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Batman Beyond Neo Year Issues 1-3

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Oh, and welcome to The Pull Bag. This is episode
512, and we're here to discuss part one of two
of Batman Beyond Neo Year. I'm, of course, TF2
and Mike. We just celebrated 10 years of The
Pull Bag, March 6, 2023. Holy shit, can you believe
it, folks? I don't know. Who else I had on that,
but I do know Steve Megatron, Ryan the Uneven
Flow, my Wrecker Gals, Amy, Nicole, and Heather,
and my good buddy JT from Saskatoon, who is my
Batman Beyond buddy, who is here today as well.
Hello, sir. Good day. Good day. And thank you
to everybody for the 10 -year episode. Thank
you for everybody that came on the show. And
I don't know if I'm doing anything else with
that, because I'm recording this like when I
haven't even edited that yet, so. No clue what's
gonna happen with the 10 -year show as in this
recording, but we are here to talk about Batman
Beyond Neo year and usually when As long as I
have my finger on the pulse of got neo Gotham
Anytime I see any Batman Beyond like JT time.
It's like me tapping you for a Nickelback episode
of geek cast radio It's like hey, let's go. It's
time to time to work Like the Nickelback episodes,
there's not years between episodes I know that's
up to the band. It's not up to us folks. Yeah,
I mean, you know And that's the funny thing like
I've been listening to a lot of music podcasts
a lot of different things over the years since
since kovat and everything else and I will fully
say that my personal belief is that we're still
in the midst of COVID. It may not be as bad as
it was when it first started, but we're not out
of the woods yet, folks. So stay safe out there
and indoors and outdoors and everywhere else
you have doors or nowhere where you don't have
doors. But I found it interesting what the bands
that I love to listen to did. Either they got
to work or they decided they wanted to just take
a break. And at some point, Nickelback was like,
yeah, it's, it's been about five years. Let's,
let's go ahead and get back to work. Cause originally
what canceled when COVID happened, I don't know
if I would have gone to see them. I wish I would
have been able to, but like, I was so excited
for the 15th anniversary, all the right reasons
tour. They were going to play that album cover
to cover on that tour. And then COVID happened
and that tour got canceled. And then they went
back in the studio and then now we have. get
rolling and all that. And of course, no one here
on this comic feed podcast is wanting to hear
us wax poetic about Nickelback. But yes, Batman
Beyond and where we start with this is over in
Urban Legends number seven. Yeah. And sorry,
I'll just jump right in here if I may. For those
that don't know, over the last couple of years,
there has been this Batman Urban Legends title,
which is essentially an anthology title. set
in the current DC continuity, very different.
And it's not necessarily ties into ongoing storylines.
Like they had a two or three or four issue story
is the origin of the current incarnation of Ace
the Bat Hound and how he was tied in the Joker
was running a dog fighting ring. And he was like
this beast of a German shepherd who eventually
Batman is like, I like you, you're a good boy.
Mm -hmm stuff like that. So Preceding the new
year miniseries folks a couple of months before
in the story They have issue number seven the
lead story Batman Beyond wake and it's New Year's
Eve in Gotham City Not this isn't a spoiler this
this story and The miniseries are both written
by Jackson Lansing and Colin Kelly Max Dunbar
did inks and pencils This I was surprised when
I read the miniseries. I didn't know about this
issue I thought it was gonna be a Dan Juergens
run again, but sadly it is not and I Think because
of that this story overall does not take place
in the Continuity of the Dan Juergens Batman
Beyond era. Yeah. No, this is its own era. This
is its own thing This is it's yeah, it's a comic
book World that is ostensibly the continuation
of the The animated series because we still have
Mary McGinnis we see in this in this story and
Matt and Max and It's they do mention brother
I Who was like the main antagonist of DC's futures
end which was the Tim Drake which led to the
Tim Drake Batman Beyond title before Terry was
rescued and yeah deprogrammed So anyway, it's
New Year's Eve, Terry's in the back gate, Batman
is dead, like Bruce Wayne has died, something's
overloaded his pacemaker, and he finds out that
this off -brand Skynet has come to life because
of all the technology and the interconnected
systems, and it's how a lot of scientists have
theorized that AI may or may not happen in our
own world, that all this internet, it's like,
what is it, Terminator 3? When they activated
they're having problems with the virus and it
turned out that well the internet was basically
coming to life and Skynet was like the last piece
of the puzzle. So the living Gotham tries to
kill Terry puts out a APB through the police
on Batman. It steals all the money in Gotham
City and promises it to every criminal. If you
guys bring me the head of Batman and even cops
are getting in on that. And by the end of this
story Terry almost kills it by using the blackout
protocol, but he decides Bruce doesn't kill.
I'm not going to kill. So he stops the protocol
from killing the AI, but he forces it out of
the Batcave and Wayne Manor is blown up. And
Terry is left now to his own devices. He has
no backup. He sent his family and Max and Dana
out of the city. And we're off to the races.
Yeah. I wish I knew about that before I read
Neoyear. Yeah. Now this, I've heard of Colin
Kelly before. I've heard his name. This is the
first time I'm reading anything by him. Same
thing with Jackson Lansing. They are now doing
currently IDW's just Star Trek with Cisco. as
like they're doing the whole, so Steve Megatron
and I, yeah. So Steve Megatron and I are covering
that as well here inside the pull bag. And I
was like, wait a minute, Jackson Lansing and,
wait a minute, JT and I are about to do Neo Year.
I'm like, yeah, cool. So, but when I, go ahead.
No, you finish please. So when I first started
reading Neo Year, I was like, wait a minute.
I feel like I literally felt like I'm like, Number
ones should be able to bring you in immediately.
And yes, there are a few lines in here that say,
hey, it's a few months after Bruce Wayne was
murdered by this AI and whatever else. And it
did bring me in. But the first issue, I also
felt kind of lost because I was like, there's
something missing here. And now you tell me there
was an issue of Urban Legends where they kind
of set the whole thing up. Yeah. You know, and
one of the things I liked about this story, like
they have this scene where there's this dude
who's literally shitting bricks. He's the interim
CEO of Wayne Powers. And that's when he tells
Batman that all the bank accounts in the city
have been drained and Batman's like the hell.
And then the living Gotham, who I'm going to
continue to refer to as off brand Skynet, because
I just like the sound of that better. I like
the sound of living Gotham, but basically, you
know, cheap -ass Skynet is fine. Yeah. It's off
-brand Skynet blows up like the top six floors
of Wayne Powers Tower. You know, Batman's chased
by all these criminals. He goes after a Thai
Moroni who's this... She's the current matriarch
of the Moroni crime family and her enforcer and
they kind of look like Kind of like the characters
you see in the cyberpunk 2077 game like except
with slightly more metal on their bodies and
He's like blaming her for he's like I have nothing
to do with this I was like, I hope they bring
her back in a further Batman Beyond series, which
is supposed to be coming out this year I just
love the idea that you're bringing a classic
criminal element like that back into Batman.
Yeah, so by the end of it, you get these flashbacks
where Terry's in the Batcave trying to figure
out who killed Bruce Wayne. It's interspersed
with these flashbacks to Bruce giving him his
last, like, you're better than me. You're a better
Batman than me. The only thing that pisses me
off about this story. I did not want Batman to
go out like this. You know, and it's like that
episode is like, what do you think I call me
in my head? And Terry's like, yeah, but that's
my name now. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah. Tell
yourself that kid. But, you know, it's it's not
like I needed him to go out, but it's like I
think I would have preferred Bruce to like go
out standing in his feet and you're taking a
blast point blank from blight. Yeah, kind of
thing. It's. It's not cheap, but it doesn't It
doesn't feel like this was the death that Bruce
earned Right. I don't think any of the deaths
that we've had in the like the death of Bruce
Wayne in the Batman Beyond Universe in the comics
I don't really think any of them are worthy of
the man. I just think that you know, they're
just kind of like a means to an end. I think
what more is meaningful isn't how Bruce dies,
it's what Bruce ends up saying to Terry as he's,
like, that's the impactful part. And the fact
that, and you and I haven't had a chance to really,
you and I haven't, I've done this with other
people, but mourning the fact that even though
we still hear his voice in our heads, Kevin's
not here anymore. I know. Definitely got a little
verklempt teared up a little bit when I listened
to that episode of I hear voices. Oh, yeah Carlson
Romano and Will Friedle Like one of their very
first episodes they brought Kevin on and just
to hear this joy in this life in this man Yeah,
and then just so soon after lose him. It's like
that's like damn. That's another one off the
list of guys I want to have a beer with you know,
cuz I have that list and it's like Yeah. And
I tell this story every time, you know, Steve
and I got to talk to the man in 2012. It's been
11 years since we got to talk to him. Steve and
I have gotten to talk to Lauren Lester twice.
And for the last couple of years, like right
before the pandemic started, what I wanted to
do was I wanted to, I tried reaching out to both
Kevin Conroy and Lauren Lester because especially
in In 2022, being the 30th anniversary of BTIS,
I wanted to get them both on for a new interview
talking about 30 years of the animated series
and I didn't even, no one knew. Kevin loved the
anonymity. If you listen to any of his, you listen
to our old interview. Or you listen to any interview
he's ever done He always says that voice acting
for him was all about the anonymity of it all
at the time because at the time 30 years 30 plus
years ago When he was doing Batman the animated
series there was no internet there was no I mean
it was just kind of starting a few years later
but like you know and all that but Yeah, I am
all about the content. I'm all about the entertainment.
I'm all about what these people are giving us
on whichever medium it is. It's not that I don't
care about their personal lives. What I don't
care about their personal lives is I don't care
to invade. I am not a current affair. I am not
hard copy. I am not Inside Edition. I am not
Access Hollywood. I am not trying to get every
juicy damn detail. And the point of me saying
this is I didn't know. I don't know how many
people actually knew outside of his closest inner
circle that Kevin had cancer. Yeah. And it just
sucks. Yeah. And I gotta say, one of my favorite
stories I've ever heard about him, told from
him was the, and I'm sure a lot of fans have
heard this over the years, was he's telling the
story of when he went down to grout serve uh
relief workers at ground zero and he does you
know i am vengeance i am the night i am batman
and just prior to that you hear some like a whole
new york firefighter prove it yeah yeah you know
and he does that holy shit he is batman and that
always makes me smile but we we should probably
get back to the topic no we should but still
it's like again talking about bruce wayne and
his deaths well Bruce Wayne the character will
forever be linked to Kevin Conroy, Adam West,
everybody, but I mean, for most of us, I mean,
most of us animation fans, it's Kevin Conroy.
And yeah, I've heard him tell that story many
times, but my favorite way of him telling it
is when he told it to us, because he said at
the beginning, right before he said he told the
story, he goes... Should I clean it up a little
bit? It has a lot of foul language. I'm like,
nah, we're explicit around here. We don't worry
about children here at the gate cast radio networks.
He goes into the story. Like you said, you know,
yeah, you guys will never guess who's been serving
your dinners. It's Batman. Well, like you said,
the guy in the back, you know, stands up bullshit,
make him prove it. And then he says line. Holy
shit. It's yeah, he proud New Yorker, proud person,
proud everything. Ryan and I just covered In
episode 507 I think it was 506 507 something
like that. No, it's 506 We covered the finding
Batman the story he wrote for DC pride 2022.
Oh my god That's about as emotional just as emotional
as Paul Dini's a dark knight story that Paul
Dini wrote. So yes Bruce Wayne and his deaths
with Neo year and and the the living Gotham and
the living Skynet and all that. And holy crap,
so good. Yeah. Now, as because we're both reading
from the digital issues here, I love the cover
on issue number one. Like this is straight up
a poster piece. Oh, absolutely. It is. You took
Neo year off that title card and just made that
a poster. I was like, that's on my wall. You
know, yeah Terry perched on a ledge, you know
all the bats behind him. You got this image in
the background like Possibly a reference to Brother
Eye which they do reference in that urban legend
story, but like I said, this is very much probably
a spin -off from a universe where the animated
series happened and not none of the futures and
stuff, but We get into it, and I love Dunbar's
art. It's got this very... It's very sleek. Yeah,
it's very sleek. Yeah, and it's got this... I
hesitate to use the term anime, but it's got
this kind of anime animated sort of feel just,
you know, and it perfectly captures the Blade
Runner -esque architecture of Neo Gotham. You
know batman's that we don't know what's happening
right away Yeah, but uh, you know, he's fighting
splicers. He's being chased by the cops Yeah
and he has to uh You know, he's got like one
of those requisite, uh, he says activate dead
zone He's got one of those little uh, geegas
that every superhero or super spy has that like
prevents somebody from recording him And you
prove like how? bad it is for Terry that he is
writing, I mean, physically pen to paper writing
a journal because off -brand Skynet is constantly
looking for him. Yeah. So really quickly, because
I know we're going to go through about it later
with the art, but the art in the beginning, like
you said, maxed on bar with Sebastian Chang on
colors. And I'm probably going to. mispronounced
the name, but Aditya Bidikar is the letterer.
I love the letters, I love the colors, I love
the lines. Everything about this art is amazing
to me. And with Lansing and Kelly, what I love
about this, and we'll get into this further in
this episode, in the next week's episode we talk
about issues four through six. I love the story
titles. Gotham, Sword, Shadow, and Whisper for
the first three issues. I love that because it
just makes you want to get into the story. No,
that's great. And I do love the... I think one
of my favorite things in terms of the art is
that scene where Terry is walking under the huge
VR... Wayne Powers, yep. augmented reality like
Wayne Powers, new leadership, new direction,
new legacy, and talking about how they rebuilt
the top of the building, they took the construction
rails down. I don't know if it probably has,
do you have the see Batman urban legends thing
in that panel? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Because
sometimes they don't do that in digital. I know
that's probably in the print issue And he's talking
about this guy donovan lumos. I was like, oh
this guy's gonna be a complete dick Yeah, just
when that last name the holographic man. Yeah
Like so yeah, see batman urban legends number
seven where terry's last year ended shway dave
So yeah, that's terry picks him up a nice suit.
Yeah, and you you see that he's gone back to
his ne 'er -do -well ways, or he's picking pockets,
he's scamming his way into this thing. And I
was right, Donovan Lumos looks like the biggest
douche in the history of douches. Like, dude,
I understand you want to shine bright like a
diamond, but it's a little much. So, isn't Lumos
a pre -existing, like this isn't, like, this
isn't, like... This is an OG character as far
as I can tell. Yeah, this is what I'm saying.
This isn't like Kyle Higgins creating Rewire.
I'm like, wait a minute, Lumos. I've seen that
before. I know that name. It's whatever. But
yeah, I mean, he's very flamboyant. Yeah. And
I was just looking on the wiki here. Apparently,
he may or may not have been influenced by Papa
Elon Musk. Of course. And I can see that in how
he's talking and work in the crowd. Yeah. He's
like, now let's party. Because he morphs through
all these different things. And then he sees
Terry and it's very much a dick measuring contest
that Lumos is certain that he's winning. Yeah.
Because he basically tells Terry to kick rocks
and eat dirt. Yeah. And he goes to see Commissioner
Gordon, who is still Barbara, who's got like
this detective, Detective Beam, who I love when
you find out what her full first name is later.
Yes, I dig that. She wants to transfer out of
thing. And Barbara's like, no, you're a good
cop. I need you where you are. And, you know,
they're getting an argument. So she tells her
to get out. And she and Terry, Talk and she's
retiring and Terry's like the look on Terry's
face like Bitch said what? So this scene like
you said with detective beam where she's talking
to her and it's it's Barbara and hello Okay,
so let me ask you this before I continue with
this line here is when you think of old Barbara
Gordon Do you hear the Stockard Channing voice
from the series, or do you hear Angie Harmon
from Return of the Joker? Oh, it's Angie Harmon
every time. Hands down every day. I love Stockard.
I love her voice work in the series, but there
is a steel, there is a firmness to Angie's voice
overall in everything she's done, but specifically
with her cameo in Barbara. or as or not cameo,
but her role is Barbara in Return of the Joker.
Yeah. Then I'm just like, that's you point. That's
Commissioner Gordon. Yeah, exactly. So this scene
here that you're talking about, if you think
one person can do anything about the way the
GCPD really works, maybe you really aren't detective
material after all. Now, get off my roof. Yeah.
That's like a crunk. Check your will, cross your
I's, dot your T's, kind of like, oh. It is. Yeah,
but I hear Angie and her lovely raspiness. I
hear her in my head with those lines. And I love
it. After this, she goes, thanks for waiting
until she was gone. That would have been awkward.
But again, like I said, Terry has this bitch
says what look on his face. perfect and it carries
over into the next panel like he's legitimately
his brain is misfiring the hamster has stopped
running on the wheel he's like yeah you know
and she's good like she I was gonna say Tara
Barbara knows that there's something going on
but the city is safer like crime rates are down
she's just like she's tired And I could hear,
I could imagine Angie Harmon doing that scene
too and she leaves and Terry goes and stops his
drug shipment and we walk into the most anime
character that is ever animated in Gotham City.
The Knight. Yes. Or the Sword of Gotham. Sword
of Gotham, yeah. And he's got one of these dumb,
don't get me wrong folks, I love dumb. Designed
weapons like I love like cloud strife sword from
final fantasy. I wish I could use that in real
life But he's got this thing that it almost looks
like a hook sword missing the hook part at the
top It's made out of light. This guy's all silver
and gray and you know, he gets into it with Batman
and he's I love how he says people would have
been It's like almost 3 ,500 people would have
died Because of the drugs that he's Like what
Terry did so now he's gonna kill an equal number
of people that Terry saved Yeah, which immediately
thought made me think of the void in the century
in Marvel Comics because that for Every life
that the century saves the void takes a life.
Thanks. Yeah And yeah, so this this tilling like
goes up big. Yeah. And Terry crashes into the
Gotham Harbor and he's being swallowed up by
rubble. Yeah, that's the end of the first issue.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on here, because we got
to go back to the the Barbara and Terry scene
because we're where he's, you know, the the sarcastic
part where she seemed nice. I love the way the
art is done to show that he was in the cloaked
mode, like the redness around his hand and around
his feet. I love that design, that is so cool.
Which is usually just the, he fades in, like
the anime. And that's the way they usually draw
it in the comics. That little design touch is
so good. And that's what I got to say about the
art here overall. That max does he also does
his own inks? Yeah, there's like this shine like
he uses lights so very well like not just Because
you know you're standing on top of a building
in neo Gotham like you are gonna be pelted by
Neon light and you can tell that from like how
the lights coming from the back of both their
bodies Yeah, you know how it's reflecting off
the smog in the air Stuff like that, but yeah
Batman fights the sword of Gotham. And again,
when you see this guy's fog, if you do not think
anime as fog, yeah, you haven't watched enough
anime. Yeah, even I haven't watched enough anime.
And I get like this very first panel here where
he's just like running like the OK. So we have
the panel where where it's Terry's face and.
And, you know, never fight angry, but above all
else. So once we get from the end of that page
to the very next full page where you see Gotham
Sword, I'm like, holy crap, that's a combination
of like Kaiba and Riku and like every anime thing
that I do know that I have seen or taken care
of. Like, you know, like, yeah, that's very much
like it. Looks like he stepped off of an image
comic cover from 1993 pretty much. Yeah Yeah,
so the sword gives Terry the business and like
I said He saves all these lives. So the sword
because they're criminals and they would have
died anyhow he's now gonna take an equal number
of lives and he blows up this hospital and You
know Terry goes into the drink now the overall
One to five. What do you think this first issue?
I really dig it. It has everything to do with
Terry and Batman Beyond and just having something
here that is like, we're getting this intriguing
story of this, like you said, cheap ass, you
know, Costco AI, you know, Skynet. We have We
have the emotions of what Batman Beyond is at
its core is it's a family story with Barbara
and Even though Bruce is gone. She's retiring
that like it had literally this first part has
everything it has intrigue it has suspense it
has Not necessarily mysticism, but it has the
points of just everything you want to have in
your Batman. Like, I'm digging it. I love the
writing. I love the way the characters are written.
Max, his lines and his colors, like... This is
the future Gotham that I imagine on the page
almost all the time because Well, yes, it is
kind of rooted in the animated series It also
sticks out as its own thing like yeah If we go
back and we remember when we were talking about
Kyle Higgins is run on Batman Beyond His was
very like when we have rewire we mentioned I
mentioned him earlier Rewire and his clones that
are made up to look like the bat family from
the DCA you that's very very, very DCAU stylings.
This is a mix of what we know and what we think
we want. Like this is what I want out of, like
this, again, to quote, you know, Rekgar from
Transformers the movie, new junkie on a planet
is a sleek, sexy import with turbo handling.
That's what this book is. Yeah, remember that
phrase sleek sexy import folks because it's gonna
come into play by the end of this series It's
going to come into play a lot But specifically
in reference to a certain individual anyway,
I I give it like I said I give it a full five
that like I said the art the writing that this
is a comic book continuation of the original
series, but in a slightly more hard -edged version
that This might now be the future of DC, who
knows? But like I said, this is very clear, I
think, from the Urban Legends story and this,
because they don't mention the Bat Suite at all
in Urban Legends. They take pains to kind of
design Wayne Manor to look like that shot from
the animated series, specifically the New Adventures
and Batman Beyond. Yeah, that very angular looking
sort of piece. So it's it's its own thing. It
could be a continuation of the animated series.
It's not a continuation of the Dan Juergens things
from what from my reading. Yeah, no, it's not.
The Dan Juergens stuff was its own thing. And
that's like that had. an end point now if they
had wanted to do more you know more of Dan's
story they would have brought Dan no and again
I'm perfectly like we like okay from the coverage
that we've done here in the pullback in the last
10 years between the stuff that Steve Megatron
and I have covered and the stuff you and I have
covered there have been at least do my math right
five or six different writers that we've covered
writing this. What's his name? Beecham. Adam
Beecham did 10 ,000 Clowns and Batgirl Beyond
back in 1999. Obviously, Kyle Higgins is Ron.
Dan Juergens. And then now we have Jackson and
Colin here. And they all approach it differently,
but they all approach it like... it should be,
if you've seen the animated series at all, this
is going to be familiar yet new. And that's the
key there, familiar but new. Because there's
this whole issue, a whole problem with this living
Gotham, this Lumos, this whatever. And it's good.
It's really freaking good. It's a thing that
people know. The cart anyone that's seen the
cartoon series knows the cartoon series and then
when they do comics about the character They
sort of sometimes stick to things but then they
add something to the Batman Beyond mythos and
that's why I love Again, that's why I get excited
every time I catch one and it sometimes you catch
it before I do but most of the time I'm catching
it. I'm like like I said earlier in the episode
like Okay, JT time to get to work let's go you
know so yeah I'm absolutely loving this first
issue in once I really realized what was going
on without him right again I will end up going
back and code and and reading the the previous
story away awake uh in in urban legends is something
like you mentioned earlier where it's like you
said it's an anthology series I want to cover
that on its own kind of because that one is it
four, five, or six. One of those issues has a
story written by Kamaris Johnson, who was Batwing
in live -action television. Whoever thought we
were gonna get Luke Fox in live -action television,
say what you want about the Batwoman series,
but holy crap, we got Luke Fox in live -action
television, and the fact that the actor of that
character on that show got to write a Batwing
story in the comics is amazing. So yeah, Urban
Legends will be covered at some point, folks.
But yes, so this, yeah. Issue one. There wasn't
anything I didn't like, so straight five out
of five for me. So I mean we get into issue two
and I love the cover of Terry in this weird orifice
mouth with the nasty teeth and the the spinny
background he's surrounded by jokers who honestly
were the best thing they could have done with
Like I at first went bad when the animated series
came out years ago I kind of balked against like
why is there not a clay face? We got that with
ink like you didn't have any of the og villains
except for that one. Mr Freeza I loved how they
did the Joker like the Joker is like why wouldn't
socially maladjusted youths who? Have way too
much pent -up aggression. Why wouldn't they?
Go towards this, you know the monarch of mayhem
the clown prince of crime and Emulate his style.
So I love that. I love this cover. Yep, you know
as we get into the story Terry's pulled himself
out of the drink and We get this. I love the
broken like kind of digital effect borders they
have for the text as Terry's being taught like
the living Gotham or operand Skynet is talking
shit to Terry he's like You know, I could have
given them beautiful dreams, but you forced my
hand. I love that line. You forced my hand to
the hilt of my sword. And I was like, that is
a baller villain line. Yeah. And, you know, I
am not a villain to be pummeled. I am the system
of the world. I am the living Gotham. And I knew
exactly what Terry was going to say when he says,
end this folly, let them die. And he's like,
never. And he GTFOs trying to like, get his stuff,
get his bearings. Yeah. And unfortunately, he's
got to hack the bat suit. Yeah, because the bat
suits constantly sending out all these thousand
and one different signals that help it get around
easier and disappear and Gotham and all that.
So Terry's got to disable everything. He does
like you see an action movie sometimes he gets
like an infrared light. collar or something,
or his mask, it basically distorts cameras so
they can't see his face. It just looks like this
bright mass of pixels. Yep. You know, he gets
a Faraday cage, which is a... I don't know how
to explain that. Faraday cage is essentially
like no signals can get in or out, folks. If
you've ever seen 1998's Enemy of the State, Gene
Wilder, wow. Gene Hackman's character in that
has a Faraday cage So yeah like that or the the
cage that Jay Berischel made in the sorcerer's
apprentice, which I love that movie I don't care
what anyone says, but yeah, I love that a Faraday
cage style So it looks like this awesome future
cloak Sort of thing. He's got these strips on
his masks And he goes about getting information
trying to figure out You know Who knows what
who's got the information on criminals in the
city? They mentioned miss Kyle like Selena and
Miracle Molly, which is a Very recent addition
to the Batman canon. She was introduced about
a year or so before the fair state storyline
She's a really cool character and I would love
to talk about her more but it would take way
too long to explain her character and he you
see him like hacking and You know skulking his
way through the shadows and kind of batmanning
as batman does yeah and i love anytime they they
have a reference to splicers like he's got the
The one the one -eyed cat in form and which kind
of looks like old hob from the ninja turtles
comics. Yeah I always love the splicers. I thought
that was a really cool concept and he runs into
uh He's running into this building. I forget
if it's a bank or not or it's like just it's
Gotham It's Gotham Central Insurance has a record.
There you go. So he breaks in and he comes across
these three beings called gestalt Which their
colors and some of their design aesthetics again
reference Miracle Molly Who's the quickest way
I could explain her is she's a woman who decided
to? Stop living her life as everyone was telling
her how to live her life and made a choice to
like change her change her perspective and it's
a little more involved in that but she basically
is this like techno whiz who's trying to build
a better Gotham but completely divorced from
anything Batman might do yeah so uh Gestalt you
know stealing diamonds Terry chases after them
right into joker town my god I love that front
door yeah that door is like did you ever play
Arkham City no but I've seen people play it yeah
this reminds me of how the Joker did up the old
cyana steel mill Yeah, and I mean they got all
their they're like the big wheel and the call
the clown car and everyone's got flamethrowers
and rocket launchers and Yo -yo so my and you
know, I love what Terry says here is he heads
into Joker's town He goes there are three rules
to fighting jokers. I'll never forget them Bruce
long as I breathe one They'll prey on your mercy
Mercy is just a joke to them. Don't let them
laugh two you'll always be outnumbered so make
every shot count and then we see him you know
punching and kicking and elbowing jokers in the
face and and then three they're untrained no
matter what schwarbage they spout or weapons
they wield Stop there the Joe or bitch happen.
It's not gonna happen. It's schwarbeg is schwarbeg
schwarbeg in schwarbeg out schwarbeg is schwarbeg
The man himself said it So it's a thing. It's
swing. It's schwarbeg And it's in here. They
wrote it. It's not I like I was not me trying
to make it be a thing Yeah, I'm just you just
having some fun. Yep. Yeah. So yeah, so I I love
that, you know beat them to the punchline and
all that, beat them up and yeah, such a fun action
-packed issue with this. And where he says, I
need allies to fight this. And I was like, hmm,
I wonder where that's gonna lead. As we talked
about Angie Herman being the voice of Barbara
Gordon, I mean, no one else has ever done Terry.
Yeah, so I mean it's always will Friedle but
like yes that scene where he's burning through
like the last 2 % of his rocket fuel and he's
I'm the Batman like I went back to rebirth episode
2 Where he killed? Well, he doesn't kill mr.
Fix, but I am Batman. I was like, that's my boy.
Yep absolutely and I love the kind of The anime
again going back to that the whole cyber tendril
dreadlocks that the the three members of gestalt
have and they're just kind of vaguely alien Goo
demon kind of look like that and he makes this
very impassioned speech is like, you know, can
you help me and just Like, the body horror of
seeing those tendrils go into Terry's face. Like,
Jesus. Yeah, that's a little much. Like, and
he takes his mask off, folks, and he's appealing
to their gene with your genius, your tech, whatever
you are. Maybe we could stop together, like,
no, no, no, see, no, despair. And then the tendrils
just, I mean, oh, ha, ha, ha. And that full page
of the three different poses. It looks like it's
three different Batman, but it's him in three
different aspects of what they're doing to him
and all of this. I thought that was the Gestalt
without all the cyber schmutz on their heads.
Oh, I'm sorry. You're right. I OK. Yeah. Also,
it made me think of the three psychics in Minority
Report. Yep. You know, floating in the And it's
like they've been hive -minded together and all
this. And you see the tendrils being pulled out.
It's like, how do you still have eyes? Yeah.
Yeah, really. You should be dying on a roof right
now. Or did they grow new eyes on the way out
or something? Jesus, that was horrifying. Yeah,
very, very horrifying. And like you said, he
needs allies and he's trying to plead with them
as the people they used to be. And we get to
a point where, but not on us or our prizes. And
he goes, right, you mean the prize I'm still
holding? Anyone knows me, folks? My two favorite
colors are black and purple and because of Bruce
Tim and Paul Dini and Eric Radomski and Alan
Burnett and everybody that The city of Gotham
in the future in the Batman Beyond future is
always purple. So having his black suit With
the red and whatever and all these purple skies
Yeah, forget about the purple mountains folks.
It's all about the purple skies and I love how
in this moment like I've got he tells him like
my name's Tara look it up on your infinite Google
search engine or whatever you know it cost me
everything and how nonchalantly he dumps this
handful of diamonds and in with his words Terry
McGinnis has won Gestalt kind of tentatively
has won them over to his side and he drops them
off and I couldn't help but think uh of like
Where Arnold is feeding diamonds into his suit
into a suit? Yeah in Batman and Robin just because
I would whenever I see Batman with little like
M &M sized diamonds like that. That's where my
brain goes Yeah, and they drop them off the side
into like the almost seemingly infinite depths
of Got neo Gotham you see this foot that then
morphs Out of like street clothes into the the
sword of Gotham. He picks it up and he crushes
a diamond Yourselves and look up how much pressure
you would need to do that folks and realize this
guy's not playing around No, he's not playing
around he not at all and I and I love the and
this is what I this is what I The one thing I
do miss and I have it here in single issue because
it's all I ever got But like I also love reading
trades I what I miss about the trades is or I
miss with reading trades is sometimes these These
teasers of next and at the end of this with him
crushing the diamond next the last party in Gotham
The second issue man like Wow Yeah, and I love
one thing I want to say about the because you
see that kind of headshot of the sword of Gotham
in this last panel. I don't know why I've always
been a fan of those head sock comic cows like
this. Like think of like X -Men in or Gambit
in X -Men folks. So he's got that weird head
suck thing, all his hair out the top, ears out,
face out. Just that weird thing you know i have
it from x factor cyclops brother has the same
deal i don't know why i love that thing i think
it works very well for comics because you want
to have a little ostentatiousness. With your
character designs be they good or bad like i
said i really dig the whole anime aesthetic of
the sword but just that last scene of him holding
the diamond crushing it. This is another one
i would. I'm giving it a four. Not that I think
it's bad, but I think because of the go, go,
go -ness of this issue, the action of this issue,
some of the dialogue is sacrificed a little bit.
So we get all these amazing double -page spreads
and all that. I think that this issue, and I'm
right there with you, right at a four out of
five, this issue, along with a lot of issues,
especially comics that are six -issue miniseries,
it's a constant balancing act, but okay, you've
introduced us to the characters in the first
issue. You've told us what the general gist of
the story is. Now we get a volume. issue two
and three like action pack let's go let's go
let's do some fighting let's do this let's do
that and yeah i still dig it but you're right
it is most definitely a four out of five and
again those pages at the end of this with all
the pro i know they're just buildings i know
it's just skies but i just i love that design
because it's never looked more sleeker than it
looks in this comic book. So we get to issue
three and issue three, every once in a while,
usually like one time per series, DC and Batman
Beyond and all of that will do a cover like,
No other or they will do like a referential cover
like I remember at the end of some of the Tim
Drake run where they had like all the faces of
Bruce and Barbara and whatever else and and number
three has that with with its main cover and It's
Barbara. It's Batman. It's Dana It's Lumos and
it's all the characters, you know, that we've
seen or that we will see kind of thing. And then
there's obviously the city. I just love or maybe
it's not Dana. Maybe it's Detective Beam. Yeah,
Beam Booma. Yeah, so I absolutely love this cover
for issue three. No, it's. It's a classic comedy.
You got Lumos in this very Christ -like pose,
you know, welcoming the light. You got the elite
of Gotham in masks. And, you know, it's a very
classic movie poster kind of design with, you
know, Batman charging at us and Commissioner
Gordon and Detective Beam doing over the shoulder
look, you know, last party in Gotham. Yeah. And
then I actually picked up because they're all
sold out at my store. But I got a physical copy
of issue three. It's the only one I have right
now because everything else has been sold out.
They have this wonderful I'll have to find a
link for you show you later where it's this digitized
cover of like they're in VR or something and
Lumos is threatening to swallow Batman. I see
it here. Batman Beyond New Year number three
done by who's it done by? It says ages 13 plus
at the bottom right. Yeah, I see it here. Okay.
This is this is freaking cool Now as we get into
this issue and we get you know Commissioner Gordon,
you know got her requisite file box full of stuff.
She goes home. She's got a cat Yeah, she's got
a congratulatory letter from you know, I Who
is that from? Don't know she'll make it hurt
Could be from detective beam could be from some
weird solicitor. Yeah, she's invited to this
It could be from Terry, you know, but does she
reads this letter she's invited to her own retirement
party that's being thrown by Lumos who and I
don't I say this with I don't mean any disrespect.
It's the most fabulous outfit that he's worn
so far. Even Liberace would have looked at this
man and go, oh dear Christ. This gold and flames
trailing off it with the holograms. It's just
the most schmoozing per page I have seen in a
comic book in a few years. As if he's wearing
a Johnny Storm human torch costume. Almost. It's
got the gold, but it's also got the fiery orange
to it too around him. And with that dumbass mohawk,
it makes me think of the world's least likable
version of Johnny Storm from World's Greatest
Heroes. Yep. Like how they didn't have an episode
where Sue goes to wake up Johnny and he's been
throttled in his sleep by these massive stone
like hands. Yeah, I'm just saying. But yeah,
you're right. Lumos is like, like leering over.
It's like, you know, he bought her that like
he got her this outfit, you know, is, you know,
I thought it'd be a fun flashback to your bif
pow completely. And she's basically telling him
that you wanted this party Congrats, you got
it. I'm here for an hour and I'm gone. Yep. And
then Terry comes in with his IR mask and a stolen
invite calling himself Neil Gibson, which I believe
is a reference to a cyberpunk author. I'm not
sure. But he goes through and he sees Detective
Beam comes in and she's looking fine. I don't
mean fine. Like she looks okay. I mean like damn
girl mm -hmm like I love the art and Terry does
one of my favorite things that I see you see
it in heist movies and Crime movies where the
one guy's going around schmoozing With other
people, but he's picking up information by listening
into other conversations yeah, and and how he's
He's listening in and all these private conversations
with Gotham Elaine and all of them are just like
like they don't know about You know off -brand
Skynet, but they know that they've they have
been What's the word I'm looking for benefiting
tremendously yeah, and stuff like that and You
know, you got these like stuff has gone missing,
but hey, I'm sorry But you know like the one
guy is like my entire supply chain will go under
he's looking for a loan from this one, dude You
know Terry's I love that I'm drinking a month's
salary and a glass of champagne and all anyone
can talk about is the invisible rope choking
the city How do you save someone who loves the
noose? I was like damn that's deep Yeah, it is
it's very very deep we get but then we get Barbara
give like a very impassioned speech and she's
like trying to tell everyone You know, what's
what but then it's completely forgotten about
because Lumos comes in. Yeah, I bought the cops
Yeah, no, we both we both love that series a
PB yes, you know wasn't the best series but it
had a really cool idea and The guy that played
the main dude the Tony Stark dude who I found
out also voiced Green Lantern in Justice League
War The first new 52 animated series of film.
Yeah Justin what's his name? Yeah, anyway, but
anyway off -brand Tony Stark here is Wayne Powers
will personally be funding the neo Gotham and
literally Barbara beam and Terry both do what
is essentially a spit -take and everyone's just
like, oh, that's so cool. And they don't realize
that this guy like they essentially they're living
in a police state now. And this is one of the
things I've always loved about Batman Beyond
and the world that exists in is something that
people have been warning about for years and
the increased political and financial power of
corporations. Like you look at every cyberpunk
story ever, nine times out of 10, 99 % of the
time, the bad guys are these mega cores that
have taken over the future. Like sure, there's
a president and there's senators and politics,
but they just go to their paymaster, please sir,
I need some more. And you see these two women
arguing about, you know, The the mayor isn't
there for whatever reason he's been missing for
like a day and a half almost mm -hmm and I Love
how Lumos says Barbara Babs you don't trust me
I get it and no Gotham isn't in my veins we both
know I'm a blood -haven boy and Just how he's
talking down to her like that will also keep
in that smile on his face like this, dude You
swap him out for superior Iron Man Tony Stark
and absolutely no effect is lost with those words.
Oh, yeah. No, absolutely not. Like, yeah, very
much so. And then like how he's like the law
will catch up to, oh, you're a lot. No, 100 percent.
The Batman's too once upon a time. But you retire
and he's, you know, having a flap. You know,
just the way they have his hand like he's doing
the little flap motion. And I love how he's just
straight up with her. I don't care about this
city, but I do want it to work. Which is like
one, I'm gonna give him one point in a slight
redemption factor that he doesn't want Gotham
to burn. He doesn't care about anybody, but he
does want it to keep rolling along. And then
the most. Superior iron man. I am the most selfish
man you'll ever meet. It's a point of genuine
pride and I was like Dear god, this guy has no
soul. Oh, he has no soul at all Alright, so as
you've been talking about this, I have not been
ignoring you. I've been doing some Batman Beyond
research The only thing I can think of because
of the way it's spelled N E A L okay, so Neil
and then we get Gibson, okay? The only thing
I can, I just, I wanna make sure to look at this,
Neil, yeah, any area. So, Neil Gibson, I'm on
the list. There's two references I can pull,
and I, you can, you always, we always call each
other on our shit sometimes, so if I'm wrong,
I'm wrong, it's fine. Neil is for Neil Adams.
And Jackson Lansing and Colin Kelly, you guys
can call me on this too. So the only Neil I can
think of with that spelling of Neil is Neil Adams.
Gibson. That's a fair bet. Okay. Gibson is Max's
last name, Maxine Gibson. You know what? That...
And I was just looking up something here because
I literally put cyberpunk Gibson into Google.
Gibson the father of cyberpunk fiction. There
you go wrote Neuromancer. Yeah So I think that's
it it's it's a nod to Neil Adams and William
Gibson because you from like the first episode
of Batman Beyond like it's Batman's gone cyberpunk
to a very like if anyone says cyberpunk culture
or element design elements in that Aren't in
and I've actually met these people. I'm not just
saying that yeah so So yeah, it basically has
three meanings like you said the cyberpunk guy
But it could also mean because I don't think
max isn't in this story. Is she? She was in Urban
Legends, but she and Mary and Matt and Dana have
all GTFO'd from Gotham because Terry told them
to. Right, okay. But again, so in universe, in
comic universe, outside of the person who created
Cyberpunk, it could be Neil Adams and Max from
Maxine Gibson. I'm fairly certain it's Neil for
Neil Adams and Gibson for William Gibson. And
it's just a coincidence because max has that
same last name. Yeah, but yeah, so You know lumos
and barbara, you know commissioner gordon have
had this thing terry starts I wouldn't say hitting
on uh beam detective beam, but yeah He's definitely,
you know He's in he's initiated a conversation
He's not being a creep Yeah, and He's like you
want to get out of here? And she's like, no,
but I know where they make a hell of a burger.
Better keep up slick. Yeah. And I love that how
you get this look of this like open air, like
kind of food court, food market. And they're
sitting there and they're this is one of my favorite
moments. Like we've read the whole series, folks.
This is honestly like top three favorite character
moments in this comic series. Yeah. Like just
this interaction, this honest. For the most part
because Terry still has his IR mask strapped
on his face Which again it just looks like every
other thing you've seen in Batman Beyond or anime
where it's just looks like two big paint stripes
The tattoos that the hunter has yeah, it does
a little bit but there's a panel in here There
are several panels in here where I look at it
straight on like there's a panel. I forget which
page it is. It's like page eight where he's drinking
the drink where he says, I'm drinking a month's
salary and a glass of champagne, and all anyone
can talk about is the invisible rope choking
the city. If you look closely enough, at least
in my eyes, if the mask was a little bit more
like lined up together, that could be Nightwing's
mask. A little bit. Oh yeah, like when you look
at that reflection in the glass, it does look
like a straight up domino mask. Yeah, yeah. You
know, like the angles are slightly off. We're
nitpicking at best, folks. But yeah, no, that
definitely looks. But the IRM asked it, you know,
because he's kind of got like that large patch
over his right eye. And then it looks like they
I forget what that black stuff is that ballplayers
put under their eyes to. Oh, yeah, I know. It
looks like it took two strips of that and just
like dragged it over his left eye. Stuff like
that. But yeah, they they go to beam and Terry
go to this market. And it's just like I said,
this wonderful meet cute of you know, if they
don't bring Dana back into it. And I do think
that Detective Beam is being set up as a possible
love interest for Terry. But they're talking
about the mayor and how he hasn't been seen for
a few days. And I love just the look as she steals
herself. He's like, let's get something straight.
You see her hand on Terry's collar. He's like,
uh -oh. And she just feeds him the table. Like,
and I mean, feeds him the table. All four food
groups and a cup of coffee. Yep. Absolutely.
Yeah. She basically, yeah, basically slams his
head. And yeah, I mean, And hey, look, you know,
she's got something to prove. And and but again,
this is why I love this story. And this is why
I almost wish this was more of an ongoing than
a miniseries. Like, yeah, I love the way that
Colin and Jackson are writing this. And as we've
already said, the art is just amazing. Yeah,
but I love like how she just gets into his face
and just how his eyes are just like bugger. Yeah.
Like, and then he gets that look in his face
is like next time I'll show her my true face
and she'll make one hell of an ally. But at the
same time, he's like, damn girl. Yeah. And I
love her line. If you, and if you ever come around
me with a fake face again, I will hit you so
hard. Your real one gets rearranged. It was like,
no, we did that false face story. We're not going
to retread. Yeah, we're not. Yeah, we're not
good. No, no amnesia. Yeah, and I love the part
of the as we move on and I'm sorry to kind of
take it over here Just a little I'm just going
through the art a little bit here He said in
his in his monologue. He says the suit still
doesn't show up on scans. You did an incredible
work Bruce. I Love this like trench coat looking
Terry Running down this hallway past this elevator.
You see the full bath suit, but just the whole
trench coat aspect of it was like Oh man, his
Faraday cloak and all that. Yeah, and just all
these things like it's It might not mean a lot
to you folks But for guys like me and Mike who
are you know been comics fan for years? It's
the little like the tropey sort of things like
Batman running down the hall and pulling his
shirt open, you know harpooning up the elevator
shaft Walking into the mayor's office. Yeah And
I knew from, and this is just me, because very
virtue of how much movie and TV's and media I've
consumed over the years, as soon as they were
talking about the Maronade being seen for a few
days, it's like, that asshole's dead. Oh yeah.
And I love the classic kind of hardwood, I love
the, it's not super intricate, but it's got the
high back leather chairs, he's got the glass
of scotch. good cigar going yeah and then hello
batman and it's like i hear dave's voice now
if we gave the living gotham a voice i have one
of two choices for you it's either the original
hal 9000 from 2001 or sarah connor herself linda
hamilton for the living gotham Yeah, I would
probably go hell to hell hell 2 ,000 while hell
9 ,000 most likely Yeah, you know, but I I think
it would be a huge kind of or of the script if
you have a Hamilton Yeah, that would be or if
we want to really tight and I don't think I'm
gonna have to look and see if I Did he pass away?
Is he still alive? I don't remember Oh, yeah,
really cool if we got this in like animation
Yeah, and that's the thing like this is something
I think more Marvel DC would be well to do if
they turn this mini into a Direct -to -dvd feature
Like and because they're doing the tomorrow verse
films, but they're also doing stuff outside You
know else worlds and whatnot. You could do urban
legends number seven as Like one of these short
films that comes out with these DVDs and have
that lead into Something yeah, because and then
when you think about it the whole living Gotham
coming after Terry is akin to a hard act coming
after Bruce and Terry and that's, was that 75th
or 80th anniversary? It was the 75th anniversary.
It was the late great Darwin Cook. Yep. Absolutely
love that. It was that. So there you go. So the
voice of the living Gotham, while yes, I technically
do agree with you, Hal 9000 would be cool. And
while I do agree with you, Linda Hamilton would
be a nice departure. to tie it back to Batman
Beyond. He is still alive. I wasn't sure if he
was or was not, but if we got Stacy freaking
Keach, who was Bobby Vance's grandfather in the
Lost Soul episode of the show. Or even Jeff Bennett,
like let's bring Hardac back, man. Okay, yes,
yes, that would be cool, but like. for the voice
of the living Gotham, can you imagine? Yeah,
no, Stacey Keach, that would be a heck of a get.
I was going to say Douglas Reign, who's the man
that voiced Hal now in thousand in 2001, but
I just looked up here. He did sadly pass away
in November of 2018. Damn. That would have been,
but yeah, Stacey Keach or Linda Hamilton or Jeff
Bennett, like let's bring the OG hard act back.
In fact, even make a line mention the animated
film that the technology of hard act was in some
server buried underneath Gotham. But yeah, so
Terry comes in. We don't know for certain right
away. So it's like I knew the mayor was dead,
but he throws a battering at the mayor's head,
which goes through. Oh, he's trapped in a room.
It's a whole trap for him. Yeah. And the issue
ends with the sort of Gotham. You know this place
is your tomb terry mcginnis and you will die
in it alone as he brings his sword down on terry
as we end the issue with the The next die by
the sword of gotham. Yeah, uh this one straight
up five for me. Yeah, absolutely and As he's
going through like so there are two panels in
these first three issues that I absolutely love
the one panel is I think it's an issue, too where
he's punching through where terry as batman is
punching through the glass And then there's this
one as this ends where part of that that speech
is this place cannot be broken I believe I screenshotted
that at one point and it was my facebook cover
photo because it's just a really cool profile
shot of batman with his fist out Ready to fight
and yeah Uh, wow, what a cliffhanger Yeah, and
I love the look like like that last full page
of the sword as he's bringing his sword the Down
on Terry and how it's got like the light ray
or light tracing off the tip of that Just a very
anime thing. I love that I like I said in this
issue my favorite shot was that kind of two page
spread of Terry and beam sitting in the market
and it starts all the way over in the left side
and you don't even see them until you get all
the way over to the right. And it's just the
idea of like, there's all these people out there
eating like udon and getting like, you know,
street food and just having a moment. And like
I said, I just love this kind of meat queue as
they're talking about shit. And yeah, this, I
can't wait till the next time Mike, cause like
honestly folks, this is one of my favorite. Not
a spoiler spoiler. I'll let you know. This is
one of my favorite Batman Beyond stories ever.
It's yeah. I mean, it's just so and that's what's
so great about the Batman Beyond comics is that
every story is different. We can love every story.
We can like every story. Maybe there's some things
that we don't like or whatever. However, every
time we talk about this character in these stories,
we have whomever's in the writer's seat, creating,
like I said earlier, taking the history of the
franchise of the character of Terry McGinnis,
Batman Beyond, but adding something new. And
this Kmart knockoff Skynet living Gotham thing
with the Sword of Gotham as its agent is something
new, is something cool, is something interesting.
I think it's the first issue. I almost thought
it was Dick friggin' Grayson, because at one
point Terry goes back to his apartment, and he
takes his shirt off, he takes his suit off, or
takes his shirt off, or does something, or he's
bare -chested and whatever else, and I'm like,
huh. I kinda noticed, but I never really noticed
how much Terry and Grayson look alike. Sort of,
kind of a little bit. Hence why I mentioned the
Nightwing thing earlier with the IR mask. but
yeah i mean these creators are adding something
to this character they are putting their spin
on it and they are giving us a great great story
now normally folks we would not split this up
but because we gush about batman beyond a lot
yeah everything We are going to be splitting
these up and next week you'll come back and you'll
hear us talk about issues four through six So
issue three, I assume it's another straight five
for you. Oh, yes Yeah, yeah There's there's no
five ones of five threes of five like I said
just the flow of the second issue wasn't bad
and it's not It seems like you know 20 % taking
20 % of the score off Yeah, because it is just
the flow. It's just the flow is a little uneven
in my opinion. Yeah, it's not bad by any means.
Like I said, this is my favorite Batman Beyond
story of the last few years. Yeah, but yeah,
it's a it's a solid. This last issue is a solid
five. I mean, if you look at these scores in
these first three issues, folks, I wonder what
we're going to rate the series as a whole. Well,
yeah. I mean, obviously. And the thing is, is
that when we created, with the help of our buddy
and co -host Dan Clark, the Comic Concierge,
when we created, along with him and Optimus Solo
and Steve Megatron and myself, when we created
the GCRN Universal Rating System, it was to define
what the five, four and a half, four, three and
a half, three, two and a half, two, one and a
half, one, half point, and zero. I have the link
in almost every episode of the podcast on the
website, geekcasterdair .com. If you go through
and you read that, three is very average. Three
is like, it's okay, we like what we like, but
like two and a half is like, eh, the negatives
kind of take away from enjoying. That's not what
this is. This is, like you said with issue two,
the flow of it, kind of whatever, but it's not
enough where, even though the flow is off a little,
we're still compelled and interested in reading
this story, unless something happens in a comic
that really just turns me completely around.
Won't give up on it. It takes a lot for me to
give up on a comic. Yeah So, you know, but yeah
five four five so so far between the two of us
it's five four five four for each issue and it's
gonna be fun coming back to neo year next week
and I'm very interested to see what happens with
Batman Beyond in the future because the future
happens apparently tomorrow night KNI GHG folks
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