Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F Review

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You are now inside Studio 2009, only on the Geekcast

Radio Network. I'm of course TF2 and Mike, and

joining me for this 40th anniversary celebration

of Beverly Hills Cop and the release of the fourth

film, BHC AF, because BHC as fuck, are the Taggart

and Rosewood to my Jeffrey Friedman. It's Steve

Megatron. Hello, sir. Yo. And Dragon Lord Kai,

you guys can pick which character you want to

be. I kind of, I kind of think, I was going to

say Steve's Rosewood. Tiger. Yeah. Tiger. Yeah.

Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Uh, yeah. So Beverly

Hills cop Axel Foley, fourth film. It took 30

years to do, but I understand. But I remember

when we started the network back in 2009, There

were rampant rumors and everything and all this

and all that and I'm like and we were just like

it ain't never gonna happen. No I figured it

was gonna happen I because I was reading the

rumors for years it was like Keaton coming back

to play Batman like right secretly I knew. And

on top of it just the. The Oracle in me yes predicted.

That there'll be a day that it shall pass. Yes.

And July 3rd, as we've already found out, because

we're in the future at this point, but July 3rd

is the day or was the day for 2024. Oh, man.

So Steve wasn't born yet when the first movie

came out. I was four. Kai was four. I did not

see the first film. The 80s was weird for me

as a kid. I always ended up seeing sequels before

the first ones. I saw Ghostbusters 2 before I

saw Ghostbusters. I saw Beverly Hills Cop 2 before

I saw Beverly Hills Cop, and I love the second

film. I have always loved the second film. The

first film is great. It is, but that second film,

man, just, just wow. You have reached the home

of George Kingfish Stevens. I'm sorry I'm not

in now, but I've done going down to the Lodge

Hall. But if you like, you can leave a message

at the tone and I'll get back to you at my earliest

inconvenience. So for me, I saw Beverly Hills

Cop 2 first when I was a kid because I would

be old enough to remember that one. Beverly Hills

Cop 1, I didn't see until I was a little bit

older. I remember going to see it in the drive

-in theater. Which, you know, for some of those

that don't remember those, those were fun days

where you sit in your car and have a good time

and watch it all and. Or don't watch it all and

have a good time in your car. Yeah, exactly.

There was options. We'll just say drive in, take

out. Yeah, there was options there and. Always

loved it. Um Billy was my favorite side character

with Axel Foley just because To really made him

shine. I think yes. He really Yeah, I would I

mean I love Taggart saying quote -unquote F Rambo

during that one scene when he Blows up that truck

with the rocket launcher cuz it fires the wrong

way That just that screams Billy to me. And so

I've loved Beverly Hills Cops since I was a kid.

And three for me was just not really as good.

It was good that they had Billy in it, but it

just didn't feel the same without Taggart. That

was the big thing. For me that it just didn't

feel the same. I mean the new actor that came

in and I'm blanking on his name and he was a

comedian. He was okay, but it just it still doesn't

have the feel that the other ones did. Wasn't

until like I like Hector Elizondo Steve will

talk about him because he was on last man standing

with Tim Allen and all that but I like him as

an actor. But the best part of three with him

is at the end when they're all injured and Billy

comes in and falls over and he just and just

His carry Alessandro's character just laughs

at him because Billy's literally got bullet holes

throughout his entire body and he falls over

And Axel starts poking Alessandro's character

in the shoulder. He's like don't touch that Three

was alright. Three was okay. Three was transition

because it was 1994 and from the 80s to the 90s

movies changed. Like, the 80s was very comedy,

but it was also very gritty with a lot of films.

Whether it was action, or whatever kind of stuff,

or horror, whatever the hell it is. But the 90s,

they tried to go more comedy, and the plot of

Three is just, it's so generic. It's like, oh,

corrupt cop goes to blah, blah, blah, Wonder

World hides out, blah, blah, blah, or corrupt

federal agent, or whatever the hell Fulbright

was, not Fulbright. the other guy whatever the

other guy's name was anyway but uh but yeah two

is where it's at what about you steve i mean

what's not to love about the series like i i

love this way more than i like lethal weapon

and things like that like this was this was kind

of my you had the comedy of axel foley you know

eddie murphy the the dynamic of him coming from

detroit which is 45 minutes from my hometown.

So I really enjoyed getting to kind of experience

it. And yeah, I mean, I saw them obviously way

after they came out. Yeah, that's right. I mean,

I grew up on 80s programs anyway, just because

that was kind of the bread and butter in my house.

I mean i grew up on some ninety stuff too but

for the most part i mean it was it was a lot

of eighties comedies and. Eighties action films

and so like on the was really cool in my house

and you know then you had like you had the adam

sandler to the group and. You know various other

you know action stars and so i don't know i just

any murphy was another one of those it just kinda.

The Beverly Hills cop like he he stood out. Yep

Absolutely, and you bring up Adam Sandler and

you know what the sad thing is The other day

for a couple of years now more than a couple

of years now, but for about five or six years

now Normally, I don't drink Gatorade because

I don't like most of the flavors they have but

they did this Gatorade Zero frosted cherry or

glacier cherry is what it's called. And it's

this like cherry flavored Gatorade or whatever.

And I bought a couple of bottles of it the other

like last month and I'm like, Gatorade, water

sucks. It really, really sucks. Yep. Cause you

know, like again, the eighties and nineties,

there were time where things were timeless. Like

you know Banana in the tailpipe perfect example.

You are not gonna see a banana in the tailpipe

joke today because nobody knows How to do a joke

like that and pull it off and have it be funny

without you know Getting somebody offended. Oh

my god. Oh, yeah. Yeah blow that tailpipe Yeah,

the whole dynamic. I mean Eddie Murphy is an

incredible comedian and actor I've liked him

and damn near Everything he's been in I mean,

it was a shame when he really kind of stopped

doing a lot of stuff for a while But I think

it had something to do with that He was taking

time to raise his kids and stuff and he wasn't

doing as much which I'm gonna say that's commendable

That's something that a lot of people should

do but for me I think he's always outshined in

Beverly Hills cop. I mean, Axel Foley fits him

so well from his comedy days when he did raw

and boomerang and a lot of those. It just that

feels like that character's almost embodied because

yeah, he's going to have fun and do some really

stupid things. But at the same time, he's a serious

cop and He's not trying to hurt anybody, especially

at the beginning with the whole, uh, like I said,

panning tailpipe or taking them to the strip

club, which, you know, he was having fun with

them, trying to bond. Then he sees a crime getting

ready to happen. So of course, you know, he puts

on the serious face. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And that's

how he's been in every one of the movies. So

that's something I've always really liked. It

was a nice time to be funny and then switch off.

Like in two, he called Gerald or Taggart, Gerald

Ford in that other club, which was funny and

the whole thing every time he was. And every

time he put on a little scene. So he stole that

house in Beverly Hills cop too. He stole a hotel

room in Beverly Hills cop or I'm putting on these

little scams that he had, which was absolutely

hilarious. Yeah, he stole it. Go ahead, Steve.

Sorry. Well, I mean, I loved when he did it when

he was in the hotels and, you know, blah, blah,

blah. And, like, he would just play this, like,

victim, no matter what happened. And it was just

entertaining to watch. And the craziest thing

was... At the end of the first film, and we're

gonna get into the fourth film later, folks,

because we want to give you enough buffer time,

and we will be putting a spoiler warning when

we get to the fourth film. We're not gonna discuss

the fourth film just yet, but the funny thing

is, in the first movie, at the end of the movie,

he's like, here, Taggart, I want you to have

this Beverly Palm robe. He's like, no, actually,

you keep it. He goes, I got three of them in

my bag. You know, and he goes to, the hotel people

go to give him the bill, without even asking.

He says nothing. Taggart turns to the hotel clerk,

Oh, the Beverly Hills Police Department is going

to pick up the tab on this. Are you kidding me?

Like, no police department can pick up a hotel

tab in Beverly Hills, even if it is the Beverly

Hills Police Department. That's just, and I get

it. It's a part of the writing and it's a part

of the comedy. That's fine. But like, he didn't

even have to ask. I don't think he was going

to say anything. I think they were just going

to walk out. I don't think he was going to pay

at all. I think he was going to come up with

some of the scheme if Taggart didn't didn't say

that. I agree. He would have. Yeah, I have seen

the second film in the last. Well, it's been

40 years since the first film and 37 years since

the 37, 38 since the second film. I watch the

second film at least once every three years.

Because the second film is my favorite film.

It has everything. It has the Faltern Meyer score

that they started in the first one. But then

you add in Bob Seger's Shakedown and Neutron

Dance and everything else and it's like this

is a complete action comedy. And it was just

so fun. For me the third movie I agree it's not...

like we already said. But what I liked about

it was the fact that it... The thing about these

movies is it moves the character of Axel and

shows him growing each one. By the third movie,

Inspector Todd, his boss in Detroit, ends up

getting killed by Ellis DeWalt. And the last

thing that Todd says to him is... What do you

want a coffee break Axel go get that son of a

bitch and the dude dies Then obviously he goes

out to Wonderworld and does the whole Disney

thing with Uncle Dave Walt Disney blah blah blah

whatever and That was it and it was fine because

it kind of ended on like, you know kind of ended

on a hey balloons Everybody say, you know Axel

and everybody saved the day. Okay fine They did

and I'm not looking this up directly, but I know

they were going to do a television series I'm

glad they never did one because a movie character

characters that are written for movies specifically

Do not always need to try to translate to the

small screen and be a TV show And I don't like

Beverly Hills cop is not law and order Beverly

Hills cop is not NYPD blue Beverly Hill I could

insert whatever other cop show you know, whatever

you want me to say here but like that's not what

it is it's specific moments in Axel Foley's life

as he's evolved and grown up and blah blah blah

blah blah throughout his police career that's

what it is and the fact that it took 30 years

okay but at least we're here and at least we

now have the fourth film and we know there's

gonna be a fifth film so you know And like I

said earlier, Eddie wasn't gonna do it unless

it was done right. And I've seen several interviews

with him on YouTube and stuff with various whatever

outlets that are interviewing him. He specifically

said the only way he would come back is if the

story was really good and the script was really

good and they got Judge Reinholdt and John Ashton

back as Roseweed and Taggart. So, you know. As

long as that happens, hey, I'm here for it. I

do also think, though, that, and this is with

any franchise, not just Beverly Hills Cop, there

is a cutoff point. There is a point where, okay,

you've done this, this is cool, this is enough.

If there wasn't going to be a fifth film, the

end of the fourth film, I'm more than fine leaving

Axel Foley. You know, letting him, you know,

ride off into the sunset or whatever now at this

point. That's fine. That's not, but like, um,

we haven't talked about this yet. We will in

the future here on studio 2009, but bad boys

for life and bad boys ride or die. I haven't

seen the fourth bad boys film yet. I plan to,

I'm not judging it, but after that third film,

I'm like, okay, if they were going to hang it

up. Let him hang it up here and be fine because.

Not everything has to be a freaking franchise,

folks. Not everything has to be a 23 -film cinematic

universe. Not saying that's bad. I'm just saying

everything has its place, and Beverly Hills Cop

has never been to me where it was like it needed

25 sequels. But I'll interject on that one. The

biggest problem is with Hollywood, It's it's

all about the reboots. I mean, and trying to

find some new script. And I am glad that it was

Eddie Murphy in the original cast and not some

Beverly Hills cop reboot. I mean, granted, it

was 40 years later, but 40 years later, it still

had flavor to it, whereas. And I know we'll talk

more about it, but most. Sequels that are thirty

forty years aren't near as good or if they're

a reboot or a send off or something it makes

it really difficult and It's really hard to gauge

how good something's gonna be nowadays. So something

like this I was skeptical until I saw the trailer.

Oh, man. All right, so let's Steve, do you have

any thoughts really quickly before I go into

my trailer talk? Because I have a lot to say

about both of the trailers. No. Okay. So they

released the teaser. Okay. I don't know what

the timestamp is on the teaser, but they released

the teaser. And it starts off and it does its

thing and it goes into going back to Cali Cali

by notorious big and everything else and all

this and all that and I'm like I didn't even

know I like I figured it out because it's kind

of easy to figure out it's not a spoiler for

me to say if you watch that first trailer and

You see it open up and you see Foley in there

with Kevin Bacon's character Captain Grant and

as soon as he opens his mouth and says all these

years you've been running and gunning doesn't

it don't you aren't you tired i'm like okay that's

the villain like i didn't even need like i know

kevin bacon is the villain of this film i don't

know what's gonna happen but as soon as i saw

that teaser i was like okay uh -huh and i will

fully admit because i have been waiting for this

for we've all been waiting for this for 30 years

The day that that first teaser came out, I sat

here and I just kept hitting replay. I probably

watched it a hundred times the first day it was

released. And I know that's silly to most people

because it's just a trailer, but it's an exciting

time because holy crap, we're getting another

adventure with Axel Foley. And then the second

trailer comes out and I'm just like, okay. You

guys have got it just absolutely One done everything

and the biggest thing for me in that second trailer

one of the female Cops that's in there she goes

Only and all of a sudden you hear Paul Reiser.

Did you fully did you say fuck? I'm like, oh

hell yes, because Jeffrey was always such a great

character and again This fourth film shows that

all of the characters in this universe have grown

up. So, we are gonna be doing spoilers right

now, folks. If you have not seen Beverly Hills

Cop, Axel Foley, stop the podcast, go watch the

movie, and come back. You have been warned. 40

years, four films. This is gonna be a blast trust

me. It just is So where do we want to start Steve?

Probably at the beginning Well, honey guy I'm

just burning doing the neutron dance. Yes. Yes

you are So we got Eddie Murphy, obviously, Joseph

Gordon -Levitt, Taylor Page, Judge Reinhold,

John Ashton, Paul Reiser, Bronson Pinshott, and

Kevin Bacon as the main stars of the movie. And

I will say that this plot, nothing, there's nothing

in Hollywood or nothing in entertainment today

that doesn't have tropes or standards or plot.

types that we haven't seen before it just depends

on how you write the characters and how you write

the story this somebody could look at this and

say oh that's an episode of Law and Order or

whatever kind of thing but the thing of it is

is that we see the character of Axel Foley and

how much he's grown and how much he's been through

and and all of that and Yeah, we had a goddamn

snowplow. What's the problem? That whole thing

was great. I mean, yeah, it was. So my first

thoughts when I first saw it was I loved the

intro. They did really good with the intro. You

got the heat is on. So you got one of the classic

songs playing while he is going driving around.

And you can see that he's still doing his thing,

being a cop and being a smart ass of people,

which is great. And of course, like everybody

flipping them off and stuff. It's great. And.

Just it gave me that old original vibe with it,

and it just. It was very reminiscent of the old

days. For me. when i loved where the radio kicked

on when he's in the snowplow and you have the

dj in detroit you know talking about the you

know stay off the roads unless you're going to

a red wings game and then uh and then uh he's

like here's another classic and then it you know

it's playing music from the original but it was

just kind of funny how it came up like it was

like in universe not just like a overlay right

yeah and and so that was entertaining but i also

love the fact that he roped in his uh the other

police officer that they were going to the game

to. And he roped him in like, oh, look, you just

discovered the criminals for blah, blah, blah.

I've never laughed so damn hard on that one.

I was like, you just set up the whole thing like

this machination to get his way because they

were like, I thought you were taking off the

case. Oh, I was. That's why you're going to discover

it. Yeah, I laughed at the start of that. And

then first thing he does is calls his wife because

he's so excited and so that. Calling it in, like

you said, I just like, OK, this is priceless.

Guys calling it in. Hey, honey, guess what? I'm

on a police chase with Axel Foley. I may call

it in. That part just cracked me up with that

one. And then he was like, and when when his

old partner. Friedman, who's the police chief,

I can't remember his name because he's like a

different Friedman. He's not a big part, stop

it. Riser, is that what it is? Yep, Paul Riser,

the actor, yep, yep. Yeah, so Friedman, he's

like, oh, it's Axel, and he's like, he didn't

discover nothing, he hasn't solved a case in

like, x -month years. Five years, yep. yeah but

it was hilarious just how that kind of came about

and then he's just like i'm going good night

because he just came up with that one point because

he knows because jeffrey knows he knows what

axel is gonna do he knows the craziness that

is axel foley he's known for 30 years did you

say foley and he knows axel's right It's just

all the other bullshit politics. Yeah. Well,

it's his methods obviously Yes, but like and

they even talk about that after like this isn't

like 30 years ago where we can just kind of explain

this away and like you didn't have a scene where

Rosewood explore. Yeah Rosewood explains the

whole thing to the chief and then the chief turns

the tagger and he goes Sajid tag it what really

happened and Haven't just like you said chief

like cuz you know and it's just so cool and so

good and yeah, I couldn't stop laughing at yeah

from start to finish to that movie it had its

serious points, but there was just High adrenaline,

but also so many laughs. I mean the first he

goes into the locker room and pretends to be

a disgruntled hockey player wanting to jump in.

I was cracking up, but they're just like, who

the blank are you? And then he kicks their butts.

I'm like, okay, this is hilarious. This is, this

is priceless. This is classic Axel that everybody

knows and loves. And to me, It had a very good

story start to it. I mean, so since we're on

this far section, Jeffrey, you know, gets yelled

at, basically covering for Axel and he decided

he's going to retire. It's time. And he's trying

to consult with Axel to consider his daughter

because Axel hasn't seen his daughter in a lot

of years. And Jeffrey is really falling on his

sword to save Axel this time because, you know,

he says that they don't want actually, you know,

basically action cops anymore. They just want

social workers, social workers, which, you know,

kind of, you know, it's kind of true. Actually,

it really that resonated with me because it's

like, okay, he's battling. Time times have changed

that people don't like police as much anymore.

I'm not saying that just time, but I know what

you're saying. Yeah, I know what you're trying

today's times. So for me, it was like, yeah,

I can see how this is all played out here because,

you know, times have changed and Axel hasn't

changed with the times. He's still, you know,

the lone wolf or a wild guy that will do whatever

it takes to solve the case, even break a few

fractions of the law, like Beverly Hills cop

too, as he would say. So to me, it played very

well with, okay, it's 40 years and so much has

changed in the police world. And so when he finally

gets that call to help. Billy, in my opinion,

that. It showed the dynamic of how close they

still stayed for 40 years, even being outside,

you know, Detroit and Beverly Hills and how Billy

was still basically playing spy for Baxo with

his daughter, because he still always wanted

to keep tabs on his daughter, even though. His

daughter hated him so it showed that he still

cared But he was also still tied very much to

the job Absolutely, and you look at judge Reinhold's

filmography here I would say the most famous

breakthrough for him was playing private Elmo

Blum in stripes in 1981. He was in fast times

at Richmond High after that. The Lords of Discipline

after that. Gremlin, he was in, that's right,

he was Gerald Hopkins in Gremlins, wow. He had

Gremlins and Beverly Hills Cop both in 84. Holy

crap, Roadhouse 66. Beverly Hills cop to vice

versa soldiers will what daddy's training play

or not train places i was the one with Fred Savage

that was a good one where they use the skull

and body swapped. Oh yeah and then in nineteen

ninety four again thirty years ago which means

that Steve for christmas this year we have to

cover the franchise he. did Dr. Neil Miller in

the Santa Claus movies. And that basically showed

everybody that he has the chops as an actor and,

and, and everything else. And he's been in a

bunch of stuff since then. And obviously now

they're back with, uh, with, uh, with BHCIF,

but yeah, no, like Rosewood as a character was

always so great. I agree. You can never have

too much firepower. My favorite. Billy, we got

to talk. That's right. Yeah. We're like this

one where, you know, he's handed a pistol at

one point. It's like, what am I supposed to do

with this? Shoot it, Billy. And then he just

picks up the AK that's laying there instead.

He's like, this is what we're talking about.

Yeah, this is. Yeah. Yeah. Billy's. It's kind

of like the line in the in in the truck we on

the end, you know like a seatbelt we on the edge.

It's like I Missed you axle. Yeah, that's right

The one that I had is I didn't feel like there

was enough Billy or Taggart That's the one thing

that I wish there could have been a little bit

more of I Understand for the plot purposes, but

I do hope in it and the sequel there is more

of them, but I also understand They are much

older today, so that may not be as possible due

to their age So the funny thing so again the

first from the first two films to the fourth

film with Taggart and Rosewood Again, just like

Foley's character. They're all growing up there.

Whatever. Yes, Taggart is the oldest of them

all and Billy and and an axel or the same age

but Taggart always was like, Oh, I'm retiring.

Oh, I'm doing this or, Oh, I'm good. He was always

that old gristled white cop. And I'm not saying

that to be racist or anything. It's just the

fact of what his character was. Yeah. And he's

always, Oh, Maureen left me or we got back together.

I never needed to see Mrs. Taggart. I never needed

to see Maureen and we see Maureen in this and

barely. No, no, yeah, I know it's I know it's

barely it's like half a scene or like whatever

because he's on the treadmill there but it's

just one of those things where it's kind of like

Vera it's kind of Vera Peterson and cheers. You

never needed to see Norm's wife. You knew Norm's

wife was You know kind of thing And again, like

Steve said, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a very,

very small scene, but like you said, Kai, they're

all older. They're all whatever. And I think

the reason why you didn't see as much Rosewood

and Taggart in this is because of the way the

story was structured for this where Taggart is

the Beverly Hills police department chief. And

Rosewood is out doing privateized stuff. Right.

Has to come back together. Yeah. Right. And like

I said, my hope is that, you know, in the next

one, since there that is in production, there

is more of them. But I also understand age makes

a difference. They're not spring chickens anymore.

The actor that plays Tiger, it's 76 years old

and John Ashton and Judge Reynolds is 67. Yeah,

I mean. And Eddie's only what 63? Yeah, he looks

still like he's in his like 50s. He does I was

impressed with With Jeffrey he's like, can you

believe we had the same age? Mm -hmm. He's like

he look old Yeah, I mean, I think that's more

of you're right Steve, but I think that's more

of I mean, it was an in -universe joke, but it

was still funny. Right, no. Yeah, no, no, no.

I'm not saying it's not funny. I'm just saying

like, yeah, it's an in -universe joke. It's a

thing, a thing, a thing. And it's one of those

things where they both have been through a lot.

And they talk about how Jeffrey doesn't like

his psychopathic grandson. I laughed when I heard

that one. That was hilarious. But I mean, yeah.

And Eddie's career? Mean he's done so many different

things and he's been able to Be in things that

are separate from this universe that are it's

like he's got the nutty professor stuff He's

got track where it's donkey and now they have

a standalone. Yeah, it's just yeah donkey. So

I mean Yeah, they're doing an untitled fifth

Shrek film which I personally think is unneeded

because after the fourth one they kind of left

it off on a On a whatever, but hey, if they want

to do a fifth one, fine. Whatever. Uh, like you

said, the untitled donkey film, which is going

to be interesting, I think. You on that? I mean,

I don't really feel like you really need it,

but it's going to happen. Yeah. It's just like,

and, and to me, this was maybe also a redemption

arc for how bad Beverly Hills cop three was.

I mean, I'm not saying it was like it was that

bad. I don't give it a lot of crap, but I mean...

But it wasn't as good as one and two. But it

still had its charm. But look at Die Hard 4 and

5. Yeah. Or Lethal Weapon 4. Yeah. I agree with

you on that. But I feel like that's partially

to why Eddie didn't want to reprise. Right. Until

it was done how he wanted it correct a legit

story not just a cash grab something fun something

in universe something that made sense. Yep yeah

and i agree and i think that's what he did as

well because yeah it. It just wasn't as good

as as one and two and he even knew that i mean

that's why he didn't come back for a long time.

Okay, so we have a 0 to 5 with half point scale

here at the GCR and we call it the GECO meter

because we're renaming it now. If I was going

to rank the first three films, one and two are

easily fives. The third film I would probably

put at a three or a 3 .5, which is not a bad

ranking. You guys can see the, if you click on

the thing in the post description on geekcastradio

.com, you can see all the descriptions of how

we break down the Geek -O -Meter here at the

Geekcast Radio Network and all that. After I

watched the fourth film, I went back and I watched

the other three films. And I still absolutely

love certain parts of that third film. Like we've

already discussed. With this fourth film, I knew

this was going to be good, like you said, with

Eddie coming back and wanting to really do it.

Also, Jerry Brockheimer. I don't remember the

last time Jerry Brockheimer had a bad movie.

It puts out stuff like just One of my favorite

movies from still is falling down with Michael

Douglas. Yeah. Yep. I was gonna say Kirk Douglas

was like no, that's wrong So as a producer Brockheimer

From 1980 to 2022, American Gigolo, Flashdance,

Beverly Hills Cop, Thief of Hearts, Top Gun,

Pop 2, Days of Thunder, Gemini Man, Top Gun,

Maverick, and Secret Headquarters in 2022. Oh,

I gotta stop you a little bit. His stuff that

he's done with Don Simpson. Yes. Has all been

good. Yes. The stuff that he's had Jerry Bruckheimer

films without him. Right 97 to present As it's

progressively gotten later. Yeah, basically after

he broke 2010 Uh -huh the films got progressively

worse Okay, I I do agree with that separate from

yes, but from let's say So again, Under Walt

Disney Studios, Motion Pictures, The Ref in 1994,

Crimson Tide and Dangerous Minds in 95, The Rock,

Con Air, Armageddon, Enemy of the State, Coyote

Ugly, Gone in 60 Seconds, Remember the Titans,

Pearl Harbor, Bad Company, The First Pirates

Movie in 2003, National Treasure 1 and 2, Deja

Vu... You're literally listening to a ton of

movies that are so good. I know that's... That's

my point and that's Steve's point. These are

all movies before 2010 and in 2010 everything

after 2010 was was kind of crap and Especially

when it came to a Disney production and to me

that kind of speaks volumes that It's not him

per se I think he just got the short end of the

stick and being stuck with crap productions and

crap crap scripts that nobody wanted but I I

I think it's funny that every time Don Simpson,

Jerry Bruckheimer films are together, they've

got almost a slam dunk on every everyone. Yeah.

Oh, absolutely. And I think. Yeah. So, I mean,

without and I'm not going to name all the films,

but yeah, pretty much everything after 2010 on

his own has been crap. So when you bring up Disney,

it also depends on how much creative authority

he had. To change things compared to say more

independent like with him working with Eddie

Murphy on this one. How much freedom did he really

have with Disney? Cause I mean, Disney really

puts the thumb down on a lot of their. Well,

they want creative control and that's part of

the issue too. But the funny thing here is that

we also have Eddie Murphy productions on this

film. Yes, and it's distributed by Netflix and

Netflix, although they don't tell anybody what

their stuff makes they generally Play in the

nostalgia realm Yeah, they like nostalgia. They

like things that are likely going to sell They

also like the fact that you know, like they did

Fuller house. They did, you know, they've done

this film. They've done some various other things

that are kind of you know having Adam Sandler

with his entire catalog because They were like,

hey people watch the crap out of it. Even if

they suck people watch the crap out of it, you

know, so It to me that speaks that they're they're

like, what are people actually watching? Not

necessarily. What are the numbers? What are the

what is keeping people subscribed? Yeah, and

the thing about Brockheimer and Simpson Unfortunately,

Simpson died young. He was 52. He died in 1996.

So... Oh, wow. Yeah, so Jerry... That production

company portion knows what they're doing. Yeah.

I mean, absolutely. I mean, again, it's just

one of those things where, like we already said...

And like Eddie has said and everybody, as long

as it's a good script, they're going to do it.

And as long as he can still do it, they're going

to do it. There's no like, but again, as I said,

also it's like, there's also a stopping point.

It's okay if you stop. It's okay if there isn't

a fifth. I mean, there's going to be a fifth,

but it's okay if there's going to be a sixth

or a seventh film, et cetera, et cetera. Cause

sometimes you got to leave the characters somewhere

and Again, if there wasn't going to be a BHC5,

I think at the end of this movie... Was a good

start point. It was. It was a good... Yeah, it

was a... It was like, okay, this is cool. And

I will say that all the people and all the actors

had such great chemistry together. There was

a list of great actors with this. The plot was

solid. There was... I didn't really see anything

that really screamed, oh my God, I hate this,

or it didn't have... A lot of politics and it

was just what I missed with eighties and nineties.

You got your storyline. You've got your emotion.

You've got your humor. You've got the dark parts.

You've got everything that we miss when the eighties

and nineties are around for movies. And it was

so good. And that it was just a fun movie. And

like I told my After the review on it, I'm like,

this should have been in theaters. This would

have done very well in theaters compared to what

is in the theaters today. This would have made

money. Especially once it got word around that

how good this movie was, people would have went

to see it. Thing is, I'm not a theater goer anymore,

but I probably would have gone. Same. I think

all three of us are in that same boat. The last

time I saw anything in theaters was 2018 when

Karen and I went to see Transformers the movie

when they did the, the, the re airing in theaters

for Transformers the movie. But at the same time,

there are movies that if I could get to a theater

right now today, which I can't with the way the

public transportation is in the town that I live

in, uh, I would go see this in the theaters.

I would have gone to see bad boys for life. Third

movie this fourth movie that that's that's whatever

Like I would have gone to see all of those in

theaters. I would have gone to see bumblebee

in theaters I would have gone to see rise of

the beasts in theaters the last one I've seen

was Super Mario Brothers and I would have went

to seen this one because it just Everything was

so good about it. I just I I cannot find anything

bad with this movie. There was nothing that really

bothered me. I mean, I mean, from. I know what

you're going to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignoring

that, ignoring that, because it was just the

way the character was. I will say that it was

all in all just fun. Something that I missed

so much is the fun element. Yep. When, uh, when

geek, when we first launched the cast radio,

we were doing every now and then on geek cast

radio, the flagship podcast we would do. I think

we actually only ever did one on that podcast,

but we would do actor spotlights and we did an

actor spotlight on William Shatner at the time.

Yep. And I mean, this whole episode first year,

2009 is essentially an actor spotlight on judge

Reinhold, John Ashton, Eddie Murphy, everybody,

et cetera, et cetera. But there's one actor that's

in this that is new to this franchise that I've

followed almost his entire career. And I kind

of want to do a spotlight on him. Joseph Gordon

Levitt. He did fantastic in that role. He was

spot on this scene for me. I mean, I've seen

him in The Dark Knight Rises when he was, I think,

Blake and he was going to be Robin. But. Overall,

this, I think, was one of his best performances,

and they really, really made him shine on this

one. Absolutely. So really quickly, and I know

I'm going to list a bunch of things here, but

I'm going to list all the ones that I know off

the top of my head. He debuted as student number

one in the original Beethoven film from 1992,

The Big Dog Beethoven. He then did A River Runs

Through It. He did Angels in the Outfield is

the first film I actually saw him in. That's

with him and Danny Glover and all that stuff

and their angels and all that. 25 years ago,

he played Cameron James in 10 Things I Hate About

You. I have loved that movie for 25 years and

I will continue to love that movie until I die.

He was Jim Hawkins in Treasure Planet, the animated

movie, as we already said about some of the other

stuff. Uh, I'm trying to see here. He, I did

not know this. I did not remember this. Steve,

he was freaking Rex Lewis slash Cobra commander

in the rise of Cobra. I remember that because

I absolutely got that film. I know it was, I

really forgot about that one too, but yeah, I

hated that one. He was Arthur and inception.

Like we said, he was Robin quote, John Blake

in, in dark night rises. He was in looper. He

was in Don John. Uh, and this is just his movies.

I did not know. By the way, but yeah. No, it

says Don John. J O N is what it says here. Yeah,

it's like Don Juan. Anyways, they should spell

it right then. Uh, But he was also a voice in

knives out, which knives out is something we're

going to cover at some point. I love that movie.

His big TV thing was obviously three, not three.

Wow. Uh, three, a third rock from the sun with

John Lithgow. So Joseph Gordon Levitt, amazing,

amazing actor. He's had such a career. Absolutely

love that guy. And you're right, Kai, this movie,

that character of Bobby Abbott. He's one hell

of a cop shot cause damn he hit every target.

Yeah. And you know, the whole story, you know,

going after corrupt cops and stuff. I know that's

been a lot of people say maybe that's been played

out, but the way they did it, it really flowed

together very well. Absolutely. And that's the

point that I will say you can do repeats of stuff

story -wise if you make it flow well and make

it make sense. Well, and again, you go from the

second film to the fourth film. The second film,

there was supposed corruption with the mayor

and everybody else, but there really wasn't because

it was all about the jewel. The second film was

like the perception, like, oh my God, we needed

to look this way or that way with going after

the gun runners and the jewelry heister and all

this and all that. But this fourth film, and

I'm very excited to see what they do for the,

for the fifth one to just whatever. But, and

I can safely say folks since July 3rd, when this

movie was released, I think I've watched it four

times. You're probably going to hear this podcast

on July 5th, 2024. So within two days, I've watched

this movie four times. It's that damn good. I

plan on watching it with my family this week.

That's, I mean, I think my folks are going to

love it. They're just watching Beverly Hills

Cup one and two. The other day, like multiple

times, I passed through in the hallway and there

was one or two on and they love it too. I'm thinking

when they see it in July 3rd, they're going to

love it. Absolutely. Anything else on this one,

Steve? Anything else we need to bring up? I mean,

the story was pretty predictable as far as the

story, because anytime Kevin Bacon shows up.

Yeah, yeah, he's. notorious for bad guys. He's

pretty much synonymous with a bad guy. I almost

admire you. Still on these streets. Running and

cutting. I'm just amazed. I think the trailer

gave that one away. That was the one thing because

there was a specific trailer. Just the moment

he stepped foot on screen. And he started talking

about, you know, how thankless the job was. Yeah.

And I was like, he is the bad guy. Like, but

even like the way he carried himself, he just

he has that arrogant bad persona. But a character.

And so, like, honestly, I knew what we were getting

into. And it was very much, you know. Almost

similar to doing Beverly Hills cop one in a lot

of like it mirrored a lot of elements of it.

But it also gave it a lot of fresh spin and a

lot of like just age. Yeah. And for me, the trailer

with him holding the gun was the big one. The

way it was in that chase, I just I just kind

of felt that. He's the bag. So I remember telling

you when we were watching the trailer, I said,

I think he's the bad guy. And not just because

he's known for playing really good bad guys in

almost every movie he's been in. But the that

and they didn't really make you guess all the

way to the end. It was literally within the what?

First 40 minutes. you pretty much if you hadn't

figured out from the meeting when they follow

the bad guys to the hotel roof where they're

partying then yeah then at that point you're

like oh well they really are trying to find a

way to put him behind bars but they don't know

how because he's been very sneaky about it all

yeah i mean yeah and again you have actors that

Play villains really really well you have actors

that play heroes really really well You don't

necessarily need like I get it if you want to

you know Spread your wings and fly and do something

else and not always be known as the villain.

That's great. And he's done some interesting

stuff that is not where he's not a villain. He

did the voice of Balto in the animated film Balto

in 95. What's the other one? Wait a minute, where

is that movie? I swear I remember that. Why isn't

that up here? I swear he was in the air up there,

but I could be wrong. Yeah, there it is. He played

Jimmy Dolan in the air up there in 1994. It's

the one about the American sports catcher It's

about the one where he goes across the across

the con find a superstar basketball player he

was in a bunch of other stuff and It's just fun

I think he was Jack Brennan in Frost and Nixon

and say what you want about the whole Frost Nixon

whatever the hell thing He was another villain

in a he's in the X -Men is the fact look we all

know about six degrees of set Kevin Bacon you

can find Kevin you can connect Kevin Bacon to

almost anything and The fact now that he's in

Beverly Hills cop well he was whoops spoilers

folks not gonna say what happens, but yeah But

again, I don't think you needed this franchise

is not about Super deep thinking it's not about

like I think I said something about Joseph Gordon

Levitt being an inception. You don't need an

inception for Beverly Hills Cop. You just don't.

You need a really good story where Axel eventually

will come out on top the winner and the victor

and the good guys win the bad guys lose. That's

really all you need with this. And that's what

we got. And it was so good. And the music don't

even get me started because holy crap. I do know

as of this recording, by the time you guys are

hearing this, hopefully we'll actually have a

release date. La La Land Records is working on

getting the score together from Lorne Balfe and

everybody else and all that. So I know they're

working on a limited edition CD as they always

do. I've already talked to my buddy Matt over

there. about all that but the way the music was

put in like you guys are saying earlier in the

podcast about how they use the heat is on at

the beginning and then they use shakedown as

the main kind of thing later and whenever they

can fit in the falter meyer classic theme because

There are certain themes in movies, animation,

whatever, that you just instantly know and you

instantly get excited about. Every time the Axe

of Left theme came up, you knew something badass

was going to happen in this movie. Yeah, they

really did play every score from one and two,

which was fantastic. It was really a true tribute

to Beverly Hills Cop. This whole series. I mean

it was Everything you could ask for with movie

plot the way axle fully behaves the old school

guys plus the new school guys Everything about

it all flowed beautifully together. The score

was absolutely fantastic And you know, I couldn't

complain about it at all. I mean I you know within

the first you know, probably 10 minutes when

he's in Beverly Hills, neutron dance kicks on.

And I'm just like, okay, it's just fricking amazing

because that is such a good song. And it's reminiscent

of the time where he was in the cigarette truck,

except this time it's different and it's, it's

still all around just great. Yeah. And I love

how every time he has to go out to Beverly Hills,

there's always a truck full of something. Alright,

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2009 with myself TF2 and Mike Steve Megatron

and the Dragon Lord Kai from Kai Dragon Media

Guys zero to five. What are we gonna give BHCAF

Steve? I would give it probably I'm like tempted

to give it a five Mm -hmm. Just because I don't

know if I triple dog dare you I'm probably gonna

give it a five because the lack of just quality

films I've seen in the last like couple years

and It was just enjoyable from start to finish.

Like I wasn't looking at the time. I was like,

man I really want to keep watching this movie.

Yep, and I was like, oh shoot. It's over I was

hoping for more like Taggart and Billy and Axel

scenes, but I mean I was happy with what we got

but Yeah, I mean, I just was really hoping for

more of it. I'm sure we will get more soon in

a couple of years or maybe next year, whenever

they're going to do the next one. What about

you, Kai? I absolutely am giving it a five. I

mean, the reason I'm giving it a five is it was

a great throwback to one and two, the music,

the story. Everything was fine. I'm a lot like

Steve on this. I lost track of time. And when

it was over, I'm like, is this it? I want more.

And it's very rare for me to sit there and be

like, I really want more of this movie. A lot

of times I'm looking at my watch like, oh, my

God, this is boring. I couldn't find a place

in there where I had to stop and think, I don't

want I'll skip this part. I mean, it was all

around great. And I mean, I know it may sound

biased on to give it a five, but. There is so

few movies that meet that criteria today that

I feel like it was a chef's kiss, a great tribute

to the series and Eddie Murphy and cast did a

tremendous job reprising their roles and bringing

in the new blood and telling us kind of showing

how everything's changed in 40 years, including

the Lego. Place car which cracks me up, but so

that's kind of my thoughts on it. It's your price

car We all the Lego cups. That's right. No, it's

fine man. Yeah, that was so funny Yeah, and I'm

right there with you and I will say I'm gonna

say this there's one scene. I wish was a little

bit shorter not saying it doesn't need to be

there i'm just saying i wish it was a little

bit shorter and that's the scene when they go

to the open house with the Beverly Hills Valley

girl lady and i'm just like shut up please one

of the villains put a hole in her head put a

hole in her knees put a hole in her elbow so

oh my god that real estate lady just but at the

end of the day that's like half of a scene half

of a second if it was just a slash half of a

second less, I would be fine. I'm not taking

anything off because of that, but that was the

only scene where, because again, I watched the

movie four times in three days or whatever it

was, but yeah, no, five out of five. Easily and

I will say this now there is not another movie

that's gonna come out there I don't know what

else is coming out in 2024 for me right now There's

not another movie that could come out that could

top this there just isn't there's only one that

possibly could top it for me this year well to

thinking about Deadpool and Wolverine and Beetlejuice

and to agree Sox three's kind of the sure. Yeah,

December. Yeah Okay, so you still got some good

lineup this year then. Very good lineup. Yeah,

we have a good lineup, but again, okay, I'll

give you Beetlejuice because Beetlejuice and

Beverly Hills Cop, they're not the same thing

obviously, but you can kind of align them a little

bit. Deadpool and Wolverine and Sonic 3. Sonic

3 is a video game movie and Deadpool and Wolverine

is the superhero universe. I don't compare those

to action movies like Beverly Hills Cop Axel

Foley or Bad Boys Ride or Die or things like

that. I'm saying specifically in the action genre

that is not superhero. I don't think there's

another action movie that's going to come out

this year that's going to top this for me. I

could be wrong, but I don't think so. All right,

promotions, Kai, what do you want to promote?

Well, I have two YouTube channels. I have Kai

Dragon Media, where I ever do a lot of streams

for games, talk about games, review games. I

also have my Dragon server, where I have a talk

show that talks about pop culture, movies, games,

music, whatever we can think about with TFG1

Mike as my co -host and also when Steve gets

opportunity, come on Steve as well. And if you're

not interested in that stuff, I do gardening

as well. Gardening and cooking. I have Ky Dragon

Gardening and Cooking on YouTube, where we have

about 10 videos up right now for all sorts of

gardening. You'll learn how to make pasta sauce

later, how to can pasta or sauce and all sorts

of fun stuff as we grow through the growing season.

So there's a lot of fun stuff there. And I appreciate

for the invitation to be on here. Absolutely,

absolutely. Steve, what about you? What do you

got going on? Well, I'm still working on the

new GeekCast Radio website. Um, and then, uh,

I don't know, just kind of trying to catch up

on various projects. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.

Coming up here inside Studio 2009. Next time

around, my buddy, Dave Draper is going to be

back. We're going to do a double feature. Movie

I've only ever seen once as a child and I've

never seen again because it scared the ever -living

crap out of me Which surprisingly it also has

its 40th anniversary this year We're gonna combine

that with what Dave says is a really really good

movie So we're doing a double feature of I think

it's a Netflix film. I don't remember I know

it's on Netflix, but RRR We're gonna combine

that with the 40th anniversary of Indiana Jones

and the Temple of Doom. Oh god I know the fourth

and I know the fourth and fifth film in that

franchise are the worst ones, but I've never

cared for temple of doom. And then after that,

Dave and I are going to do the 35th anniversary

of Indiana Jones and the last crusade. I've got,

and you'll probably want the greatest ever. Yep.

Third film was the best one. Uh, you'll probably

want to listen to this one. Steve, I've already

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to do his Gamer Origins. And then Steve and I

are going to do the Deadpool double feature where

we talk about the first two movies leading up

to Deadpool and Wolverine. So that's what's coming

up here inside the studio. Thank you for joining

us. As we said, we're all giving Beverly Hills

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and Mike with Steve Megatron, the Dragon Lord

Kai of Kai Dragon Media. You'll hear us back

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