05 – Podcast Approach with Steve and Mike

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There's nothing wrong with your podcast player.

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Do not attempt to adjust the volume. Hello and

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welcome to Studio 2009. I'm, of course, TFU and

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Mike. Joining me as always is Steve Megatron.

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Hello, sir. Hello. And in this episode, we're

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at episode five now. Yay, five episodes, and

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we're not canceled yet. They can't cancel us.

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We are debuting what I am calling podcast approach.

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I mentioned this at the end of episode four.

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Basically, I have come up with 25 questions to

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interview fellow podcasters from being a listener

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to having their own show to being podcast producers.

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And because this is a new show for Steve Megatron

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and myself, even though we've told this story

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for the last 11 years. We might as well tell

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it again and give you guys our own podcast approach.

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I don't know if it's going to be in this episode

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or the first guest episode, but I did have our

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good friend TV's Mr. Neal put together a little

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clip for us to introduce the whole segment thing

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of podcast approach. I'll have to send that to

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you in the aftermath of this, see what you feel

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about it. But anyway, I just, I want... Studio

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2009 to be something, as we've said before, refreshing

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for us, refreshing for our listeners, and something

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different. And I figured if we talk to fellow

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podcasters about how they got started and how

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they approach it, it might help us find new ways

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of approaching the way we do it in the future.

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True. And this is not going to be an every month

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kind of thing, even though for the first two

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months, episode five and episode 10 will be podcast

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approaches. But it might go every other month.

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It might go every couple of months. In between,

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we don't know. It just depends on how we feel

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about the topics we want to talk about each month

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and if we can line up a guest. What I've found

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is now that I'm living on. the west coast of

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the country, I'm aiming for more of the people

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that I know out here than the people I know back

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east. Not that I don't want to talk to the people

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back east. I do. But as we all know, time zones

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suck. They do. I just recorded with somebody

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from the eastern time zone and I'm in Mountain.

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Yes, you are. Alright, so... I guess I should

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let you go first on this. We're not going to

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be going through the questions. I just wanted

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to let everyone know that there is three sections.

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The first eight questions are the beginnings.

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Question nine to 14 are how people are listening.

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And then 15 to 25 are for the producing side

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of it. But basically, how did you get into podcasting?

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How did you find it? How long did it take you?

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listening before you're like i want to do this

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well i think i first discovered podcasts back

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in i would say 2005 because i listened to tf

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wire and i don't remember where i found it or

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how like i think i was going through um Transformers

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fandom websites and I'm not sure which one because

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a lot of the ones I used to frequent are defunct

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now but they had they had a link for TFWire anyway

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and so I went and listened to it and I was like

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oh this is kind of cool like audio player you

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know I can sit here and tune into this and I

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was fresh out of fresh out of high school, uh,

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the year before. And, um, I didn't really, I

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think it was towards the end of 2005. I started

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listening to it. Um, because in 2006, I, I was

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listening a lot more because I started working

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in a car dealership and I was like, well, I got

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to do something other than just listen to music

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while I'm up here. So I listened to, Oh, I think

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I'd listened to it even before TF wire. I listened

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to this week in tech with, uh, Leo Laporte. Yep.

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Um, And I think that was my first foray into

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that and the tech guy. I listened to both of

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his shows for a while, and then I started adding

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other ones to the lineup. And I went directly

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to, I think I used iTunes to download them. I

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can't remember, though. So I started doing other

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searches and started downloading a bunch of shows.

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And then I eventually, in 2006, kind of laid

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in there, joined TFWire. And I did the War Stories

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podcast throughout most of 2007. And I did the

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Transformers, the movie episode with them and

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one of the episodes of Play On. And then I kind

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of caught the podcast bug after that. After my

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shows ended. And I was like, I want to do one.

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And so they were having like a pitch your own

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show, which... Funny enough was the initial concept

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for what became MWire and even to some degree

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what Cinema Geeks kind of did for a while there.

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And I called it Weekend at the Movies and I did

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like a mock episode of it and sent it to them.

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And it unfortunately fizzled out. Like it never

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made it to an episode, I think, because it needed

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critiquing and other things like that. And I

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wasn't honestly sure if I was going to be able

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to stick with it. So I ended up scrapping the

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idea. I still have, funny enough, the original

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test episode. Oh, wow. So because I listened

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to it, I dug it up recently, and I was like,

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oh, I found it. And I listened to it, and it

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wasn't actually as bad as I thought, but it was

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the show I came up with before I started doing

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all things Transformers. And then that, because

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that fizzled out, I'm like, well, I have my own

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website. I have productonempire .com. I'll make

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my own podcast. So I started working on all things

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Transformers, and I kind of ran it similar to

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TFWire in a number of ways, but then I kind of,

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because it was partially solo and partially with

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somebody that was kind of obnoxious, and I distanced

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myself from him because he got in trouble with

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one of the Transformers sites for allegations

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against sexual harassment. And I was like, well,

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I want nothing to do with you, dude. And so I

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went solo until I met you on Twitter. I just

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have to say this. I never knew that guy. I never

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met that guy. But when we did that one episode

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of All Things Transformers, ATTF, This Is Your

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Life, I painstakingly went back through the first

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seven episodes of ATTF. And some of those he

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was on, most of them he wasn't. But the ones

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that he was on, I was like, I'm an audiophile.

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I love listening to certain voices and there

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are certain voices. It doesn't matter who it

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is. It's in the voice. If I don't like the sound

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of someone's voice, probably not going to listen

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to it. Probably going to avoid it at all costs.

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And the way that dude sounded, I'm like, yeah,

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I could see him being on an episode of whatever

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show is on investigation. Like, you know. Investigation

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discovery or forensic files or whatever, because

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yikes. Anyway, continue. So after I went through

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that. phase of going through Twitter and just

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kind of trying to find people. I was listening

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to, at the same time, This Week in Geek, because

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they were on CRNC 91 .1 or something, 92 .1 or

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something. 90 .1 CRNC The Heat. The New Heat

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or whatever. Yeah, New Heat. And I remember at

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the time, it's kind of funny because I always

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favored one personality over the other. I won't

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mention which one. And then it reversed later.

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So it was kind of funny. But I also enjoyed the

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Double D segments on those, and I always wanted

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to do something like that, but I was never creative

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enough with creating the stories. I was a frequent

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commenter on their show and constantly sent stuff

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in, and then I eventually took all the Double

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D clips and edited them into one episode. That's

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very cool. I remember that. And they were like,

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that's awesome. Those were some of my favorite

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skits in the program. I just loved the program

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at the time. And then, of course, you wanted

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to do a Transformers Generation 1 review show.

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Yeah. My journey... Oh, boy. So, ever since I

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was... I'm just going to say seven or eight,

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but I know it was earlier than that. Growing

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up in Boston, Massachusetts, or just south of

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Boston, actually. I would listen to the Lauren

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and Wally Morning Show on 105 .7 WVBF at the

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time. It is now WROR. And I'm like, I want to

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be a fly on the wall in that studio. I don't

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want to have to do anything. If I have to bring

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them coffee or donuts or whatever from Dunkin'

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Donuts, fine. I'll go get the donuts. I don't

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care. I just want to experience it kind of thing.

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From that point on at that young age, I had gravitated

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to certain radio programs up until now at 40

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years old. And because I had moved around and

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I lived various places by 2006, I was living

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in Louisville, Kentucky at the time. And I wanted

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to be able to listen to Lauren and Wally. Well,

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they were doing. basically cut down versions

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of the radio show as podcast episodes. So I'm

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like, what the heck is a podcast? Okay. I have

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iTunes. I can at least look this up. So I looked

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it up. It was there. I found them. And then after

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that, I found a world's finest podcast, which

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at first I thought it was actually Bruce, Tim,

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Eric Radomski, Paul Dini, all the. the DCAU guys

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talking about their shows. It was not, it was

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two guys, one from Chicago, the other from somewhere

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in Georgia, Atlanta area kind of thing. Mike

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at Mike, Michael David Sims and James Doe. They

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had at the time they had released, I think up

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to, this was close to the middle of 2007. I think

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it was about 10 or 15 episodes. They reviewed

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every single episode of every cartoon of the

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DC animated universe, starting with Batman, the

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animated series, Superman, Justice League, Batman

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Beyond, Justice League Unlimited, the Zeta project,

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static shock, all that stuff within a hundred

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episodes. So I had listened to that, listened

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to that. I started corresponding with, with Mike

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and getting podcast tips from him. That's how

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I. Found out about Audacity and everything else.

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So that was 2007 into 2008. And by the end of

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2008, I was working for a nonprofit child care

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organization. I did basically the night shift

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work. So I had my days free. What am I going

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to do with all this free time since I don't really

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have to work until like 5, 6 p .m.? And I'm like,

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I can do this. I can talk to myself. I can, you

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know, whatever. And I'll be the first one to

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tell you. First 8, 9, 10 episodes. Until I brought

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on Pecan Court Michael and eventually you, the

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first 9 or 10 episodes of TFG1 Podcast suck ass.

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They just do. I don't know. So I learned that

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I was not a... I was not a solo show kind of

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person. I needed somebody to bounce off of. And

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once you and I met and started talking and we

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had similar interests and similar ideas and ideals

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and everything else, we're like, let's figure

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out how to start a network to have all this stuff

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all in one place. And, you know, from, I think

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it was from, yeah, it was six months, January

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to June. We spent the six months of 2009 making

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sure everything was as right as it could be to

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start the Geekcast Radio Network at www .geekcastradio

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.com. Yep, and from there, it's history. It is

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history. I remember I started with a... Thank

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God I learned better. I started with a crappy

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Walmart headset mic. Oh, God. So bad. I actually

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still have that picture. I have a picture of

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me, like, looking off to the side so you can

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see, like, the left side of the headphone where

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the mic... Oh, God. Never again. And then eventually

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I found the CAD U37 condenser mic. And I've been

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using that ever since. I actually, it's funny,

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Michael David Sims from earth2 .net. It's earth

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-2 .net. His equipment broke or whatever. Something

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happened to his microphone. So I pointed him

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in the direction of the one I had. And I think

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I, I know I pointed him in the direction of,

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I don't remember if. I got it for him or if he

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bought it himself, I'm not trying to throw him

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under the bus. If, if it was him that bought

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it for himself, but basically I'm like, here's

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what I'm using. It works the best that I know

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that microphones can work at this point. As far

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as I know, he still uses that. I could be wrong,

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but, uh, yeah. So, and then eventually, uh, thanks

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to our buddy, uh, Dustin Vancouver, Dustin was

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prime who we both kind of met through twig. Cause

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he was a listener of twig and, uh, By the time

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that happened, I think I was running Twig. He

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turned me on to these JVC noise -canceling headphones,

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and I've been using that ever since until, you

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know, I moved out here to Washington State, and

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sadly my computer didn't come with me, and now

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I'm semi -retired in podcasting and recording

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from a smartphone. Yeah, it doesn't sound as

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bad as you would think, though. it no it doesn't

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i it's not ideal but it's much better than what

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it was say when optimus solo and i were recording

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tooncast and he was on his phone that was you

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know back in 11 years ago you know phones 11

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years ago aren't as good as phones are now that

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is true yeah my audio equipment started out with

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a nine dollar desk microphone and a um when i

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first started all things transformers and then

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um it changed later to a logitech clear chat

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pro usb headset um and i used that for a while

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i think about about a year or two and then uh

00:16:58.190 --> 00:17:00.830
i noticed that anytime i had to breathe it was

00:17:00.830 --> 00:17:05.369
constantly getting in the way um so i did some

00:17:05.369 --> 00:17:07.390
research and I talked to some people and I bought

00:17:07.390 --> 00:17:13.049
a blue Yeti, um, which I still have, um, still

00:17:13.049 --> 00:17:15.390
works. I bought, I mean, since then I bought,

00:17:15.589 --> 00:17:19.009
um, a microphone arm for it. Uh, I've bought

00:17:19.009 --> 00:17:22.210
a shock mount. I've bought a windscreen filter

00:17:22.210 --> 00:17:26.710
and a pop screen filter. So, uh, overall it picks

00:17:26.710 --> 00:17:29.309
up the sounds I want it to, and not necessarily

00:17:29.309 --> 00:17:34.160
the extras, but, um, But it is quite nice having

00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:35.900
it because I can actually pull it. I don't have

00:17:35.900 --> 00:17:40.019
to lean into it. I can pull it right up to my

00:17:40.019 --> 00:17:42.259
face so it collects the sound that I'm wanting

00:17:42.259 --> 00:17:47.019
it to pick up. Yeah. You'll have to have your

00:17:47.019 --> 00:17:49.940
wife at some point take a picture of you doing

00:17:49.940 --> 00:17:54.180
that so I can see how the setup is. Because I

00:17:54.180 --> 00:18:01.279
would love to have... It's actually funny. You

00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:04.000
had said at one point off air that you wanted

00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:09.299
a certain microphone or something. And I'm like,

00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:12.819
oh, OK, let me go look at this on Amazon. And

00:18:12.819 --> 00:18:15.420
I put it in my I think I put in my card and I

00:18:15.420 --> 00:18:17.839
put it in my wish list. I don't remember. Anyway,

00:18:17.980 --> 00:18:22.829
it was this certain microphone. uh one you don't

00:18:22.829 --> 00:18:25.029
have yet that you said oh i would love to have

00:18:25.029 --> 00:18:28.450
this at some point and i'm like oh i should probably

00:18:28.450 --> 00:18:30.809
upgrade to at some point it was the uh audio

00:18:30.809 --> 00:18:35.369
technica atr 2500x usb that's the one i want

00:18:35.369 --> 00:18:38.569
yeah if this breaks that's what i'm getting yeah

00:18:38.569 --> 00:18:43.190
um and i i was looking at this thing and i'm

00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:45.710
like oh that actually looks really really cool

00:18:45.710 --> 00:18:49.049
obviously you can do a you know a mic arm and

00:18:49.869 --> 00:18:52.829
put a pop filter on it and all that good stuff.

00:18:52.890 --> 00:18:57.069
And yeah, sadly right now on Amazon, it's currently

00:18:57.069 --> 00:19:00.150
unavailable, which makes me mad, but that's the

00:19:00.150 --> 00:19:03.589
way Amazon is. Yeah. Just have to find another

00:19:03.589 --> 00:19:09.329
listing. True. Very true. So where are we going

00:19:09.329 --> 00:19:17.390
next? I, let's see, where are we going next?

00:19:18.619 --> 00:19:24.980
We're going to the future. So, okay. One of the

00:19:24.980 --> 00:19:26.880
questions that we'll be asking other people,

00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:31.799
as far as podcast listenership goes, as a listener,

00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:36.519
what defines a good podcast to you? As a listener?

00:19:37.019 --> 00:19:43.640
Yeah. Hmm. Let's see. As a listener, what defines

00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:47.640
a good podcast for me is... When the hosts are

00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:54.240
engaging, the audio quality is not garbage. And

00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:58.200
they have a message to convey, something that

00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:01.220
I can learn from it, something that's entertaining

00:20:01.220 --> 00:20:08.000
or a theme that really interests me. And that's

00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.900
kind of about where I go with it. I pretty much

00:20:11.900 --> 00:20:14.920
stick with tech podcasts, occasionally pop culture.

00:20:16.139 --> 00:20:19.059
Um, I don't listen to that big of a variety of

00:20:19.059 --> 00:20:21.380
podcasts. Um, I mean, I listen to some parent

00:20:21.380 --> 00:20:24.140
stuff now, but I mean, it's very infrequent.

00:20:24.619 --> 00:20:33.200
Um, but I, overall I enjoy, um, when I listen,

00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:36.660
it's typically shorter podcasts, but that's because

00:20:36.660 --> 00:20:39.640
I have a short, I mean, right now I'm not driving

00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:42.259
again to work. I was driving to work for about

00:20:42.259 --> 00:20:48.950
two weeks, but, um, but, Yeah, I mean, I would

00:20:48.950 --> 00:20:52.710
say that's about it for me at the moment. Yeah.

00:20:53.230 --> 00:20:59.730
For me, it's more of, like you said, the host

00:20:59.730 --> 00:21:04.750
has to be engaging. They have to do the best

00:21:04.750 --> 00:21:07.349
they can to convey what they want to convey.

00:21:07.829 --> 00:21:11.599
And honestly, for me... What defines a good podcast

00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.819
is what I've been listening to lately is more

00:21:14.819 --> 00:21:19.579
interview shows than anything else. I've been

00:21:19.579 --> 00:21:22.660
touting this since I found it last year. Music

00:21:22.660 --> 00:21:26.500
Talks with my buddy Terry Smith, he basically

00:21:26.500 --> 00:21:31.720
has his guests choose one song from each decade

00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:34.819
that they've been alive. And he then asks them,

00:21:34.900 --> 00:21:37.660
okay, why is this the song for this decade for

00:21:37.660 --> 00:21:40.269
you? what was going on in your life. I actually

00:21:40.269 --> 00:21:44.170
was on one of the episodes for his show, but

00:21:44.170 --> 00:21:47.470
I just love the format. I love the way he asks

00:21:47.470 --> 00:21:51.710
the questions. It's just super interesting. Another

00:21:51.710 --> 00:21:55.769
one for quote unquote review stuff. I'm starting,

00:21:55.769 --> 00:21:57.670
I've started to listen to superhero cinephiles

00:21:57.670 --> 00:22:00.950
with Perry Constantine and my buddy, Derek Ferguson.

00:22:01.009 --> 00:22:04.859
They basically review superhero movies. I've

00:22:04.859 --> 00:22:07.460
listened to several, not a lot of them, but several

00:22:07.460 --> 00:22:09.960
of Michael Rosenbaum's Inside of You episodes

00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:12.799
where he interviews various people. Ooh, he's

00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:15.160
got one with Bob Odenkirk. I should listen to

00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:18.380
that. I haven't listened to that yet. So anyway,

00:22:18.579 --> 00:22:23.680
I think what got me going on that was he had

00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:26.160
interviewed Stephen Amell. And in the middle

00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.180
of the episode, Stephen had a panic attack. And

00:22:30.180 --> 00:22:34.230
it plays out on the podcast. He then cuts to

00:22:34.230 --> 00:22:36.450
a break and Steven had come back to finish the

00:22:36.450 --> 00:22:41.650
episode at a later date. I just I love the interview

00:22:41.650 --> 00:22:45.970
style shows. I still enjoy review shows, like

00:22:45.970 --> 00:22:53.950
I said, with with superior cinephiles. But for

00:22:53.950 --> 00:22:56.970
me, it's it's all about voices and it's all about

00:22:56.970 --> 00:22:59.369
the chemistry that the hosts have with each other.

00:22:59.609 --> 00:23:04.139
If I can clearly tell that the hosts are. As

00:23:04.139 --> 00:23:10.519
a listener, I'm going to be uncomfortable. So

00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:15.559
there's that. So another one of the questions

00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:18.359
that we'll ask at some point once we get actual

00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.640
guests on here. As a listener, do you start at

00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:24.519
the beginning of a podcast, the most recent episode,

00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:28.039
or do you jump around? I think it depends on

00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:31.920
the show. To be honest. Absolutely. If it's a

00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:35.519
show where, you know, it's a review show, I start

00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:37.539
at the beginning. If it's a current podcast,

00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:44.240
if it's evergreen content, I may download 10

00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.980
to 30 episodes and just log them on my MP3 player.

00:23:49.980 --> 00:23:53.019
Just based on the fact that I want to, you know,

00:23:53.019 --> 00:23:55.660
like for instance, if it's a podcasting or a

00:23:55.660 --> 00:23:58.829
voiceover. uh, podcast, I'll download a plethora

00:23:58.829 --> 00:24:02.170
of them. Uh, but if it's like a, you know, one

00:24:02.170 --> 00:24:04.829
of our type podcasts, I typically download the

00:24:04.829 --> 00:24:10.950
newest one and listen to it. So, yeah, this is

00:24:10.950 --> 00:24:14.349
why obviously we didn't do this with studio 2009,

00:24:14.349 --> 00:24:18.150
but normally I do a podcast episode zero introduction

00:24:18.150 --> 00:24:21.269
thing. So I can point people to, okay, this is

00:24:21.269 --> 00:24:24.059
our introduction. Whatever other episodes we

00:24:24.059 --> 00:24:26.779
have, once you listen to this and get the genesis

00:24:26.779 --> 00:24:30.579
of what the show is, you can then skip to episode

00:24:30.579 --> 00:24:34.079
5, episode 10, whatever your interests are. I

00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:39.660
will say it's been a long time since I marathoned

00:24:39.660 --> 00:24:42.500
a podcast. Back when I was listening before I

00:24:42.500 --> 00:24:45.960
was producing them, I had listened to the first,

00:24:46.019 --> 00:24:48.660
I think, 12 episodes of World's Finest Podcast

00:24:48.660 --> 00:24:52.410
within two and a half, three days. That was back

00:24:52.410 --> 00:24:57.690
2007. When I found out that another buddy of

00:24:57.690 --> 00:25:00.710
ours, Mike Laidman, and his friend Chris Blonsky

00:25:00.710 --> 00:25:03.150
had a podcast called Part -Time Nerds, Full -Time

00:25:03.150 --> 00:25:07.750
Dads, I think I blitzed through the first 43

00:25:07.750 --> 00:25:09.990
episodes, listened to every single one of them,

00:25:10.029 --> 00:25:16.809
within five days. Because I hadn't heard Mike

00:25:16.809 --> 00:25:19.089
on a show in a long time, because Mike himself

00:25:19.089 --> 00:25:22.490
was not... He wanted a podcast with his wife,

00:25:22.569 --> 00:25:25.289
Laura, and she was kind of, yeah, I'm kind of

00:25:25.289 --> 00:25:28.849
done with that for now. And then he and his buddy

00:25:28.849 --> 00:25:31.230
Chris started Part -Time Nerds, Full -Time Dads.

00:25:31.269 --> 00:25:33.769
I will say if anyone does listen to this show,

00:25:33.910 --> 00:25:36.410
listen from the beginning because you get their

00:25:36.410 --> 00:25:40.349
journey of how their children were born. And

00:25:40.349 --> 00:25:44.049
it's very, very interesting. After that, you

00:25:44.049 --> 00:25:46.869
could probably skip around if you want, but I'm

00:25:46.869 --> 00:25:53.930
up to episode 75 currently on that show. Cool.

00:25:54.049 --> 00:26:04.450
Cool. Yep. Okay. So another question, this is

00:26:04.450 --> 00:26:06.109
more of a, this is going to be very interesting

00:26:06.109 --> 00:26:07.869
because I know what your answer is going to be.

00:26:07.910 --> 00:26:10.930
And I know what my answer is going to be. One

00:26:10.930 --> 00:26:13.630
of the questions as a podcast producer that we'll

00:26:13.630 --> 00:26:17.170
be asking guests is as a producer, how much time

00:26:17.170 --> 00:26:20.559
do you put in the editing of the show? Depends

00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:25.420
on the program. That's true. It depends on who's

00:26:25.420 --> 00:26:28.240
on it, depends on what I'm trying to accomplish,

00:26:28.500 --> 00:26:32.079
and how much time I have during the week. I mean,

00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.319
theoretically, they say you should put in double

00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:37.039
the edit time that you take to record. I never

00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:40.839
do that, but that's only because I don't have

00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.680
that kind of time. And I mean that these are,

00:26:43.779 --> 00:26:49.220
you know, hobby podcasts, not podcasts that we...

00:26:49.470 --> 00:26:53.309
actually make money with i don't put as much

00:26:53.309 --> 00:26:57.769
effort as i could um i know how to do the things

00:26:57.769 --> 00:27:01.049
and i used to you know at some point i used to

00:27:01.049 --> 00:27:03.349
edit a lot of stuff a lot more in depth than

00:27:03.349 --> 00:27:06.109
i do now i just don't have the free time and

00:27:06.109 --> 00:27:08.809
honestly when i do because i mean i'm still adjusting

00:27:08.809 --> 00:27:11.730
to a different recording dynamic uh it seems

00:27:11.730 --> 00:27:14.210
like it changes every three to six months um

00:27:14.210 --> 00:27:20.799
i I kind of go through this point where once

00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.660
in a while, if I feel so inclined, somebody swears

00:27:23.660 --> 00:27:25.960
too much, I'll throw in Barnard sounds. Whereas

00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:32.400
other times, I enjoy the fact that depending

00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:35.359
on what method I record people in, whether it's

00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.240
Discord or Skype, if it's Discord, I can have

00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.259
them on separate tracks. I always try to level

00:27:40.259 --> 00:27:43.559
all the audio, no matter what I'm on. Uh, so

00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:45.900
that, that added a little bit of time, uh, cause

00:27:45.900 --> 00:27:48.779
I used to not do that. Um, but with all of the

00:27:48.779 --> 00:27:51.019
different remote recording setups and everybody's

00:27:51.019 --> 00:27:53.059
microphones, I try to make sure everybody's on

00:27:53.059 --> 00:27:55.299
the same level so that it's not a, Oh, I can't

00:27:55.299 --> 00:27:57.200
hear it. Oh, they're too loud. Oh, there's, you

00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.559
know, so it's, I try to make sure I take care

00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:04.019
of that. Um, but on a whole, it, it, like I said,

00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.980
it kind of depends, but, um, anywhere from like

00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:12.839
30 to 45 minutes, I usually spend. Like you said,

00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:18.160
it depends on the show, and it depends on who's

00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.000
on the show and how long the show is. I need

00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.200
to work in somewhere where we can ask people,

00:28:24.299 --> 00:28:27.980
either as listener or producer, what do you prefer,

00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:30.880
short shows or longer shows? Because when I started

00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.559
listening, I was listening to two -plus -hour

00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.279
podcasts. Again, I had all the time in the world.

00:28:36.299 --> 00:28:41.890
I still do now. Sometimes the long shows can

00:28:41.890 --> 00:28:45.470
be long. My thought on long shows has always

00:28:45.470 --> 00:28:47.789
been, oh, I can pause it if I need to and come

00:28:47.789 --> 00:28:50.690
back to it. And I've done that on long and short

00:28:50.690 --> 00:28:54.230
shows. So I got to work that question in here

00:28:54.230 --> 00:28:59.569
somehow at some point. But it's just, it's one

00:28:59.569 --> 00:29:04.589
of those things where it was a time consumer.

00:29:04.769 --> 00:29:06.670
Like for me, when I'm listening to podcasts.

00:29:07.710 --> 00:29:12.109
I'm playing games, I'm writing, I'm doing whatever,

00:29:12.349 --> 00:29:15.329
that kind of thing. For me on the editing side,

00:29:15.529 --> 00:29:23.329
I'm a glutton. Because if we record, let's say,

00:29:23.569 --> 00:29:25.990
okay, so the next episode of The Pull Bag is

00:29:25.990 --> 00:29:27.890
going to be episode 380, where you and I are

00:29:27.890 --> 00:29:31.529
going to take a look at Transformers Galaxies

00:29:31.529 --> 00:29:34.680
issues number one through four. which is the

00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:40.640
Constructicons Rising arc. If I was editing that

00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:46.200
episode, it would probably take me, let's say

00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.440
we go 45, 50 minutes. It'd probably take me an

00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.940
hour and 50 minutes to edit it because I would

00:29:51.940 --> 00:29:55.720
throw in so many little clips of Transformers.

00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.200
I would try to find clips of each of the Constructicon

00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.809
characters from the cartoon show. to throw in

00:30:02.809 --> 00:30:07.349
somewhere throughout the show. I remember one

00:30:07.349 --> 00:30:13.289
of the gem episodes was a countdown of our favorite

00:30:13.289 --> 00:30:17.029
gem songs from the cartoon series, you know,

00:30:17.029 --> 00:30:21.309
from the eighties. And that took me, it ended

00:30:21.309 --> 00:30:23.789
up being, I think an hour and a half or two hours.

00:30:23.849 --> 00:30:27.569
It took me three days to edit that thing because

00:30:27.569 --> 00:30:30.250
there was so much intricacies of putting in.

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.140
the music clips and making sure they fade in

00:30:33.140 --> 00:30:36.460
and out properly and making sure all the audio

00:30:36.460 --> 00:30:39.460
was leveled, making sure everybody sounded good

00:30:39.460 --> 00:30:43.460
and everything else. When we were doing countdowns

00:30:43.460 --> 00:30:47.140
and I was editing those at times, depending on

00:30:47.140 --> 00:30:49.039
how long the countdowns were, like you said,

00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.339
double or triple the edit time. But I'm okay

00:30:53.339 --> 00:30:55.740
with taking that much time in the editing because

00:30:55.740 --> 00:31:00.929
I know I'm going through every single. second

00:31:00.929 --> 00:31:04.549
of that audio. I'm not skipping. Basically, the

00:31:04.549 --> 00:31:06.390
reason why half the time I don't listen to our

00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:09.049
content once we record it, if I'm on the episode,

00:31:09.250 --> 00:31:12.390
is because I was there. I recorded the episode.

00:31:12.430 --> 00:31:15.869
I most likely edited, not right now, but in general,

00:31:15.970 --> 00:31:18.769
edited the episode, and when I edit the episode

00:31:18.769 --> 00:31:21.230
is when I listen to it. So I've already heard

00:31:21.230 --> 00:31:23.349
it by the time we've gotten to the point of publishing

00:31:23.349 --> 00:31:26.569
on the website and all the podcatching platforms

00:31:26.569 --> 00:31:31.839
and everything else. And plus, I hate the sound

00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.200
of my own voice. So there's that. I can listen

00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:40.859
to myself once. So, yeah. Did you have anything

00:31:40.859 --> 00:31:42.940
else you want to bring up? Any other questions

00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:45.460
you want to preview for people before I kind

00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:47.839
of give people what this is going to be and then

00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:49.960
tease what we're going to do for the next episode?

00:31:51.619 --> 00:31:54.039
If you've ever done any interviews with famous

00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:58.539
people, which was your favorite? That's probably

00:31:58.539 --> 00:32:01.940
like asking you. Which is your favorite, Ian

00:32:01.940 --> 00:32:06.559
or Nolan? Because for me, the... It depends.

00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:10.680
Well, I'm not saying as far as my kids, but as

00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:18.460
far as interviews. Yeah. For me, I've mostly...

00:32:18.460 --> 00:32:22.160
I thank everybody who has ever taken the time

00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.910
to talk to us. There have been maybe one or two

00:32:25.910 --> 00:32:29.630
where it's been like, oh, that didn't go as well

00:32:29.630 --> 00:32:34.289
as I thought it would. It's happened a couple

00:32:34.289 --> 00:32:38.829
of times. But overall, some of my favorite interviews,

00:32:39.170 --> 00:32:42.390
and I actually wish I could find the second one

00:32:42.390 --> 00:32:46.730
of this, but some of my favorite interviews were

00:32:46.730 --> 00:32:50.710
David Kaye. Every time I've talked to him, I've

00:32:50.710 --> 00:32:55.420
enjoyed that. Ian James Corlett. for me. David

00:32:55.420 --> 00:32:58.299
Soboloff, Rob Paulson, I wish I could find that

00:32:58.299 --> 00:33:03.140
second file. Oh no, that's right, we're still

00:33:03.140 --> 00:33:08.839
missing that. Yeah, I have three minutes. Lauren

00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:12.819
Lester was great, John Delancey, I enjoyed how

00:33:12.819 --> 00:33:17.880
it turned out. Kevin Conroy, by far one of my

00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:28.410
favorites. Pat Fraley, And Neil Ross. Awesome.

00:33:28.470 --> 00:33:30.069
Those were some of my favorite interviews that

00:33:30.069 --> 00:33:33.930
I've been a part of. Now, it's a little bit different

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if you consider writers, producers. Because Tom

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Ruger was spectacular to talk with. Oh, yes.

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I remember his name right now. It's blanking.

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I shouldn't be forgetting this, but, um, uh,

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crap. I can't remember. Uh, Bob's cure. Oh yeah.

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Bob's cure. Yep. Yep. That was awesome. That

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was one of those interviews that apparently we

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didn't, and not throwing, like we sent it to

00:34:12.090 --> 00:34:14.389
him and he's like, can I fix a few things on

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this? That was the first time that ever happened

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to us. I'm telling somebody about that today.

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And, funny enough because I was telling him about

00:34:22.139 --> 00:34:23.500
a few of the interviews I've done because I was

00:34:23.500 --> 00:34:25.039
like oh yeah I've talked to John Delancey before

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like I met him in person then I interviewed him

00:34:27.179 --> 00:34:28.860
later I says and then there's a voice actor that

00:34:28.860 --> 00:34:31.980
I really like that's going to be at a audio drama

00:34:31.980 --> 00:34:39.280
for you know like audio drama podcasts and radio

00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.960
shows convention in October and I was trying

00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.320
something terrible to go because the headliner

00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.769
is David Kaye oh And I'm like, I need to go.

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I need to go. I need to go. Like, I have his

00:34:52.230 --> 00:34:55.010
autograph because I had him send it to me, but

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I want to meet. Yeah, you want to meet the man.

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Because I've met Frank. Well, I've met Frank

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Welker. I got a picture with him. It was very

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brief, but I've also met Beast Wars, Beast Wars,

00:35:11.130 --> 00:35:17.460
Beast Wars. Gary Chuck. No. Ian. Oh, Scott McNeil.

00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.099
Scott McNeil. I've met him in person, talked

00:35:19.099 --> 00:35:21.820
to him for 10 minutes. Like, super, super nice

00:35:21.820 --> 00:35:24.239
actor. I would love nothing more than to talk

00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:25.980
to him again and meet him again because he just

00:35:25.980 --> 00:35:29.179
takes the time with everybody. Yeah. To the point

00:35:29.179 --> 00:35:33.900
that his line cut into the panel. And he actually

00:35:33.900 --> 00:35:35.739
had people bring him food so that he didn't have

00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:40.159
to leave his fans. That's awesome. He stayed

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at his booth and he signed everything that everybody

00:35:42.500 --> 00:35:45.230
brought to him. and that's very cool and took

00:35:45.230 --> 00:35:47.170
pictures with him and then you know if you were

00:35:47.170 --> 00:35:48.889
like i can do a voice he's like all right bring

00:35:48.889 --> 00:35:52.769
it on man like just like he was super cool about

00:35:52.769 --> 00:35:57.650
it so um yeah definite class act um but yeah

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i i any of the beast wars actors if i had a chance

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to meet any of them i i would be so down very

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cool very cool for me it's i love them all There

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are some that I've, I don't know, I just feel

00:36:16.489 --> 00:36:20.449
like the experience, going back and trying to

00:36:20.449 --> 00:36:22.349
listen to it, I'd be like, what the heck was

00:36:22.349 --> 00:36:26.349
I thinking at that point in time? I've already

00:36:26.349 --> 00:36:28.590
told the Maurice Lamar story, I think, on here

00:36:28.590 --> 00:36:33.190
about how we kind of broke the news that he was

00:36:33.190 --> 00:36:35.590
going to be voicing Mr. Freeze in Batman Arkham

00:36:35.590 --> 00:36:39.409
City, and we got the interview up before. Anything

00:36:39.409 --> 00:36:42.550
else? And then some unknown website picked up

00:36:42.550 --> 00:36:46.309
the news and then IGN picked it up. And my thought

00:36:46.309 --> 00:36:49.710
was, oh, crap, Maurice LaMarche is going to kick

00:36:49.710 --> 00:36:53.469
my butt. Luckily, he did not. Hopefully we can

00:36:53.469 --> 00:36:57.789
have him back at some point. Kevin Conroy, I

00:36:57.789 --> 00:37:00.429
just I posted the Kevin Conroy interview on my

00:37:00.429 --> 00:37:03.650
Facebook a couple weeks ago, maybe a month ago,

00:37:03.789 --> 00:37:06.210
and basically said out of all the interviews

00:37:06.210 --> 00:37:09.699
I've heard with Kevin Conroy. Not because we

00:37:09.699 --> 00:37:12.440
did it, but because of the answers he gave us

00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:14.980
in this interview. This is my favorite interview

00:37:14.980 --> 00:37:19.079
that he has ever done. Because I just feel like

00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:24.900
we asked him questions that allowed him... I

00:37:24.900 --> 00:37:28.760
know he's told his September 11th story all the

00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.900
time. Our version of it is my favorite because

00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:36.809
of... He's like, oh, can I? curse or can i swear

00:37:36.809 --> 00:37:39.210
i'm like we're like yeah sure go for it we don't

00:37:39.210 --> 00:37:41.550
care tell the story how it's meant to be told

00:37:41.550 --> 00:37:46.590
very cool very cool so podcast approach like

00:37:46.590 --> 00:37:49.150
i said i have a whole slew of podcasting friends

00:37:49.150 --> 00:37:51.150
that at some point will come on the show and

00:37:51.150 --> 00:37:55.849
we will ask them these 25 26 27 questions however

00:37:55.849 --> 00:37:58.590
many there end up being right now it's at 25

00:37:58.590 --> 00:38:00.510
but i have to put one in there about something

00:38:00.510 --> 00:38:04.389
else anyway And we'll get other people's stories

00:38:04.389 --> 00:38:07.050
and how they get into it and how they listen

00:38:07.050 --> 00:38:10.269
and what they're listening to and what they're

00:38:10.269 --> 00:38:12.449
currently producing and where people can find

00:38:12.449 --> 00:38:15.230
their shows and their opinions on podcasting

00:38:15.230 --> 00:38:19.070
in general. So that's what's going to be happening

00:38:19.070 --> 00:38:22.530
with this segment in the future. Coming up next

00:38:22.530 --> 00:38:25.909
time here inside Studio 2009, we are going to

00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:28.349
have an excellent adventure of a bogus journey.

00:38:29.980 --> 00:38:34.119
That's right. For the first time ever, I'm going

00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.900
to watch both Bill and Ted 1 and 2 because I've

00:38:36.900 --> 00:38:39.500
never done it before. I've seen bits and pieces

00:38:39.500 --> 00:38:42.320
of the films, but I've never actually seen either

00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:48.079
one of them all the way through. Yes, and you

00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:53.300
will like the movies. Let's hope so. They're

00:38:53.300 --> 00:38:56.619
actually pretty good. Very 80s. Yeah, very 80s.

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Anything else you want to say before I hit the

00:39:00.030 --> 00:39:04.010
closing notes? No, I think that's it. All right.

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