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Batman Beyond Rebirth: Target Batman Arc

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inside the pull bag. Alright folks it is Batman
month 2019 here inside the pull bag. This is
episode 349 .5 I'm of course TF2 and Mike joining
me is JT from Saskatoon. Hello, sir. Good afternoon.
Good evening and good God It's a matter with
you a great many things Well, you know at least
you're not brain damaged literally Absolutely
nothing in guarding our personalized in that
statement folks who knows I don't even know anymore
listen last week's episode I screwed that up
all kinds of hell in the beginning there Yeah,
but we are Traveling back to our favorite not
spider -man 2099 allegory Yes, exactly. This
is neo Gotham 65 years in the future or whatever
you want to call it We are back to Batman Beyond
Rebirth written by Dan Juergens. This arc has
art by Will Conrad, Marco Castillo, and Mark
Morales. David Barron with Will Quintana are
the colorists, and Travis Lanham is the letterer.
This is the Target Batman arc, so it's been...
good 40 something episodes since we did the long
payback two -parter way back in episode 314 and
315 target Batman is the next arc and what a
twist I was not expecting this but decades from
now Because you know they have to have it in
every single issue. I understand they need to
establish that it's the future It's not currently
going on Target Batman is the story of Batman
and Robin and Ten and Dana and Bruce and the
only thing that's missing is ace Yeah Where do
we want to start with this one? The fact that
DC can't stop shoving the idea of 52 down our
gullets every time they bring up a new comic
and or TV show Because decades from now DC still
doing this shit and we find Jack writer the creeper
has survived to the world to the future of neo
Gotham and he's and He's a news anchor on news
52 in neo Gotham You know not then they're not
really writing Like there've been so many different
characterizations of Jack writer over the years.
It's they're writing him as a News reporter,
that's it. He's not like some guy who's absent
who's after the absolute existential truth He's
not some muckraking journalist, you know He's
Anderson Cooper Okay, well I wasn't gonna go
that far. At least you didn't say he's Bill Maher,
thank God. Bill Maher can suck all the pee. I
was just gonna allegorize him as the Peter Jennings
of the news world because you've you mentioned
you know others and i'm thinking oh he's not
tom brokaw he's not dan rather than that must
mean that he's not nbc or cbs that must mean
he's a bc and that would must mean he's peter
jennings but yes he is here uh... and this first
issue in the in this are basically has scab one
of the jokers one of the main jokers uh... basically
shooting up the police station Because he's afraid
of the bat, the monster bat. Yeah, and I like
the fact that they named this guy, because I
don't think they ever named him in the cartoon.
But he's like one of the first jokers we meet
in the animated series is like, oh, you owe me
for that smile. I didn't say, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know, getting all creepy and in the ladies
personal space. But yeah, he's shot up some lab
and that's. Yep. Yeah, so. we have that going
on in this issue we have uh... we go to the uh...
wing manor in the bad cave with bruce and terry
and and uh... terry's just finding out that bruce
enlisted matty little matty mcginnis as the new
robin he's like tell me you didn't And I love
that toothpaste can't be put back in the tube
Terry and I can only imagine Terry just looks
gives him this look of Death when he says that
yeah And I love how with Matt flying and he's
got his wings 40 his silhouettes kind of like
the Batmobile With its you know the hood and
all that although when you go that page back
and you see the shot of Wayne Manor on the cliffs
it's like you might want to think about moving
the mansion because I don't know that that cliffside
looks it's about three years away from falling
into the ocean. Yeah, absolutely. Well, yeah,
Matt, Terry is not impressed with Bruce, like,
you know, pulling his brother into this and,
you know, it's not your call to make. And Bruce
is like, you really think there was anything
else was going to happen? Like, think about our
world, man. This shit happens all the time. I
mean Terry does have a point because both his
parents are gone at this point and he is Matt's
legal guardian. Technically he has a point but
obviously Bruce is always Bruce and he's always
right. So as we go further you know Melanie shows
up and she and Terry have this moment let's say
right as the wrong thing happens Dana Tan shows
up as she's trying to leave Terry a message She
just kind of walks through the gates of Wayne
Manor, like, um, where's your security, dude?
This is why you need Ace the Bat Hound here.
And she kind of walks down the driveway and sees,
without them seeing her, she sees Terry and Melanie
kissing. And that just kind of makes her walk
the other way. Matt calls out to him and, oh,
it's an emergency. It's this, it's that, it's
the commissioner. It's Scab shooting up the police
station. So he's got to go do the bat thing.
I love the up close panel, at least in Comixology
Guided View, how they close up on the panel when
he says that I won't disappoint him. I love what
Will Conrad... and the cauterists do for batman's
like whole face his scowl his his look it looks
so i just i love that look on him that's so cool
you know it's like i like how bruce kind of he
doesn't straight come out and admit his culpability
in like all the crap that's happened to the rest
of the bat family but he's like you know that
whole think about how this is going to play out
either give him this chance now He's gonna do
it anyway and get messed up And Barry's like,
yeah fine like through the grid the grittiest
of gridded teeth Mm -hmm, and then that I love
that look of joy on Matt's face when they fly
out of the back And then you see how like you
never would have thought like bear Barry Terry
In the animated series, and a lot of the comics,
you know, before this, had this very Spider -Man
-like characterization, like, you know, he's
a little quippy, he, you know, he messes with
his opponents a little more, and in that, you're
here to learn, stay behind me and follow orders,
Matt, and he's just like, Jesus, you are Bruce's
son. Yep, very much so. and we get to the station
and Scab's got this officer still held at gunpoint,
or civilian as the commissioner says. It looks
like he's been down 10 miles of hard road while
drinking nothing but rot -gut whiskey, because
even under that makeup, his face looks kind of
jacked up. Yeah, the page where he says, the
bat is the devil. Everyone in his army deserves
to die. Scab looks like a really, really beaten
up drunk Santa. He looks like Billy Bob Thornton
on his worst day. Kind of bad Santa here. No,
he definitely, like I said, 10 miles of bad road
and all that whiskey. Matt goes to help Barbara
and Barbara's like he did it again. Mm -hmm And
then did it again you're Robin like he says it's
so enthusiastic Put his hands on his hips the
boy wonder Yeah, and then of all the things you
would expect scab to pull out of his bag I did
not expect him to pull out the classic staple
of 80s action movies and an uzi yeah i'm not
saying everyone's got like sci -fi weapons in
neo gotham but you know you just didn't expect
them to pull out something that just shoots lead
you know and then you know batman takes them
out surprised to see me a little i'm more surprised
that i lived so long batman bruce wayne bruce
wayne batman or have you met not now Great. What
did they used to call it? Stereo? Uh, we follow
Jack Ryder's co -host, Ms. Stern, to, uh, you
know, back to her apartment, and, you know, she's
getting some coffee, gonna work on something,
next thing you know, this demonic version of
Terry comes out of the ether like the phantasm,
all like venom claws and teeth and ready to swallow
her soul. Mm -hmm. Yeah, you're gonna hear me
say this a lot, folks. When Will Conrad and the
colorists go to do the designs on the altered
Batman and Robin of what people think they're
actually seeing, the demonic versions of them,
I swear to God, it's like Venom and Carnage all
over again. Especially once Matt gets the new
suit and they have that image later. But yeah,
that's how this first issue ends with her seeing
demonic Bat. Love this. I remember when I first
read this I'm like, ooh, I Can't wait until next
time cuz you know, obviously these come out monthly
unless you do wait Four or five six seven eight
nine months for a trade paperback. I Love the
cover to issue to the wanted debtor alive with
deal the like it's a combination of electricity
in the bricks i think and like obviously barbed
wire like like prison wire kind of thing razor
wire yeah razor wire i love that cover yeah no
that's great and you got like the the holographic
uh wanted poster and batman's like got this look
like he's concerned but it's got this Charlie
Brown ass good grief quality to it. He's like
exactly he's like son of us snapper Or however,
they actually curse in the future although I
do like because I've got Some of like single
issues here. I'm going I love the alternate cover
with I think that's Phil Hester art I know something
Johnson. Okay, but it looks kind of like Phil
Hester art and I like how It just kind of like
it's got this Blade Runner quality with the with
the buildings and the Japanese kanji like neon
signs, but when you look at the suit, it looks
like it's Something more cloth like this is more
of a noir. It gives it kind of this more noirish
vibe Mm -hmm like it's just got this. It's like
something other 1930s. He's got armpit glider
wings, but yeah I've got the cover gallery in
the back of the trade, so I'll be able to see
all that stuff at the end of the show so we start
this issue off with Batman fighting the jokers
and harlet and all that and bat monsters and
Everything else the jokers look cool here. I
think that's interesting and I love Batman's
interior monologue like The jokers have grenades
that's definitely not like them at all yeah,
and you know we get back to the mansion and Matt
and Matt's complaining to Bruce about Terry saying
you can't be Robin anymore Although I do like
that. Why'd you name your AI Alfred? That's like
from that Bruce is like long story Yeah, very
long story I do Love that, you know, we have
that that line and I do love the AI bit we then
get a scene between Jack and and Melanie because
Jack is apparently her sponsor for criminals
anonymous or whatever it's suppose whatever group
or whatever therapy she's in like jack is her
sponsor i think that's cool uh... stern shows
up and no it's not howard he retired years ago
folks uh... she shows up and she's in trouble
and oh my god monster just she sees his shadow
flying by He goes to Dana's place and basically
freaks her out because she hates it when he Comes
in as Batman kind of a thing So he pulls the
mask off. Oh, it's you. It's just you Terry.
It's just you and and everything else and they
have this huge kind of Well, it could have just
been like an argument, but clearly there's something
wrong with Dana because all of a sudden he goes
from in her mind uh terry goes from being venom
to spawn yeah and is it racist that dan jurgens
named her ai assistant mulan maybe not culturally
sensitive enough but it's just like i don't know
and would it be really racist if mulan sounded
like uh I'm McNaWen. Well, she's not doing much
these days other than being an agent of shit,
so... Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! Don't talk shit
about that show, son. That show sucks. You suck.
That show hasn't been good, even before season
one, episode five, which is the last time I watched
it. Anyway, back on track. So, Terry... he doesn't
know that she's having like this mental breakdown
of a sort right now and he just thinks that she's
really upset with him because of him kissing
Melanie so he's like I'm sorry and he you know
he pimps out and then he sees that the entire
town has gone straight to the third level of
hell everybody's trying to kill Batman because
they assume he's trying to kill them he's a bat
monster although I do I love the one line in
the dialogue. This made me laugh out loud when
I first read the comic. It makes me smile now.
This stature represents the haters. And I was
like, okay. Yeah. But he goes in, he rescues
this little girl from the fire and then, you
know, that freak tried to take my child, shoot
him out of the sky. Well, first of all, he just
rescued your daughter and he's standing right
in front of you. So clearly everyone is sipping
on whatever kool -aid the jokers had yeah, and
yeah exactly and What I love as the scene keeps
going forward here Barbara shows up civilians
down now. You're in the line of fire Did she
say crap? Yeah, and he was like, oh, piffle.
Yep. And that's kind of how this part of the
story ends, is like the to -be -continued thing
where Barbara's like, burn it! Burn the bat!
And his little thing, and if that's the case,
there's no way I walk out of here alive. Yeah.
Um... I think the I mean I guess it's because
it happens in this in this next issue but I think
doing the Scarecrow cover with him kind of puppeteering
for Batman marioneting him whatever you want
to call it I think that was a bit too too on
the nose for a cover for this next part of the
story or have a new villain straight so I think
it's like spoiling This kind of spoiled like
that reveal. Yeah. And this is a spoiler on the
level of like the second trailer of Terminator
Genesis showing John Connor got turned into like
a nano Terminator. Like, I still don't like that
movie, but would have been nice to not have like
the biggest reveal. You know out months before
so then like why watch the movie now, you know
that sort of thing Although I do like the image
of you know, scarecrow puppeteering in the strings
being like code and all that yeah, I Know one
of the characters like I know when they did the
animated series talked about we're gonna have
maybe some analogs But they're not gonna straight
-up use Any of the old villains I really wish
they would have used Scarecrow I mean you kind
of got elements of that with spellbinder, but
You know I mean I like that the old animated
series used you know fairly original characters
for the most part With Juergens is run both the
2015 series and this current rebirth series has
been going since 2016 I love what they've done
so far. I love that. They're constantly teasing
the Joker thing I love that they've used who
they've used and how they've like pay using payback
for the last art kind of thing and whatever and
Scarecrow here somehow being It's still Scarecrow,
but it's not Jonathan Crane Scarecrow. It's not
fear gas Scarecrow. It's not crazy dirty doctor
psychologist Silly Scarecrow. Yeah Yeah, it's
it's an all -new all different kind of scarecrow
and then it turns into obviously a mystery as
to how this scarecrow is Manipulating the fear
and whatever and what's so funny is I'm cycling
through the the trade here There's this you know
that there's a scene where the scarecrow is is
Monologuing afraid Batman good because I like
this and you see the panel with the scarecrow
feet and the gun in front of him kind of a thing
and it's it's i just wish that cover did not
tease and i didn't even notice the the tech lines
like you did on the cover with the with the strings
because i'm just reading this back again i was
like how is she do how is scarecrow doing this
how is this happening uh... So in the story we
get to a point of after the fight we get back
to the Batcave and obviously as the fight's going
on Terry needs help and Bruce makes Maddie a
new Robin costume and it's more in line with
the Batman Beyond costume except it's Robin -esque
and it has yellow wings instead of red wings.
Well I think some of the design like you look
at the R This is I think very much inspired by
the Tim Drake costume for Robin Whereas the last
one it was more like red yellow and black Which
again is inspired by the I think by the Tim Drake
one year later costume where after infinite crisis
You know this timeline of all the comics was
moved forward a year That sort of thing and he
just had they took away the green which is you
know after infinite crisis after his dad was
killed by Captain Boomerang and all that I'm
really digging this new suit Yeah, I like the
new Robin suit here more so than the previous
one that he was using we get to Jack and he's
at Adeline's apartment and You know trying to
figure out where she is and where she's going
and what's going on and he finds all these papers
of Hundreds of them isn't Batman Batman Batman
Got some beautiful mind level stuff going on
here We get back to the fight where Batman is
pretty much trying not to fight, obviously, because
it's now citizens that are trying to kill him.
He's trying to save them and things like that.
The new Scarecrow is like, but you can free yourself,
sweet child, with that, and has the little girl
pick up the gun and fire it and all of that.
It's kind of adorable the way you see this little
girl. She's got an energy shotgun. You know,
if you've seen as many movies as I have, you've
seen elements of this before. And she's like,
monster, bad, bad monster. And then, you know,
Robin shows up and Batman is like, Bruce and
I are going to have a long, loud talk. And it's
just absolute chaos. You know, you see the scarecrow
in the background. Of course, Jack Ryder knows
how to get into the Batcave because Investigative
reporter psychotic vigilante Used to be the Creeper.
Yeah, and they go over some sorry you're gonna
say I was gonna say and all I can think of is
when Bruce flings the the the Batarang atom is
I'm like ooh Rob Zombie meet the Creeper needs
to play right here That would actually would
have been perfect You know, they go over an old
case of bad man. They realize that Bruce traumatized
Adeline cuz you know, she like sent his dad to
jail and she was right there and no wonder she
thinks Batman's a monster and Bruce is all like
but how does that help us today? Yeah, I love
the art and the flashback. Oh That classic Batman
look I love that they did this I love that Will
and the colorists worked on this and it's so
cool and basically back to the blue blue background
with white lettering for his internal monologue
and just looks so very very Like the one panel
where where he's up front with the With Adeline's
father. He's like you snapped snaps the guy's
wrist I'm like hey it's it's Adam West Batman
but Adam West Batman with a heck of a lot less
yellow on his emblem obviously yeah I mean this
would be somewhere you know in the 90s like after
No Man's Land or something where you know he
had you see he's got the big pouch belt you know
Like actual pouches not like compressed containers
like he had for so many years and yeah, just
the straight -up black on gray bat symbol and
Clearly, you know criminal scum and he does like
the hard you know knife -edge jab to the guy
and like probably crushes his larynx or something
and You know, we get back to the right and Batman
and Robin are having their bat asses bat handed
to them. Yeah, and You see this little girl,
you know, you know We must tear them apart, child.
Rip the limbs from their bodies. Strip the flesh
from their bones. Gee, I wonder if that's a woman
underneath the scarecrow mask. I guess we'll
find out. I mean, okay, so looking at the last
panel here, and now that I see it more, obviously
her left boob is hanging down as she stands there.
Like, it's very fairly obvious that it is a woman.
Yeah, which, and the designs... not so much design
but the color makes it seem something completely
different from what we saw in the cover although
when you said you know you see the boob like
obviously there all i could think of is that
line from robin hood men and tides blanket fix
your boobs you look like a bleeding picasso yeah
the funny thing is the cover for the next part
of the uh for chat i think it's issue 23 here
um with batman and robin like inside the the
ring of the wwe or ufc or whatever the scarecrow
there is made to look male and he actually looks
like he has robin hoods tights on in this i swear
to god the scarecrow is wearing got the ref thing
going on and they're in the boxing you know just
Rocky and Apollo going at it you know So this
you know five minutes 21 seconds ago, so at least
it's not decades from now. We already know that
part So Matt's in the Batmobile. He and Bruce
have a plan. They're gonna follow the plan We
get the monsters are here the monsters are here
for the safety of those who love kill them we
get the scarecrow working on that and Like I
will say that throughout this whole arc and continuing
on to the conclusion after this this part of
the story I love how they have worked in the
target Batman and The creative into the actual
part of the art in the story. I've always loved
how DC has done that a lot of the time But they've
been really ingenious on how they do it here
Yeah, and and I love like the the last panel
with Scarecrow and the little girl and you know,
she's like, okay And then you see her they're
like smiling at it's like it's and I was like
dear god You're gonna need therapy child. Yeah
Yeah, like Scarecrow is like leading this mob
and you know, it's the entire city is basically
turned into the raid zombies from 28 days later
And they're trying to bat murder Batman I know
I will not stop with the bat puns. Yes. I am
gonna go back to Spider -Man because I'm calling
in more firepower before they destroy us all.
This is the panel where Barbara says that, where
I'm like, holy shit, Venom's on the left and
Carnage is on the right, because if you look
at Batman and Robin, it looks very much Venom.
You know that they're demons or if you're dying
the wool comic fans like ourselves you see symbiotes,
you know six of one half dozen of the other and
I like how writer and Bruce kind of break down
the scarecrows in a panel They versus like a
lot of other comics which takes like half the
bloody issue to break down a character's Modus
operandi, but they break it down you know in
basically five sentences. Yep. And then that
leads them like logically, okay, so Scarecrow
used gas, using the Batmobiles to find the gas,
there's no trace of so how now they have to concentrate
on how could the Scarecrow affect the city like
this, you know, if they didn't if the Scarecrow
didn't launch like a chemical attack, which I
thought was a really cool again in like two panels
and like less than ten sentences they formulate
a plan of attack and you know they progress the
story versus this is another reason why I like
the Batman Beyond comic is Juergens put some
real analytical thought into you know make it
exciting but make it make sense and it doesn't
seem so ludicrous like it's actual detective
work in a Batman story my god it's like Zack
Snyder doesn't know what he's doing anyway Yeah,
I get back I do like the whole Voodoo puppet
like full -on look at the scare Chris like yes.
Yes, that's the spirit You know and got the rope
noose looped around the neck like I'm just loving
this design But yeah Batman and Robin escape
you're using gas pellets because that's how they
do And we go back to Bruce and Jack and they're
arguing over You know Batman's operation That's
the word I was looking for and I Like that when
they bat like the bat will be able gets back
in bed. Hey, aren't you that guy of a TV? Mm
-hmm. It's like oh God like Robin is nothing
if not a bright shining light in the dark world
of Batman I love how you know when as Terry comes
up to Bruce is still in costume, obviously Did
I do something wrong? No, I did years ago. I'm
like, Kevin Conroy, get out of my, like, I heard
Kevin in my head as soon as he said, no, I did
years. I like, I heard a little, oh God, it's
just, oh, so much. You know, to be honest, I'm
right there with you, but after I saw Spider
-Man Homecoming and that awesome turn of Michael
Keaton as the vulture, like just, I - Sometimes
my mind slips onto the other track, and I hear
Michael Keaton's vulture voice coming out of
this, Bruce. Which works. I can't. I can't. Because
the sad thing is, all I can see the vulture saying
now is, you want to get nuts, let's get nuts.
Yeah. But we like this. We go back to the scarecrow.
Scarecrow's got some tech to turn it up, increase
the fear. Okay, the laughter's implied. Yeah,
obviously. And the cool thing about this is afterwards
we get shots of every major bet beyond character
and how the fear is affecting. And we get Barbara
Gordon, we get Dana, we get Max, only time she
shows up in this. Melanie, obviously. And Melanie's
like, what now? Because she's not affected. Yeah,
for some reason we don't know yet. Yeah, we don't
know yet But we will find out out of control
all of them like everyone but me has lost it
Yeah, and just like kill the bat grind his bro.
You know just this Wow You just don't know people
sometimes Jack goes back to the studio and he
finds Adeline and It's gonna get real interesting
real quick because batman rom they go and uh
well they're on the way and commissioner garden
has got a goddamn laser cannon yeah she does
it's the i love that whoever did it knew the
codes to the shield tournament it's a goddamn
laser cannon bruce let it go it's not like you
don't have like 50 other things tucked away in
a garage in the bat cave like be honest yeah
really So Bruce ends up getting affected so does
Maddie and Maddie is like I'm gonna protect the
city from you until you're dead and Look, the
beast is here And we have all this fight between
Batman and Robin and Bruce is starting to get
affected I like that one shot. It's it's not
venom. It's not spawn. He's just like this Basically,
he turns into like, you know Gary Oldman Dracula
from like the third act of the Brom Stroker movie
with Keanu like it's just this horrendous demonic
looking bat You know Batman's trying to hold
Robin down Robin Royally kicks his ass. Yes.
Yes. He does and then Jack finds out that Adeline's
the new Scarecrow and it's this brief moment
like you see her like she's starting to change
and it's still Adeline then she stands up and
it's literally in the space of a second so like
how did she change you know which is something
like it's almost like a creeper esque transformation
for those that know the character yep but you
know we get on Batman he loses his flight capabilities
and Looks like it's gonna be a very hard landing.
Yes, and that's how this one ends this this chapter
issue 23 I should say Wow, this story is like
It's so cool. It like I remember when I read
kind of like not the preview but like in the
in like issue 19 when they tease the next issue
i'm like target batman why would you want to
target batman what batman ever do to you other
than save you and then dan jurgens comes up with
this story and these reasons why adeline wants
to go after batman and how eventually we will
find out in the finale here in a moment how she
became what she became and it's just like oh
god it's so good Yeah, and I like This first
just look in here Will Conrad's the artist on
here and there's some shots It's not quite Some
of the shots here some of his character design
is reminiscent of another artist Leonard Kirk
who I'm a huge fan of and They both just have
this style that like it's something I would call
purely comic book Like it's just it it nails
it it gets idea of the right look the character
design the lighting the coloring it just It's
just mwah. It's so good. Yeah, it's so good and
I like even as Bruce is like fighting against
the effects of the you know, the fear wave shall
we say, you know gas can't get in here Maybe
electronics has to be like he's still the goddamn
Batman. Mm -hmm and then you know Matt snaps
out of it and it's gonna go dry safe Terry and
ten shows up and Now dance on the list is like
save her kill the demons Mm -hmm. I love the
way she came in and saved him That's one of my
favorite shots in this entire thing coming coming
in on the playing card and Grabbing him. Yeah,
love that. That's so cool. I like Bruce's like
audio visual maybe both in this day and age There's
no escaping that well, especially in this day
and age Bruce. Let's face it uh -huh you know
today or tomorrow it's you know you can't escape
you know society come back tomorrow night to
watch the Batman of tomorrow yeah you see you
know you know Terry and Mel kind of you know
reconvene and then Matt shows up to he's like
no there's only one way to stop killer beasts
like this Yeah, Matt at this point reminds me
a little normie Yeah, that's this Yeah, red goblin
Little carnage kid. Yeah Yeah, I just love that
when get back to Jack and Adeline Adeline you're
And I love that shot of Jack is like, you know
Don't even think of using your fear gas on me,
won't work. Used to fear myself back in the day,
and you get that kind of, she wouldn't see that,
but we know you're the creeper, but it's that
shocking. It's more for us than it is for the
story. It's more for us showing I used to be
the creeper. Yeah, it's still one of my all -time
favorite episodes of the animated series. Yep.
With the creeper, but yeah, so she gas was yesterday.
It's all about technology now And we go more
to the battle and we you know Terry has to save
Melanie and and This is where we get the snap
out where Matt sees his brother and not Batman
not a monster and it's the as I was reading it
it didn't feel like a quick wrap -up, but As
I'm just cycling through it. It does feel like
a quick wrap up a little I don't know Yeah bad
thing yeah, but I mean you get this whole thing
like first of all and it's something I always
asked in the Batman Beyond series How many bat
wings do they pack and other things it does it
not weigh like a hundred pounds every time they
go out? Because Matt is just it's like he's got
the god code on he's got unlimited ammo with
all the bat wings Yeah, or batarang. Sorry You
know Batman, you know goes to save Melanie pulls
the mask off, you know snaps Matt out of it around
the same time So what do they do exactly? Oh,
yeah, so Bruce basically uses the bat computer
to Hack tech and Gotham. Yep to filter the signal
and that snaps Barbara, pardon me out of it and
Bat, you know Bruce comes on and You know, he
lays it out, you know being the big damn hero
of the moment and You we get back to even writer
has been affected You know Adeline he pulls the
mask off and he spells it out for Terry. However,
she was traumatized so completely by seeing Bruce
beat up her dad and you never think about that
like and unless they write a story like this
you just Forget about it. How many people has
Batman like being broken mentally just by kicking
the crap out of their loved ones like Not every
criminal father is a complete bastard at home,
you know We like I said wrap up here Everything
is all said and done and everything's fine. We
go back to Wayne Manor where Terry basically
says, oh yeah, by the way, Melanie's kind of
part of the team now, and Bruce is not exactly
thrilled with this. We get the information from
Ryder about, you know, Jonathan Crane, the original
Scarecrow, and how someone who was an associate
of his treated Adeline with... Adeline's fears
with technology derived from Crane's work, and
obviously that made things worse. And she took
like I like how he says do use the treatments
designed to help her and weaponize them Which
is there anything ever good Comes of trying to
treat villains no not usually And the final pages
here are of Adeline in Arkham Batman demon devil
monster beast Hideous Batman Batman is a monster
isn't he? When I get out I'll be happy to deal
with him for you She I wonder who that is I guess
we'll never know until the final joke later this
year uh... so on me on the trade we get the the
uh... the cover gallery uh... the first cover
is batman and robin uh... it is done from number
twenty variant done by shane davis and will quintana
we get uh... batman number twenty one very covered
by dave johnson this is the one where he's going
down the building in japan i assume yeah yeah
and that's the one you said you liked that's
the one yeah very very cool my favorite is number
22 variant done by Dave Johnson it's basically
Batman punching through reality it looks like
it's like this this white thing with the giant
bat symbol through buildings and very very cool
yeah good well I say 21 alternate cover and 24
alternate cover by Johnson and I realize it wasn't
quite Phil Hester. This looks like Darwin cook
art You know and Darwin cook always had this
style. It's very much his work was rooted in
silver age thick lines very Not when I say stock
like just it's simple but effective in the design
like you look at the alternate cover for 24 where
Batman's standing on the bat signal and it's
like that column of light and You know, it's
just simple it's streaking, you know that sort
of thing very very cool. I Love this story. I
love the art will Conrad is an amazing amazing
artist. I love how Each one of the Batman Beyond
arcs is done by a different artist. I think that's
a good idea not necessarily differentiate the
the book but uh have an artist be able to put
his own spin on certain things um i love that
this story was fantastic i thought yeah no this
is definitely my favorite it's it's up there
in my favorite arcs since uh oh god what was
the one with damien and the sentient suit oh
jeez that's um it's a while ago But yeah that
arc in this one or two of my favorites in this
and in this series I mean, you you know us folks.
We both love batman beyond so much But in this
series alone, like dan jurgens just keeps knocking
it out of the park Yeah, it does But yeah, it's
the can't wait for the next time man because
the next time it's gonna be a laugh Yep, we're
shadowing Yes, absolutely Coming up here inside
the pull bag for the rest of Batman month Ryan
the uneven flow Merkley is going to join me to
talk about Paul Dini's Dark Knight a true Batman
story JT will probably be back to talk about
a different Joker story We're gonna head back
to Batman volume 7 from Scott Snyder's run endgame
This was when he came back and Snyder's run after
death of the family I'm not sure about this,
but we rolled in a key the comic concierge will
probably back for with me for the first uh...
tom king run which is i am goffin and then somebody
i don't know hopefully batgirl fan uh... i don't
know whoever's going to be will be on stephanie
brown backer along and one and that's pretty
much batman month for this year uh... we may
do a live top ten Batman favorite characters
kind of thing but I don't know about that yet
I may change that I'm not sure I wanted to do
that because I figured oh hey this is the you
know 80th anniversary and everything else So,
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