STUDIO 2009

Deadpool and Deadpool 2 Review

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TFG1Mike and Kai dive into the first two Deadpool films. They praise the 2016 original for its sharp writing, practical effects, engaging pacing, and Ryan Reynolds' perfect comedic performance—giving it a perfect 5 out of 5. Deadpool 2, however, disappoints with poor pacing, weak character investment, forgettable moments, and a hollow feel that loses the spark of the first film, earning a 3 out of 5. The episode covers cast, director Tim Miller's work, character lore, and why the sequel's bigger budget and effects failed to deliver.

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Mike and Jeremy. Once again, almost as always,

is the Dragon Lord Kai from Kai Dragon Media

and Kai Dragon Gardening and Cooking. It should

be Cooking and Gardening. Damn it, alphabetical.

Yeah, I know but you know unique and that was

around the time YouTube started saying you better

grab what you can now For names or you're gonna

lose it. So I just rushed and said, you know

what? It's gonna be that and End up saying that

but no I get what you're saying on that. But

yeah Blame it on YouTube. That's right blame

it on YouTube. That's it always say it because

I always want to say cooking first Yeah, it's,

it's, it's one of those things that's like, yeah,

you want to say it, but. So Kai is back and we

are going to be doing a Deadpool double feature.

Uh, Steve Megatron went off into some other Marvel

cinematic, you know, like he got called up to

the big leagues or something. I don't know where

Steve is, but, uh, yeah, we're going to be looking

for Francis. Francis is dead in the pool yeah

he's reliving he's reliving the the deadpool

era So we are here Deadpool double feature double

feature Deadpool Deadpool one and two Just the

facts for the first film. Did you see this in

theaters? I saw both in theaters. Okay. I saw

none of them in theaters and Before this recording

I hadn't seen either one of them This is uniquely

special for him guys, yes exactly Exactly, so

yeah Deadpool 2016 superhero film directed by

Tim Miller Mr. Miller has done other works such

as Well, this was his directorial debut for films

for long films He did a couple of direct a couple

of short films in 2002 2003 He went on to direct

Terminator Dark Fate in 2019 That's a very dark

fate. Uh -huh. And then he was executive producer

on Sonic 1 and 2, as well as Sonic 3. And he...

Wow. He was the uncredited director and executive

producer for reshoots for the Borderlands movie.

I hope your career takes off after Sonic 3, sir.

I really do, cause yikes. Yeah. Yep. Big yikes.

Big yikes, big yikes. Oh yeah, Deadpool. It is

all about Deadpool, Wade Wilson, and this is

probably the most fun individual superhero movie

I've seen in a long time. I'd go with that. And

I'm not saying that - Logan wasn't fun but Logan

is a lot darker than like literally Deadpool

because of the character and because of how Reynolds

plays him. It's basically Ferris Bueller in a

super suit essentially. Yeah, you know I can

go, that's really actually a really good description

of it. Considering what happened at the end of

this movie, yeah exactly. But this first film

is all about him trying to save his girlfriend

Vanessa and we have a bunch of other things going

on. In the movie and I like him on his own Spoiler

for the double feature part of this later Don't

put don't try to put Deadpool with the X -Men.

Please don't Jesus God, so like I said, he saw

both of these in theaters. I This is my first

time watching both of these. I liked the first

movie a lot Uh, the plot moves very well. The

pacing of the film is great. The way he incorporates

the audience with like, you really feel like

you're in the film with those characters. I think

that is really cool. The music for this first

film is just, it just fits so well. Yeah, the

introduction was really what got me. I mean,

I loved it at the beginning where he's just sitting

there right in drawn pictures in his book and

then jumps off into the cars with maximum effort.

It was funny to me because that was the first

time I saw his silly introductions, which carried

on in every, almost every single Deadpool movie

that he has done, which was fantastic. Yep. And

for me, that was the big selling point, I think.

for that. I mean, it had good music. It had everything

you could think of to start with it. And really,

I had no complaints about it either. I mean,

when I saw it, I was like, oh, my God, this is

really damn cool. And, you know, as I started

watching more and more of it, I'm just like,

OK, I like this. And I think the way this Start

of it flows like how did you get here? Why did

we get here? Mm -hmm really Was done very well.

Yeah, I mean when and the comedy effort like

yeah he's wearing the brown pants at the start

there during the shootout scene that's going

on there and then he Goes back to how it all

started. I really liked that I think All that

segment really flowed very, very good with it.

I mean, then it takes you back to his past and

everything involved in why he even how he even

got there in the first place. So I liked the

transition phases back and forth. I mean, to

me, that was good storytelling. Yeah. When you

can sit there and you can flow. Your story like

that. That's great telling Yeah, normally I find

story time jumps like that jarring, but I didn't

in this because it just really feel it it was

just one of those things that oh my god, it worked

because it was You know, we've talked about this

on this studio. We've talked about it on the

dragon's lair good writing you can accomplish

many things. Absolutely. You have to have good

writing. And in my opinion, that's what it did

to be able to make those time skips palatable.

If you just took if you just bounce around, like

you said, anywhere else. Yeah, it's going to

get boring. It's going to be like, why am I here

again? But in this case, it Just didn't have

that feeling. Yeah. And that's what I liked about

it. Uh, and the writing for this, like normally

I don't pay too much attention to the writers

names unless I absolutely noticed them. And lately

because of how I consume my media where I'm mainly

just watching stuff for podcasting. I'm not really

just watching stuff to watch stuff, but Paul

Wernick and Rhett Reese are the writers on this

and they've done other Reynolds stuff like six

underground They've done Deadpool and Wolverine

They did GI Joe retaliation That kind of yeah,

Joe retaliation was Just a second one. It was

the second movie It was people say it was better

than the first one. So I don't know this what

it is. Really? Yeah, all of them sucked Well,

there are only two, thank God. Yeah. Supposed

to be a third one coming at some point, but who

knows. And I'm not trying to be negative on that.

I just like, Oh my God. Yeah. I remember those.

And I just like, really just don't even look

good. Um, but this is Deadpool from 2016 is the

way. You should do movies. It doesn't matter

what kind of movie you're doing, whether it's

this type or any type, but this had a budget

of $58 million and it's box office was $782 .6

million. Like that reminds me of movies from

like the six, the eighties and nineties doing

stuff for like 30 million and then making three

times the 30 million kind of thing. You don't

have to spend. You don't have to spend a hundred

eighty million dollars on eight episodes of crap

and lose your money You really don't And that's

the nice thing about that is What we discovered

is You can make things happen You can make miracles

happen Absolutely. Uh, getting into the cast

for this, obviously Ryan Reynolds. He's done

a bunch of stuff over the years. Uh, Marina Baccarin

as Vanessa. Only other thing I had seen her in

to this point and even past this point was she

was, um, Oh, what's her name? She was in Gotham.

She was in, um, damn it. She was Leslie Tompkins

in Gotham. 2015 to 2019 She was yeah, I haven't

seen her in much in anything. So she was Definitely

new and I think she played the role for the that

pulls match very well Yeah Yeah, absolutely Actually,

she's not that new because she's been in a lot

of stuff her acting debut was perfume in 2001

for film for TV she was And our Sarah in firefly.

That's, that was her debut. She was really far

fire. And how the hell did I not recognize her?

Oh, we used to watch in firefly. Yep. She was

the voice of black canary and justice league

unlimited. She was on an episode of the OC. So

she's been around. Oh yeah. She, yeah. She has

more TV credits than movie credits kind of thing.

Cause I remember. Cause it was, I, she's the

voice of Gideon in the flash. Was like oh hello

and then like I said Gotham as dr. Leslie Tompkins

Recurring a role season one main role season

two to five But I like her I like what she did

with this character. I thought that was really

really good. I've never heard of Ed screen Who

plays Francis So yeah his career started in 2012

with piggy Whatever that was there's nothing

on his A transporter refueled where he played

Frank Martin jr. Okay, so that was the Fourth

transform transporter movie. I don't know if

Jason Statham isn't in that franchise anymore.

I don't care Yeah, I lost track of that one too.

Mm -hmm and Oh God he's gonna be in rebel moon

as Admiral Atticus Noble oh lord well yeah i've

never heard of the guy uh obviously tj miller

as weasel and i knew i recognized him the whole

time i was watching this and i'm like wait a

minute what film do i recognize him from She's

out of my league. Get him to the Greek. How you

train your dragon. He was the voice of Truffnut

Thorsten in How to Train Your Dragon. He was

in Rock of Ages in 2012. He was in Ready Player

One as iRock. So he's done plenty of stuff. He

was in something else. What else was he in? There

was something else. Oh, that's right. He was

Gene in the Emoji movie. good lord oh yeah that

was a weird movement too and he was in transformers

age of extinction as lucas flannery i remember

that guy now yeah but knowing this as um as as

weasel uh really love his character i think i

think he does a really good job uh i think what's

cool about the weasel character is it's kind

of like Deadpool's best buddy kind of thing even

though You know, he doesn't really do like he

does stuff, but he's not out there in the action

kind of thing right and then Gina Carano is angel

dust. So Gina Carano is angel dust was good.

I really like her character Yep Yeah, I like

her as an actress from I think Angel Dust and,

uh, oh, what was the, uh, Cara Dune from Mando.

Yeah, she's a very talented actress. Yeah, absolutely.

I've never heard of Brianna Hildenbrand who plays

Negasonic Teenage Warhead and I need to look

at that character because, holy crap, who came

up with the name of that? Ugh. and tell ya mmm

first appearance new x -men number 115 August

of 2001 created by Grant Morrison and Frank quietly

of course it's a grant Morrison character that

makes sense now God At least you know more about

it than I do is you say that and it means So

stephan k pick i'm sorry if i'm mispronouncing

the last name provides the voice of closest i

love seeing closest in this it was so good losses

was one of my was a great comic relief. From

the park to him getting punched in the balls

at one point to the point that he was obsessed

with getting dead pool to join the x -men. I

just I love that part. I mean, you know, if we

can look back, if we go back to the movie segment,

the whole dynamic, like where Deadpool is trying

to go after Francis, he's stopped by Colossus

and then gets handcuffed, says, let's go see

the professor. And the next thing you know, Deadpool's

cutting off his. And that part still cracks me

up and then he leaves giving Colossus the middle

finger with it. Just cracked me up because it

has such a, not that I'm big into that type of

stuff, but it fit that well with the dynamic

of Deadpool. Yeah, and the and the dynamic of

Deadpool, I don't know much about the character

other than what I've seen. He's a comically murk

with the mouth fourth wall breaker that has the

ability to regenerate. So he's a lot like Wolverine,

except I don't know how deep Wolverine's powers

goes. But the fact his whole exoskeleton is adamantium.

I don't think you're like going to be able to

make him just instantly vanish now. Now, with

Deadpool, you can bring him down to like the

smallest atom. And he can regenerate from that.

Yeah, he can regenerate. Yeah, which Wolverine's

adamantium skeleton just makes him invulnerable

and. Yeah, I don't think You cut his hand off

his hand is gonna be gone. I don't think he's

gonna regenerate his hand like Deadpool does

Correct. I don't believe that either. I think

that's a misconception on that But the story

of you know telling about how he got there his

quest for revenge against Francis Return them

in the dead pool basically for trying to enslave

them and everything else heinous studies done.

The thing was dead pool is never meant to be

a hero he's an anti hero. A lot of people get

that mixed up that he is not your good guy he

is a guy with one hell of a mouth. That makes

bad guys angry. And one of his closest people

to him has always been Wolverine. Like, they've

made video games with him and Wolverine. And

those two basically blend together. You can't

really have Deadpool without having Wolverine

of some kind. So when Wolverine, you know, comes

into the play, There's even more shenanigans

and stuff. They even made a Deadpool video game.

Yep. So that's what that's kind of where. Given

just a little bit of lore, that's kind of where

it all stems from. Now. The other factor with

that movie was the sword fighting, the action,

everything was just really, really good. I mean,

from from the very beginning, I mean, you can't

my opinion. Just think, I don't want to say this.

You really can't dismiss the Deadpool fight scenes

with this one, because the Katanas play him going

after Francis, the whole. Deadpool thing that

starts him trying to get the outfit made. All

that in the constant. Where's Francis? The. The

subway guy, which cracks me up. He'll take the

footlong fully loaded. I like the whole thing.

And and I feel like the movie ended well. Wham

bam start finish and then he made a joke at the

end of it like a ferris wheeler like it shows

over get out of here and it If it was the only

movie he had done with it That would have been

perfect there was I don't see many flaws with

this kind of video and no it was It was a traditional,

in my opinion, I could do without a sequel. I

could do without anything. Let's go wham bam.

Thank you, ma 'am. It's done. It's everything's

said, set in stone. There's nothing more to really

think about it or worry about. It was, in my

opinion, that's the movies that we Tend to miss

because yes is is having all the extra stuff.

Great. Sure. But when you look at the legacy

of this particular movie, it does a powerful

start to finish, and that start to finish just

goes a long way. Yeah, it does. And I. I personally.

can't really think of any other way they could

have done it. And in my opinion, like we've talked

about on both shows, the way movies should be,

where there's beginning and end. And the funny

thing is, is that he does the whole, like you

said, he does the whole Ferris Bueller thing

at the end and he's like, Oh yeah, by the way,

cable's going to be in the next one. Yeah. Okay.

Cool. That's, that's sounds like it's going to

be awesome. And this first film, I absolutely

enjoyed it very much from beginning to end. Like

you said, I think for me with my, the notes that

I did take on, on, on the first film is, um,

the opening title and the end credits, like,

Oh my God. Like the writers, the true heroes

of the movie and all these other crazy credits

and silly credits. I didn't think to bring that

up. Yeah, I love that. And you even have. I don't

know if anyone else besides me caught this. You

have a DC animated universe reference in this

movie. When he gets in the car. I think it's

from the first time he, from the first time he

gets in Defender's cab, he says, ah, rich Corinthian

leather. That's the first thing the Joker says

when he gets into Lex's limo in world's finest.

It's Batman and Superman. I did not know this.

That's a nice little throwback. Yeah, they even

got a DC reference into a Marvel movie with this

one, that is hilarious. I like the romance aspect

of it between him and Vanessa. I think that's

a fun little thing to this. The action and the

comedy are great. The fact that he breaks his

every bone in his body trying to fight Colossus,

that's just crazy. And again, he I forget I forget

who he's talking to when he says this but he

calls somebody Is it the dog? Maybe I don't remember.

He calls somebody basil Oh, no, it's the little

care. It's the little little guy that they are.

It's a faulty towers reference I don't know how

many movies or TV shows in 2016 were making faulty

towers references They talk about professor Xavier

where he says, McAvoy or Stewart, these timelines

are so confusing. Let's face it, Stewart is the

only Professor X. Yeah. You know, you're bringing

up stuff, but you've also rewatched it sooner

than me. I just remember it all because. Yeah.

Well, not all of it, but you're definitely finding

things that I really that I forgot about. But

at the same time was very, very true. Yeah And

I don't think they could have done anything differently

in that movie if I were you know Thinking back

to it I don't really feel like that movie had

anything that just made me go this And that's

so rare and movies very rare in movies nowadays,

and I think I liked That a lot I liked that vibe

a lot Yeah again, it's just one of those things

where it really was a very good first superhero

movie out like I would put this on par with Batman

89 and Superman 70, you know the original Superman

movie, but putting that on par with those means

that Each of those films were made at such different

times in Hollywood that they are all so unique

like you look at Superman All of that is practical

Yeah, that's a good point all of it Deadpool

isn't I'm not saying Deadpool isn't what I'm

saying is the time that Superman was made Looking

at Krypton the ice crystals and everything else

All of that was practical. None of that was digital.

You get to 89 with Batman. Most of 90 percent

of that was practical. You know, most even the

driving with the Batmobile, all of that. Right.

And you look at this, this is pretty much all

practical. I don't think there's many, if any,

CGI scenes in this. So you have three different

practical superhero films from technically three

different decades. You've got the 70s, the 80s

and then the 2010s. That's amazing. Yeah, it

is. But the most, you know, when I think of special

effects in that one, it wasn't over the top with

special effects either at all. Yeah. If you focus

on one thing, you have to think about that because

I was like, did it have one special effects or

anything? I don't like, you know, nothing about

it. It didn't have near as much. Yeah, no, not

there as much. Would we recommend this film to

people? Absolutely. If you know nothing about

Deadpool, this is a way to learn about Deadpool.

If you just want a fun superhero romp film, absolutely.

So for our GCR and Geek Meter rating scale, I

am probably gonna give... I'm gonna give it a

four out of five. Really good, high quality,

fun. There are some issues which really there

aren't. Kind of thing. So that's that's what

I'm gonna give it. What are you gonna give the

first movie? First movie because I was impressed.

I still have a lot of rewatch ability with it.

It was Great comedy the adaptation to the character

was spot -on I think Ryan Reynolds did a great

job with it all. I mean, I really don't have

much complaints about the movie soundtrack, I'm

going to give it a five. That's I mean, and I

don't give fives very often, or 10 out of 10s

or whatever. You know, depending on which score

base we do. And just don't see anything that

says given anything lower, you know, And that's

just my thought now. That can be changed differently.

Well, we may go to the next segment. Yeah, well,

yeah, we'll get to that. So we're going to take

a quick ad break, do some podcast ads and some

other stuff, and we'll come back with Deadpool

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at the Deadpool double feature. Deadpool 2 came

out in, uh, uh, when the hell was this released?

2018? Yeah, May 18th of 2018, running time 119

minutes. Uh, what's surprising to me about this

is they doubled the budget, but they made around

the same amount of money. So the first films

budget was 58 million this films budget was 110

million and it made seven hundred and eighty

five point eight million dollars So they gave

it 50 million more for the budget But it only

made back the same nearly identical to the first

films box office. I'm gonna say this the trailer

He did a couple funny trailers where he's mimicking

Superman or and trying to change into his outfit

and stuff Some of that stuff was funny, but overall,

I feel like this one really didn't have the same

impact. Even the intro wasn't, I mean, it had

the same similar thing and the tragedy of, well,

if you haven't seen it by now, I mean, There

is a spoiler here, but Vanessa dying which triggers

a lot of this crap at the start really that was

the first big one that just absolutely shocked

me and But it really got in my pain Deadpool

Worked up enough that he had no fucks to give

pardon my French Mean just It just basically

that mentality. He he was a man with nothing

to lose at that point and In my opinion It started

built a foundation to bring in cable which cable

for those that don't know is an x -men time traveler

that came from the future typically that I remember

the comics is like some holes days pass or some

crap where he came back He came back to try to

change the world because his world is misery

There's no means left every everything's pretty

much been wiped out by the sentinels and They

have and he has high tech to go back in time,

right? so so the thing with with cable folks

is and most people will know this but between

this and the original x -men the animated series

his story is very very similar because in that

one uh gyric henry gyric and uh trask gyric and

trask create master mold master mold creates

this other thing that ends up in the future that

ends up destroying the future which destroys

cable's family and everything else Similar to

this one where the whole plot of this movie is

cable is coming back in time to kill pyro dude

russell kid, uh, because Russell if he becomes

a serial killer will go on to Destroy the entire

world and will kill cable's family. So it's a

very similar storyline to the old cartoon series

to now So it's that kind of thing and it's fine

But I gotta say I've always I like I said, I

watched deadpool The first movie and enjoyed

the whole thing sat here watched the whole thing

through 19 I can tell you right now 19 minutes

and 56 seconds into the second film. I was bored

to tears Yeah, other than the best apart the

pacing was bad, yep, it took forever for You

know them to really start trying to get me to

want to feel invested in this kid that turn will

eventually become this psychopath. Yep. And,

you know, I like what I like about that is though

what I do like about that is that Deadpool does

try to get the kid to go good. I feel like And

maybe it's just his name is Russell. Maybe it's

just because the kid's name is Russell. But I

feel like Deadpool is trying to be Carl from

up and he's trying to help this kid. But he does.

I mean, I mean, he does try that. I mean, that's

the thing he does try. Whereas this mutant from

the future is really trying to make sure the

kid stays on the path of evil. And so you have

this. Good it's like evil Devil sitting on this

kid's shoulder and he's just ready like a powder

keg to go completely bat shit crazy and The only

thing stopping is, you know cables obsessed with

often this kid. I mean while Deadpool's thing

and this is insane I'm not going to do that which

would fit with Deadpool because despite What

people think about Deadpool, he's not that kind

of person. Yep. He, and he thinks that this is

absolutely wrong, but he's going to try to do

everything can to change that. Including, and

there's very few memorable moments in this movie,

which is the part that is disappointing to me,

but I remember the part where basically Deadpool

makes himself the bad guy. Because he basically.

Offs. Russell's stepdad or something that basically

is the headmaster or the headmaster. Yeah. Yeah,

I'm trying to remember. It's been a while on

that part since I've seen that one. The funny

thing is, folks, it's been a while since Kai

has seen this movie. I just watched it today

and normally when I'm watching movies to record

podcasts and stuff, I'm sitting here at my computer

watching on Disney plus or whatever, but I'm

sitting here at my computer and I'm taking notes

and I'm, yeah, he's able to beat me on this one

a little bit more because I do remember the movie,

but I don't like, yeah. And it was just this

evil psychopath headmaster. Yeah. Which is funny

because then Colossus is wanting to go after

Deadpool, and everything's going to hell, and

Colossus is like, I've had enough of him, and

then it's funny how that all goes down, and it

still doesn't change anything, because the main

bad guy is still trying to influence the kid.

So I was like, okay, nothing really changed at

this point. Nothing really did the kid is is

a lost cause at this point. He's going to go

for I'm going to destroy the world ha ha ha ha

ha kind of thing at that point and I made it

19 minutes and 56 seconds into it was one of

the worst memorable movies I mean I I love Deadpool

1 But Deadpool 2, even with my folks, because

my folks used to like Deadpool. Mom still does.

My dad doesn't for other reasons we won't talk

about. That's right. We watched it. Deadpool

2. Once together. Yeah. Won't watch it again.

But Deadpool 1, we they will watch that over

and over and over because it's such a good movie.

It was a good movie. Deadpool. Too I watched

a couple times with some others that had never

seen it. I got a lot of the same reaction from

them that Really? This is this isn't like Deadpool

to the one and I saw it was I mean so you get

to the end and It me what it takes is Deadpool

dying for the kid to snap out of it and then

turn around and wipe out the bad guy himself

and then They bring Deadpool back And then they

get a multiple timeline thing of him. Oh, yeah

Timelines and I mean literally the only memorable

thing that I have beyond that for Deadpool 2

Was he goes back in time saves Vanessa? Which

creates the multi peril universe and are both

the multiverse thing? because now he split the

timeline where she shouldn't have died and should

have. And then he goes back and comically enough,

offs himself for choosing to do the Green Lantern

movie. Yeah. Which is which is funny to me, because

it's like I mean that moment because Green Lantern

probably was one of his worst movies. He really

did try that on that. But he always got so much

hell for that particular movie. So to me, it

was pretty darn funny that that's what ended

up happening. Yeah. So like I said before, I

made it sitting here just under 20 minutes into

the movie. And I took as many notes as I could

at that time. And I'm just like, nope, I'm not

doing this. I'm just going to go lay down and

watch this on my phone. And I watched it on my

phone and I fell asleep twice. It just doesn't

engage you. No, it doesn't engage you at all.

It doesn't make you really want to feel like

you're part of anything. And that's the problem

with it. That's the problem that I have the most

with it is it doesn't make you feel like you

are invested in anything. You're here for the

wild ride of Deadpool. But this wild ride is

Absolutely boring. Yeah, what right is there?

I mean it's just non -existent and to me That's

what at the end of the day ruined it for me much

like you Mike I just could not get behind it

when it come to how the story was being told,

what people were doing. It just there was. It

felt like an empty void. Yep. Now, the one thing

that is good that came out of this movie. is

that at the end of September 2018, Fox announced

that it would release an untitled Deadpool film

in theaters on December 21st of that year in

place of Alita Battle Angel, which was moved

to February 2019. Right. And what they did was

they did Once Upon a Deadpool, and they made

a Princess Bride PG -13 version of Deadpool 2.

I remember that and that was funny. And the funniest

thing about that whole marketing with that one

is it's like the Beatles were produced by Nickelback.

I've never seen, like I said before at the beginning

of the podcast, I had never seen either Deadpool

film, but I had seen all of that marketing for

Once Upon a Deadpool, and I was like, okay. I've

had that clip forever, and it's probably gonna

go right here, because I love that freaking clip.

Once Upon a Deadpool. I kind of prefer Marvel

movies. We are Marvel. Yeah, but you know, you're

Marvel licensed by Fox. It's like if The Beatles

were produced by Nickelback. It's music! It sucks.

Hey, that's it. I'm done. I've had it with all

this nickelback hating, right? You think that

makes you cool with the cool kids in school,

Fred? No, it just makes me right. It doesn't.

They're overproduced formulaic ear garbage. Oh,

really? You know who might disagree with that?

Facts. 50 million albums worldwide, 11th best

-selling musical act of all time, Billboard's

most successful rock group of the last decade,

six Grammy nominations, 12 Juno Awards, those

count, six Billboard Music Awards, two American

Music Awards, one People's Choice Award, Canadian,

and a partridge in a pear tree. Sorry. I thought

we were just having fun. I didn't realize it

was a... You know, you were... You gotta say,

you were nicer as a kid. Tired of living like

a blind man. Sick aside of a sense of feeling.

This is how you remind me. This is how you remind

me of what I really am. This is how you remind

me of what I - That's the thing there's an old

myth and I've been doing this for 15 years and

I'm sure you remember the myth sequel suck This

case this one sucked. I mean I just It felt It

felt so empty and hollow Yeah, the problem with

making a movie that has a beginning, middle,

and end. And it has, even though you have the

Ferris Bueller funny thing at the end, but literally,

from the moment the credits open to start Deadpool

1, to the time the credits start rolling up before

you get into the beginning to the end, one movie.

When movies do that and they have an ending to

them, There is resolution that you feel fulfilled

from spending your two hours and however much

money you paid for popcorn if you saw it in theater

or whatever kind of thing. You feel excited because

you saw a complete story. And then you try your

best to come back and do a sequel. Like, they

could have done anything else. They could still

have done the thing with cable. That he has to

come back to save his his future fine fine You

could have done it with any and I know this is

a Fox thing and it's a it was 2018 2017 2018

so it was Fox versus Marvel blah blah blah and

Reynolds even Derek Deadpool even calls out about

the about the studio wouldn't let us use or This

is all we could get or whatever and he makes

those Jokes about budget and limitations. Yeah.

And that's fine. Those are funny jokes. I'm not

saying don't make those jokes, but what I'm saying

is, is that something else could have been done

with this movie. I mean, even the comedy wasn't

nowhere near there as Deadpool one. I mean, there

was a lot of great scenes in comedy in Deadpool

one. Like what his face looks like and everything

else, I mean, there. Then him meeting his future

roommate and stuff. I mean, there's a lot There

was a lot there but in this instance with Deadpool

2 It just kind of fell short and yeah, there

was a little bit of Comedy here and there but

it just the comedy deliverance in that particular

one just didn't exist so ladies and gentlemen

i think we've hammered the nail on the head very

far because literally i tried taking notes and

then i just the notes section in the script for

me is completely i i'm curious i will admit that

i'm curious where steve fell on To, you know,

we'll, we'll find out because we will find out

and I will have Steve come up with some sort

of summary that he can give us because at some

point this is going to be episode 93 and episode

97 is the three of us doing the third movie.

Even though we've already done it on Kai dragon

media, the live show that we did. We're doing

Deadpool and Wolverine for this podcast in episode

97, so... No, folks, episode 97 is not gonna

be Deadpool and Wolverine. Deadpool and Wolverine

will be airing at episode 101 of Studio 2009

this December. This has been Editor Mike, now

back to the show. Steve will have a chance to

give his, like, summary of the first two films

of whether he liked them or not. And, uh, yeah,

cause I'm curious. I don't know very many people

that really... Liked it. I mean I just All around

it. I was expecting cable to be more height and

more excitement and stuff I was expecting Deadpool

and cable to be a bigger team up than what it

was. Yes Yes, and it just I felt like they tried

hard because they thought they could do something

that X You know the X -Men have barely been able

to do which is you know Tie into the days past

and stuff like that. I feel like they really

tried. I really do but It's just the writing

Just wasn't there And again, it's yeah, it's

just yeah, it just wasn't there at all I would

never recommend this movie for anybody This has

nothing for people to get excited about whatsoever

as far as the geek meter grade I am probably

going to give it a below average, which is a

No, I'm gonna give it a bad. It's a 2 .0 Bad

missed potential poor execution and lack of focus

plagues this one. It fails in a bunch of areas,

but not in a spectacularly bad way. I'm see there.

This is my problem. If I say three, it'd be leaning

more towards just your average. You know what?

It's a three. It's just an average video. I mean,

and for me, if you don't grab my attention, At

the beginning of it if you don't pull me in at

the beginning and make me feel invested then

I check out and then I Barely struggle to remember

those memorable moments and like you said you

fell asleep to it. Yep We watched the whole last

half of the movie twice. I Mean the the depth

in my opinion The depth that Deadpool 1 had was

so much greater than the depth of Deadpool 2.

I mean, this just felt hollow. And it felt hollow

in a way that wasn't a, oh my God, this is a

cash grab. It was it didn't feel like normally

movies that are go for the cash grab stuff You

can automatically tell how it feels about them

going for this didn't feel like a cash grab this

felt like they just Stopped caring and I don't

really feel like in my perspective that Ryan

Reynolds stopped caring, but I feel like there

had to been something behind Why? it underperforms

so catastrophically, because I mean, when we

say underperform catastrophically, this. With

the bigger budget, with the more effects and

everything else, this was the worst. And then

this goes back to what I've said. You just because

you have a higher budget doesn't mean it's going

to be some. Out of the park, you know. Holy crap.

This is amazing this and in this case that was

Pretty much spot -on that it was not that level

of greatness and the funny thing is is that it

is the first Film for the maximum effort production

company. Yeah, and it's bad Like how how do you

start your company? six years ago And you start

with Deadpool 2. Like, I mean, granted, they

had a hit with Free Guy. The Atom Project was

great. I absolutely love the Atom Project. I've

never seen Spirited. It's on Apple TV, whatever.

I don't do Apple stuff. Oh, no, I've seen Spirited.

Spirited was the one with him and Will Ferrell.

Steve and I covered that already. Coming up,

he's got IF, which is the imaginary... imaginary

figure, imaginary creature thing. And I expected

Deadpool 2 to have that reaction. It was honestly,

it was the worst out of all of them. Yeah, pretty

much. I mean, I don't think in reality, there's

anything you could have changed to make it better.

Nope. Nope, nope. Nope. So can I are on the same

page here Deadpool 1 absolutely amazing. It was

fun as hell Deadpool 2 You shouldn't watch it.

You should go from Deadpool to Deadpool and Wolverine

end of story. I would watch it just if you have

time to kill and You really want to see where

it all goes But problem is it doesn't go anywhere

Well, I mean at least yeah, cuz I mean The point

is he pretty much defeated the purpose. I mean,

he brings Vanessa back from the dead. So I mean,

it's like, well, there's your start to your whole

multiverse theory because he did timeline shenanigans.

And yes, they they do bring cable up. And again,

later on, there's a couple brief moments of it,

but, you know, it's. so It does pretty much show

that the second one does lead to the third one

but it's I said It's just not there and the fact

that it's just not there and it misses the mark

so hard that I Yeah, I just I wanted to love

the movie I really did. I was really excited

to see what cable was going to do. And like I

said a little while ago, I think if you had cable

and Deadpool at a better team up or a better

situation kind of thing, it would have been really,

really cool. But as it stands, it just is there.

And I don't care about movies that are just freaking

there. Yeah, I just don't. You lose interest

in movies that are there because it's like They

don't I don't want to say it's like they don't

appreciate you. But at this time at this moment

It just feels like exist Yep, by our bot watch

our stuff and oh, yeah. Thanks Yep, there's like

a giant swift kick in the nuts and that pretty

much. Yep, pretty much Yeah, folks. This is well

Was gonna say that double feature I could talk

all night about Deadpool 1 Deadpool 2 No, I just

can't talk much I'll put it to you this way folks

in the Let's just say eight hours that I did

commentary on the acolyte that I cut down to

a 20 -minute audio clip I stayed awake through

all eight episodes of the acolyte and I fell

asleep on Deadpool 2 twice so Just saying, Disney,

come on, let's go. I know technically the first

Deadpool thing wasn't Deadpool 2 for Disney,

but like, come on, so. Yeah, that was the Sony

at the time. Kai, where can the people find you

online? You can find me at KaiDragonMedia on

X. You can find me, look me up there. That's

where I do gaming content. Hopefully get some

more, get start getting some other projects on

there done. And also I have Kai Dragon, Kai Dragon

Gardening and Cooking, which is my channel that

I team up with my mom because she too is a gardener.

So it's a kind of a family of gardeners coming

together to grow stuff. And uh, I gotta thank

her a lot for all the work that she's been doing

and helping me. She's been amazing as far as

helping me get stuff going. Beyond that, you

can find me when I'm talking with you on GeekCast

Radio. Absolutely. Yeah. Kai's been, uh, Kai's

kind of become a fixture around here only because

I can talk him into doing stuff that he wouldn't

normally do on his YouTube channel. Cause podcasting

we can get away with a lot more for the most

part. Yeah. You're usually a fixture in mine

too. So I mean, absolutely. Absolutely. All right,

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