Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure and Bogus Journey Review

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of a bogus journey. Yeah Yes, so tonight Today

tonight whenever you find people consume this

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doing Inside the studio for the first time I've

only ever seen bill and Ted the bill and Ted

movies Infrequently and in bits and pieces. I've

never actually seen them all the way through

until now And Holy crap I enjoyed them. They're

good, aren't they? Well, I mean, it's an 80s,

I don't want to say it's an 80s throwback, because

it really isn't, because it came out, first one

came out in 88, second one came out in 91. They're

not really, they're not really dated, but there

are some 80s movies that I can rewatch. Specifically,

I'll say Back to the Future. one two and three

um weird science uh cocktail tom cruise and brian

brown in cocktail uh transformers the movie i'm

trying to think of other 80s things um stopper

non -stopper well stopper my mom and shoot with

those 90 91 so kind of fits in but the point

is is that these 80s movies for me They are not

something that I would be rewatching on a regular

basis I enjoyed what I saw I enjoyed the acting

I enjoyed the story However in the future I'm

probably not going to be facing the music to

these films I'm I'm kind of excited to watch

the third movie to be honest just because I want

to see what they do with it. And yes, there have

been, and always will be, when you're picking

up continuations of shows, there's going to be

this aspect that's not quite as good as the originals,

or will not stand the test of time. And yes,

I think that there could be an element of that

in Bill and Ted Face the Music. However, I think

that because it lives in this weird time travel

universe And the way that it messes around I

think that we could end up with actually a really

good movie for continuation as as opposed to

like Die Hard 5 which was utter garbage and Things

like Dumb and Dumber 2 that honestly didn't need

to be made so so again, I think that This movie

I think will be pretty decent Yeah, the third

movie looks really good. My wife wants to see

it And after seeing the first two now, I want

to see it as well. All as I was really meaning

was that While I enjoyed Bill and Ted one and

two and in the moment that I saw them for the

first time I'm like, oh, that's cool. Oh, that's

cool. But you know For me when someone says party

on I think of Wayne and Garth before I think

of Bill and Ted Yeah, I mean I can I can see

that but honestly I like this more than I liked

Bill and more than I liked Wayne and Garth Really?

Yeah I found this more Almost more natural like

they look because they look that part they look

that age they don't whereas Wayne and Garth look

old Like like they live in their mom's basement

type of thing like they they're old they're old

guys sitting in there and it just it kind of

I Don't know. It just doesn't really resonate

with me all that. Well So Yeah, I mean, I think

that they they did really good with this plus

I enjoyed Wasn't it William Sadler that plays

death? Mm -hmm in the second one. Yeah, it's

gonna be in the third one which is kind of in

a sense going to be like the Like the Rufus role

since George Carlin is unfortunately not among

us Yeah, I was actually really surprised cuz

I hadn't seen these. I mean, like I said, I've

seen them sporadically I've seen different pieces

of them, but I've never actually I was like hey,

wait a second That's George Carlin is Rufus that's

friggin awesome Yeah, that was really really

cool. I dug that The first film the basic plot

of it is is that Rufus goes back in time to make

sure that Bill and Ted go on their Paths in life

Yes in order to make sure the utopian Bill and

Ted future is is secure and this basically means

that they have to not fail their history report.

And I find that interesting that they tie it

into school and learning and how these two knuckleheads

are basically dweebs because they're not learning

the education that they should be. Pretty much.

But I love the premise of them having to go back

and they end up just basically stealing people

from time. Yeah, especially Napoleon Mm -hmm.

That was funny Yeah, I definitely enjoyed the

first one more than the second one Yeah, the

second one yeah the the whole thing with death

yeah, I liked that But on a whole like I think

I like the first one better Yeah, I like the

first one better I do enjoy Bogus journey because

bogus journey I'm really surprised that That

Excellent adventure doesn't have a tie into another

franchise but bogus journey No, well, I mean

I would rather be in a DeLorean or a phone booth

than a TARDIS. But anyway, that's just me personally

Yeah, it kind of is but whatever anyway Yeah,

so I know right Sorry folks. We're not Whovians

Now that there's anything wrong with Whovians

Exactly. It's just not our thing if it's your

thing. That's amazing and that's a beautiful

geekdom You can unleash the geek in you and no

matter what it is exactly so in bogus journey

We have a 80s connection because the main villain

Was Arjun Rudd in Lethal Weapon 2 Diplomatic

immunity Yeah, see I didn't catch that because

I haven't seen that movie in forever soon as

I heard his voice I'm like, where do I know that

guy from I knew him like I just didn't know where

Yeah, as soon as I heard his voice, I'm like,

wait a minute. Is that who? Oh, yeah. I looked

it up on IMDb and I'm like, hey, Mr. Arjun Rudd.

Diplomatic immunity. Yeah. What I find interesting

is that between the two films, they had two directors,

two different directors. The first film's director

was Steven Herrick. And he has done a bunch of

cool things. His debut as a director, according

to Wikipedia, was Critters in 1986. He then did

Bill and Ted. He did Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's

Dead, The Mighty Ducks, The Three Musketeers

in 93, Mr. Holland's Opus in 95, which at some

point on this show we will... Talk about that

movie. 1996 is 101 Dalmatians, Holy Man with

Eddie Murphy in 98, Life or Something Like It

in 2002, Man of the House in 2005. He's done

a lot of really cool things, according to this.

And again, this is just Wikipedia. The last thing

he directed was The Great Gilly Hopkins in 2015.

He's also done some television stuff. Nothing

that oh interesting yes television stuff he Directed

one episode of one of my favorite shows that

you actually got cancelled Dallas he directed

the episode entitled false confessions from TNT's

revival of Dallas Yeah, in case people don't

know I said a snide remark about it getting cancelled

and Mike was like don't say that and then it

got cancelled Exactly. Yeah, it is what it is

What was your favorite scene in the first film?

The first film I Liked the Knights scene surprisingly

enough Where he thought that Ted was dead But

I liked I liked how they kept bringing all of

the different aspects in there and Napoleon eating

all the ice cream and You know, they're like,

oh, who's a chubby bunny or whatever? And and

I just started laughing. I thought it was pretty

funny And then he just kept licking the plate

clean like I've never had this before But then

there were a lot of other moments to you know,

whenever they started Picking up like when they're

in the Wild West I Liked I thought it's funny.

I used to see the Circle K and like a lot of

movies And I was coming from Michigan. I'd never

like I knew that it's in like Bill and Ted I

knew it was in you know, the Kevin Smith movies

and I Was like I have no idea what this place

is. Like I didn't know if it was just created

for the sake of these movies or if it was a real

place and It wasn't until I came to Colorado

My first circle K and I was really I was like,

okay, this makes sense Like I know where they

are now around here, which is funny because they're

about as common as 7 -eleven You don't see any

like other than shell you see no major gas stations

here like maybe well you see like a Like the

Phillips 66 and the Like the Sinclair the one

with the dinosaur or whatever But you really

don't see anything else here unless it's like

some kind of an off -brand thing so it was funny

for me to see the the the circle K there, but

I liked the pretty much anytime roof has showed

up. I really enjoyed it because It's so funny

to see George Carlin subdued yeah which only

happens when he's in film. Mm hmm. So that was

nice. And then, of course, getting to getting

to see them kind of time travel and talk to themselves.

And it just it was really a lot of fun overall.

That conversation makes a heck of a lot more

sense now. Yeah. Yeah, for me, I enjoyed everything

with George Carlin as Rufus. I enjoyed, even

though we didn't see much of them, I liked the

council members that send him back in time. I

think they were kind of cool. Let's see. I like

that Bill and Ted make friends with the historical

figures and they're not just there to Like, Bill

and Ted are the most bungling kidnappers ever,

but they more or less, you know, suggest or more

or less trick the people to going with them or

basically they just stumble into the phone booth

kind of thing. I love that Billy the Kid is kind

of like the lead hero for the historical figures.

I think that was cool. It's funny because he's

the most like them. Just time displaced. Yep.

very much so and it doesn't tell you who's about

to die like some of them they they have to do

the the history report you think some of them

would be like hmm maybe we shouldn't go back

so that's very cool in the second movie um i

i like it i think You know it added something

new with having the evil Bill and Ted and and

having them kill them and death come in and The

funny thing is once death becomes a part of the

band. I'm like, ooh This feels like a live -action

version of Billy and Mandy from Cartoon Network

It kind of has that vibe but as I would almost

assume that that's where that came from originally

Maybe who knows most likely The one thing that

confused the hell out of me with Bogus Journey

is at the end, Bill and Ted eventually take their

act to Mars. And I'm like, okay, why, but whatever.

I don't know. What did you like about the second

one? Well, the second one I enjoy because it...

It's different, but there was aspects of it.

I really didn't care for it like for instance.

I I didn't like the whole scenery where they're

in hell Yeah, that was a little much. It was

a little much. It was a little creepy I liked

where they they argued with death And then they

they played board games, and they're like best

out of three best out of five best out of seven

You know and then finally gave up And it's like,

fine, I'll just take you. And then, you know,

and then they go to heaven and then they end

up talking to these two creatures, which reminded

me of the aliens that were in the. It was either

like an earnest movie or it was like the Masters

of the Universe film. I was getting that vibe

from it and I knew that it was different but

I thought that it was kind of interesting that

they were very similar I mean granted they all

came out around that time so it could have been

the same studio saying all right you got to make

this work with these props and these muppets

and we're not giving you any more money yeah

so it could have very well been that which I

could see but It still was a little little creepy,

especially when they came together into one I

Liked how they they did the effects with the

robot Bill and Ted Yeah, that was cool and and

the ghost Bill and Ted where they they were in

a seance They were it was basically like your

it was like a prequel to Like the scary movie

franchise that came out, you know that kind of

parodies freaky movies Yeah, cuz this movie kind

of did it all before those did it Very much so

it did. Yeah But no, I mean I liked I liked the

inclusion of death which kind of was a natural

bridge because George Carlin wasn't really in

it all that much except for the beginning and

the end like But yeah, I I was very Happy that

they they had that kind of in there now In terms

of this film and the third one it kind of leaves

a little bit, you know kind of up in the air

Yeah, especially the way that this one ends and

the new ones are gonna begin Like oh they you

know diverged from history Yeah Yeah, that was

a little interesting like I mean I like the whole

idea of face the music and I enjoyed that trailer

But I'm not sure how the third one's gonna bridge

the gap or how they're gonna What kind of time

travel tomfoolery they're gonna? Well or on and

they also make and I again this is just judging

off a trailer. I'm not Putting it down because

I really want to see it It's it's kind of funny

like if they were gonna have like face the music

I was assuming that Bill and Ted would have gone

and Got like real jobs and just became boring

grown -ups and then had to have their younger

selves kind of like in the pants So It would

have been interesting to see that kind of a thing

play itself out especially since they're dressing

the same and trying to talk and act the same

And Keanu just sounds old Trying to do his his

Ted Like Like the one that plays Bill like he

pulls it off pretty well Alex winter. Yeah, Alex

winter, but Keanu Reeves just man Yeah, I was

like he sounds old And I mean, I know they are

they're in their 50s, but still like it just

I was like I don't I don't really know and then

I thought it was kind of funny because they they

have them go to the the jail and the trailer

and you see You know this this heavily buffed

Bill and Ted Mm -hmm with like this evil rock

band sound to him So it's it's definitely gonna

be interesting to see when this comes out and

to kind of revisit and and kind of update our

thoughts on it, but But no, I mean I enjoyed

the second one. It wasn't really a time travel

thing per se is coming back from the dead Yeah,

and that they blundered their way through that

it was almost like watching a Scooby -Doo episode,

but with sci -fi so yeah and they were both fun

films they're just not for me personally they're

just not rewatchable enough like i would probably

see them again maybe before the third one comes

out maybe um i don't know yeah so the third one

We're supposed to have both of them basically

actually come through By the end of it what's

funny is Somebody called it out actually earlier

this week or last week and says This was like

June 18th when it came out says Wait does Bill

and Ted's bogus journey take place in an alternate

timeline? Because it says like clues from the

first, you know trailer of face of music hinted

alternate timelines are possible Especially wild

stallions travel to the future and meet their

jailed musclehead versions of themselves And

there's a glimpse of the duo playing air guitar

with death and it looks like the apocalypse is

happening just outside his office window Which

points to another possible timeline where they

were never able to complete their song So I kind

of wonder you know how that plays out and There's

there's also mentioned that if It is an alternate

timeline it could mean that the version of roof

is from the second movie was actually from a

different plane of existence entirely And there

they're alluding to that this could be the reason

that you know Prove that it's rufus's fault why

they still haven't been able to complete their

song to bring the world together due to a split

in the universe Yeah But yeah, they're they're

gonna have like a tribute to george carlin in

there They used to have a bill and ted cartoon

back in the 90s Yeah, they did. I never watched

it, but I knew that they had one Yeah, I never

watched it either. I knew it knew it existed

though. Like you said Is there anything else

on that? I mean, I know we're not going super

in depth on it or anything, but... Like I said,

I watched it. I enjoyed them. I think they're

funny movies. I think the characters are really

well -rounded. I think that putting them in the

situation that they were in in Bogus Journey

was... Interesting to the point of being necessary

for the characters because you had to especially

at that time in 91 That kind of plot was all

over the place So I thought that was interesting

Like you said there's probably gonna be something

there's gonna be a tribute to Rufus in in the

third one But they do look as much as I love

Keanu as John Wick They look a little too old

for Bill and Ted now. Yeah. And unless they're

gonna do, like we've said, CGI or some sort of

whatever, like basically cut some of the old

footage from the first two films to match, to

make the younger version, I don't know how they're

gonna do it. They can do all kinds of stuff nowadays

with potential and whatever. I just look forward

to seeing how they play this out and how it works.

Yeah, same here. On a whole. I'm Again, just

looking forward to it. They do say that there

are multiple references to George Carlin in this

third movie Basically his tributes One of them

being that they named it a new character Called

Kelly, which is a name specifically chosen honor.

George Carlin is the same name as his daughter

The second reference it to Carlin is more of

a connection to Rufus with the movie set to feature

a watch that has been a keepsake from the first

movie, Bill and Ted. And it has been revealed

that at some point in the upcoming story, the

heroes will find a message from Rufus written

on this watch that says, sometimes things don't

make sense until the end of the story. There

you go. So yeah. So yeah, I look forward to seeing

how this plays out. And again, Yeah, it's going

to be interesting to see how this all comes about.

Absolutely. Especially with Bill and Ted having

kids. Oh, man. Well, they had to grow up sometime,

right? Well, did they? So what would you give

the first movie out of the five star rating?

Zero to five I'd probably give it a four like

I said, I enjoyed it. I thought it was funny.

I laughed a lot Yeah, four out of five what about

you um I'd probably give it a four and a half

only because I'm gonna give the second one probably

a slightly lower rating And it was really good,

and I did enjoy it because it was different mm

-hmm So for the second movie I would give it

I would give it a four Maybe a three and a half

just kind of depends there was a good portion

of movie I liked but there was a good portion

of movie that I was like, okay I I'm kind of

done with this so I would kind of blitz through

it, but For me on the second one, I'm probably

basically just gonna give it a straight three

middle ground Not that it's good or bad. There

are good moments in it There are also as you're

saying there are moments that kind of make us

a little uncomfortable like the whole thing in

hell and whatever else But I get it. That's part

of the movie It's part of the story and it works

for what it was. It just didn't appeal to us.

I guess obviously So there is that. But I mean,

four for the first one and three for the second

one, that's not bad. I mean, it's not like we

gave them a two and a one. No, I've seen worse

movies. Yeah. Anything modern, Adam Sandler.

Oh, no. Anyways. Can tell we're gonna have to

have a Adam Sandler episode at some point the

the decline of Adam Sandler or something. I don't

know anyways Coming up next on the show here

inside the studio is Episode 7 we're getting

hungry. Yeah pizza pizza That's right. It is

entitled The Goodness of Pizza and it comes out

of something that Steve did on Facebook that

I have screen caps of that I eventually kept

going back and forth with his lovely wife Mary

about how logically pizza is good for you. And

she just kept saying, nope, nope, not really.

Technically, she's not wrong. Technically, I'm

not wrong either. No. I used to have a steel

stomach. I'll leave it at that. Yeah. I did have

Domino's though. Hey now. Domino's, okay, that's

part of the conversation that we're gonna have

next time. Domino's has gotten a hell of a lot

better since the 80s and 90s. Oh yeah, I liked

it when they changed the recipe, but we're not

on the Domino's episode. But I did finally get

her to cave. You beg long enough. Well, I can't

be like trucks going by delivering pizza And

I was like man that Domino's really looks good

We're driving home. She's like I gotta go to

the store and she came back with pizza and I

was like, yes There you go So that's what's coming

up here inside the studio as well Anything you

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