2023 Transformers Brand and Collector Wrap Up

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Hello. Well then, it's been about two and a half

months. It sure has. Yeah. So we have a ton of

stuff to get through tonight. First two things,

Transformers 1. As of Christmas Day, the Toyline

street date has been revealed. It will be September...

August 1st is when the Transformers 1 toys will

hit for 2024 in time for the release of the film

on September 13th of 2024. And apparently there's

gonna be a new gimmick line for the movie titled

Transformers 1 Prime Changers. Each toy is priced

at 60 bucks. However, do bear in mind that this

price tag is from an overseas listing that TFW

2005 received. Actual prices in the United States

may vary. Prime Changers, isn't that similar

to what they did like... years ago the one -step

changers or something I don't know so there's

something yeah something so there's that and

then way back in October they Hasbro had applied

for various trademarks for entertainment services

namely the production and distribution of the

motion pictures toy an action figure toy vehicles

toy robots convertible into other visual toy

forms etc downloadable games, printed children

activity books, things like that. So Transformers

1 for the 40th anniversary, they're going all

in and getting the Transformers brand back to

kids when it comes to the media and entertainment.

Not that it wasn't already, but it just seems

like, hey, it's been 40 years, let's reset. Which,

hey, maybe they need a reset. I don't think this

is gonna do it. I really don't. I feel like...

Feel like they're gonna do like the prime changers

thing. I feel like that's gonna be the Gimmick

that we got with You know prime and bumblebee

and those guys having like an add -on that makes

them come a beast mode Like I don't feel like

we're gonna get anything of substance out of

that Like I feel like that's what the prime changers

are gonna be now when you say you feel like He

says out of that. Do you mean we as in us old

people or children? I don't think anybody's gonna

get anything of substance like in general like

Those those leo prime or bubble bird or you know

things that were kind of floating around from

the rise of the beast All of its shell forming

like a majority of the rise of the beast stuff

is still on the shelves like in full stock and

To me that's that's very telling not only one

of two different things, there's too many price

points, too many options, and there's too many

gimmicks. They had too much going on during a

lot of these recent, between Earth Spark and

Legacy and the Studio Series and Rise of the

Beast. I feel like there was way too much going

on. and they essentially deluded themselves to

the point that people just didn't care or they

bought what they wanted and then the rest of

it has been sitting on the shelf. A lot of it.

I mean, there's still the Studio Series 86 Starscream

sitting on shelf because they refuse to clearance

it out. Like there's there's so much of these

figures that are stuck on the shelves. I don't

feel like Transformers 1 is going to save it.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's no Beast Wars, or we don't

know if it's going to be any Beast Wars, but

do you feel like they clearanced out the older

Studio 86 stuff that people would actually buy

it that don't already have it, or has everybody

that wants that stuff already gotten it? I feel

like the boat was missed on it. I feel like a

lot of people got it when it first came out,

and then it's kind of been meh ever since. Now,

I've not seen... Now, whenever an Optimus Prime...

hits like for instance uh laser optimus prime

or armada optimus prime those are gone in an

instant that is affirmative any any of those

you know the word for cybertron like any of those

primes are gone everything else is fair game

to sit on the shelf yep and i've seen armada

megatrons i've seen a lot of the legacy stuff

is still on the shelves that has been out over

the last year or two. A lot of the Toxitron series

stuff is still shelf -warming. I feel like we've

hit this kind of plateau, not only of just people

losing their jobs and, you know, the economy

tanking and then things costing more. And I feel

like we've hit this point of how many times that

we're going to milk G1. And for that instance,

I mean, Beast Wars 2. I mean, when you're doing

the reissues for one, none of those have sold.

They're still holding onto Wolf Fang. uh from

at the walmarts and they they're selling them

for they were trying to sell them for 27 when

they were new the reissue of that figure now

granted it's not that impressive of a toy i was

interested in it just because i wanted to mod

it but i wasn't willing to pay 27 for it i'm

still not willing to pay 20 which is what they've

knocked it down to and all of them are sitting

in clearance At every Walmart I've gone to and

it's hilarious to me that they just won't get

rid of them same reason when we had the reissue

optimus primal and beast Megatron and I found

one in the store of the beast Megatron in clearance

no doubt for They had him for 18 or 9 or I think

it was no it was like 20 29 in their clearance

aisle and I found it online for 12 and they wouldn't

sell me the one in the store for 12, even though

it was sitting in their store. And it was fulfilled

by Walmart on their online thing. So it's like,

what's the difference here? Looking back, I should

have just taken it to customer service and made

a big deal out of it, but whatever, it is what

it is. I didn't really need it. I just was like,

oh, for 12 bucks, I'll pick it up. But I mean,

I think that's kind of the main thing here. I

mean, next year we're getting... Transformers

GI Joe mo bat optimus prime with general hawk,

which I think that will sell really well. It'll

be expensive though It'll probably be about 90

bucks like the the Megatron was for the his tank.

Yeah We're gonna get the general or the generation

studio series Voyager 86 blaster and eject Which

will you know be basically a retool of the the

legacy war for cyber trend stuff, which again

that'll probably sell Then like the mix mashers.

I don't feel like those are gonna do anything

I've heard that they're gonna have a studio series

86 optimus prime if they do that is going to

sell like hotcakes Everybody's gonna want one

and that will be so rare to get that you might

as well just pre -order on like BBTS or something

and just wait Oh, yeah amazing a booby trap that

actually catches boobies Now I I'm fortunate

where I'm at And with my job travels, I'm close

enough to enough Walmarts that I could take a

lunch break and I could go to pretty much any

of them. I mean, there's three within 20 minutes

of the headquarters of where I work. So I mean,

I could hit up literally any Walmart and check

it out. And for the most part, I'll probably

find what I'm looking for within a couple of

weeks of it hitting street date. Or sometimes

before it just depends but it's always at Walmart.

I'll see it ahead of time You know, that's where

I've gotten predominantly most of my figures

when I find them is Walmart and I'll find one

and then it'll disappear for like another month

or two and then they'll kind of flood in After

that and then nobody wants them by that point.

So again, I feel like a lot of these I'm cool

to see them experiment. I'm really hoping it

does well because otherwise, you know it could

hose the brand. But between doing Super 7 and

the retro figures that they charge an obscene

amount of money for and the R .E .D. figures

and a lot of the other merchandising they're

doing with all these third parties that are not

Hasbro and they're basically non -transformables,

I feel like it's overkilling the brand. So I

really don't... I don't have high hopes for the

brand as far as a whole. Like third party is

doing better than the brand itself. And they're

not even affiliated. My soapbox concludes. Well,

and that's really sad because like you would

think that they would want to... Originally,

folks, two and a half months ago, And this stuff

just started happening in real life for me, for

Steve, for whatever, nothing bad or anything

like that. But like, it's one of the reasons

why we didn't end up covering the 1027 Hasbro

event, because just we were busy with other things.

And I watched part of that stream and I'm like,

okay, this is gonna be cool. That new poster

is cool, but... None of the things they revealed

at the 1027 event would be anything I would want.

Like, I get it, it's a 40 year old brand. Like

you said, yes, they are always going to G1 it

to death because it's G1 and that's where it

started. But that event showed off a bunch of

things that are like from RID and all this other

stuff because those anniversaries, the Armada

and the Energon and the Cybershrine anniversaries.

20th or whatever anniversaries are coming up

or upon us or whatever past or whatever and I

don't Know where the brand overall is going to

go like You know this the audience listening

the sound of my voice knows this I am a huge

Nostalgiaist I always have been I always will

be but like you're saying there's only so much

you can go back to and do there's only so many

times Even though they're going to do it because

they know That like you said the the 86 series

86 optimist that's gonna sell like hotcakes And

it's gonna become super rare and everything else,

but that's because it's optimist friggin prime.

It's a tftm optimus prime and i don't know i

like that it's still around but if transformers

needs to go away for look at masters of the universe

masters the universe went away for six years

from 2002 slash 2003 to 2008 2008 is when the

the classics the original mattel classics line

came in On on Masters of the universe they went

away for six years and all of a sudden No, because

they went away. They're like, oh wait, this is

back. This is great. So hey Don't think somebody

said to me. I forget who it was. I don't think

it was you. It was somebody else Recently about

I wonder if they've actually ever taken a Couple

of years off and in the last 40 years, I don't

think so Maybe you could maybe say between 92

and 96 between the end of G1 G2 beginning of

Beast Wars, but they were still selling stuff

Well, they didn't technically because if you

count right the UK They were coming out with

new Transformers figures that eventually got

rolled into part of G2 and part of machine wars

Like and then they came out with Beast Wars around

the time that they retooled some of the UK stuff

for In some of the G late g2 stuff for machine

wars, right? So yeah, I like if they move the

direction of machine wars I feel like they could

salvage the franchise and start anew without

Creating like they have like complete freedom

to create a whole new untied universe there yep

I don't know I don't know my two cents but we

will have some Beast Wars some of its sprinkling

out now like snarl or He's he's basically a Tasmanian

devil. It's it's snarl from the Beast Wars line

But he's like Tasmanian kid from Beast Wars second

or Beast Wars neo or something. I'm not sure

which But I'm interested in that. It's a core

class. I used to have the original this one just

looks cooler. I it's If I saw it I might pick

it up, but I'm not gonna go out of my way for

it and the same thing with They're coming out

with a new like the first time they've tackled

the fuse or since Beast Wars They're coming out

with a new Voyager class silver bolt Which again

I may or may not just depends on you know, like

I'm not gonna go out of my way But if you know,

I see it at the storm possibly it's gonna use

the wings tooling from Airazor and in terrors

or so that'll you know, allow them to fold up

his wings But I mean it'll be a cool figure in

general to see kind of hit the hit daylight there.

And then we have the Tiger Hawk, which I've heard

there's issues with quality control. Not surprising,

but again, I mean, we are talking about yes,

they seem to hit that 90 % mark where something

is awesome. And then that 10%, they drop the

ball. Mm -hmm, whether it be paint whether it

be a face sculpt Transmetal to legacy Megatron

It It's it's so bad like a third party Not trans

art, but a third party came out with a knockoff

oversized Transmetal to Megatron That's basically

an upsized legacy figure with premium paint that

looks just like it spit out of the show and They

they've given him a better face sculpt which

is basically taking the Transmetal Megatron's

head, you know and shoving it in the the Dragon

tail they fixed the the dragon tail where it

attaches to the head So it doesn't look like

it's just this weird, you know arm sticking out

Like they have clips that actually attach around

the part now So I mean like they've improved

it but the only the main gripe with people is

You remember the the other third -party? Dragon

Megatron I had at one point. Yep This figure

is an inch and a half taller My god knockoff

oversized legacy like it's not The one that I

had was almost verbatim spit out of the show

other than like the head sculpt was kind of weird,

but It was basically verbatim spit out of the

show this one the legacy oversized Overall is

But it still takes that artistic influence of

the you know, the the legacy line like war for

Cybertron did so I and it's and it's like a Fraction

of the cost it's like just under half of what

the other one that I did have is, you know for

the cost But my you know, and it's basically

double of what the standard release legacy figure

was My only gripe with the legacy figure is the

paint sucks And they put the wrong face sculpt

other than that like I don't I don't hate the

size Like the the massive size is the only deterrent

for me on those third -party ones If it was in

scale with optimal optimists from trans art Sure,

I'd go that route but They've a lot of them are

so huge I've got the regular masterpiece and

the trans metal. I don't want the dragon masterpiece

bad enough to take up that amount of space because

the other two are the ones that i like but yeah

i've said it before and i'll say it again the

only dragon megatron i've ever wanted is that

the cloak Okay, well, yes, technically beast

machines, but the only like red dragon Megatron

I've ever wanted is that damn statue that they

had at that one convention a couple of years

ago. That big ass - The Prime 1 studios. You

mentioned the silver bolt. I will lump that in

here with the Rhinox. I think we already talked

about these, actually, now that I'm looking at

these pictures. I think we talked about these

in a previous episode, but folks, it's been two

and a half months. I barely remember yesterday.

But the Voyager Silver Bull official images starts

back in October. He looks really good in robot

mode. He looks good in both modes, but I love

the robot mode more than the flying wolf mode

a little bit. And then that Rhinox, man. just

give me the chain guns of doom pose and that's

all I need like and it's there then we got again

I think we did talk about this at some point

again refresher folks for us anyway at least

for me Takara told me transformers dramatic capture

series nemesis bridge shockwave megatron and

sound wave official images and these things just

look cool Like even the tank mode on Megatron

like just that I Think that's the best g1 tank

mode we've ever seen. Yep. The thing is that

that tank man whoo So there's that You mentioned

the 40th anniversary retro reissues for Blaster

and Soundwave, so those are coming. I like some

of the newer articles now, because the one I

pulled up again was from October, but some of

the newer articles where it shows, like, not,

it's not necessarily in -hand images, it's, um...

Guess it is Side -by -side comparisons or somebody

did a did a thing where it was like This is what

this blaster looks like and then this is what

the new one looks like. It was really cool seeing

the differences between The two Gary Chalk and

David Kaye both put out their 2023 Christmas

greetings Those which is always cool. Yep You

gotta watch Gary's first and then watch David's

because David mentions Gary's. And with Gary's

holiday greeting at the end of it, he did a little

remembrance of Pauline Newsome, who was the voice

actress for Air Razor because she had passed

away this year, which is very, very sad. And

then James Zetok over at Serial Geek TV unearthed

the Transport to Oblivion original studio sessions

of Classic Transformers. So the original voice

session, so that was a cool listen, I listened

to that. I listened to it more than watched it,

but yeah, so there's that. And yeah, then we

get into the comics, because the comics are back,

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Toycast. So have you had any Inkling to check

out the comics have you looked at any of it other

than the things that I've sent you about the

stuff I Have not checked them out, but that's

more so more so because I don't have access to

read them Okay That's that's more. So like why

I haven't checked them out not that I'm not interested

I just I haven't come across it so having not

read it yet I'm just kind of waiting But yeah,

I mean I it's I I wish them luck and all the

best in it, but yeah, I have no frame of reference

I mean, they're they're doing reprints already.

So it must be doing well for them. So but But

yeah, so we're gonna go in order here a couple

of months because of solicitations for January

coming up next month Bring his Transformers issue

number four to the Inter -Gyne universe for location

schedule via previous world. When the Decepticons

attack the Autobots at their weakest moment,

an unlikely new hero joins the battle. With human

and Transformers robot lives at stake, can Optimus

Prime unlock the true power behind the Matrix

of Leadership to save them both? So very very

cool written and drawn by Daniel Warren Johnson

Colors by Mike Spicer John by Myers is also on

colors and when our sona And then on various

I think this was a panel somewhere in this article

they talk about how like I how dependent the

energy on university titles are on each other

and mango it says is hopefully early is going

for the Four main series right now that we're

not overloading you if you want to pick up everything

It's affordable if you don't you're still going

to get full sort of virtual experience if you

just follow the void arrivals or transformers

on the level of violence because the skybound

books are pretty violent Joshua Williamson, I

assume this is Joshua Williamson. You read issue

on Transformers and it's a little bloody. It's

a little violent. So as I'm working on on these

books, I'm like, oh, I see how it is. How much

more blood can I put into this book? And yeah,

it's not your... the Skybound books are not for

kids. At some point Skybound will do Transformers

comics for kids, but I don't think that's what

the Energon universe is for. The Energon universe

is for... for us. And then the artist on Void

Rivals, Di Felici, says, out of all of us, I'm

the one that's less fueled by childhood nostalgia.

I'm fueled by my curiosity for distorting these

worlds because I'm from Italy. Transformers there

were big, but not as big as here. For me, it's

very exciting. Every time whenever Robert Kirkman

sends over a script and there's some name that

I'm not very familiar with. going around and

looking for references, it's always like a discovery

because I know Transformers, but I'm not that

familiar with the surrounding world of them.

With some of the designs, I want to be as respectful

as I can, but at the same time, I like to give

a little spin or a new vibe or something. So

yeah, that is that is very cool. So Transformers

number four hitting stores in January. and then

was announced the free comic book day 2024 special

discover all three new stories from Transformers

from the energon universe with stunning revelation

for the world of the transformers g .i .j .o.

and void rivals from the biggest names in comics

this is one of the energon universe's most explosive

stories yet but what else can you expect from

a comic starring the baddest decepticon of them

all said Sean Makowitz SVP publisher Skybound,

the launches of Void Rivals, Transformers Duke,

and Cobra Commander have reminded fans and retailers

just how fun and surprising a comic book shared

universe should be. Now this free comic book

day special kicks off our second year of stories

by making sure everyone gets a chance to check

them out. So yeah, they've got four series going

on currently. Void Rivals is kind of its own

thing, but Transformers It's all connected but

void rivals has original characters to it. It

has its own original story Transformers is transformers

and then the Duke miniseries and the Cobra commander

miniseries I just saw as of this recording on

Instagram one of the guys talking about the Cobra

commander series on An Instagram reel where he

was like, yeah the Cobra commander book wasn't

even really in the plans and then we were like

Well, what if we make it a horror story? He's

I'm not kidding like I will send you the real

so you can check out But I think I might have

sent it to I don't remember anyway But the point

is the Cobra commander series that they're gonna

be doing it. I think it's just a miniseries I

could be wrong. But yeah, they they want to lean

into the horse. So again a Johnny verse for adults

Which is cool because that's that again, I know

it's something like they'll go back down the

line especially once we get to transform on next

year and do all of that. So in February, we've

got Transformers issue five. Starscream revives

one of the most powerful Decepticons to eliminate

the Autobots once and for all. Dun, dun, dun.

So that's gonna be interesting. And this is just

still the first arc because the way that they're

doing These stories is they're doing it every

six issues. So void rivals Has had its six issues

transformers by Arch will have its sit mark 24

will have its six issues and then the next new

arc will start Speaking of which, in March, Transformers

number six, end of story arc, like I said, one

will stand, one will fall. The Autobots versus

the Decepticons, this is it, and someone isn't

going to survive. And then, uh, the new story

arc for Void Rivals starts with number seven.

Derek and Selila traverse the northern wasteland.

Danger lurks around every corner of the Void

Rivals. Corner of the Energon universe continues

to grow as Proximus is on the hunt. Dun, dun,

dun. So yeah. I am very excited. I'm not, like,

I'm interested in the G .I. Joe stuff to see,

but I'm - More and more excited for what void

rivals is doing and what? Transformers is doing

because it's really fun. Hey What was that? I

said, okay, okay I think that's all we have for

the end of the year Anything any good I was gonna

say I mean, I don't know if we touched on, you

know Masterpiece Rhinox Coming out We did I mentioned

about the think we did yeah, I mentioned about

the chain gun of doom pose There's a course show

Z has Some more release photos of some new figures

Aside from the they call them the the legacy

upscale knockoff Oversized a trans mental to

megatron is called black mamba rdl one winged

dragon beast. Which you know whatever cool. And

then of course you know they have tarantulas

for trans art they're still working on dino bot

trans mental to they've got like. Test images

with you know just. Quick print and it looks

spectacular, but he's the same size as like Transmetal

Megatron. Right. So I'm like, I don't need another

10 inch figure and then silver bolt is like seven

inch and so and I think tarantulas is like six.

They've got a silver bolt coming and they've

got a quick strike coming. Although they've released

the release photos of their masterpiece quick

strike. Now. and Looks pretty awesome. I mean

shiny paint accurate head sculpt accurate paint

job a lot of the same Transformation maneuverability.

I mean it's not that much different than the

original figure To warrant, you know, if you

have the original, I don't know if I would go

out of my way. I mean, he has the shoulder pads,

which the original release doesn't. It's got

chrome on it, which I find it hilarious. Trans

Art is doing VAC metal and theirs just looks

spectacular. And Hasbro's like, ooh, VAC metal

bad. Yeah. They're like, it's I think it's twofold.

I think one, they don't know how to make it last

long term. And I think the other thing is, is

that they too cheap. I don't I mean in trans

art stuff don't be wrong. It remains to be seen

how long the back metal lasts On these figures,

but there's a lot of posability a lot of maneuverability

you can Yeah, this trans arts knocking it out

of the park with their Their Predacons like they've

got ravage. They've got you know, transmittal

black arachnia. They've got transmittal tarantulas

quick strike Megatron They're working on a transmittal

to Megatron Dino bot rampage depth charge, you

know various other ones Honestly, like if you're

gonna go masterpiece and you're gonna go third

-party trans arts the way to go I'm I'm tempted

by it, but again, I've had to look at things

objectively. I'm like, do I need this? Is this

something that I have to have? Megatron, obviously,

I'm going to go after, but I'm at this point

where I'm limited shelf space, don't know if

I care enough. But it's definitely cool to see

now there is another third party Robot it's called

robot toys rto to tyrant Beast Wars transformers

Megatron and Don't yet know what he's going for

They say fourth quarter 2023. I think it's more

likely beginning in next year. They don't have

paint painted colors of him like full paint they

have like kind of test shot unless this is really

the paint that he's gonna have in which case

i'll be like pass but um but if they if they

paint him up and he looks cool it's more of a

roboticized version of his original form yeah

so less of the fleshiness of the the beast form

and more of like like how grimlock is and transformers

Yep, but he's he's basically a five inch figure

So a little bit bigger than core class a little

bit smaller than deluxe but looks spectacular

and honestly depending on cost I may pick this

one up and then review it but But yeah, so I

mean plenty of plenty of awesome stuff. I'm waiting

for trans art to hit beast machines Because once

they run out of trans metals, there's only one

place to go. Cloak! Cloak! Cloak! Cloak! Cloak!

Cloak! Cloak! Yes, I would love that. They missed

the ball too with their trans metal optimal optimus.

Did they? Yeah, they could have had a Beast Machines

Megatron head. True. True. They so missed the

ball on that one. I was like aww. But, yeah.

I think I've mentioned this before. I don't think

it's ever gonna happen. You really can't turn

what I want. Can't turn Unicron into what I want,

but can you imagine? Even if it was a $600 item.

giant beast machines head megatron the same size

as unitron the dishwasher size that would be

amazing it would be that would be amazing so

let's cut through the signal noise shall we alright

folks hope everyone had a good holiday season

We're looking forward to the new year, the 40th

anniversary of the brand and everything that's

gonna be coming out next year for Transformers.

This year we got the Bay films done next year.

I don't know what the hell we're doing for specialty

stuff. I do know I want to get back to some more

HTTF Origins at some point. It's just wrangling

guests and all that, so... Anything else from

you, sir? nope all right well I think you can

close it out then Megatron so thank you for joining

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