Matt Martin’s Comic Reading Origin Story

This is writer Kyle Higgins and you've jumped

inside the pull bag only on the Geekcast Radio

Network. It is I, TFU and Mike, coming to you,

the pull bag listeners, and wanted to let you

know that this episode with my buddy Marty Stokes,

also known as Matt Martin, was recorded a long

-ass time ago. I thought I actually lost the

recording because Skype was going through some

updates, and yes, I know Skype is an old technology

and whatever, but I go with what I know. I go

with what, at least in my own brain, works for

me. However, we were able to find the recording.

We did not have to re -record this. So this is

his Origins in Comic Reading episode. I hope

you enjoy it. Hello and welcome to The Pull Bag,

only on the GeekCast Radio Network. This is episode

480, and we are 20 away from 500. I am, of course,

TFG and Mike. Joining me this time is that guy

you may know. He likes DeLoreans, folks. His

name is Marty Stoke, aka Matt Martin. Hello,

sir. How's it going? I assume that's why Marty

Stoke, but I'm sure you'll tell that story. Yeah,

that's it. That's it. It's an old nickname actually

from like like high school Wicked long time ago.

Yes. High school was 20 plus years for me. Oh

god Oh They're behind you Yeah So there you go.

Yes. We are here to talk about Matt's comic origin

story And I remember the first time I was looking

for the other Matt, the one I had on an episode

for for 20. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was for 20

that I had radiant Matt on from the radiant black

podcast. I thought you and he were the same person,

like literally. You wouldn't be the first person

that's done that when. The Radiant Black Podcast

and the Invincible Podcast, aka Circle Guy News,

were just trying to get together. They included

me in the group chat, because they also thought

I was Radiant Matt. And they're like, all right,

let's figure out when we're recording this group

thing. And I responded quickly. I was like, hey,

I just help them out in Discord. I do the moderation

type of thing. I'm not actually officially on

the podcast. I think you want this guy instead.

So they're like, whoops. And then I dropped from

the message. Fun times. Well, I did just finish

Supermassive. I guess you could go green and

just destroy him and become the new Radiant Mad.

A whole bunch of inside stuff here, folks. And

of course, we're here to get... Matt's origins

and how he got into or out of reading comics

I think how we got out of reading comics is kind

of more interesting now, especially in that digital

space But that's a few questions down the line

Did you grow up reading comics and at what age

do you first remember reading or noticing comics?

so I I've always read the funny papers in the

newspapers. That was always my big go -to when

I was when I was little and younger and I tried

to get into actually reading comics. Maybe about

middle school. I tried picking up like Spider

-Man because about that time was when like the

original Spider -Man movies were out and I was

like, oh, this is fucking awesome. Like there's

I want to learn more. And I started to try to

pick it up. And I don't even remember what my

first issue was that I tried that I that I picked

up and tried to read through it. I was like,

I have no idea what's going on. I didn't didn't

know where to start. got a little bit lost and

confused, and then I tried to talk to some of

my friends about it, and I was the only idiot

reading comics, apparently, because everyone

was like, no, we just watch the movies. We don't

know what you're talking about. This sucks. This

really sucks because I thought this was really

cool and, you know, fun and a good time. So after

that, like, I kind of I didn't, you know, I didn't

read comics from there on for a while until recently

again, which Guess I don't know if that's another

question, but I can kind of go into that a little

bit if you want. Mm -hmm Yeah, it's it's down

the line. So as a kid Was there a parent or friend

or just said here kid read this comic go away.

You bother me. I Think my parents were never

really into comics they were into more books

and I ended up reading like the Adventure type

books books with merlinden and magic and mystical

arts type books and You know harry potter I was

a big fan of I mean that was a little bit when

I was a little older and then you had like Percy

Jackson and the lightning thief that that whole

series Read through that and you know books like

that. I really got into it. I never really got

into comics specifically, but there are books

like that and mystery type books and kind of

choose your own adventure books is what I was

always into as a kid. I mean, my parents took

me to the local library and stuff, but it was

always that or magazines. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

The choose your own adventure stuff in the eighties

was, was, you know, between that and like little

golden books and, and, um, the, uh, other like

parents named bears and and all that. And I've

said this on this show before, you know, I've

started out on all that. Then I went to the Hardy

Boys case files. And then at some point I ended

up a John Grisham fan, which why not? You know,

it's good writing. So when you were a kid, which

characters were your favorites? So I really liked

I was really drawn to Spider -Man. And I haven't

picked up the recent any of the recent stuff

recently, but. it's on kind of my backlog to

go through the Gwen Stacy origin and and and

that reading order talking to a couple people

on online and and through Twitter and discord

like they helped me find the best way to read

you know some of that type of stuff because I

find her kind of background interesting and I've

played the marble games and stuff like that and

and with obviously into the spider verse it was

really cool to try to understand more of her

backstory but spider -man is a big one I really

liked Iron Man, especially when that first movie

came out. I think everyone was, wow, this is

awesome. And Iron Man has showed up in a couple

of things that I've since picked up in red, which

kind of goes into the whole why I picked it back

up. So I'll get into that a little bit later.

But those were the main ones. And I also recently

liked Doctor Strange. Really really cool. I like

a lot of his stuff and wanna On my backlog of

reading is the death of dr. Strange because that

that one looks really really good and from what

everyone was saying But I actually tried to pick

up dr. Strange a while back and it was any of

like torrenting some of the old stuff And it

was it was crazy You know read through all that

but I would say those those are the main ones

Mm -hmm. All right, it's that age -old question

DC or Marvel So I like both I mean I and I haven't

read enough comics Ways to really go one way

or the other but like right now I'm reading through

Nightwing's run Kyle Higgins is night night wings

run about you know most the way through that

and I really like the Nightwing character I almost

like I'm better than Batman I've read some Batman

stuff, but I definitely definitely like Nightwing

want to find some more runs of his to read and

I guess it's just it's just You know depends

on what you're hot hot what you're feeling Yeah

for the time right because I really like the

whole detective aspect of it going back to What

I like to read as a kid write adventure stories.

I read I read some of those Hardy Boys Books

as well, and I really like that that aspect of

it and I think that it just depends on what I'm

feeling for the day or when I go to pick up a

book, but they both have their pros and cons

and it really all depends. So I can't pick one.

Yeah, I often don't because my answer to this

question is I like characters over here and I

like characters over there. I've never had a

specific... allegiance to one or the other when

it comes to the comics. However, even though

this isn't about animation, because I have a

whole other origins thing for that, when it comes

to animation, DC for the most part, from 1992

till I almost want to say current, kind of runs

the gamut on Marvel a little bit. Obviously,

we had the Spider -Man 94 series, we had X -Men

92, which, oh, X -Men 92 is 30 years old this

Halloween. Oh, Lord. You know, so, it is what

it is. But yeah, I generally, you know, other,

I go with characters from either camp. I'll save

all of my recommendations for the last few questions

Because I have one thing that I think you'll

like after you're done with Kyle's nightwing

run actually multiple But you'll see later. So

what other publishers do you enjoy reading besides

those two? I Would say right now a lot of a lot

of the indie stuff is good image is Pretty incredible

right now with you know radiant black You have

invincible, right? You have oblivion song. There's

just so much that image is killing it right now.

And I really like a lot of the stuff that's coming

out of there. There's spinoffs from Radiant Black,

of course. There's Radiant Red. There's... There's

the Dead Lucky coming out, there's Rogue Son

which first came out and then a Supermassive

and really looking forward to more Rogue Son

2 which is awesome. I only read the first issue

of the song but I heard that Oblivion song is

ridiculous and it just gets crazy bonkers. and

it's a wild ride. I've only read the first compendium

of The Walking Dead, but I literally have the

second compendium ready to go right by my bedside.

I literally have a stack of comics, both physical

and digital, because a lot of the stuff that

I'm trying to read through and catch up on based

off of people's recommendations is... I get the

physicals from the library for the most part.

The stuff that I have... that I have on display

are put in, boarded and bagged, and I don't even

take them out. As soon as I get them, they get

re -boarded and bagged, and they go in top loaders,

and then they go on my wall. So anything that

I'm actually physically touching or reading,

I get from the libraries, the local libraries.

People sleep on it, but I got the first four

First four volumes of Kyle Higgins is run. I've

got the first, you know, I read through the first

companion of The Walking Dead. I had the second

one, you know, I'm reading through. I've got

Loki and I've got, I also have Deadpool, which

I started reading last night. So like can't,

you can't, you can't sleep on your local library

for those people that are looking to get in and

looking at like, oh, you know, the biggest excuse

with people having, you know, buying comics and

stuff. Oh, it's so much money. It's like, well,

you don't have to buy everything. You can borrow.

or get a subscription, and I'm sure we'll get

into this, comicology, right? We'll get there.

And I know you're going to hate that one. Well,

we're about to get there because question six,

print or digital, which one, both, either or?

And why or why not? I've added the why not. You're

the first person I added. So originally the question

always read, printer digital, which one, both

either or and why? Because from 2013 when I started

this podcast to just a couple of months ago or

a month ago or so, I have sung the praises of

comixology. digital because I am a legally blind

person. I have a 32 inch monitor. I want to be

able to read my comics on my computer, not my

6 .7 inch Google Pixel 6 Pro like as much as

I love my Pixel 6 Pro. Comics are meant to be

read on a monitor that is bigger than 24 inches.

So yes, let's get into this. What's your story

here? So yeah, so this kind of goes back to kind

of how I got back into comics. So I don't know

if there's a question later on, but I'm going

to kind of marry these two together because it

kind of just makes sense from a timelines perspective.

So I got actually into comics or back into comics

when the invincible show Was dropped on prime

first three seasons dropped someone. I heard

it on one of the podcasts I listened to they're

like, oh, yeah against was coming out. I googled

it I was like, oh this looks fucking sweet. I'm

gonna I'm gonna give it a whirl Instantly like

instantly hooked after that the ending of the

first episode I was like, holy fuck and then

I found out I had to do some googling because

I was like I need to know more like right away

And they're like, oh, yeah, this was all based

off of, you know, a Kirkman comic and blah, blah,

blah, blah. And then next thing it came up was

the invincible podcast. And I was like, all right,

immediate download to the invincible podcast.

Found out that there was 144 issues, you know,

available. And I was like, I was Googling it.

And of course, like you couldn't. I'm not gonna

buy 144 issues. That's just nuts Like how's the

easiest way and fastest way that I can consume

this well Amazon three compendiums you can get

them on prime and oh they're on Comixology and

so instead of spending like a crapload of money

because I didn't know what I was getting into

I said screw it I spent the 60 bucks on the three

compendiums and and got it digitally on Comixology

so right after that At the same time they were

running like this promotion whatever get get

whatever You know get whatever months free of

comixology. So I said sure what the hell, you

know so I signed up for that and and instantly

my comic journey or reinstatement began and and

I was you know, I started looking in Twitter

and finding this whole Twitter group and people

and following and I was like Oh my god, like

there's people that I can actually talk to cool

things about So I needless to say I I ripped

through 144 issues three companions of invincible

through comics ology and I was instantly hooked

it like instantly the guided view alone was amazing

mm -hmm like it took my breath away and some

reading through some of the invincible stuff

like And have you read have you read invincible?

No, I haven't but just the guided view technology

alone Like that's the point here is is the guided

view technology because yeah, I mean, you know,

I've got I've got Radiant black number ten pulled

up here just because oh my god those colors Wow,

yeah, so, you know There used to be a button

folks now on the comics ology app at least on

phones You can see what see what gets me Yeah,

yeah, you just double tap. What gets me though

is, and I asked them about this, why isn't there

a Microsoft Store Comixology app? So at least

I can still have Comixology on my computer the

way that I want to. Because don't nobody want

to be freaking Dr. Zoom. Don't nobody want to

use Amazon. Kindle is great for books. Kindle

is great for reading actual written word books.

Kindle comics, blah, I think I just threw up

in my mouth. That's just disgusting. They mishandled

this so many ways. And the fact that, especially

if you're on a phone, if you have the let's just

say a giant panel sometimes you have to rotate

it and it blows up so nicely and seeing this

on a computer screen is just so much better because

it just it takes your screen to a whole new level

and I'm sorry sorry Amazon you fucked up Yeah,

they did well whatever you did like and all is

like So and this has been good. We mentioned

this in episode 473 we went through this whole

thing So I'm not gonna try to rehash this on

your origins episode. However Amazon announced

that they were gonna be buying comics ology or

whatever back in 2014 They had eight years This

podcast has been online for nine years in 2013.

They've had eight years and all of a sudden Oh,

it's a it's an Amazon company. It's fine. It's

great. Nothing is gonna change Blah blah blah,

you're still gonna have the same experience.

They waited eight years and they fucked everything

up because All is they had to do if they really

wanted to integrate it into Amazon It's comics

ology .com. Okay, amazon .com slash comics ology

You didn't have to change the comics ology website.

You didn't have to get rid of it You didn't have

to do anything if you really wanted the Amazon

name on comics Just put amazon .com x ology .com

That's all you got to do and I said this back

in episode 473 and I don't want to say any more

but it just It's so frustrating Yeah, they've

got the guide of you alone is incredible and

yep I mean, I mean there were parts when I was

reading through invincible where like I had to

put it down Oh, yeah, it took my breath away.

I was like, I was like, holy like Jesus You got

to be like you got to be kidding me and I need

to take either pause take a breath and then like

I dug back in but you know, I end up ripping

through all that and it's kind of crazy because

around the same time like my daughter and I I

have two kids. My oldest is seven and my youngest

is gonna be two pretty soon. And my wife and

I used to read to my daughter every night, my

oldest every night and we would read, you know,

the smaller books, get to the bigger books. And

we tried to get her to read on her own. And she,

for some reason, like she loved it when we read

to her, but for some reason she couldn't, she

didn't wanna read by herself. So superhero stuff

and I started showing her Not invincible obviously,

but like other stuff that I started to poke around

with the comics ology that I started to poke

around and read, because if you have the unlimited,

it's like it's worth it to poke around and pick

and see what you want. There's things like you

soggy, which is really cool. You know, that's

cool to kids. And we actually read through some

of that, but like seeing that. And then what

I ended up doing was I ended up buying this book

because she was interested in superheroes. And

i heard on another podcast i listen to there's

this book called marvel powers of a girl and

it's by lorraine sink who is deep into the marvel

you know it's all about like female marvel characters

so i bought her i bought her the hardcover and

it came a couple days later i said listen let's

like like take a look at this let's read through

this and why don't we together pick pick one.

superhero that you think is really cool and um

I will go out and we'll buy the physical comic

and we'll read through it does she so we you

know we took two three four days looking at the

book and reading through the powers and the origins

at a high level of each of these superheroes

and she ended up picking she ended up picking

squirrel girl which is out of all of all of the

people that are in there You have Miss Marvel,

you have Spider -Gwen, you have Monica Rambeau,

you have all of these crazy, overpowered superheroes

in some way, shape, or form. And I mean, Squirrel

Girl is pretty freaking powerful, too. But she

picked Squirrel Girl. And I was like, well, why'd

you pick Squirrel Girl? And she was like, because

I like her tail and she seems pretty cool. And

I was like, all right. So I bought three volumes

of Squirrel Girl. And she freaking loved it.

Like she absolutely loved it. She was able to

start reading stuff on her own You know like

it was it was She just she just immediately with

the pictures and like I had a teacher how to

read right? Of course when you have a physical

you have to learn how to read it It's not yeah,

not as straightforward and I was kind of pointing

to the panels as I was going to it But like she

was immediately hooked because you had pictures

you had cool things happening and you had interesting

characters and from then on out like We still

at night will read comics together instead of

books and Marvel Unlimited is great with that.

So like right now we let's see We've read through

Adventure Time the entire series and now she's

you know, she we've read through that we were

reading through sonic Which is which is a ton

of fun and and they do such a good job with that

I remember the comics growing up. So we're reading

through that now. We've read a bunch of you soggy

and it's really cool because like I was talking

about how I started to get hooked back into And

finding this community and finding you know finding

the radio black podcast to which which is kind

of a whole nother side story which i'll get into

a minute but you know along in this journey like

people are willing to share knowledge and i didn't

have it before. So like if you if you're on comic

book twitter and you find the right people to

interact with a ton of fun recommendations i'm

trying to figure out you know what i want to

read to my kid i read this is my kid like. Bash

has sent me a ton of stuff under and other people

in discord, which is which has been great too

And so if you love I'll plug it here and I'll

probably plug it at the end but if you love radiant

black and And you love the you know, you love

rogue son and supermassive and you're not on

the disorder the discord server You need to be

yeah, it's there's like 250 people on it, right?

You have Kyle and all the other creators are

on it. Yeah, and we interact with them on a regular

basis Yeah, it's you know, it's got emoji like

all radiant black emojis it's got radiant black

stickers it's just it's just a ton of fun the

only thing and i'm not asking for this i am not

asking for this because i won't be able to read

it even with my decoder thankfully the radiant

text has not taken over fully because i wouldn't

be able to read up saying what everyone says

As much as I love the radiant text and how cool

it is Yeah And since you mentioned Kyle and you're

mentioning the creators on the discord with radio

black discord It is awesome. It is fun. I love

that we live in a day and age where creators

and fans alike can come together and be civil

with each other and just have fun and not have

to worry about Oh my god, you ruined my character,

so I'm going to insert whatever threat you want

to insert here to your house or whatever. Don't

do that crap, folks. If you're not liking something

that a creator is doing, express that you don't

like what they're doing and then just leave it

at that. Don't be a dick, basically. The other

thing, since you mentioned Kyle, I actually tweeted

at him the other day. So this is the first episode

of The Pull Bag that will be heard close to the

end of the month, actually. That sadly breaks

my heart. So at the beginning of March, middle

of March, really, March 16th, we had the release

of Radiant Black Volume 2 in trade paperback.

So that's issue 7 of 12. Yep, just came out.

Yep. So on that day or whenever it was, and this

is not helping me. So whenever that was, March

16th that it came out. Yeah, yesterday. By the

time people will hear this, that's like three

weeks ago. But I immediately. Just sent out a

quick tweet saying hey Kyle. Hey Sam. Hey will

the second volume Be getting a score because

I loved Sam Ewing's music For the first six issues.

I said, uh, yeah I said hey at Sam J Ewing at

Kyle D Higgins. Will there be a radiant black

score for issue 7 to 12? Kyle says, no, not at

this time. Damn it. Because it's just one thing.

And look, OK, there won't be one. I can just

sit here and say, my damn it, and move on. And

OK, I have an answer to my question. And that's

fine. I'm disappointed that there isn't going

to be one because That's one of the things that

Kyle in his creator -owned journey has done.

There's a soundtrack for Cowell. There is a soundtrack

for where Cowell comes from, his movie, The League.

Obviously that was his, you know, independent

filmmaker movie thing that he did. There's a

soundtrack to this there's a soundtrack to that's

almost everything he does includes a sound like

the whole Power Rangers thing There's a you know,

there's a soundtrack for that and whatever The

fact that Shattered Grid has its own theme from

Ron Wasserman of all people, you know, obviously

because hello Ron Wasserman is the the Power

Rangers Music king and you know what am I disappointed

that issue seven or twelve aren't gonna get a

score at this time? Sure Does it mean I still

don't enjoy it doesn't mean that I still can't

interact civilly with the community like I'm

not gonna go off on a shooting rampage because

there's not gonna be a score to a comic book.

I Don't know. It's just one of those things where

You're right if you find the right people on

comics hashtag comics anything whether it's Twitter

Facebook discord MySpace, LinkedIn, Friendster,

whatever. As long as you find the right people,

that's fine. It's when you run into those people

that want to, you know, close the gate on you,

so to say. This has gone down a wild ride, so

tell the rest of your story. I'm so sorry. And

I'll say this too, like our Discord server is

radiant black and Supermassive focus, but we

have other comic sections and all that so yeah

Yeah, so like so that's just another Avenue and

another reason why to why to hop in and hop on

and and I'll say this I'm not making any promises

and I mentioned this once on another on the radio

black podcast, but there's a guy in the Server

discord server Nick who's done some of the emojis

for us and he actually created a font program

for radiant black so i'm now trying to take that

font and i'm trying to create a discord bot that

will spit out you know you you give it text and

it'll spit out the radiant font you are evil

evil i'm not going to be able to do it the other

way because i'm not going to so i'm not going

to get in too technical about about the rationale

but but discord the scored markdown really sucks

from a text perspective. So the only way to really

do it is to basically input the text and then

spit out an image of what the font is going to

be. But anyways, something that I'm working on,

I don't know if it's going to work out or not,

but I'm doing it on the side of my desk when

I have time. But we'll see what happens. There's

another reason to potentially join the server,

but we're all good people. And that's the best

part. Like you said, finding the right people

to interact with and staying away from the negativeness

of Twitter is that. And that's really the best.

You get the best of both worlds as long as you

don't interact negatively, right? Because you

could just ignore it. That's the easiest thing

to do on Twitter. You don't have to answer every

tweet that people tweet at you if they're trying

to... and then there are people yeah yeah yeah

so Johnny Knoxville's of the world oh lord okay

who are some of your favorite writers so like

um i i like Kyle's writing obviously with radiant

black you know i've read through Would say three

-quarters of shattered grid, you know, I think

I've read the first seven volumes I have to read

through that to finish that up Kirkman is fucking

incredible with what I've read so far on you

know all of invincible, of course as well as

the Walking Dead and then you know also with

Oblivion song I can't wait to jump into that.

So that's you know Saga right is another one

And staples like Jesus I'm reading through the

first compendium on that but to try to get caught

up with everybody else You know, so that that's

another one but So those are those I would say

are some you obviously have you know, Ryan parrot

the rogue son I really like what he's doing there

and then the latest moon night run right is Is

pretty fucking awesome. I don't know if you've

read. Have you read the latest moon night? It's

it's so good. It's with um Who writes McKay?

Kapu Kapulo and and Rosenberg or capucho capucho

probably pronounce it on but Really really good

Yeah, Judd Judd McKay This is a writer there

very cool What defines a good story to you? Finds

a man. That's it something that has a lot of

action, but has a general theme to it, or multiple

themes intertwined, something, you know, that

makes it relatable to me. I think now, you know,

we're kind of around the same age. Yeah, we have

a bunch more life experiences. So being able

to tap into those, those life experiences that

I've had, and to find stories and intertwine

that are really awesome. Like, Radiant black

right away. I was never in debt Grand holy holy

fuck does that panel like really hit to me? It's

like I remember coming out of college working

my ass off multiple jobs and like trying to get

ahead and I know what that feels like So right

there like that had me hooked and I was like

fuck I know exactly what they're going through

like I lived through that shit and it's really

it's really really awesome to kind of see writer

take that and and and run with it and make the

character so relatable which is why I think radiant

black does so well yeah and and has been doing

so well rogue son is a little different because

this we don't know too much and he inherits the

powers but I'm really interested to see like

ass rich guy is gonna turn himself around and

be a hero so that's always something you know

Yeah, a little different swing on things, but

and I think that's why invincible was so cool

to not not to be, you know, heavy with radiant

black and invincible with us or, you know, with

this podcast, but that's really where. You can

connect to things like mom and dad sitting at

a table and and making you go do X Y &Z The only

difference is your dad's a superhero. Well, how

fucking cool is that? It's what it dreams, right?

My dad is a superhero or my mom is a superhero

or my mom, you know XYZ has superpowers like

that's just something you dream of so to have

that come come to life is Is really freaking

cool and really drives you like drags you in

Some of the themes with the DC stuff too are

Especially with your life experience like with

with life experiences to pull me and that's kind

of why I really like Nightwing Nightwing has

a lot of that he battles with a lot of that type

of stuff and and I can relate to a lot of the

things in one way or another to pull me into

the story in a different level than just the

art which is awesome and the writing right because

there's always that person if you can get connected

at that personal level it just makes it makes

the read so much so much more fun in my opinion

yeah and back in 2013 when i had kyle on the

show the only time i've ever talked to the guy

in that interview he says oh i'd love to go on

to power rangers he eventually went on to power

rangers and other things and whatever but during

that conversation where he comes from is where

we come from batman the animated series and all

of its subsequent retitlings where Lauren Lester

is the voice of Dick Grayson, whether he's Robin

or Nightwing, but he is the voice of Dick Grayson,

that version of Robin. And with that, when you're

reading Kyle's run, If you don't hear Lauren

Lester in your head, you haven't watched enough

Batman animated series, because I swear to God,

how far in are you with that? I don't want to

spoil anything for you. In the Nightwing run?

Yeah. I am just, I stopped after the third book,

so I have volume. Okay, so you have volume four

and five. Okay, so yeah, so basically... I'm

gonna say this now and I've said this on this

podcast before and it's not Kyle, it's DC Comics

and at the time it was the people that were running

certain things at DC Comics and I've made this

joke before, it's not Dan DiDio, it's Dan DiDildo

because he hates Nightwing and he wants Nightwing

to die at every single, so I'm sure you knew

Forever Evil and blah blah, like it was big news,

it wasn't, like this isn't a spoiler, so. Kyle

wrote up to, I think? Yeah, he wrote. Volume

five, I think. Yeah, he wrote volume five. I'm

trying to remember if he didn't write issue 30

or if he did. Because issue 29 kind of is the

ultimate send -off, I think, personally. And

once you get to issue 29, you're going to see

and you're going to be like, oh, wow. Because

that's just the way it is. All right. What does

a story have to have to draw you in? So basically,

you go and you see the comic on the comic book

store shelf, or you see it on Amazon, or whatever.

And you open the first page. What does that first

couple of pages have to have for you to say,

OK, when you finish the first issue of a comic,

What does that first issue have to have to say?

Okay, I'm gonna come back and read the second

issue the third issue the fourth issue, etc Yeah,

so I think part of it has to it has to have good

art If the art if the art isn't good and I don't

like the art. I mean There's different styles

of art, right? So what I may like versus what

somebody else may like are two totally different

things but the arts got to draw me in like with

Marcela Costa and and lettering by Becca Carey

with Radiant Black, it immediately drew me in.

It just made the read that much more enjoyable.

You know what I mean? So having great art and

great coloring and great lettering, you know,

Igor Monti, right? Can't forget your colorist.

A lot of the issues. They're amazing. And they're

really, they're a good follow on Twitter, too.

It has to have good art and it and and it has

to have good lettering because If you can't part

of part of the story is the pictures Picture,

you know, it's just like a cartoon. It's got

to have good art It's got to make sense. The

story also has to make sense along with it And

it's got to be you know, kind of like a relatable

from a story perspective Those are the biggest

things that draw me in Which is kind of why I

was hooked right off the bat With radiant blacks.

It was so relatable and and the art is fucking

ballistic. It's it's out of control What what

they've done? And and how they how they draw

and and and everything it's it's just it's just

crazy It's on a such a different level with all

these with all the covers and the cover You've

probably heard the radiant black podcast talking

fucking cover game of radiant black. Oh, it's

unmatched. It's bananas Fucking bananas. Yeah,

it is unmatched Yeah And it's it's it's just

so so those those are the main, you know, those

are the main read things right off the bat I

mean in eight, let's just say 80 90 hell screw

it. Let's just say almost a hundred years of

comics I don't think anyone I could be wrong.

So if I'm wrong in saying this someone please

gently Message me in Twitter or shoot me an email

tfgomike at gmail .com whatever but I'm going

to say this in let's just say almost a 100 years

of comics history there has never been a blacklight

edition issue where you can take a blacklight

and go over the comic and these fluorescent inks

that they used oh my god Issue 10 of Radiant

Black, if you're reading it without the blacklight,

it's an acid trip. But if you read it with the

blacklight, it's like you dropped acid into a

shot of vodka. Yeah. It's just, it's bonkers

good. Yeah, it's so good that on my wall right

now. I have a black light box that lights up

that I built from Amazon that you can open and

change the pages to. And that was the start of

my my kind of display that I have going on right

now of supermassive, which turning into supermassive

verse. But like that was the first thing that

I put on my wall. And as soon as that came out,

I preordered one. And then that pre -order didn't

come fast enough. I went to my local comic book

store and I was like, fuck this. And I called

them. And I was like, they're like, yeah, we

got one. And I was like, you're holding that?

I'll be there in 20 minutes. Ran down, grabbed

it, and then built the box. The box is on my

wall. It shit lights up. It's fucking incredible.

So I have that in there. And then I have the

regular Blacklight book that's in a... Top loader.

I have the freaking radiant black black light

poster, and I also bought the I have a 9 .8 coming

So, you know 9 .8 of the very great and what

graded and signed by Kyle Hagan I'm still waiting

for that I got them I got I got one of the one

of the first ten that dropped and Here's another

reason why to be in the discord server because

guess what? Think six or eight of us in that

the score server out of the ten that were available

got them the first drop Wow, that is also we

messaged we said up they dropped go go and Six

or eight of us got it. Yeah. Yeah so the other

thing before since we're talking about radiant

black and everything else and Before I move on

to the next question the other thing with radiant

black that it did that no other comic to my knowledge

has ever done and I wish it would have won an

Eisner award at the time when the issue dropped

issue number three the writing day issue I have

never seen a comic I've been reading comics for

nine years now in nine years I have never seen

a comic do what that comic did so fucking good

and Yeah, this this definitely deserves its its

own Award for anything that image is doing right

now with the massive verse or whatever they're

gonna call it I know that's what everyone else

is calling it I don't know if that's the actually

what they I think I've heard Michael and Kyle

say it is the massive verse but I don't know

if it's that I don't know if it's that like it's

Engrained in stone like you have the Marvel Cinematic

Universe kind of thing Anyway, yeah, it's so

good folks Who are some of your favorite? Comics

artists. Oh man. Wow Marsha Marcella Costa Yeah

Igor Monty, yeah, everybody from radiant black

right you got pretty much Yeah, Becca Carey.

Anyone that does line art, anyone that does coloring,

anyone that does lettering, essentially anyone

on the Radiant Black team that works on Radiant

Black is going to be a favorite because this

book looks, I think the only thing, and she's

only shown up a few times, and I shake my head

at it because I listened to the Radiant Black

podcast episode when, oh my God, Nathan got hurt,

why didn't you call me, oh my God! Oh, Kathy,

my ass. And my mom's name is Kathy, like seriously,

it's not, and my mom's been dead since 2015,

so it's not like it's a, but I'm just like. Who

is this Cathy character? Why haven't you given

us a single issue or a single panel explaining

her? Like seriously, my biggest conspiracy theory

with her is she's the radiant robot in human

form. I want to see her be like a super villain

or something like that or somehow tied in in

some way shape or form where like she comes in

and she's got powers of some kind and she's really

been keeping tabs on everybody or somehow connected

with Marshall like there's there's so many villains

that are coming up with Black and and like so

much story that like that could potentially go

in 12 different directions like they haven't

gotten truly cosmic yet which is gonna be nuts

but Kind of, I don't want to be too heavy. The

artist, yes. Yeah, the artist. So like, Kill

Lock by Livio Remondel. Okay, so here we go.

Livio Remondeli. There you go. Thank you. Yeah,

I can't, yeah. Thank you for directing me. He

is fucking awesome. He is. And Kill Lock. So

bash introduced me to the kill lock the first

one. Mm -hmm guy wrote it and fucking drew it

I know he's like big into the transformers. Oh,

yeah in the transformers world So I'm sure you

know a lot about I know you guys talk about Transformers

and the transformers is something that I want

to get into but like like this guy does not does

not get enough credit for the shit that he does

because Like that's hyper talent right there.

Like he writes it and he draws it like How many,

how many comic book creators do that on a regular

basis? And, you know, like, it's amazing. The

shit that he does is amazing. Yeah, I have not

read the first volume yet. I have it. I actually

just opened it on Myxology. No, you're right.

I'm sure it is. I mean, it's him. So the thing

with Livia Remedeli in Transformers is the man

has a style all his own. Oh, he does. And it

is it is very cosmic looking. He takes things

so much. Yeah. He takes these Cybertronian robots

and the style that he draws them with. Colors

them he doesn't always do the colors but a lot

of the times most the time he will do his own

colors most of the time sometimes I don't remember

off top my head but like the man is Amazing.

He is so cool. He is so fun and Yeah, I mean

one man machine Mean I liked him so much. I bought

like I bought the supermassive variant of his

so he drew a super and then I gave it away on

Twitter because I Well, I wanted I like more

people need to know about this like Freaking

variant was amazing. But I get like I got a 300

followers giveaway that that I gave away that

variant and You know a copy of that variant so

to share the kind of show their wealth But the

another artist right it goes without without

saying Invincible artists right Ryan Otley like

Jesus Christmas. Yeah the shit that he draws

not only invincible but like Hulk his Hulk run

like I haven't read his Hulk run, but I've seen

freaking pictures and I've seen posts about it

and and holy shit like He just takes it up to

11 on everything he does. And Michael Posuto

hopped in our Discord one day and he was like,

hey guys, we're compiling a list of artists that

we're thinking of for all future books and things

in general. What do you guys want to see? And

so we ended up compiling a bunch of lists and

making a Big poll and having people vote on it.

But but Ryan Otley was like On the list. It wasn't

even funny. Like he probably got the most or

almost the most votes. Wow You know, so he thought

we'd really love to see him do a radiant black

Cover or whatever variant, you know, but he's

awesome, you know capullo is Incredible. Yeah,

I'm on so many different levels. So those are

the main ones that I think are out of this world.

Absolutely. Yes, thank you to all the writers,

all the artists, everyone that does comic creation,

editors, whatever. Like I said, the last 80,

90, 100 years, from where comics started to where

they are now, thank you to everybody because...

There has been some amazing things and yes, I

know there have also been some cringe -worthy

things. I'm looking at you 1990s red blue yellow

art anyway Do you have a favorite non superhero

title? Superhero title Well, I mean oblivion

songs pretty good saga is So I would say those

are those are to the kill lock, you know say

that one again It is is definitely I Don't know.

It's more cosmic and more of sci -fi Sci -fi

II than anything else. So yeah, those are Those

are three cool cool What is your favorite run

of a series? So the best way I can explain this

is like Batman 1940 from 597 to 604 or something

like what's your favorite? Story arc run kind

of a series from a series So I I haven't read

quite as much as most people, you know just trying

to get back into it and take recommendations

for a lot of people but I Have to go back to

just invincible, right? It's so good It's it's

it's so good, and I don't want to give too much

of it away because I know yeah Yeah, but you

get there's so many different arcs and I I went

into Fails we got invincible spoiler heavy when

I was on the radiant black pod But you know just

talking through those I don't you know I don't

want like I said I want to spoil it for you But

there's there's a bunch of runs that hit so freaking

hard In there, I mean the whole series hits hard,

but like there's some that just Absolutely crush

you and I'm really excited For what prime season

2 and season 3 is gonna be like and what actually

and when we're gonna see stuff Because I'm hoping

for some of that to to come to light in these

next couple of seasons on on TV Absolutely What's

a comic you can read over and over again single

issue or trade? Well, I mean I've read radiant

black So many times a bunch of times we'll read

through it two three times like You pick up on

all these little things. I think the best and

I know I'm talking, you know really in black

heavy, but One thing I really like about Radiant

Black with what Kyle's doing and the whole creative

team, is they're putting little Easter eggs in

the various issues. If you go back to like issue,

was it seven, I think, when they're in Tokyo,

there's billboards and one of the billboards

has the characters on it. One of the billboards

has the ordinary gods. poster so he's like melding

the universes together if you look in spots there's

there's references to cowl and and and characters

from there so there's all these easter eggs that

the worlds are really interconnected and intertwined

and I think the best part about like radiant

black is that it's it's a crate it's a crate

your own book so he could do it over the hell

he wants he's not he doesn't have anybody telling

him what to do or not do yeah other than like

Other than Michael saying hey, you can't say

that yet All the friggin time but Like I think

it's really cool and that makes you want to read

it again You know, I haven't read through invincible

in a while But I've done I've done a full read

through and I've read through bits and pieces

of it I really want to do another full read through

to see if I can pick up on things like that to

see if there's any interconnections anywhere

or you know kind of precursors of what's gonna

happen and you know going forward but like that's

kind of one of the cool things about about radiant

black that you know allows you to see some of

that stuff and we get it a little bit with Rogues

with sorry with with radiant red and and I'm

sure we'll probably get some more tie -ins with

with rogue Sun since it's all part of like the

same universe which is really cool so on the

flip side of this Are there comics you avoid

altogether? Like you go into the comic shop and

you see XXXXO, oh wait, I need to avoid that,

or I don't like the way that looks, or anything

like that. So again, kind of with me trying to

feel things out as to what I like to do, I'm

more apt to pick something up and to try it,

to see if I like it, than to steer away from

it. But, and a lot of it comes from recommendations

from people and stuff like that. So I haven't

really found anything that is cringe worthy.

I would say other than some of the stuff that

my daughter picks out that's wicked, wicked,

wicked kitty, right? That she likes to read now

because she now has her own love for comics.

We'll go and show stuff out that she likes to

see. And I was like, oh yeah, that looks like

fun. Probably not for me, but you know. You know,

you're a kid, you like different things. Some

of the art is, you know, the art's gotta be there.

If the art's there and it seems like a good story,

I'll pick it up and I'll give it a try. But nothing,

as long as those two things are met, I'll try

it and see what happens. Right. Are there any

comics in the past or currently that you wish

you hadn't read them? So basically, if you read

a comic and you're like, oh God, I feel like

I wasted my time. I don't know like some of the

comics there are parts of them that are good

and There are there are parts of them like That

they do things that it's just like not for me,

right? So I'll give you an example like this

this run the run of Nightwing that I'm reading

now I like it I like the I like a lot of parts

of it but one thing that kind of drives me a

little bit bonkers is The need for them to do

a recap When you know you read through you read

through one issue and you're reading that you

read the trade That's got like three four issues

in it and then I have to spend two pages to do

a recap of what you just fucking read That's

right. Like it's just like oh my god. I wish

I could skip these two pages, but I'm probably

gonna miss something so, you know, it's just

like one of those things where That like I don't

say no is annoying to read but but I end up reading

through them because I like the overall story

but things like that kind of drive me a little

little nuts and I was like well that was a waste

of two pages right may not be the whole comic

but that was oh that you know that was kind of

a waste but right yeah the whole I haven't gotten

to a point where like the whole comic was was

hot was a hot mess and I and I completely just

you know kabashed it yeah I I don't understand

and I there's supposed to be a difference between

the collected editions versus the single issues

and Sometimes there isn't I don't know. It's

just really weird at times and I don't know it

is what it is. I guess all right How large or

small is your physical comic book collection?

Well, it's probably small compared to most people

because everything that I collect physically

is all radiant black related I have My goal is

to display everything on my wall. So, you know,

I posted I posted it before on on Twitter I'll

have to send you a picture but like what I have

let's see on my wall right now 25 I'd like 25

Comics on my wall right now, and I know I have

I have a bunch more pre -ordered I think I have

about another 20 coming that I've are that are

in a pull box that I'm waiting for my box to

get big enough to ship because one of the places

that I use is cap can They have a nice point

system and you can kind of basically pre -order

stuff with your points and then you know ship

it when your box gets big enough and then you

just pay for shipping once because The shitty

part about, I don't have a really good local

comic book store. I don't have a really good

LCS. There's an LCS which is like, I don't know,

25, 30 minutes away, and it's big, and I don't

know. It's like in a mall. It's not like local

comic book feel. You know like a mom -and -pop

shop. So the vast majority of my shopping I do

online and paying for shipping sucks But I will

say when we started to have this conversation

before I think we started recording is People

that pose that fucking ship via media mail needs

to be kicked in the knees because I just got

a comic That came to me Then I ended up buying

off eBay that had a like the whole corner is

fucked up And this person shipped it via media

mail. I have no problem if you're going to ship

it, I'll pay five, eight bucks to ship it the

right way. But this guy probably spent a dollar

to ship it, and it came all destroyed. So I guess

shipping has to be good. So my digital collection

is a lot bigger, which is why I continue to get

comixology. Good, bad, or indifferent, I know

the bad things about it. It sucks, but the guided

view and to be able to take 50 comics on my iPad,

wherever I want to go, and not fuck them up,

that's the thing. So I'll read this, and I love

the guided view. I actually prefer reading guided

view over the physical read, just because it's

a... It's a panel -by -panel reveal. It's not

a page -by -page reveal, and it hits that much

harder. It hits that much harder because they

are taking you in story order of where they want

your eye to go. Again, like I said earlier in

the episode, I will fully support the Comixology

app. I just want the cowards at Amazon to put

it Windows put it on the damn Microsoft Store

so I can continue to read these things on my

computer. I don't want to use the damn Kindle

app Nobody should be using a Kindle app for comics.

I threw up in my mouth again. Oh good Yeah, what

was the Okay, so this good, okay What's the one

comic you could never live without ever ever

live without ever God well, that's probably right

now invincible or radiant black Having you know

having the continued series. I mean is is is

a win I'm glad I was introduced to it. It's just

like the fan base is crazy, too It's just a lot

of fun to interact with everybody as well. So

I would definitely say one of those two just

because I'm getting into this. And that's the

other thing too. I got into this thing and I'm

getting back into it late in the game. So trying

to figure out where to pick things up and what

runs to read and how to read them without getting

lost has been super helpful with the community.

Between Twitter community and Twitter comic book

community and the Discord community. Because

otherwise, for Marvel and DC, it's hard. Like,

where do I start? What runs do I read? Like,

can I just jump in here? Like, the latest Moon

Knight run. Like, I had a conversation with a

bunch of people on Discord, and a few people

on Twitter, and they're like, yeah, you can hop

right in. It's fucking amazing. I was like, sweet,

I'm in. And I'm, you know, I'm glad too, because

the Moon Knight show is gonna be coming out.

It's gonna give you all the background that you

need, because I've never read anything Moon Knight

related before this latest run. So that's, like,

kind of, you know, the beauty of of being a part

of something from the get -go, like Radiant Black,

because Radiant Black is just constantly building

on itself. Now we're two volumes out, we're getting

into volume three. You can jump into Supermassive

and be fine and read Supermassive like a one

-shot and still have a sense of what's going

on, but if you try to pick up issue 13, 14, 15

of Radiant Black... You're gonna be so lost.

You're gonna be missing out on... Yeah. It's

nice to be a part of something from the get -go.

Yeah, absolutely. Which is fun. It's been a fun

ride. Yeah. You know, all the respect in the

world to all of the previous writers that helped,

you know, the comics industry along. As soon

as I hear the name, I'm like, what's he doing

now? As soon as I hear Kyle Higgins' name, what's

he doing there? He's literally, and it's all

because of his Nightwing run. And the thing I

will suggest to you in a few moments, because,

holy crap, just amazing, but I'll mention that

in a minute. Was there, this ought to be a good

story for you, was there ever a moment you were

done with comics? So I in the beginning right

when I tried to pick up comics the first time

to To try to get into it I couldn't and and because

it was because of I didn't know where to start

I didn't know what to read I didn't know who

to talk to about it because apparently all my

friends are assholes and things and what I was

I mean I mean, shit, I was one of those kids,

and a couple of us did this, right? You get home

off the bus, you run home from school, and you

flip on the TV, and you watch half -hour Power

Rangers, and then you go outside and play. Like

that was me and a bunch of my friends, right?

Nerdy as that sounds, that was a part of our

daily routine. We watched Power Rangers, we got

off the bus, ran home, watched Power Rangers,

and then went outside to, I don't know, shoe

hoops, kick a ball, play main hunt, do whatever

the fuck we normally do as kids. But they weren't

reading comics, right? They were mostly shows,

video games, type stuff, but never got into that.

So right in the beginning is when I got out of

it. It wasn't really until, you know, Invincible

came out on Amazon Prime and me kind of realizing

and like, holy shit, like, this is cool. And

then, holy shit, yeah, comics again. And then

with my daughter and her struggling to kind of

feed on her own and kind of finding that and

working with that. and that's become kind of

a thing with us now is it's really cool to be

able to share that with you know something like

that with with you know your your kids and and

we talk about that type of stuff so that it's

been a cool journey for me there um and then

get and then just getting back into it but like

the whole And the whole way like I kind of got

tied in with the radiant black podcast was and

learning about radiant black was on an invincible

podcast when Kyle was on there and he was like,

Oh, I got this thing called brilliant black.

And I was like, that sounds fucking cool. And

I immediately added it, you know, my comics ology

pull list, because that's where I started pulling

it. And I started collecting until probably about

issue six or seven, where I was behind behind

the times for a lot of this stuff. But I'll tell

you what, I've got some I've got some pretty

fucking bangers on my wall right now. Oh, yeah

Like like I've got I've got the helmet foil I've

got the the Finch helmet the Finch variant in

oil signed by Marcella Costa Wow, I've got the

150 foil on my wall of supermassive, which I

also have Copies coming signed to me. I have

All three retros, Rogue Sun, Radiant Black, the

first one and Radiant Black 3 on my wall. I have

the first six of the Connecting Cover variants

with Kyle's signed. I've got a 9 .8 of the Finch

variant on my wall. I've got the one in 50 of

Rogue Sun, I've got the one in 25. I've got a

bunch of bankers on my wall that I'm really proud

of. So I was able to hop in a little late but

still find kind of find the deals to get absolutely

right price because yeah, like some of these

things are Very specs and expensive now very

expensive Which is one of the reasons why I didn't

ask question 18, which is what is the most money

you spent on a comic or a comic item? Not as

bad as you think so So the most expensive comic

I have on my wall that I that I spent on so is

the Is the one and fifty helmet of number one

foil copy? I think I paid I paid a hundred and

five shipped from Europe, which isn't terrible

That's not terrible But like like like for example

that one in the one and twenty five finch foil

variant with Marcella Casa signature on it and

I got it for 75 bucks on eBay. I feel like I

stole that because Marcella has not. Come to

the states and signed very many copies and in

talking with the scored in the discord server

There's like, you know, there's almost 300 people

and at the scored server There's only one other

person that has a signed copy of Marcella and

he like he signed it I think he might have signed

maybe a hundred copies or less at a local comic

shop in Brazil because he hasn't gone to the

states and he's got no intentions of coming anytime

soon because of the pandemic and stuff from what

I hear so like that I'm really proud of And then

if you if you got early bird pricing on the on

the foils of supermassive Like Kyle was nice

enough to drop those For his newsletter folks

and people that supported him like you try to

go to get the signed copy of the three -person

signed copy of the foil now on on comic sketch

artists Last I saw the price was 300 bucks I

didn't spend $300 on it. I didn't even spend

a third of that. The initial drop of the price

was good. Yeah, absolutely. But anyways, $105

for that helmet foil was the most that I've spent

on a single item. And again, we live in a world

now where creators of comics and anything, honestly,

television shows, cartoons, whatever, as long

as we act like human beings to each other you

know everybody can interact especially with comics

if you want to support if you want to and you

are able to support your creators that you like

you know jumping in on the ground like like i

said i i I think I told Bash this on his episode

of the podcast of his origins, but if he and

the other Matt didn't come up with, I was actually,

Radiant Black is so special to me that even just

before, you know, after reading the first issue,

I was literally going to splinter off and do

my own Radiant Black podcast. And I was going

to call it the Radiant Black podcast because

I was literally two weeks ahead of them. If you

look at episode, I forget which episode number

it is, but if you look at Radiant Black number

one under the pull -wag, it's literally two weeks

before they started. And I'm not saying this

to toot my own horn or anything, but I'm just

like, You know the timing of everything and but

my point is like like I've said already We can

all be in on the ground floor or we can be someone

like you who caught it late and go back like

me Nightwing it wasn't until death of the family

that I actively sought out Nightwing because

they were like, oh my god Snyder. Oh my god this

oh my god that issue 13 of Batman the Joker the

this the that So basically, I read issue 15 of

Nightwing before I read any other Nightwing at

the time when I was still getting print comics.

And then I immediately went back to my local

comic shop at the time in Louisville, Kentucky,

the great escape, where I said, okay, I need

Nightwing numbers one through 14 or I need whatever

trades collect those or whatever so I can catch

it. And I went back and I caught up. You know,

so comics is for everybody creators and fans

alike and we can all That's the number one message

I have is that we can all be Friends we all don't

like there are no even though I'm sure there

are plenty of super villains in comics Twitter

Just ignore those people folks. Just find the

good ones. Okay, so not counting radiant black

not counting invincible Not counting Oblivion's

song. What else have you mentioned already? Rogue

Son. Walking Dead. Walking Dead. OK, so not counting

those five, what are you reading right now and

what do you think our listeners should check

out? So recommendations from you to the listeners.

So I haven't said this one, but I like the run.

Kyle's Darkhawk run. Mm -hmm the five the five

series run. Yeah, that is totally worth it I

I wish that he did more than five. Um, just based

off the origin story, you know And and and the

way that it the way that it's kind of new and

I didn't even know this about so I I went into

I went into that run Knowing nothing about Darcock

and I was like, well fuck it. Kyle's writing

it I like everything else that he writes so far

Why the hell not? You know, it's something that

I could potentially get in at the ground level

like I did with Radiant Black. And so that one

is definitely really cool, but I didn't realize

that, you know, I think I was listening to an

interview that Kyle did with, forgot who, but

I didn't realize that Dark Hawk, the powers,

when you like hold the crystal or whatever the

hell it is, like you get transformed to another

dimension. And I guess that he was talking about

that a little bit and like your body, your connection

is still there, but your body is actually in

another dimension. And I was like, fuck, that

would have been really cool to explore and have

him like continue to write it and talk about

it. And it just, you know, it was a five issue

run. And I kind of stopped, I don't know what

happened after the five issues. I don't know

if they're still doing. Dark hawk or whatever

but or how that storyline is picking up, but

I'd be interested in learning more about it.

Um, I thought that was uh Was pretty good so

I actually one thing that I like that the invincible

cast is doing right now is is they're doing other

creator books by By Kirkman so They did what

the last one they did was super dinosaur and

that was really fun read with with my daughter

It's more of a kids book. It's pretty decent.

I Wouldn't probably recommend it for probably

most everybody else. But if you have a kid, it's

a fun read It's very kiddy and it's something

really good to read with your kids. But the other

thing haunt I was which is like kind of a spawn

I think now spawn takes it over I think there

was a recent variant of of spawn with hot on

the front of the front cover I forgot what number

it was but But the first volume was pretty good

Read through that because you know the invincible

cast recommended it and or was Getting people

to read it and then they kind of did a review

on it So those are a couple more the latest moon

night run is fucking awesome Highly recommend

that So I yeah those those are some but uh And

then the one thing I was gonna recommend for

you to check out if you haven't already it's

done by Snyder and Higgins together However,

I feel it's more of a Higgins thing. I hear more

of Kyle's style in the writing than I do Scott's

and it is Batman, Gates of Gotham, because it

is Dick as Batman. And if you haven't read it

yet, it's so good. It's basically the history

of Gotham City. It's basically what the Gotham

television show should have been, but in comic

form. Wow, that's awesome. You said you like

you said you like Nightwing, right? So what's

your? What's your favorite Nightwing run that

I can jump into but after reading Kyle Higgins

is not see that's that's that's the problem.

I can't Recommend one to you yet because you're

already doing what I would recommend to you I

have not had a chance to catch up on the current

Run the Tom Taylor run or whomever is I believe

it's Tom Taylor. That's still writing Yeah, I

wait I think so long story short the last oh

Three four five years. I have been wanting to

do something on this podcast that I don't think

I will ever do 90 nights of night wing basically

three months publishing one podcast per day,

covering one trade per podcast of every single

Nightwing comic that has ever, as long as it's

in collected edition and not single issue, but

basically getting 90 nights of Nightwing done

and I don't think I will ever get it done. Because

I haven't organized it. I haven't looked it up.

I haven't bought the comics I you know, but like

that's how ambitious I am on certain things and

I just look at it I'm like That's That's a lot

of recording and editing and a pretty big undertaking

so yeah, so basically that's off to you yeah,

so basically that would have to be done over

the summer and then like You know mean 90 nights

that's that's three months I if I could because

originally it was gonna be 30 nights of Nightwing

for night hashtag Nightwing November because

and and yada yada in 2019 and then that never

happened and then I just my idea just got big

oh I've never actually gone and read The old

stuff like the Chuck Dixon stuff and things like

that. I've only read the Kyle Higgins run I've

only read certain things here and there since

that run and Yeah, so, I don't know. I don't

know if I'll ever do that but All right heroes

heroines anti heroes and heroines or villains

what archetypes are your go -to reads? It's I

mean, it's got to be heroes. There's just so

much story That's generally told with heroes

like you have villains and anti heroes and a

lot of times There's just they're never I don't

know if it's just the writing of what people

don't want to do but the backstory is told and

then The run doesn't continue a lot of times.

Yeah For especially villains like they never

spend more than what four or five issues on a

run? Maybe six maybe eight but like he have heroes

like Batman Superman, you know You know invincible

right? Yeah. Yeah, so exactly but but you can

look at invincible right like I Guess I can't

I can't You haven't read it yet, you're killing

me. I'm sitting there like, I don't wanna see

it. Dude, so I am old and I forget things a lot.

So anything you say about Invincible, it'll probably

just go over my head and I won't remember it

an hour from now, let alone three months from

now if I ever get into it. So go ahead and say

whatever you're gonna say about Invincible, it's

okay. So, I mean, you look at characters like

Omni -Man, because I'm sure you've watched the

show, right? You've at least watched the show.

Nope. Oh, Jesus! It's okay! All right, so Omni

-Man, right, in the very beginning is looked

at as a hero, and then he, you know, completely

hits the fan, and then everybody hates him. And

I'll say it like that. I don't want to give too

much away, but like... part of the story of Invincible

is seeing what happens to not only Mark as Invincible,

but Omni -Man, and how he tries to redeem himself

in ways and stuff like that. So, I mean, he could

be looked at as not necessarily a hero, but an

anti -hero, or however you want to call it. He's

kind of a villain, not a villain. It depends

on... depends on when in the run you're talking

about him, like, what is he doing? What is he

technically doing? So like, there's flavors of

that, which is kind of cool. And I kind of like

those characters too, which like have that have

have heroistic qualities, but like, at times

can be perceived as the bad guy, which is kind

of, I don't know if it's really an anti hero,

but it's kind of that in between that really

gray area. So Those characters are interesting

to me. And besides just the stereotypical, oh,

heroes. And I mean, Radiant Black can be perceived

as that too. Because Marshall doesn't know what

the fuck he's doing, let's be honest, and he's

kind of a dick, right? Nathan was really the

guy that deserved it. And so that's gonna be

interesting to see how that plays out in the

coming issues. Marks are gonna get powers back.

Is he gonna go rogue? Is he gonna be good? Is

he gonna be bad? Like there are all these questions

and theories and stuff that were we're spinning

in the discord server, right and and it that

is really So the funny story with the discord

server, right? When when when I first started

interacting on Twitter with you that's what radiant

black podcast There was like a tweet. I think

Kyle sent it out or somebody sent it out. I think

I don't know if Kyle was like What are kids interacting

with these days on chat? And I think I was talking

to bash or the rain black podcast and I was like,

Hey, we could spin up a discord server to chat.

And then all of a sudden we did it brought me

in. And then I've been, I've been there since

day one moderating it. And, and, and Kyle literally

joined like less than less than three months,

probably like a day or two. He immediately joined

right away. And we're like, Holy fuck. Like he's

like he's like hey guys and we saw his icon and

Kyle Higgins were like is this really you like

is like like like holy fuck is Kyle actually

in here and sure enough it was him and you know

he's brought in all the other creators so you

know being able to spin theories trying to figure

out okay what they're doing is fun okay it's

funny you say spitting theories and characters

because And I will say this in my eventual whenever

my ladder whenever my rung on the on the radiant

roster ladder ends up happening I will say this

to them on radiant black podcast When I first

started reading the comic I clearly felt that

Nathan was Dante and Marshall was Randall Literally

The first issue, Nathan went to college and went

to all this stuff and ended up in all this debt,

essentially a failure, yada, yada, yada, has

to move home. I mean, the only thing missing

in Radiant Black number one is a image of Nathan

waking up in his closet answering the phone.

And then Marshall is so So tongue -in -cheek

and so on the nose with what his opinions are

and what you know You know in those first couple

issues and I'm like, that's Dante and Randall

hands down It's not a Hicks and Randall Graves

from Kevin Smith's clerks Yep You want to know

what's crazy is that I saw like not to go completely

sidebar about for a second, but like Guess Kyle's

of Kyle's getting surgery on his knee and Kevin

him and Kevin Smith interact at times on Twitter

and Kevin was like posted Oh doing this hike

out in California Type of thing and Kyle responds

back. I got to do that before my knee surgery

and it's just interesting. I bet you Now that

you say that even more so I bet you like Kyle

you know has It draws from some of Kevin's stuff.

Some people love Kevin's stuff, some people hate

it, some people are in between. I think it's

fun. I listen to his podcasts. He's got him and

Mark Bernard have some good takes and some good

thoughts. They're a fun listen. I like 90s, early

2000s Kevin Smith. Decade or so I haven't been

as big of a fan of what he's doing. But hey,

you know what? That's my problem. Not his and

that's okay All right What is one item from a

comic book you'd love to have in the real world?

Oh man I guess I should change this question

for you. Which radiant do you want? Yeah, it'd

be dope as fuck to have a radiant. Honestly,

and here's where I think in listening to Bash's

origins where he was talking about like he was

huge into physics and stuff and was majoring

in that in college for a while. Funny story and

this is might be why bash and I get along pretty

well is I majored in physics and math also So

like we have that connection, which is really

cool. So this black hole cosmic shit That is

like hyper intriguing to me on so many different

levels So yeah, it'd be it would be fucking cool

to have a radiant and and I would you know I

want I would want the main one because I think

You know what happens like yeah like he freaking

you know he's a big mech that comes out of his

body that he can control like fuck wouldn't that

like like yeah to my power rangers thing right

yeah power rangers i we used to when we were

kids man we used to pretend that that we were

the power rangers and and and shit like that

and controlling like the you know the zords like

fuck i want that and not only that but like having

Black's power, he could fly. So that goes and

checks that box. He is a power of gravity. He

has a freaking big mech. What more could you

want? Granted, teleporting pink does, but I'm

sure there's gonna be aspects where, obviously,

the whole comic is based off of Radiant Black,

but yeah, it'd be dope to have a Radiant. Yeah,

the thing of this, it's just... Yeah, you're

right having the radiant black power would probably

be the number one choice for everybody because

as you said flying gravity blah blah blah I Wish

and I'm sure they will get there after all this

is only the beginning of year two of radiant

black I Can't wait to see the future where radiant

pinks powers are more. I don't want to say controlled

She's more in control of them because what we've

seen so far up to issue 12 is It takes a lot

out of her and she doesn't feel like She has

control over them and these portals just driving

the portal dropped them in space It dropped two

of them in Russia dropped the other two and God

knows where else You know, it dropped all of

them in in Japan for crap sake Yeah, so I mean,

yeah, as much as I would love the whole teleporting

thing, you have to be able to have some sort

of control with that. And, you know, it is what

it is, but yeah. All right. Here's something

interesting, just piggyback off that for a quick

second before you jump. Issue 18, right, is gonna,

we already know it's gonna be about yellow. It's

going to be a standalone about yellow there every

six you're doing Yeah, essentially doing something

like an origin ish story and seven is going to

be about yellow yellow is in Yellow was sorry

18. Yeah It's gonna be about yellow sorry, I'll

correct myself there but Yellow was in pinks

origin. So there's there's no way pinks not gonna

be in yellows origin Yeah, right and and I want

to see if there's interplay and maybe like With

Wendell, he's kind of like, he's like the dad

of the group, but I feel like he's going to teach

Pink a little bit more. And maybe that, that

whole story is told in the timeline, not necessarily,

you know, kind of looking backwards in time a

bit. And maybe we get kind of the Wendell, the

professor moment, or, you know, kind of like,

you know, Professor Xavier trying to teach, trying

to teach the other mutants how to, how to use

their powers right. Maybe Wendell can help calm

her or help her focus. because she seems all

over the place with her streaming stuff and her

she doesn't know what the fuck she wants to do

with their life, you know, typical, you know,

kid that, you know, just still trying to figure

shit out. Yeah. So I could see that happening.

And maybe we learn more that. I don't know. I

mean, I don't know how Kyle's going to run it.

I don't know how he's going to work it as far

as the story for issue 18. But from what you're

saying what I would like to see is The past before

we meet yellow and pink So issue 12 before we

before she even goes into the store to say hey,

I need this fixed before that So to get his origin

and how he like even if it's a couple weeks before

it doesn't have to be like I don't need radiant

yellows, you know 10 year old journey as a kid,

because that's not when the radiant found him.

It's a few weeks or a few days or whatever. So

if issue 18, let's just say the first few pages

of it are when he found it and maybe you even

do a little bit of backstory on him of how his

family life is as obviously have been done in

issue six and issue 12 and whatever. But the

rest of it should be the future. Even though

we didn't see too much with him in pink, but

maybe his origin issue is going to be Adventures

with them before they I don't know. I'm just

You know, whatever but I don't know but yeah,

yeah good Here's the other thing I think about

we know that yellow has some sort of time Yeah,

right past, future, going forward, going back.

You try, you start to get into the physics of

things and you talk about, you know, getting

closer to the speed of light and ship slows down

and goes faster and going through event horizons

and all that crap. Like yellow is going to be

an integral part in, in the whole time travel

or going from place to place. I, I feel it, you

know, that's kind of just my thought. But like,

I bet like a part of yellow's story we get is

like having him seeing things into the future

and then doing them and then realizing like he

can kind of see into the future about what's

going to happen. And that's part of the reason

why he brought pink, you know, to get that radiant.

You know, there was something that happened where

he must have seen a vision. And I bet you we're

going to see glimpses of things into the further

into the future that we haven't even seen yet

in the actual book. So that that also intrigues

me. Yeah. I could clearly see in any future issue

that is not his origin, I could really see Marshall

just saying, why can't we just get in a DeLorean?

Okay, so if you could create any comic storyline,

what would you want to create and what characters

would you want to create it with? So basically

any company gives you the keys keys to the kingdom.

What would you want to do? Oh my god, I am I

That's a I I love listening and enjoying and

reading the content I I yeah, I Can do math and

I can do do that type of stuff and I can code

but when it comes to like creating things. You

asked me to draw something, it's a stick figure.

You asked me to tell a story. It has to be about

something that I've already gone through or done.

My hats off are to the whole creative team in

general with respect to all comics that allow

me to read and enjoy things. I couldn't, yeah,

I couldn't even do it. you know i would probably

take you know powers that i like of certain things

like i love doctor strange's powers and you know

sorcery and mystical arts stuff and you know

i love that concept and then the whole concept

of the cosmos with with radiant black stuff so

i probably try to merge meld those things together

to try to tell some type of crazy -ass story

that you know involves time travel altered alternate

dimensions has a sci -fi aspect to it but like

that would probably be the best that I could,

you know what I mean? I don't want to say I don't

have a creative bone in my body, but that's not

my go -to, I guess, with that type of stuff.

Yeah, you are the person that likes to consume

the content and it immerses yourself in it. buys

every single print you possibly can I don't know

who has more variants you or bash probably bash

because he's just crazy I swear the guy oh he

does I don't know what he hands down does I don't

know what kind of job he has that you know whatever

but like the dude just like variant variant variant

I'm getting five copies of this variant I'm like

why do you need five copies of this variant Yeah,

he has a help. He's actually helped, honestly,

and here's another reason why, like, not to plug

the Discord server and just the comic book community,

but, like, because of those things, it's allowed

me to make calculated decisions where I'm not

getting screwed over and learning, right? Because

when I first got back into comics, and this kind

of, I guess, is part of my origin story type

of thing where... I didn't know what the fuck

a variant was. What was a 9 .8 versus a 10? Wait,

what a 1 in 25 versus a 1 in 50? And it's crazy

because I thought, I was like, man, I don't know

what the fuck, A, B, C, D, what does this cover?

What's this mean and how does all that fit together?

And I'm not the only one. There are people in

the Discord server that are like, hey, what's

this 1 in 25? What's this 1 in 50? And we're

answering it. Because I remember when the Discord

server first came up, I was asking those questions.

Luckily, I'm a moderator. We have our own sub

channel where I would talk to them directly instead

of. money, you know, putting it in the general,

but people talk in the general and everybody

is willing to help everybody else out. And I've

learned a shit ton from everybody. And I love

it. I like, I, I'm just, I just want to continue

to learn about there. Cause there's, you know,

collecting comics is complicated. It's not, it's

not easy to jump in and figure shit out. Cause

you're more than likely going to spend a shit

ton of money. Like you look on eBay right now

and, and there are some over exacerbated prices

of Of radiant black and rogue son like people

are trying people are fucking stupid. They're

not stupid They're trying to they're trying to

make a shit ton of money there. There are comics

right now out there that are listed 12 times

too high like like the rogue son, for example,

the the retro that just came out, right? I got

that on pre -order $15 it was 18 or 20 bucks

shipped right which is pricey But it's it was

a it's a limited run the retro is in general

run run high and it's already on eBay for 90

bucks So yeah, it's crazy. But but like so like

not knowing what and not being a part of the

community that you know, like we have you know,

we have a whole Exclusive section. So when a

new exclusives come out, we'll post it and we'll

put their original cover price Yeah, so you'd

be like knowing how much they cost and knowing

kind of seeing how much they're sold for in the

market Like you got to look at that stuff to

not get screwed over but yeah bash bash doesn't

like the exclusive variants but he likes the

regular like he'll like yeah he likes the regular

covers abc the ratios yeah like i kind of i'm

not even close to where he is like i don't have

all like so i i get everything on comixology

right so i get cover on comixology i don't unless

i like the cover i'm not going to get it so like

a lot of my covers are the ratio covers I have

some exclusives that I really like like there's

a couple of them that I like there's one of red

There's one like a comic solid a comic kingdom

exclusive that I like but a lot of them are the

ratios or For the retros or or the foil like

the special ones. Yeah But yeah, he has what

he he's bananas ABC ABC ratio. Yeah, it's nuts.

He's nuts. I I don't under I love the guy But

I don't understand. I just don't. And my first

thought is, where are you going to put all of

that? This is why I got them digital. And the

other reason why I started digital, too. You

ready for this? I was like, all right, well,

I'm getting back into comics. I'm going to like.

And the nice thing about it is like I'm the one

that does the finances my wife doesn't so like

if something hits the credit card like she's

not the wiser so like But like when stuff starts

to come in physically and like boy did I have

to have a conversation with her when I started

putting when I Started putting fucking comics

on the wall. Like I put on the black box on the

wall. She's like she's like, okay What are you

doing? I was like, well, it's my office and I

want you know, cuz I work from home I want I

want to look at something that I'm that I'm that

that That's I like so I I I could justify it

and then then the poster comes up and the comics

start going up and she's like Do I even want

to know how much you're spending right now on

this type of stuff? I was like, no, no, don't

worry about it. Just like like it's it's minor

type of thing but like that's why I started collecting

digitally because when I when I was going through

because She couldn't physically see stuff coming

in. Now she's starting to see shit come in. And

every now and again, sometimes I'll have to sneak

the comics upstairs and just hang them on the

wall. And of course, my daughter sees them, because

she always goes in and looks at my collection.

She's like, Daddy, you got this new one. And

I was like, shut up, shut up, shut up. You're

going to get me in trouble with mommy. And then

she'll finally realize it and see it. But that

was the reason why I went with digital first,

because I could do it behind the scenes and read

it and be happy about it and be able to reread

it and not have to mess it up. And none was the

wiser. No one knew what's going on, you know.

Yeah, that's yeah. You know, it's just a crazy,

crazy thing. And I would love to be able to,

you know, do a lot of the stuff. Oh, Comic Vine,

what is wrong with you people? Sorry, I'm going

through all the radiant black issues on comic

line because they list Comic vine is like kind

of like comic DB or whatever like whatever but

wow, really? God they are so They used to list

all like most comic series they will show if

they have them available They will show all the

variant covers and they started out great up

until about Issue nine of radiant black and then

they just have either just the one cover or they

might have a panel or my issue ten It's like

here's the main cover and that's all you get

and I'm like, are you kidding me? Well, I mean

you see you later, but it is what it is. It's

crazy You can go to the radiant black website.

They have ABC all those but they don't have the

exclusives. I mean There's 20 exclusives alone

for supermassive. There's 20 for Rogue Son, that

are exclusive covers, not including the ratios.

It's hard to keep track of. Not everybody has

them. That's why we started the Exclusives channel,

for people to post when stuff's coming out, before

stuff comes out, and get a jump on it. What is

the one piece of comics advice you would give

the comics fandom? Well, the easiest one is is

find a great community to interact with that

where people are willing to teach other people

and I mean The part you share the love, right?

So that's again why I love the community and

the people that I interact with because I learned

so much from everybody and I'm not just one that

learns like people ask questions I'll answer

them right that based off of my experience. You

gotta gotta continue to to interact with people

and bring people up to the same level as what

you are, because I was once there, right? I love

to teach. And that's just another avenue for

me to do it. To help new people that are getting

into it or people that are coming into the server

that don't know what's going on or want recommendations

of stuff that I read, I'll throw that out there.

It's finding that community to interact with

in a positive way is the most critical thing

that will not only Like nurture your love for

comics but keep it because if you don't have

people to interact with and talk about comics

with like It just it's gonna die in the vine

It's gonna sizzle like yeah right in the beginning

when I tried to pick it up and I had no one to

talk about I was like, well this sucks And I

moved on and here I am, you know back Jesus like

20 something years later. I don't even know it

was such a long time And now here I am, the old

guy in the server. Not really the old guy, but

you know what I mean. Oh boy. I'm not going to

say that you're the Wendel of the radiant black

discord, but. Well, hey, you know, I guess I

guess that's quasi fitting, because I am the

technical one in the server. There you go. There

you go. So I guess I guess I'm the Wendel as

much as I, you know. That's pretty funny. Maybe

I should change my, I'm going to have to change

my hair. It's already yellow now. Oh God. All

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