Screaming at the Sky Review

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Hello and welcome to geek cast radio. This is

episode 321 I'm of course TFG and Mike joining

me is a man who is never out of pocket He's someone

who might be screaming at the sky if he's emotionally

inclined to do so He's put up with the podcast

message that I've made over the past four years

However, I am never nervous to discuss music

with him. It is Terry Smith for music talks podcast,

which is a show that should make the entire world

smile. He is my Blackstone Cherry brother and

we can truly have it all every time we record

podcasts together. Hi Terry, how are you? I am

all the better for that intro, Mike. And I also

hadn't realized that this is episode three, two,

one. Yep. That's very good. Yeah, I didn't realize

that either until you just said it. You do realize

you're now going to have to stick around for

a long time so that we then do the Springsteen

episode, which will be episode one, two, three,

four. Got Springsteen in nice and early. I think

AI is going to take over before that happens,

sadly. Oh, and that intro folks was not brought

to you by artificial intelligence. It was brought

to you by my actually somewhat actual intelligence.

I wrote that out like 20 minutes before the show

because I love finding ways to incorporate song

titles into intros. What'd you say? I said brilliant.

uh today we are popping more cherries as it's

blackstone cherry new album time so let us start

screaming at the sky but first uh you know the

old good old julie chen thing with big brother

so the songs in between the human condition and

screaming at the sky last year you and i talked

about the live show but they hadn't i don't think

they had done the other so we've got Chris, the

lead singer of Blackstone Cherry, Chris Robertson

teamed up with Rockin 1000, which I, up until

he teamed up with them, they've been around since

2015, never heard of them at all. But what it

is is it's a, it's a thousand musicians that

do songs. Apparently they went viral way back

then when they wanted to get Dave Grohl and the

Foo Fighters. in concert somewhere, uh, but they

released, uh, how we roll with Chris on vocals.

And I love that song. So I haven't heard it.

You haven't. Oh, well, well, sorry about that.

We'll, we'll figure that out. And, uh, then we

have. Right, it was right before or right after

she passed. Originally Blackstone Cherry was

going to cover what's love got to do with it

by the iconic Tina Turner for the, for the eighth

album. And then she passed away and then they

did it as a non album single and all of the bands.

Proceeds all of what what would have paid the

four members of the band They donated all donated

all that to the the domestic violence. I think

it was domestic violence if I'm wrong in that,

you know, but I was like Blackstone cherry what's

what why is there a Tina taught a Tina Turner?

Silhouette on a black stuff. Oh And I listen

to that and I'm like, oh, okay. They do like

a cover version, don't they? Yes, they do and

Can't nobody do a Blackstone cherry cover like

Blackstone. These guys. Oh my God. Well, the,

uh, the ELO cover they did at the, uh, the gig

I went to, uh, went down to storm and it was

very, very good. I have to say. Absolutely. Absolutely.

So yes, the eighth studio album screaming at

the sky. You've told me off air that you are

warming up to this. You keep warming up to it.

How many times have you listened to it before

we sat down to discuss it? Probably about six

or seven, but actually listened to it. And by

that, I mean sitting down and reading lyrics

three. And the reason I think that's important,

one, I, and it'll probably come out as we talk

through it, Mike, and you know this from previous

stuff. I often ask my guests, are they music

or lyrics? And the answer, of course, is everybody's

both. But I do think that people tend to lean

one way or another. And I'm a lyrics guy. And

I actually think Chris's lyrics are really, really

good. They are. And I always love any music where,

you know, you've got a sort of musical thing

going on and You can listen to it and just say

hey, yeah, and you know in the case of blackstone

sherry Yeah, that's a sort of metal heavy rock

thing mentioned springsteen before you know Oh,

yeah, that's upbeat and then you know I always

love the fact that dancing in the dark probably

the biggest springsteen song is actually a song

about self -loathing People don't necessarily

work that one out so I think he's a really good

lyricist and so I've gone from This isn't this

isn't I guess my initial reaction was well, this

isn't really my thing these days But I bet it

would be great live to oh I actually like this

and as we go through trap by trap the first track

that really grabbed me was out of pocket And

again, you know you look at oh This is a song

about the as we call it in the UK the cost of

living crisis anything Oh, no, there's nothing

worse than a you know rock star sings about people

not having enough money But they do, you know,

lyrically, I think he does a really good job.

It's not preachy and it's a fantastic song. So

yeah, I'm definitely warming to it. It's not

yet made my top 10 albums of the year, but it's

probably higher up the list than I expected,

which is always lovely. Well, I can tell you.

I don't listen to a lot of like, I don't listen

to a lot of new albums unless it's artists I've

known for years kind of thing. And I'm not on

the. pulse of the new music revolution, which

will come up later. And yeah, I can easily tell

you this is my album of the year. Anybody else,

anyone else that I love that puts out a new album

for the rest of this year, this is easily the

album of 2023 for me. No, and I, and I get that.

And I mean, here's the other thing I would say

is, you know, when I went to, you encouraged

me to go and say I'm in Glasgow and I'm really

glad I did. But one of my thoughts was when you

looked at the set list, There was an awful lot

of stuff from the thing, the first two albums.

So it was like, is this a band who came out,

had a fantastic start, but now things are sort

of looking to fade away. And I think for them,

I mean, this is what their eighth album. Yep.

Um, you know, it may not be, and it may make

it into my top 10 watches space. Um, but you

know, this is an album, I think that is absolutely

going to. turbocharged their career because I

don't think there's there's not a weak track

on this and genuinely I would love to hear it

live so you know all credit to them I think their

last album was certainly for me was not of the

same quality or interest but no and the thing

I also love about it is it's 39 minutes long

it's brilliant you know I if if I was running

The world or could i would outlaw albums over

forty five minutes you know i would make musician

you're only allowed to release forty five minutes

or less of music. That's that's actually really

funny because i just saw an article on google

or somewhere something about the longest. Songs

over like the last seventy years and. I saw one

on there where it's like, how did that, I don't

even remember what it, what band it was, but

it was like, it was a 20 minute song. I'm like,

how do you have a 20 minute song that just like.

Well, you see, there's a difference because remember

I was brought up on prog rock and yes, and things

like that. So close to the edges, 19 minutes

long, but. There's only three songs on the album

and the album comes in at 42 minutes. It's on

one slab of vinyl. That's all you need. That's

just crazy. So as we're recording this, you just

missed them. They were back in Scotland. They

were back in Glasgow. Well, they also apparently

I saw played a gig down in Bristol, a club that

they played on their first tour. Um, yeah, they

were just, and I think I remember I told, I told

you about it. Cause part of the thing last time

when we just to remind the audience, when we

recorded our, uh, December show last year, what

the hell? Uh, no ceiling there, their 20th anniversary

thing. Uh, I had. told you then that, or I told

you since then. So they were at, um, they were

at the hydro. You went to that show after that.

You said, Oh, Laura was like, your lovely wife

was like, Oh, I wish I had gone with you. So

as soon as you said that I'm like patiently waiting

for the tour to update. October 6th of this year

they were at the one at the hydro they were at

somewhere else and i can't remember what it was

but literally they were just there october six

hours two days ago i didn't read yeah as of this

recording yeah yeah they were just there i was

like. I think in the matter you probably didn't

see them and i sent the message once ago no it's

fine i was like okay so you and laura you said

laura wanted to go here you go. Well, here's

a question for you. Where was the album recorded?

It was recorded in Kentucky, in Glasgow, Kentucky,

in their hometown. Yeah, it was recorded at,

I forget what the theater name is, but the reason

why they recorded it at that theater was because

the instruments sounded so good in that theater,

they said. I remember Chris Robertson. So it

was the Plaza Theater. And I would agree. I actually

think. The overall sound, the drum sounds brilliant.

It reminded me, if you go back to Led Zeppelin

IV, if you listen to When the Levee Breaks, they

recorded John Bonham's drums. They were at this

country house. So it was one of those, you walk

in and there's the massive staircase and the

double height ceiling and all of that. and they

literally put the drum kit there and that's why

if you listen to the drum sound on that somebody

described that drum sound as like um people people

dropping dust bins off the top of a skyscraper

well i think they've got that same boom you know

just oh yeah between the guitars on this and

and john fred's drums and the change in this

is They got a new bassist so john michael law

font john law font who was the original four

fourth member of the band bassist he decided

to leave after the human condition album which

is just fine that's you know things happen they

bring in from otis steve jewel junior and steve

jewel junior and bet i've said for years ever

since can i saw them in in illinois back in twenty

eighteen. Ben Wells, his name is not just, it's

bounce in Ben Wells. That kid just bounces across

the stage with his guitar and plays at the same

time. You add Steve in there now, the two of

them, they're like ax murderers with these guitars

and they're just running or like. Well, here's,

this is weird because, um, and I must give credit.

So as a guy called Andy Hawes, uh, great review

metal, plastic metal planet music. But his review

about When the Pain Comes says, starts off like

a 70s classic rock track with strong clean chords

before a monstrous riff bounces in. And he then

goes, it really does bounce. Just listen to the

way the low pedal note rhythmically bounces against

the rest of the riff. Brilliant. And the one

thing these guys have always known how to do,

they know how to do almost everything they do,

obviously, but the one thing they have always

done very well is opening and closing tracks.

You hear that opening to screaming at the sky.

I mean, it's like sitting in front of a speaker.

You get blown back. You don't have to have it

on high volume. You could just have it at a normal

volume level. And it will blow you out of your

seat. No, I agree. And, um, you know, all joking

apart and I'm, I'm actually not joking about

the 39 minutes, you know, you look, I'm just

looking now. I think the longest track is who

are you today at three 44. So, um, another thing

that I think they've done incredibly well, as

you say, they know how, they know how to store,

they know how to finish. There is a lot. Subtlety

and changes in here even though it's you know

metal heavy rock and There's not any fat is there

you know so I think they've done a great great

job of that So I think you can go ahead and hit

us with With that screaming track and we'll discuss

it okay there it is That backbeat. God damn.

The guitars, the drums, the everything. God.

Well, I said also lyrics. So I tell you what,

in amongst all of that, I mean, I just do think

it's, it's, uh, again, that review I reference,

uh, describes it as an out of control juggernaut

annihilating everything in its path and showing

no mercy. Um, but I love albums that start with

a sort of statement of intent. And musically,

you know, as you say, that great stuff is like,

you know, but look at that first verse that says,

Oh Lord, get me a witness. I need to say what

I'm feeling. We've had enough of this shit. You

know, we all need some healing. You know, there's

the album in four lines, lyrically. Oh, pretty

much. Yeah. And I mean, and I say that as a compliment.

that no absolutely it is yeah you know this is

what you're gonna get this is what i'm talking

and you know i need to say what i'm feeling and

i think he does um and yeah just three minutes

24 of greatness yeah i mean well you look at

what what all of us have gone through the last

three years three four years whatever you know

the end of twenty nineteen the beginning of twenty

twenty the end of the world you know all that

the fact that they were able to i love the human

condition go back and listen to our episode folks

i love you it's not just cuz i love them but

i love the human condition for how they were

able to. Pull that off in the middle of a pandemic

now we're sort of kind of quote unquote out of

it sort of little bit. I don't know. I still

hear several people say that they've gotten COVID

and things like that. Yeah. I think I had it

again a couple of months ago. Yeah. You had a

get how many times have not to get to that would

be three. I didn't actually test, but it was,

it was afterwards that I thought, Hmm, hold on.

Those, those symptoms I sort of recognize really.

Yeah. It's like, I've had this, this is a strange

and unwelcome feeling. And again, these guys,

they know what, what's that line from whatever,

like we're going to give you whatever we need

to give you when we think you need to have it

kind of like, you know what I mean? Like the

whole thing. And that's what these guys are.

These guys are giving us music and lyrics. tunes,

all that, when we need it and it says so. Yeah,

it talks to you. And that's, that's, that's,

and that's why I say, I think the lyrics are,

uh, are really very strong. And I believe he

also lost his father a couple of years ago, didn't

he? He lost his dad right as they were doing

human condition, I believe. Yes. So that obviously

feeds in as well, but, uh, yeah, a great start.

All right, let's not get nervous, but let's get

nervous. I love your radio intros. Wow. It is,

isn't it? See, I'm just getting to like it even

more doing this. The folks there are many things

that i can't convince him of to that i'm hoping

i can convince him of soon but. I'm pretty sure

i've talked terry into just. Loving these guys

for the most part you know there's a real lesson

in here in the. You know, I think it's so particularly

when you're as old as me It's so easy to get

into our well, that's not my thing Oh, I don't

I don't I don't like that and actually and the

other thing is really listening to stuff. So

Doing this is making me really so I tell you

what I I got in there There's two things other

than you know, I Said that out of pocket was

my the first track I'm loving nervous as well,

and I do think that has probably got everything

Blackstone Cherry Tree does in it, hasn't it?

I mean, just every box. But again, I said I'd

focus on lyrics. There's a reason why lyrics

aren't poetry. And the reason is that they get

put to music and then they get delivered in a

different way. Look at those lines of, sometimes

I wonder why, why I even try, when nothing ever

seems to change. That's how they read. Listen

to how they play and sing it. It's brilliant.

And the other fantastic couplet that is in there

is right at the end that says, where are we?

Come tomorrow when I'm older, I will be somebody's

shoulder. That is a great couplet, a great couplet.

And here's now, I'm probably going onto dangerous

ground here. Cause that is also the first song

and it happens a few times. And again, I say

it as a compliment, not that they're being derivative,

but do you know what I can, I can hear sometimes

in Blackstone cherry is red hot chili peppers.

I would have to listen to more chili peppers.

I haven't done that in a while, but I could see

it. Well, I think what it is, and I think it's

probably a compliment to the bass player. There's

that base, you know, so sort of heavy, but melodic.

And with the bass in, there's just a few bits

where it's like, Ooh, um, you know, Go and listen

to some like Californication and it's a beautiful

song, but it's then played quite heavy. So yeah,

that's the thing that came up for me. Yeah, Californication

is not as heavy as 11 out of these 12 tracks

are, but yeah, no, I can see that. When it comes

to nervous though, you mentioned come tomorrow

when I'm older, I'll be somebody's shoulder.

You know what got me? I'm not perfect i'm just

a person and i stay fucking nervous so for me.

With the way that i've lived my life being born

with cerebral palsy being the whole cerebral

part of the palsy like. I've mentioned this on

every episode we do i don't mean to do it but

i mentioned almost every episode in case anyone

this might be their first episode twenty nineteen

i had to have brain surgery turns out i was born

without a piece of my brain. I do not have a

corpus column which is the thing in the in the

back in the hemispheres which divide so having

two lakes i have a giant pool of stuff in my

head so. I've always dealt and because when i

was a kid and i didn't know any better and no

other kids in the eighties knew any better course

some kids just cruel. I got made fun of a lot.

I got picked on a lot. And this song basically

is my entire emotions from the time I was six

until the time I was probably the mid twenties.

You know, you look at the lyrics in this that

basically say, where is that? He says, I get

nervous, scratch the surface. Is anybody listening?

I feel worthless. I've felt worthless. 90 probably

I'm 43, probably half my life. Maybe I don't

know, because it just like it. With the cerebral

palsy, like how am I like, I'm not a normal person

and that's okay. But I'm not like, I can't go

out and do day labor. I can't go out and be a

police officer or any like my parent, my mom

and dad weren't like, Oh, we want him to be a

doctor. That's never going to happen. Sorry.

Like, but they weren't like that obviously, but

it's just one of those things where this song

reminds me so much of not having to be in that.

traditional, like here's a married couple. They

have a son or a daughter. They want, obviously

all parents want the best for their children,

but they want their son and or daughter, let's

say from the eighties, they want them because

that was the, the, the, the thing, but like,

I want them to be a doctor. I want them to be

a lawyer. I want them to do like the whole overachiever

parenting thing. And I listened to this song

and it just. Hits me to the point where like

I said before the lyric that sticks out is I'm

not perfect. I'm just a person I try my best

every day. I have good days. I have bad days

Yeah, everybody else and I think the stigma of

oh you should hide your bad day Like no screw

that fuck that. I'm not if I'm having a bad day

I'm not gonna go off on somebody but I'm like,

hey, I'm having a bad day or this is going on

or that's going on or I didn't say this earlier

was screaming at the sky, but there were a couple

of times when I would have bad days just because

of things that might've happened to me back when

Karen and I were living in Illinois where we

lived in, we, we lived at the house that she

was, she had owned and whatever else. And it

was like, our neighbors were like, I don't know,

500 feet apart from, from us. So like, if I wanted

to go ahead, literally I did. A few times, I

went out in the driveway and I just started screaming.

I am fully, no, I'm not kidding. No, I'm not

laughing. I mean, I think it's the genius of

songwriting, isn't it? That's what the song means

to you. I mean, I guess my only observation is

that in our different ways, we all get nervous.

We all feel worthless. Quote mr. Springsteen

again. Everybody's broken. We're just trying

to work our way through it and You know, I think

it would be easy wouldn't it to to look at Chris

and say well, there you go You know, he's a rock

star and he's doing all this and you know that

that line of I get nervous scratch the surface

is anybody listening You know who I suspect that's

a real fear for him It's interesting you look

at the first two songs and silence comes up in

both of them. So Yeah, you know, there's the

the pretense that we're all living this lovely

life is what it is, which is a pretense. So it's

I think that's why I think he's done. He and

the band have done such a good job on this, which

is, you know, serious, challenging songs and

lyrics don't have to be depressing. Exactly.

You know, and I think that's what they do. And

the more it surfaces those issues, the better,

which probably links us to. track three, which

has the jovial happy go lucky title of when the

pain comes. Yes, when the pain comes. Oh boy.

I'd like to see the pain go Terry. That's what

I'd like to see. Pain just go away. Like, come

on. Should we take a listen? Yes, sir. Those

drums are amazing. The drums are amazing and

that bass line that bottoms out before he says,

when did it get so cold in here? Yeah. At the

end of that, that first kind of chorus. Wow.

Yeah. Great. Yeah, absolutely. This is just,

they are on fire. I would tend to agree. I tend

to agree. Hey, they're just on fire. I mean,

sometimes we take it so far to find out who we

are when the pain comes. I will not be afraid.

I am here each day. If that isn't me, like, again,

I see myself in every almost lyric I ever see,

but like, you know, this and the audience probably

remembers, but the last couple of years of life

has not exactly been the greatest. Nope. Not

just because of the pandemic, but because Karen

passed and had to pick up and do all kinds of

stupid life situations that I didn't think I

was going to have to deal with and all that.

Like I said earlier, right before we started

the track was I'd like to see the pain go sometimes.

It can come, but let it go too. Yeah, but also

you've got a set of lyrics that recognize that,

but also defiant. I will not be afraid because

I am here to stay when the pain comes. So yeah,

great song. Absolutely great song. And then we

get the lead off single. So was that the first

single out of pocket? Yeah, out of pocket was

the first thing they were, it was like, Hey,

new music coming from us. And yes, out of pocket

was the I can see. Well, I said at the start,

it was the track that first sort of got me. So

I can see. So let's take a listen. There you

go, folks out of pocket. The first single off

the new album, screaming at the sky was released

a little while ago. And this song hit me like

a ton of bricks. People I would have thought.

Oh, I'm sure. Most definitely. I am sure. And

those first two lines. If that doesn't say anything

about where we were and where we are now again

going back to the fact that the band made an

album during the pandemic and now they're making

one almost out of the pandemic. I need a minute

to get over myself my system needs my system

seems to be overloading i think all of our systems

were overloaded for the last three years who

said the challenge like something challenged

very. Everybody has faced so many varying challenges

and some people are, I mean, that's what life

is, right? We always face challenges, but the

last three years, which have felt like 50, really

challenging. Yeah. Well, I keep, I'm sure I've

quoted this to you before. Um, but my, I'm going

back to my lyrics thing. Um, one of my favorite

lines ever is from Tom Waits that St says, there

ain't no devil is just God when he's drunk. Um,

and he's certainly been drinking for the last

few years. Now it's interesting. You said those

first two, my favorite two lines are actually

the chorus. Cause I think, uh, I'm tired of feeling

out of pocket. Like I've become the fucking problem.

I think you can put that on a t -shirt. Cause

I think there's millions of things like that.

And then if I put my, um, pompous English lit.

degree hat on. You've got those two lines followed

by, I got to find a way to stop it before the

fruit becomes rotten, which is an interesting

half rhyme between problem and rotten. That is

very clever, Chris. So well done. But yeah, I

just think that. And also that song is another

one where, and I promise I won't mention it again,

the leading up to the chorus, the verses, then

That's probably the bit where I went all red

hot chili peppers and then that chorus comes

in and it's like BAM Yep, and a great that I

hadn't realized that very much great single great

single in the old days Mike That would have been

that would have been a top five single in the

80s. I think At least top four hands down Maybe

yeah Most likely. Yeah, most definitely. I yeah,

I love that track. I I And it doesn't take me

out of the track or anything else, but you know

how most bands have been for the last 70 years.

They'll do music videos. Most bands will do two

videos nowadays. They'll do a lyric video so

you can find out what the lyrics are from them

directly. And then they'll do a specific separate

music videos. Sometimes music videos have a story

behind them. Sometimes it's just the band playing

the track and this, I don't understand the video

to this. Well, I understand the song. I will,

I will. As soon as you mention it, I will go

and look, but I never watch and I've never liked

music videos. Never liked them. It just depends

on what it is. I mean, if the video tells this,

like if the video is being synced to the song,

so it tells the story. But like I watched the

video from pocket. I'm like, what is the video

trying to say that I'm not getting because I

understand the song. I just don't understand

the video content. I will go and watch it and

let you have my views or not or not. Yeah. Should

we move on? Show me what it is. We are moving

on to show me what it feels like. There you go.

Every track is just it's its own masterpiece.

It really is Yeah, I mean that to me it feels

like in a good way a little bit of a change of

pace it's just a bit different and Given I've

been that's so positive about lyrics. It has

the only clunky line I think the whole album

which is you do it right you do it right clear

Patras style. I think that's a bit clunky Chris

But I love the sort of groove of the track. It

just feels that bit different to break things

up. I did notice that I think every review I

read mentioned that there isn't a ballad on the

album. I mean, there are. I would say there's

two, but... There's definitely, I mean, there's

definitely normally ballads are like, like there's

light and shade on the album, but there isn't,

there isn't like the slow song, which is fine.

Um, yeah, I just think that breaks things up

a bit. Yeah. And with this, and it's funny, you

mentioned that you say that line is clunky. Half

the people don't know what he's saying they couldn't

decipher it so i add a buddy of mine mr todd

kline he is one of if not the person that started

the cherry heads group on facebook cherry heads

is going on for years now i messaged him an hour

before the recording because i've been looking

at spotify i've been looking at every lyric website

i know to look at and they all get the line wrong.

So I have submitted a correction to AZ Lyrics

because they think it says clear cut and style.

And I'm like, no, that's not what the hell it

says. It makes it even worse if you do the wrong

thing. So Todd sent me a picture of the album

booklet with what the lyric is most album booklet,

most album book list and all, but most that will

have the lyrics of them. And yeah, so you say

it is clear pattern. Yeah it is so what's in

my lyrics on my room software right. That's good

so you look at the song it's kind of a. It's

a very fast paced rock love song it's not really

a rock love ballad or anything like that but

i. And I could be wrong, but the line before

it is I've been corrupted by you seduction made

me a fool. You do it right. You do it right.

Cleopatra style. So I think what they're trying

to say here is she was a seductress and they

don't mind it. Well, also you see, you see, you're

not especially subject to minor because if you

look at your Shakespeare and Anthony and Cleopatra,

Cleopatra did seduce Anthony and corrupt him.

And that's the reason he lost power. Yep. So

maybe it's cleverer than I gave in credit. Yeah.

I think it's just people not hearing it right.

Even though I, as soon as I heard it, I'm like,

Oh, that's okay. That's interesting. Well, don't

worry. I, um, I always remember since I've been

loving you by Led Zeppelin and for, I think something

like 40 years, I always wondered about the line

of my tizzy felt like rain. Um, and then I heard

um plant do it acoustically and realized it was

my tears they fell like rain but i spent i spent

40 years wondering what his tizzy was i probably

would have spent 40 years not wanting to know

well there is uh there is that i didn't spend

that much time i didn't spend that much time

worrying about it but show me what it feels like

i absolutely i love again If these guys like

i know some bands do this on all bands but some

bands will release instrumental i have one instrumental

versions of every album that black stone cherry

has ever done and it is never been more apparent

to me than right now because the. I don't think

i've ever heard of backing track i don't think

i've heard guitars drums and bass played the

way that they're playing and he's so fast he

doesn't turn into like a like a. you know a rap

battle or anything but the show more feels like

show me if it is like oh wow that's fast and

i really dig it it's cool it's fun no you're

right and again there is a led zeppelin connection

because when they remastered or jimmy page remastered

their albums there was then the bonus albums

on i think i'm right in saying on everyone um

you got a number of instrumental tracks which

were fascinating to listen to without the vocals,

because you just hear things differently. So

yeah, I think that'd be good. Is it time to move

on to Roar? Yes, and I was so confused. I wasn't

confused, but I was like, Roar, what are they

doing? And it's basically their way of just acronyming

and shortening a song title. It's Raindrops on

a Rose. it is indeed here we go and no tizzies

have been involved in the making of this track

It's a question for you, Mike. Yes. Has anyone

covered Blackstone Cherry songs? I think there

is a, is it Florida Georgia Line? I think Florida

Georgia Line, which is a country band, I think

they did Stay, but Stay was from 2011's Between

the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea. I don't think

anyone has, like, not professional artists that

I know. I'm sure plenty of people have put their

YouTube camera on and said, Hey, I'm going to

whatever, but I don't think so. No, the reason

for asking the question. And I don't think this

is the only song, but I could see somebody covering

that. And actually, I mean, I, I think it Well,

we'll talk about favorite songs in a minute,

but I love that song. Again, I think the lyrics

are brilliant. Rain drops on a rose and then

teardrops on a grave is just a fantastic image.

But that is the first song where I feel the need

to play a guitar along with it. Oh, absolutely,

yeah. But I could see somebody doing a very different

version of it, because I think it's a great set

of lyrics. But yeah, but I just love that wah

-wah guitar. Fantastic. Yeah, it is absolutely

fantastic and favorite lines off of this are

it's. Once again, going to my own emotional.

Some people might say bullshit, but some of my

own emotional stuff, raindrops on a rose, they're

easy on the eyes, but heavy on the soul. Like

you mentioned, two drops on a grave and all that.

Like this song is like. Oh hi Karen isn't here

anymore but she's still kinda with you sort of

not the way you wanted to be but it is like it's

very much like oh right this is like almost every

song that they've done to the i mean scrimmage

of the sky is a little different but like there's

some sort of emotional something. that I can

tie this to. Oh yeah, absolutely. And you love

your connections. Oh, I love my connections.

And remember, if it's your emotional stuff, it's

your emotional stuff. What anybody else thinks

of it is actually bullshit for them. I know.

So I may be jumping ahead here, but I mentioned

favorite. Do you have a favorite track? If you

have to pick one. We haven't gotten there yet.

Well, that's okay. We'll wait. We'll wait then.

That's fine. I said it might be tripping ahead.

We haven't gotten there yet, but I will say that

the entire album front to back, I think the only

one I don't listen to as much as the other 11

is track 10, but we will get there. But generally

from beginning to end, this album is, it has,

it runs the gamut of stuff. No, I agree. I agree.

Um, and you know, my time on it, you mentioned

my connection, you know, I always use the phrase,

I'm going to push you on. I am going to push

you on. because I've got 31 minutes. So let's

take a listen to Smile World. So if I was still,

and I might do this, but if it was still in the

days where I used to customize songs to become

my ringtone or my alarm, the chorus from that

might just get in there because I think that's

great. Um, yeah. You know, what's funny is I

still do that, but nobody calls me. Yeah. One

of the reasons I don't do that is that I don't

turn my phone on my phone is always one of the

joys of not working. Mike is that people phone

me and my view is if it's important, you'll leave

a voice message and then I'll phone you back

when I choose to, because I don't need to have

my phone on anymore. But there's, I mean, the

whole gratitude movement. Sadly, it's become

a bit of a cliche, but it's it's an important

part of my life. I love the fact that he refers

to it as like the gratitude disease, but I'm

going to make it infectious. But yeah, again,

a bit like what was it out of pocket, you know,

that is the positive uplifting song without being

preachy. And it's just great. I mean, it's just

a great riff and a great chorus. Well, so yeah,

absolutely. Couple of things. Number one, I was

the first person. So this is what I mentioned

earlier about lyric video and actual video, whatever

else they put the lyric video out. But the album,

like it was when it was this, cause smile world

was the yeah, it was out of pocket, nervous than

smile. Yeah. Smile was the third single. So they

put the lyric video out once they released the

single. None of the lyric website the A to Z

lyrics, which is my favorite one I'll say oh

these lyrics will be posted once the album releases

blah blah blah blah blah I went through and I

transcribed all the lyrics I submit I actually

have my TFG one of my these lyrics provided to

us by blah blah blah Well done. Yeah, so this

song is One of two that I know of that they've

done this with back in 2018 when they released

the Family Tree album There's a song on there,

My Last Breath. Their video for that song is

they asked their fans, because that's one of

the number one things with this band is because

the fans do so much for them and they do so much.

It's a whole circle of life kind of thing. And

back then they asked the fans, tell us in a video

or whatever, a photo or whatever, what you would

spend your last breath on, because that's the

point of the song. Right. But this one, they're

like, tell us world. What makes you smile? And

again, I think I had messaged you and said, Hey,

you and Laura should get a video in on this so

you can be in the video. It's okay. It's fine.

It's not that big of a deal. Missed opportunity,

whatever. But the video for this is another one

that I will suggest to you to watch because it's

everybody. Over multiple social Instagram, Facebook,

like whatever makes them smile that again, going

in with the lyrics of smile world, start living

all this and all that line. Yeah. Oh, they have,

they have wonderful ideas. Uh, okay. So, um,

by the way, I'm, um, I'm almost as bad at reading

my messenger as I am at answering my phone. Seriously,

hell, you know, and you'll have to forgive me

if I ended up becoming persistent in a couple

of years. The only way to get through to me is

the only way to get through to me. I know. So

three lines off of this one that I love. The

last line is more of like, Oh, more of like a,

wow, they just made me think with the first two

are. It's your world, start living, one life

is all we're given. So one life is all we're

given. We just have to make the best of it, smile

world, all that. And then the line that jumps

out at me, because I've been wondering about

this a lot lately in the last couple of years

is... So, you know, 15 years of podcasting, I

guess I'm leaving that behind. Yep. You know,

I've got, you know, the family members that I've

had, I've got the experiences that I've had or

whatever else, but it's not like I'm passing

anything. I've said this to you before. I've

said this to the audience before with the cerebral

palsy. One of the reasons why I don't have kids,

I don't want any kids to go through what I went

through 40 years ago as a kid. You know what

I mean? So that's why it's so like. what will

you leave behind? It's like, Oh, but no, I love

this song is so in quite literally infectious.

And it's like, yeah, like start, smile world,

start living, like, let's go. And all I would

say, Mike, is that over the next 23 years, the

question about what will you leave behind will

become a much bigger question. It's actually

one I enjoy, um, and mortality and all of that.

But yes. Yeah, another great set of lyrics. Yep.

On to who are you today? No, on to the mess you

made, which I guess I just did. You know listening

to that one of the things that hit me was because

I think again if I if I say heavy rock metal

one of my things would be yeah well it's a bit

repetitive isn't it there is they've packed so

much in here I mean I just looked at the time

in there I think in the first minute you've got

like three big musical changes and then even

at the end that last sort of three seconds isn't

just an ending they've done something to it so

Um, I don't want to say this because I'm going

to say it, but I don't, I don't say it to be

negative of the band. I don't know what instrument

they're using. I don't want to call it what I'm

going to call it, but I'm going to call it that

anyway. When he says the last of the look at

the last line of look at the mess you made. I

feel like they auto to it's not auto tune. But

there's something they've done. It's vocal, vocally

processed or vocal processing. Yeah, they've

done some. I love it. Well, that's what I'm saying.

The fact that they've done it for like three

seconds shows real attention to detail. Yeah,

absolutely. Lines off this that I caught up and

lost my love. Now there's nothing left of us.

Karen and I didn't lose our love. in the traditional

sense of a breakup song, but essentially the

mess you made is a breakup song. That would be

my reading. Yeah. And the only other thing that

I've got is that review I mentioned. So I'm thinking

this is high praise is that the bass is described

as, what does it say? Lemmy opening with some

very Lemmy -esque bass. Yeah, these guys have

like their, their roots and their inspirations

are just all over the place. And that does not

surprise me. And like I said, the addition of

Steve Jewell Jr. As the second, or I don't say

the second, but as the bassist guitarist, whereas

Ben is the other guitarist. It's just added so

much flay like. I love all their other albums

for the most part but this album the reason why

it's so special is because you've got somebody

brand new to the band who has come in here like

a wrecking ball and really just knocked it out

of the park like he's been there for the last

twenty years and he has been only been there

for a couple years. What's interesting is that

when you've had a band that have been around

for a fair amount of time and so stable. then

to lose a member, you know, one of two things

happens. Either it's really damaging or somebody

else comes in and it really gives them a kick.

And you're far closer to this than me, but it

feels like, you know, he's definitely given them

a kick. Oh, he definitely has. And by the way,

on Lemmy, um, I saw Lemmy when he was the base

player in Hawkwind. Wow. And by the way, he then

got sacked from Hawkwind for taking too many

drugs, which Hawking with the drugiest band there

was so to get sacked for taking too many was

just incredible But he then went on to do this

motorhead thing that was quite popular. I believe

They think it had some lasting effects for a

while So now we go to who are you today? That's

the nearest to a long fade out they've had. It

must have been two seconds. Yeah, pretty much.

I don't know who I am today. I don't know who

I was yesterday, and I don't know who I'll be

tomorrow. But man, that song. Well, there's two

things in there for me. One, going back to your

earlier comment about what you leave behind,

the line, money fades while memories stay is

pretty good advice. as far as I'm concerned.

And the second thing is, and you will know, I

do my Christmas show with Stephen Routledge to

choose our albums of the year. And in fact, I'm

seeing Stephen tomorrow for a catch up, but Stephen

loves his metal. I mean, really heavy metal.

And so there's always a metal album and it almost

always has screamo vocals on. And I just don't,

I can't do screamo vocals. However, Who are you

today is sort of screamo lie and I really like

it So besides anything else Mike you've enabled

me to turn up and say to Stephen tomorrow Maybe

I see a place for screamo, which he I think he'll

fall off his chair, frankly I will send you cause

they uploaded. Um, I don't think they've done

a video for it yet, but they, if they uploaded

all the, the, the music visualizer, whatever

they do on YouTube, I will send you who are you

today? So you can send to Steve and you'd be

just be like, listen to this and no, I kind of

understand it now. Yeah, I, uh, I get it. So,

um, yeah, that's good. This isn't it. That's

good. Favorite off of this for me is years ago,

there was a top 40 station that rebranded as

997 WDJX Louisville's new music revolution. So.

Listen to a new revolution. As soon as I was

like, before it's watered down and it's all convoluted.

I'm like, he's talking about the music industry.

He's probably not. That's just my interpretation

of it. Let's take a listen to the new revolution

before it's all watered down and it's all convoluted.

They're probably not talking about that, but

that was my interpretation. Cool. And then favorite

line, uh, reflections change, then fade away.

So who are you today? Basically, you know, who

are you? It goes, I'm actually, you know, we

talk about, uh, you know, you pulling the Bruce

card. I'm going to pull the Jesse Jackson card,

Jesse Jackson, our good friend. He believes,

and I, I kind of believe he's still got it. Got

me some convincing to do, but every point in

your life, you're you change, you evolve, you

grow, which you do, but. I still affirm that

I'm the same person I was 20 years ago than I

am right now, even though things have changed.

My mood has changed, but my core is still my

core. But Jesse is like every step of your life.

It's a different part. It's a new part of you.

So the question here is who are you today? Who

are you going to be today? What kind of person

are you going to be? So I thought, you know,

reflections change and fade away like, okay,

I get it. They're going for the jugular and they're

going to go for the jugular even more later.

So that is probably the subject of another podcast,

but I'm just trying to think. Let me get this

right. So there is a brilliant poem called Hokusai

Says. And in it, it says, keep changing. You

just become more of who you are. Which is a line

I've always liked. That is a good line. But yeah,

I suspect Jesse also is being inspired by Mr.

Springsteen, because one of my favorite interviews

is when he turned around. And so he's certainly

subscribed to that view that says, you know,

what you have to recognize is that when you get

in a car, So if you, if you take car as an analogy

for life, you know, when you get in a car, all

of the various versions of you are in the car.

And then he looks and he says, you just need

to make sure you've got the right one driving.

I've always liked that. I've always liked that.

And it's funny you bring up that analogy because

with the cerebral palsy, I've never been able

to drive. I've always been the Miss Daisy. So

Well, driving inverted commas then. Now I'm getting

really curious because we still haven't got to

your favorite track and there's only three left.

I'll play Not Afraid. You're not jumping at that

then. So let's play Not Afraid. What are they

doing? The ending notes to the last, what is

it, two tracks, two or three tracks? It's like,

it's so good. It doesn't just fade. It just like,

oh man, what are they doing? Disappears into

the, it's brilliant. It's brilliant. And again,

that's, that's the joy of doing proper listening.

I think you just notice things. There was a trap

before I meant to say we're listening on headphones.

You can hear that the drums, you can hear them.

hit hit and then echo. But yeah, another great

thing. And what a way to start. Lyrically, I

got two feet in a world full of landmines, which

is a great image. And sometimes love turns into

a landslide. Yep, loving it. Loving it. Yeah,

absolutely. Yeah. The thing that stood out to

me was I'm not afraid of life without you. And

by the way, I wear my heart, my scars across

my heart. Again, I'm beating a dead horse here,

but yeah, I was kind of afraid of dealing with

life without Karen. But still, you know, yeah,

where I was two years ago was at the point of,

Oh crap, what am I going to do now? And I just

had to, I couldn't, I couldn't stop like, You

go through any traumatic experience. You just

want to stop and feel your emotions or whatever.

Well, I had to find a new place to live. I had

to do this and do that and do all this stuff.

I had to do all the adult stuff that you have

to do when you're a single person again and you

don't have the person that you're supposed to

spend the next 50 years of your life with anymore.

And two years later, I'm still, I don't want

to face this life without her, but there's nothing

I can do about it now. I guess I'm not afraid.

I don't know. I just like that line. It's a good

line. No, absolutely. And, you know, one of my

favourite phrases, my wife uses it a lot, is,

this will pass. But also the fact that when you

have a loss, you know, you have a loss like yours.

I remember a friend saying they'd lost their,

they'd lost their wife. And, you know, the phrase

was, it doesn't get any easier, Terry, you just

get better at handling it. Yeah. Which I thought

was very honest and truthful, and I suspect the

reality, so. Yeah, I have good days and I have

bad days, just like anything else, but like,

yeah, it doesn't get easier, but it gets more

manageable. Yeah, sometimes. So we're now down

to two tracks. Last two. I've been hopeless all

my life, buddy. No, you haven't. Yes, I have.

This is my anthem. This is my anthem song for

the last 43 years. Fades on this album. Oh my

god So I'm guessing that's your favorite track

It's yeah, probably number one because like I

said at the beginning, you know You've said this

to me. Jesse has said this to me other people

in my life Mike you faced so much adversity.

Yeah, I have and yes I still hold out hope because

what else do I have other than to hope for the

best? But when I heard this song, I'm like, okay

the line of Here's to the hopeless though the

ones that were chosen last or but like in kindergarten

and element I was always the last kickballer

to be chosen. I don't we you know, you watch

any of those movies with the bullies and the

and the whatever is all the Punious scrawny is

kid. Oh, we don't want him on our team put him

on you I was always the last one to be chosen

kind of thing But then I look at this and I'm

looking at it. I'm like, uh -huh Okay, I see

it Now, I will say that my mom was Roman Catholic.

She eventually went Baptist in the nineties,

but I've never really been, uh, my previous stepmother,

uh, in the nineties when I was living with my

dad and my stepmom in Kentucky, they basically

told me I had to go to church. If I go to church,

I would get grounded. Never had. It's not that

I don't have my own personal relationship with

God. I don't like sitting in a country. Yeah,

pretty much. Yeah, it's pretty much I don't I

don't need that thing to know that I have so

when they release a song with the line of Here's

to the hope, you know, here's to the hopeless

remind, you know When Karen and I got together

the biggest thing was we were always big believers

in each other we were always supported just like

any couple should be. Always support each other

not no matter what but in most times always support

each other kind of thing and and this song just

like rips into my soul pretty much well I absolutely

get why connects with you my only pushback will.

will be this, which is you did say, I hold out

hope. And if you hold out hope, you can't be

hopeless. Well, that's true. I have no hope.

But here's now I was thinking about this and

thought I really value our friendship. So do

you really want to say this to him? But I'm going

to be brave, Mike. So we told daddy that there

isn't a ballad on the album, but this is probably

the closest to it. And I mentioned about people

doing cover versions. Do you know who I could

see doing that on the next album as the big rock

power ballad? Adele. You may not talk to me again.

You want to know something crazy? What is her

song, The Deep? Rolling in the deep. BSC covered

it. So if she was to cover this, your joke, I

didn't realize. No, I'm not even kidding. Yeah.

Honestly, I think that is a brilliant, I mean,

a great version from them, but that is just the

classic rock power ballad. Um, fantastic chorus

and everything. So, Hey, who knows? Maybe we

should just pinger. Hey, are you looking for

a new cover of a song that you might not have

thought of? This might fit in here. This might

go deep in your whale house, Miss Adele. She's

covered Dylan. She's covered. She's and she's

got a fantastic voice, but it's a brilliant song.

No, I love the song. And even though it is a

salute to the hopeless and the broken and it's

still a powerful, even though the third of the

song is here's the hopeless. Like I said, I still

hold out hope. It's still giving me hope. Like

right now I have lifting, even though it's challenging.

Yeah. And that's, that's the good thing with

this band and with any band that decides to do

something like this with Blackstone cherry, they've

always wanted to be that uplift. Like, yes, put

a message in the song, but be uplifting, be positive

when you can don't be the, the negative side

of rock. Don't be the. let's just do drugs and

yeah and that comes across when you see them

live that they are there to give you they are

there to give you a great experience but as you

said before it doesn't mean you can't write and

talk about serious challenge and stuff but still

have positive message and i guess that's a lovely

link to the final song isn't it because the final

song title and messages you can have it all which

that's good news isn't it yep here we go I swear,

John Fred Young is the energizer bunny of drummers.

It just keeps going and going and going. Absolutely.

Absolutely. A great, great, great way to finish.

And, uh, I say, uh, lovely message. I love the

line of, uh, well, two lines. Remember the leap

of faith is bigger than the fall. And then the

other one is, um, first steps were the first

steps are much bigger than we know. And you mentioned

it before, you know, I think back to. Finish

and recording being a guest with Jesse and go

in have you got five minutes? To talk to him

about podcasting and little did I know how significant

that little step was So yeah, great great way

to finish and it's probably Nearer my top 10

albums of the year than it was an hour and a

half ago Mike. So thank you If I was to pick

a top three off this album, just songs on their

own, most definitely it would be, uh, show me

what it feels like. Yeah. Yeah. Show me what

it feels like. Here's to the hopeless and you

can have it all. Yeah. Okay. I'd probably, um,

I'd certainly have out of pocket. Uh, I think

I'd have here. Here's to the hopeless and Oh,

Probably nervous. But I'll let you know when

I've listened a bit more, but thank you so much.

It's been an absolute delight. Absolutely. Absolutely.

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on geek cast radio. This is episode 321 and If

we get to one, two, three four, of course Terry

has to be on it Now that you said that thanks.

You've cursed me. Uh -huh Of course, I am a podcast

machine and I you know if I said oh by the way

Terry in a year and a half Oh, by the way, we're

up to a thousand twenty You and Jesse. I just

don't know No, Jesse is war. Oh my I was editing

stuff for him for a while and he's like, like

he's twice my age. I'm like, how he just fit

as of the, as of this episode, folks, Jesse just

in September, just finished up 30 straight days

of recording, releasing episodes for set listing.

I'm like, how, how did you do that? How did you

do that? Oh my, he's more of a podcast machine

than I am. So Terry, tell everybody about your

lovely little show music talks podcast, please.

So music talks is a show where I get a guest

to choose a song from each decade of their life

and basically taught me through why those songs

are so important to them and Therefore we get

a lot of music nerdery, which I love but we also

get a lot of life stories, which is another passion

So yeah, it's music talks podcast. You can get

it at music talks pod calm or on any of the major

apps. There is certainly more than one Music

Talks now. So if you haven't any trouble finding

it, just search on Music Talks, Terry Smith,

and that will get it. Thank you. So when did

the other one start? Because if the other one

started after you started yours, then you can

go to them and say, hey, you need to change your

title. It's too hard, too hard. Brother, let

me tell you. There have been plenty of times

where people are like, Oh, we want to do all

things. Nope. Steve mega, my buddy, Steve mega,

trying to start at the GCR with me. Nope. We've

had that since 2008. You can't have, you need

to figure out a different name. We will fight.

I've got it. I've got to tell you, I had, um,

uh, on Facebook today, cause I just, all of that

stuff just gets us safe for me too hard. Um,

but it popped up was a post about someone selling

tickets for Taylor Swift in Edinburgh next year.

And I would like to see Taylor Swift live. I

actually think she's very talented. Um, and I

looked at it and I thought, yeah, this is a scam,

isn't it? But I'm going to respond just to see

what I get. And here's the genius of what they're

doing. They're selling tickets in section one,

two, five, uh, row one seats three to six. Do

you know the slight problem with that, Mike?

There is no, there is no section one, two, five

at Murray field. So I'm currently just playing

them along and having some fun with them. But,

uh, yeah. Boy oh boy there we go there we go.

I don't know what Terry and I are gonna do next

I'm sure at some point or another it'll be another

Blackstone cherry thing or if I can convince

him to do certain other things on his own lovely

show It might be that who knows But we have this

week this episode. We've got the next step We've

got 321 322 and 323 all coming up over the next

three weeks As you've heard in this episode,

Terry Smith and I gone through Blackstone Cherries,

Screaming at the Sky, eighth studio album. Next

week, I didn't, didn't, I planned this after

the fact. Next week, Jesse Jackson and I are

going to go back 40 years ago to 1983 when Daryl

Hall and John Oates released Rock and Soul Part

One. So there's going to be that. And then, uh,

in episode three 23, Steve Megatron is going

to make his triumphant return to Geekcast radio.

And he's going to, we're going to talk about.

Being upset, we're going to talk about the whole

concept of being obsessively compulsive geeks.

So obsessive compulsive geek disorder, because

we have a lot of geeky disorders. So that's O

-C -G rather than O -C -D. Oh, that's very good.

That's very good. Yeah, it's O -C -G -D. So it's

just another way to say, God damn it. You're

the man who put G the G into OCD. Absolutely.

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Thank you for listening. Until next time. I need

to dash and go and watch some very important

soccer. Please tell me you had that recorded

because I need to use that line everywhere now.

It's recorded. I'm going to go and watch some

football, mate.