Andor Season 2 Episodes 1–3 Review

This is Craig Miller, director of Star Wars Fan

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back into our studio. You are now inside Studio

2009. I am of course TF2 and Mike and Jeremy

once again, as always, welcoming back Mr. Dave

Draper. Hi Dave, how are you? I'm good. How are

you? I have friends everywhere. Yes, you have

friends everywhere. Friends all over the galaxy,

that's right. Galaxy of Friends, we're here and

we're no longer waiting. He doesn't know people

because he hasn't seen the episode. But I like

that. I like not knowing. I like going into it

fresh. I like being surprised. I went into it

not knowing because I watched it when it happened.

Yes, yes. The internet is a horrible, horrible

place that will ruin stuff for you for their

own twisted amusement. All right, folks. I just

ripped the curtain back. I don't know, but I'm

pretty sure because Dave and I have known each

other for about 15 or 14 or 15 years now. I was

born with brain damage. I don't think Dave was

born with brain damage, but I know I was. Half

the time, I don't remember what happened to me

25 minutes ago, let alone. Mean, I think that's

a that's that's a thing that you know, you get

to a certain age and that's just no, it's not

No, no. No. Yeah. Yeah, generally I would normally

I would agree with you if Certain events had

not come to light for me seven years ago with

my brain But like like I don't that's why spoilers

don't I'm not saying this thing that I'm not

dismissing what what you have right is I for

like at least a decade I you know, I'm one of

those people that can walk into a room and be

like Why did I walk into this room? I literally

will celebrate if I can remember what I played.

I will pick up my phone or my tablet and be like,

okay, I want to look this thing up. And then

you see something else and you get distracted

for two seconds and then you're like, wait, what

was I looking for? I don't know that I had brain

damage per se. I do know that my mother was very

fond of laughing about the fact that when she

was pregnant with me, it was before they knew

that uh drinking and smoking was bad for babies

uh you thought this was hilarious that's not

funny yeah no it was yeah as the recipient of

all that it was not really humorous to me no

no not not so i have you know i have no idea

like what can i say same thing with me uh but

the thing with me is though like for me i like

for Specifically if i'm just watching something

and watch it with you i understand that but i

want the audience to understand like for me.

I can't and i think i've mentioned this before

in the last seventeen years that i've been podcasting

i cannot watch something brand new to me. Just

to watch it and then to pot then to rewatch it

again and to podcast about it later. I have like,

I watch things to podcast about them. So I have

to have like, I could, and I, I'm not one of

those people that can wait a week for three episodes

or wait a week for one episode. Netflix ruined

me on that. back in 2008 -2009 when they're like,

here, here's 26 episodes all at once, binge,

bitch. And I'm like, okay, I'll binge. I binge,

I don't wait. So I will wait to binge, that's

what I wait on. So I waited until all 12 episodes

of Andor season two were on Disney Plus because

I was not, and if somebody out there on the internet

does a meet, half the time I've, Curated my social

media the point where i don't see half that crap

and if i did see it i probably wouldn't remember

it at this point. So i like going into it fresh

cuz i like having the fresh oh my god. Reaction

to it so today like this one was. As you know

if you've listened to the previous episode or

a lot of a lot of the star wars related episodes

this this was my like this was my big thing for

this year. Like, more than any other movie or

TV show, this was the thing I was looking forward

to the most. Yeah, there was no way I was going

to have the self -control to wait. And I understand

that and I respect it. So we head once again

to a galaxy far, far away as we continue on in

the 12 months of Star Wars spotlight here inside

Studio 2009. Not just because it says a twelve

months of star wars spotlight folks doesn't mean

it's gonna be january december it could be. May

to whatever it's just what the spotlight is called

hopefully we will get twelve months of content

out of it. I was we want usually we do i usually

try our best to you know make sure we get. Enough

out of it to make it usually the twelve months

and we usually will and there's gonna be plenty

of stuff cuz I know I can we did it on each of

the mood there there are eleven movies. Yes.

So i mean that's what the that's the then then

we did the soundtracks and we did a bunch of

the show yeah we've listened to one of mine like

we've got we've got maybe two years worth of

stuff oh yeah and we have any i don't even think

we've touched mando yet. I don't even think we

went. Did we do man? We've done some. OK, I don't

remember. We've done. That's right. Skeleton

crew. I think we haven't. No, we haven't done

skeleton crew yet because I haven't watched it

yet. I remember that. Yeah, we don't remind me.

Yeah, well, that's that's one of those like if

someone wants to like general generously donate

a bunch of money. Yeah, Mike's willing to split

it. I'll consider it. Yeah. No, we did it. We

did not do Acolyte. Yes, we did. I never watched

Acolyte. You didn't? Oh, I know what it was.

I know what it was. I did a yeah. You did your

own. You did your own. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You

went rogue. You went rogue one. Bringing us back

to the subject of Cassian Andor. Absolutely.

Andor season two. And now, holy crap. oh boy

i because it's been a year since the first season

or a year since we covered the first season i

almost completely forgot about half other than

bix and b2 and cassian himself and mon mothma

because no one can never forget mon mothma i

completely forgot half the other characters Like

who the hell is that? Oh, that's who that all

right, right, right like um, what's his name?

That literally I I kid you You are gonna you

you are gonna scold the hell out of me for this

no The the general dude that's talked the the

big jet. I think it is it Fennec did not know

the guy from rub one. Yes, I think yeah Orson

Krennic. Yeah Krennic I thought that was a non

blue skinned, uh, uh, on Ron. Yes. Wow. For half

a second. It's just the way he's in one of these,

in one of these first three episodes. And then

when in this first arc, just one of the ways

he spoke to one of the other people, I was like,

wait, is that, he doesn't have his blue skin

on what the, Oh, right. That's not okay. Wait,

wait a minute. What's going on here? He took

a shower and left. They forgot to put his skin

back on. Yeah. It's like there is something interesting

about chronic this this season. Well, first of

all, he's in it because he was yes one and second

one of the things he talked about was the whole

reason he did this is because in Rogue one He's

kind of inferior to all the characters he interacts

with he interacts with Tarkin and Vader and he's

kind of right in it Whereas in in and or he's

the guy at the top of the food chain So it is

interesting like and and in watching watching

it in order it is interesting because he you

know, if you watch, you know End or season two

and then rogue one. He's at the top of the food

chain and then suddenly he he there's always

a bigger fish Yeah in Star Wars, but it's interesting

but his behavior his mannerism so you get to

see him both with inferiors and superiors Doesn't

he does he does not like not being the superior

here. Yeah Yes Oh boy, alright, so where do we

want to start with this? Obviously we start with

the first episode We pick up one year later I

Okay, so What do we have working on Andor? Let's

see. I want to make sure I have this right just

because I want to make sure Yeah, it's Tony Gilroy.

Yep, which absolutely love him He did a fantastic

job. He came in to clean up Rogue One. Like,

it was originally Gareth Edwards. Right. And

he kind of came in and did like a second kind

of song. Yep. It's hard to say what was his and

what was Edwards, but he did all of Andor. Yep.

Yep, yep. And the first three, yeah, so the first

three episodes were all written by Tony Gilroy.

I think all the other first three episodes were

written by him the second three episodes were

written by dan gilroy i don't want to assume

that's his brother i think it is i think that

i think that's okay i could be a cousin could

be what i don't want to assume but. I don't know

so the reason why i'm saying this is because.

Maybe we maybe and you'll remind me because.

You are the Star Wars encyclopedia between the

two of us. In Rogue One, is that where the TIE

Avenger first debuted or did it first debut in

Andor? I think it debuted in Rebels. Oh, OK.

Because I'm trying to remember. The Avenger has

never appeared in live action that I know of.

Until now. Until now. I was a little disappointed

because I was like, why couldn't it be the Defender?

Is it maybe Hacker would make one? And apparently

the Defender showed up in Rebels. I was like,

they didn't make one. Why? Because the Defender,

and I think the Avenger 2 is also from a video

game, TIE Fighter. I don't know what the Defender

is, because the Defender is like the ship you

want when you're a TIE Fighter pilot. It's beautiful.

It's got shields. Yeah, so and but yeah, so we

start with this we start on planet senior Which

I didn't know was a planet knew there was a company

called senior fleet systems who make the TIE

fighters, right? Apparently they're called that

because they're on the planet Senar senior I

would say senior and And they are they're building

the TIE Avengers a prototype and from from what

I've read from the uber nerds You call me encyclopedia

man. I'm I'm I'm more like a Wikipedia, well

not Wikipedia, but I'm a, we discussed this with

the servers in the forest, I'm like a middle

man when it comes to Star Wars autism. But according

to the uber nerds, the Avenger that appears in

Andor is much more heavily armed than has canonically

appeared in whatever cartoon or video game they

appeared in. Yeah, it's got missiles on the wings.

It's got gatling guns. It's got a weird little

drop -down laser Star Trek phaser Yeah Yeah But

yeah, we start off and or is on senior I need

to be a test pilot and there's a tech who's like

running some final check for the night of the

thing She's in on it. Yep. Um, she she's the

one that she's like the contact there They have

it they have a very sweet little scene together

People complain that the first arc doesn't really

connect, you can skip it, it's not as good as

the rest of it. But I kind of disagree, I think

it kind of sets a lot of the themes. Part of

it is that Andor is a guy who still cares about

people, which will contrast with Luthen. And

so he's trying to encourage her to... he's just

trying to like you know keep her spirits up and

tell her you know and and she has a line she

has a line that hits below the belt for me which

is promise me it's gonna be worth it because

i've seen the sequel series sequel trilogy so

yeah like every time i say it's worth it it's

like no it's not you failed you fumbled the ball

but but in my in in in my stubborn autistic Little

those don't count. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no. I'm not listening to you Where the series

ends after Mandalorian season two? Yeah, it was

worth it. It was worth it. That's right But Because

I I don't really said I had said I've watched

rebels years ago now I'm going to rewatch it

at some point so we can cover it on over on tooncast

at some point. Maybe this year. I don't know

when but When I saw the ship I was like oh Interesting

a Tie fighter that actually look I like look

I love the original tie fighters. They look imposing

as hell but this thing is like Tie fighter on

steroids. Like you said, I mean, it's it's a

beast. It's like And I'm like, oh I wonder what

that like I know it's a tie fighter but what

did it and I look at tie fighter Avenger Oh Disney

Marvel crossover. I wonder what multicolor thing

they could make that No, no, no, I know I know

but I'm just saying, you know They would do that

at some point to try to cross it over. They got

to make that money They should have made it a

defender and then made the toy. I would have

bought it. Absolutely Yeah, like I think I think

some of it is Again, the the video I saw about

this the guy was saying that because it's a prototype.

It's a little more What's the word they use in

the car industry? It's a little more feature

-laden Than the production miles would be because

the whole point of a tie fighters is cheap Yeah,

that's a lot of them. Yeah, just throw a billion

of them at the enemy Yeah, like this, this, this

probably would be a little more expensive. This

is a little luxury car. This is like the Lamborghini.

Yeah. This is the Lamborghini where you're used

to Yugo's. Yeah. First thing that pops into my

head is this is the Cadillac of, of TIE fighters.

And next thing that pops into my head is our

old Robin Williams movie Cadillac, man. I wonder

how, how well Robin's character from that movie

would sell that TIE fighter. Oh boy, but getting

back to to and or here. Yeah these first three

episodes I We start with kind of like it's kind

of like to me It's almost I was very cynical

about it because it's like everyone complained

about the first season being slow and boring

and it starts off with a tie fighter heist and

these fighting tie fighters and zip zap and spaceships

and pita and Look action shiny things jingle

keys. Yep, like okay. I mean, it was still kind

of cool But like that's very cool. And the whole

thing is the whole thing is this thing is so

weird and new and prototypical that when he gets

in the thing, he doesn't know how to fly it.

Nobody knows how to fly it. There's no seat.

He's like, what the hell? What do I sit? He finally

gets the seat to deploy. And then when he tries

to like weird. And when he tries to like fly

it, he doesn't as someone who's played, but,

you know, Star Wars games, I know full well you

push one way and the ship goes backwards. I've

done that I was completely sympathetic to that

and we got some range troopers from solo Yeah,

the the guys in the furry stormtrooper outfits

and they were the guys with a rocket launcher

Which is weird because there's a stormtrooper

with a rocket launcher figure coming up soon,

but he's not a range trooper So I was like, oh,

but um He steals the thing and he Kind of his

flying around in canyons being chased by TIE

fighters and finally he gets rid of them gets

up and goes into hyperspace Yep, and the other

The other big story arc, that's that that early

bit is uh, there's the dot the wedding from Mothma's

daughter Yep, which is the whole thing which

is the whole thing that I Well, it's all about

It's all about the sacrifice. Yeah, it's all

about the sacrifice. She made she's she literally

sacrificed her daughter for the rebellion. Yeah

And at one point like, you know, there's this

whole elaborate marriage custom on Chandrili.

Yeah And, you know, it's like a three day affair.

And the guy from last season, the banker guy,

Tay, who's her childhood friend who helped her

kind of help kind of move around funds and helped

her cover the fact that she's giving all this

money to the rebellion. His life has not been

going very well lately, partly because the rebellion

has screwed up his investments. Yeah. And ironically,

as we're recording this, there's a little thing

at the bottom of the computer screen, which is

giving me updates on my investments. And it's

like, oh, well, I have regrets. But, you know,

and he's drunk all the time, his wife left him,

and it's implied that he's hitting her up for

money. At the same time, the father of the groom,

who's a chandelier gangster, has brought Luther

to the wedding. Because Luther's cover is that

he's an antiques dealer. So he brings like this

super rare antique as part of a gift for the

couple. And part of it is she's really freaked

out and upset because her friend Tay is having

financial disaster. He's witnessing this huge

party and all these expensive things and this

rare priceless statue that's being given to them.

And it's kind of hard for him not to be bitter

and screwed up and drunk. And Lutheran's a little

worried that Tay is going to screw things up

for them. Because he's be he's become unstable.

So there's there's a lot going it's it's it's

really focused on the price that she is paying

to do the things she's doing within the system

and knock it down and there's there's even a

moment there's a couple moments where her daughter

has issues and You know, she goes to comfort

her and then later like right before the big

moment where they've got to commit where they've

got the wedding ceremony I'm jumping around in

episodes, but mm -hmm on Martha basically tells

her look we don't have to do this You can take

it off I will understand and of course the daughter

has been this whole thing about tradition and

you know very kind of hardcore old school thing

and she's just like you know Mothma's like you

know my mom was drunk and tried to screw up my

thing and I I wish I'd listened to her and she's

like I wish you were and the daughter says I

wish you were drunk and like really coldly so

she goes through with it part of the Chandrili

wedding tradition is to steal a knife from a

guy I give you this knife I will not give you

the knife back Some of my notes throughout the

three episodes for episode one I like I said

before I That ship is the best tie fighter that

there is ever been no lies You've never on screen

I'll never live action. I'll give you that because

we've never seen a defender yet like live action

Yeah on screen live action. This is the best

we've ever seen The when he lands to find his

friend on whichever moon planet or jungle point

the jungle planet Did you get the did you get

the reference? For the jungle planet you mean

yeah, isn't it supposed to be oh? It's not all

Eucharist isn't transformers. It can't be that

What is it? I forget it's yavin It is yavin,

okay It's a place where they're gonna build the

rebel base later, but they're not there yet Wait,

so that's that whole point. That's the whole

point of him when he we all right There's like

when he we his whole thing is he supposed to

transfer the tie Avenger fighter to the thing

to the guy He's supposed to switch with another

guy and then go home on his ship. Yeah the first

season He lands he sees that his ship has been

screwed up. It's been damaged and he can't find

the guy It turns out there's a group of rebels

from a different faction. Yeah My pay actually.

Yeah, the my pay. Yep. He's heard of it, but

my but my pay has been killed Apparently. Yeah,

I still like I've seen this thing twice and like

I still never got the full story Yeah, but like

they they they they there was something went

wrong and they managed to escape and they crashed

in this planet So and they think he's an imperial

test pod No, because they're the whole point

is these guys are kind of stupid and leaderless

Yeah, they've been trapped there for two days

which is a great moment he's like how do you

know we've been here for two days like because

you weren't here when i was here three days ago

exactly they don't have any food and they don't

have you know and they're they're just like they're

he does everything he can to keep them alive

as long as it's like yeah they treat him as a

prisoner treat him like crap he's like uh it's

raining right now you should collect water while

you can yeah exactly yeah um but the group fractures

and turn on each other because they have no way

to get off because the whole thing is the tie

fighter is not big enough to hold It's actually

unusually roomy for a TIE fighter. It can hold

like three or four people, but there's like a

dozen of them. Yep. They also don't have anybody

who can pilot the thing. Cause I mean, Andorra

can barely pilot the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Uh, and the funny thing is like, I thought they

got caught. I thought stormtroopers landed when

I was watching. No, seriously. I thought they

got caught. I didn't realize it was going to

be what it was. this whole time that they ended

up going against each other and and and splitting

apart and becoming two factions and whatever

else and they just you know north versus south

and All that and whatever else and we're supposed

to all be on the same end or old ship And that's

the fact that has and or it's a prisoner the

other factions pulled up in the the tie fighter

in the tie fighter, right? But at one point I

thought Because it was dark and whatever. I thought

they were all running from something that had

shown up. Nothing showed up. It was a giant local

Yavin monster. I actually checked my books. He's

not in any of them. Okay. I could find. Right.

But what I'm saying is I thought the blast that

came from when the Yavin monster showed up, I

didn't think it was a damn monster. I thought

it was a fucking Stormtrooper. I thought the

Empire showed up at the time when that that first

blast came off from the one of the rebels. I

didn't realize it was a rebel that did the first

shot. I didn't realize it was that. I thought

it was the day I caught. So when I finally realized,

oh, they turned on themselves. Roll on the same

like they keep asking and or whose side are you

on? Who are you with blah blah blah blah? He

keeps saying the rebellion what rebellion another

rebellion is like Which rebellion there's only

one rebellion. Oh, no, there's not Okay, you've

missed the entire point of the of the first and

second season There are multiple factions All

right. Well, yes, there are okay, you know, it's

called the rebel Alliance Yes. Part of this season

is about the Alliance becoming an Alliance. An

Alliance means a group of people who came together.

Yeah, I know. Well, okay. But right now they're

not the Rebel Alliance. They're the My Pay faction.

They're the Saw Gerrera faction. And Luthen has

been supplying and dealing with all these factions.

And part of it is that they got to come together

under a single leadership. And they haven't done

that yet. They haven't done that yet Okay, see

I guess I kept jumping ahead in my in my brain

where it's like but I've had friends who have

been like what's going on with this it's like

This is why I'm used with it's the rebel Alliance,

but the Alliance isn't the Alliance yet. It's

just a bunch of guys Yeah, that's the whole point.

That's the whole point of the sequence is that

the Alliance isn't the Alliance yet It's a bunch

of guys and they're and they don't have leadership

Yeah, one of the things I like about the first

two episodes is the endings. Of the constant

escapes he does. Yeah, at the end of each one,

like that's the the episode one one, especially

like that left me like, oh, wow, like I was on

the edge of my seat with that. The second one

was OK. It was good. It wasn't as good as the

first episode. The point is, like you're supposed

to go, wow, you see the temple. Yeah, you're

supposed to go. Oh, it was Yavin all along. Yeah.

Yeah, it was Yavin all along. But did we... Wasn't...

Weren't we on the... Okay, so I know we were

on the moon of Endor. Weren't we on a moon of

Yavin at the time? Yeah, Yavin 4, the fourth

moon. Yeah, we were on Yavin 4. But we were never

on Yavin itself until now. No, Yavin's a gas

giant. Yeah. So then what's... Okay, I'm using

terminology a little loosely. Okay, I understand.

I'm just trying to under... Yeah, that's fine.

I just want to make sure I've got it right, because

I want to make... Yeah. That's all. Yavin 4,

the fourth moon of Yavin. Okay. That's what I

thought happened. That's the whole ending of

Star Wars is they got a guess on the gas giant

They got to get around the gap. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Got it. Got it. Got it But no the this first

arc there was only like And we still haven't

talked about like the the third thing are the

survivors from ferrex minus the weird Preacher

not preacher, but like cleric lady who went with

them. She's going yeah But they're they they're

they've been transferred to some little agricultural

planet which made me remember which made me think

of stupid Zack Snyder's rebel moon as it was

obsessed with grain and the green planet and

that's where they all live and There's kind of

a little bit about Refugee labor and then they're

starting to crack down. Is there you know, does

the Empire is cracking down? Yeah, they're like

they they're not safe where they're at So they've

got to like move but they've kind of gotten comfortable

there the the young guy willman Has uh, he's

he's the guy from from the first season who threw

the bomb Hit the crater grenades. Oh, yeah That's

the kid and he's hooked up with a local girl

And Barasso, who is Andor's buddy, has a girlfriend.

And even Beemo has a little yellow robot that

he likes to play catch with, or not catch, tag

with. But they're trying to move around to avoid

being caught because they don't have any paperwork.

They're illegal immigrants, basically. Literally.

Essentially, yeah. It's interesting because there's

a scene that has really divided the fandom and

caused some confusion. Which is the Empire finally

shows up and causes all kinds of trouble and

there's this whole other thing that we may or

may not talk about in a minute, but Barasso gets

caught and there's a local farmer guy that's

been helping them and Barasso suddenly starts

yelling at him in front of the stormtroopers,

I can't believe you stole this out, you son of

a bitch, I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna get

you. And I don't think people, some people are

like, oh my God, that guy stole them out and

it's like, no, Barasso's lying. He's covering

that the farmer guy doesn't get in trouble. And

I don't think people get that. I think they're

like, oh my God, he sold them out. What a jerk.

It's like, no. He's saying that so that the guy

that's been helping them won't get in trouble.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And the whole thing is they've

been waiting for Cassie to come back. And Cassie

hasn't come back yet because she's been trapped

on Yavin. Yeah. Schmucks. Yeah. And then there's

the other thing. Which which everybody like it

was it definitely after that was first episodes

aired was all anybody wanted to talk about and

You know, I mean are we allowed to use were are

we allowed to use growing up words on this podcast?

Oh, yes. Yes Facebook rules. No, no, this is

explicit Hello everyone, it is I TF2 and Mike

coming to you in the middle of this podcast episode

to let you know that what myself and Dave Draper

are going to talk about is the rape stuff that

happened in Andor's season two. It is very, we

don't talk about it very long, but I just wanted

to let you know that this is an explicit podcast.

We talk about everything. We are all adults here.

So You know, just wanted to clear the air here

and let y 'all know that this is an explicit

podcast and we will talk about certain topics.

And again, we don't spend too much time on it,

but if it happens in certain things that we watch.

We will discuss it because it is part of the

character's journey. It's part of Bix's journey

in Andor. So that's what is coming up right now

in this part of the discussion. You have been

warned. If you choose not to listen to it, you

can probably either stop the podcast or you can

fast forward maybe a minute, a minute and a half,

maybe a little bit longer than that. I'm not

sure, but in the editing of this episode, I wanted

to throw this little clip in here just to let

y 'all know. And I know Dave and I have said

this in the clip, but I wanted to throw this

extra bit in here as I'm editing this to let

you know. Thanks for listening as always. Y 'all

are amazing. We love y 'all and we love podcasting

for ourselves and for you guys who listen to

our podcasts here at the GeekCast Radio Network

on with the show. So, so the word and the concept

of rape. Is now officially in star wars and was

brought to you by the good people at disney.

Yeah that's not there's a imperial lieutenant.

Who likes bix a little too much. And i will creepy

and the first is a little creepy and then when

he comes back he goes full on sexual assault.

I was hoping that was not going to be a thing

i was really i mean i was like. It was enough

that they implied he was being creepy about it,

I thought. Yeah. But fortunately, I mean, Bix

has still got scars from last season. She does

not tolerate this nonsense. No, she does not.

She messes him up. And then when his driver shows

up, he's like, you killed him. She says, he tried

to rape me. The actual word is now part of the

Star Wars game. It's interesting. The most interesting

thing I saw about this was it was a panel of

guys. Talking about you know like oh this blah

blah blah, and and they're like they should have

used a Star Wars word for it You know like like

a past our galactica. They use frack instead

of fuck Yeah, it's funny because there was one

woman on the panel, and she kept quiet through

the whole discussion and finally the very end.

She's like look I'm glad they used. I'm glad

they didn't use some cute Star Wars word for

what it was I'm glad they called it what it was

Absolutely, I am like okay. Well. I mean I still

like it's a thing that I It's you know, it's

people kind of applied with the scene with Jabba

and Princess Leia, but there was creepy unwanted

stuff Yeah, I think the thing with Star Wars

is that it's one thing to imply. It's another

thing to like just go full bore I Do sort of

think that maybe and or went a little for a little

full bore But once they did you couldn't shy

away from it Yeah, once they yeah once they did

you could not close once they open that door

They couldn't close it and they had to do it

In a real world kind of way, you couldn't Star

Wars your way out of that. And I'm glad they

didn't at the same time. It feels really, it

feels very weird and inappropriate. And I am

ladies and gentlemen, even though you're hearing

this now in the middle of the podcast, I will

be putting a warning. Pre -recorded thing at

the beginning of the podcast about this, because

I honestly think That episode should have had

like that episode did not have anything on Disney

plus. Usually some of the streaming services

and stuff. If, if episodes. I mean, you don't

expect, you know, it's not like, it's not like

HBO, which is known for being family friendly

with it shows like game of Thrones. It's Disney

where you expect that kind of stealth. No, no,

but I don't care. I don't care what. Streaming

service i don't care what platform i don't care

what movie studio television studio whatever.

Every time there are uncomfortable situations

or whatever i have always seen some sort of something

before the program to warn people just in case

hence why there is the movie rating system that's

why there is the tv rating system. Just to give

people a warning. I Understand you weren't disagreeing

and I understand you were trying to be funny

with it I get it but it's one of those things

where like I can't believe they did that I Can't

believe they did it like it's it but it's it's

so mind -blowing because it's it's Star Wars

number one Yeah brought and I said it before

I'll say it again brought to you by Disney Yeah

And it's like, you know, like, okay, Game of

Thrones, yeah. Star Wars and Disney? No! But,

I mean, Dave, man, I mean... So, for the record,

I think they handled it as well as you could

handle it. They probably should have put a warning

on. I do kind of agree with that. But, like,

it's just... It's just mind -blowing, like, that

this is the whole thing that we're talking about.

Thanks to the good people at Disney. the company

with mouse and the the cruise lines and the You

know family family family family family and it's

like wow I Think my biggest thing with with Disney

is now specifically Disney Plus is They don't

like and I'm not and I'm sure and I don't know

cuz I'm not a parent. I don't have children I

don't know how parental controls work on the

on the thing cuz I don't use Okay, well, I'm

just saying like I know you can activate a profile

on Disney Plus that has Like a kid's version

of a profile, but how my profile as an adult

male pops up is It's not like the first thing

is Tucci in Italy the Simpsons Super kiddies,

which is all kiddies stuff. Like this is kid

like okay Tucci in Italy isn't kid stuff, but

spider -man across us Spider verse he like because

Disney now owns the entirety of most end of the

entertainment Stuff that Warner Brothers doesn't

own or whatever. It's like they throw everything

into a page of Disney Plus and they they segregated

out like to Disney Pixar Marvel Star Wars National

Geographic Hulu and ESPN with these little bottom

things on the main page But I don't know. I would

like to I don't know. I just think Disney Plus

needs a better better makeover with their website,

but it is what it is. And I don't know, man,

it's just, it's one of those things where I just

wish that there were better, better things. And

I think that, that, that episode, which episode

was this, this happened in as a third one, third

one. Yeah. Episode three reckoning should have

had a parental warning or some sort of content.

Okay. Okay. I know I'm saying content warning.

Hey, but at the same time. And or I mean, how

many kids were watching and I'm not OK. And or

I'm not OK. I didn't mean necessarily. But I

know, but I'm just saying. I'm just saying maybe

they thought, well, nobody's watching this thing,

so. With how Star Wars at all, isn't that one

of the narratives right now is that Star Wars

is not cool anymore and kids don't watch it because.

It's want to watch their whatever they want to

watch. I don't know. Well, maybe maybe Kit. I

don't know. Michael Bay movies. Give me toilet.

No, no. Although I'm glad that he's moved on

to our generation and is ruining the childhood

of the generation. Yes, thank God. You know what

the sad thing is, is that no one ever get if

somebody ever sends this to me, I will hate that

person for the rest of my life. There's a skibity

toilet funko pop. No thank you. But my point,

I didn't necessarily mean a parental... What?

What's your address? No. Someone's worth wasting

the money. There is a... I didn't necessarily

mean a parental warning. I meant a content warning.

No, I know you did. I know you did. What is how?

The thing is, I know how in the public mental

health is today as it should be. I'm not saying

it shouldn't be with how in the public eye mental

health is today. The fact that this made it into

Star Wars at all is just shocking. Second of

all, first of all, there should be something

there specifically because it is Disney. and

they just don't care but then again you know

you go back to when did lady and the tramp come

out 19 something or other or not not lady and

not lady and the tramp uh go go back 30 35 31

years ago to 31 years ago to lion king when the

when the dust settles when they crash into the

grass and the dust settles up and it spells sex

in the stars oh they did that on purpose i know

they didn't but it's his name But yeah, yeah,

but they did that because it was Disney like

I know they're being dead. I know What I was

gonna say is yeah, I I I I know that you're saying

a content warning. I understand that I actually

know a couple of women who are survivors from

And and I do wonder one of them is kind of they

both kind of like Star Wars they probably watch

and or but like I Wouldn't recommend I've watched

other movies with them where that subject has

come up And to see how they react to that and

and it's just like I Don't know for me. It's

weird because I do think and or handled it as

good as it could have as it could have but it's

just the question of At some point and I understand

the whole point of and or is to be a grown -up

take on Star Wars. Yes But at the same time it

feels like it feels weird You know, I mean the

whole reason we've spent all this time talking

about it is because it's weird It's very weird

that it was at the end of the day Star Wars is

a fair at its heart. Star Wars is a fairy tale.

Yeah, and and Like you said, I think I don't

know that we needed to take it that far I think

the lieutenant was was creepy and icky enough

as it was And I think there was enough of him

Suggesting he was going to abuse his power in

that way without having to necessarily go full

bore This is not Game of Thrones, it's Star Wars.

It's a weird asterisk to an otherwise masterpiece

of the whole 1 and 2. We've got to have this

creepy icky skin. I will not let go of the fact

that it is brought to us by Disney! And it's

horrible and the thing of it is is i know bix

is a kick ass character. She is a kick ass woman

she will fight back no matter what the situation

is. For the most part and cheat cheat cheat cheat.

The wounds become the ones that the the wounds

are already starting to be a parent it will become

a little more apparent in the next arc she does

spoiler alert. She is strong and she will recover.

Yes. But me saying this is leading into me saying

the first time he came around asking about her

husband. I'm like, come on. He was hitting on

her and she said, yeah, I like that. Right. No,

that's what I'm saying. The first time he came

around and she mentioned her husband. And like

my first thought was when she mentioned, oh,

my husband, my first thought was, come on Cassian,

get your ass back there. No, I know Cassian is

off doing what he's doing and he's trying to

get out of his own situation and everything else.

And I know technically they're not husband and

wife and all that, but everything else, but you

know, charade, charade, whatever. But the point

was I was like that second time when the lieutenant

came back and it actually happened. I was like,

I really wanted Cassian to come like. I'm happy

that she kicked his ass and did what she had

to do to save herself. I'm not saying she couldn't,

I'm not saying that Bix needed Cassian to save

her. I think that was one of the things, I don't

want to say redeem, but I think made that sequence

a little more was that Bix took care of herself.

It wasn't that she was rescued by a man. absolutely

no I love the scene for what it is but in the

back of my mind I was like rooting for Cassian

to come back faster yeah yeah not saying to just

save her but just to come on everybody yeah exactly

in the end Brasso gets killed yep right when

Cassian gets back yeah oh the end of that third

episode I was like Oh man, the whole thing doesn't

explode? That's unfortunate. The barn silo, like

I was waiting for the silo thing to explode.

I was waiting for the whole thing to BOOM! Although

what's kind of cool that he fires on it and a

ton of grain falls on the stormtroopers and you

see from his point in the cockpit, like you can

see the little three lines that represent their

life signs and then they just fade out because

they get crushed. Yeah, I I love that ship I

I love I don't think there could be in this show

I don't think they're gonna have a better ship.

Oh, no, I Don't think I don't think there's gonna

be an x -wing equivalent ever As much as I love

the x -wings oh Man The first arc of Endor, season

two. I liked it overall. There's a couple of

slow moments for me with all of the politics

and the wedding stuff and all of that, but the

action is great. The storytelling is really good.

Outside of everything we just talked about with

the one scene in the third episode. Well, and

then there's another critical moment. There's

my favorite moment. One of my favorite moments

of the whole season and definitely from the first

arc. I mentioned the whole subplot about Tay,

Mon Mothma's friend, who's kind of evolving,

degenerating, falling apart. And it's pretty

clear he's kind of like threatening her in a

real subtle way, blackmailing her. And she has

this conversation with Luthen. And he's like,

so how much does he want? And she's like, I don't

know. We're going to talk about that. And he's

like, well, we're going to have to do something.

And she's like, I don't know what you mean. And

he looks at her and he goes, that must be nice

for you. Yeah, and that's that's such a great

money something like that's like it must be you

know That's good for you or it must be nice for

you. And so the the third episode actually ends

with a Like a ship comes to pick up Tay It's

it's the girl. It's Citra Citus Citra. It's the

girl from season one who was was girlfriends

with Mon Mothma's cousin who's also there and

It's it's she's the one that was hunting down

and or for a chunk of that season She's the pilot

because the regular pilots gone missing not gone

missing but just hasn't checked in today. Yep,

so they fly off together as the music's playing

and Basically, it's it's it's like a godfather

type thing. You you never see Tay again Because

he got killed They don't know it's weird. It's

weird because we've been talking about this thing

that they did show and and yet the show Demonstrates

incredible restraint by like telling you everything

you need to know this person is Luther's assassin

She's the pilot for the car for Tay. They take

off, they fly away. Never see him again. Mm -hmm.

And meanwhile, Hothma just gets drunk and just

starts dancing at the wedding. Her world is falling

apart. Her childhood friend has to be murdered.

Her daughter has been sold, literally sold to

a gangster. I know. It's just like, this is the

price she's paying. This is why... I really hate

the sequel trilogy and a couple episodes of Mandalorian

season 3 because here we are watching this woman

who is Presented more or less as a very moral

person as a good person as a person who's trying

to do the right thing in a dark time and she

is Sacrificing I mean, you know, it's like Lutheran

speech last season about how he sacrificed everything

We're watching this person doing like Lutheran

already did that. He already burned his decency

and she's in the process of destroying everything

that she has and is to make a sunrise that she

may never see. She does, spoiler alert, but like,

and she is in so much pain. And it all gets vaporized

in Force Awakens. It was nothing. And then in

Mandalorian season three, we see that they're

incompetent dweebs. It's just, just cause Disney,

it's just, This person that we like and we root

for and she's doing everything. She's being a

she's being a true hero. She's sacrificing everything.

And I know down the road, like the tech asked,

it's not worth it. They get maybe 30 years of

incompetent governance. And then they're vaporized.

Yeah. And it's heartbreaking. Yeah. Other than

so again, if you rewind all the way back to.

I'm gonna say 1989 because I think that was when

I was when I was nine years old is probably when

I first saw Jedi When I remember first seeing

you know, many boffins died to bring us this

information. Oh, don't be that guy No, no That's

all I knew of her until we started watching this

stuff Anybody knew of it, right? Right, right

exactly But like I liked her then and I've liked

her ever since then and I like Like I liked seeing

where characters come from I've always have and

I like watching her And it just breaks my heart

to see where she's going. Although my last note

That ending, she's just dancing the night away,

too bad she's not dancing on the ceiling. No,

well, she's, she's... It's an act of pain. Yeah,

I know. She's, yeah. Okay, the Bothan thing is

people are like, where are the Bothans? It's

like, the Bothans were the second Death Star.

Please, just... Yep. Please. Yep. Stop embarrassing

us. Yeah, no, I know. Know you know, I'm sorry.

It's just like I've seen I'm not There's a whole

meme about all the stupid questions. Yeah. No,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no He's not gonna

even know some random lieutenant on some random

Planet like no one's telling him this stuff.

I mean Just just stop He's not even part of the

regular army. You understand that right? He's

the Emperor's right hand guy. He's not part of

the chain of command. That's what I found interesting

about this side of the Empire was that whole

secret council thing. I thought that was so cool.

I was like, it was weird that whole like 1950s.

Yeah. I was like, wait a minute. There were a

lot of real world things in the, in these first

three episodes that I was like, really? Star

War? Like, well, like you said, Star Wars is

meant to be a fantasy, a fantasy world. And there

are a lot of real world things that we as humans

do or have had in humanity that I wouldn't think

would be in the Star Wars universe. infomercial

tainment thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't

think that would be in the Star Wars universe.

Hell, I didn't think this type of music and dancing

at the end of the third episode would be like

that music is from the first season when he goes

to the. Oh, yeah, that's right. It is the same

song. I was differently. Yeah. I wanna talk about

Stellan Skarsgård for a minute, Lufen, because

man, this guy... I have always loved Stellan

Skarsgård, and I was trying to think back of

when I first saw him in anything. And honestly,

it... I barely remember him. He was in an uncredited

role in Air Force One in 1997. Oh, and then he

was and then like, I don't even remember. I remember

what I remember about Air Force One is Harrison

Ford and Gary Oldman and doing all that. Get

off my plane. Get off my plane, blah, blah, blah,

blah. He was then Professor Gerald Lambeau in

Goodwill Hunting, which I remember the most.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, he's one

of those guys that's been like everything. Oh

no, I know, I'm getting to that. I'm saying that

as realizing that, not, oh you should know that.

I'm like, oh my god, I don't remember him at

all. Oh yeah, because he was, it was him versus

Robin Williams as Sean McGuire. Yep, Sean McGuire

was the character's name. He was tapping in Amistad

in 1997, which I saw Amistad in theaters. Any

two? Yep. He's been in a bunch of other movies.

I'm not going to list them all, but I will say

Lufen kind of, sort of, almost reminds me of

the... When did that movie come out? Where is

it? Really? Oh, right. Kind of reminds me of

Selvig from Avengers. I was going to say the

first time I really remember him wasn't Thor.

Okay, yeah, that's what that's what that introduces

Thor. Yeah. Yeah, this is where the character

characters are introduces in Thor Yeah, it took

me a while to to get around to Thor. I That's

a whole other discussion for a whole other podcast

out of all the Marvel movies the Thor 1 & 2 I

could do without More for two definitely. Yeah.

Yeah more that more dark world than the original

for one is fine, but the dark world is But I

know I love I just love the way stellen acts

and just It's even interesting. I saw I read

an interview about It was talking about the monologue

from the first season that the everything monologue.

He was like I was afraid I was afraid I was gonna

screw it up Apparently he had had a stroke recently.

Oh, wow. Before filming that. Uh -huh. He was

like, I was terrified I wasn't gonna deliver

it right. And it's like, son, you nailed it.

Awesome. Yeah, that was so cool. Anything else

about these first, this first arc, these first

three episodes of Andor Season 2, sir? Well,

of course, the other thing, the... You know to

be a pathetic fanboy about it The thing that

really offended me about the third episode and

upset me and I mentioned at the beginning Is

that is that Andrew shows up? He kills all the

stormtroopers. He blows up the little transport.

He rescues Bix and Wilman and then leaves BMO

behind Yeah, I was I literally I literally I

think shrieked the first time I saw it not this

time but But we do find out be be most fine I

will find spoiler alert. We do get a we do get

back to be Mo and we find out he's fine He gets

a good ending he gets the best ending for the

best boy. He's a good boy Well, that's good Yeah,

I So that's what we should talk about. We talked

about the scene with the Imperials at the something

divide or something that the the scene it interests

is the Gorman subplot the the ISP guys in the

Ministry of Enlightenment and the whole thing

is Just becomes very this is like the crux of

the season. Yeah, is There's a planet called

Gorman, which is not a core world, but it's it's

it's the next best thing. It's very important

it's very connected and it has something called

calcite which is a mineral that the empire needs

so like they say for the energy program and what

and because we know who orson krennic is like

you should you should you should figure out right

away that when he says energy program what he's

really saying is the death star yes you need

it to power the death star uh but if they but

in mining it it will literally destroy the planet

And so their whole thing is we got to come up

with a way because we can't just send because

we don't have the Death Star yet. This is this

is the whole thing. Yeah, they don't have the

Death Star yet. So they have to still kind of

you know, the the Senate can still possibly be

a problem. So we've got to figure out a way to

get this stuff to get the you know, get control

of this planet without just sending the troops

in. And the whole point of this conference is

I need you guys to come up with a way to do that.

And then one guy's like, what about a playing?

It's like, well, we war game that it doesn't

work. It goes out of control really quick. And

the person who comes up with the plan is Deirdre.

And she's like, what you need is opposition.

And he's like, well, what do you mean? You need

an opposition that does the wrong thing. Yeah,

that was very interesting. And the whole thing

is, yeah, this will be the core of the next six

episodes is the Gorman thing. I have so much

to say about the Gormans and the whole thing

is their planet like their their big industry

is Fabric and fashion because they have these

writers that like wet that weave silk and they're

also very very French It is very French resistance

like in fact There there there is an actual they

think they had the guys come up with a language

for the Gormans language Yeah, the actors they

cast were French that they would say this this

this star wars language with french inflections

and a french and it will be very kind of like

underground france during world war two you'll

get that vibe super and it was it was intentional

oh so we're going to have some pujos in star

wars possibly they love their spiders and they

love their cheese and another cool thing Is as

the owner of the West End games Star Wars role

-playing game Rebel Alliance sourcebook published

1990 There is a bit at the very beginning I will

tell you this because because everyone went into

the season kind of notice Is it the beginning

beginning talking about an incident and it's

supposedly now this has been changed It was changed

in rebels actually Okay, but in the source book

they talk about the Gorman massacre right Anmoth

Tarkin or governor Tarkin literally like wanted

to land and they wouldn't land they wouldn't

let him land so he landed his ship on people

and that was the thing that like According to

the source book was what caused Mon Moth Mutt

to leave the Senate And that was 15 years before

the Battle of Yav and so like obviously that

doesn't track with Yeah, I'm just saying keep

that in mind as you watch the next couple episodes

as in in rebels There is the episode where she

she actually does leave and it's because of the

Gorman massacre Yeah, you've already seen that

part so I can't spoil you. Yeah, you can't spoil.

You've already established you forget stuff,

but like yeah But but that's the thing though.

It's like most of this stuff is already known

like and I didn't know any of this stuff Okay,

but I went back and looked it up. I was like,

is that really from the source book? I looked

up like oh Okay, but I'm saying like most of

the stuff that's in the shows that's in the movies

that's in the stuff that's already been released

People that have seen it like Like like like

get back to me After episode four four five six

seven get back to me after episode eight Okay

Like I because I knew I knew what was coming,

but I didn't know what was coming It's like kind

of like Titanic the movie where you're like,

yeah the ship sinks and everybody dies You don't

you don't realize Like who which characters live

which characters die like what what like what

happens one of the things like and also like

they they it's interesting because this show

reconciles the rebels episode and the the the

the source book reference it actually which I

was like damn But uh, it's it's Episode eight

is probably the highlight of the entire season

and it is amazing cool Something to look forward

to, folks. There you go. Alright, so normal questions.

How does this show compare to other shows within

the same franchise? I mean, it holds them down

and makes them eat dirt. It is so much better

than anything else that particularly modern Disney

Lucasfilm has created. And I will put the first

two seasons of Mandalorian there, too. I mean,

I think they're close second. But because they

because because they feel more Star Wars. That's

my analogy for Andor is you go to a really good

burger restaurant. You know, like if you're a

Midwestern steak and shake, I don't know. So

guys, I guess in and out burger. Yeah. But like

for some reason they have like. For some reason,

they have like cashew chicken. or sweet and sour

chicken and you're like, why is this at a burger

place? And you eat it and it's the best sweet

and sour chicken you've ever had in your entire

life. But you can't really say it's the best

thing on the menu because it's a burger joint.

It's amazing. It's the most amazing thing you've

ever had. I mean, you really kind of got to give

it to the double cheeseburger because Empire

Strikes Back. It's a burger joint. Yep, so so

Andor is amazing, but it is almost I said this

from a while I've been excited for Andor not

because it's Star Wars because it's Andor because

it's his own thing. Yeah, it's his own thing

Yeah, so yeah, it is way. I mean Mandalorian

season one two really good stuff very Star Wars

II so you got that but Andor is just a level

of quality because it just like Writing is so

good. The acting is so good And apparently the

thing cost all the money three hundred million

dollars. It's all on screen it looks amazing

it looks gorgeous looks fantastic. I love this

it has it has practical sets of the volume crap

right and they they went around europe and found

all these weird locations that look great on

film just looks great it's. It is it is it's

own thing is on standard is so much better than

everything else. That was particularly modern

Lucasfilm has done. And anything like, I mean,

it is my favorite TV show. Like better, it's

better than anything I've seen in years. Very

cool. Very cool. All right. So this arc, specifically

these three episodes, zero to five with half

points. What would you give these three episodes?

Uh, uh, uh, my thing is I've, I think our ratings

might be a little different because I've seen

the whole series. Right. I tie them into what

comes next. So I'm going to give it a 4 .5. I

do think it gets better, but I also like I can

see that the threads of the themes as they got

carried over As opposed to just being introduced

to it cold. So I I'm gonna give it a 4 .5 Yep

I'm gonna give it a 3 .5 because I think we're

just getting I need room to Go up Because I think

we're just on the on the tipping point of where

the show is gonna go for the next three arcs.

So yeah, folks, you can watch this on Disney

Plus. I'm sure at some point season two will

be on DVD, I think. Season one is on DVD. It

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