to shows and you start remembering people

or people that go to these shows or even the

meetups and I stress the meetups because We all

know how bad the economy is and yada yada yada,

but yeah It's not expensive to say get on a board

wherever you are and say hey If you live in the

such -and -such area and don't be don't be afraid

to try just one board There may be fans from

other boards that you might want to try to I

don't you know There's different ways to do that,

but yeah, you know start a local meetup. I know

for here We have a New England. It's actually

a New Hampshire meeting a meetup, but anyone

who's from here might go to that You know, which

is where I haven't gone to one up there yet,

but I do know Lupus Convoy, who happens to live

in New Hampshire, who does go to those, and,

you know, and ends up being at someone's house

and only four or five people are there, but it's

a little something, and you can kind of all geek

that, hey, all of us like Transformers, and that's

just one thing I'd like to add to the whole BlockCon

or TFCon or any kind of Transformer convention,

toy convention, is everybody there. you know

even if you're you know a thousand people you're

nervous or if you're if you're you know you know

going outgoing and everything is everybody likes

transformers and no one can take that away from

you so it's like even though if that guy looks

big and tough well he's a transformer fan so

he's cool you know so you you kind of lose that

you lose any intimidation and obviously huge

guys could intimidate you but when they got like

a decepticon shirt on you're like oh he likes

transformers he must be awesome you know This

is just that kind of thing and and then it becomes

that whole bonding and making the friends that

you see in the different years that you go in

the different ways it happens and you know It's

more for me about you know kind of rubbing elbows

with friends and hanging out than it is to actually

do the events now that I've been to a few and

I've worked staff at cyber con and TF con not

staff at bot con because you know, they hire

their own people for that but Yeah, I I just

know from seeing the little little specials on

on the Rhino sets like a taste of BotCon because

it was back when the Hartmans were doing it But

I mean just just seeing the dealer room then

it was huge compared to I don't I don't know

what it is like now I'm sure it's like four times

the size of what it was back in 2002 but you

know I really wanted to go last year I had all

the costs up I'm only like an hour and a half

away from Cincinnati so I had all the costs up

for me and my mom to go and it would come to

like twelve hundred thirteen hundred dollars

just for two packages plus hotel and it was like

no I don't have twelve hundred bucks But yeah,

I mean TF con sounds like it'd be a blast I saw

a part of Vangelis's V log About TF con or during

that was actually last year's. Yeah, I was last

year's I thought it was this year's I'm pretty

the one he entered in like about for two weeks

ago Something it was like VLV log five or six

or something or other. I don't know I'm not sure

he actually has me on there getting my very first

taste of poutine, which if you don't know what

that is, it's pretty much greasy french fries,

lots of gravy, and some kind of soft cheese all

melted in there. It definitely sticks to your

ribs and will keep you full for a while and may

even induce a heart attack, so be careful. Can

you explain, because I don't really know and

I haven't really paid attention, I mean I've

seen all this fan's project stuff, can you explain

to me what they're actually doing? Is it just

armor with an existing figure, or is it a whole

new figure that they put out? Like Power Commander,

or not Power, well Power Commander. No, you have

to use the base figure. You have to use an Optimus

Prime or a Magnus or a Nemesis Prime to create

the figure. Okay, so it doesn't come with that.

Basically the trailer. The trailer all turns

into an armor and everything goes somewhere.

Each one has had a different accessory. As you

know, the Nemesis Convoy 1, which we know as

Powered Commander, comes with that kind of RID

Scourge Sword of Fury, which in Japan was a little

bit more pink in color and looked like that and

had a stronger tip. US safety laws rounded it

off to about a half inch round on the... RID

Scourge, which is why I like Japan's black convoy

a little better. Yeah, I've seen Pia's Powered

Commander and City Commander and Shadow Commander

reviews, and I've seen them on BBTS. I don't

know, is BBTS selling the figures with the armor?

Because that's the way the pictures show. No.

no you have to own the base figure okay unfortunately

that that sounds like yeah that's a good question

if people don't know that if you're looking to

buy shadow commander and you're seeing shadow

commander out there to buy 50 by now of 350 or

whatever the case may be you're buying just the

trailer just the trailer that turns into add

-on armor for that figure if you don't have classics

magnus prime or any of those molds obviously

the shattered glass crystal convoy you could

put armor on any one of those obviously the colors

they were intended for work best but you do need

the base figure which unfortunately because of

those releases and I'm not going to say that

you know I really like the releases myself and

I was lucky enough to get them but you know those

will never be made again And you know even if

you can't pick up a prime right now You can always

probably pick up a classics prime later on down

the road and I'd say if you're sitting on the

fence about the armor now It's the time to find

them because they're only gonna get more rare

They've destroyed the molds after they made the

500 for TF gone. Oh really? Yeah, they've destroyed

them all why'd they do that? Well, they would

they they said it was gonna be exclusive and

they weren't kidding and they didn't want anyone

stealing the mold So they purposely destroyed

him so no one could just take the idea and say

I'm gonna make some more power commanders You

know, oh is that just with power commander that's

not with city or shadow As far as I know they

were all the same molds with slight retools on

the options, okay So yeah Wow, whatever's out

there is whatever's left. I mean There is a lot

of people sitting on them, so I wouldn't say

it would be the really hard thing to find for

a while. But after a little bit they're going

to dry up, yeah. I mean I have BotCon Optimus

from last year. I have Shattered Glass Optimus

and I love him just the way he is, but I think

it would be cool if they made a purple set to

match his color. Yeah, unfortunately there's

not going to be any more coming out of that mold.

That mold's been destroyed. You have any predictions

on what that Springer mold might be? No, not

really at this time. I haven't gotten too much

into it to be honest The switch Springer mold

are we talking about the Springer mold that shows

on the back of the powered commander the advertisement

in the booklet the oh Those their other stuff

is very real. Yeah Yes, there are other stuff.

If you go onto TFW in the Transformers toy discussion

and Surge Fans Project G3 trailer, I've taken

a lot of pictures of the trailer. Also, if you

look in the photo galleries of TFCon, 2009 which

would be in the convention forums you'd find

the pictures I took of that whole place as well

They have the superior and add -on parts. They're

making real feet and real hands for superior

on For the universe superior on which is just

they were great prototypes when we saw them But

these guys are the type who are going to tweak

it. They're gonna say Oh, well, what are we can

what if you can make it this turn into this one?

It's in the system. They really just like you

know it's very well thought out incredibly talented

like you thought like the gc trailer is just

it's pretty cool the way it is and whatever and

it's going to be able to pop out and pull powered

commander or you know whoever commander you have

to pull not only does it do that but hides it

underneath underneath the the trailer folds all

the way out and then actually pivots on itself

on two little wheels i mean it's really well

done so you know those guys and and they were

even saying that we're just showing you stuff

we have coming up soon we have so much more in

the plans but there's only so fast they can release

it then you know they don't want people to go

broke so they're doing an incredible job and

what i like about the tfcon is the fact i can

drive there and yes it's a bit of a drive at

10 or 11 hours between 9 -11 hours depending

Sometimes depending on getting through customs

skin you can be there because it's no one in

front of you And you can just breeze through

you're all set, but you know someone ends up

getting pulled out of the car in front of you

You're gonna be there for a while, so it's gonna

happen on the way up there on the way back No,

it didn't happen on the way out there But on

the way back at the car in front of us or two

cars in front of us the people got pulled out

Pull into wherever And an officer got in and

parked their car around the side or whatever,

and then they were checking our passports and

everything like, what are these toys you got

here? We're like, we're going to a toy convention.

They're like, what? I'm like, yeah, seriously.

And he points to a box of Masterpiece Grimlock.

He goes, what's that? How much is that? I was

like, ah, 30 bucks. Cough plus 100. So yeah.

That is one incredible toy by the way masterpiece

never thought it. I didn't think it was worth

the money I only got it because I made out so

well as a trade night. Yeah, but uh, yeah, he's

amazing Yeah, he looks amazing He can do the

the the the the mad dino pose kind of like classic

scrim locked he can do the real pose Like if

he has his head up you click his feet down in

dino mode his head goes down He can open his

mouth to push a button. It snaps shut You know,

the light up accessories. You can basically swing

his tail, swish his tail back and forth and he

rotates his mouth and stuff like that. He's very

animated, you know, in the sense that he can

do a lot of motion. He has a lot of range of

motion. I'd definitely put him up there past

any other MP mold besides Prime. Definitely put

him in Prime up there. They used a lot more diecasts

in the right places. The only the only comment

I have on it is watch out where the tail folds

into the body in robot mode Because if that tail

touches the little pin that's in there it scratches

off the little you know chrome polish so you

might want to nail polish that off, but There's

a little tutorials around the web you can search

for that, but do you think that? fans project

will ever like approach Hasbro as far as becoming

like official and we will actually get real stickers

for those for those figures or for anything that

they do in the future? We could always get referral

labels for real stickers but um I from what I

can understand and what's been going on with

TFCon is that Hasbro isn't really interested

in them they respect them for what they do but

they're not looking to like trying to make a

joint venture with them you know so I think their

future with TFCon looks very bright. I can't

wait to see what they have for next year's exclusive.

Yeah, that'd be awesome. But yeah, it's definitely

worth the drive. I know a girl who drove, I think,

I'm not sure. I know it was three days over a

thousand miles, so. Wow. Yeah. I mean, that's

dedication, you know. Oh yeah. You want dedication?

Look at some of the people that are probably

going to drive. from obviously up where you are

in the midwest here, or you know, mid -south,

midwest, whatever you want to call it, here in

Kentucky. Look how many people are probably going

to end up driving out to California if they can't

afford the flights. I mean, you know, it's just,

and I understand why they're having it in California

because obviously the movie and getting the actors

and... I'm betting that there's going to be a

whole lot of people associated with past Transformers

stuff that's just going to show up, not even

be announced as special guests because... They

got Weird Al. Yeah, we covered that in the last

eight... I think it was in 22 or 21, I forget.

I mentioned it. But yeah, they got Weird Al,

and now they have the guy... The one chance I

get to meet Weird Al and I'm not going to Vokkon

this year. Well, like you said to me off air,

you know... I could go if I sold my entire collection,

but then you really wouldn't be a collector after

that, would you? Well, yeah, I would pretty much

have to liquidate quite a few things that would

make the collection, you know, rather not complete,

so... Ah, yeah. I mean, I would love to go just...

Go ahead. What's that? You'd love to go for what?

I'd love to go just to see Stan and Vince perform

together. I mean, if that was all that was there...

Just those two that that would be awesome for

me just to see the two of them perform together,

but I mean David K is gonna be there weird Al

David K is a great guy. I have met him at several

bot cons TF cons all those things cyber con whatever

bot con and Took a picture with him very similar

to the Cullen one where I'm like next to him

like pointed And then I think in one of the animated

threads that had got started off on the boards

I put the little caption and you cannot resist

the power of TFA You must buy them all because

I was just I was just hooked on animated I didn't

know how it got me, but it got me and I was hooked

so then so I go fast forward to 2008 I get in

the line for the autographs with bumper Robinson

and David Kay and Tonya strong and Tara strong

rather and You know, he's like, hey, how's it

going? I remember you he's I'm like what you

know that these guys remember you if you like

talk with them a little bit or give a little

some They remember you or they'll act like they

remember you. It just makes you feel incredible

That said, Tara Strong wasn't the friendliest,

but I can understand her being the only girl

amongst all these guys, you know, sizing her

up or whatever, so I can understand that. Plus,

she does play a 8 -year -old to 16 -year -old

girl on the show, but anyway... Yeah, I I think

I mentioned this on one of the other all things

transformers episodes I wasn't at first I didn't

understand TFA the first season because when

I first heard about it was right after the movie

came out live -action movie And I had heard a

rumor that it was gonna be a continuation of

the movie line story And I was like I was like

oh my god. I am NOT watching this crap forget

that and then the other thing is The first two

seasons they were on at 1030 in the morning Who

the hell is going to remember 10 .30 in the morning

on a Saturday to watch a cartoon? I mean, Saturday

morning cartoons were always about getting up

early and watching them. I don't know who decided

to move it to 8 o 'clock now for season 3, but

that's just awesome. It's a heck of a lot better,

and I've actually watched every episode. Yeah,

it's perfect. That's perfect. I don't have to

be at work until 9, so I don't have to leave

until 8 .30. I have enough time to watch it,

you know? It's nice. Yeah, it's just awesome.

It's also very scary that there's only like what

like three episodes? I hate this is why I hate

machines and endgame part one and two. Yep And

I am not and I've said this before I haven't

said it to you But I've said it before on on

on the podcast here I am NOT believing that there

is no season 4 unless Derek says it himself on

Twitter Or unless Cartoon Network comes out with

or Hasbro comes out with a press release You

know Hasbro and Disney have merged together to

make a cartoon channel. You mean discovery not

Disney Sorry. Yeah, I knew about that. I'm actually

very, very tired and need to hit the bed. That's

fine. Because it's going to open tomorrow, but

yeah. Yeah, we'll cut this short. It's right

at 30 minutes anyway. That is nice. It's also

nice they're doing the G1 DVDs. I think that's

great. I cannot wait until that complete series

comes out. I can't wait. Oh my god. They're supposed

to have coverage of it at the... At BotCon. at

BotCon, yeah. I said to Steve in one of the other

podcast episodes, BotCon could make a killing

if they videotaped everything and put it on a

DVD. I would pay 20 bucks to see a DVD coverage

of BotCon. The dealer room, all the panels, and

some - That's what the vlogs are for. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. I know. So you don't have to pay. I know,

but I mean, just still. I mean, just if there

was an official BotCon DVD every year, that would

be so cool. I think. Yeah. Alright, well, I think

that's gonna wrap it up for our little convention

coverage on all things Transformers. I'd like

to thank Optimus Scourge for being here, even

though he is dog -tired and he's going to bed,

hopefully. And of course, Hilly. That's good,

that's good. Thanks for having me on. We'll catch

up later. See you folks later. Bye.