Star Trek #6-7 (IDW) – Action and Character Development Across Generations

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Hello, sir. Hello. Hello, hello. And we are continuing

on with Star Trek issues six and seven from IDW

Publishing. Colin Kelly and Jackson Lansing are

on the writing. Ramon Rosanas is on the art.

with Lee Lockridge being the colorist and Clayton

Cowles doing the lettering. The killer of gods

has been revealed, Caelus, eternal emperor of

the Klingon Empire. Oh man, so we start this

one out with Cisco being somewhere else. Yep,

yep, because if he's coming yeah, he's in space

spurs spurs Star Trek in spurs Star Trek in the

in the dark empty abyss that is space and he's

calling back to data because he's gotten away

team who was on this mission and They are the

feces is trying to go beyond the warps that they're

allowed to go beyond, apparently. The only thing

that was missing is she just kind of take it

anymore, Captain. Pretty much. Well, I mean,

you have Data here and you have, oh, who's the

red shirt? Oh, God, is that Paris? Yeah, Paris.

seven point eight seven point nine warp eight

i'm about to start getting red lines from everything

with a damn interface bridge uh so yeah they're

facing off against this living planet thing and

the away team is on the surface of this thing

and And this this issue, holy crap, like we were

talking about how the first five kind of set

up the first couple issues, set up the overall

story and all that. And three and four kind of

kicked into a little bit more high gear. Five

was kind of a cliff. This is like, OK, you're

here for the action. Let's go. And Cisco wants

to talk to this this planet thing. God to God.

What are you thinking so far? Really enjoying

it. Mm -hmm. I wanted just seeing them in a new

situation. Yeah Yeah, it's interesting seeing

them go against a planet Technical difficulties,

let's move on shall we Joker you're not supposed

to be here. Where were we? Come on artificial

intelligence or actual intelligence But yeah,

I mean this particular started the issue is actually

quite interesting between Cisco communing with

the, the aliens and then data playing captain.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And this whole entity

or whatever it is, that's, you know, how they're

saying about how they were left alone, all alone.

And, you know, I thought they were family. They

told me they were family and I will not be caged

again. And yeah, Cisco and company go through

a lot of stuff. I love is that that's crusher,

right? Which one reminds you of anybody when

she says, Ben, wherever you are, come back. Yes,

okay, that's that's what I thought it was crusher.

That's I like that I love that she's trying to

revive him and The the entities are like the

Cisco is needed no shit So we get an L cars red

alert from colony Hadana seven Catastrophic weather

report. System scan requested. So that's a whole

thing and apparently they're going to be targeting

Earth. Oh yay! Pretty much. So we get data and

Mr. Paris going through warp 9 .5 and the ship

is holding together for the most part. Again,

I love the art. I love the colors and the flashes

of stuff in here like the whole thing earlier

with Cisco kind of communing with the god and

like the whole white light stuff and oh man,

such great colors in this issue. Yeah, that's

one thing I've got to give them. They've done

really well with the colors with the different

things in space, with the alocars, with the characters.

Just everything has had just great shading. Yep.

So they have extreme distortion from the, what

does he say, nearby systems are in danger. And

yeah, we have data trying to figure out what

they should be doing. And ah, there's Mr. Scott.

The Theseus has a classified propulsion system.

Yep. It doesn't have trans warp because Scotty

always hated it. I don't know what you're talking

about. I looked over your designs as soon as

I was assigned, sir. It's incumbent on a First

Officer to know everything about his ship. Again,

this is what I love about this series and the

other series as well with warp. Characters that

we would never think to interact are interacting

and it's just like Scotty and data like I'd have

never imagined that my entire life Well, they

worked well together in relics, but yeah But

I like that he goes to proto warp Mm -hmm, and

then the the secondary warp nacelles come out

of the main ones Yeah, they do And then you get

Cisco feeling bad for leaving. Yep. And missing

all the things that he missed. And then you see

all the different starships. Yeah. And... It's

so good. You have this care and it's sometimes

it's hard in comics to notice this but and sometimes

Writers do a good job with it and they are doing

a good job with it here. But sometimes it's hard

to balance characters and Kelly and Lansing are

doing Jackson Lansing and Colin Kelly they do

a really damn good job of managing the scenes

between Scotty and mr. Paris and data versus

what's going on with Cisco and Beverly and Jake

and all that stuff out there. It's so good. And

then they break this into a diplomatic opportunity.

And Cisco tells Data that he would wear the captain's

pips well. Yeah, he does say that. And then Cisco

welcomes Dr. Crusher. And then finally they get

to Deep Space Nine. Yes, Deep Space Nine. The

one thing I really dug about this is kind of

in the middle here, the once bitten story by

Jake, by Jake Cisco. Really? I normally skip

by this stuff, but I wanted to know more about

his character and this Pretty much is a story

about his character obviously and I really dug

it I thought that was really cool that they that

they did that But yeah, I loved seeing deep space

nine show back up and then the cover art for

The next week has deep space nine in the background

and then you have Scotty data Cisco Yeah, your

crusher and Mr. Paris. Yeah. Yeah, and I think

what is he holding? What is Cisco holding? I'm

sorry. He's holding one of the orbs of the prophets

Okay, and I don't know which one because there's

like there's like half a dozen or a dozen of

them It's the red one Yeah, I know, but they

all do something different. So I didn't look

too far into that. Yeah. But yeah. What were

you going to say before I interrupted you? What

you liked? You said something about... Oh, I

just liked seeing all the different generations

sitting there. Yeah, no, absolutely. And that's

what's cool about this story is you have the

generations we know between Scotty, Data, Cisco

and crusher in Paris and then you have some of

the other characters that are being introduced

like His son what I again, I'm I'm sorry folks.

I'm on the edges of this universe So remind me

Jake was too young in the actual television show,

right? He wasn't this he was a kid in the show,

right? Well, he did age throughout the show.

So Yeah, he He did eventually get to the point

That yeah that that he was an adult oh Man and

I I can so hear every Brooks in my head at the

end of this But is it a mystery into which we

will boldly go I can so hear him saying that

That would be so so awesome to have him say that

that's so fun Yeah, issue six man action pack

issue really dig it love all the the character

stuff I love the action in it like we said the

colors are just off the charts crazy good so

is the art design as I'm reading these comics

I'm getting to know like okay sure I asked again

if this if that was Paris but But yeah, I mean,

most of the time though, I'm really noticing

these characters and it's really, really good.

I love all the alternate covers between Data

and Crusher. I think that's cool. They've got

another series that they're doing, Deep Space

Nine, The Dog of War. When is that coming? That

would be five issue mini series beginning. Oh,

it's already started. Okay. Well, yeah and it's

the pull bag is turned into Star Trek podcast

and this is what you were talking about also

which we will get to eventually Star Trek the

motion picture echoes a new five -part interdimensional

adventure with the original crew of the USS Enterprise

Interesting Very cool. Very cool. Very cool issue

six. What are your final overall thoughts? Just

a really good issue and I like how it kind of

is bringing things full circle and Cisco is like

I'm gonna come back Mm -hmm and and kind of live

a little bit Yeah, absolutely All right folks

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we are back here inside the pull bag as we are

marking down the countdown to day of blood same

creative team as Issue six obviously so the creative

team isn't changing. I love the the cover B for

this I love the original cover a I think the

cover a with all of them standing there with

that's great but issue seven cover be with data

and Beverly and quark and Between Cisco and Quark,

those are the only two things, only two characters

or things I remember about DS9. I remember a

lot about DS9, but I did a full run through like

a year ago. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. So we start

this one off where the, if I can get to it. So

many covers. That's one thing. I wasn't really

that thrilled with issue 7 It's not issue 7 small,

but it's the way IDW laid it out They put all

the alternate covers at the very beginning of

the book and I'm like you guys usually save that

for the end Yeah, I would have preferred they

did that. Yeah the first and second cover are

probably the best ones Yeah, and then beyond

that I was like, yeah But I love that they bring

Cisco in he meets his wife he meets his daughter

You know, they have a run in with. They have

a run in with Cork, Cura, yeah, and then and

then they bring in a tie into the lower decks.

Lieutenant junior grade Shaq's from temporary

assignment from the USS Cerritos. And of course,

his rank is lower here. Yeah, but it's still

it's cool to see him, you know other continuity

is getting pulled in now Yeah, that is interesting

and then we get the then we get a breakdown of

the Bajoran artifacts of the orbs. Oh Nice. Yeah.

Yeah, and a lot of them are redacted Yeah, or

unknown. Yeah Doesn't tell the color of them

but yeah, so That's They all kind of look like

that the image next to where it says star special

report Starfleet task force for the reacquisition

of the Bajoran artifacts and antiques they are

and this is just me and this is just what you

know how I am The gems all look purple in that

image to me. It's probably not that color obviously,

but that's what Yeah, that's that's what they

they did there But I think it's also funny, I

never grasped this before, but the Bajoran orbs,

the things open up there for the windows as well.

Oh, very cool. Very cool, very cool. And Shax

here is a Starfleet Special Investigator for

the reacquisition of the Bajoran antiques. And

Cisco asks him, then we don't know enough. Three

orbs missing without a single lead? Are you asking

as my captain or as the emissary? If you're going

to serve with me, Mr. Shaxx, you have to square

yourself with a complex idea. I'm asking as both.

Now I've never seen lower decks. It's just not

my whatever So this is interesting to me to see

this character because I this is again another

brand new character to me even though he's been

in a different part of the universe we get Scotty

and mr. Paris and who's the blue skin girl again,

I forget who she is So The rest of the crew here

in issue seven, they're going off to the Ferengi

place. They've got some classic hollow suite

programs that I think even, I think they even

have that one you're always talking about, Spaceman.

Proton, Captain Proton. And they don't have it

here. That one was one of mine, blah, blah, blah.

So Tom goes off on his own. They go to the Ferengi

place and he says, yeah, yeah, have fun without

me. then down the hall cheers wait it's brown

disgusting I love it and it's Scotty and the

blue chick what's the blue chicks name I forget

I know she's for this comic series and this is

kind of a testament on and this happens in in

standard Trek mm -hmm when a character isn't

fully fully utilized, you could say. Yeah. They're

easily forgettable as far as their name. Yeah.

And unfortunately, this chick is that for me.

And it, and it is a girl, right? I mean, I'm

not hallucinating. Okay. I just want to make

sure because the way that the bubbles are between

Tom talking to Scotty and like just like he Scotty

is, is holding the bottle, holding the glass

in the image, and she is looking at him, but

Tom is in the doorway, and Scottie is talking

to Tom, not her. And for half a second, I don't

know, it was weird. So we go back to where we

get to Tilar and Jake, and they're having a conversation.

I love seeing them have this discussion. Jake

says, it feels like I just got my life back.

A taste of adventure. Not sure I'm ready to go

back to typing reports on my pad. P -A -D -D,

people. A taste for adventure I can empathize.

You're not like a lot of Vulcans I've met. You

have met many Vulcans. So yeah, so they're having

a nice little conversation. This issue, I'm really

digging it because just like last issue in issue

six that we already talked about in this podcast,

it's partial story in issue six as far as like

characters, but it's all action. This seems to

be all story where we actually get to know. a

lot of these characters and I like that. I think

that's great. What are you thinking so far? I

like the interactions. I like that you've got

the mixture of generations in there. I think

it's funny the only ones doing any work are the

TNG crew. Exactly. Yeah. Because let's face it,

they carry track. Yeah, absolutely. And I love

seeing Cisco and his wife and his daughter and

all that. I think, again, characters of just

being able to. This is why I love comic book

storytelling is you have beats you have things

like say you get a 10 issue series or say you

get 100 issue comic book series. Each issue you

can have either a combination of story and action

or all action in one issue or all story in one

issue and. This is what I love about Colin Kelly

and Jackson Lansing about how they split up very

well between the two types. And it feels like

this is a complete story here with all of these

characters. Whereas if this was done in a movie

or a TV show, something would have been dropped.

Something would have had to have, you know what

I mean? Because a two hour movie, 30 minute or

an hour TV show, you're Your time limit is so

finite. Whereas in comics, you have, let's say,

anywhere between 28 and 48 pages per issue to

explore all of this. So yeah, very, very cool.

Absolutely love it. And we find out that Cardassia

Prime is under siege. And then we get the memory

alpha war record of Benjamin Cisco Yep Going

from his time as the Saratoga's first officer

during the Battle of Wolf 359 Where the Borg

encouraging? Yeah goes all the way down to the

bottom. Yep. I love about this He says that he

narrowly Beats the record of the set by the 23rd

century Klingon war hero Garth of his are. Yep.

And what's funny is diplomatic advisory. Cisco

is a commonly utilized expletives in Cardassian

youth and should be avoided while in the presence

of Cardassians to avoid confusion. And so they

use his name as a curse word. That's hilarious

Yeah, and then it goes to shacks from lower decks.

Yep, the thesis with data and Dr. Crusher and

to learn and I cannot remember the andorian lady.

Yeah Cisco, yeah bothers me. I don't remember

her Yeah, like and you would think they would

have said her name somewhere in this It's not,

uh, Paris's wife. That's some, that's a different

character. So, uh, Cisco's like attack pattern

Omega and man, this art is so great. The page

where the ship is just kind of like circling,

like you see two different angles of the ship

in the same shot. And then you see a full on

closeup of it, of it attacking the thing. Oh

man. And Scotty is like, ah, Captain, they're

retreating. Yes, take that, space fascists. I

think it's funny that Cisco goes, so we can make

friends and save lives. Mr. Parris, did you do

your homework? The whole Defiant Pattern library

has been uploaded. I threw a little of my own

tricks in there, a little Delta Quadrant spice

for you. Yeah, that's hilarious and then so like

they're using some of his tactics from the Dominion

war and it's just Beautiful touch there. Yeah,

it's so nice It's so great and man this Again,

like I said earlier in this episode All of the

colors no matter what color it is how they blend

so well so you get where it says, Benjamin Sisko

returned at last. Like right before that, you

see them transporting onto the planet. So the

inside of the Theseus is kind of like a green

blue kind of thing. And then on the planet, it's

like all these oranges and browns and some green

stuff with the trees, but the colors just blend.

Like that's what I love about the artists here

doing this because they're doing such a great

job. Emissary, it's a trap! It's a trap. Oops,

wrong universe. And then they're putting Cisco

to trial. Yes. Why are you doing this? Because

not all of us got to walk away from the wreckage

Captain Cisco and 800 million Kardashians cry

out for justice yours is a record of war crimes

against my people It's time you stood trial Yeah,

it won't stick. Oh, of course not. Oh I hope

this because it says to be continued, but I hope

the Coming next month. I hope that's the cover

of issue 8 think I'm gonna have to look because

I think yeah I think by now issue 8 is out so

I'll have to look and see but man him just sitting

there in the jail cell that's such a nice cover

so great final thoughts on on issue 7 here really

really good yeah yeah and issue 8 is out yeah

Good yeah, because we're gonna have to cover

that soon man. I am just loving this This series

between this series and between the war series

with Star Trek Defiant. It's so good. It's it's

This is like I said in in previous episodes that

we've started doing these this is my Star Trek

now, I actually feel like I'm in the universe

with characters I sort of know and then characters

I have no clue like with Tilar and with Jake

because I don't I mean I might have seen the

first or second season of DS9 I'm gonna eventually

go back and watch it all anyway because you know

pretty soon we're gonna have a defiant fascination

with Star Trek but yeah this is great so six

and seven what would you rate issue six zero

to five I'll give it a four. I mean these are

pretty solid and they build on the universe So

they keep me entertained and coming back for

the next one. Yeah, and yes while it's all like

it was all Kind of moving the plot along with

the action Issue seven brought it home. Yeah

Issue seven was my favorite of the two. I am

right there with you I'll give it a give six

a four out of five, but issue seven man That's

at least a four point five or a five because

wow, that was so good That was I won't give it

a perfect five, but I'll give it a four point

five because it was very strong. Yeah yeah, you

have so much character building and Every character

like no character in issue seven didn't get some

sort of spotlight It is just so so good. Absolutely.

Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it Let's see

here. We already did the ad break and whatever

else. I guess really quickly, folks, we can talk

about the fact that even though this is Star

Trek, this is relating to IDW since I will be

probably publishing this fairly soon. But we

do have Skybound. Robert Kirkman and Skybound

did get the Transformers and G .I. Joe comic

license. So that's the new partner. So that is

going to be very, very interesting to see what

happens with all of that. Alright, so from the

Bleeding It Cool website we have a very interesting

article which finally reveals the new home for

Transformers and G .I. Joe comics. After IDW

is losing both Transformers and G .I. Joe licenses

at the end of last year, 2022 is unclear. which

would be the new editorial for each Hasbro's

franchises and they will be making their debut

appearance together for Image Comics, Image Comics

and Skybound Entertainment in Void Revivals number

one out next week. So this is June 9th. that

this story was released and this will begin a

new Skybound comic book license with Hasbro for

Transformers and G .I. Joe. Void Revivals is

a new comic book by Robert Kirkman, Mathuas Lopez,

and Lorenzo de Felicia from Image Comics and

Skybound being published next week. The featured

image on this post is used just as a reference.

Official art hasn't been revealed yet. Wow, very

cool. like the art I think the art looks great

oh yeah yeah so that's that's gonna do it for

for Star Trek folks for now for issue six and

seven I will be we will be getting issue eight

here soon to to have everybody Listen to us talk

about issue eight of the IDW Star Trek series

and then I'm sure Defiant is is somewhere around

the bend and then we have the motion picture

comic and everything else coming up next Joe

Reed is gonna join me and we're gonna do radiant

black volume one from image comics and then after

that Eduardo is gonna come back and we're gonna

talk GI Joe Castle fall and then Heather is gonna

join me to talk about the kill lock volume to

the artisan race from So that's what's coming

up so far in June. In July, podcasts grow there.

We've got more Star Trek stuff. Yep. More Star

Trek stuff. More Radiant Black. No Transformers

in July because if I could make it through it,

hopefully, we will be doing Autobotly August.

this year and finishing off the Marvel US run.

So that's what's going on there. It leads the

trades and then going to G2. G2 is only 12 issues

and it continues. The regeneration one is the

IDW continuation of the G1 Marvel. Right, yeah.

It's going to issue 81 to 100. Right. Which we

may have to get to that. Yeah, I've heard good

things about that, because it's Simon Furman

and all that. I've heard good things. So yeah,

what do you got going on, sir? Well, aside from

working on new model kits and new things like

that, we've got some stuff coming up for Altered

Geek, all things Transformers. And yeah, just

kind of gearing up for the Top 100 Toys. Yes,

Top 100 Toys countdown coming soon from us here

at the Geekcast Radio Network. I still have to

make my list. It's a good thing it's the weekend.

I can just sit here and start making my list.

If anyone is interested, let us know. If you'd

like to join the Top 100 Toys countdown, we've

done... Animated series animated films animated

characters TV shows wrestlers video games was

the top 50 Transformers wrestlers, I think I

said that already and there's something else

but we've done like seven of these so far in

the last 14 years and the toys one will be the

eighth top 100 countdown comics like I said more

radiant black more Star Trek is is coming up

we're going back and doing radiant black by the

volume trades, whereas initially we covered the

first five or six issues when it released back

in 2021. Love that series. So Joe is going to

join me for that. Star Trek, you've got my attention.

Star Trek Defiant, you've got my attention. So

very, very much enjoying where these, you know,

finding out where the where these stories are

going to go and and what. these creators these

these comic book creators are doing with it so

very very cool anything else you'd like to say

before i run through the closing oh i think that's

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