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Star Wars Blood Ties: Jango and Boba Fett & Boba Fett Is Dead Review

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TFG1Mike and Ryan Hoser from Star Joes dive into Dark Horse's Blood Ties volumes, exploring why the Fett family has captured fans' imaginations despite their brief screen time in the films. They discuss the photorealistic art style of Chris Scalf, trace Boba's origins back through Jango's sacrifice, and follow adult Boba's pursuit of bounty hunter Connor Freeman—a mission that unveils surprising family connections and forces Boba to confront the cost of his chosen isolation. The story examines legacy, blood ties, and whether these legendary bounty hunters can ever truly separate themselves from personal attachments.

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poll bag the time has come execute order 66 hello

and welcome to the poll bag this is episode 66

and of course ever since that certain um third

prequel We always have to here at the GCRN use

order 66 for any episode 66. And in this one,

I, along with my co -host, who I will introduce

in a moment, are going to be talking about Star

Wars blood ties. I have the two trades, volume

one, Django and Boba Fett, and volume two, Boba

Fett is dead. I am your host, TF2, and Mike,

and joining me is from Star Joe's Ryan Hoser.

Thank you for having me on the show. Happy to

be here. Yes. Now you guys have already covered

these on Star Joe's, which I didn't know at the

time when I asked you about it, because I figured,

oh, he's a Star Wars guy. I'm sure he hasn't

gotten to this before. Pretty much anything that

came out from the time we started our show, which

was 2010. God has it been that long. anything

that came out Star Wars related, G .I. Joe related,

Transformers related and so on that came out

from 2010 until now we have covered on the show

as far as comic books go. Yeah, yeah. Now my

main motivation for doing these books as the

first Star Wars coverage here inside the pullback

is The Fets have never I've always heard everybody's

you know scream their praises of how what great

characters They are one of them got to get his

head cut off the other one got eaten by a monster

How awesome are these characters again really

come on now? I mean seriously I mean, one of

them got decapitated by a purple lightsaber.

Come on! You don't like the purple lightsaber?

Come on, man. No, I love the purple lightsaber.

I just think it diminishes the character of Jango

Fett that he got killed by it. I will say, I

think the big attraction was initially... Boba

Fett in the original trilogy was obviously a

super minor character in the Empire Strikes Back.

You think, yeah, he's super minor, exactly. He

had like two lines. And what happened was people

just gravitate towards those characters. I mean,

we see it even in the prequels where people gravitated

towards Darth Maul who had a little bit more

screen time but had very few lines. He had a

full -on battle and killed a damn Jedi. He did

a... Darth Maul is way more popular than Boba

Fett. True, but still very few lines. But what

happens, I think, with a lot of these characters,

and it happens all over the place, is someone

sees the character and goes, oh, he looks really

cool. And then they go, I'm going to like this

character. And then what happens is the... the

mass media out there that's producing stuff,

goes, hey, people like this character, let's

do something with him. So I honestly think it

just goes to him being that strong, silent type

that looks cool in a costume. And I really think

that's all it was. I agree he was like comic

relief in Return of the Jedi of him flying off,

Boba Fett at least, flying off and falling into

the Sarlacc. But then there has been a whole

mythos in the expanded universe. universe, often

referred to as the EU, that has really built

up who this character is and who he was and things

like that. And obviously, these books relate

to who he was and who Jango Fett was and stuff

like that. Now, see, for me, I guess you could

say I'm a casual Star Wars fan. I still have

yet to, even though it's right now on Netflix,

I still have yet to even crack the Clone Wars.

Not that I don't want to, I just... You're missing

some good stuff. I know, I know. You know, I'm

a fan of the films and that's pretty much where

it stops. I mean, I can like the toys and I can

like certain things about the franchise, but

the films were... where my fandom was. I had

heard of the EU and everything else, and I had

heard a bunch of horror stories about certain

parts of the EU and how some people think that

they screw a lot of stuff up. Well, I will say,

to give you my background, I was two when the

first movie came out, the first Star Wars movie

came out, so I didn't see it. in the theaters

when I was two, of course. But I believe if memory

serves me right, I did see it when they re -released

it the year right before Empire came out. They

re -released it in 79. I was four years old at

the time. And I think I went and saw it. I know

that I saw Empire Strikes Back in the theater.

And I know I saw Return of the Jedi in the theater.

And then, obviously, I've seen the other movies

in the theater and everything else. But then

I didn't really follow the Marvel comics at all.

I picked up a few issues here and there. I really

didn't start reading them until I was much older.

But what really got me back into Star Wars was

the Timothy Zahn book, Heir to the Empire, which

is the best place to start. Those books are phenomenal.

He did a trilogy, and reading that, he got the

characters right and everything else. And from

then on, I picked up every book that came out.

I started reading the Dark Horse comics. I now

own every... Novel that's come out other than

the youth stuff And I own every into one form

or another I own every Dark Horse comic that's

come out and have read all of them I have not

read all the books, but I'm working on that.

Um There is good there is bad. Um, but you get

that with Everything I mean you get you get that

with Marvel you get that with DC you get that

with any series that you're reading If it lasts

long enough, I should say you're gonna have your

good stuff and you're gonna have your stuff that

you're like, yeah, that's not so good I'm just

waiting for a Very goofy Iron Man Vader to fight

Mickey Mouse Hulk Luke. I will go see And because

you mentioned Dark Horse, and I believe, I don't

know when, but apparently Marvel and Disney have

reclaimed from Dark Horse the Star Wars stuff

at some point. I'm not looking at any information,

folks. I don't know when this is supposed to

happen. It'll be 2015. So they have the contract.

Dark Horse has a contract through 2014. and in

2015 Marvel then has the rights. I don't know

when Marvel's planning to produce, if they're

looking at January 1st or if it'll be sometime

after that, but it is 2015 when Marvel will take

over. Now, when I was a kid, because I'm slightly

younger than you, I was too busy being born and

young, like super young when Empire came out,

and so... And by the time Jedi came out, I was

only three. So yeah, I've never seen these, the

original trilogy in theaters at all. I've actually,

I've seen two out of the three prequels in theaters

and they weren't ones that I wanted to see in

theaters. I wanted to see the third one and I

wanted to see revenge in theaters, not the other

two. I'm sorry like I get they wanted to show

Anakin's and and Padme's love that oh my god

that scene oh Christ that scene is so long Now

I will say well number one I wanted to ask you

so you did not get to see the original trilogy

in theaters when they did the re -release the

special edition ones I'm assuming no I didn't

even get to see him okay I I don't know what

it was I was When did that happen 97 yeah, right

right about 96 97 yeah, 96 97 yeah, I was at

the time 1617 so I was too busy with you know,

just getting into high school and stuff like

that And by then, I was really hooked on the

Power Rangers. So yes, Star Wars was pretty much

a backseat. And honestly, I remember as a kid

watching a VHS. It's a video cassette, ladies

and gentlemen, a VHS copy of A New Hope. And

I was like, episode four? Where are the other?

Where are the other? Wait a minute here. We're

missing something. What the hell is going on

here? And then at the end of the movie, I was

like, wait, that's it? That's all? Well, and

two, you have to... I don't know if you know

this or not, but when the first Star Wars movie

came out, when it first hit the theaters, it

was not called Episode 4. It was just called

Star Wars. And it wasn't until Empire came out

and they did the re -release that I had mentioned

earlier in 79 that they actually put the Episode

4 on there with A New Hope underneath it. So

that... That's why that kind of happened. But

yeah, I mean, for me, Star Wars has been my life

ever since I was four years old. And I can't

imagine not having Star Wars in my life. Hence

why half of my show is. Star Joe's. The star

is not for Star Trek. It's for Star Wars. But

I have reference books. I have action figures.

I'm deep into the black series, six -inch figures

that are out there right now. It's my passion.

It's something I've loved my whole life, and

it's probably the thing I know the most about.

I will say that I... Am okay. I know everybody

covets Empire. I get it. I really get it Okay,

and I'm not gonna say a bad thing about that

movie, but for me and how my brain thinks I like

the connect the dots so Revenge and return are

my two favorites. Okay, because revenge sets

up what I had already seen Episode four because

the whole time even even later in life, you know,

I don't know maybe ten years ago sure I was like

Okay, so revenge sets or when did we're I don't

even remember what it couldn't have been ten

years ago. Oh, yeah It was revenge was I think

if I remember right 2003 Was it really oh My

god, I am old. I want to say it was 99 for Phantom

Menace 2001 for clone attack of the clones and

2003 for revenge I'm not sure I have to look

it up because I let's see revenge of the Sith

release date oh no 2005 2005 okay wasn't 10 years

ago it was close whenever yeah okay let's let's

rephrase this here uh 2007 there we go uh somewhere

around 2000 god people are gonna kill me for

that uh somewhere around 2007 um is really when

i went back and went to watch revenge of the

sith and uh I, what I love about it is it's everything

I had always wanted to see from A New Hope. Like,

okay, well, okay, Luke is adopted and his sister

is, well, obviously we, well, yeah, by then we

would have known who his sister is. You know,

Luke is adopted, his sister was adopted, but

how did that happen? Like, so for me, Revenge

and Return, because Return pretty much sets up

a new, at the end, sets up a new era of peace.

to whatever they're going to do next year or

whatever the hell. So those are my two favorites.

As far as the rest of the... I still enjoy Star

Wars and Empire and Return of the Jedi. I still

very much enjoy them. Phantom menace and attack

of the clones They're probably two of the like

as far as plot and like how to set up the character

of Anakin Skywalker Who are the worst movies

I've ever seen? The effects the action all that

stuff great. I loved all the stuff sitting up

Obi -Wan I love they finally showed us the damn

Clone War that they kept mentioning in episode

four uh... but all the stuff of anakin all my

god he i he's almost as he's almost worse than

email peter from the bring spider felt right

Now almost now the one thing I will say like

for me return of the Jedi is my favorite if you

had to put a gun in my head and ask me which

one's my favorite that's the one I typically

would just say Star Wars and when people say

what's your favorite I go the original trilogy

and they're like which one out of that then I

say return of the Jedi so You have to like push

me to actually say return of the Jedi and it's

just because I am a good guy and I like seeing

the good guys win and in Luke looked awesome

as a Jedi Knight and The Java scene is my favorite

scene in all of Star Wars from the first whole

20 minutes of from them being in the palace.

Oh, the intro. I thought you meant the other

scene at the end. No, just the whole, you know,

him, you know, them coming into his place, having

a plan, having it all mapped out, and then they

get on the skiff and they fight over the sarlacc.

Like that whole first 20 minutes of that movie

is just like my favorite thing in Star Wars.

the whole flipping in the air, catching the lightsaber,

that's great stuff. Empire's probably next, Star

Wars is next, because again, it's the original

trilogy, I love all of it. Then you have Revenge

of the Sith, then you have Attack of the Clones,

then you have Phantom Menace for me. I like the

prequels, I don't love the prequels. I agree

with you, the special effects are awesome, all

that type of stuff is awesome, but I feel like

Lucas forgot the thing that made the original

Star Wars awesome, which was the story and the

story kind of falls apart in places and the thing

i've always explained is the original trilogy

has really awesome moments with an awesome story

the the prequels have awesome moments not necessarily

an awesome story. And because there is moments

you're just like, wow, Darth Maul's fighting

the Jedi. And while you see Yoda flipping around

using the lightsaber, we've always wanted to

see something like that. So there's cool moments,

but they're just not really put together. Well,

Revenge of the Sith is definitely the best one.

There's still moments in that that just destroy

me. Give an example of one. Vader doing the Frankenstein

and going, no, like that. OK, yeah. And not handle

that. The whole, you're killing me, Anakin, with

like, she's basically dying because of a broken

heart. No. So that stuff I can't handle. There's

continuity. It causes continuity issues for me.

Like the whole late when Luke talked to Leia

and says, you know, do you remember your mom?

And she goes, yeah, I remember her. I was very

young. She but she was she was kind but sad.

It's like, well, Leia actually never did know

her mom. So I don't know why she would know that

her mom was sad because her mom died. So well,

let me ask you this. Do you? because we all know

mothers and babies have a strong bond before

the babies are born do you think maybe it was

me okay i'm you didn't really stretch for that

you know i mean you know um i mean i think that

was probably the only time that i felt that that

portman did any real emotion sure um that character

yeah and I think she's a good actress overall

I think she she and other stuff I've seen her

in I think she does a good job but then not so

much the biggest issue I have with the prequels

is because the mistake I think they made is they

should have just started off with Anakin being

a teenager yeah they should never went to the

little kid no midichlorines and no midichlorines

yes I agree keep it magical keep it mythical

Yeah, that's what it don't bring science into

this crap. Yeah, I don't need it I don't need

you know what obi -wan Kenobi and Yoda explain

the force the best way which is you know, that's

an energy field that surrounds us and binds us

and that's all I needed to know and and that

there's people out there that look know how to

control it so That I didn't need more of an explanation

than that. I was I was good with the force All

right, so we are going to take a quick break

And then we'll come back to talk about Star Wars

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Star Wars blood ties Django and Boba Fett the

front cover for the trade is basically Django

and Boba Fett in their uniforms They look is

that a camera on top of their helmets what is

it or maybe it's a radio antenna I I don't know

Let me take a look here It's the front cover

of the trade I don't know what get that's the

other thing that I I will say before we get into

talking about the story the one thing that kind

of disappointed me about the trade is that it

has several illustrations which I assume were

the covers of the individual issues yeah but

it doesn't have like an art gallery where it

shows you like alternate covers if there were

any or the covers like I love when trades do

that and they have some sort of art gallery in

the back like IDW's TMNT does that amazingly

yeah I will say I don't believe there there weren't

too many alternate covers I don't think it was

until we got into Boba Fett is dead that there

was a couple alternate covers for the first issue

but the regular blood blood ties Django and Boba

Fett that that was just Think the if I remember

right the cover of the issue was the cover of

the issue and that was it As far as you're talking

about that little antenna thing off of on each

of their heads Yeah, yeah, it's kind of a tracker

It'll actually flip down to help them like a

site almost it'll come down, but it can also

be used as a radio antenna Okay All right, so

This is the first dark horse book I've Well,

outside of Tomb Raider number one, the more recent

Tomb Raider number one by Gail Simone. This is

the first Dark Horse book that I've really read,

especially in trade. And it starts off, it has

the people who worked on it. It has a script

by Tom Taylor, art by Chris Scalf. Yep. Letters

by Michael Heisler and cover art by Chris Scalf.

And on the opposite page here it says, the rise

of the Empire 1000 -0 years before the Battle

of Yavin. After the seeming final defeat of the

Sith, the Republic enters a state of complacency

in the... Waning years of the Republic, the Senate

is rife with corruption and the ambitious Senator

Palpatine causes himself to be elected Supreme

Chancellor. This is the era of the prequel trilogy.

The events of this story take place approximately

22 years before the Battle of Yavin. Wow. Well,

you have to understand, just like many geek fans

out there, Star Wars fans want to know when does

stuff take place. And I agree, but setting it

1 ,000 -0 years before the battle? Those are

eras. So there's different eras in Star Wars,

and there's essentially the prequel or Clone

Wars era, which is from 1 ,000 years before Battle

of Yavin to 0 years before the Battle of Yavin.

Oh, OK. And that's what it basically is. There's

the Old Republic era. There's all these different

eras. And that's what it's referring to. This

particular story takes place 22 years before

the Battle of Ebon. Which is always the zero

point for Star Wars. Well yeah, that's true considering

what the film did. Blood will out. The bonds

of family, or the breaking of those bonds, affect

the course of history. Wars have been fought,

governments have been fallen, and tragedy has

been averted because of one person's blood relation

with another. Though not actually father and

son, Jango, Fett, and Boba Fett share the same

blood. Literally. boba will discover that decisions

made in Django's life have impact long after

his death. One of Django's acts in particular

is about to have a powerful impact, something

that begins when boba is a child while training

with his father, is destined to continue when

circumstances bring the past to the present and

to the attention of Boba Fett. Now I just want

to let everyone know what I just read is actual

text in this book. Both the Rise of the Empire

paragraph and this paragraph is actual text.

So, we get to the first issue and it's a Jango

Fett, basically rocket firing towards the camera.

Oh boy, that toy is super expensive. Oh wait,

not the Jango version, the Bulba version. I gotta

say, right off the bat, I love the photorealism

of the art. I mean, the first page. It's not

as bright and shiny as say a Batgirl issue. It's

not the style of the Transformers comics. It's

a very photorealistic style. Now the only thing

I will kind of compare it to is right after Wrath

of Khan 2 .0 came out IDW put out Star Trek number

25... whatever the number was that where it was

after the dark. It was supposed to take place

where the... it was the issue where... I don't

know. I don't know you're talking... I know,

I know, I know. Basically what I'm trying to

say is the only other place that I've seen this

photorealism type of art Is in a Star Trek comic

it was the Star Trek comic from IDW's ongoing

that came out right after Into darkness came

out and it was it was it was a story entitled

after the dark and it was basically how Spock

went through puberty. Okay, I put it somewhere

I put under the level of like an Alex Ross because

Alex Ross to me is like the pinnacle of that

photorealistic look but still higher than oh

who's the one artist that's out there that gets

flapped because he basically draws like he uses

Models no, not Liefeld the model he uses like

models and stuff like that. I can't remember

his name right now But there's a there's an artist

out there that does a lot of x -men stuff now

that he was basically using life Models and everything

else for so everyone had these cheesy smiles

on their face and stuff like that was very photorealistic

Chris Scalf we actually put as in star jobs.

We have our awards every year and Chris Scalf

We actually nominated the year this came out

for one of our best artists of the year He was

just it was I loved the art in this. I thought

was fantastic Overall, yeah, there's moments

where it's a little yeah It's got it's got its

moments But for the most part the art is is really

what pulled me into the story because it got

like you said, it's not Too shiny. It's not too

pretty. It's got a little bit of grit to it Yeah,

yeah. Yeah these beginning pages do Now we start

with and I kind of like this and I kind of don't

it's not just because of this story but it's

with any medium where you start at one point

and then and then Bugs Bunny says i remember

just like it was flashback you know and that's

happening a lot more in comics these days uh...

yeah it is all right so uh... the first page

is basically adult boba fed surrounded by all

these people you don't know who they are what's

going on and uh... And you know his his monologue

is you know, I'm surrounded. I don't fear these

people I have known true fear and fatly flashes

back to when he was a kid and We see him and

his I'm just gonna call the guy his father. I

don't care if he's a direct damn clone. He's

his son Yeah, I mean that's like saying that

Terry McGinnis is a clone of Bruce Wayne right

technically he is right, but he's is That's one

thing that kind of irks me about clone stuff.

It's like oh my especially when you have like

parentage It's like oh god. Just say they're

Well, and I will say a lot of times Django Fett

is referred to as the parent of the clones the

father of the clones because right is I mean

Yeah, so He's the father of all the clones right

technically he could be a special victims unit

Criminal from law and order yes, but anyway let's

not go that dark road so we've got We've got

Django that he's telling boba to stand still

and he's teaching him a lesson here a lesson

in in fear and he's basically going to make him

afraid now when he's a child so he will fear

nothing the rest of his life and we see uh...

which is on others it just cracks me up to because

it's kind of like i'm sending him to my kid does

death pretty much yeah but uh... But yeah, it's

tough love, let's call it that. An extreme version

of it, yes. Let's call it that. We turn the page

and we see Sean Connery's dragon heart. I swear

to God, as soon as I saw the face of this monster,

I'm like, hey, is James Bond's voice going to

start coming out of that thing? It does look

like it. A little bit. and jango tells him go

bring a tooth back uh... and and boba is just

like what's uh... i do love how idle there's

certain comics that i've read since i've been

reading comics full -time since october of twenty

twelve there's certain comics where i really

love the the contrast between dark and light

scenes yet and there's certain ones that i'd

just like If a scene changes color automatically,

depending on whose style it is, I just can't...

Several of the Hawkeye My Life is a Weapon, the

Mad Fraction series, several of those start off

in one color and then immediately the next page

is a complete... I cannot stand that kind of

color change, but this I actually like because

it... It shows you that because they're in this

cave, right? It makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense

this monster is is out in the open and and we

do all this stuff and he goes and gets the tooth

and He even asks him. Why why would you do that

to me? What do you think of young Boba using

the jetpack? I don't mind it too much because

they've kind of in like Clone Wars the animated

series and they even made an action figure like

that. He uses the jetpack. Granted it was after

his dad died, but I mean he's trying to I mean

Django's trying to train train him to be Mandalorian

basically and they use jetpacks and so I was

like I Hope and from what I what it seems like

in this issue. It seems like he's had some training

with it already Because I can't imagine sending

him in like here's your first time with the jetpack.

Go get a tooth Yeah, no, he said some training

with this already It's very evident It's a little

bit of foreshadowing which I kind of like it's

like look he's good I mean everyone knows he's

gonna be flying around in this thing is Boba

Fett later on so oh, yeah, most definitely You

have faced the Bayleg, you need never fear again.

And he really doesn't. That was one lesson. So

we get back to their ship, they're taking off,

and we see Scaramunga. I will say again the photorealistic

of this specifically on dooku He looks just like

Christopher Lee. So I love that about this. Yeah

He's like could you ask the boy to? And he's

basically sending them on on on him on he's basically

giving them a hit yep to go carry out and I love

how they kept the ship I love I As much as I

don't care for Boba Fett in the films that ship

was awesome. Oh, yeah the slave one. Yeah, yeah

very very awesome uh so they basically uh dooku

basically sends them to go kill this this mysterious

guy dooku wants to give them more information

but jango says nope don't need it just you know

just pay me and it'll get done yep just pay me

and it'll get done you know this is business

it's not personal right um I love the next scene

when they approach the planet The landing fee

negotiation can this is Django Fett and you see

the guy next to the rookie like oh I need to

go to the bathroom because I get a check my shorts

Yeah Great good for you. Now, you know your own

name now Elmio, are you crazy? Prove to me, you

know, you'll have to prove to us that you are

Django fit and he blows some Does he he doesn't

blow up their own? Oh, he blows up the shit landed,

right? Yeah Okay, I was gonna say he doesn't

blow. Yeah. Okay. That's all the proof. I would

need Yeah, I wouldn't even ask I mean for fear

of you know and blowing up the I take the red

shit Yeah, really why take the risk? so They

have to go hunt for this for this guy and Boba

wants to go with him doesn't want to be left

on the ship and And and Boba makes an interesting

point of you know, who's gonna steal your ship?

Yeah, I'm Django says something the effect of

well, you know It's it's something always trust

your intuition Boba. It's something stupid people

forget to do Mean so far. I'm loving the story

even though I didn't really care for either one

of the characters in the films Yeah, so far.

It's It hasn't like turned me around to the way

the characters were in the films, but to the

context of this story I'm loving it. I think

it's great. Oh, yeah, I I don't think that the

characters are the super badasses that everybody

you know assumes that they are just because of

two scenes in two different films, but So they

go looking for the guy and they they basically

they basically find him and Jango does something

that I Didn't oh My god, I could never Wow. He

basically makes boba kill the guy. Oh, yeah That's

crazy parenting Well, yeah. I mean, I know this

is fiction. You're also not a trained bounty

hunter and this is his job. It's dead or alive

and you're bringing your, not to sound like Robocop,

dead or alive, you're coming with me. But you're,

I mean, you're raising a kid and you're a bounty

hunter and you're bringing your kid with you.

He's going to see some ugly stuff. So. And if

you want to raise him to be the guy that takes

over after you or teams up with you later in

life He's gonna have to learn how to shoot things

to me It's almost and I know it's a total different

level because it's a person But it's almost the

same level as a as a hunter taking their kid

out to shoot their first deer It's it's really

to to jangle fed it that it's at it's that same

level. So Yeah, so Boba Fett kills the guy And

I love the effect of the shot because You know

you switch to the next you know you see you see

the one page where he's targeting the guy and

then the next page is basically Him holding the

the rifle you see a straight -on straight -on

shot blur blur and and You know BAM, but you

don't see like you don't see a BAM. You don't

see some crazy Batman pow you don't see it's

Blurry is the effect that you want for the oh

my god. I love that. That is I Had to readjust

my eyes about my eyes were going when I saw it.

I was like wait what? So after boba kills the

guy Django says stay here he goes down to the

house And he finds Finds the guy the guys isn't

Isn't dead. I thought he would be dead. Yeah,

but there's all that saved them. Yeah Apparently

so And this was another Django clone, yep one

that got away Yeah, this is crazy. This is this

is what makes this story so good And this kind

of sets up the whole thing. Can you really shoot

someone who looks like you can you really you

know? Imagine you're facing yourself and you

had to pull the trigger. Yeah, that's Apparently

the clone says no I wouldn't be able to and apparently

Django doesn't have that And he sees that He

has a wife and child and yep, and he says This

child that's his yes, please don't hurt him a

boy. What's his name Connor Connor Freeman Freeman

dot dot dot Which I love the name of the last

name Freeman because this is a clone that escaped

and He's a he named himself free man basically

So I thought that was a nice little thing to

throw in there Yeah Why why do you have my husband's

face? I don't understand and because you don't

understand you get to live And because no one

paid me to kill you I Honestly think it would

have been more powerful if he hadn't said that

last line I I don't I don't dislike the line

of you know and no one paid me to kill you, but

I think that Because Django understands something

she doesn't You know the whole clone thing. Yeah,

but I think it sets it up for not only Django

Fett for Boba Fett they don't kill just to kill

they kill because they're being hired for a job

and had he been paid to kill her like if he'd

been paid to say kill this person and Anyone

associated with him. She'd be dead. It doesn't

matter that she has a kid It doesn't matter that

you know, she's a woman. It doesn't matter to

him if he was paid to kill her she'd be dead

Yeah, that's true So, you know Boba keeps asking

him what happened and what happened they're leaving

and Basically to get his son off his back. He

lets him fly the ship. Yeah, he says I'll tell

you later Which he never did obviously later

never came My father and I never got to speak

he was murdered by a madman I Understand why

Boba says this mm -hmm, but I I don't see mace

window as a man that has a madman I Right, but

he is also a kid yeah, that's true. I mean this

is a traumatic moment for him you see your father's

head chopped off and and I We always laughed

on the show because I said I would have found

it humorous. And this is why they, of course,

didn't do it. But when he picks up Django Fett's

helmet, I think it would have been hilarious

if the head fell out of it. Oh, no. That would

be even more traumatic. Come on, Ryan. Wow. I

would have laughed. Wow, you are a sick bastard.

Yes, pretty much so. The only complaint I have

about the recreation of the decapitation is that

does not look like Samuel L. Jackson. And maybe

there's something involved with that. Maybe they're

not allowed to use his likeness. I don't know.

Maybe. You know, maybe. So we get to... We get

the other line is I would have avenged him I

would have killed the man who took my father

from me, but this too was taken from me referencing

the fact that Mace didn't have unlimited power

right I still love that scene. I love the transformation

from Senator Enjoy that more than when Darth

threw him off the balcony So we then We then

transfer to an adult Boba Fett and we get a whole

new adventure. Yep It's very very interesting

and and now see seeing this here. Mm -hmm. I

can see how bad -ass boba -fed is. Oh yeah. Seeing

how he is through the rest of the story, we're

gonna go through this, there's not much left

of this one, but you know, the fact that the

banker basically tells him this bounty is on

a man called Connor Freeman, that's not a large

bounty. Yeah. The name isn't familiar to you,

should it be? Thought your father never mind

and basically Bova says look tell me or else.

I'm gonna shoot your nose off. Yeah, I Can't

imagine what it would feel like for an alien

to have I mean look at that The barrel of the

gun is almost up into his brain. Yeah Okay, it's

gotta be uncomfortable Biggest booger ever Wait,

that guy doesn't have a nose. Well, he does,

but he doesn't. Hey, he's a turtle! Let's not

go there. So... And I love the fact that, you

know, so he obviously he takes the mission. And

or, you know, the contract because he's curious

as to what the whole deal is, how does it connect

to his father and all that. And I love the whole

I believe it's next week. We see Connor Freeman

actually in the bar and just kind of hanging

out there drinking. And there's no he's sleeping.

Yeah. And he's he's got a guy and also someone

comes up to collect the bounty on him. And and

it kind of shows that Connor's a little bit of

a badass, too. And he just takes the guy out.

Yeah, I love this scene because he's like...

Where is it? You're worth quite a bit of money,

so wake up. This guy look friendly, Quinny? Nope.

You got a blaster? Yup. If you kill anyone other

than this guy, you're picking up their tab. And

basically, eyes closed, left hand over his right

shoulder, basically. Kills the guy. Yeah You

know very nonchalant way just like as if he was

swatting a fly away He's still he's still sleeping.

Yes He kills the guy in his sleep. I don't think

I've ever seen that in any of any media ever

Wow just So So basically Quinny makes him clean

up his own mess. Yep, and Then a bunch of other

people start shooting at him Now I will say and

I I thought this was just a damn Transformers

reference from the Marvel comics I think it was

issue five where shockwaves gun blasted is is

the the onomatopoeia that it was used was Chum

and I've seen Chum in a lot of a lot of the Transformers

comics recently with IDW I'm getting sick of

it and to see it here the fact that has nothing

to do with transfer I'm still sick of the day

I That is one vocal effect for you know showing

someone shooting something that I just don't

care for Yeah, I don't I don't mind it It doesn't

I mean that type of stuff never bothered me But

it's it's something where I I think it's to help

illustrate Obviously that the particular type

of gun at least when I read it in Star Wars and

stuff like that You do get different like sound

effect Type things that show how deep the gun

is or how you know, how small it is things like

that They don't just go with choon for everything

Transformers they do. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah anyway,

um, so these the League of bounty hunters, which

is comedic relief in itself the league of bounty

hunters is basically after him now and He runs

down into a basically a dead -end street. Yep.

And, uh, Boba comes up behind him and basically

swats the gun, basically just takes the gun right

out of his hand. Oh man, I love this. This is

so awesome. And like, and like you said, it shows

how this whole scene was like my, I think my

favorite moment in the whole story. Cause you

just have Boba Fett. has to face off against

these bounty hunters, which, like you said, are

fairly comedic that, you know, as far as their

buffoonery, they're not the most capable bounty

hunters. But there are a lot of them, and they

are surrounding Boba Fett. And he, as we mentioned

earlier, is not afraid of anything anymore. And

he just unleashes Hellfire upon them. Pretty

much, yeah. He pretty much cuts them down to

two. An entire army of bounty hunters cut down

to two, and they still call themselves the League

of Bounty Hunters. How the hell can you be a

League when there's only two of you? They were

gonna recruit later. Wow. I guess spring training

came late. So we we we get this and we get this

This interesting appearance of a certain Star

Wars character. Yes that I This is my probably

first time seeing him in actual media outside

of that outside of action figures, okay? So I

don't know the whole history. Ladies and gentlemen,

like I said in the beginning of the show, I am

a casual Star Wars fan. I am casual to the point

of I like the movies. So I know the name. I know

the design and all that stuff. With Bossk, I

assume is who you're referring to. Yeah. Yeah.

He's my second favorite of the bounty hunters.

He's just cool looking. I mean, that's... essentially

why I like them but yeah I mean there's definitely

some history between him and and Boba Fett and

obviously it's kind of hinted at in this story

that they have some history with each other which

is basically why Bossk is like look this is yours

now I'm good you go right ahead I love the line

from Connor he's like how does every single bounty

hunter in the galaxy know where I am and Bossk

says You're not hard to find you drink in the

same bar all day every day, but you're not worth

enough for me to get in the middle of this And

then they and then the lead says drop your weapon

which one which I can put the blaster down, but

that won't save you And then it basically goes

through his entire arsenal that he had oh my

god Which is why I love that scene so much because

you get to see everything he has available to

him Which is the only time I know of that they

really show all the weaponry that Boba Fett has

on him Yeah Yeah, the laser the flamethrower

the The helmet display, I don't know why that's

a weapon, but okay. It's been a long time since

I've seen any of the films. It's actually been

probably two or three years since we did the

super giant in total about five hours of podcasting

between episode 75 parts one and two for the

original and prequel trilogies. Did he ever use

the flamethrower in the movies? No, no. I could

have sworn I saw him do something. He shoots

a rope from his wrist, but he's never used a

flamethrower in the movies. Mini concussion rocket

launcher. Now, I'm sorry. Mini concussion rocket

launcher. Concussion to me means you knock somebody

out. You don't make them go boom. It's it's meant

for impact not explosion. So That's that's true

on armed fist not so much You know, I'm coming

around to Boba Fett in this story, yeah In the

beginning it set it up really well, he's his

father Basically objected him to some really

really shitty conditions as part of his training

So his father is basically as you said earlier

training him to take over And then at the end

after he's basically burned them all He's basically

burned them all to hell he basically Pulls out

a princess Leia weapon and uses mace on Connor.

Yes Knocks him out. He's easier Well your transport

when they're unconscious That's true So we go

back to To what I assume is is bobas Domicile,

I don't know if it's his actual home or I think

it's his ship where he just goes back to the

ship Yeah, you're right. It probably is the ship

Connor wakes up and He says I feel like I've

grown more thumbs I Wasn't expecting extra I

wasn't expecting this I was expecting extra thumbs

And we get this whole thing of the credits and

Boba mentions Django to him and he kind of goes

off because he assumes that Django is the one

that killed his father And Boba just tells him

Shut up. And then Connor basically says, you're

every bit the cold, heartless killer Jango Fett

was. You're not a son. You're a product. And

then basically, Boba tells him that he was the

one that killed his father. But technically,

I know young Boba feels that he killed him. Technically,

he didn't. He just wounded him. Yeah So I mean

it's it I'm not gonna take a point off because

of because of that You know little line in the

story, but well, and it's cuz he doesn't he doesn't

know he doesn't know what actually happened And

for all he knows like his mom could have described

to him Here's who you know he he just remembers

the he probably remembers the look of Django

fat And now he sees somebody else that looks

just like the guy that killed his father so He

doesn't know the difference between Jango Fett

or Boba Fett. He just knows here's a guy that

looks just like the guy that killed my dad. Yeah.

I'm kind of confused here with the next scene

because... Oh, never mind. No, I'm not. They

shot at it. Okay. Oh, the slave one is parked.

Yeah. That looks weird. Looks like a giant...

Insert Austin Powers joke here people Wow, yeah

that Slave one not so awesome when it's parked

Unless it would have parked like on the wall

like the conehead sleeping sacks on the wall,

right? So the quote -unquote League of the bounty

hunters Show up they take Freeman. Mm -hmm And

basically kill Boba Fett or believe they have

yeah believe they have yes So they take him believe

they've killed Boba Fett take Connor and and

head off to You know fill in the the bounty and

We see the the villain and we've seen his name

already before in the story He looks like a really

ugly bald version of the Emperor. Yeah. He kind

of looks like, well, like I said, bald. He kind

of looks like that ugly one from Empire Strikes

Back, not the real Emperor. The stunt double.

Yeah, the stand -in. Yeah, the stand -in. And

seeing him off -screen, now, you know, seeing

the color of his like, hey! Red skulls jumping

universes So this League of bounty hunters brings

Connor to them and and Connor basically says

that you know, I pointed that out to them that

they're not a league anymore You know, so we

then go back to Boba and he survived somehow,

you know so he survives we then get to he says

uh well it says the ice planet Solari home of

the crime lord Teyand and Boba Fett has pretty

much stolen oh that's how he is that how he escaped

he stole the stone yeah yeah okay You'd think

I'd know, ladies and gentlemen, since I'm looking

right at it. So yeah, here's where we get to

the scene where Connor pointed that out earlier

about the league. All this fire and ice, the

backgrounds, simply amazing. Really. Really love

it What do you think of the story here when they

get to to hands and boba shows up and and He's

basically gonna pay the debt. Yeah, I I as much

as I love the whole Scene like I said, my favorite

scene is the whole thing where he's surrounded

by the bounty hunters. This is my favorite like

I guess Twist or moment of interactions between

characters because he says, well, I'll pay what

he owes and then we can let him go free. And

the guy was basically embarrassed. So he says

no. And so then I absolutely love the fact that

Connor's like, I'll pay you. He pulls out what

he has and he goes, I'll pay you three credits

to kill him. And he's like, accepted. boom yeah

that that's awesome i'm like that that is that's

pure to me that's pure bobo fat right there like

that's the character i i love outside of the

the movies and stuff like that so oh yeah no

it was great it was amazing Yeah, I just looked

like I got like it's kind of like fumbling around

like I think he could have pulled out a button

and said I got a button But yeah, so basically

the guy who had bounty on Connor Freeman He's

gone gone. He's dead. No more a threat and Of

course all of his men then try to attack Boba

Fett and Connor and He happens to have a lovely

pet rancor Because you know all the crime lords

must have one and it's chained up and Boba Fett

shoots at it to basically make it angry he's

not really trying to kill it, but he like slides

underneath it and shoots its chains and and releases

it and it takes on all the henchmen for him,

so Connor gets shot yep And we then we see the

Boba sets just saying what what is this our way

out of here not yours though Patience Boba patience

now and he basically puts his rocket firing effect

on the guy and the guy slams in the rank or smell

I just love the I've been thinking about Metal

Gear Solid way too much ladies and gentlemen

over the last few weeks because I just love the

quite I could just hear the sound question mark

ding I can just hear the Metal Gear sounds of

the Star Wars universe so awesome So the rancor

basically it doesn't yeah it explodes The credits

you owe me three credits And boba says I don't

know why he chose to help me, but I doubt it

was out of compassion or guilt I doubt men like

him feel at all you may as well take it all he

won't be missing it yeah and Basically Connor

takes it and he says he asks him. What are you

doing? Getting a tooth I collect them for someone.

Yeah, you could understand what it's like Yeah,

so you have trying to make a dead man proud now

that's something we didn't bring up earlier because

Connor says it right Connor uses the you know

trying to make a dead man proud line Yeah, that's

something we missed earlier, but I love when

I was reading it I loved it to the fact that

boba uses it at the end. Oh, yeah, absolutely

and it's Love how it circles back with him taking

the tooth because we opened with him getting

a tooth. So yeah, it's It's a nice bookend and

I will say Tom Taylor's done a lot of Or not

a lot, but he's done a few Star Wars stories

in the past and obviously he's now doing a lot

of stuff for DC And every time I've read a Tom

Taylor Star Wars story, I know I'm going to enjoy

it It's just done very well and like I said,

he set this up. And one thing just to throw in

there is that Blood Ties was not meant to be

a Boba Fett story. This arc was meant to be a

Boba Fett story and a Jango Fett story. They

were going to then do other characters that had...

blood relations or ties to each other and then

this one was so successful and such a hit that

they said well let's do a sequel to it and that's

where Boba Fett is dead came into play and then

there was talk of them still going back to the

original concept of let's do some other arcs

with other characters that have blood relations

and they just never never got around to doing

that I don't know okay call me ignorant because

I don't know a lot of the expanded universe but

from my point of view from the movies I mean

really the only other blood relations are the

father and the siblings and you know I mean Vader

and Luke and Leia right well I mean you get into

the expanded universe you do have a lot of characters

that have ties to each other and I think that's

where they were looking to go because really

with this you have Boba Fett's from one era and

Jango Fett's from another era of Star Wars you

have the Original trilogy whereas you know you

have the same thing with a lot of other characters

and it and so I think they were looking to make

those connections of like hey this characters

related to this character and they've had and

their stories tie into each other in a lot of

a lot of ways so there is a lot of there is a

lot of descendants and ancestry that that happened

in the Star Wars expanded universe I honestly

would like after reading Django and boba and

now we're gonna go through Boba Fett is dead

after I read these books. I'm like I Need more

from boba and Connor. I mean seriously They were

awesome. Yeah. Alright, so Boba Fett is dead

once again, I'm going to Read the Rise of the

Empire once again 1000 to zero years before the

Battle of Yavin After the seeming final of Vita

the Sith, the Republic enters a state of complacency.

These events take place approximately one year

before Star Wars Episode IV and New Hope. Same

crew, Tom Taylor on script, Chris Scalf on art,

Michael Heisler on lettering. And yours says

one year? Yeah, okay, so my first issue maybe

it changes as the issues go on but my first issue

says it takes place Ten years before the Battle

of Yavin But I wonder if the last issue says

one year Yeah, that's what it is that I'm looking

because I have the issues the last issue it says

the events of the story take place one year before

the battle of yuen so the well right because

in the trades it's in the trades for jango and

boba the the first volume it's one through four

right and then for this it's also a one through

four yeah i i want it looks like it may have

been just a typo in the first issue um because

when i look at issues two three and four they

all say one year but the very first issue says

10 years So it must be a typo in that first issue

because I don't think there's a time jump or

anything like that That happens in the first

issue. So the just a typo in the in the issues

Yeah He is acknowledged as the galaxy's greatest

and most feared bounty hunter the stories of

his accomplishments are Legendary and the list

of his enemies is endless But even a quick resourceful

man might one day meet his match and if he's

outnumbered even the fastest man might be run

to ground and killed. However, Boba Fett has

not always been completely alone. Even he has

blood ties to more than one individual in the

galaxy, individuals who might take notice of

the announcement of his death. Dun dun dun! So

we open the first... I don't know, when I read

trades, I love seeing the covers from the issues.

One thing I noticed in this is they do one cover

and then the rest of it is the entire story Okay,

like there's no breakup. Okay Yeah, so what I

mean, I mean I like that I think that's cool

Yeah, there's some there's certain stories that

do that Like I know I read the Walking Dead comics

and I get them in the hard covers and the hard

covers don't break it up by Issues for the most

part pretty much. You don't know where one issue

ended in the other one begins But yeah with this

I do have I do have the issues I was getting

it while it was coming out But yeah, I like it

better when they break it up a little bit It

helped at let you know where that's that cliffhanger

was meant to be all along. So yeah Well, that's

what's so confusing when my buddy Joe Reed and

I do the IDW TMNT books now when we do the micro

series, it's like Chapters one through four one

through four Just say it's chapters one through

four right five to what a you know five to a

Anyway, all right. So Boba Fett is dead. We open

up with Boba Fett dead Is somebody there Laying

there in Boba Fett armor, so we assume it's Boba

Fett. It's a nice way to give away the ending.

I mean, we're not having to worry about spoilers

since these came out a while ago, but I mean,

Jesus, man. It's not the ending, it's in the

second issue you find out what happens. True,

but still, it's like when you first read this,

it's like... Boba Fett is dead, but that may

not really be him. Let's put it this way. If

you're reading this book and you picked up the

book thinking that Boba Fett actually dies in

this, you're kidding yourself. True, true. If

you'd like, I can try to do some of the synopsis

here since like I said, I do have these issues

in front of me. Sure, go for it. All right. So

as we said, Boba Fett is laying there dead. and

we he's surrounded by a bunch of like clone troopers

as well as some other surly looking characters

like a Greedo looking character, which is the

Rhodian species and I saw him later and I completely

missed him in the beginning when I was reading

the damn thing because when I I'm sorry to interrupt

you when I ladies and gentlemen, I've said this

before on the podcast when I am reading the books

to be able to talk about the story. I do pay

attention to the art, but I mostly pay attention

to the bubbles, for the most part, for the writing.

And I come, like when they kept mentioning Rodin,

Rodin, and then later I'm like... Hey, it's Greedo!

Wait a minute, where'd he come from? And now

that you pointed out and now that I'm looking

at it, oh wow. So technically, he did shoot first.

This one's probably not Greedo. True. So we and

we have a trooper that's on a do back and everything

else and they announced to this guy that Boba

Fett is quite dead. Then news. So then we flip

over to Connor Freeman, who's in the bar that

he I believe he owns the bar now. Yeah, he owns

the Cantina and he sees the news reports that

Boba Fett's been killed. And so he makes a toast

to everyone to Boba Fett. He says the next rings

are on the house and of course everyone loves

to hear that so yeah Really quickly go back to

that first page. Did you see the the two troopers

on the left? Yes their bike troopers from Return

of the Jedi That's awesome because I think wasn't

that the only film we saw that style. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I love that We do see it in the Revenge

of the Sith because they have more of the camel

look to them though But they do have that style

of armor and everything else so So Connor says

that he's he's heading out for a little bit and

then we flip through three weeks later on the

Zabrak homeworld, which is Zabrak is the species

that Darth Maul is and They say, you know, there's

this group of people that come across a cloaked

figure they tell him to get out of the way because

the captain is coming through and he basically

shoots them all. This is again what I was talking

about folks with the first trade. How you go

from the desert scene To the bar which the desert

scene is quite bright. It's bright blue sky It's

obviously all sand because it's a damn desert

and whatever else and then you go to the bar

It's a little dark and and then you know Connor

leaves the bar You go to this other world and

it's it's dark But the color palette has changed

to blue more than green like the bar. I love

it I love the color changes in that yeah, they

did a great job and So before he kills the last

one last of these guys he's like the guy goes

like do you have any idea who I am? And he says

you're nobody and kicks him off the bridge and

he goes flying to his to his death there So then

we see that a woman is speaking to Captain Sabar,

which was the who's the leader of the previous

troop guys and he's actually the guy that ordered

Globo Fett's assassination before and there's

word getting out that that there's been an accident

and they he asked do you think it's Fett related

and he's like and they're like no you know Fett's

dead so like I wouldn't worry about it this guy

looks like an older version of Ewan McGregor's

Obi -Wan oh yeah Honestly thought this was at

first Obviously, it's not And then we see that

that same cloaked figure show up on another planet

sathy sathy mon which is a new place I've never

heard of before and and he identifies himself

as Connor Freeman and He ends up attacking some

Troopers on due backs and one of them happens

to look very much like the the guy on the due

back in fact It is the guy that was on the due

back that killed helped in killing Boba Fett

and He yanks him off of his due back Who who

by the way just earlier he was? Beating on that

due back. So the due back obviously doesn't like

him very much. Yeah, no, you gotta take you gotta

take care of your Star Wars animals Yes Because

what ends up happening is he's left there with

the due back facing him and Armors taken from

him and he's like, I'm just gonna leave you here

Basically, yeah this cloaked figures like I'm

just gonna leave you here with your pet basically

He's like and the guy's like what are you doing?

He says you can't just leave me here. I didn't

even shoot Shoot at Fett. There's no reason for

payback and the guy goes. I think your due back

may disagree So so the guy returns he's got a

big duffel duffel bag now and he what is in that

I believe it's the stormtroopers armor okay yeah

because he wouldn't put it on right away yeah

okay yeah so then he gets into the his ship and

he he flies off and again the guy refers to him

as Connor Freeman that's the name he's using

and of course word gets back again that you know

there's been some deaths going on and the one

stormtrooper commander is dead and he was killed

by his own do -back. And that Captain Cybar notices

that someone's dispatching of Fett's killers.

Is he a captain or a senator? They refer to him

as captain, but he could be a senator too. See,

I could've sworn the guy that wants every trace

of Boba Fett... gone yeah the guy that looks

like Obi -Wan I could have sworn he was some

sort of council person or we'll get to it later

once we get to the ending of this and ending

of the story but I just know that they call him

captain sidebar so he could be captain and a

senator but it gets out and there's an announcement

over the news that the person who did this was

Connor Freeman and there's Connor going what

the hell and a true Connor knows better yeah

exactly but then a trooper comes in and grabs

him and yanks him into the street but just then

a ship comes flying in and burns Connor a bit

even though the trooper tries to push him out

of the way So then we get into the second issue

where we see Connor's actually Being in a back

to tank and he's missing an arm now his his right

arm was completely burned off and he's got a

like a cybernetic attachment By I believe this

is yeah, it was dr. Evison, which is from Star

Wars a new hope which I like that being thrown

into there Is that he was a real doctor? The

trooper pulls Connor out of out of the back to

tank and he says you know we have to talk and

Connor's like who are you and he's like not here

come on so he takes him to this little ship and

he takes off the helmet and shows that he is

actually Boba Fett and he explains to Connor

what actually ends up happening as he was tracking

someone down who then hid into a hole he then

got shot in the back but his jet pack saved him

and he was able to take out the guy that was

in the hole and he put his arm around the guy

and flew him out of the hole and all the guys

that were hunting down Boba Fett shot him thinking

that it was actually Boba Fett and of course

killed him and they thought they killed Boba

Fett and he just basically stayed in the hole

until they went away. Which I thought was a brilliant

brilliant move Yeah Because no they didn't bother

to take the helmet off because no one really

knew what Boba Fett looked like underneath anyways,

so yeah so Now is it just me or the the page

where he's telling the story of how we got into

and out of the hole Yes, the pun is intended

ladies and gentlemen Is it just me or when they're

sitting there do they look an awful lot like

I? Don't remember boba having that much hair.

They basically did he take Connor's I did he

take his Did you do some sort of joker plastic

surgery or something and give himself a new face

or something? Boba Fett looks different in this

than he did in the first one. Yeah, and I don't

know, it could just be inconsistency with art,

but also he's been on the run for a while. That's

true. So, you know, more hair. He's a little

bit less shaven than everything. Yeah, you get

transported to a distant planet and have to fight

dogs and wear a giant cape. You end up with a

super beard. Right. Exactly. So so we have Boba

Fett takes Connor to another planet and I love

the whole scene where Connor's sleeping at a

bar again and The bartender is like you can't

sleep here Like I can sleep anywhere. It's a

gift So he gives him some money Boba Fett in

the stormtrooper uniform Heads over to black

fell and he is basically hunting down some of

the troops that had tried to take him out before.

He causes a few explosions to occur, including

a giant tower, by putting some grenades in his

ship and jumping out with a jet pack. Connor

Freeman goes to find out some connections that

Boba Fett has and he finds this little house

on Concord dawn and finds this little girl and

I love the little girl in this I thought it was

told very well from a little kid's perspective

and I just caught you didn't yes exactly and

there's a woman Hey, it's Laura Croft! Yes, looks

a lot like her. Holding a gun to Connor's head,

and she basically says, I hear you're looking

for me, Cyborg. And he was basically looking

for some connections to Boba Fett, so that's

who he was looking for. When we get into issue

three, I love, absolutely love the whole scene

where Vader comes upon the trooper and orders

him and does not realize that it's Boba Fett

underneath. Well, why would he right just I mean

Vader has seen a million stormtroopers true,

but he can also sense stuff So we're supposed

to be able to sense things so But I just love

that like well It just plays so well that Vader

would come across Boba Fett and not realize that

it was him Back at the farm that Connor was at

the woman has him at gunpoint, but also They're

attacked by a bunch of Devronians, which are

the little guys, the guys with the horns that

look like devils in Star Wars. They start shooting

at them. And Connor says, I know this looks bad,

but they're not with me. Yeah. And she said she

yells to protect her daughter. They the daughter

actually blasts the land speeder that the guys

are on with like this cannon. Yes EMP cannon

type thing. Yeah She says my daughter doesn't

need a lot of protection They end up basically

having a big firefight and she realized that

Connor is actually on her side Because he helps

protect her Then we get back to the scene of

Boba Fett and he walks in on a whole garrison

or a whole unit of stormtroopers and this is

great because they realize that he doesn't belong

there and He points they know the guy that was

in that outfit is dead. Yes and I like how he

says Attack for they're standing there and he's

like it looks like we have a live target to play

with for training today men attack formation

seven and Both that says attack formation seven.

He says you have a formation that means line

up in front of the grenades Boom just blows them

all up and he gets out of there, but not before

he goes ahead and Takes care of one of the other

guys that had been involved with trying to kill

him. So We then see him head out to a Tidarian

ship, the little shuttle ship they have that's

in Star Wars often. I didn't even know this.

Is that a Tidarian or is that a TIE fighter?

There's a TIE fighter at the top of the page,

but the bottom... Okay, that's... Yeah, okay.

It's the Tiderian. Oh, yeah, I just... God, man,

I was paying way too much attention to the story

and not enough attention to the art when I was...

Wow, a TIE fighter, that is so awesome. And then

we go back to Connor, and he's in the little

home, and... He's having a moment with a little

girl and they're talking and he finds out some

of the back history and everything else and he

explains what happened to him as far as which

goes back to the first mini -series. Little glimpses

there. He basically finds out that this was Boba

Fett's wife at one time and that this is his

little girl. But as he's talking as Connors talking

with With the wife of both that they have a little

moment and they kiss And I can only imagine that's

not gonna be good for later But we find out that

The that captain or whatever or senator or whatever

he is he has found out that where about this

connection that Boba Fett had a wife and a daughter

and That now he knows how to hit Boba Fett where

it counts because he realized that Boba Fett's

still alive Well the guy it says He would have

been 30 today. Yep to Tachine And she says governor.

Oh, yeah She's a spymaster for governor Pyrton.

Yeah Pyrton, where do I know that name? Yep So,

not to say that you were wrong and I was right,

but you were wrong and I was right. He's still

called Captain Cyber, so... Well, yeah, that's...

You could be a captain and a governor. It's possible.

That's like... What the hell. In the prequels.

Oh crap. Isn't Palpatine called too different?

No He's champ. He's champ. Yeah, no, I'm talking

about his actual name. He's pal. He's Emperor

Palpatine and also The chance yes birth. Yeah,

that's yeah, that's see that's the thing. So

Palpatine and Sidious And then Dooku and Taranis,

so yeah, it kind of fits But I remember it more

as when they called him governor than I do when

they did captain. Yeah So then we get into the

last issue, which is where basically he's told

by the woman there, and I can't remember what

her name was either, but is that the daughter

is, Connor's told that the, oh, it's Cintus Bell

is her name. And so Cintus tells Connor that

the daughter, Alyn, her daughter Alyn, is actually

Boba Fett's daughter. He's in so much trouble.

She's like, my husband's dead, you know, and

everything else and he's like, actually he's

not. But then right then they get attacked and

there's a bunch of troopers that bust in. They

head towards like a... shelter like a Panic room

almost of sorts to protect themselves We then

get The slave one comes flying in which I thought

was fantastic And just starts blasting everyone

so Boa Fett has has arrived in full Boa Fett

armor and Boa Fett glory and He flies down in

his jetpack starts taking out the different troops

that are there. And again, this is just showing

how badass Boba Fett really is. And while this

is all going on, again, we have Connor and Cintus

and Alen all down in like a little bunker armory

type room. And they're hiding there trying to

stay quiet. And Boba Fett gets the drop on him

by Tae Chin. which was the female right -hand

woman. And he's like, you uncovered everything

about me, you found the only people I care about,

and you tacked them. He's like, you studied me.

You think you know everything about me? And she

says, yes. And he says, then tell me honestly,

do you seriously think there's any way you can

win this fight? No, and so she basically hands

her gun over Yeah, pretty much. She is now a

disciple of the Fed. Yes So then back at the

bunker Cintus Vell and Connor Freeman put on

some of the Mandalorian armor, which is pretty

awesome looking and they come flying out and

take out a bunch of the troops and The the governor

guy is there And he says you knew my son sent

us He would he was the only family I had his

name was Lenovar he was a lawman he was a protector

and your husband murdered him in cold blood and

So You know Connor says I understand wanting

to kill Fett But what twisted part of you decided

the only way to make yourself feel better was

to kill his family, too so they actually Uh,

he tries to attack them, uh, and Connor shoots

him dead. Boom. Gone. Yeah. But you're, um, you're,

you're skipping one important part here. There

was a reason. He just never shared it with anyone.

He kept the secret to protect me. Yes. I knew

Lenovar. You know what your quote unquote beautiful

son did to me. And she whispers something, which

I can only imagine that the guy raped her. Yeah.

Yeah. It's the only thing. It's the only thing

I can imagine. Rape or sexual assault or something.

My only question is, did this happen after Aylin

was born? That's my only question. It's interesting.

I believe so, because it seems like Fett was

kind of a family man at the time. So and maybe

this is the event that caused made him realize

he can't be tied to anybody. Thankfully, yeah,

he didn't go the route his father did with him,

right? And I could not like I didn't I don't

mind the little girl right her using the cannon,

right but I Would have been horrified if boba

went the same direction that Django did yeah

in training his daughter to do what he'd oh my

god Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, that would be horrific

to me So it really would be so then we get a

Boba Fett shows up standing over them and they're

in the little Pit area the shelter bunker area

and Connor asks Sent us if she's okay and she

kisses him and Boba Fett walks away a little

girl says you'll get space worms Because they're

kissing and that's yucky the little girls so

yeah and little boys of course, but uh so then

Connor catches up with Boba Fett and he says

tells him it's over the man who tried to kill

us is dead and your family safe and Boba Fett,

I love this, he's like, you kissed my wife. He's

not your wife anymore. He's like, no. Here. And

then he hands him a tooth. Connor hands Boba

Fett a tooth and he says, I remember that you

collect the teeth of monsters and I figure he

more than qualified. And he asks, did you see

Alen? And he says, yes, she's funny and she has

our eyes. That's a little strange to me. Like,

I get it. They're clones. They're clones of Jango

Fett. I get it. It's a little haha. It's a little

haha creepy. I mean, there's a lot of creeping.

And I guess that's why they decided to call this

thing blood ties. Because the blood ties everything

together. Yeah, exactly. I remember when I was

reading this, and when Cintas first came charging

in, when Alen said, you caught me, I was like,

hey, it's Lara Croft. All right. Let's see here.

We are going to go to a quick break. We're going

to come back with final thoughts, and we're also

going to rate these two stories after this. We

are back here inside the pull bag and to wrap

it up for final thoughts final rating In the

context of this story and wanting to see more

of this story and these characters that were

in these two volumes I Like Django and Boba Fett

in the context in the context of the films not

so much For blood ties volume one, which is Django

and Boba Fett I'm going to give it a four and

a half out of five. It's almost perfect. There

were just some things that just, they're not

bad per se, but there were just a little bit

of the, like, even though I love the art and

I love all the color changes and everything else,

there were just certain things that just didn't

stick with me. And I mean, you know, four and

a half out of five is not a bad rating whatsoever.

What about you for for me honestly with the first

one I would give it a five The reason being is

that like I mentioned as we were going over it

like this is the Boba Fett I've always wanted

to read and So to see him have those moments

with against the other bounty hunters to see

that moment at the end where he's like I'll take

I'll take the three credits and and everything

else like that to me is perfect Boba Fett the

art I thought was phenomenal If I could get Chris

Scalf to draw I think when we covered back when

we covered this issue on our show I said if I

could get Chris Scalf to draw all my comic it

she would love it so There's a couple there's

a couple areas of art where like faces get a

little wonky and stuff like that but overall

to me this is as good of a Boba Fett story as

I could even imagine reading so and volume two

Boba Fett is dead I really like this because

not only is it a continuation of the first series

it pretty much picks up right where it left off

and it shows you what Boba Fett has had to deal

with over his lifetime, the repercussions of

what his father made him do as a child, the fact

that he collects teeth for somebody, even though

we know he does it for Django, for monsters.

I think I will give this one a perfect I will

say the only negative thing and I we kind of

already mentioned this they might not have been

able to get the light mace window does not look

like mace window it's the only really gripe I

can say about Boba Fett is dead so I'm gonna

go ahead and give this one a perfect okay um

I would actually give this one a four out of

five and I'll tell you The big reason why for

me with it is I did love the story. I thought

it was great to show the family, the connections.

It gives more to the name Blood Ties than the

other one. But the thing that I have a problem

with with this is that if you did not read that

first miniseries. you're not going to know what's

really going on in this second mini -series.

And that's the problem I have with a lot of the

Star Wars books sometimes, is they will do multiple

mini -series and go, here's a number one, pick

it up and read it. And you can't just pick it

up and read it, because a lot of times you have

to have read the previous mini -series, and they

don't make that abundantly clear for you. So

that's my only gripe with it, is that if I was

to pick up Blood Ties Boba Fett is Dead, fresh

and been like, hey, I heard good things about

blood ties. Let me go ahead and read this. I

would be like, who's this kind of Freeman guy?

What's going on? And that's the only thing I

think is lacking. I would almost rather it say

blood ties part two, Boba Fett is dead or something

like that. So to make it very clear that it is

a sequel to the first one. Yeah. No, and I, I

agree. Actually, it was funny that, um, I had,

I had asked people, I said, Hey, look, I don't

care about the FETs. Make me care about them.

What should I look towards? And someone said

to care about Boba specifically, look at Boba

Fett is dead. And you know, I was like, okay,

cool. And then I saw the first volume and I'm

like, okay, well I'll get them both because they

look like they're a story that is, you know,

it's kind of like. Coming up from IDW, you'll

have Dark Cybertron Part 1 and Part 2 trades.

you gotta get part one in order to understand

what the hell is going on in part two. But when

the stories were coming out, the issues were

coming out, they did not make it clear. Yeah,

one, two, three, four, and one, two, three, four.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know why they just didn't

make it an eight -issue mini. And then just they

could have still done what they did with the

trades, which is great for me. I will say overall,

as far as the design aesthetic of the intro and

the first pages in the back of the book very

good very galactic empire looking star like I

can see some of like when when you open that

open either one of the trades and you see the

the He's acknowledged as the galaxy's greatest

and most feared bounty hunter that page where

they have the top board. It looks like a star

like something you would see. Oh, yeah. Very

much so. Absolutely awesome. All right. I know

you got to go. Where can the people find Star

Joe's? Sure. Well, one thing I did want to throw

out there, too, is if you're interested in reading

some other good Boba Fett stories, or Jango Fett

stories for that matter, there's Star Wars Jango

Fett Open Seasons is a good Jango Fett story.

It's a four part mini series. Enemy of the Empire

is a four -part miniseries that's very good.

You have Boa Fett basically going up against

Darth Vader, which is really cool. And then if

you ever want to know how the hell did Boa Fett

survive the Sarlacc pit, because he does. No,

he doesn't. Yes, he does. No, he doesn't. Yes,

he does. No, he doesn't. So there is two places

where you can read that story. One is... a book

called Tales from Jabba's Palace, which is a

bunch of short stories of various characters

that were in Jabba's Palace. And then you can

also read The Bounty Hunter Wars, which is a

three book story. And it opens up talking about

Boba Fett surviving the Sarlacc and Dengar. the

bandaged up guy, helping him to recover and everything

else. So both of those are good places to read

those stories to find out how and why that happened.

So yeah, I'm glad to hear that you've changed

your mind a little bit about Boba Fett. In these

stories, in the films, not so much. No, and I

understand that. As far as Star Joes goes, you

can find us at StarJos .com. And you can also

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Joe's podcast I just to throw out there some

things that we do we cover Star Wars GI Joe Transformers

all your favorite 80s properties focusing mostly

on the comics We do have episodes called star

Joe's the animated a real animated hero where

we go back to the GI Joe cartoons and We watch

them with adult eyes and have a lot of fun with

them We do, if you want more Star Wars, we do

episodes called the EU Strikes Back, where we

go over the Star Wars books, the novels that

have been out there, and we do relate the comics

back to the novels as well. So we kind of make

sure that people are understanding the whole

expanded universe and aren't getting overwhelmed

by it. And we just recently will be coming out

with an episode called previews and a half show

where we actually look through the previews catalog

with a star Joe's eye. So we're talking about

the books that are going to be coming out in

a couple of months that are related to our podcast.

So. For other Star Wars coverage here inside

the pull bag, I know people recommended to me

Darth Vader in the Ghost Prison. Yes, that is

awesome. There was another one. What's the one

that ties into the movies? Sith something? Sith

War? Yeah, there's a lot I could tell you. I

would say Dark Empire is fantastic. That is that

is one that I would put up there Crimson Empire

is really great Yeah, so over the course of the

podcast and in the in the year two of the show

We will have more Star Wars coverage not much,

but we will have more I'm just trying to look

here through Star Wars tales of the Jedi the

Sith War. Oh, that's one That's what? someone

had recommended to me. And I would recommend

reading that with the mindset that you're not

going to read any characters that you ever knew

from Star Wars. Okay, then it's coming out of

my wish list right now. I will still say that

is my second favorite Star Wars story ever, is

the Sith War. But if you want to read something

with the characters that you know from the movies,

read Dark Empire. Okay, Dark Empire. Alright,

awesome. Alright, so for the pullback I have

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