The TFG1 Podcast
Five Faces of Darkness Part 1

About this Episode
This is the 17th episode and after the epicness of Episode 16 Mike needed a good laugh. He gets that from his friend a cohost Michael Wilson. Where the duo go off on several rants and very disturbing subjects. They review The G1 Season 3 opening story 5 parter Five Faces Of Darkness, as well !!
Geeks:
Steve "Megatron" Phillips
Mike “TFG1" Blanchard
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Hey Mr. Wilson! Hello and welcome to the 17th
episode of the TFG1 podcast, recorded June 5th,
2009. I am your host, Michael Blanchard, and
joining me once again is... Michael Wilson. Hello,
and yes, we're going to be getting into some
general chat. Yes, hello and welcome to the TFG
one podcast. I almost said tune cast. Oh my god
I have too many podcasts going on coming up We
are back from our two -week hiatus Steve is not
back yet from his honeymoon I don't think but
we are recording episode 17 and with me is Michael
Wilson. Hello, Michael Yes, Michael is feeling
under the weather a little bit tonight So if
he if he sounds nasally or if he hacks up a lung
or you know His nose comes through the podcast
recording just ignore it and mop it up He's not
feeling too. Well. We he is a trooper We're gonna
go ahead and get episode 17 out of the way. We
actually have a lot to talk about In general
chat here. There's been a lot going on with me
over the last two weeks while we've been on hiatus
Steve and I have officially launched geekcastradio
.com it's currently at bare bones type of stuff
but there is some content on there eventually
once we get majority of everything transferred
over all of the podcast content will be there
the new network as most everybody knows is geekcast
radio network we currently have I believe six
or seven shows we're going to be doing Yes, I
know we're nuts. Yes. Yes. I know we're nuts
I just recorded tooncast episode 0 and episode
1 last night I've actually been on several other
podcasts in the last two weeks. I guest hosted
on episodes seven and eight of Transformers Animated's
Smartcast with GeneralTechno, Scaly, and a few
other people from TFW. Not the main TFW podcasting
people, but some of the other TFW board members.
Let's see what else is going on. I finally got
my 2G iPhone sold. oh god it took me six times
and probably about sixty dollars worth of ebay
fees to get the damn thing sold but i finally
have upgraded to the three g and i love it yes
uh... let's see what else uh... episode sixteen
of the tfgone podcast uh... a lot of people are
alike including uh... Some idiot in Indiana said,
why can't you break it up into two episodes?
Four hours is too long. It is the... Long ass
episode. It is the... But it's the 1986 movie,
come on! I'm seriously thinking about re -editing
the whole thing. I don't think so. Into a conversation
format. I don't think so. And two separate episodes.
I do not think so. in trimming the majority of
what you have to say the second or third time
around. How many times do I have to listen to
you say, oh, this was my favorite part of the
episode. I'm like, oh, come on, I've only heard
this eight times. Yeah, so that all needs to
go. But you can't do that, because you have no
rights to it, and I can file copyright infringement
on your ass. He will have a you'll have a two
hundred fifty thousand dollar fine from the FBI
This all isn't open source But um the way I look
at it is okay. I've got 24 episodes of the podcast
Not including the six supplementals that I did
It's the only one that's gonna be that long I
mean most of the other ones are anywhere from
30 to an hour and you know 30 minutes to an hour
and 30 minutes So, you know What's one 3 hour
50 minute 3 hour 58 minute episode out of 24
that you know I mean it's not like it's gonna
come along Every single episode is gonna be four
hours It's justifiable in this case And the other
thing, and I've said this before on All Things
Transformers, the other podcast that I do with
Steve at this current present time, you know,
if I was able to schedule it better, to have
everybody that I had all in one clip, I would
have. But that Mike Dodd clip, that was recorded
in like February. uh... that's where the magic
of the editing comes in. Yeah, I know. Well,
I don't edit that much. I leave all that to Steve.
I just cut out some stuff and I can re - I really
can't rearrange anything, so I just kinda like
trim stuff down and stuff, but yeah, I don't
do any editing. I do all the recording. The recording's
my job. The editing is for the segment monkeys.
It seems like what did he just call me? Well,
he knows I've said it before The other thing
that we need to bring up that is g1 related is
the fact that shout factory Has been tapped by
Hasbro and most people know this has been tapped
by Hasbro for transformers g1 DVD releases they
are actually releasing the 25th anniversary season
1 on the 16th I believe yes Tuesday the 16th
a week before the Revenge of the Fallen opens
the more than meets the eye bare bones 3 episodes
DVD is coming out September 1st season 2 volume
1 is coming out September 15th I believe and
they just updated the Matrix of Leadership collector
set with a lot of pictures and they look so friggin
cool I cannot wait to get this set will be $140
which I can justify it because it's it's first
of all it's it's generation one for Christ's
sake I mean if you're not a G1 fan that's fine
you know maybe you want to wait and pick it up
somewhere else but I'm definitely not gonna be
waiting for this because I don't want it to end
up like the Rhino sets ended up being out of
print and then having to spend three to nine
hundred dollars on them on eBay that's crazy
Yes, so I cannot wait till this comes out. It
is currently available for pre -order. I believe
it's, I think it's off the top of my head, it's
transformerscollectorset .com, I believe is what
it is. Let me actually go there really quick.
So what's been going on with you, Michael? We
haven't heard from you since episode 14, I believe.
Was it 14? Yes. Well, you were in 16, but you...
I'll tell you what's happening, and this is something
that's really weighing heavily on my soul right
now, is that I'm missing BotCon. Yes, I know.
Oh, it's killing me, and I'm waiting anxiously
for all the news to come out. In fact, I was
wondering if the Shout Factory news was actually
something that was dropped at BotCon. I mean,
I just hadn't heard about it yet. I believe it
was. I know Shout Factory. I don't... I don't
know what day they're doing the film festival,
but I know that Shout Factory, um, is doing,
um, is hosting the film festival this year at
BotCan. BotKeyon? Okay, what the hell was that?
Uh, Keown? Keown? You're channeling Bruce Lee.
Yeah, huh? Yeah! Bitches! Um, I know... I know
for a fact that Transformers Animated has been
cancelled. Unfortunately it has. And that's because
of the fact that Cartoon Network is now probably
not going to be a Cartoon Network anymore, since
they're going to be showing all live action shit
coming up this summer and fall of next year.
Thank god, thank god the boomerang, oh my god.
If I didn't have boomerang I'd go nuts. Okay,
going back to the G1 set really quick all 98
episodes restored 37 hours of generation 1 entertainment
also includes Autobot and Decepticon magnets
Packed with bonus features including a brand
new interview an exclusive feature its concept
art archival has brought toy commercials printable
scripts and collectible 60 page booklet um...
where is... well I'm on the website here where
is the one... where's the thing that says...
oh wait it was in the TV shows on DVD thing I
think I hope um... they're... they listed all
the voice actors that are gonna be in the voice
actor panel the eight voice actors which includes
Frank Welker um... they listed it and now I have
to find it so I'm waiting for the website to
load They can't get the guy to come in, but he'll
show up for the DVD. Okay, here we go, here we
go, here we go, here we go, let's see. Okay,
here we go. Exclusive voice cast reunion featuring
in alphabetical order. Jack Angel, Ramjet, who
also played Astro Train and Omega Supreme. Michael
Bell, Prowl, Greg Berger, Grimlock, Arthur Burg,
Burghart, Devastator. He might have done Jetfire
2, it's only listening a few of them. Corey Burton,
Spike, Witwicky, which he also did Shockwave.
Richard Goddard, who did Rodimus, Neil Ross as
Slag, and Frank Welker. So no Peter Cullen, which
kind of makes me upset. You would think that
they would include the guy that did The Voice
of Optimus, that pretty much, you know... Include,
you know pretty much defined who optimist prime
is. I mean you think that they would include
him in that I should say Peter Cullen has been
Stretched rather thin lately. I mean he's doing
a lot of stuff. He's a busy guy And on the other
hand, I'm sure you know, Frank Welker is a busy
guy as well But at the same time You know, I've
seen Peter Cullen a few times I've never seen
and I understand that but I mean the Rhino sets,
okay, the They were the last US real release
that we've had We've never had a complete series
in the US of G1 and the entire G1's Rhino sets
had nothing with Peter Cullen or hardly anybody
else as far as voice actors. They had Neil Kaplan
from RID. Who the fuck gives a shit about Neil
Kaplan? Give me a fucking break. Optimus Light
he is not, bastard. So anyway. You know, I say
one thing about Stan Bush and everyone's like,
oh my God, look what he said about Stan, and
you're like, fuck Neil Kaplan, I'm Neil Kaplan
can suck on my wiener. It's like, whoa, dude,
dude, my God, this is Neil Kaplan, man. I don't
care. He's not, he's an Optimus Prime ripoff
is what he is. Oh, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes, moving right along. this set looks so so
awesome i cannot wait uh... if you go to the
transformers collector set dot com uh... it shows
like a little uh... looking for it's like a little
banner where it's got uh... all the things i
just read it's got a pre -order button but in
in the front of it shows how the how the set
opens it is so cool Yeah, it looks super nice.
I mean if you're a if you're a generation one
fan Excuse me, and you grew up on this cartoon.
You're going to want to get this set regardless
of the hundred and forty dollar price And moving
on to some general someone general chat Stan
Bush and the touch the the new uh... i gotta
say after i watched it the first time i almost
wanted to go over my computer and that isn't
it has nothing to do with stan was it this was
it the uh... the smiling guitarist who's like
uh... no it it had nothing to do with staying
uh... most people know and i believe i've said
this before i am not a person that grew up on
rap music I'm just not. It's just not my forte.
I don't like it. I respect rap for what it did
for the music industry. And I mean, I'll admit,
I do like some rock rap groups, kind of like
Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, not all that much,
but I do like some of that stuff, but just straight
up gangster rap, I do not like. I cannot fucking
stand it. no i know but that's he was shooting
for lincoln park because lincoln park yeah first
no and i know that's what he was shooting for
he actually told me that's what it was almost
it was going to be kind of like lincoln park
ish if it did not have the rap chorus in it and
just had him even though the voice was a little
strained if it just had him doing doing the slow
southern style rock i could actually stomach
it better What was I gonna say? Imitation is
the most sincerest In the sense that he's I don't
know flattering the soundtrack that came before
him but I think that I Don't want to say well
it really didn't need changing because it's you
know the fact of the matter is it it's a 25 year
old song and it probably Could have used a little
update, but not in this way somebody on Twitter
And I apologize, I don't remember who exactly
had said this, but it said, uh, you know, this
is not your father's Transformers. And I had
replied and said, no, this is the Transformers
that grabs his crotch for the high notes. Yes,
that's kind of like your private message you
sent me about Michael Bay. to share that. Anyway,
I know you love bringing that up. I don't know
what it is. It's so freaking funny. Every time
I go through my direct messages and I end up
looking at that, I'm like, oh my god, I cannot
believe he said that. And it's not even about
the Michael Bay part. It's about the Starscream
part. I care less about Michael Bay part. This
harkens way back to episode 14 in Starscream's
indiscretions with the giant metal bug laser.
All right, anyway, let's not get into that now
yeah, I as much as I really really like Stan
and For some people that don't know he does have
more than two songs I know the majority of the
I know a majority of the fan base only know the
Touch, the 1986 version, and Dare, but he does
have other good songs. I'll Never Fall, his single
off of the In This Life album from 2007 was really,
really good. He actually redid his Ground Zero
song into Till All Are One, and I love that song.
instrumentals on that song. Yeah. And crap. That
stupid direct message isn't even in here. Shit.
I think I deleted it. I'm sorry. Damn it. I think
it went something along the lines of... No, no,
no, no. The giant metal bug like Michael Bay
raped my childhood. Everybody knows that Michael
Bay raped my childhood. He just bent it over
and took advantage of it. I've forgiven him for
it because I did enjoy the movie. I took it for
what it was worth. It was giant robots fighting
each other, regardless of whether or not it was
G1. I think that's pretty much all for General
Chat. There really isn't that much else going
on unless you want to let people know how your
home improvements are going. Well, no, I guess
stuff I could talk about I found the rare and
elusive activators And I have an activators dirge
they are hanging out on my desk I mean, I was
afraid these weren't gonna show up in stores
at all. And now that they're here I had to come
up very quickly. I was afraid they'd be gone
in an instant like a Transformers animated Skywarp
Never saw him in the store. No, he's on entertainment
earth. I might buy one from and If Adam Paulus
is listening to this Yeah, I listen to his podcast
The the other thing that I got in a mail is heatwave
who is the transformers collectors club exclusive
figure Every year they send out or I should say
every year for the last four years they have
sent out The freebie figure to members and it's
been a combiner limb from the energon Well, either
you know, one of the energon maximus toys And
they all they have been mostly translucent plastic,
you know, but they they they look good together
but now they've sent heatwave, which is the body
and he is A translucent repaint of... Oh, I want
to call him Onslaught. Did they call him Onslaught?
I don't even know. I don't... I don't acknowledge
Energon, so I wouldn't know. Oh, well, yeah.
He's clearly Onslaught. But, yeah, he was the
Energon Brudicus Maximus body. So now they finally
have the full combined this five pieces now and
this is the fifth one and it's cool because before
the last four years they've sent out the limbs
which were you know, I Don't want to say basic
size. Yeah, and then now they have The body which
is much bigger and they gave it away. That's
cool. So kudos to them. It's really nice The
paint job is really good. It's not just translucent
plastic. There's actually paint on this one And
I'm gonna try to upload some photos. Yeah, they
actually, BotCon, and by the time this is posted,
BotCon will have been long over. But BotCon .com
finally posted the souvenir figures. I don't
like any. Including the set, including the box
set, I hate every single figure. I would not
buy any of them. And, you know, people are like,
Bonsaitron, Bonsaitron, Bonsaitron! To me is
like no They were they really yeah up an elite
guard thing here I know they were going for a
g1 elite guard, but they could have at least
Put something together kind of like you know
maybe have an optimist prime elite guard or a
Megatron or or something something very less
obscure Yeah, well, I think they pull out some
obscure characters, but at the same time You
know there's some interesting things to come
out of this number one. There are two I want
to say Voyager class toys yes bigger toys in
the same box set which they have and and and
and and and and and and and and and and and and
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and and and and and and and and and and and and
and and and the the the only comic the the shatter
glass comic and i love almost all the shatter
glass figures even though i've sold half of them
but that's out of necessity and not not wanting
to but anyway uh... you know i just i don't know
that this set the the only thing i would have
ever actually pay money for out of the oh nine
set is the box itself the boxes awesome just
it's Yeah, it is a nice box. Yeah. Um, yes, I
think that's about it for general chat I think
we're gonna get into some episodes Unless you
have anything else to add Well, actually I just
for fun had brought up the pictures on bycon
.com of the exclusive figures and you know that
razor claw kicks ass I remember when they first
introduced razor claw in the comic book and I
was thinking, you know If they ever make a figure
out of this, it's gonna be awesome And they did!
I mean, how cool is that? Uh, the Alita 1 figure,
uh, the - the Thunder - Thunder Blaster repaint?
Not bad. I - I dig that, too. Uh, I saw pictures
earlier of Eric J. Wyatt - You mean - You mean
Derek J. Wyatt, not Eric J. Wyatt. I'm - I'm
sorry, Derek J. Wyatt. Sorry. I know, I know!
I have a cold! I know, I know, I'm fine. Sorry!
Yeah, but yeah, the only thing that really kind
of aggravated me here is the the three pack of
sweeps That is kind of cheap. It was kind of
like I want to say was it 2005 where they had
the very very Very ruined clones. I can't even
say that I have a cold I don't know I didn't
really pay that much attention to the 2005 set
because I wasn't even really into Transformers
back then anymore Yeah, I think the reason why
they put the three the three pack of sweeps in
there is because scourge is a is a He's not a
leader class, but he's a you know He's the leader
of the sweeps. I don't Yes, he needs some sweeps
to lead I suppose well in the comic book they
are the preview of the comic book they put out
and Definitely the comic book I have a cold and
and he's leading the sweeps and I'm thinking,
you know what? They're gonna put sweeps in there
as a souvenir sets and they did. I didn't tell
anybody. I should have. I could have told you
what I would have been like. I totally called
it. Oh, yes. And the other thing before we get
into the episodes today that I should mention
going back to the whole Stan Bush thing. It did
not get into the soundtrack. uh... did not get
into the same child so hard to reese and jules
on uh... i think the only reason i probably wouldn't
pick it up anyway just because i already have
the songs uh... the only reason why i would pick
it up is because nickelback has gotten one of
their new songs burnt to the ground on it and
three of a dead man uh... who is on my favorite
bands they have one of their new songs and uh...
Not meant to be on there. So I'm really happy
for those two bands that they got on a really
cool soundtrack, but Yeah, Stan got jilted again
Yeah, yeah, well, you know this soundtrack So
I most of the bogey We're going to going to some
episodes It is the year 2005. The great wars
are finally over, and the Autobots have won.
But while the Autobots celebrate their victory
with their new leader, Rodimus Prime, the surviving
Decepticons, without a leader of their own and
desperately low on energon, have retreated to
the burned -out planet of Char. So we're gonna
get into some episodes today first up is five
faces of darkness part one now Originally when
I was thinking about doing the reformatting of
the of the podcast I was going to do this as
one whole story But that wouldn't work with my
audio clips. So we're going to talk about each
individual part all as each individual part.
The synopsis for Five Faces of Darkness Part
1 follows as, For the missing Galvatron on a
faraway planet, Rodimus Prime officiates the
first Galactic Olympics, but chaos erupts when
the Olympic torch explodes in an act of sabotage
and Cup, Ultra Magnus and Spike are kidnapped.
Amidst the commotion. Following a lead on Earth,
Blaster and Outback discover the location of
Char, allowing Rodimus and Grimlock to head there
to look for their missing comrades. First of
all, the booklet is wrong. Either the booklet's
wrong or the episode's wrong because in the beginning
of the episode it says... Victor Kareli, however
the hell you say his name, he says it is the
year 2005. The great war is over. He does not
say the year 2006, because later in this season
we will have the big broadcast of 2006. So the
book's wrong. It's got to be a typo in the book.
Yeah, but still. Doesn't matter. It's still wrong.
As I said, Season 3 picks up where the movie
left off with the Autobots victorious. Good thing
I read that correctly and didn't read the typo
that's there. And the Decepticons drooling in
their own vomit. More Decepticon infighting in
this episode, like there was in the movie. Yes.
This is just that I said, drooling in their own
vomit. You were killing me! Nice. I should have
read that first because that just took me off
guard. I'm lucky I wasn't taking a drink right
then. I'm lucky I wasn't taking a drink right
then. Why in the galactic game scene does Magnus
go on and on about Rodimus and tell everyone
that he's the bearer of the Matrix? Wouldn't
that incite riots and everything with people
trying to kill the new leader of the Autobots?
Not necessarily. I mean, if everybody had animosity
toward the Autobots, I... I could understand
that, but I think he was really trying to play
him up. Like, uh... Who's the guy who does the
announcements for boxing? Is that, like, Vince
McMahon or something? I don't know. The only
one I really know is, uh, what's his name? The
Royal Rumble guy, Michael... I forget what his
name is. It's Michael something. I forget, the
guy that does, welcome to the Royal Rumbler,
whatever, let's get ready to rumble that guy.
I don't know, yeah, yeah. That guy yeah that
guy yeah, but anyway yeah I mean I think he was
just trying I think ultra Magnus was trying to
play up Rodimus in such a way where you know
He's he's new Rodimus is a new leader. He's got
very little prior experience I can understand
you know it's okay What if up so that it looks
even though we as the viewer know that the Decepticons
are pretty much like I said before drooling in
their own vomit What if they had a spy satellite
out there somewhere and even? I'll get to this
later on when Perceptor sends Wheely and Blurred
to Autobot City with the transformation cog.
Perceptor even says, you know, we're not going
to send it by Galactic Express for our enemies
could learn what we're sending. So the same thing,
what if the Decepticons are monitoring these
games and, you know, but then again in the movie
we already know that Rodimus has the Matrix,
but I don't know, it just seemed weird to me
that they did that. I think that there had to
have been something going on between the end
of the movie and this and that is most likely
the nigh impenetrable erotimus walking straight
into a fire fight and punching them in the nose
and saying alright you guys are losers and you're
going to go to your own little planet and drool
in your own vomit. Yeah, yeah, you know, so I'm
sure they home that he's is it just me and I
and I have not looked this up I should have but
is it just me or does Carly's voice sound different?
Did they get a different voice actress? I know
that Susan blue played her I believe In the original
or not the original in like season one and season
two, but she sounds a lot more southern in in
this first episode Yes What is Rodimus throwing
his gun down when he says the planet is quarantined?
Doesn't he know it could have gone off? I didn't
understand much of that. It's like, well, why
is this whole thing going? How do you quarantine
a planet, first of all? His leadership choices.
Yes, I can't even speak at this point because
I'm just so aggravated at the way he acts it's
like you know what you're not optimist and you
would think that if you have the collective knowledge
of a Julian years of Transformers or I should
say Autobot leadership in your This is what the
robotic viagra is for if you have a robotic erection
that lasts longer than just a year, okay, please
see your That's not what I said I think it came
out Why couldn't wheelie have just died in the
movie Oh my god, you know, I think that the problem
with wheelie is he has this almost like a sing
-song It's it's it's like oh It's almost like
the elves, you know, it's almost you hear them
talk and it's kind of sing -songy But at the
same time you've got wind chimes going in the
background and that's supposed to be part of
their voice It's it's annoying. You know as far
as rhyming goes who really pisses me off is Blaster.
I love Blaster. I hate hearing Blaster. I don't
like Blaster. Blaster shouldn't even be annoying.
He should be cool. He should be in the comic
books. He was total badass. And here he's just
like, well, I'm the replacement, Jazz, because
Jazz is no longer in the speaking role. Scatman
Crothers is dead, so I'm going to speak in his
place. I still like Blaster. Blaster's cool.
I've always liked Blaster. When Cyclonus tells
the memory bank inside Unicron's head to find
him the last visual appearance of Galvatron,
the music that is played in the background during
the Rodimus Galvatron battle movie is actually
early G1 season music. Season 1 music. It's not
what was in the actual film. I had assumed that
they didn't have the rights to play the music
in the episode. Probably not. Yeah, I figured
that's what it was. But what I thought was interesting
is they have the video from the episode, but
not the audio. They make extensive use of the
Transformers movie footage. Yes. Yes, they do.
Again, I'm sorry to keep this. I think this is
probably the second and last time I will bring
this up. But after that scene, it cuts to blur
and wheelie inside the ship. And the blur and
wheelie scenes really make my head spin. Just
the two of them together is like oh my god my
head is going to explode I Honestly think you
probably could have cuts all of the blur wheelie
scenes out and it would have been the same Experience
it would have been better. It wouldn't have made
my head spin as much Well, I mean, the overall
effect would have been fine. You probably could
have saved yourself 15 -20 minutes. You could
have used showing Galvatron needlessly blow apart
his own nose. The Rockeroid was kind of cool,
kind of like the Quinison ships in the movie.
I thought that was pretty cool. Are you there?
Oh, okay. You're having a little episode over
there. Yeah, I was coughing. Having a coughing
fit was nice enough to mute it. Did you hear
what I said, though? Okay. Yeah, that was pretty
cool. It must be a different model that I learned
on. Oh, God. Yeah, I'm definitely going to have
to have... I'm going to have words to say about
Springer in these episodes. Oh, my God. It's
it's no worse than what they end up driving later
bastard I stole Rodimus's girlfriend and now
I'm gonna drive this rockeroid How is it that
cyclonus and the rest of the sweeps have energy?
But none of the other Decepticons have any that
never made sense to me. I've watched I've watched
this Actually the whole five part but just I've
watched this episode enough times between The
time I was just watching it for enjoyment to
the time I was doing it for for recording this
and It still makes no sense How is it that that
cyclonus and and scourge and the rest of the
sweeps have have enough energy and the rest of
the Decepticons are falling down Well, I can
explain it The fact is that they're so energy
-deprived that they can't fly anymore. They can
barely transform properly. If they had the energy
reserves to leave the planet and get more energy,
they wouldn't be in the predicament they're in.
Whereas the sweeps have enough energy to leave
the planet and find more. And they bring it back
and they're like, hey, here's a little energy,
but... Instead of us giving this to you, how
about you give us what little tiny thing you
have left? Which I thought was, wait a minute,
why don't they give them that energy and then
all of them can leave the planet and find more
energy? Yes, and before... It didn't make sense.
Oh, go ahead. Sorry. No, I was just saying, it
didn't make sense from... the standpoint of if
we took the energy that we this huge pile of
energy that we brought with us if we were to
give that to you so that you could then transform
and fly and leave this rock then all of us could
then split up find more energy and bring it back
and regroup yes but most of the Decepticons aren't
that smart I think Cyclonus is that smart Which
was why I was confused. I think cyclonus though
has tunnel vision at this point All he can think
of is going to rescue Galvatron And then the
final scene after oh We should mention I didn't
mention this and I should mention the synopsis
blaster and outback go to Carbomnia And they
learn the location of Char because they find,
I believe it's Durge and Ramjet are parked on
Karbami's airport or military base or whatever
the hell it is. And they get the information
out of that as far as the location of Char and
Rodimus and Grimlock go to Char. In the scene
where Grimlock is laughing and then talking loudly,
It's funny as hell, because as soon as he does
that, the Decepticons spot him, fire upon him
and Rodimus, ending the first part of the five
-part storyline. And I actually took a screenshot
of the, right before it says to be continued
with the Decepticons running towards them. It
was really cool. So I think we're going to go
to our thoughts on this episode. Now for our
thoughts on five faces of darkness part one I
did make some notes on this but they're pretty
much the same as this synopsis I did also I added
in the the race stuff, but I'll let you go ahead
and do some of your notes The one thing I thought
was interesting is that Autobot City, you know,
this is the same Autobot City that was used in
the movie They officially call it Metroplex Yes,
they do. Yeah, which which explains a lot of
what was going on in the movie. Yup. Another
thing that I had noticed was that Blurr couldn't
make it into the race. And so he lost because
he couldn't attend. And guess who won? Monkey
Spanker. No. It's Monka Spanker. Monka Spanker.
Tell me Monka Spanker is not Monkey Spanker.
You know what I thought was funny is I can just
imagine jazz he's like, you know signing up to
be in the race and he's like Looking at the form
and it says name and he's like Monkey spanker,
you know, no one else really knows what a monkey
spanker is but all the humans in the audience
are going He's funny But yeah, I'm not sure if
it was really jazz that won. I think it might
have been monkey spanker Yeah, it was it wasn't
I rewatched that scene and everybody else was
already well no wait that could have been the
people waiting for i think it was jazz that won
because he was in the lead the entire time but
they mentioned somebody else i don't know monkey
spanker Because he spanks his monkey. Okay, yeah,
we got it. We got the reference. You want me
to spell that out for you? No. One thing I should
mention is that there is a new theme for the
intro, and there is a new title sequence as well
to include all of the new characters. Also these...
the five faces of darkness part one intro would
be the regular season three title sequence for
the most part except and i will mention this
later in a couple of the other episodes of five
faces of darkness the title sequence is slightly
altered i think they switch back and forth no
for what for all from the outside the uh... the
first episode is the regular season three uh...
the Second episode was regular season 3 the third
episode was the new intro right and then for
the fourth episode They go back to the season
3 intro and for the fifth one they go to the
new intro Yeah, and I didn't know if maybe I
was just seeing different cuts or like a UK version
or maybe I was seeing something different that
hadn't gotten the change I recognize it right
away after a while actually after about two double
takes on the on the third episode I actually
recognized that it that it was different slightly
and I wrote it down and I made a note of it So
yeah, I mean I actually dig the new It's not
really a new song. It's the same song. It's just
different people singing it I actually dig it
for that. The transformation animation when the
Decepticons are fighting over the Energon is
really cool. I mean you really see a slow transformation
for Astrotran when he crashes. That was really
really cool. Yeah. He almost didn't make it.
Yeah, he almost didn't make it. He almost got
his ass blown up. I like the way Cyclonus looks
and having a voice Just is is much better than
not having a voice in the movie And they were
probably trying to cut corners in the movie by
not having someone voice him, right? Oh, yeah,
the the new Decepticons don't even acknowledge
like When I say new quote unquote new Decepticons,
I mean cyclonus in the sweeps They don't even
acknowledge Megatron and repeatedly say hell
Galvatron It was a nice thing for continuity
that astro train mentions mentions that Galvatron
used to be Megatron They were the same guy. He
said who cares? He's the same guy anyway. Yeah,
I know but Well, that was actually spoken. That
was the line. It's like they're the same guy
anyway. Yeah, it's like wait a minute Well speaking
of the voices, I didn't realize that Outback
was Australian. Outback is like, throw another
shrimp on the bobby! And I'm thinking, he's Australian?
I don't remember, it makes sense because his
name is Outback, but it didn't occur to me. The
animation on the torch when it exploded was pretty
cool. I kind of like that effect And here we
go on my little rant here. It seems that Springer
and RC are a couple Fuck fuck fuck Springer must
die die die die You know what bothered me about
this episode most was the fact that that Rodimus
number one is the worst shot ever During the
the Olympic terrorism scene You know he's shooting
and he's shooting he can't hit a damn thing to
save his own life, and then he throws his gun
down You know yeah, it's like dropships coming
down to the sky and he can't hit one And I'm
thinking you know what I just saw optimus prime
fly through the air and nail like eight Decepticons
in a row And this guy can't hit a dropship the
size of a small planet And then you know and
then later on he visits the Decepticon planet
with Grimlock with Grimlock and again, I don't
know. Well, I'm not sure if there's just so many
of them or what but he wasn't hitting any of
them He's the only guy on the planet with a working
gun. He can't hit anybody It's killing me. It's
like Rodimus shoots like a stormtrooper Scourge
is smarter than Cyclonus in the scene where they
go to Unicron. Unicron actually groans and Cyclonus
says, must be the wind, and then Scourge replies,
there is no wind in space. That was a little
Mr. Science there for the kids at home. Wait
a minute, how does sound transfer if there's
no wind in space? What happens if somebody farts?
Does it actually go into space? I don't know,
we're not going to get into that. There's no
wind in space, but what if you break wind? uh...
god uh... car bomb the uh... is mentioned in
this and uh... uh... yeah i'd believe that i
was actually going to look this up but i was
scrambling trying to get mister wilson here actually
to come to the recording uh... city actually
forgot about it i'd say i know you're sick i
have a call for everything okay okay well tonight
at least i know i know but uh... i was at disease
i was actually a look this up and i just didn't
there was something where casey case and thought
that they were playing on his i don't know if
it was his his nationality or his religious beliefs
or something or whatever and what with whole
car bomb you think but that's one of the reasons
why you very rarely see clifton anymore because
casey case and was no longer there I didn't realize
that it was a religious thing. I don't know I
cannot and I'm gonna say this right now before
I get any any No, I don't know I think I don't
know. I forget what he is, but I'm going to say
this right now before I get any tweets from Malunas
or GeneralTechno or anybody saying... The Muslims
are going to catch you on fire. Oh my god, I'm
on fire! I'm not for sure if it was his religious
beliefs or if it was his nationality. I'm leaning
towards nationality, but I'm not certain. Char,
a blip. The planet Char, a blip. Quick change
of subject. yes exactly a good segway uh... look
at the children uh... uh... uh... uh... that
would have been kind of cool if they would have
thrown that in somewhere after that there uh...
that's actually that's actually over at the same
group like escape from the planet they can't
point out the subject of the whole Oh, no. So,
um, Chara being a blip on the screen that Rodimus
thinks is a smudge, I thought that was funny.
I guess they don't clean Teletran too regularly.
Yeah, Rodimus, the all -knowing, all -powerful
Autobot leader, looks at it very carefully and
says, I think that's a smudge? I think the last
two notes I have on this one is when Perceptor
offers to help Rodimus and he's like when he's
getting ready to go to Char and he's like Remember
what the last what happened the last two guys
that tried to help me out Good point take Grimlock
and then Grimlock does a happy dance And then
rumble stuttering is very funny. We'll pulverize
him We'll pulverize raise him or whatever he
says is funny as hell. He has a cold He's got
coughing pig disease, too Do you have... coughing
pig disease, oh my god. That's right. Dave came
over and he goes, cough cough cough cough cough
cough cough cough cough cough cough cough cough
cough cough cough cough cough cough cough cough
cough cough cough cough cough cough cough cough
cough cough cough cough cough cough cough cough
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at it. Okay, I'm not disbelieving you. I'm just
trying to clarify. You mean the small ship. That's
exactly what I mean. Okay, the small ship that
shoots out of the rocker. You're just making
it sound worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It's
this large phallic object that flies out of the
hard object. You know, I whoever wrote this it
was point Billy he must have been Pissed off
or something that day because it's like first
we have monkey spanker. Then we have the giant
scrub dildo and I'm sure there's more that I
missed that maybe might be private in -jokes
between him and his buddies way back in 1986
or something but yeah he was really pulling all
the stops here. Before we go into part two of
FFOD is what I'm going to start calling it because
saying Five Faces of Darkness every single time
is... You have to say the whole thing. Well,
it's draining on the voice. It's like a pimp
named Slickback. You have to say the whole thing.
Anyway, I will be mentioning throughout this
episode of TFG1 the freaking color... animation
changes in Rodimus if you remember in this episode
he is like a dark dark almost maroon red and
orange and in the next episode I believe he is
his movie colors so yeah I will be bringing that
up throughout the rest of the episodes so that
was five faces of darkness part one Wars are
over. The Autobots have won. The surviving Decepticons
without a leader and desperately low on energon
retreated to the burned out planet of Char. Once
Decepticons nearly held the quadrant through
terror. Now we scrap like slargs over a few energon
cubes. Is this the fate of the mighty Decepticon
Empire? In desperation they realized that their
only hope for survival was Galvatron. The memory
bank must be in here. There it is. Find me the
last visual appearance of Galvatron. But the
only clue to their former leader's present location
pointed the way to a fiery, distant planet called
Thrall. Meanwhile, the triumphant Autobots sent
Blurr and Wheely with the transforming cog to
Autobot City on Earth. But mysterious invaders
attacked and kidnapped Ultra Magnus Cup and Spike.
What happened to them all? They're gone! Yeah,
and I'll lay odds on who did it. This planet
is quarantined. Nobody comes, nobody goes until
we find Cup, Spike, and Magnus. And what if we
don't? Then we'll trash every Decepticon in the
galaxy. Are the kidnappers Decepticons or some
other race of evil beings? The search for an
answer took Rotomus Prime and Grimlock to Char,
the new headquarters of the Decepticons. Face
it, we're doomed. I don't think there's something.
These guys are hurting. You know, they couldn't
have been responsible for the kidnappings. They
not! But if not they, who are? Who are them?
Grimlocks! Autobots! Me Grimlock not afraid of
Decepticons? Destroy them! Next is Five Faces
of Darkness Part 2. To synopsize this episode...
sure i have the right one here optimus and optim
oh my god oh crap this is not dark awakening
yet Erotimus and Grimlock are overwhelmed by
Decepticon forces, but a strange spaceship rescues
them from captivity. Unchar, Cyclonus Scourge
in the sweeps locate Galvatron, asking him to
lead the Decepticons once more, but find their
former leader filled with an Let's see, where
do we start with this one? I'm getting his ass
handed to him Not really I mean Not really because
just because the Decepticons are out of energy
and their weapons doesn't mean that the evil
bots can't stomp Rodimus and Grimlock but they
eventually don't um... they do a little bit but
then are seeing that bastard springer show up
and rescue rodimus and grimlock well see that's
a sad thing is you've got again quote -unquote
prime getting curb stomped you don't curb stomp
someone unless they're already on the ground
and defeated yeah um... And I must, uh, it's
funny. You know what? Grimlock should have gotten
the matrix. Grimlockimus Prime would have kicked
ass there. And I must, um, I must play something
here because there was something I pretty much
almost fell out of my chair laughing at. Yes.
Yes. That's awesome. And then that is pretty
much Grimlock's only funny part of the entire
episode because then he goes into Rodimus, me
Grimlock, say you must wake up! And then he starts
bawling like a fucking baby. He cries. I tell
you, he's like a big German Shepherd. I mean,
one minute he's doing a happy dance in his tail's
wagon and then he's like, ooh, and licking his
face. Poor Grimlock. He should have gotten The
Matrix. He should have been badass. And now he's
just a big dumb German Shepherd. Yes. This episode
brings us the history of the Quintessons and
Transformers in general. This is done by Rodimus
traveling within the Matrix for a second time.
He does go in the first time when he's... when
he's under... when he got knocked out and then
the Mlock is saying, wake up, wake up, and then...
Grimlock and R .C. get into an argument over
whether he's dead or not dead or whatever, and
Grimlock actually is. He makes a good, smart
point. The Matrix did not show itself, so...
You know, where is Rodimus? What's going on?
And it turns out he travels inside the Matrix
to find out who the, um... Who the enemy is,
as far as who's doing this to the Autobots. Excuse
me. And, um... And he actually does it a second
time later on in the episode where he short -circuits
himself to find out the entire history, which
will be at the end of this episode. Not only
can he not shoot, but he's a cutter. What? This
is the equivalent of slicing your own wrists
here. He opens up his chest and short -circuits
himself so that he can die and then go into the
Matrix. It's like, I realize that you're unhappy
with your life and the way things are going because
you really don't want to be the leader. You're
crying, oh, I'm not a very good leader, and guys
suck, and woe is me. But you don't have to kill
yourself. I mean, come on, let's grow up here,
people. Okay, I have another note that I'm not
really sure why I wrote it down I'm gonna say
it in a second But the note before that is I
like how the continuity has played out between
the movie and now Between the movie in this five
-part story. They've really combined the two
You know the after effects and the before effects
of the movie with the insertion of the Transformer
history, the Quintesson history, the history
of Cybertron. Right. It explains why the Quintessons
are so upset with the Autobots in general. But
what I don't like is the fact that it's not just
an expansion of some of the plot points that
were in the movie like, who the heck are the
Quintessons? But it's also a replaying of a goodly
chunk of the movie. yeah it is it's like we've
already seen this before why why would we have
to go in fact even in in five faces of darkness
they mention it wow you know we've done this
before well right um but there are different
scenes though i mean it's kind of retelling the
movie but with the with rodimus short circu short
circuiting himself and going inside the matrix
that wasn't in the movie that whole history timeline
of how, oh and I must bring this up. I don't
remember who said this. Somebody said about Beast
Machines what they hate about it. I don't remember
who it was. They hated about Beast Machines how
they had to learn how to transform. I think it
was Spada from TFWire, but I can't remember.
Hello, it says it in this episode. They created,
the G1 Transformers created the art of transforming
to elude themselves from the Decepticons. So
I can see where the people in Beast Machines
that wrote that series took... Something from
g1 saying that they must learn again how to transform
because if the transformer if the Autobots who
were the the the consumer good line I guess if
they Invented the art of transforming then they
must have to have had to have taught it to everybody
else actually as far as beast machines go I can't
kind of took that a little differently in the
sense that you know when you're a robot shifting
yourself from one form to another should be as
simple as moving your arms and legs. It's not
something that you have to so much learn. Whereas
with the techno organics, especially in beast
machines, they were leaning more toward the spiritual.
Yeah, it was just a mechanical thing right was
something that you had to feel deep into your
soul And some people like rattrap and particularly
just weren't ready to do that. They're they're
not as in tune with themselves Yes, and and and
Stephen I will definitely actually it's funny
I've had a lot of requests to be on the beast
on leash podcast Because everybody that I know
that is transformers France for the most part
is grew up on beast wars and beast machines so
there's gonna be plenty of I believe it was Rodimus
that says it. He says something to the effect
of somebody turning something into bluey juice.
What the fuck is bluey juice? This is a totally
different episode Really rub that one out didn't
he? It's a good thing this shows explicit It's
like, what happened to the Bluey Juice? Well,
we ran out. We do that once or twice a day. Oh,
God. Oh, crap. Hey, Galvatron lives. Yeah, Galvatron
lives. How is it that the, okay, yeah. That's
another thing, after we find out that Galvatron's
alive. How is it that the Coins are still in
power? In the movie, Grimlock, you know, slams
his foot on the metal ground and sends the army
of Sharktocons after them. Continuity error,
but... I've gotten away. Well, I can also kind
of... I can kind of, um... Explain away my my
my point there There are multiple and many quintessence
They're not just even though they all pretty
much look the same there are many different ones
so yeah Oh, yeah, it is but but there's like
I don't know they're disposable yes uh... canon
in space yeah right when galvatron transforms
and blows up the row or through or whatever the
hell the damn planet's name was so nobody else
can get the plasma baths yeah okay yeah what
is that is that the lava does that lava even
hurt no it's supposed to be energizes him oh
because he kept knocking the sweeps into the
lava in there Trying to get out you think they'd
be like, oh, this is nice. Thanks for throwing
me in the lava This is kind of refreshing. I
appreciate that, you know, they're like and they're
trying to fly out So I'm thinking does that even
hurt? I didn't think of the lava as a having
regenerative properties. Well if you look at
I believe at one of the breaks when it goes into
the whole you know the Transformers will be back
after these messages one of the bumpers before
that it shows Galvatron's face and it shows like
on like on his forehead on his chin and like
on his right side of his cheek it shows like
little glowy stars after he's come about of the
lava so and he even says these baths have re
-energized me. Well, he said that, but I mean,
I took that to mean like, I live on pain. My
mind is completely blown and I'm not even thinking
at this point. And the pain is pushing me into
new horizons of experience. He's like, you know,
the Cenobites have visited him and shown him
new realms. We have a new well new to season
3 I don't believe he was in the movie and I don't
believe he's in season 2 Broadside is introduced
as the Autobot fleet ship and when they go to
rescue Magnus Cup and Spike Springer didn't blow
up Broadside I didn't say they blew up Broadside
I said they brought in Broadside okay, yeah broadside
is new to the series. I'm jumping ahead too because
No, I I saw the ship and I thought the ship looked
a lot like broadside's vehicle mode Because it
would be a scale. It's huge right because it
turns transforms into a carrier Stop jumping
into the episode 3 part damn it. Let me finish
this I'm just saying he was introduced here.
Yes Yeah When I don't think that was him they
didn't actually he didn't have a speaking role
put it that way. Yes, he did Well get into it
in episode 3 he talked an episode Okay after
Springer and RC and everybody else They go do
their rescue thing and they tricked them with
the rock or or supposedly tricked them with the
rocker Roy the empty rocker road trick Grimlock
crashing into the quaint chair. Hello. He can
fly don't they know that The Dinobots flew all
the time. Why the hell is Grimlock not using
his flight? Did he lose his flight capabilities?
He forgot. German Shepards don't fly. The Aerialbots
to the rescue. Because the Aerialbots do come
out of Broadside. I'm not really for sure if
Broadside had a speaking role in this. I know...
I think it was just a ship. I don't think it
was supposed to be. I mean it looked like broadside.
I don't think it was supposed to be broadside.
Yes, I think it was because I think they said
broadside. I think they said his name. Well,
they blow him up in the next episode. I don't
think it's him. The destruction of Quintessa
ends this episode as the Autobots narrowly escape.
So we are going to move on to our thoughts. Now
for our thoughts on this episode and because
I've pretty much Turned the paragraph long old
format into bullet points I didn't write down
any additional thoughts because I kind of mixed
them in but I know you have some written down
I was actually thinking about things this time
Yeah in the beginning of the episode they have
rumble and rumble is huge they have him pretty
much the same size as the rest of the septicons
Yeah, I did notice that That was kind of weird.
Did you pick up on, you know, there's crowd shots
of Decepticons as they're advancing upon, you
know, Rodimus and Grimlock, and I'm trying to
pick out a few that I didn't really recognize.
I'm thinking, who the heck is that supposed to
be? I'm wondering if they're just throwing, you
know, random stock bots or something out there.
No, because the entire, not counting Astrotrain,
Not counting Astrotrain, Soundwave, and the cassettes,
the rest of them are the Combaticons. Because
there's Swindle, and not counting... Well, the
Combaticons I recognize, but there's a lot more.
Really? There were a bunch that I just didn't
recognize. And this happens again later on. I
want to say that in the value... In the battle
where... uh... galvatron is fighting on the quinnison
side and all the septicons are attacking at the
same time the uh... there's a lot of septicons
i don't recognize and i'm thinking what are they
just making things up at this point I'm not really
sure. I know Minasaur or the Stuntacons were
there at one point It could have been new characters
they were introducing but just didn't give names.
I don't know. I would have to actually go back
and watch Watch it again Yeah, that would be
interesting actually that if someone had freeze
-framed it and pointed out who each character
was Oh, well, I will be taking net now that I've
learned with my power DVD Application on my computer.
I can take screen captures when you don't have
to do it with your iPhone Yes, I don't have to
do with my iPhone anymore. So yes, I will I will
be taking screen captures of most of these season
3 episodes If I can remember to do that Yeah,
I You know, I've pretty much gone through all
my thoughts when we did the synopsis. I really
don't have that much else. You missed one. What
did I miss? Marissa Fairborn. Ehh, whatever.
Oh, come on, you know, I know that you might
not be the largest G .I. Joe fan. Well, okay,
now, and I've said this before, it's not that
I'm not a fan, it's not that I don't like G .I.
Joe, it's I did not watch it. I mean, I know
just from - It came on at the same time as Transformers.
Yes, well, I wasn't that much into being an American
hero back then. I was into giant robots. See,
I was just in front of the TV at the time, and
I would watch pretty much anything you put in
front of me. But the fact that Marissa Fairborn
is supposed to be the daughter... of lint and
Mary J who perhaps are my two least favorite
G .I. Joe characters oh my god yeah they must
be because you got her name so wrong it's not
Mary J it's Lady J no Lady J you said you said
Mary Mary oh, it's because it's well known that
Flint was a partaker of the Mary Joana And so
when I was thinking Mary Jane is no we're not
when it was on the Mary Jane at the time that
Marissa Fairhorn was conceived with Lady J. We
are not doing G .I. Joan drugs digressing Marissa
Fairborn in the episode. Yes, this would also
go into later with Marissa being in several episodes
which we will get into not today I don't think
but I mean she is in some of the other ones today
but she's in more as season 3 progresses and
also in only human Cobra Commander shows up from
GI Joe. Awesome. Yes. Classic episode. Yes it
was. And I think that's about it for our thoughts
on this episode. Can we end on Grimlock's laugh?
Uh, Grimlock's laugh? I'm not sure, but... I
can't do it as well as Greg Berg. Yeah, no, but
we can end on this. A fitting end. They're gonna
stomp us! Go in! Rodimus Prime and Grimlock are
rescued from the Decepticons by Arcee and Springer.
The Autobots realize that the Decepticons are
now too weak to have kidnapped Ultra Magnus Cup
and Spike. But if they didn't, who did? These
guys sure know a lot about Cybertron and Transformers.
It's as if they can read our minds. To find the
answer, Rodimus Prime traveled deep within himself
into the matrix of leadership and emerges with
the incredible answer. The Quintessons. Meanwhile,
on the planet Quintessa, the evil Quintesson
sentenced Cup, Ultra Magnus, and Spike to death
in the Sharkticon pit. As this happens, Galvatron
emerges from the lava plasma of the planet Thrull
to lead the Decepticons. Come, Decepticons! We
have an empire to regain! And the Autobots invade
the planet Quintessa to save their friends from
execution. Get in there and pull our guys out
But the quintessence would rather blow up their
own home planet I shall miss quintessence then
allow any Autobots to escape Up next is five
faces of darkness part three gotta say the whole
thing Yeah, I did say the whole damn thing. I
didn't say FF OD First off, this episode has
the alternate scenes in the title sequence. When
I first saw this, I was like, huh? I did like
a Tim Allen. I was like, huh? You know, because
I was like, wait, what? No, that can't be the
right cartoon I'm watching. I mean, it was Autobot
Decepticon stuff, but it was more in line with
the story that was going on. It showed more of
the quintessons in the title sequence. They actually
show floating Autobot and Decepticon sig - uh,
s - s - not signals. Symbols! Um, but yeah, that
- that was pretty cool that they did an alternate
title sequence. It - it just seems strange that
they've flipped it out there in the third episode.
It's like if you were gonna have a new intro
wouldn't you use that on all five episodes? But
it's but but it's funny though because if you
compare season 2 to season 3 it is a completely
new intro even for the regular intro for season
3 so I mean Altering it for I believe two episodes
And I'll go through this later on. It wasn't
that bad and it kind of did go along with the
story itself. And it's the only time that it
was done in the entirety of Season 3. Best quote
of this episode was after the Autobots got blown
up and are floating through space. When Rodimus
goes, well, we'll either be saved or splattered.
When they're heading towards some large... Large
object and they don't know whether it's a planet
or a star or a Sun or whatever and he goes well
Only to be saved maybe saved or splattered Rodimus
what is your master plan here? I think we're
just going to float Until we hit something hopefully
it's not a star Yes, yes, maybe a binary star
we can be cooked and then burned I just realized
why my synopsis notes, I was going to say for
season 3, for episode 3 are so short because
the majority of it was the blur and wheelie storyline.
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Remember why I wrote that down. I think he's
he said something to scourge or something I forget
The quints as I've nicknamed them which whatever
I I think that That's actually said in the series.
It's at a couple of points are evil conniving
things. Holy crap It's just like I'm going to
screw you over and they say it In front of you.
Did I just say that? Did I? Yeah, really. There's
an 85 % chance that we're going to be fucking
this guy in the ass. Oh, did I say that out loud?
And the other one says, there's an 85 % chance
that he heard you say that out loud. Yeah, I
know. And Galvatron's like, holy shit, these
guys are fucked in the head. Oh, I'm jumping
ahead in episodes now, yeah. No, no, no, it's
fine. I think it was this episode, it might have
been the fourth part, where Blitz, for some odd
reason, Blitzwing can't remember, but he knows
who the Quints are. He's seen creatures like
them before. Blitzwing has only been in since
Season 2, so how the hell does he know who the
Quintessons are? You missed the episode where
Blitzwing was going into the Matrix of Leadership.
No such thing exists. That's right. No such thing
exists blitzwing and the matrix of leadership
he sort of circuited himself and There is only
someone idiotic like a septicon would do something
like that and went back to see the history of
the transformers That's how he is Anyway, the
planet goo is way cool No, goo is really cool
planet of goo it's a planet it's made of goo
that's so dumb it's almost like it's almost like
a it's a planet it's made of trash it's called
junkion it's a planet it's made of junk trash
junk interchangeable it's called junkion what
do they call it? I know but but it's kind of
funny though that that the junkions would have
a garbage scowl planet Like the garbage scowl
that's in there, you know, that's getting ready
to Swoop Springer up and cut him into little
itty -bitty pieces just like these images right
here They're in your Skype window you're welcome
Well the viewer the home listener you should
say not viewer because this is not a video podcast
and thank god it is not because holy crap nobody
wants to see my ugly mug yeah nobody wants to
see me either do a video podcast no no no i am
one fugly geek actually there's lots of pictures
of me floating around the internet but they've
all got my kids in them so okay that's a little
strange oh no they're cute stuff okay i was gonna
say wait a second I'm a proud dad. Oh, I thought
you said me you said you okay pictures of my
kids, okay, okay? I was like really strange.
I know that's not like oh wait What does Mike
Blanchard do when he's staying up way late at
night? Well? He's photoshopping his own head
in my family photos So anyway We must digress
here. Yeah, I'm sorry my favorite part of season
three Springer gets chopped into bits by the
garbage thing on goo kind of like when Magnus
was blown apart by Galvatron in the movie Yes,
but unfortunately, unfortunately the fucking
junkie on put them back together again Yes Humpty
Dumpty the Humpty Dumpty Optimus Zombie. We need
the Chunkyats to work on Galvatron and bring
him back to Megatron. Oh god, no. You know, that's
what I was wondering. Wouldn't it be cool if
Cyclonus and the Sweeps show up on the lava planet
and find, not Galvatron, but Megatron, who has
been healed by the regenerative properties of
the lava? Yes. Think at that point Frank Walker
was sick of doing the deep gravelly voice Painful
I know that Welker said he didn't he likes the
Megatron voice over the Galvatron He did not
like the Galvatron voice that much, but whatever
The Decepticon no no, I'm just saying Whatever
to his his his preference that's fine. I think
every every character should sound like Fred
no no no no the Decepticons are now led by the
Quintessons all except Blitzwing and this goes
back to what I said a minute ago when the Quintessons
offer the Decepticons energon everybody except
Blitzwing because for some odd reason he knows
who they are but he can't remember so yeah Blur
was awesome in the movie, but the combination
of blur and wheelie just is fucking horrendous.
It can't be said enough. I know, I know. I think
there is one blur and wheelie bad note in every
episode today. Exactly, exactly. You know what
they should have done? They should have mixed
wheelie and blaster and then had like a rhyme
off. To see who could rhyme more. You just don't
like blaster. I don't I don't like blaster You
know you'd be mad at blaster, too If you blaster
comes in and says hey RC. What's kickin? You
know and then and then takes her away from Rodimus
and you'd hate him, too But see blaster didn't
do that the green bastard did that Here's the
animosity. It's like, where did all this anger
come from? Well, he stole his girlfriend, that
dick. If Blaster'd come in and been like, hey,
check out my tape deck. Look at this. No, no,
no, no. We can't even go into that. Just don't
even mention that. There will be no Blaster slash
flick here. I read some fan fiction of a good
Transformers friend of mine. where she wrote
a Vortex Blaster rape scene. Stop it! You stop
right now! I know! So anyway, the episode ends
with the Decepticon army led by the Quints attacking
the Autobots on Goon. And we're going to go into
our thoughts on this episode. I'm still offended.
So, uh, thoughts for the third part of Five Faces
of Darkness? We are not going to be mentioning
any of what just transpired in the synopsis with
the fanfic. We're not gonna be bringing that
up again. We're not gonna bring that up again.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, It's
kind of like a Bugs Bunny, you know, somebody's
saying, I dare you to cross this line, this one,
this one, this one, and then he falls off the
fucking cliff. I think we've already fallen off
the cliff. Yeah, we've pretty much... Some things
that are seen cannot be unseen. Some things that
have been heard cannot be unheard. Well, you
know, I'm thinking of that one website, it was
Rotor Blades in the Ass. Oh, okay. Yeah. What
are your thoughts on this episode? Well, the
one thing I noticed was broadside. Quote -unquote
broadside. Was it broadside? It might be broadside,
but now he's dead and we'll never know. It was
broadside. He did have a voice actor. I remember
them saying broad. I remember, I believe Outback
is there, or not Outback, it's one of the aerial
bots that calls him broadside. Really? When he's
in ship mode, I do remember that. I mean, I would
have to go back and watch it to make sure, but
I do believe that I'm positive in remembering
that they fly out of Broadside, because... I
know they fly out of the ship, but I don't think
they said, thanks for the lift, Broadside. Well,
no. Broadside says, hey, guys, the problem! I'm
dead! What happens is Broadside alerts them,
just like Teletran used to alert them about incoming
attacks. Okay, it was it was broadside that said
oh, we got an attack coming guys or something
like something to that effect and I thought that
might have just been somebody on the bridge that
said that no No, it makes sense because he he
would be in scale at that point because he's
thing is fucking huge. Yeah I don't want to think
it's broadside cuz he got blown up. Well, it
is broadside broadside went bluey juice The planet
of goo was made by the junkians right and the
only way you're gonna get that much goo is from
the monkey spanker. God, okay, yeah. It's an
entire planet made of the nocturnal emissions
of a junkion. Stop, stop, stop, stop. This is
just going in the complete wrong direction. I
didn't really see this going here. This has got
to be the most off -the -wall episode of the
DFG One podcast ever. And I apologize in advance
for all the awful things that I'm going to say
after this. I'm not going to apologize for that.
Yes, really. Oh my god. You know what kills me
though is that they actually blow up the planet.
Or they blow up goo. Yeah, Galvatron does, he
shoots. It's funny, there was a Guar song, I'll
educate you on the Guar song. But at one point,
Odorus Urungus says, if we could blow the planet
up, we would just float away. And I'm thinking,
that's what they're going to do, they're going
to blow up this planet and float away. Yep. Which
they technically already did when they blew up
Quintessa. Yes, that is true. Yeah. Anyway, digressing
completely. Yes, really. Do you have any other
thoughts? I do. I do. They mentioned the warp
gate. Yeah. Cyclonus and the sweeps fly through
a warp gate. And I'm thinking, why would they
have a warp gate? Wouldn't it be cool to have
a free -floating space bridge in the middle of
space? They could use the same art, but it would
be in space. It would kind of be like, I don't
know if you watched Stargate Atlantis. They always
had the stargates the choppa eye in space and
they would kind of you know fly a ship Through
the the the original one and then just fly out
into space You know no, I did not watch Stargate
Atlantis, I didn't watch Atlantis, but I did
watch SG -1 Oh yeah, it's a good show. A couple
times in SG -1, they actually flew a ship through
the Stargate. We're going into a rat hole here.
This is not a Stargate pod. I'm just saying,
you know, it would have been cool to have a space
bridge, as opposed to a quote -unquote warp gate.
Well, I think the warp gates kind of took the
place of the space bridges because... Now see,
I've always questioned this. After the ultimate
doom when Cybertron get gets blasted off into
the galaxy out of Earth's orbit Where the hell
did it go and how the hell can the Autobots and
Decepticons? Fly there without using the space
bridge because sometimes Starscream flew there
in season 2 from Earth And I think the warp gates
are meant to separate outer space like obviously
you have Earth in this sector in the whole you
know Earth solar system. I don't even know The
Milky Way Galaxy, whatever. For a second there,
I forgot what the fuck it was called. I was thinking
you were going to break into Star Trek lore there
for a second. Shut the hell up. It's like, whoa,
we're going to use a wormhole warp gate to go
from the alpha quadrant to the delta quadrant.
Which is where Cybertron clearly is. Stop, stop.
But yeah, I mean, that's probably why the warp
gates were there, was to take the place of space
bridges, I think. Yeah, but to me, they should
have exercised a little bit of Occam's razor
there and just kept with the space bridge mentality.
I thought that was a cool look. I know. Whatever.
The other thing that bothered me about this episode
was the metal -eating acid -spewing monsters.
Wait, metal -eating acid -spewing the shark decons?
No, no. Well, I think it was the... Uh, what
do they call the - later on in episode 5 they
actually call them li -poles. The bugs. Oh, oh,
the things on Jupiter on - on Io. Okay. Yeah,
and I'm thinking, you know, that's pretty lame.
Okay. Uh, you know, you gotta make something
up. I mean, honestly, I would have been happier
if shark decons would have come out of the ground.
Yeah, I honestly don't remember a majority of
the Blur -Skylinks rescue mission because I wanted
to put Blurrin' Wheely out of my mind completely.
That's right. These are memories that we have
hidden deep into the back of our head. Yes, I
don't even think there is one note in episode
3 about the rescue mission at all. I'm going
to need to have some therapy and have a psychologist
draw these memories back so that I'll be able
to talk about them. Yes, really. Because I've
hidden them. They were so bad. In fact, I vaguely
remember who were the characters again. I think
it was Wheelie and Blur. Blur, Wheelie, Fairborn,
and Skylinks. Oh, that's right. Skylinks is there
at this point. But they were like hiding in a
nebula. and again drawing deeply from Star Wars
or Star Trek but no seriously they're hiding
in a nebula and Galvatron's like shooting up
they're going well shit I think they're dead
and again I don't remember exactly which which
one of these episodes that was in because I all
those just kind of blurred together for me and
I don't remember any of them now But that's where
the smart ass of Cyclonus happens because I remember
now that I'm - Oh, Cyclonus is like, what? You
didn't do about their head? Yeah, exactly. I
thought you wanted their heads. Shut up, Cyclonus.
He's like itching his eyeball with his middle
finger, like, you see this? You see this? There
you go, Cyclonus. I like them apples. Yeah, no,
but that was... I didn't like them, and you know...
I'm just genre hopping at this point. We go from
Stargate to Star Wars, now I'm going to go to
D &D. If you remember from the Monster Manual,
the first D &D game, this was way back in the
late 70s, early 80s. I never played D &D, so
I think unless you have any thoughts that are
on topic... The light poles, the quote -unquote
light poles is what they call them later, remind
me of the Sturges. From the original monster
manual and you know, I'm sure there's somebody
somebody is geeky as I am out there It's gonna
recognize us go. Yeah It's not me yeah, we'll
leave it at that but that's that's pretty much
all I had to the cover already then and Wheely
are ambushed on their mission to take the transforming
cog for Autobot City to Earth and are left hurtling
helplessly toward a moon of Jupiter, Io. I'm
tracking an Autobot shuttle with several Decepticon
fighters in pursuit. All hope lies with Marisa
Fairborn of the Earth Defense Command who even
now rockets toward Io. Meanwhile, a daring raid
led by Rodimus Prime and the Aerialbots freed
Ultra Magnus, Cop and Spike an instant before
the planet was detonated by the deadly Quintesson.
Buffeted by the terrific force of Quintessa's
explosion, Rodimus Prime and his companions tumbled
out of control and landed on Goo, the stickiest
planet in the universe. Springer had just been
vacuumed up and destroyed by the elemental processing
unit of Goo, when suddenly the Decepticons attacked.
Faces of darkness part 4 To start this one off.
We have the regular title sequence this time
best quote of the episode Me Grimlock says says
shut your faces. He's talking to the quintessence
Galvatron's rage at swindle is way cool. I don't
remember. Oh Okay, swindle was doing his obvious
swindle thing and he was playing up the quince
and saying why should we You know follow you
when they're gonna give us all the energon. What
are you gonna give us? Okay? Yeah Yeah, Galvatron
does not put up with swindle at all Galvatron
will blast swindles head off for any little thing
I didn't understand his Galvatron. It hates everybody,
but then when he first comes back, who does he
meet first? He meets Blitzwing. And he's like,
Blitzwing, my good friend. And he shakes his
hand and gives him a big hug. Yeah, I don't know.
I didn't understand that either. But then again,
it goes to show that maybe Blitzwing, maybe there's
a little more to Blitzwing. Then we really sing
as though he... Let's not go there. No, I'm not
saying gay sex. I'm saying... You just said it!
No, you are still thinking about the fan fiction
with the vortex and the blaster. No, what I'm
saying is... Blitzwing seems to know a little
bit more about everything. About the Quintessons
and about the Transformers 3. And I don't know
why. Don't know why and I whatever I I honestly
don't know why since he was only featured Predominantly
in season two like once or twice Yeah, I'm not
really sure Rekgar's voice has changed and then
not Eric No, I seriously doubt it's Eric Idle.
It's somebody else. I don't even remember who
it was. That's why I said I don't think Eric
Idle did the... Well, just like Leonard Nimoy
didn't do the episode. Yeah, he didn't do Galvatron,
no. Galvatron confronts the Quints and they lie
to him about a Decepticon Matrix, which obviously
doesn't exist. Obviously. Yes, uh, unfortunately
cry Springer gets repaired and our seat Holy
fucking shit. That's right. Oh Christ. I can't
fucking believe this. Why do the junkies keep
repairing people? I mean, come on Trypticon is
built in this episode. I thought that was very
cool Yes, that was awesome. You know, I think
that that kind of goes against You know what
you would find in in the the war within comics
And I don't know if you read those No, I have
not read comics outside of the BotCon comic.
They actually showed like pre -earth mode trypticon
But it was crappy because it was drawn by Andrew
Wildman, but Don't like Wildman But what was
cool though is in the episode you've got trypticon
being made from an actual earth city and the
people don't know They're completely oblivious
to the fact that their entire city is about to
transform into a giant transverse Rex I I forget
who says it. It's one of the said it might it
might be one of the constructicons He goes sleep.
Well human creatures when you wake up. You're
going to be awakened by a surprise Yes, the Decepticon,
okay Like I said before part four the synopsis
was very short. I don't know what I was doing
when I wrote this up It ends with the Decepticons
and the quintessence attacking both earth and
Cybertron simultaneously and the destruction
of the Autobots is a sure that the cliffhanger
I was gonna say it did seem like the synopsis
must have been really short because you didn't
cover it It's a cover one offices. We didn't
read it. We just went right into oh shit I, yeah,
I forgot. Oh, had you meant to? Because you didn't
do it for three. No, yeah, I meant to. Oh. I
was going to say something. I didn't do it for
three either. Oh, shit. Yeah, what's up with
that? Well, bonus feature time, ladies and gentlemen.
For five places of darkness part three. You can
add that back up. I'm not adding it back. I'm
putting it in here. Are you serious? Yeah, I
don't care. Oh my god. I don't care. Just skip
it. You know, that's the whole point of this
podcast. It's become one laughfest and one big
joke, so it doesn't matter. Escaping Quintessa,
Rodimus and his allies crash land and become
stuck on goo eight seven. 39 be a planetoid made
up of strange vicious substance Galvatron returns
whatever Galvatron returns to solar system and
intercepts a shuttle piloted by blur and wheelie
who have been charged with delivering Metroplex's
transformation cog to Autobot City on earth blur
and wheelie crash onto Io, one of Jupiter's larger
moons. Back on Char, the Quintessons arrive and
make the languishing Decepticons an offer that
they can't refuse. Unlimited energon for the
destruction of the Autobots. That was for part
three. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I completely
forgot. I had the book sitting right here next
to me. And yeah, we didn't do that. So part four
goes into saying... This is just begging for
editing, honestly. I don't care, I don't care.
We'll fix it in post. No we won't! Yeah, yeah,
yeah, fix it in the editing. No, we won't. Oh
crap. Okay, part four. Galvatron arrives on goo
just in time to bring the Quintesson powered
Decepticons back to his side and immediately
threatens to kill the nearby Quintessons for
stealing his troops. The Quintessons calm the
Decepticon leader with the promise of the Decepticon
matrix of leadership. the two teams call a truce.
In a surprise move, Retgar attempts to rescue
the goo -bound Autobots seeking answers to the
mysteries of the Quintessons Rodimus Prime, takes
a dangerous journey into the Matrix once again
and learns the true origins of the Transformers.
So I must say in You know, very apologetically,
I don't know what I was thinking. This record
has been very off -the -wall. This has probably
got to be the most off -the -wall record that
I've had in 17 episodes. You can use my excuse
if you want. No, I don't have a cold, and yeah,
no, we're not doing that. Coughing pig disease.
I don't even remember where we were going with
this. What is this clip? We haven't... This is
supposed to be the part four synopsis. We haven't
actually gotten to the... our thoughts yet. We
could just bleed right into it. Nooo... Yeah,
no, because I don't want to have to edit it down,
so... Alright, up next is our thoughts on part
four. Alrighty, this is our thoughts for... five
faces of darkness part four which i could have
sworn we already recorded but we didn't um...
i have no notes other than what i put in the
synopsis but what do you get i i i have a few
actually the uh... there's a scene with galvatron
he says everyone and oh oh yeah yeah when they
go okay i i i'm not strung still your thunder
here but that i'd I do remember that scene when
they go to find where the Decepticons are, where
the Quinisons took them, and they get there.
Galvatron's like, shoot at them! And Cyclonus
is like, who? Everyone! Everyone! Now, this may
be another thing that you don't recognize right
off hand, but this reminded me immediately of
Gary Oldman in The Professional. Never saw it.
You never saw it? Oh, you have to run out and
see that. That was like, uh, I think it might
have been Natalie Portman's first movie. Uh,
but she was very young in it. She might have
been like 12. But it's, uh, there's a hit man
named Leon and he teaches Natalie Portman how
to be an assassin. And Gary Oldman is the crooked
cop who has to, uh, you know, find them and defeat
them. He eventually gets killed by Leon, but
what it comes down to is... Did he get killed?
I don't remember. But the comeback, full circle,
is... Gary Oldman is trying to get the professional
and he's talking to the police officer there
and he says, you know, what should we get? Should
we get vice squad? Should we get, you know, special
forces? And he kind of looks at him and says,
get me everyone. And the cop says, what do you
mean everyone? And he looks at him and his face
is pure strained anger. And he says, everyone!
You have to see the movie just for that scene.
Yes, I would just like to say the CFG1 podcast
and the Geekcast Radio Network are not responsible
for Michael Wilson's off -topic rantings. It's
not a rant, it's my fanboy rantings. Gary Oldman
is awesome. I mean honestly, if there was a...
Well, yeah, one of the actors that I would like
to meet the most. Gary Oldman would be up there
because everything I've seen him in ever has
been awesome Cool. Okay next on topic note Bugs
that transform into missiles Yeah, that's kind
of stupid. Yeah, and then the bugs transform
into the missiles and then they attack and then
they leave once the ship is destroyed Yep, and
then everyone's just kind of like weren't we
being attacked a minute ago by bugs that turn
into missiles because I I feel Sense of urgency
here, but I'm not sure why because we're not
being attacked anymore. I don't really understand
it Yes, and I must bring up skylinks And I actually
also must bring up a point that will be a special
feature at the end of this episode One of the
history clips at some of the end of the cartoons
uh... talks about the auto bots and reuniting
with some of their other people around the galaxy
so i can kind of discount the fact that they
introduced new characters without having to go
to vector sigma because they said that they were
already pre -existing that they just lost touch
with them so sky links was one of those but sky
links is the is basically tf a bumblebee with
a huge -ass chip on his shoulder. Skylinks thinks
he's all that. Basically, imagine TFA Bumblebee
in season one, where Bumblebee's like, I'm the
fastest thing alive and I can do whatever the
hell I want to do. That's pretty much Skylinks.
He thinks he's superior to everybody, which I
understand that's his character, but after a
while it really pissed me off. That was a very
good bumper Robinson there, actually. Nicely
done. But anyway, as I said before, they tend
to do a lot of standing around while under fire
in season three. Yeah, I don't get it. I just
don't know. And the other thing about this is
it's still an 80s cartoon. Most of the 80s cartoons
and television shows were, and A -Team is a perfect
example, fire at your feet. I miss everything.
Or if there's a chandelier or a large rock formation
above your head, they'll shoot at that instead.
Yes, exactly. Yeah, you get a lot of that too.
You got anything else? A few things. They had
a flashback when they're showing the history.
Oh yes, the history. Yeah, and they have eight
construction cons. Ah, I have a cold. Eight eight
construct icons who are building Megatron? When
they're talking about you know how Megatron came
to be Oh really was there eight there did not
know I counted well one of them might have been
a lamp pole But he was a very green and purple
lamp pole I Couldn't tell but I freeze framed
it and I was counting like I'm pretty sure it
was eight And I thought well where'd the other
ones go cuz that would have been that would have
been cool Yeah, but yeah, and then the other
thing is that? You know in the episode where
the aerial bots go back in time to the golden
age of Cybertron? Yeah. And they meet Alpha Trion,
but he's a very young Alpha Trion. And you really
don't recognize him because he's so young. But
then when it turns out that, oh, he's Alpha Trion
and he just built Optimus Prime. In this episode,
they go back and they meet the old Alpha Trion.
And I'm thinking, ooh, huge continuity error
there. can kind of probably distinguish that
because of the fact that I Mean I'm trying to
think how am I gonna word this they went back
to the big the very beginning Of of history As
far as that goes I believe I don't know I'd have
to watch it again. Yeah, you're probably right
I would have to watch it again. I don't remember
But actually they do that again later on in season
3 in in forever is a long time coming They show
a young alpha try on and they show him as a 3
right and then the and then because And I know
this is completely it's kind of off topic of
this episode, but obviously it's coming up on
the TFG one podcast, but You know they show superior
on in two different times at once to save everybody
and Superior on is the one that figures out a
three is alpha try on Yeah, well nobody else
knew but anyways, it's like Obi -Wan Kenobi.
Isn't he? Oh be one oh The Star Wars yeah, you
know I'm equal opportunity geek Yes, I am too,
but... The other thing I had noticed was all
ancient Autobots look like junkions. Yeah, pretty
much. Colorful junkions, but junkions nevertheless.
Did you notice in that scene that all of the
ones that were before Prime, majority of them...
They either have two models they have the prime
mold or they have the rotamus mold with a different
shaped face But it's basically the same type
of helmet I think I would have to go back and
watch it again But it seemed to me that they
use those two molds over and over and over again
the optimus head and the rotamus head, right?
Yeah And they just kind of change the sizes and
the shapes of the faces. Yeah, as they go back
in time. But another thing I noticed is the earlier
the head, the more they look like a Quintesson.
Their faces, I mean. Because the first face they
showed looked like a Quintesson face. Except
with a helmet around it. Which I thought was
kind of neat, but not something that... Most
people would notice. It's like, oh, he's awful
ugly. I wonder how he could have been the first
Prime. Yes, I don't really know. Yep. But that's,
oh, you know what? One more thing that I want
to throw out there is the fact that Erotema sucks.
And nobody respects him. I mean, I must admit,
and I will say this throughout the rest of season
three. Yeah. Rodimus is a whiny bitch as much
as I loved him in the movie. Yeah, it's cool
He is a he is a whiny bitch. Well, I loved hot
rod in the movie and Rodimus was in the movie
for all of about two minutes five minutes. Yeah,
and and so I mean they're there You just assume
that he was the second coming of prime and later
on in season three you find out No, he's not
the second coming of prime in fact He's sorely
aware that he's never going to be as good as
prime And at this point you have RC and Springer
talking with Rodimus or yeah And Springer's like,
oh leave the boy alone. Yeah, it's like he's
not the boy He's your fucking leader and you
will heave to and act like it The actual line
and I remember this I don't know why because
springer use springer's dumb fucking stupid cheating
ass Fucking home wrecker. He used a big fucking
word. He goes. I'll leave the boy alone RC Let
let the boy cogitate a bit and I'd say what the
fuck is it cogitate? But yeah Cogitate that's
what codgers do like him overall as the leader
that he is he does have some good points he has
a lot of bad points and one of those the majority
of it is the fact that he is a whiny bitch he
is truly oh this is what I was gonna say earlier
I was gonna go to a TFA reference and as much
as I hate Sentinel Prime Rodimus is truly not
the primer prime Yes, I will drink to that sir.
Yes. So is that all we have for the thoughts
on part four? I think it I think I've exhausted
my notes Okay Stranded on a Jovian moon blur
and wheelie were attacked by the deadly light
poles Continuing to scan I think I've spotted
them alive, but something's very wrong down there
Marissa Fairborn of Earth Defense Command flew
in to rescue them Get to the ship! But her ship
was destroyed. Now they're marooned with a transforming
cog leaving Autobot City defenseless. Meanwhile,
with the help of Rek 'gar, Rodimus Prime and
his companions fled from the attacking Decepticons
on Goo and headed for the planet Junkion. Very
well, Junkions. Then you will share the Autobot's
fate! To learn the secret of who the Quintessons
really are, Rodimus short -circuited himself
and went deep into the Autobot matrix of leadership,
embarking on a journey into - Cybertron's distant
past. He discovered that the Quintessons were
the creators of both the Autobots and the Decepticons.
Cybertron's in deadly danger. We're heading back
there. Now the Quintessons are intent on reclaiming
Cybertron at any cost. To do it, they begin a
deadly assault against both Earth and Cybertron
itself. Decepticons! The Decepticons will destroy
the Autobots! Then we will crush the Decepticon!
And soon, Cybertron will be ours! killing jar
whoops um let's see on earth a mammoth new shut
up a mammoth new decepticon shut up a mammoth
new decepticon named trypticon destroys the ark
and heads toward autobot city on cybertron a
decepticon armada attacks while the autobots
planetary defenses are down skylinks and the
predacons each head to secure the wayward transformation
cog but the quintessence have an ace up their
sleeve planning a betrayal of galveston in the
immediate destruction of all transform our life
on cybertron uh... yes that was the little booklet
synopsis and i can put that away until next week
or at least until monday if we're anyway uh...
alternate title sequence people second time and
this is the only time uh... episode let's see
was it three or four Episode three and five episode
or part three of five faces of darkness in part
five have an alternate title sequence That was
never shown again the original new title sequence
that was shown in parts one two and four is The
actual title sequence for the rest of season
three Depressing depressing depressing the arc
gets destroyed in this episode No, it doesn't
get better It doesn't get better. They blew up
the blowing up volcano Well, yeah trypticon stepped
on it And I'm gonna step on your ship too. Okay,
the Predacons are introduced in this episode.
It should be noted that the Quintessons send
the Predacons after Skyling, not the Decepticons.
And in every other episode, the Predacons are
with Galvatron, so what the fuck's up with that?
Did the Quintessons lend him out? I'd lend them
out and you hopefully you have the notes on what
the names of the damn Predacons are because the
only one I remember is I think tantrum and razor
claw and dive bomb so I got three out of five
I don't know anymore. You know, it's scaring
me too because I've got them on my shelf and
I'm looking at them and I'm trying to remember
who the last guy is. Oh, dude, it's bad when
you have a Transformers fan that has the actual
toys on his shelf that he can see them and he
can't remember the fucking name. And I got the
ones with the metal chest too. And they're complete.
They're in pristine condition. They're awesome.
And I can't remember the name offhand. I remember
Rampage and... Yeah. Okay, anyway, we can run
along. I would say that they did get their ass
kicked a little too easily. Yes, they did very
much so. That was a shame. Magnus knocks Durge
and Ramjet out in one punch. That just goes to
show you how good Ultra Magnus is as a warrior.
That goes to show you how little they think of
the Season 1 and 2 Transformers versus the movie
slash Season 3 Transformers. Yes, uh, yeah, that's
true. Even though they're not as good. Yes, yes,
yes. Throwing it out there. Plus their coneheads.
Um... Blitzwing heads to the Quinison ship to
give a status report, but before he can do this,
he learns of the full plan by them to double
-cross the Decepticons. However, before Blitzwing
can explain it to Galvatron, the leader punches
him for not obeying. Yeah fucking Galvatron if
Galvatron had if he had have learned that information
The story would have gone a complete different
way. Yeah Yeah Transformation cog football. Oh
God Transformation cog football. We all know
about your utter disdain for transformers playing
human sports It's not really that! It's just,
it's very nonsensical! It makes no friggin' sense!
You have a 40 -ton robot trying to play, uh,
uh, uh, sports with humans! Ugh! God, come on!
You know, with, uh, again, I'm gonna... Don't
make me bring up Powerglide and that fucking
merry -go -round. The, uh, the thing this reminded
me of was, uh, going way back, uh, Flash Gordon.
Uh, yeah, Flash Gordon, who is in the original
movie, who was a football player, and they were,
there's a scene in the movie where he's trying,
he's playing like, keep away with the poison,
uh, uh, doomsday device and trying to keep it
away from, uh, memes, minions. And they're throwing
it to, you know, amongst themselves, the good
guys versus the bad guys. I must actually go
back to one of the previous episodes today because
this actually comes back or actually this this
scene now with the cog football actually Kind
of it didn't really already happen, but when
spike Magnus and cup are captured and they're
walking Down the hall first of all the quintessence
did not put the energy bars on them like they
did cup and hot rod in the movie uh... so they
could pretty much transform whatever the hell
they wanted to but uh... spike ask asks magnus
in in the previous episode does he remember a
certain play and he goes uh... no and he turns
the company goes cut the remember that play uh...
no but in a situation like that all you can do
is Russian and pray and they start rushing them
and transforming and yeah but that's that's a
earlier episode uh... let's see what's the next
one here Okay, if all the Autobots in on earth
are inside Metroplex during the battle platform
city mode Where the hell are they when he's in
robot mode because he is shown transforming?
while they are in The city this isn't the fucking
Power Rangers where everyone has a seat in the
cockpit I think they do I think they do now that
I remember going back, but that's just a funny
line though. That's just a funny line of mine.
It's not the Power Rangers, the Power Rangers
were ripped off from the Transformers. I wouldn't
say that either. But I'm not going to go into
Power Rangers because we need five teens with
attitudes. It's like, no, I don't want attitude.
I don't want it. I think Metroplex is big enough
that everyone can stand up comfortably even in
robot mode. Yeah, probably. But now that I'm
remembering it, they were sitting in seats. So
if you've got somebody that was originally in
a leg of... In a part of Metroplex that turns
into his leg, you've got somebody sitting pretty
much face down, looking at the fucking toe of
the robot. Well, it's entirely possible that
they could have... Me when I go on when I fly
on Southwest Airlines, I always get the seat
facing away from the cockpit They have two different
seat rows of seats on on their airplanes one
of them faces the back and not the front so when
When when we're landing I am like leaning forward
almost over in the seat because I'm facing the
wrong way But I mean, it's the same thing. Anyway,
I don't know uh... uh... yeah yeah yeah uh...
galvatron yeah galvatron is a fucking moron not
listening to blitzwing and then pulling the lever
that will freeze all transformers in time oh
my god oh and the greatest thing on earth when
they froze they plum burned out they just don't
make them like they used to No. What kills me,
there's a giant off switch at the center of Cybertron.
That's exactly how I felt. Yeah. It's like, having
trouble breathing just hurts. Ow. Yes, yes. Giant
off. No, literally, it's a giant off switch.
Yes, it is. Bring me the head for a delay. He's
phoning it in at this point. Yeah, pretty much.
Spike pulls Rodimus' gun from his cold, frozen
hand and shoots the switch, reactivating the
Transformers and the Quints' escape. The episode
ends with Rodimus making a speech about the Decepticons
not being the only enemies that they have. And
I believe that is it for the synopsis. Unless
you have anything else to add to the synopsis?
Nope, just thoughts. Alrighty then. And now for
our thoughts on the final episode of Five Faces
of Darkness. What'd you think? But I think that
they were really going for an epic storyline
with with a lot going on And I just felt with
this ending they they they just dropped the ball
okay, yeah, and and I kind of agree because You
basically have a spider -man 3 problem here where
you have more than one villain And you have,
like, six different storylines going on with
different characters. You have Rodimus and his
whole team. You have Blurrin' Wheelie dealing
with Skylinx and being rescued. You have the
Earth team of Autobots. You have the Decepticons,
the Quinisons. And just, it's one giant clusterfuck
is what it is. Right, the rogue Blitzwing. You
can't decide who he wants to work for. Well,
he actually does say before Galvatron blasts
him that he could never, and then Galvatron blasts
him. Yeah, well, I kind of like that. I kind
of expected more from Blitzwing. I thought they
were going to do something cool with him, but
they didn't. And again, the ending was just so
anticlimactic. I was expecting to see something
like... You know, somebody jumps up and says,
see, humans are unpredictable. And all the quintessence
kind of shake their head and go, oh, we should
have known better. But no, normally, cartoons
like this beat you over the head with the moral
of the story. And this one just kind of glossed
over it. I think that the end speech, even though
it was kind of anti -climatic, it's something
good that, you know, The lesson learned out of
it is you don't just have one enemy or you just
don't have to worry about one thing in the universe.
You have to worry about multiple things. I think
overall, and we can give our thoughts on this
because I think this is pretty much the end of
the episode discussions and stuff. Overall, all
five parts I really enjoyed. I've watched them
about six times, so I'm kind of like burnt out
on them, but Yeah, and short of going back and
saying my favorite scene in the movie is Rodimus
Galvatron battle No, I was putting that in there
because you keep complaining about the fact that
I kept saying it over and over again. Overall,
I think Five Faces of Darkness was a good starting
point for season 3. There are a lot of season
3 episodes that we will be getting into come
episode 18 and 19 that I absolutely fucking hate.
Just because they just don't... It's like you
said... with part five you think the writers
dropped the ball there are some episodes where
i think the writers basically dug a hole and
dropped the ball all the way through to fucking
china i mean just because it is so god awful
it's like i could have written a better one yeah
really no no i'm saying yeah yeah really you
probably could have but overall As a beginning
to season 3, introducing all the new characters,
I did enjoy Five Faces of Darkness. So yeah,
that's pretty much all I have. What else you
got? Uh, Trypticon. Yeah, Trypticon was cool.
Trypticon looks like a guy in a Godzilla suit.
No, Trypticon is a metal guy in a Godzilla suit.
He's Mechagodzilla. He's Mechagodzilla. That's
what I mean. It was just very poorly animated.
I wasn't really thrilled with that, but... uh...
i did like the triptychon versus metroplex scenes
yes those are actually pretty good and those
are actually reference later in the series yeah
i believe it's grimlock that says he wants to
see i forget which episode it is it's coming
up i don't know if it's next uh... next episode
or the episode afterwards but uh... grimlock
says to teletran he wants to see uh... the scene
where metroplex finishes off triptychon uh...
by throwing him in the ocean and uh... teletran
will get into it but yeah i mean uh... but at
least they're doing at least they're doing continuity
at least they're not just doing i mean that there
are a couple single storyline like you know one
-shot stories but at least they're you know taking
stuff from previous episodes which i do like
yeah i like that So that has been this has been
five faces of darkness and Yeah, I think that's
all I have unless you want to and do you have
anything else? Well, you know, you gotta think
about it when you were little and Transformers
only came on once once a week Every morning was
it every morning 6 a .m. Monday through Friday
Let's say I didn't think that happened until
I went into syndication. Oh, well then, well
I guess I must have caught it in syndication
then. I didn't realize it was once a week because
I thought it was on Monday. I might be wrong.
I'm thinking it's just like Saturday morning
cartoons, but no, I think it was like every day.
Maybe it was every day, but I'm thinking that
if it was once a week, this would have taken
five weeks to get through. Yeah. And that, that
would've really sucked. Yeah. Yeah, that would've
really sucked. It's like, wait a minute, I waited
five weeks for this crappy ending? Yeah. It's
like, you know, I'm... Yeah, but as a kid, you're
not gonna see it as a crappy ending, because
I mean, okay, when this would've aired, this
was 87, I was seven years old. So, I mean, I
was still very impressionable by Transformers
in general. Yeah. by the cartoon and i'd i didn't
really think about any i'd just thought all giant
guns giant robots fighting each other awesome
yeah now that that's true you don't really see
it with a critical eye until much later so here
i am to ruin it for all the little kids who haven't
actually seen it yet you old drunk bastard i
was sobered up long before Yeah, the podcast
started. Yes, I know. This thing is how you have
a cold! Well, the thing is, I thought I'd have
a couple glasses of wine, watch a DVD, settle
in for the night, and it's like, awk. I completely
forgot I was going to hang out with you tonight.
Yeah, he basically almost ditched me, folks.
Aw man, that's such a hateful, hateful way to
put it. But yeah, it's true. No, no, but yeah,
it's true. Again the TFG1 podcast is not responsible
by anything Michael Wilson says on this podcast
So I think we are going to close this episode
out All right, this has been episode 17 the TFG1
podcast just want to let everyone know Following
this little voice clip that I'm doing here. You
will hear the Autobot Decepticon Predacon and
cassette tape Transformers history audio so that's
what's coming up next and then probably some
commercials and then the end fleeing the wars
that devastated their home planet of Cybertron
most of the Autobots made Earth their temporary
home Under the leadership of the powerful robot
Optimus Prime, the heroic Autobots battled fearlessly
against the assaults of the evil Decepticons,
protecting their new human friends. Now it is
the year 2006, and the Autobots have reclaimed
the planet of their origin, Cybertron, to establish
a new Golden Age. In migrating from Earth, they
have been reunited with companions from other
regions of the galaxy, including Skylinx, the
gigantic space shuttle. Blurred. the fastest
car on wheels cup the flinty old warrior wheelie
who always offers advice and rhymes sprinter
the mighty helicopter, Arcee, a forceful female
Autobot, and Wreckgar, the leader of a tribe
of Autobots that dwells on the planet Junkion.
The Autobots have a new leader, Rodimus Prime,
who inherited from Optimus Prime the Autobot
Matrix of Leadership. As a receptacle of the
wisdom of Autobot leaders for the past millions
of years, the Matrix helps Rodimus guide the
Autobots in their darkest hours as they fight
to end the tyranny of the evil Decepticons. The
Decepticons are a malevolent race of robot warriors.
Brutal and merciless, the Decepticons are driven
by a single, undeviating goal. Total domination
of the universe. In the war that raged between
the Decepticons and Autobots for millions of
years, their home planet of Cybertron was drained
of its once rich sources of energy. In hopes
of finding new reserves for making Energon their
basic fuel, the Decepticons follow the Autobots
to Earth. Huh? What is it? Laserbeak, prepare
for flight. Operation destruction. Fire it! Fire
it! Under the leadership of the ruthless Megatron,
they continued their efforts to destroy the remaining
Autobot forces. They attacked. throughout the
Earth and in space using their underwater Decepticon
headquarters as their staging base and bunker.
But, by the year 2000, the Decepticons had proven
to be the losers of the last great war. In an
attempt to bolster the Decepticon's strength,
the evil planet -gobbling world Unicron reformed
Megatron into a new robot named Galvatron to
lead the Decepticons in a new era. Now, in 2006,
the Decepticons have retreated to a burned -out
hulk of a planet called Char, a world of ash
and ruin. Galvatron and his Decepticon lieutenants,
the sleek and awesome Cyclonus and the mighty
Scourge, the master of the dreaded sweeps, strike
fear throughout the universe. Their ultimate
goal? To reconquer Cybertron and destroy the
Autobots. From the secret files of Teletran 2.
In the days of Megatron, Decepticons developed
the art of espionage using cassette technology.
Their first cassette, LaserBeak, could fly undetected
into any Autobot stronghold, record information
and then return to base. Then, the Decepticons
decided to increase their spying abilities with
Ratbat. As a bat, Ratbat can hide in crevices
that Laserbeak can't reach, and he's especially
effective in tunnels, caves, or in the darkness
of space. Ratbat reports on the Autobots' most
carefully guarded secrets. The Autobots had no
choice but to strike back at these Decepticon
techniques of stealth, building a force of cassette
Transformers of their own, with Blaster as their
guardian. They constructed Ramhorn, Rhino, who
can use animalistic force if cornered, and Steeljaw,
the lion, who can crawl through the foliage of
any alien world to sneak up on Decepticons. They
also bolster their cassette force with Rewind
and Eject, who can transform to robot mode and
use more conventional fighting force techniques.
The untamed forces of nature, the Predacons are
ferocious animal robots who lash out with fury.
Swift, savage, and always relying on animal instinct,
the Predacons explode into action. There's Dive
Bomb, the eagle who can spot a target from a
mile up in the sky. Rampage, the tiger who can
leap 500 feet. Headstrong, the rhino whose horn
can puncture eight feet of solid rock. Tantrum,
the buffalo who loves to use brute force. And
there's the Predacon commander, Razor Claw, whose
claws can whip through steel. Together, they
combine into a hair -trigger horror, the giant
robot Predaking. Predacons! Merge to become Predaking!
As a warrior, Predaking has no equal. As a weapon,
he has no known weaknesses. He can lift 500 tons
without even straining a circuit. With the help
of the Predacons, no planet is too wild or untamed
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have embarked on a journey into Cybertron's distant
past. Prepare to look into the face of your creator!
Eons ago, Cybertron was a factory. built by the
Quintessons to manufacture robots. There were
two product lines. Military hardware and consumer
goods. These two product lines were the lineal
ancestors of the Decepticons and the Autobots.
In time, the Quintessons endowed their products
with a simulated intelligence. Now... The machines
could manufacture themselves. And before long,
they grew too lazy and greedy to bother even
with that. There were simpler ways to wring performance
out of their slaves. The Quintessons simply recycled
it on the spot. Quintessons also used the robots
to entertain them. The Shun was pitted against
the Shun in gladiatorial combat. Some of us,
however, found this pointless combat repellent
and sought to put a stop to it. We failed. But
the seeds of revolt had been planted. and would
one day yield a terrible harvest. What the Quintessons
failed to grasp was that their robots had developed
emotions that knew and felt the difference between
freedom and slavery. And that oversight sealed
their fate. For a time, the robots lived in harmony.
But this did not last. The former consumer goods
who called themselves Autobots sought a peaceful
existence, while the military hardware wanted
conquest. And they got their way. For centuries,
they tyrannized the Autobots, knowing we could
never defeat the Decepticons with firepower.
We turned to stealth and invented the art of
transforming The Autobots rule for many centuries,
but in time the Decepticons also learned how
to transform Thus one fateful night Far below
the city, Megatron was born. The Matrix was passed
to Alpha Trion, the oldest of Autobots, who kept
it safely hidden for many years, until the next
Autobot leader appeared, a gentle robot known
as Orion Pax, who was fated to become Optimus
Prime. And so began the Third Cybertronian War,
which ranges to this day. And the Quintessons
are our creators. Through all these centuries,
they have waited for the proper moment to strike,
to reclaim the planet that we Transformers took
from them. And now they're going for the gusto,
right? Do not forget what you've learned of our
past, Rodimus. From its lessons, the future is
forged. That is all for this episode of the TFG1
podcast Join us next time when we will be reviewing
five more episodes from Transformers generation
one season three those being the killing jar
chaos dark awakening zombie prime Surprise party
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