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Kevin Conroy’s Finding Batman Review

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About this Episode

TFG1Mike and Ryan discuss Kevin Conroy's autobiographical comic Finding Batman from DC Pride 2022, illustrated by J. Bone. The story chronicles Conroy's path to voicing Batman, exploring his upbringing in a religious household, his identity as a gay man during the AIDS crisis, his brother's mental health struggles, and the personal experiences that shaped his iconic interpretation of the character. This is a deeply emotional tribute to Conroy following his death in November 2022.

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Mike and it is 2023 everybody. This is the second

week of 2023 here in January. I'm joined once

again, the first time in this new year with Ryan,

the name Flo Merkley. Hello, sir. How are you?

Good. Hopefully this is less of a I don't know.

We had a in terms of our fandoms. It's a pretty

crappy end to 2021 2022 you mean or sorry 2022

2021 was just the dumpster fire overall. Anyway,

yes 2020 was even worse. Hey, yeah good times.

But anyway, yeah 2021 rough end 2022 rough end

damn it It's because it's all flowing together

dude, it's because The time is meaningless at

this point years are meaningless hours are meaningless

minutes are meaningless So we're just gonna restart

this entire recording. Hi. I'm on the Ryan the

unevens look now you can't even say his name,

right so we are here and I've already said enough

on this but we are here dedicating this episode

to the passing of the great Kevin Conroy because

thanks to our pal, Scanner 51, I got access to

the story that Kevin Conroy wrote for DC Pride

2022 called Finding Batman. Kevin wrote this

story. It was drawn uncolored by J -Bone, lettered

by Aditya Bidikar. I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing

that. Adaptation editor was Ariana Tituro. The

editor was Jessica Chen, and it is called Finding

Batman. So before we get too far into the comic,

talk to me about how Kevin and his performances

influenced you over the years. He's Batman. I

mean, we've talked about it on this show and

others that you and I have done, and just when

we talk to each other. When I read a Batman comic,

That's the voice I hear in my head when I read

a book with Batman. That's the voice I hear in

my head and that's not to discredit or You know

insult or whatever you want to say about the

other actors who have done an excellent Job like

Batman is one of the roles that man We've been

really lucky over the years with a lot of the

interpretations and the people to have done it

but my God Kevin Conroy a bit of mine to the

role in every way Yeah, there's there's no such

thing as a bad Kevin Conroy Batman There's it's

not even close. I and again, like I said, I feel

like the nicest thing I can say about him is

that ever since I first heard him on Batman the

animated series in 1992 on That is the voice

when I read No Man's Land, when I read Nightfall,

when I read any Batman story. That's the voice

I hear in my head. And I know I'm not the only

person to say that, but it's genuinely true.

Yeah, absolutely. He epitomized Batman. And what's

really cool about this story is we see a lot

of the reasons why. Yes, absolutely. And I say

quote, what's cool, very tentatively, because

like, ooh, not an easy read. No, this is a very

emotionally charged story. It is his story of

how he, I mean, it says it in the title, finding

Batman, how he was finding the character. And,

you know, you mentioned that, you know, he is

the voice of Batman for a lot of us, and he always

will be, because technically... He redefined

the character because of the fact that Bruce

Wayne is the... Bruce Wayne's the mask. He's

the fake person. Yeah, Bruce Wayne's the mask

and Batman is the guy, but it's also that with

his voice, again, why we always hear his voice

is because he did two different inflections for

the characters. Just an amazing job. Oh, absolutely.

very Different to and he did it without any physicality

You know, he did it without it being shown on

screen. There's no I'm not trying to bash him

because I'm not sorry I'm not trying to bash

Michael Keaton because I think he did an excellent

job, but he's an example of Physically, you know,

they were able to change him and obviously like

there's the costume and the way he moves now

part of that is because of the costume Connor

he didn't get that sort of benefits That he just

has to sort of change his voice subtly Yeah,

and he does it so well I mean there's so many

episodes you could point out just an amazing

performance from everything from early on stuff

Like Heart of Ice doesn't work if you don't have

Batman, like the way he says, my God, whenever

he sees the footage of why, you know, Victor

Freeze would go cuckoo. Yeah. And just he's so

good. And he humanizes Batman so well, because

Batman is so easy to basically be a parody. Yeah.

As in. Like he's the infallible can do no wrong.

Uh, I hate using this term, but whatever Mary

Sue where, you know, he's perfect. And the thing

is over the last, you know, 30 plus years we've

seen that he's not. And that's, that's the point

of the character. He's not perfect. He's not

true. He has a, as we'll talk about when we get

further into this story. Bruce Wayne and Batman

one is the public face one is the private face

kind of thing and There's all kinds of emotions

that go along with that What did you think of?

the drawing style in this Perfect for what it

is like it's not like any other Batman book,

right? You know and it should be noted. We've

talked about this a few times that it's gonna

be difficult to Draw or in my opinion. It might

be more difficult to draw real -life characters

I do the artwork here is fantastic because it

looks it's clearly Kevin Conroy. Yeah, exactly

and it and it's a Younger Kevin Conroy. Mm -hmm.

You know, this is 30 years ago or even longer

Yeah, when he's you know in Juilliard. Yep What

I love about this is the colors like it's not

It's not true black and white there are color

tones to it The only time you really see black

in this entire book in this entire I shouldn't

say book this entire story Because this is one

story within the DC pride 2022 issue Only two

times you see like black background white Text

is the beginning here finding Batman as the title

and then when we get to the end and then the

rest of it is You know black is used as shadow.

Yeah, yeah most of it. It's not a yeah It's it's

yeah, it's very much in shadow and very much

You know all of that and like you mentioned we

get to the you know, what I love about this is

that There's coloring in the there's color in

the lettering in certain instances and yeah We'll

talk about that later. It's Yeah, and by the

way, I should know one thing is a lot of this

story was recounted by Kevin Conroy on the inside

of you podcast with Michael Rosenbaum, which

I Highly recommend listening to either with this

book Yeah, slash story either before or after

but I mean I just recommend listening to it no

matter what that was an amazing podcast and I

Steve and I got to talk to him in 2012 It's been

11 years since we did that interview and I go

back to that a lot because that was a once -in

-a -lifetime fun, amazing conversation. And I

do not say this lightly and I always preface

it every time I say it. It's not to discredit

what happened on 9 -11. And I know everyone has

9 -11 stories, but in my personal opinion, Kevin

Conroy has the most interesting September 11th

story. And he recounted that to us in our version

of what he told us what is my favorite way he's

told that story. And it was just an amazing time

talking to him. And you are absolutely right.

He did recount this, this, this story with Michael

Rosenbaum. And I loved hearing that because on

our interview, we didn't want to get like we

asked him those questions, but like we didn't

want to make it the crux of. Yeah, whatever we

were celebrating 20 years. Yeah, he was an amazing

storyteller and absolutely that comes through

a hundred percent whenever he is Batman and the

story he recounts here of essentially What led

up to the role and what led up to the role is

him being? You know 30 years ago Going to an

audition and as he puts it a medium he had no

experience in for a character he didn't he just

knew very little of and this is the story of

what led up to that as someone who grew up in

a very religious household with You know parents

that were divorcing a brother with issues of

mental health issues of his own. Yep. And Kevin,

who is gay and at a time when it wasn't even

slightly socially acceptable. And then not only

growing up within that, but then leaving and

going to Juilliard and trying to act and be a

gay man during the AIDS epidemic in the 80s when

Nothing was I I mean, I remember it. Well, nothing

was known about AIDS. Yeah, nobody knew we thought

So first of all, I mean one thing was it was

the gay disease. Yeah, you know, it was it was

only gay people who could get AIDS Which we know

is just absolute garbage Yeah, not remotely true.

And then there was all the stuff like oh, how

do you get it? Can you can you? Get it by being

near one of them one of them, you know, it was

it was awful and I can't imagine Having to endure

that and having to endure Having to endure it

in an industry that at the time Was definitely

not open to it as we see in this so we will see

it in this and the funny thing is not funny that

the irony is For me, I am not someone who...

We grew up in the 80s and 90s. I was 12 years

old when Batman the Animated Series hit. And

as soon as I heard those voices, the Bruce Wayne

voice and the Batman voice, I was like, this

is, like we already said, this is my Batman.

This is the voice, but you know, you take it

to any other character or any other character,

like... Optimus Prime, Megatron, blah blah blah,

whatever. The way I was raised is the entertainment

is the entertainment and real life is separate.

And back then we didn't have the internet, obviously.

And we didn't have all this instantaneous connection

to whoever these people were behind the voices.

And personally, and I don't say this lightly.

I cared about the performances. I didn't care

about their personal lives. Their personal lives

didn't matter to me. What mattered to me was

me seeing them or hearing them on the screen

doing whatever they were doing, like their personal

lives were their own things. And this is something

completely different to mention sometime, but

there's a lot of things I Dislike about the internet

and getting to know yeah people and their personal

lives and that kind of thing, but I got to say

getting to know Somebody like a Kevin Conroy

or how you mentioned it. What about Peter Collin?

Yeah, or even Frank Welker or these people these

people are just really good people Kevin Conroy

was a great human being and you know you say

that like and And you know, again, there's no

maliciousness here. You say that, you know, I

only cared about their performance. I like it

more now where I care about their performance

and I care about the person behind it. Yeah,

there's sort of like an added benefit now to

to it in a certain way. Oh, yeah, there's an

added benefit to it now. But what I'm saying,

yeah, absolutely. But again, it's just there

were kids we didn't know. I know. It's kind of

nice that A lot of these get to be more than

actors and more than and it as we see here it's

because they were more than just a cartoon character

to somebody like Kevin Conroy and You know Peter

Cullen could have phoned in Optimus Prime because

it was a half -hour toy commercial. Yeah Thankfully,

but no exactly The fact that these people cared

about these characters for whatever reason. Peter

Collin humanized Optimus Prime by imagining a

firefighter, somebody in his family, in this

case his brother. Kevin Conroy humanized Batman

because he struggled hiding behind a mask for

most of his life, trying to not let people know

he's gay, trying to Go to the funerals in that

community for aids trying to go through that.

Yeah. And then suddenly one day, you know, after

a day of shooting, he gets called the after or,

uh, gay people that, you know, comes. Yeah, so

here's the key instantly gets reminded that he's

got to wear a mask essentially. It's yeah anyway

So here's the thing, you know, he talks about

how His parents were divorcing his you know,

you know all that others schizophrenic his brothers

like I'm an only child But I'm a child of divorced

parents. They divorced, but when I was two, so

I didn't really know too much about the whole

divorce thing, whatever. But it's one of those

things where my dad was still around. My dad

was still, you know, whatever. But by the time

I was 15, I ended up in, and I've told this story

many times before, and this is to tie into what,

you know, what Kevin is saying, with no family

support to rely on, I had to get a scholarship

to any school I hoped to attend and Juilliard

offered that opportunity and the attitude settled

in for me that I was on my own. Well at 15, I

was pretty much on my own because I was in the

state's care, you know, state of Kentucky's care

and group homes and all that and everything else

so I relate to what he's going through in at

least one way and I think a lot of people could

relate to what he various things that he has

gone through in this story. And it's just so

emotionally charged and impactful. And I'm glad

he got the... This man got the chance to do so

many things as the voice actor he was for the

character that he was best known for. He played

Batman in God knows how many animated projects.

He finally, regardless of what anyone feels about

the actual, you know, characterization of the

character at the time, he got to play Batman

in live action. Don't forget video games too,

where he has one final performance coming as

well too, but he's Batman. I saw that trailer

and I was like, oh no. his Batman in the video

game world as well is mmm just it was amazing

just yeah more great work and yeah so for me

as a kid I was never I can't relate to the whole

gay thing because I'm not I'm not gay. But it's

one of those things where as a kid, as a disabled

kid in the 80s, where the only thing people could

see is that my right foot, right hand and foot

turned in slightly, they would make fun of me

as well for various things. And I'm just going

to say it because it is what it is. And I know

it's a different thing for what is being said

in the comic against Kevin, but I was called

a faggot plenty of times. Because that was the

terminology for insults that was used in the

80s for bullies and kids that didn't understand

like Whatever it is what it is and it sucks.

It absolutely sucks It is the most one of the

most horrible words in the English language I

wish we could erase it or the R word that gets

thrown around to that was another one that was

always used and yeah Yeah, and for and you know,

this probably happened to you, but Kevin in this

book then later on recounts speaking with a producer

who answered it and said the same thing and then

proceeded to tell them that, you know, oh, you're

definitely not going to get this job. You know,

you could have told me you were you were gay

as essentially what he's saying is you could

have told me you were gay before this and we

could have saved a lot of time because They're

not going to hire a gay guy to, you know, be

in their production, which, gee, that's great.

Like, it's a reminder of how garbage things were.

And so we have three instances of the word being

used. Yeah. Like you're talking about with the

agent. That's horrible. That's not a one from

his father, which brother. There yeah, sorry

brother His brother Chris. Yeah, the the the

interesting thing here is you have the drunk

doing it first Which is you know a drunk actor?

But still a co -worker we talk Yeah, you know

we talked before this about you know the event

this week in the NFL and these people are all

co -workers and You can you sit you share a kinship

with them? And yet it just gets cut down like

that or reduced to a word. Yeah. And the interesting

thing is as the story progresses past the drunk

actor, we see how he approaches his acting and

the fact that he has is very meticulous, which

is nice and not surprising. No, he's very meticulous

and he dissected scripts. By colors one color

for physical injuries one color for the psychological

state of disrepair One color for his emotional

lot, you know all of this and this got this is

where it leads into Hey kev, i've got this this

this gig and whatever else and this leads into

You know Eventually the other the other part

of the story that next year. So that's yeah where

yeah, he hears from a producer that Yeah And

that's where we get to, you know, he goes home

and he, you know, what I love is the way the

story is told that, you know, he kept the house

in Connecticut, you know, his father had willed

it to him in his will. He kept it there because

it was their boyhood home. His brother Chris

lived there as long as Chris was on his meds,

it was fine and whatever else. And he couldn't

always get home. But, you know, and he goes,

because of the producer incident he goes home

and he finds Chris and you know Chris is kind

of like off his meds and this is where the the

final final insult really kind of hits him and

he calls the the medical people and the the counselors

and like yeah Chris has got to go back into into

the group home or whatever it is the the institution

let's say and We get to the point of him going

in for the audition like you said for a character

about a new animated show absolutely and You

know we get to the point of you know They explained

how young Bruce Wayne had had his parents murdered

in crime alley right in front of him and could

I relate and His reply was let me just get into

the head of the man and see where I go I imagined

myself as a young Bruce witnessing my parents

attacked and crumbling in front of me. I saw

them lying in their blood in the filth of Crime

Alley. I saw my own father lying drunk in a pool

of his dried blood. As Bruce, I held them, I

comforting them in my arms. As Kevin, I cradled

my bloody father as he struggled for life. As

Kevin, I held Chris, cradling him as he raved

at the voices plaguing him. As Bruce, I felt

disoriented and lost, not sure of my identity

as my parents were cruelly yanked from me. I

felt disoriented and lost and as an actor whose

identity was being yanked from him. Was I my

public face or my private face? Had I made too

many compromises? My heart pulsed, I felt my

face flush and my breath grew deeper. I began

to speak and a voice I didn't recognize came

out. It was a throaty husky rumbling sound that

shook my body. And we see the final page of Yes,

I can relate and that page the background is

all in black and he's in the forefront and we

see a distant shot of him and then a close -up

of you know, I felt Batman rising from deep within.

Love this story. Yeah, I mean there's two Yes,

I mean no there's two prevailing thoughts I have

about it. I mean the first is The first is yeah,

thank goodness for this For him because it ended

up being the role and the break of a lifetime

right and then obviously us because we got this

and, you know, got this man who just absolutely

got the character in this version of the character

and then subsequent versions of the character.

He plays and played him differently in Batman

Beyond, where he played an old, essentially broken

Bruce Wayne. We got the dark. live -action Batman

we got every version of him in video games where

he's Again, he is Batman, but he's still a different

one and you can hear there's differences it to

him and The other thought I have is This is why

representation matters Absolutely in comics in

particular, but also everywhere else This was

somebody that understood the character because

he was in their shoes. Yeah. And it's why it's

important for comics and books and characters

like the ones in DC pride because we won't get

these performances or writing of these characters

or, you know, imagine growing up in the eighties

or nineties. early 90s will say and enjoying

comic books if you are black or gay or Yeah,

anything like that Who that you know, who do

you look up to that you have? some form of background

relationship with and You know Kevin Conroy found

a way with Batman Yeah He absolutely did And

yeah, it's I know like I said, this is why it's

important because this is a literal representation

of what happens What can come of it? And yeah

Absolutely, and if anyone wants to you know Know

Kevin read this story, I know I read a little

bit of it here on air but Man just this essentially

is his memoir and as we've already said he has

one more posthumous performance as Batman as

much as I loved him in the entirety of the DCIU

from animated series to beyond to Justice League

I mean all of it is amazing and great and fun

but I think One of my favorite times he was the

voice of Batman Was when he played him in Justice

League action. I will never forget Never forget

him It's either I think it's is it Tim Daley

or is it there was one of the I think it's Daley

I'd have to look it up. But basically it's him

Superman and Deadshot and Deadshot is voiced

by oh Will Scarlet from from Robin Hood with

Kevin Costner. God, what? Christian Slater. And

they're interrogating Deadshot, and Superman's

trying to be the bad cop. And Batman comes in

and is like, would you like a donut? He does

this really weird funny bit, and it's... Kevin

Conroy's voice as a comedic style version of

Batman. You don't expect it. And it's like, it's

just such a hilarious scene. It's so funny and

so great. And the man is sorely missed. You know,

like I said, we're recording this and releasing

this in January of 2023. It's only been a few

months since he passed on November 20th, I think.

I forget. When the actual because it was right

around it was literally it might have I don't

think it was the same day but It was close to

when Jason David Frank passed away as well. I

don't know he passed away on November 19th Yeah,

Kevin died November tell he died nine days before

November 10th so Kevin died 20 days before his

66th birthday 67 no 67th birthday. He would have

been 67 last year Wow, that's oh god He will

forever be Batman always and He has a legacy

that I think most actors could only dream of

Absolutely, it was going to be remembered far

beyond and new generations keep being Exposed

to his performance through the video games through,

you know stuff like It's not just Batman the

animated series that still gets recommended as

one of the greatest animated shows and One of

the best shows to get people into comics And

that sort of stuff the video games through the

art series is absolutely the Arkham series is

still the best Trilogy of comic book video games

and I don't know that that's ever gonna be broken

Marvel's spider -man will see but in any case

like he he's going to live so far beyond this

and There's just so much stuff to remember his

amazing work from Mask of the Phantasm. Oh, yeah.

Or even Return of the Joker. So the animated

films from Batman to, you know, again, all of

the games. Return of the Joker has a line that

he says that I quote all the time. It's at the

end scene when Terry is fighting the Joker and

Terry doesn't know how to fight the Joker because

Terry has never fought someone like the Joker.

Bruce slash bat original Batman's advice is Block

it out and power on through and then Terry's

like oh I like to tell you because before that

I like to talk to you. Yeah Well, yeah, but before

that Kevin said, you know Joker's vein and likes

to talk block it out and power on through and

then cherry says Wait, I like to talk too. And

then he starts getting in the head of the joker,

but that block it out and power on through. I

live by that most of the time if I need to power

through something. So the fact that even though

that was a line that was written by somebody

else for whoever wrote the film, I'm not looking

at the information for return of the joker at

this moment, but that line in his voice, I hear

that in my head all the time for motivation.

And it's just amazing. Amazing, amazing, amazing.

All right, so this year inside the pull bag,

we're not doing an ad break this time around.

I'm gonna try to keep this short, but next week

we've got my buddy Joe Reed and I starting the

Reborn version of TMNT from IDW. So it's just

called TMNT Reborn Volume 1. It's basically issues

101 to 105. At this time of recording. I don't

know what episode 500 Nate's gonna be episode

509 Steve and I are gonna come back and talk

about the new Star Trek from IDW Star Trek number

one two and three. I'm talking about those because

that's the new book with Cisco All right, so

about those Oh, so you don't want four hours

of Star Trek, please? No, I would have to put

in four hours of ads we can talk about that later

But that's the only release in february and then

steve has been wanting to do this for a couple

of years now uh transforming marvelous march

we're going to go back and do the transformers

classics also in march we have our 10 year anniversary

of this podcast so 10 years of the pullback coming

up march 6th of this year after that I don't

know, folks. I've got things written down, but

if they happen, they happen. If they don't, they

don't. I'll have to move things around. I have

nothing set in stone right now for the pull bag.

Let me know when you need a Star Trek expert,

though. Right. Steve's a Star Trek expert, too,

you know. He is. Stop it. He is. He's more of

a Star Trek expert than I am. That's the point.

He's the expert and I'm the one on the edge of

the galaxy there or whatever. So, yeah. This

is Kevin Conway and I am the goddamn Batman.

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this week. If you think this sounds cool, check

it out sometime. I hope you do. What about the

whole secret identity thing? I mean, I trust

you guys, but I'm not sure I'm ready to - Wally

West, Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne. Show off. Red

hair it suits you you think change now That's

gonna do it for us. Obviously far as I know it's

not Why is why the rating is like 99 out of 10?

But I don't think it's a coincidence that people

who have experienced stuff like this Have been

able to translate it to some really good issues

of a Batman book I mean it reminded me a lot

of when we reviewed Paul Dini's story. I was

gonna bring that up. He recounted it. Okay, I

wasn't sure but yeah, it reminds me a lot of

that and how It's one of the benefits of obviously

of Batman It's one of the reasons the characters

endured so much is there's so much that people

can take from it and there's different Things

people can relate to of the character everyone

sort of got a story Like that in them and yeah,

it's interesting to hear two of the most prolific

sort of portions of That part of Batman of the

Batman animated. Yep Things and the video games

as well actually Yeah have stories that, yeah,

relate to the character. Yeah, I was going to

bring up the fact that, you know, before this,

folks, back in episode 350, Ryan and I talked

about another Dark Knight story when we talked

about Paul Dini's A Dark Knight, which, again,

another emotionally amazing, chilling, just wonderful

story. And, yeah, simply awesome. And the rating,

just like you said, it's off the scale. There

really is no rating this. I mean, it's a personal

story. How can you? And we both love it. No,

I give it 99. I understand. Yeah. That's fine.

No, I mean, it's, yeah, it's amazing. And it's,

I don't know, it's tough that it's a reminder,

frankly, that the Batman character There's a

lot of characters that get kind of deified or

people kind of go, you know, oh I Man, I'd really

like to be or wouldn't being blank cool. No being

Batman would suck Yeah, you know, it's you get

all these idiots with Oh god, the Punisher is

another one. But yeah, let's not go into that.

Shut up. You get people who go oh man, you know

this character X is so cool and Some of them

go like, man, I want to be blank. Like, no, it

would completely suck. Yeah. Being 99 % of the

comic book characters would be awful. Yeah. They

all have strange and interesting sometimes. Almost

all of them have terrible backstories. Well,

right. How they became them is just awful or

the worst. So. Yeah, absolutely. Nobody. Very

few of them their story is like man. I was so

happy Stuff was going so well for me Until this

happened and then my life is screwed maybe Tony

for a long time and then you know, he gets the

But yeah for the most part yeah, it's a reminder

that you know Kevin's Performance was born out

of pain. Yeah Of what Dini was able to write.

Yeah is born out of it too. So Yeah, absolutely.

They're they're two amazing amazing people Paul

is still with us luckily and Sadly Kevin is not

and I But he will live on probably. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely Kevin Conrad will live on long

after I'm gone. Yeah, I was gonna say he's people

are going to experience him and he is going to

be the Batman for people for so many years after

either of us are gone. Absolutely. All right.

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As always, make your greatest game into comics

and we will catch you next time! Well, there's

always the direct approach. Snap out of it, Kent.

Or joke against the last laugh. Ah, love. That's

not helping. What? Oh, nothing. It's just, you

always get to be the bad cop. I thought maybe

this time, I could be the bad cop. All right,

Deadshot. We need a name, and we want it right

now! Oh, whoops. A little too hard. Sorry, Batman,

all up. I mean, that's nothing compared to what

I'm about to do to you, Deadshot. If I don't

get what I want, now! What? You'd better watch

yourself with my partner here. Any little thing

can set him off. Superman, we talking about the

same guy here. Why don't you step out, Batman?

I want to have a little private talk with Deadshot

here. Let's put a little light on the subject.

Oh, sorry, too bright? I mean, that's nothing

compared to my heat vision, which would really

do some serious damage. So, talk! You gotta be

kidding me. Coffee? Don't do that! I thought

you might like coffee. It's good. Why are you

showing me your teeth? What is that? You're gonna

need that cough after I get through with you.

Donut. Get that away from me! Is it poison? It's

chocolate. What about you, Batman? I'm not really

a people person. But when you need help, and

you will, call me. Gentlemen, it's been an honor.

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