343 – Podcasts and Video Are NOT The Same Thing!

Hi, this is Pat Fraley, purveyor of duck, doog,

and villain voices, and you're listening to the

Geekcast Radio Network. Welcome to GeekCast Radio.

This is the 343rd episode of the show. I'm, of

course, one of your hosts, TF2, and Mike. And

joining me for the first time in what seems like

10 years, I don't remember. I honestly would

have to go back in the archives and look to see

when the co -creator of the network was actually

on this show because I've been doing a lot of

convention attention on this podcast the last

couple of years. But Steve Megatron is back.

Hello, sir. How the hell have you been? I've

been. You've been. My name is not Ben. He got

up and went. Yeah. No. No. Yes. No. That's not.

No. It is funny. That's not. That's not. That's

not something we need to carve out at all. Yes.

And Steve has been writing up a storm on geekcastradio

.com and I have taken two of his articles and

I've combined various sections of them to talk

about podcasting because why else would we have

a podcast that we don't talk about podcasting

about on the podcast, right? I guess. Pretty

much. I mean. I like talking podcasts, but I'm

a nerd. Aren't we all? So this, the reason why

I've taken two separate articles that he's done,

folks, is because he wrote up really two good

articles on geekcastradio .com. Boy, there's

another topic for another day. Why to unfollow

toxic people on social media. Oh, boy, that's

a whole other can of worms. But he wrote up,

the misnomer of video podcasts, why they are

not true podcasts, and podcast renaissance embracing

the indie roots and authentic voices. So I've

read both of these articles. Great write -ups,

as always. But I wanted to combine them to put

in my own flavor of responding to... It's kind

of like... You see, folks, back in the day, 16

years ago, YouTube used to have this thing called

video responses. And if you watched a YouTube

video, you could actually then record your own

response to that person's YouTube video, and

you could actually message them. Whereas you

can't message anybody on YouTube now. You can't

even message YouTube on YouTube because Google,

whatever. And that's kind of what this is. So

Steve's going to go through several of the points

and I'm going to just give my reaction to them.

And we're just going to have a discussion about

podcasting. Yeah. So I obviously wrote about

the fact that people don't really understand

what a podcast is. Anymore, because it's just

kind of evolved in this weird way over the last,

I would almost argue, six years. Yeah, I agree.

Because everybody's like, oh, you need a video

podcast. No, it's not a video podcast, guys.

It's it's basically a TV show. It's a stream.

It's a live broadcast or it's a, you know, a

video cast like it's not. It's not a podcast,

which a podcast is a matchup of iPod and broadcast.

So podcast. Yes. So it's it's basically, you

know, it's it's meant to be this auditory experience.

It's meant to be something you focus on and you

don't necessarily have to be watching or have

a video component. Or, for instance, like if

you've got. YouTube and you don't pay for YouTube

premium. You can't shut your screen off for a

video show on YouTube or a quote unquote podcast,

which is not a podcast. A video demands visual

attention podcasts. You can do whatever you need

to do. They were great for me. Like when I started

getting into it and when I started recording

and when I, you know, was paying attention to

all these different ones and listening and I

had a, you know, Sony Walkman MP3 player and,

uh, Worked at the car dealership and it kept

me entertained all day. But I was able to do

my job and be entertained mentally while I was

being able to physically focus on what I needed

to focus on. Yeah, absolutely. And it's one of

those things where it kind of goes back to one

of the... in the podcast approach questions over

on Serial 2009. What do you see as the biggest

differences between podcasting, listening to

podcasts, or podcasting, and being on the radio?

And the way that I've always considered it is

radio was always the legacy. It was always the

commercials, the music, the voices, whereas podcasting

is just the voices, unless you need to be annoying

and make money and put ads in there that don't

need to be in there. Oops, did I say that out

loud? Granted, we were guilty of that, but luckily

not anymore. However, and I've mentioned this

before in my diatribe on how I edit podcasts,

I would always bury those ad breaks. That's why

I created the ad break that we have at the end

of the show, is because if you have, let's say,

an hour and 30 -minute podcast, the discussion

should take up 95%. of that time, and then the

other 5 % can be the intro, the outro, and whatever

ads, if you're on a platform that requires you

to place ads in your thing to be in there. And

the same thing for me, like, you're right, absolutely.

Video show requires you eat premium or not. Most

of the time when I'm watching YouTube videos,

I'm sitting here at my computer because I'm paying

attention to whatever, like, and I'm not saying,

YouTube live streaming is a whole different animal.

I'm specifically talking about if you put out

a video version of this, and it's you looking

at the camera, talking to the camera, and it's

a recorded five -minute video, that, to me, takes

time. Podcasts, we can record 30 minutes, 45

minutes, an hour and a half. Depending on what

it is, sometimes we go longer than an hour and

a half. Top 100 countdowns, you know, that kind

of stuff. Well, I mean, those take long... Because

those are a four... That is a... The top 100

countdowns here at the Geekast Radio Network,

folks, those are literally film events. Like,

the top 100 countdowns, if you look at any of

them, most of them are six parts. Sometimes they're

five. In the beginning, I think they were five.

Whatever. The point is, that's essentially going

to half of a Marvel movie marathon. Like, we're

going to show you... Phase one, and in phase

one we have six movies. Well, that's the same

way I look at our top 100 countdowns, is each

of those episodes at two and a half to three

and a half hours long. Yes, you can still go

about your day because you're listening on your

iDevice or whatever, your Android device or your

phone or whatever, that's fine. But the point

of a regular podcast episode that covers a single

topic, Like what we're doing tonight, or like

if we do the cartoon stuff on ToonCast, or the

comic book stuff on The Pull Bag. I don't have

those shows be... Well, with The Pull Bag, it

just depends on the co -hosts I get, because

some people will talk for three hours about Transformers

comics, but I love those people. But anyway,

it's just one of those things where it's a quick...

It's a burst transmission, sort of. Not really.

Burst transmissions are usually shorter and more

frequent, but each episode to me is a burst transmission

where you have 30 minutes a week or 45 minutes

a week to check in, and usually podcasts, unless

they're specifically stated, they're either every

other week, so fortnightly if you want to use

the English term, or they're weekly. Unless you

specifically say, hey, this is going to be a

monthly show, we'll come back once a month kind

of thing. Pretty much. Yeah, so when we're doing

Altered Geek or when we're doing Studio 2009

or when we're doing any of the shows that we've

done in the last 15 and a half, almost say we're

at the half point now for 15 and a half years

of Geekcast Radio Network, it's meant to be like,

hey, here's a weekly check -in and notice folks

at the top of the show. Neither one of us said,

hey, how's the weather in your neck of the woods?

And that's nothing wrong with that, but people

want you to introduce yourselves, catch up maybe,

hey, how you doing, whatever, but then just get

to the topic, which is obviously what we're doing.

So for me, when I'm listening to podcasts, perfect

example, in 2019, right before Karen and I left

for the Pacific Northwest, we were still in Chicago.

I think it was right around that time Mike Laidman

and his buddy Chris Blonsky started up Part -Time

Nerds, Full -Time Dads. And I had worked with

Mike before in the past when we were both working

with other people that we no longer work with

that will not be mentioned because apparently

mentioning those people is not whatever. So I

was like, ooh, Mike's got a new podcast. Cool,

I'm going to check it out. They had like, I don't

know, three, four, five episodes out. I marathoned

them for like an hour, hour and a half. I marathoned

them in a day. Sat there, did dishes, ate breakfast.

Point is, like Steve already said, if you want

to marathon them, you can. You don't have to.

But because it's audio, you can go about your

day and not have to worry about it. So yeah,

I've always preferred listening over having to

sit there and watch something. Yeah, I mean,

I've... I've spent kind of the better part of,

you know, 15, 18 years, almost two decades doing

podcasts. So it's it's kind of interesting to

see how it's evolved, even though I'm kind of

not a fan of how it's evolving. But yeah, I don't

like the evolution. I don't like the evolution,

but it's more so because we're getting to this

point where it's super commercial. And quite

honestly, like it. It makes like I mean, that's

why I wrote one about, you know, the conventions

and one about, you know, this, that and the other

thing. And and it's we're getting to that point

in in the podcasting realm where people don't

really understand the medium at all from what

it evolved from, you know, when it started from,

which was basically a prerecorded. you know radio

show and published as an mp3 like it's that that

was the core of it that was the heart that was

the soul that you know i have nothing against

video shows or you know video programs in general

i don't have a lot of time to watch yep and so

like when i do i'm generally watching something

i want to watch anyway like a netflix show or

you know review content or dragon ball super

at this moment or dragon ball z i'm not watching

people on youtube plus it's a huge time suck

like i used to watch a lot of people on YouTube

and all of these different platforms. And I was

like, dude, I don't even remember where my day

went. Like, like at least I can get something

done when I'm doing audio or like when I've,

you know, I was working on my kitchen and I was

recording with, with you and Kai on, on discord.

I was able to just mute, unmute, mute, unmute,

you know, kind of set it however I wanted to

set it. And, and, and kind of. still pay attention

while I'm doing the work I needed to do. So I

understand, you know, sometimes people need the

visuals and some people need, you know, different

ways of consuming content. But there is a stark

difference between a video show and a podcast.

Yeah. And you're so right on the. I want to I

want to say it was right before I don't want

to sit here and blame. 2020. But it was right

before all of that happened. And I'm specifically

going out of my way not to say any of the names

of the thing. But we all know what happened.

But it was right before then. I want to say late

2018 throughout 2019 where all of the celebrity

podcasts started popping up. And I have no disrespect

to any of them that have done it. That's fine.

Hell, I listened to several of them. Right now,

I'm in I don't know how many years of listening

to Pod Meets World with Danielle Fishel, Ryder

Strong and Will Friedle, where they're recapping

every episode of Boy Meets World. So there is

that. And I listen to several other celebrity

stuff, but I don't listen to I've never listened

to podcasts for celebrities. I like some of the

celebrities podcasts I've listened to that I've

been able to get interviews with them. You know,

over the last 15 and a half years, we've been

very lucky to get the interviews that we've gotten.

And I can't even go down the list. Go to geekcastradio

.com, folks, and check out all the interviews.

There's something like, I want to say, 60 or

70, maybe more, that we've done in 15 and a half

years. And that's just with the famous people.

I'm not even counting the... podcast series with

the gcr and origin stuff that i started back

in the pull bag that's i'm talking specifically

celebrity interviews that we've done is at least

60 or 70 if not more yeah i mean there's that

there's there's the fact that people don't know

how to label their stuff yeah people don't you

know between terms or just you know people not

understanding that Maybe do some research before

you name your podcast. I don't know. I think

that was GCR episode 297. The podcast name game.

We did a whole episode all about that. Yeah.

But I mean, it's kind of the maintaining the

true essence and value of what podcasting is.

And, you know, there are places for blended media.

However, a podcast should be able to function

on its own without the video. And it should be

authentic. It should, you know, it should improve

gradually. You know, people can put up with a

lot of things, but poor audio quality is not

one of them. And we learned that the hard way

over the last 15 and a half, 17 and a half, however

many and a half years between the two of us.

You know, I still have that very first picture

I ever took of myself with that stupid ass headset

mic on me. uh that i bought from walmart at the

time since then i've obviously upgraded i still

buy the say if i can buy the same pair of headphones

i will i've had the same jvc uh what are these

ha 700s i've had the same pair of headphones

since 2014 but i keep buying like if they break

if they go out i'm not gonna these are the most

comfortable headphones i've ever had Whether

it's listening to music, whether it's gaming,

whether it's watching movies or TV or whatever

at my computer here, or whether it's sitting

here podcasting with you or anybody else, these

are the most comfortable headphones for my giant

-ass noggin. So, yeah, that's the thing. Like,

it just doesn't... People just don't understand

what podcasting is anymore. Like you say in the

two articles, the terminology is just like all

over the place. Yeah, I mean, there's the terminology.

There's the fact that people are like almost

elitist with the gear, which is extremely frustrating

to me because it's like saying, well, you have

no right to be in this unless you can have a

full studio or a nice backdrop or a camera. or

a soundboard or a road podcast microphone, or,

you know, it's just, it's kind of ridiculous.

So like, I, I kind of get a little perturbed

when it comes to podcasting organizations or

like, there's, there's quite a few decent ones

and it's the guys that have been in the space

forever that I trust. And like, even if I'm not,

paying for anything like out of their services

like i i totally understand and i i can get behind

what they're doing because at least they have

been in the space they understand it it's not

it it's not one of those those issues where they're

they're out to i mean obviously they're going

to make a buck but they're not like ridiculous

with it they're not out to make They're going

to make the money that they want to make, but

they're not out to scale. They're not doing it

at the expense of the podcaster. Yeah, exactly.

There you go. Yeah. And, you know, like, we've

tested. We test all the time, whether it's new

equipment, whether it's new... hosts, co -hosts,

whatever, we always test before we do anything.

And again, one of the things about audio podcasting,

just so I can differentiate it, specifically,

it is, as you say in your articles, it is recorded,

edited, then published. I have always looked

at it that way. Have we tried doing a couple

of live things over the years? Yeah, we have,

but... That gets into video and that gets into

this and that and whatever else. No, I want to

sit here, pantsless, in the dark, talking to

you people. You know what I mean? Don't imagine

that. Well, no, no one should ever imagine that.

No. But the point is, is that it doesn't matter

what I'm doing. It doesn't matter what, like,

I could be standing on my head as long as my

voice was coming out of the right end of the

microphone. It would be fine, and we could be

having a conversation about Star Wars for two

hours or Star Trek for three hours or whatever,

and it would be fine, and nobody would know the

difference, whether I'm wearing pants or not,

kind of thing. Because it's audio, and that's

it. That's all you need. You know, people try

to say that the... People have tried to tell

me in the past that, oh, YouTube videos are also

podcasts. They can be, but specifically to me,

I come from the days of, and I just celebrated,

I don't know, 15, 16 years of being on YouTube.

I think it was October 2nd of 2009 that I uploaded

my five -second YouTube video about... The Best

Buy Special Edition Batman Superman Public Enemies

DVD that came out way back then. I remember those

days. YouTube videos to me were always 10 minutes

or less. Get in, get out, do what you got to

do. If you want to do any of the primping, if

you want to do any of it, and I'm specifically

meaning, again, meaning recorded content, edited

content, and then published to YouTube. I'm not

talking about live streams. That's a whole other

animal and a whole 22nd century thing. I think

the longest YouTube video I have is probably

the most popular one I have. I think without

looking at it, I think it's at 133 ,000 views,

and it was the uploaded YouTube version of the

Dark of the Moon episode from 2011 of all things

Transformers. Oh, God, I haven't gone back to

that in a long time. But yeah, I see them as

two uniquely very different things, just like

you do, and if I want to watch a YouTube video

on a topic, I will come out here to my computer,

I will sit down, I will open Chrome, I will go

to YouTube, and I will watch that video. The

difference is that I'm, as you said already,

I'm focused on what the person is saying to me

that I'm watching the video of. Same thing, like,

if I'm, and I haven't done this in years. I haven't

just watched TV to watch TV. I don't even have

TV. Like, I just, I literally stream, I have

a television, but I stream Netflix or whatever

to it. Like, I haven't physically, like, had

cable in years. No, no, no, yeah, I know. But,

like, same. Like, I pay for internet service,

I pay for mobile service, and that's that. Like,

I don't have a cable package. I have whatever

Xfinity Comcast has on their set -top box. I

don't have an actual cable package, but when

they're like, oh, but this is free, it's the

Xfinity Stream Box. I'm like, okay, fine, as

long as you're not charging me anything for that

equipment, fine, whatever. And it's got various

things on it and whatever else, but I'm saying,

like, watching TV like we used to, where we're

just watch like you know you go back to the 90s

when we're watching cartoons because you know

podcasting wasn't around then obviously but like

you're just watching a cartoon to watch the latest

episode of your favorite cartoon whereas now

oh i've seen three episodes of this let me then

make a two -year podcast where we can go through

the whole series that's the way i think about

i think about watching stuff in the context of

What's the next podcast I can set up for? That's

how The Beast Unleashed happened. That's how

Transformation Animation happened. How all the

Transformers stuff that we've done. How any of

the reviews. And that's the other thing with

terminology that makes me so upset. All of these

podcasts nowadays, they're like, these are recap

shows. Yes, you are recapping the thing you're

watching, but you're also reviewing it. You're

giving your thoughts and giving a review. It's

a review. Oh, my God. That I can definitely say

was a 2020 term because it didn't really pop

up until all these rewatch podcasts popped up.

See, those didn't even pop up until during COVID.

Yeah, that's what I said. Because people didn't

have anything better to do. It was just kind

of like... And that's why all the microphones

and all the gear and everything went through

the roof was because of COVID. Yep. And it was

funny because I had to explain that to somebody.

And they were like, I don't understand why. And

I was like, no, like microphones that would have

cost, you know, $50, $90 were costing like $300,

$400 because you just couldn't get them. Whatever

was in stock was going and that was it. And that

was also when a lot of the elitist stuff, like

I went to a podcasting convention that was virtual

during that time. I mean, I went to a Transformers

convention that was virtual too. However, the

podcasting convention was, it was all like radio

companies that had bought up podcast companies

and these people that were like these experts

in podcasting. And I'm like, I have never heard

of any of you people. Like, I don't even know

where you came from. and I get, I don't go to

the conventions physically. Like I don't meet

a lot of these people. So, I mean, I get that,

but I'm also like, I consider myself one of the

OGs cause I've been around for almost 20 years,

but I don't necessarily gauge my success on,

you know, how much money I've made or, you know,

what big high profile podcast. No, I mean, I'm

still doing it and that's, that's where I see

the success. Like I'm, I'm also standing up for

what I want to, you know, talk about and, I don't

care that whatever the company gets bought out

and I have to switch. I've seen a lot of evolution

in how the metrics go. I've seen a lot of evolution

in the platforms. And I've used a lot of different

ones just because I've worked for different companies

that have done podcasting. And I have a grasp

for it. And what's interesting is that even during

the convention, most of the people on there were

trying to sell their product or their service.

It was not indie podcast friendly, and that's

why I also wrote that article, too, was because

I was like, it's a waste of your time. The only

thing that came out of that convention that was

worthwhile for me, because a lot of it was coming

from iHeartRadio, and it's like, dude, you either

own a TV station or you own a radio station.

It's like you're not in the podcasting space.

You want to be, and you bought up these companies

that have it, so you can say you are. or act

like you're number one in everything because

you're iHeart. I hate radio. Well, I don't necessarily

hate them, but they're not doing great financially

either. And none of these radio companies are

because they've stretched themselves too thin.

They've bought up all the competition. They've

bought up things they don't understand. It's

not like where Disney buys things up because

they understand that it's going to print money.

They understand there's going to be a hit from

the start, but they understand what they can

make from it. Radio, I get the vibe that they

just buy it because they don't understand it.

And they're like, hey, this is the big thing.

right now let's just do it and and then it bites

them later and that's why they've all been filing

bankruptcy outside of town square media yeah

well they they do it because they don't want

the competition and radio used to be competition

heavy and when i say i hate media what i mean

is the name of the company is i heart media usually

what i refer to them is it's not i heart it's

i hate Because they don't like media. They don't

like radio. They like buying stuff so they don't

have to compete with anybody. And with them doing

the podcast that they're doing now, with whatever

they're doing, I guess, I don't know. I don't

pay that much attention to them anymore. I mean,

I can do some research. Fine. But, like, as two

people that... have built up along with everyone

else that we've worked with at GCRN for 15 and

a half years. We're approaching, and it isn't

about the quantity of the content, it's about

the quality, but the fact that we're closer and

closer to 4 ,000 podcast episodes in 15 and a

half years blows my mind. That's what I'm going

to brag about, that I have a catalog of stuff.

I don't care if it's old. I don't care if it's

outdated. I don't care if it's bad. I will still

say, hey, you want to see how far I've come in

podcasting? Go back to the TFG1 podcast, episode

one. Go back to All Things Transformers, episode

eight, when Master Galvatron didn't show up and

you were struggling. Well, I kind of made the

unanimous decision to boot him about that time.

I don't know. whatever happened to him. I know

that he got blacklisted from like a Transformers

website. I don't know, but it's just one of those

things. My point is we have both come from places

where we started off having to learn this. We

started off like we knew what we wanted to say.

We just didn't have the right people around us

to say. And I told, you know, when you and I

first met on Twitter X number of years ago. I

said, hey, I have this idea. You're like, okay,

cool. We kind of went back and forth on all things

Transformers, TFG1, and then everything else

happened, and all the 15 and a half years later,

whatever, whatever, whatever. Like, we both come

from a learning experience. We didn't start GCRN

knowing everything. We weren't a huge conglomerate

that was trying to come into the space and take

it over. We were just... At the end of the day,

podcasting for me is... hanging out with my friends

for two or three hours a week, if that. In my

case, because this is essentially full -time

for me, I have more time than Steve does most

days. But this week alone, by the time you guys

are hearing this, I have recordings every night

this week. And that wasn't happening 15, 16 years

ago when I first started. I usually just did

one show a week, and that was that. But because

we've gotten to the point of, building where

we are and we have so many different shows and

I have the time on my hands to do the stuff if

I have a topic that's like literally Thursday

night October 17th I'll sit here and date this

podcast I don't care October 17th, I have three

recordings, two with one person and one with

a different person. One, we're going to record

the Halloween episode for Studio 2009, whereas

the Chaos Queen and I are going to be reviewing

Once Bitten. Once Bitten. Jim Carrey? 40 years

old, yeah. Is that Jim Carrey? Well, we'll be

40 years old next year. Now, the only reason

why we're doing it for Halloween this year is

because I don't want to wait a whole friggin'

year to celebrate the 40th anniversary. But yes,

it's Jim Carrey. I am gonna... We'll talk about

this here now, even though I'm supposed to be

talking about podcasting. Funny thing about that

movie is, I didn't see it until after I saw The

Mask in 1996. So I went back... whatever the

math is on 96, 85, 11 years. I went back 11 years,

and I was like, holy crap, Jim Carrey was an

actor before, and I knew he was because of In

Living Color, but I thought Ace was his acting

debut as far as film. Apparently it wasn't, but

yeah, Once Bitten, oh man, oh boy, that movie.

It's probably one of the only horror movies because

it's a teen... What did Wikipedia describe it

as? It's a teen comedy horror film, and the way

that I described it in my Facebook post that

I made about it, it was like, yeah, it's basically

Teen Wolf, but with vampires, essentially, instead

of werewolves. But yeah, we're going to do that,

and then my buddy Jesse Jackson, who does Set

Lusting Bruce and Perfectly Good Podcast. I'm

going to do his podcast approach over on Studio

2009. So again, folks, 30 questions all about

podcasts, listening and producing. And then he's

going to have me on his show where he's having

people pick out several Bruce Springsteen albums,

specifically one album that they want to be on

because he's doing one album for every day of,

I think it's October or November. It might be

November. It's like 30 days of podcasting. That's

the other thing with podcasting. I don't know

where this... 30 days of podcasting thing came

from, but apparently, and again, I have to do

the research on this, and maybe I'll have to

make a correction next podcast episode for this

show, but somehow, someway, November ended up

being podcaster month, because some people are

doing this 30 -day podcast challenge. So, November

1st to November 30th, putting out a podcast a

day. Now, for me, that's usually... Every other

summer. But I'm like, where did this come from?

But it is what it is. So my point in saying all

of that is, is we come from humble beginnings.

We are still humble. We still think of ourselves

as authentically indie. And yes, we are a network.

Yes, all that and everything else. And yes, we've

built up this catalog at the end of the day.

We're still two very different people that get

along. Like, I know what Steve wants to talk

about on podcasts. I'm not going to sit here

and bring him an idea that I know he has no interest

in whatsoever. Like, Steve wouldn't want to do...

Steve would not want to have done the 12 months

of Star Wars on Studio 2009, so I didn't even

ask him. I started with one person and then I

moved to a different host because the other person

and I fell out of whatever. And that's about

to wrap up. Like, you know, so the same thing

with Steve. Steve's not going to bring me an

idea that, I mean, he might bring me a fresh

idea, something new, something different, but

he's not going to bring me an idea for a podcast

show. an episode a new podcast overall whatever

and he's not gonna come to me and say hey let's

do this and i'll be like really you really want

me to go through horror movies you know me i

hate horror movies too but it would be like me

it would be like me going through and being like

hey i want you to cover dragon ball z in its

entirety with me That would never happen. Dragon

Ball Z through Super and the convoluted timeline

they're in. I know that that's not something

you care about. We play to each other's strengths.

I have this love of it, but I also watched it

on Toonami. A lot. I had a website for dragon

ball z back in the day like i i ran one and learned

graphic design through like i did a transformer

site first then i did a dragon ball z site i

ran that for more years than i ran the transformer

site and then i dropped the dragon ball z site

and then i came back with a transformer site

until we found a geek cast radio yep so i mean

i And I changed the name, and it was a lot of

learning, and I still can find stuff, provided

archive .org comes back. Archive .org went away?

You missed a lot. They got hacked by some organization,

and they ripped all of the data, like this hacker

group. And because... They were lumping them

in like they were part of the U .S. government

and they were throwing a, you know, political

tantrum. And and so in doing so, they threw this

big political tantrum and blamed them. And it's

like, dude, they're a nonprofit that have nothing

to do with the government. They were just archiving

things for preservation purposes. And so now

they're like. The archive .org part of the Wayback

Machine, the Wayback Machine, nothing happened

to it. They took it down on purpose to prevent

these bad actors from destroying it. The rest

of archive .org, it's kind of hard to know what's

still there. Podcasting has been this... up and

down roller coaster. But I mean, for the most

part, it's kind of stayed to its roots outside

of the people that have kind of come in fresh

and have no idea what they're getting involved

with. And again, that's one of the reasons why,

and I'm not just sitting here promoting for it,

but that's one of the reasons why I do podcast

approach where I'm talking to people like Steve,

like Optimus Solo, like a bunch of other people.

I think we have, I don't know, something like,

that's the shortest of all the GCN Origins series,

but I've talked to all these people and gotten

all their opinions, but there are people that

have been in the space to give those new people

the information, you know, to say, hey, here's

a good resource. If you want an hour and a half

of learning about how somebody does their podcasts,

go listen to this episode, go listen to that

episode, whatever you want to do. And I feel

like that's I think I've also hit this point

now where it's like. I've hit master status,

I need to also pass it down, like reeducate the

newbies coming in. Yeah. And, you know, I still

do. You know, I'm I'm still doing like some audio

drama work. I'm still doing, you know, our podcast

stuff. I have an idea for the bringing back the

Dragon Ball Z website idea. as the podcast, not

as a website. Cause I just, I don't want to do

that. Um, if I did, it would be like a sub site

of the current site and it would basically filter

in the posts from like, it would be a themed

experience of dragon ball with the same dragon

ball, like content from GCR. And so, yeah, but,

but yeah, I mean, I'm, I've kind of hit this

point where it's like I'm master status. I need

to pass on the information. I need to teach a

new generation. And I kind of learned that with

getting to teach some kids at a local boys and

girls club over the summer. I had to put together

a PowerPoint presentation. I had to present it.

And it was a small group. It was like 15 kids.

It's funny because I've done quite a lot of different

things in the podcast sphere, like teaching was

not one of them. But I've gotten to host a Star

Trek trivia night at Michigan Science Center.

There's been a lot of different things I've gotten

to do in the podcasting realm. And so it's been

interesting, at least this year with the evolution

with 15 years of GCRN and kind of getting to...

experience these these areas of podcasting i

hadn't been able to before yeah well and your

job is your your your job trajectory has changed

over the last 15 and a half years you know like

you said quite a bit you were just working at

the car dealership doing stuff and now you're

you're in media full -time sort of i worked i

worked at the the car dealership but i also worked

at little caesars which is why i would record

you know at midnight yep Eastern time zone. Like,

yeah, but I was up to, and I would, we would

record until like 3am or whatever. And I'd have

to go to work at like seven. Yeah. Or like where,

where Mary used to go to work at 5am and we used

to get up and record an episode at like 5am.

The, I don't, I don't, I don't miss those days.

No. Um, I barely wake up with enough energy to

move at 5am. when I have to get up and work out

so that my joints work. The only way nowadays

that I've done 4am, 5am, 6am podcasts is if it's

because I have a guest that is across the pond

over in the UK kind of thing. So if it's like

five hours ahead of our time, if it's noon for

them or 1 PM for them, I'm fine. I'm usually

up anywhere from four to 7 AM anyway, but just

cause I'm awake between four to 7 AM does not

mean I am functioning properly unless, you know,

I smack myself a few good times just to wake

up. So, or splash some water on my face. So there's

that. But overall folks, podcasting, And videos,

they're two different things. The point of wanting

to do this episode was the conversation we just

had, but also to just say that, you know, if

you need help doing podcasting or if you need

help learning how to do podcasts, we're always,

I'm always around. I can always, you know, do

the best I can, like with the audio and the editing

and things like that, whatever else. Now, the

website stuff, that's something you got to, you

know, email feedback at dcastradio .com for.

Well, and the thing is, is people need to learn,

don't always follow the trends. Follow what your

experience is, what your things that you have

a perspective on or that you know about or care

about. Like, don't just follow a trend. Yeah,

no. Because I think for a short time I was trying

to do that with even Altered Geek. Like, I was

like, oh, what am I going to cover? What am I

going to, you know? And I felt like I was constantly

chasing. Yeah. Constantly chasing. I still pull

from news, but it's more so curated in a sense.

I collect multiple things over the span of a

couple of weeks. And then I'm jotting them down,

bookmarking them, saving them. And then when...

enough things in that space you know collate

together i i end up recording on it uh to discuss

it But I am also covering a lot of, like, new

things in tech, a lot of new things in, like,

entertainment or, you know, more so the things

not necessarily like, oh, did you hear the rumor

mill on the news? No, we have never been rumor

mill. Never. Well, Altered Geek was. A little

bit, but. It started on one. Okay, yeah, it started

on one. But all things Transformers never has

been. Like, we were like. We've always been kind

of, you know, if there's a point to recording,

we'll record. If there's not a point to recording,

we don't. So if there's some great news or some

stuff we're hyped up about or some stuff that

we've got some commentary on that may not be

exciting, then we discuss it. And then if not,

we just kind of drop the rest of it and forget

about it because we don't really do the rumor

mill. I'm not going to feed that beast, you know.

Unlike certain websites that constantly are dumping

that crap on Facebook. Yeah, we are not going

to unleash that beast. After all, it's a monster

that we don't want to drink. That was actually

a great play on words. Doesn't happen very often,

but that was actually pretty good. Yeah. I can

be clever when I choose to be, even at, you know,

11 p .m. Eastern time. But yeah, folks, podcasting,

it is its own animal, it is its own beast, and

if you want to unleash it, just check out the

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We're not going to do a topic. We're not going

to do a discussion without us actually being

passionate about it. Like you said before, trends

don't help us. Not really. What helps us in the

podcast that both Steve and I do is finding the

stuff that we really want to talk about, whether

that's with each other or other people. Like,

you're more Android than Apple, right? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, for sure. So when I wanted to do an iPhone

catch -up podcast, I was not going to ask Steve,

and little did I know in episode 340 of this

podcast, Mike Powers and I spent two and a half

hours talking about the iPhone and Apple. But

yeah, that's not Steve's bag, and that's okay.

No, I loathe Apple. Like, with a passion. Rotten

hanging fruit. I hate Apple. Yeah. All right.

Coming up next, folks, I don't know. The whole

reason why I even brought up the iPhone episode

was because originally in the outro of that episode,

I was going to have Mike back on to talk about

his career being a movie projectionist because

I find that fascinating and that ties into a

whole other aspect of that we could talk about

here on the flagship show. But I don't know what's

coming up next. I don't know when the next episode

is going to be for Geek Cast Radio. It might

be a new interview, actually. Yeah, there's probably

going to be a couple of new interviews in the

next couple of weeks, most likely. So I can't

tell you off the top of my head what those are

at this point in time, but interviews will be

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