Ryan Drost on Stealth Hammer #2 and the New Kickstarter Campaign

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Hello and welcome to The Pull Bag. This is episode

431. I'm of course TFJ and Mike, one of your

hosts and coming back once again is that host

with the most, Ryan Drost from Star Joe's. Hello

sir. Hello, thanks for having me back. I'm sorry.

I'm not worthy. We gave it a bad review. I'm

sorry. I'm sorry. We're not worthy. We're not

worthy. You gave it an honest review. You gave

your thoughts and your opinions. I understood

and agreed with some of them, and I disagreed

with other ones, and that's okay. That's allowed.

I didn't realize, and obviously, I'm going to

have to have Amy on for the second one just to

see the improvements, but literally, I'm... Not

just because you and I are friends but because

you know this I'd like I'd like to consider the

podcasting community wholly friendly on a whole

but I know it's not there are Whatever and I'm

just like yeah. Yeah, and I'm like How do I react

to her not? really like yes, I had a few quibbles,

but like It is what it is and like I said, I'd

rather have some honest feedback Yeah, and and

grow from that. That's how you do grow I've had

her and I've had communications because I much

like I reached out to you I reached out to her

and was just like we bounced off of each other

and stuff like that and I was just like But uh,

but no, it was totally fine. Like I said, you

guys gave your your honest thoughts I was mowing

the lawn when I did it and I'm just like I was

like, okay, we're just gonna keep going. We'll

see what else is said. And like you said, it

is what it is. But I definitely know there's

some in like certain things that you guys pointed

out. There's some things I'm like, yeah, that's

coming. I think you had questions about it. I

was like, okay. Yeah, I think like, like, we

kind of made it a running joke because you turned

yourself into a running joke. But like, Holy

crap, is Kyle dead? What happened to Kyle? Where

did he go? Like, you know, all of that. I will

say that that is the question I got the most

from most people reading the issue, is they want

to know what happened to Kyle. And I will tell

you with this second issue, you're going to be

asking me what happened to another character.

Oh, no. Did you kill Grandpa? I didn't kill Grandpa.

You're going to wonder about the safety of another

character, let's put it that way. They're in

danger. As long as it isn't the evil uncle, you

know, he makes it he comes he makes an appearance

back in this issue But he he it's a much smaller

role in this issue. So And I think the other

thing is and you know, you and I have talked

at length So it's not like I can't be honest

with you at the time when you were first starting

this This is the first time you'd ever done it

you were going through artist changes and things

like that and I think what we had said in the

episode was Oh, there's this first story. And

then there's this other story, which kind of

looks like where it's supposed to go. Yeah. You

know, but now that you're on the path that you're

on, now that you're here now and doing the new

Kickstarter. So what is going on with Stealth

Hammer number two that you can tell us? Yeah,

I can tell you quite a bit. There's not too many

secrets. So one of the things I made, and I did

this on a lot of podcasts that I appeared on.

I'm sorry, you weren't the only podcast I showed

up on to promote it. I'm surprised you even reached

out to me at all, honestly. Oh, no, absolutely.

No, so the mistake that I think I made in the

first one, and I definitely heard it when you

guys were talking about the first issue, was

I talked about how there's a lot of references

to pop culture things and and there were there

were some but Not to the level that you guys

were finding stuff Because it's like you're like,

well, maybe it's this and maybe that I'm like,

nope that that's reaching that's not Then that's

you know, that's fine, but that wasn't something

I was going for So there are pop culture references,

of course, but not not meant to be at the detriment

of the story. Just kind of little things like,

oh, I like this. This is the type of thing I

would want to put in there. So I think the most

important thing outside of just the story itself

that I always want people to keep in the back

of their mind is that everything in the issue

is there for a reason. So if you see the name

of something or a character mentions something,

those things are are not At little accidents

they like so to give you an example in the first

issue. There's the name of the dojo My artist

Joel reached out to me. He's like, what do you

want the name of the dojo to be? and I did a

lot of research and I thought about stories and

where I want the story to go and everything else

and that's where I got then I came up with the

name of Kodama studio and Kodama is a Japanese

mythical being so that's gonna play a factor

in a future story down the line and I wanted

some I wanted I want stuff like that to these

little Easter eggs in there to be in there so

that when when I do get to those stories down

the line someone can be like holy crap that was

in the first issue or oh my god that was in the

second issue so we we are planting little Easter

eggs throughout And to give you an example, also

to relate right from issue one to issue two.

In issue one, the very first page is her bedroom.

You see tons of stuff in her bedroom. There is

stories behind virtually everything you see in

there. There is an item in her bedroom that you

will. recognized on the cover of issue two. So

there is a character holding something that you

then you if you go back to issue one, you will

see it hanging up in her room and there's reasons

for that. So you also see in her room in the

one little corner a busted up purple robotic

looking thing. That is the character Watts, which

is a robot who we will be introduced to in the

second issue. So there's things like that that

are always there with intention. In issue two,

we're going to learn the name of the town because

we're going to be visiting a police station at

one point in issue two. And so, of course, it's

not just going to be like police station. It's

the name of the town's police headquarters or

police station. That name of the town. Plays

a role into one of the characters down the line

that stealth hammer all inter interact with there's

there's reasons for everything in there and that's

I think that's the biggest thing I want people

to understand is I call it Claremontian writing

Claremont is that I'm playing Easter eggs all

along for future stories so that when I get down

the line I can be like, okay now it's time to

tell this story and you can trace it back to

where I first started seeding those things. We're

gonna be putting something in the second issue,

just a little thing. It's gonna be kinda in the

background, but still kinda noticeable. That

is a whole new enemy that is planned for way

far, not way far in the future, but it's planned

for in the future. But you're gonna get a little

hint of that, like, okay. What's that doing there?

And is that tied into this character or these

characters and stuff like that? So it's already

having you ask questions. And then we're going

to answer those questions as we go. So the big

thing for issue two is issue one was all about

her origin. And yes, we went fast and furious

with the first issue. We wanted to get her out

there. We wanted her to get her powers. We wanted

her to fight. I have no real family moments in

the first issue. I'm sorry there there was no

You know barbecues at the end the house didn't

get blown up and and and and Toretto didn't steal

VCRs or DVD players or whatever, right? So we

were going fast and furious at the first issue

She is a high energy. She is a high and she is

a very positive character And that's where we

want to start her from She I mean she grew up

with a world -renowned scientist for a dad and

her mom's like this international Fashion, you

know interior designer and she's going to college.

She's got a boyfriend like life is just good

for her So, of course, she's gonna be this positive

like never give up personality now we get to

kind of as time goes on we get to kind of deconstruct

that and find out and she starts learning that

she's in this bigger world and she's got some

challenges and everything else and She's still

gonna have always that never give up attitude,

but she's gonna have that challenged with her,

of course. But we wanted to establish that earlier.

Now this second issue, like now she's got her

powers. Yes, we haven't explored all of her powers

yet, but we've witnessed some of them. And so

we got the origin out of the way in that first

issue. This second issue is going to focus on

her legacy. So she's gonna learn about her family.

She's gonna learn about why she's got these powers

and where they came from and everything else.

And we have a lot more, we slow down more in

this issue. So we have a lot more character moments.

So some of the things that you guys talked about

with the first issue, like her with her boyfriend

and things like that, we get more... Interaction

with her and her boyfriend in this issue. Oh,

so he is alive. He's not dead. He's alive He's

alive It's like one like literally seriously

just from what I remember because I haven't looked

at it since we did the review And just from what

I remember he was on one page and then he was

gone and never spoken of again Well, you go back

to the issue. There is a line at the end where

she does find out that Kyle's gonna be okay But

it's very easy to evidently it's very easy for

people to overlook because again I that was the

question I got from a lot of people because of

course comments is a very visual thing. So the

vision the visual side of him being hit by the

door and sitting in like this hospital bed and

everything else is the last thing mentally that

people remember is that visual aspect. They don't

remember the line at the end where she finds

out from her dad that Kyle's okay. So we will

be showing that in this issue, that he is okay,

although he does question whether he is actually

okay because that's when Ari the elf shows up.

Oh no! So he obviously questions if his head

is actually still OK or not. And so we have some

really fun comedic moments with that. I would

actually write something and read it back and

then laugh. And I'm like, OK, if I'm laughing

at my own stuff, then I think we're doing a pretty

good job. So yeah, so we get introduced to Ari

the elf. He has a lot bigger part in this issue.

He only briefly appeared in the first issue.

He goes into the legacy stuff with her. We do

get introduced to a new villain. We don't see

him for very long, but we do get introduced to

him right from the beginning. And so that's going

to be proved to be very interesting as well.

And I get to I get to delve a little bit more

with some of the things that we already established.

So in the first issue, we got to see those, you

know, men in black type agents. you get to see

them again in this issue. And I actually get

to give one of them, I get to play with one of

them a bit more and give them more of like a

personality and everything else. So you get to

kind of get to know these characters a bit more.

So like I said, this issue is a lot more character

driven. And then there's things like, just since

you guys talked about it, like there's, to give

you an example of something that you guys questioned

and everything. You know, you guys were questioning

like, well, why wasn't her dad at home? You know,

it's a big day. She's bringing the boyfriend

home and everything else. I will say that that

is not explained in this second issue, but it's

definitely going to be explained in the third

issue. So the third issue is all about Ari's

adventure to come and be part of this bigger

adventure. So he has crossovers with some of

the things that we've read in issue one and issue

two. So that's gonna be fun in issue three. I

know what I'm gonna be doing, but it's gonna

fit into all the events we just read in the first

two issues. So that'll be fun when we get to

do that. But yeah, issue two, like I said, it's

focused on establishing that legacy of these

characters. It's to give us more of those character

moments, both emotional as well as comedic. So

we have some fun with that. We get to introduce,

like I said, get to introduce Watts, we get to

introduce a new villain, we get to introduce

the labites, which were on the cover of the first

issue. And really, we never saw them outside

of that. And the labites are these little robotic

guys that they remind me of batteries not included.

They just kind of they float around, they do

the work, they help Dr. Everett do stuff in the

lab and everything else. And they're the ones

that will be when we first see them in this issue,

they'll be repairing the lab. that had blown

up in the first issue. And then we get and we

get to see them work with Jamie to help repair

Watts, because again, Watts was damaged in the

on the first page sitting in her room. So we

have to fix Watts in order for Watts to be a

factor. So so they said there's some cool introductions,

a lot of cool character moments. And then we

have a final page that will final two pages with

the final. The second to last page is the page

that's going to make everyone wonder about the

safety of another character. And then the final

page is going to be one of those things where

it's the goddess, Aurora, and she's waiting for

Jamie to arrive. And we get to get this really

cool, epic -looking shot of her and the council

and other elves and stuff like that watching

Jamie's arrival. So I think it ends in a nice

place. It ends in a bit of a cliffhanger, of

course. But that's because we want you to come

back again. But yeah, it's a lot of fun. And

what you see on the cover, which will be on the

Kickstarter page, what you see on the cover for

issue two is hints of things to come. And there

are some of that in the issue. to kind of show

her legacy. So we see a lot of characters on

the front of issue two. And those are all part

of her family lineage and part of that legacy.

So. Very cool. Very cool. Awesome. All right.

So you said her uncle is going to play less of

a role this time around. Yeah. How much less

of a role is he going to be on like one panel

and then poof, gone. No, so last we saw him he

was he was arrested Yeah, we have to get him

out of jail so oh So we're gonna show how he

gets out of jail and For half a second. I feel

like Kyle is gonna come back dressed as Wentworth

Miller's character from prison break and be like,

oh here we go. We gotta break the evil uncle

out of prison great or Maybe he'll come dressed

as Captain Cold. I don't know. I will say that

a little less Prison Break, a little bit more

Terminator 2. Oh, no. Plays a factor. Oh, no.

Just please no more red, yellow, and whatever

color cars. No, it's a giant yellow black and

yellow Camaro like if you're really gonna do

that get the new design from the Bumblebee SUV

or whatever the hell is gonna be in this new

movie rise of the beasts. No Yeah, no when I'm

saying Terminator 2 I'm referring more to the

liquid metal Type of thing so there is the character

the one agent that we saw We saw the two agents

in the first issue. They both are not human.

They look human. They're both not human and one

of them is named grub after and one of them named

Denise and Grubb is my friend Eric Grubb who

paid on the Kickstarter to be in the issue I

and then the other one is I can't remember her

first name But her last name was a niece and

I thought a niece and grub sound like really

cool non -human names So that's their names.

Those agents' names are Anise and Grubb, but

neither one are human. And in this issue, we

find out what Anise's abilities are. We don't

find out what Grubb's are just yet. We will find

out his in issue four. But Anise, we definitely

find out she's a shape changer. So she can make

herself look like other people in other things.

That's how she helps get the doctor out of prison.

So we see him for that amount of time and then

we will see him getting driven off to go see

the big bad that we get introduced to in the

first couple pages and then we kind of leave

that off where it is for a later time. So he's

not in it much but we see him get out of jail

basically. Very cool. Very cool Now you you have

said that Joel Jackson is still on the art for

this, correct? Yes, correct And Ross Hughes has

retired. So who are you bringing in on the coloring?

I don't remember Yeah, I am very excited about

this. So, um, so Ross did an amazing job Yeah,

and he's been professional in the business for

a long time I was very blessed to have him on

this and he could not have been better to work

with him He was just absolutely amazing But yeah,

he retired from doing full issue series. So he'll

still do like a cover or something like small

little projects, but he's not doing series full

issues anymore. So I reached out to a lot of

colorists, ones that I thought could do the job

and I was a fan of their work. One that I did

not reach out to until after. Having a lot of

people saying I love this. This looks awesome.

However, I can't fit it into my schedule I reached

out to a very well -known colorist named Chris

Sotomayor He this guy is this is what he does

for a living so a lot of colorists Don't make

enough. They they're they're getting a full -time

job. Plus they're doing coloring on the side

Coloring is Chris's full -time job. He's right

very let's look at it He has done Spiderman issues,

he's done X -Men issues, he's done Batman. In

fact, he just recently did Fear State Alpha,

Batman's Fear State Alpha issue for DC Comics.

So he's a big name in the industry. And I met

him years ago at a convention and he had done

work with one of my friends, Robert Atkins, who

did the variant cover for issue number one. I

don't know how well Chris has known me over these

years. I met him once or twice and that was kind

of it. We interacted a little bit, but I've been

friends with him on Facebook since then. I don't

know if he listens to my podcast. I don't know

how well he knows me, but he at least knows me

in a sense. I reached out to him and said, hey,

I'm looking for a colorist. Do you think you

could do this? I would love to do this. I can

I can fit it in with my stuff and Here's what

my rate is. Do you think you get close to that?

He's like, I don't want to break the bank for

you So can you get close to this amount? He knew

that you know, his his rate is typically fairly

high I got very close to it. And so he was like,

yep, we can do that. Let's go. Let's let's do

this. So Absolutely incredible colorist. I reached

out back out to Ross and let him know who I got

just to kind of keep them up to date I'm like,

hey Object and everything else because he gave

me a few names and everything so of people to

reach out to and I said here's who I got and

he goes Oh, yeah, Chris Chris will do an amazing

job for you and then one of the other colorists

that turned turned me down wanted to stay in

touch with me because he's like I would love

to see in touch because I would love to work

with you in the future if you'd be open to that

and I was like Yeah, I'm happy to stay in touch

and hopefully we can work together in the future

And so I reached back up to him and said, just

wanted to let you know, here's who I got. And

he goes, oh, you got an upgrade from anything

I would have done for you. I can't remember the

name of the colorist that said that, who I'm

in touch with, but he did coloring work for like

the Mega Man series for Archie Comics and some

Ghostbusters work and stuff like that for IDW.

So it was definitely somebody I thought could

do. this for me, but it just cracked me up that

he was like, oh yeah, that's an upgrade. So that

was very, I'm very excited to have Chris on board.

I've only gotten to see him do the cover art

so far, but obviously the cover art was enough

for me to be like, yeah, this looks amazing.

So this is amazing. Yeah. Yeah. And then I'm

very excited. Another kind of dream. Person work

on this is who I got for the variant cover for

this one And that's Chrissy Zulo. She I have

followed her career for quite a while and she

Just she has her own style like she has this

just this really cool style that she does it's

really hard to describe but It works for this

type of all ages thing and she had to give people

some background with her She's done a lot of

variant covers and things like that She does

mostly like cover work or just art prints and

things like that, but she had her her designs

turned into statues for DC collectibles Yeah,

she did a Supergirl Wonder Woman Batgirl and

Hawkgirl and they were all turned into statues

and I have the whole series. And yeah, she was

somebody I was like, she has a huge following.

She's got like 280 ,000 plus people that follow

her on Facebook. She's got like 80 some thousand

that follow her on Instagram, Twitter. So it's

just like, this is somebody whose work I have

admired for a while and getting her on this project

hopefully can draw some more eyes to the project.

So she just emailed me, I had emailed her and

asked her if she would be interested in it. And

she's like, I would love to do this. She goes,

but here's what my schedule's like. And she's

like, I'm really not gonna be available until

like after New York Comic Con. And I was like,

well, good news. I'm not launching until after

New York Comic Con. And I said, I don't need

anything for the actual launch if you're able

to even get me like pencil work or inked work.

by launch, that would be great. If you can't,

that's okay. We can reveal it during the campaign."

And she's like, yeah, I could totally do that.

And she told me what her rate was, and I was

like, I'm totally good with that. And yeah, got

her signed on. And as we know, New York Comic

Con's already happened. So after maybe three,

four days after New York Comic Con, I emailed

her and just said, hey, just wanted to touch

base, just to let you know, I hope New York Comic

Con went really well. And if you need anything

from me, let me know." And she emailed me back

and said, yeah, I needed a few days afterwards

to recover. Yeah, yeah. Totally understand that.

And she's like, I'll be getting to work on this.

What do you have in mind? And I just told her,

do what you want to do. Here's the characters.

Here's some character sheets and everything else.

If you need anything else from me, if you want

me to give you some guidance, I can come up with

ideas for you. But I'd rather you do what you

do. Because I know I'm gonna love it. So I always

want to give my artists as much freedom as possible

to do what they enjoy Because if they're enjoying

it, then I'm gonna get the best work out of them.

So So yeah, I'm super stoked because that's that

was like a dream get for me Like I had two people

on my list that I reached out to the first person

I didn't hear anything back from and I think

it's just a timing thing again It was kind of

short notice And then Chrissy was the next person

on my list. And Chrissy was like, yeah, let's

do this. And I've got people in mind for future

issues that I would love to have them do something.

But the second she emailed me back and said,

yeah, I can do this, I was dancing on Cloud 9.

I was just sick. I'm sure you were. Yeah. I was

like, oh my god. Because I always wanted something

drawn by her. And I almost did have something

drawn by her one time. And it was just again

a bad timing type situation and I let it fall

by the wayside and just never followed up with

it And so now it's like okay to have her draw

I've always wanted to have her draw something

for me and to have her draw my character That's

awesome. That's epic. So Yeah, that is very cool.

I know I've heard I mean don't get me wrong.

I know Chris is very very famous in the comic

book world and I know I've heard his name before

on other reviews we did so I'm just this whole

time you've been Talking about Chrissy. I'm trying

to look up Chris and I'm like where have I seen

his like I know what he's on Oh, yeah, you know,

I know what he's appeared in It's just I don't

think we've reviewed like he's got 20 appearances

in the Nightwing rebirth thing. Yeah, he's got

you know, you know, so It's not like he's you

know, you know and oh, yeah You know, so I mean

i'm but I know i'm like wait a minute i've heard

that name before where Because I swear i've seen

hit like i've reviewed something on this podcast

That had his name on it because I remember his

name. I'm like, oh am I gonna butcher this? Yeah,

no, you're no, you're totally right because I

uh He's been on so many things and like I said,

he's known in the comic community for sure and

uh, in fact, I don't remember what I was reading

but it was just like Just two days ago, I was

reading a comic and I saw his name was on there.

I was like, holy shit. Like, yeah, that's the

guy I'm going to be working with for a little

while. Like you're reading a comic and you're

like, I'm working with the guy that just did

this. Yeah. It's like, oh my God, this is amazing.

So yeah. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. And we will

have cover to cover art just like last time So

the back cover is also being done by somebody

who wanted to work on the first issue We just

didn't have room at that point by the time he

reached out and that is Scott Kruger Scott is

from Sarlacc Digest podcast Star Wars podcast

and they've been going strong for the last few

years and He's a very accomplished artist in

his own right and he's just getting Getting his

foot in the door into the comic world so he recently

did a variant cover for Star Wars Adventures

number one by IDW so very cool yeah so he asked

he reached out to me he's like hey I'd be willing

to do this if if you would like to have me do

something. And I was like, I don't have room

this time, but maybe in the next issue. And he's

like, absolutely. So then when issue two came

up, I was like, I need a back cover artist. And

Shannon Gallant was the one that did the, who

was a very well -known GI Joe artist, did the

back cover for issue one. So he's in good company

by, you know, I don't take the back cover as

a slight at all because That's amazing artwork,

too. In fact, it's untouched artwork, because

you don't have to put any words around it or

anything. So Scott's working on that, and he

sent me a little bit of artwork of what he's

done so far for that. And that looks incredible

as well. Very cool. Very cool. All right. So

the Kickstarter is going to be launching this

Saturday, folks. It is October 26. What's today?

No. So it will be October 23rd at 7 p .m. Eastern

Standard Time is when we launch. It will go till

November 21st, which is a Sunday at 10 p .m.

Eastern Standard Time. So we wanted to kind of

end on a Sunday rather than some random day during

the week. Yeah, you might want to end on the

14th or the 28th because the week of Sunday the

21st Thursday is Thanksgiving. That's why we're

ending before Thanksgiving. No one's going to

be thinking about this after Thanksgiving. But

we want to give it enough time. So that's why

if we ended it any shorter, we're not even going

30 days with it. So that wouldn't be good. So

yeah, we're definitely going to be doing a Almost

I believe it's almost 30 days if not maybe even

a little bit longer than 30 days by a day or

so But just timing wise we're like, you know,

it's so much easier to do a last push On a weekend

than it is to do it on a random Tuesday or something

But we said we've got some cool kickstart has

this thing now it's really awesome how they do

it so We're gonna have of course I'll mention

some of the rewards and everything on how we're

doing that but They also now have it where you

can have add -ons. So pick your rewards and then

when you go to checkout, you can also add other

things to your reward. And we really wanted to

make this customizable for people so they can

get what they want. So we of course have your

packages. So we have, you know, you can get issue

two, you can get the full package with issue.

plus the variant cover, plus some prints, plus

a new bookmark, and the prints and the bookmarks

are gonna all be new for this one, so we're not

just recycling the stuff from the first Kickstarter.

There'll be, you can get a copy of the script

that I wrote, and it's not just plain script,

it's script with commentary on the edges. So

I actually go back to the script and type up,

here's what we were going for for this, here's

where the idea for this came from. basically

for the script. Yeah, and so we have that. We're

going to have T shirts this time, which Joel

has done artwork for the T shirt, and it's going

to have like this monochrome box horizontal rectangle

with a bunch of the supporting characters and

then stealth hammers front and center. She's

breaking that. You know she's like. Separate

from that box. She's like stepping in front of

it and she's gonna she will be full color right

now We just have the black and white version

of that, but she will be full color with the

stealth hammer name on it It's gonna be very

It'll be very comic book II but not like gaudy.

So it's it's a nice simple design I like wearing

comic book shirts, but I never like anything

that where it's just like taking up the whole

front of the shirt right, you know, so So that's

going to be really fun to be able to do t -shirts

this time. Joel's going to be doing commissions

again. So he'll have 10 commissions that he will

do. And he does an incredible job. It's any character

anyone wants. People can appear in the issue

again. That's our top tier one. And with that,

you get basically everything that came before

it. Plus, you get to be in the issue with inside.

interior credits so people know that you are

in the issue and ask for the person's photo of

the person so their likeness can be done well.

And you never know what's going to happen with

that because the first issue, obviously we're

bringing back a couple of those characters into

the second issue. So you never know, you might

start becoming a reoccurring character if I feel

like, oh, this is somebody I can use again. So

there's fun stuff like that. And then, like I

said, the add -on thing I really love because

once you've picked the reward that you want,

you can then go to the add -on section. And let's

say I had so many people that were like, well,

what if I want two copies of the issue? Because

I want to give one to each of my kids or I want

one for myself and one to keep in bag and boarded

so nothing happens to it. I've had people want

that. This allows them to add more than just

one issue to their package. We also have one

thing from the first Kickstarter that wasn't

going to be available for this one. We added

as an add -on, which is the behind the scenes

art book, which my wife and I put so many hours

into putting this 48 page hardcover book that

has concept art in it, behind the scenes information.

It really was a labor of love. We probably put

as many hours into that as we did the actual

comic. And it's a really nice piece. If you really

like the world that we created, it really gives

you a lot more insight as to what we're creating

and what things might be coming in the future.

So that's an add -on that people can add on there.

Or since we're doing t -shirts, if you want more

than one t -shirt, you can add more t -shirts

to your order and things like that. And all those

add -ons are at no extra cost. So there's no

extra cost for shipping. Like, you obviously

have extra cost of the item, of course. Yeah,

no, you're going to pay for the item, but there's

no extra shipping for anyone. So the shipping

is the shipping. But speaking of shipping, if

you want to avoid shipping at all, you will have

two early bird specials. And the early bird special

is there's one for getting just the comic itself.

And then there's one for the package deal, where

you get the comic, the variant cover, the prints,

and the bookmark. And you won't have to pay any

shipping. But that is only going to be for just

over 48 hours. So it's going to be there available

at launch day. And then it will not be available

the following Monday at 1159 PM. It will stop

being available at that point. So if you want

to get in on this without having to pay any type

of shipping, That's how you do it. Because again,

remember, you can always, if there are other

things you wanted, you can always add them on

as add -ons. And you still won't be paying any

shipping. For anyone that missed out on the first

Kickstarter, don't worry. We have you covered

with that also. Because there are packages for

where you can get issue one and issue two. And

issue one is also an add -on. So again, if you

pick your package and you're like, I never got

issue one, you can add issue one when you go

to checkout. Yeah, that's always a cool thing.

I kind of did that with Popkill from Jimmy Palmiotti

and Dave Johnson Yeah, where when they put on

for issues three and four or Whatever or no,

I missed issue one. I got issue two So I was

able to get a package deal with issue one and

two nice and then when they were launching for

three and four I was able to get a package with

You know both three and four in it and what like

Let me tell you folks, you know people say whatever

they want to say about Kickstarter and comic

book and comfort creators going to Kickstarter

and all this other controversial Bullcrap bullshit

because we are explicit here at the pull bag.

But seriously like Some of this stuff is really

really cool. Yeah, and you know It's a platform

that creators can use which is is good They make

it very easy to use. They make it so you can

really customize it the way you want it to be.

I'm so glad they've had this add -on thing because

I didn't want to do 20 packages where it was

like basically it's the same package, but this

one is for those that missed issue one. This

is the same package, but this one's for the ones

that missed issue one, which is what you had

to do in the past. I said I do have a couple

like that just because the early packages because

it was just easy to do it that way. But the later

packages, I don't have duplicates of it. It's

just if you need issue one and you want one of

the other packages, you can just add the issue

one when you go to checkout as an add -on. And

oh, and the other thing we're doing for this

one too, which was a lot of fun, it was a last

-minute add -on that we, like a last -minute

reward we did last time, but a lot of people

really liked it, is we're doing the digital coloring

book again. We'll have a digital coloring book

just like we did for the first one, but it'll

be obviously based on the artwork from issue

two, and it'll probably be somewhere around maybe

eight to 10 pages. It'll be black and white,

and it'll be formatted, so you can actually print

any page out that you want and color it. Or if

you're someone that does digital coloring, you

can use it to do digital coloring. So yeah, that

was a fun little thing that really didn't require

more time, but didn't require extra cost, which

is always a plus when you're doing a Kickstarter,

because you need that money to pay your creators

and all that type of stuff. So if you can come

up with a reward where people feel like they're

getting their money's worth from it, and it just

requires time on your part, I will do those type

of rewards all day long, because I will give

as much of my time into this project as I have

to. if it means that it makes my backers happy.

And the big thing, too, I mentioned this in my

own podcast, and it's something that I want people

to understand as far as why I went to Kickstarter

and why I'm doing Kickstarter. Could I fund this

issue myself? Probably. It would take time, obviously,

because you got to save up money, and then you

go to Joel and go, I got enough money for two

more pages, let's go. So I could do it that way.

But part of Kickstarter is building that fan

base and building that community. Yeah, I could

have the issue made myself, but then how do I

get people to know about it? How do I get people

to buy it and stuff like that? Whereas Kickstarter

helps people become part of the process and become

part of the community and become fans of this.

And that's what I'm trying to build. And yours,

you know, just for example, when you offered

me the early bird special for the first issue,

instead of paying $10 for the PDF or whatever,

and the physical comic, I paid $7. But the point

is, my $7 goes towards being a part of, I helped

Kickstart, I helped fund that first issue. So

it's a part of the comics community coming together

to help creators that don't have a job with any

major comic company that you know don't have

the backing of any major Movie studio or label

or whatever you want to you know, you know Yeah,

you may be the host with the most but you are

not You are not part of the Warner Brothers No,

I am not I'm not rolling in money and I don't

have a major corporation backing me or anything

like that I am I am me I have a full -time job

and and then this is this has become my other

full -time job I don't sleep much, especially

when we start getting close to launch of the

Kickstarter. I'm stressed out every day, but

it's all worth it in the end because... after

those 30 days are over, if I did everything I

possibly could, I typically see the results and

it's awesome. And also that just because we have

our goal, we're trying to reach $9 ,000, which

is a little bit less than last time, which is

a good thing because it means I learned from

the first time, like where we can maybe not have

some bigger costs and everything. but costs are

still a factor. Costs haven't gone down, they

go up. I'm hoping we'll surpass it like we did

last time because if we can surpass that goal,

I can do some other things. Last time I was able

to give everyone an extra print and those that

weren't getting a print originally got at least

one print, which was really fun to be able to

do for backers to give them a little something

extra. We were able to do original artwork for

the bookmark. Originally, we were going to just

repurpose some of the artwork that we had for

the issue and just make a bookmark out of it,

which is not easy to do, but it's easier to do

when you have a wife that's a graphic designer,

because she's really able to help me. And this

character is based on my wife. I know we mentioned

that for the first issue, but I want to mention

that for this as well. And she is such an integral

part of this. She helps me in ways that I...

I cannot even explain as far as like, like I

said, utilizing her graphic design skills. She

reaches out to places like we got so much media

attention and a large portion of that is because

my wife was reaching out to places for me and

helping me out. So I can't thank her enough.

So she's not just the inspiration of this superhero,

but she is a strong component of that. I was

mentioning all the other creators that have helped

me, but like I would be remiss if I didn't mention

her as well. And yet he didn't bring her on the

podcast, folks. I didn't. She's working. Sure.

That's your excuse. She's working. We got launch

date in like three days. You've got her tied

up in that costume in some basement somewhere.

Hey, whatever works. Ain't that the damn truth.

But yeah, no, it's been a heck of a ride. I am

really looking forward to this one being launched.

And like I mentioned, we have costs and everything

else. And could I do it myself? Yeah, potentially.

But like I said, I'm trying to build an audience.

But that doesn't mean I'm not putting my own

money into this. So as much as I'm asking people

to back this, I have Joel working on four pages

right now. And he's already done the cover. And

Chris is going to be doing the coloring work

for those. That's all out of my pocket. Those

are not going to be paid by the Kickstarter.

I'm not going to be reimbursed by the Kickstarter.

The Kickstarter is to take care of the rest of

the pages. So I am absolutely putting my money

where my mouth is and saying, hey, if you want

to back this and support it, I'm right there

with you backing and support it. Yes, it's my

dream to make this comic story happen. But because

it's my dream, I'm investing my own money into

it as well. Yeah, exactly. It's a passion project.

Like I said a little while ago, this isn't something

that Marvel or DC or IDW or Image or insert comic

company name here is giving you a salary for

to produce for them. This is something that you

are producing on your own. Of course, you know,

just look at 13 years of podcasting for me, how

much I've had to and I have gotten plenty of

donations in 13 years. Thank you to everybody

who has ever done me anything. But, you know,

you do it because you love it. You don't do it.

Yeah. But I mean, you're not doing it because

like, oh, I'm making a lot of money doing this.

No, I'm doing it for the fame of saying that

the geek cast radio networks most repeat interview

guest is Stan Bush Talk about daring to have

the touch Well, yeah for sure Well, and the thing

is I've had you know I was fortunate enough to

have like local news Outlets and morning shows

and things like that have me on and it was that

was a lot of fun and nothing I ever expected

to have happen But a lot of them ask me, like,

what's the dream? What's the thing that you hope

this turns into? And the best analogy I can give

people is I want this to become like Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles. Because they started off

as a little independent comic book that just

caught fire and people loved it and they just

kept telling stories. And if you ever have the

opportunity to talk to Kevin Eastman or watch

interviews with him and stuff like that, It's

not about the fame or the money with him It's

the fun of telling his stories and and seeing

the action figures and all that like that's what

it is for me, too It's like yeah, I want Stealth

Hammer to be a cartoon series I want Stealth

Hammer to be an action figure so that like I

can picture it all happening a lot of stuff We're

creating here is very like they calling toys

that made us. It's very toy addict You know,

so there's a lot of fun and everything else.

But and that's what it is for me. It's the fun

of that. It's getting the story out there and

just having a blast doing it. If fame and fortune

come with it, that's great. But I really but

that money would very likely be used to to keep

telling the story and and to help people around

me. I live, you know, I have a full time job.

Hopefully this eventually can be my full time

job. But I have a full time job. My wife has

a full time job. We live comfortably. I'm happy

to just live comfortably. I'm not looking to

have mansions and yachts and all that type of

stuff. If this could turn into something incredible

and I could use that benefit to help the people

that have helped me get here and that have been

a part of my life all along, that would be amazing.

My wife and I love doing charity type things

whenever we can. None of that would ever change.

But for me, it's the fun of being able to continue

telling the story and where it can go, both story

-wise where it can go, but also multimedia -wise

where it can go. I can't even imagine turning

on Netflix one day and seeing a Stealth Hammer

animated series on there. That would just blow

my mind. I'd probably die right then and there

out of shock. Well, I do know one... toy company,

you could probably, I don't know if you'd get

them to do it, but they offer like, you know,

create your own thing. I can just see a pop of

your dog Aria right now. I can just see Funko

Pop Stove Hammer figures breaking that money.

So yeah, like you said, it's one of those things

like that's, you know, when they ask me what's

the dream, I'm like, that's the dream. And I

said, it's not, and like I said, it's not for

the fame or the fortune or anything like that.

It's really just, to see something that was an

idea in my head become this like something else,

like just take on a life of its own, like that

would be incredible. And honestly, I was extremely

moved when the first issue showed up on my doorstep.

Like that was hard to like... You know you get

choked up when you see that happen. So So I'm

hoping the same thing happens for issue to like

I get excited when I get artwork from Joel or

from Chris or something like that like I'll run

through the house being like I got a new page

from Joel I got a new page from Joel because

something I wrote that was in my head that I

worked on a piece of paper now has become something

so That's the coolest part about it. You know,

and I don't know how many times, and this show

isn't about me, folks. This show is about Ryan

and Stealth Hammer and all that good Peter Gabriel

stuff. Yeah, it's like, you know me I've been

a writer off and on since I was 14 so 94 almost,

you know 30 years right and You know those early

years like 96 97 98 99 Like the first thing at

that time was Oh subsidy publishing don't ever

do subsidy publishing Oh, you you want your stuff

published you pay us $5 ,000 or whatever. Whatever

it is. I don't know And then I eventually, you

know, worked on it and got it done. And I have

three books. Again, I don't talk about this a

lot on this podcast because I don't really consider

my published writing career other than the stuff

I do on GeekCastRadio .com that much of anything.

But, you know, I got three books. Yeah, no, no.

And that's my point of bringing it up and why

I keep saying I don't talk about it much on the

show, but to tie into what you're saying about

getting that first issue. Delivered to your door.

Yeah, I remember the first time my first book

of poetry. I remember when those like 15 Promo

copies came to me or whatever they used to call

them. Well, whatever it is, you know Yeah, yeah,

and I remember that and there's several different

pictures of me in an old apartment Just sitting

there grinning ear to ear holding a book up and

you know, so trust me I I know I know that exact

feeling it's the same thing when I put out a

podcast like You know, you're talking about,

you know, running around the house with a PDF

in your hand, or a tablet in your hand. Oh, Chris

gave me this new page, and blah, blah, blah,

whatever. It's like, for me to be able to do

the podcasting, I normally need the art before

I, like, the recording is fine. What we're doing

right now, fine, I can do that, I'm in the moment,

and I'm excited about what you're coming out

with, Stealth Hammer. But for me to edit a podcast,

I need Steve Megatron or whomever I can get to

put that banner together to be like, OK, here's

the banner. And I'm like, OK, cool. I can now

go do my editing and be done. And it goes live.

And it's out there. And if people listen, great.

And if people don't, whatever. Well, and I know

the feeling, too, because obviously I've been

doing podcasts for 12 years now, which is a long

time for most podcasts. I know you've been doing

it longer. But for most podcasts, that's a long

time to be doing podcasts. And it made me question,

OK, how much longer am I doing this for? So right

now, I'm 46 years old. Right now, the target

date for me is when I turn 50 that I will at

least be evaluating things at that point. Oh,

no. Hey, that's still four years away. That's

still a lot of podcasting years ahead If you

have the mentality of me where I want to do like

a thousand podcasts per year, right, right But

yeah, so well like I said and like my wife made

a comment She says, you know, the podcast was

always your side thing and she goes now the comics

starting to become your side thing And I'm like,

yeah. And I was like, but I'm still trying to

do the podcast. So I still enjoy it. And if it

wasn't for the podcast, I wouldn't have had as

much backing as I did the first time. So a lot

of my listeners really helped support it. So

yeah, it's a fun ride. It's a fun thing to see

where things go. And it's also fun to be able

to look back and go, OK, these are the legacies

I'm leaving behind. I've been proud of the podcast.

I've been very proud of the issue the comic issue

and I'm hoping to be proud of this second comic

issue. So Absolutely, I started Like I said December

of 2008. I was 28 years old I'll be 42 Next February.

Yeah, so, you know, it's like holy crap. Yeah.

Yeah You know and at this point, you know, I'm

you know I mentioned this to you off air and

I'm not rubbing this in or anything But you know

top 100 Transformers characters countdown if

you haven't heard it folks go listen because

I put 100 I like literally that's I I hate this

term I hate I hate it I hate it and everybody

that says it has just Engrained it into my bro.

That's basically my chef's kiss to the world

of podcast Part one through six of the top 100

Transformers characters countdown. I put so much

damn work into that stuff. And it's like, like

that's that. Steve and I were Transformers fans.

That's how we kind of met with the whole podcasting

thing. And he had a podcast and I wanted to do

whatever. But it's like, even though GeekCaster

Network has gone on and done other things, Transformers

is what we are at the core. Sure. Yeah. And if

you do a top 100 Transformers characters countdown,

I was not going to half ass it. Every time I

can put Megatron throttling Starscream every

10 seconds or something, you know what I mean?

So trust me, with what you're doing with the

first issue, what you did with the first issue,

what you're gonna be doing with the second issue,

It's a moment of pride and oh, yeah, there's

no I I Try my best not to use a lot of terms

and one of the terms I try my best not to use

is the humble brag because honestly Bragging

about what you've done should be humble It's

one of those things where yeah, I did that I'm

proud of that, you know, yeah, I you know spoiled

nuts spoiled, but I got Maurice LaMarche to reveal

something before he was supposed to. It wasn't

even intentional. This was years ago. When Arkham

City first came out, we interviewed him right

before it came out, and we had asked him the

voice acting question, which is, what type of

voice acting do you like to do? animation live

-action narration video games whatever he said

oh the funny thing about video games is you know

you're stuck in a room by yourself you don't

have the ensemble cast a lot of the times it's

just you reading lines right and then he goes

oh I just got out and literally like a day ago

I just got out of a session voicing mr. freeze

for Batman Arkham City and my jaw dropped to

the floor Yeah, exactly. I don't know what Optimus

Solo did, because I don't remember, but I remember

my moment in that. I'm like, oh my god, the brain

is the voice of Mr. Freeze in Batman Arkham City.

My next immediate thing, as soon as my brain

could function again, can you give us a sample?

Oh, yeah. No, sorry, we can't because of NDA,

whatever else. I edited that interview so damn

fast. Got it online. Some other little website

picked it up. And then IGN picked it up. And

oh, my god, it blew up for us for a while. Yeah.

And that whole day, I'm trying to get ahold of

Maurice LaMarche's agent. I'm trying to get ahold

of Maurice. I'm like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

I didn't realize. I didn't realize. Do you want

me to go back and edit it out? Do you want me

to go back and change? He's like. It's already

out there. There's no point and I'm like, oh

god Maurice Lamar shit at the time I was living

in Louisville, Kentucky. I'm like Crap, he's

gonna fly here from LA and beat me up like Bob

used to beat the people up at the end You know

what I mean? Like it's one of those moments where

it's like holy shit and Yeah, I mean you deserve

everything that you're and again you deserve

it because you are working your ass off. Oh,

yeah Like you said, you're putting your money

into it. I don't want to say you're using your

wife, but you and your wife are working to create

this thing. And even though it is a passion project,

because it is an investment into whatever future

you want it to be, fuck everybody else. Be proud

of it. Yeah. No, I'm very proud of it. The biggest

thing, obviously, is when you're in the middle

of it all. I've told my wife many times the hardest

thing to do is to take a step back and realize

what you've accomplished and what you're doing.

Because it's so easy when you're in the middle

of all of it just to get lost in the weeds and

get wrapped up in what has to get done and not

be able to take a step back and look at what

you've already done. I've got comics from issue

one. Down in my basement like on a ping -pong

table like stuff that's ready for any time I

get an order for one stuff like that I can put

it together anything else That's something I

can do when I'm getting lost in the weeds is

I can go down there and just look and go I made

this like Like I didn't do it alone. Of course.

I didn't do it in the right but if it if it wasn't

for me like Putting the together the team and

that's the thing my wife points out to me. She's

like you put together this team, you worked with

everybody, you got the word out there, you did

everything every day that you could to make this

happen. And I am the first one, and anyone hopefully

that works with me would agree to this, and my

wife would definitely agree to this, I'm the

first one to toot everyone else's horn and say,

oh my God, Joel's artwork is incredible and Chris's

coloring is... is amazing and I can't wait to

see what Chrissy Zulu comes up with because her

stuff is stunning and Robert Atkins who did the

variant cover on the first issue is like, it

blew my mind. I will give praise to everybody

and I make sure my creators are paid so that

they know that their work that they do is worth

it and everything else but I don't do always

a good job of taking a step back and realizing

like... Yeah, none of this happens if I didn't

do the stuff I do. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.

You know, and again, not necessarily to make

this about me, but to relate to that when we

were recording part six of the top 100 Transformers

characters countdown, which is basically just

the wrap up where we were. Optimus Solo went

through various statistics and whatever else,

and we once again thanked all of the. 20 or 30

participants are who however many people helped

us make I think it was like 23 or whatever You

know and then you know I go and thank him and

I go and thank Steve Megatron and then I just,

you know, cause, cause I'm, you know, self -deprecating.

I just say, Oh, I'm just the editor. I didn't

do anything. Ah, whatever. It doesn't matter.

And then they're, they both pipe up. Oh no, no,

no, no, no. This wouldn't happen without Mike

being here without him sitting in a chair for

19 hours or 13 hours or whatever the hell it

was and doing the editing, whatever else. Like,

yeah, I am all like, if you ever see any of my

promotions on any of the podcasts. Put ever I

put my name last I never put my name as long

as it makes sense Like in how I'm writing up

the like for example for this episode Here's

the latest episode of the pull bag featuring

the stealth hammer creator Ryan Drost and hosted

by you know, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

obviously whatever fits into Twitter's 280 whatever

but you know what I mean like In my post for

the episode I only recently in the last couple

years started putting my name first like any

description any description of the episode it

would be like Chuck and Ryan talk about whatever,

or Anthony and Ryan talk about whatever, like

Eric, Robert, and Ryan talk about, you know,

so it would be stuff like that. And then finally

I started realizing, wait, I'm the common denominator

in all of these. I'm the one why this show is

still going on. I'm the reason why, you know,

we have episodes, because sometimes it's just

me. Um, and uh, so yeah, I was, I was like, okay,

I'm gonna start putting my name first. Like that

was the little step that I forced myself to do

because I was like, again, like you said, it's

like, I'm the one doing all the work. I deserve

to have my name first. For me in the, you know,

in the long run, I don't care. I just, I, I don't

know. I see myself a little differently. I guess

I see myself to essentially is not mattering

even though. Oh, I'm most of the time. That's

how I am. But yeah, yeah, myself too. To realize

my worth because again because of support of

my wife because of people around me telling me

that I should be doing stuff like that and it

doesn't make me Ragged ocious or anything like

that. It's just recognizing my worth and that's

why like even on the first issue in the credits

I thought about just putting writer Because it

was because I was the writer, you know, that's

what it is but it was like My wife's like, yeah,

but you were more than just the writer. You did

so much more than that. So that's why I put writer

and creator. Because I was like, I did help make

sure this thing got created. So the whole world

is based on my vision. So yeah, so as much as

I will always promote everybody else that worked

on this project, and I love every single one

of them. They've done incredible work and have

been amazing to work with. Yeah, it's one of

those things where I do need to make sure I'm

at least acknowledging myself every once in a

while, even if it's the little things, like I

said, putting my name first on the podcast thing

or just the description. Those are just little

things, but they're things that at least, it's

me telling me that, yeah, you did something here,

you created something here, so pay attention

to that. Absolutely. And hopefully we'll create

another new thing with issue two, and I'm hoping

that people will support it. And like I've mentioned

on my own podcast, and I think I mentioned to

you before we even started recording, even if

somebody cannot back this, even if someone says,

I just don't have the money right now, I totally

understand that. I completely understand that.

But can you at least share it? It costs you nothing

to do that. Oh yeah, absolutely. Promotion. Not

that What I was gonna say because with all algorithms

out there with all the different social media

stuff I had people that told me they never even

saw the Kickstarter for the first one Even though

I even though I had people sharing it like crazy.

I had a ton of people sharing It was awesome.

Like you were definitely one of the people like

yeah Oh, yeah, you were sharing it and I love

it at least once a day if not twice depending

on the day. Yeah, and I can't thank you enough

for that. And I had a lot of people that were

doing stuff like that. And I still had people

after the kickstart was done and the issue was

made that were like, Oh, I never even knew about

this. And I'm like, you know, I've got 800 people

on Facebook that I'm friends with the algorithms

aren't going to always show them stuff. So that's

why it's so important for, like I said, even

if people can't back it themselves, or it's just

not something that they want to back. And I understand

that too. It's just not for them. Then get it

out there, get the message out there, say, hey,

this looks like something really cool that I

thought some people out there might find interesting

and just put it out there and then let people

find it. And that helps more than anything. So.

Absolutely. All right, folks, I think we've been

hammered enough drinking throughout this entire

episode. Don't drink, folks. Don't drink, don't

do drugs. This is your brain. This is your brain

on drugs. Does anybody else feel like a fried

egg? So we're gonna get the heck out of here.

Where can the people find you online, sir? They

can find me. Stealth Hammer has a Facebook fan

page, it has an Instagram page, and it has a

Twitter account. If you look for, search for

Stealth Hammer, you will find it there. The Kickstarter,

like I said, will be launching on October 23rd,

Saturday at 7 p .m. Eastern Standard Time. You

can find the Kickstarter simply by searching

Stealth Hammer on the Kickstarter page, and you'll

probably see the old one in there that was funded

and was created, and you can check that out if

you're hearing this before Saturday, October

23rd. You can see the old project that we did

and it gives you some idea of what we're going

to be doing for the new one. But then once it

launches, that's the easiest way to find it is

just search Stealth Hammer on the Kickstarter

page. And if you ever want to check out my podcast,

it's Star Joe's. And again, we have, we're on

all the various platforms that we could be on

and to listen to episodes there. And if you liked

hearing me, you can hear a lot more of me there.

So yeah. Basically, folks, Ryan is to Star Joe's,

as I am to the Geekcast Radio Network. My voice

is always heard. To everyone's chagrin. But anyway.

Alright, folks, make your great escape into comics,

and we will catch you next time here inside the

pool bag. I wanna be your stealth hammer. I wanna

be your sledgehammer. I wanna be your stealth

hammer. God, I cannot sing, but the best voice

I can do in is this one. I wanna be your stealth

hammer. Which... Sounds like crap, so... Send

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