STUDIO 2009

Space Jam at 25: The Original Review

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About this Episode

TFG1Mike and Jesse Ras revisit the 1996 classic Space Jam on its 25th anniversary, breaking down what holds up, what doesn't, and what makes it such a perfect snapshot of 90s culture. They discuss the live-action/animation blend, the voice acting, specific scenes and characters, how pandemic-era events have changed the viewing experience, and why the original website getting overwritten by the new film's marketing is unforgivable. They also preview the upcoming Space Jam: A New Legacy trailer and what they're hoping for (and worried about) in the sequel.

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Hello and welcome back to our studio. You are

now inside Studio 2009. I am of course, GFU Mike.

Steve Megatron is somewhere in the server -verse.

I don't know where he is. Joining me is long

time friend, multiple year, five, six years.

I mean, you've done it for all your life, but

Oh, radio? I'm 10. We're like 10 plus. Oh, wow.

There you go. You're a decade old in radio. There

you go. As you can hear, it is Mr. Jesse Raz.

Hello, sir. Hey, Mike. How's it going? It's going.

Sometimes I wish it would stop. And we are here

to celebrate. 25 years of Space Jam. And what

better way to celebrate 25 years of Space Jam

than to crap on it with a new movie? Basketball

campus next weekend. You got amazing potential

on the court, and I can help you get there. It's

not what I want, Dad. You never let me do what

I want to do. You never let me just do me. What

up? Wrong floor. Bet Will Smith ain't got a deal

with this. Dad! Don! What in the Matrix hell?

Welcome, King James. I am the king of this domain.

This is the server What'd you do to my son? Where's

Dom? The only way you're getting your son back

is if you and I play a little basketball Pete

send this clown to the rejects What is this?

I'm a cartoon? What's up doc? I need to assemble

an elite team to help get my son back. I know

what you're looking for. A dream team. Sam, shoot

the ball! Let's try that again, shall we? King

James. this game. Let's end this. And get our

son back. Yikes. Classic. Why is War Machine

the villain? We'll talk about that way later.

Okay. But yes, 25 years, Space Jam, the original

movie, obviously not the first time live action

and animation have combined. Obviously, there

was Two -Frame Roger Rabbit in 1980. And a long,

long, long time ago, back when Cartoon's first

started, there were several shorts where live

-action and animation would combine. I think

the one I remember most is, you ought to be in

pictures. It's the one where Daffy gets his porky

to quit Schlesinger Studios and go to the Hollywood

Studios and see Leon Schlesinger. So... live

action combination and around for decades. But

I got to say that who frame Roger Rabbit and

space jam are probably two of the best examples

of it being done. Well, I like Looney Tunes back

in action, but it was a little too silly. Well,

it was, it was kind of, it was kind of like,

okay, so we did Space Jam and it was a Looney

Tunes movie. So let's do another one with live

actors. And the problem with, and Bob Hoskins

did a wonderful job in Who Framed Roger Robert,

but the problem with animation and live action,

you have to have an actor who can work with a

Basically a sock puppet or just nothing there

and now that's pretty common with CG and all

that stuff But back then it those actors were

few and far between and to really sell it. It's

not easy. No, no, I Do think though that Steve

Martin didn't sell it back in action because

he was way over the top Steve Martin sells everything

he does and so yeah, that's that's a no -brainer,

but that whole movie was just It was kind of

a nothing like it was well and in reality and

we can get into this with space jam, but like

space jam kind of either heralded or upped it

to the next level the the fandom of Looney Tunes

in the 90s that sort of resurgence of them as

like a pop culture thing Yeah, what brothers

was trying to keep it going and by the time that

came out that was already That fad had faded

a little bit. Yeah So with a budget of $80 million,

Space Jam came out November 15th, 1996 with a

running time of 88 minutes. It made in total

worldwide $250 .2 million. Yeah. It is impressive.

It was written by Leo Benavuti, Steve Rudnick,

Timothy Harris, and Herschel Wingard, directed

by Joe Pitca, who Joe Pitca only had ever two

films. Oh yeah, what was the other one? The other

one was... I wish I knew that right off the top

of my head. You can't throw that out there and

not have it. Yeah, I know. Uh, the other one

was let it ride. Wow. This was a 1989 Richard

Dreyfuss, Robbie Coltrane, David Johnson, Jennifer

Tilly, and Terry Gar. Let it ride is a 1989 American

comedy film. Oh boy. So he did comedy and basketball

with cartoons. Oh, before, before that he was

obviously amused. Not obviously, but. He was

a music video Director he done. He had done several

things with Michael not Michael was it Mike?

Yeah, Michael Jackson and and others The writer

of this by the way, I don't know if you I don't

know if you notice this also writer on the Santa

Claus and the horrible Santa Claus three Hey,

hey, you leave the Santa Claus is alone. Thank

God. They didn't do a fourth one So space jam

What do you what history do you have with this

film? Did you see it in theaters? You're watching

it on VHS or whatever I can't remember if I saw

it in theaters or not because it was it was a

It was a toss -up as to whether you know, my

parents would bring us to the movie theater or

not. I do know for a fact, we owned this thing

on VHS because we bought the whatever special

version came with the collector's coin. And I

think for years. And I mean, if I looked through

my stuff now, I'd probably be able to find it.

But like, I remember it was tucked in the sleeve

of the little clam shell. Yeah. Oh yeah. It got

watched a lot in my house. Backwood clamshell

cases were a thing My parents probably still

have it at their house somewhere That's awesome

for me I want to say I I Want to say I saw it

in theaters, but I honestly do not remember All

as I remember in 1996 is watching this and playing

NBA Jam at the same time. So were you, I guess

this is a follow up question along that. Were

you really into basketball? Cause like in the

nineties with Michael Jordan, like this whole

thing is tied into that obsession we had developed

with the NBA. Were you big into that? Oh, well

see. When you're born and bred in Boston, Massachusetts,

you have, you know, the love affair with sports

and it has to do with the Boston teams, obviously.

I was always bird over Jordan. Of course. Yeah.

Of course. But I liked Michael. I thought he

was a cool player. I liked watching the Bulls

anytime they weren't playing the Celtics. Yeah.

Same thing with Magic and the Lakers. As long

as those teams weren't playing my team, I didn't

care. You know, whatever. Like, here's how powerful

that was in that era. I am like the one Hoosier

born that didn't like basketball. I still don't.

I was never an athletic kid and I still don't

follow it, but I still knew every single basketball.

Well, all but one basketball player in this,

in this movie. Um, I had, I had a Michael Jordan

poster. Cause like when you're born, when you're

a kid growing up in the nineties, you were issued

a Michael Jordan poster. That was just You had

to have it. It wasn't whether you liked him or

not. It was like, well, here's your standard

childhood Michael Jordan poster. Go ahead and

hang that up somewhere, whether you like him

or not. It's the way it worked. Yeah, I didn't

I I don't remember having I remember having a

Chicago Bulls t -shirt There's a picture of me

as a kid somewhere in a Chicago Bulls t -shirt.

I do not remember having a Jordan poster I remember

wanting the shoes in the 90s, but I wasn't gonna

go kill somebody over a pair of shoes well and

the other thing to Were you into the loony tunes?

Not necessarily as the cartoon. Cause I did watch

the cartoon, but it was like a cultural phenomenon.

Like you had hardcore rappers. You had adults

wearing, uh, t -shirts of like Bugs Bunny and

Taz in like thug gear. Were you, were you ever

into that? I wasn't, I wasn't. At the time that

this came out, I was 16 and I was in the middle

of being in state's custody in Kentucky at the

time. So life was a little rough, let's say.

So you're going to give me a sob story now? No,

no, no. You already know the sob story. I know,

I know. I'm just giving you. But it's one of

those things where I don't remember, like honestly

outside of. UK, which UK is the superior basketball

team out of the three of them outside of UK stuff.

I remember wearing a lot of cartoon stuff that

was UK, you know, basketball stuff or unless

it was like Transformers or like I don't remember

wearing Looney Tunes stuff. I might have had

a Looney Tunes at maybe. But the other thing

that I remember are the merchandise tie in. So

like McDonald's, they had like the stuff. I had

all of those things for ever. Like I said, I

might have a couple of them lying around. Actually,

I know I have at least one and I probably give

to my kid if he would watch the movie. That's

which we can get into here in a little bit, but

yeah. So when was the last time we saw this movie?

For me, it was when we covered it on Tooncast

and MWIRE back in 2009. So it's been about 12

years since I've seen the original Space Jam.

It's probably only a couple of years for me because

I decided there was one time I was like, I was

like, I'm going to sit down with my, uh, he was

probably four at the time, my four year old.

I'm like, we're going to, we're going to watch

Space Jam. Yeah. He did not stay into it. So

Uh, he's five now. I want to, I want to try a

rewatch now that he's got a little bit more of

an attention span, but so I sat down and watched

it while he ignored it. And honestly, I think

that's probably what it's going to be for most

parents that try to show their kid this. I don't

think a lot of parents are going to be showing

their kids the first film. I don't think that's

bad parenting. Okay. Well, you know, I'm a divorced

father of nuns. So there you go. Yeah, that's

bad Just like you said your kid didn't even pay

attention to granities only four years old Well,

you know the age range and you know, it's one

of those So the thing about this film is and

again as a non basketball player, I still enjoyed

it Challenge of this film and we can get into

this a little bit later if you want but one of

the challenges that this film has is Other than

Michael Jordan, you know, a lot of these players

don't necessarily have a legacy that is on the

radar of kids in that, like 10 to 12 range. I

mean, I know Charles Barkley still around. He's

commentating, you know, uh, Michael Jordan, obviously,

uh, through his legacy through shoes, but like

Muggsy Bogues, you know, is that, is that someone

that's going to stand out? Uh, Patrick Ewing.

uh larry johnson you understand so like those

those people not having a significance kind of

makes it hard for a new generation to jump in

on this right from the get -go right and you

know it surprises me and we'll talk about this

later when we talk about this new sequel that

they've got coming out I looked at the NBA player

list that's in the sequel and I'm like, I don't

recognize any of these names because I have not

been watching basketball in the longest time.

I still root for the Celtics and I'll still,

Hey, the Celtics won. Yay. Whatever. But I know

nobody. And I, and I look at the list of players

that are in this movie that are in the first

film. Danny Ainge, Steve Kerr, Alonzo Mourning.

Already, I can tell you, former boss of Celtic

turned Phoenix Sun. Steve Kerr was on the Bulls.

Alonzo Mourning was on the Hornets with, with,

um, Grandmama. Uh, Horace Grant was on the Bulls,

AC Green, Charles Oakley, Luke Longley. Like

I recognize a lot of these names from that time

because I was watching basketball at that time.

Well, I mean, you got to think too. And again,

we probably need to stray away from this because

we're going to talk about it later. But again,

you got to look at your target audience of that

film, the new version. Yeah, we'll get into it

there. But after watching it, I was like, you

know what? At that trailer, I was like, you know

what? Maybe I'm not the intended audience for

this. Speaking of the trailer, I watched the

movie and I, in order to get the audio that I'll

end up putting in here, I actually recorded the

audio from the film and I spent the hour and

24 minutes watching the movie and then another

hour and 24 minutes ripping out 22 different

clips from this film. Nice! Yeah. I don't know

if all 22 are gonna make it into this podcast,

but... What's going on here? Why, Michael, I

thought you'd never ask. You see, these aliens

come from outer space and they wanna make us

slaves in their theme park. Eh, what do we care?

They're little, so we challenge them to a basketball

game. But then they show up and they ain't so

little. They're huge! We need to beat these guys,

cause they're talking about slavery! They're

gonna make us do stand -up comedy, the same jokes

every night for all eternity! We're gonna be

locked up like wild animals and then trotted

out to perform for a bunch of low -brow, bug

-eyed, fat -headed, humor -challenged aliens!

Eh, what I'm trying to say is... We need your

help! They're gonna baseball play now. Right.

And I'm a Shakespearean actor. There's a lot

of good moments in that so many good moments

But it's one of those things where this is a

movie to me that if I'm watching it I enjoy it

if I'm watching for background It's like oh,

hey, I need to stop and make sure I have that

line recorded as audio or whatever And it's one

of those things where It just brought me back

to the nineties. That's the feeling that I had

with it. Yeah. It is a great snapshot of the

nineties because again, it kind of encapsulates

that huge obsession, love affair that, that we

had with the NBA, you know, these, these stars

of the, you know, the, the whole like legacy

of, uh, Michael Jordan. I mean, it, it goes back

to, you know, Michael Jordan quitting basketball

to go play baseball and then coming back to basketball.

You know, I mean, I mean that, that was, that

was such a huge turning point and it's all encapsulated

in this movie. And then of course you have the,

the Warner Brothers characters in there and,

and that, that as well. So, I mean, it's, it's

a lot of fun and there are a lot of really good

moments in the film as well. Can you imagine

If we had, and I, and I've said this to people

before and I really want to try to create this

story. If we had social media starting in either

1975 or 1980. So start at 90, start the year

of my birth going forward. in time with social

media back then, can you imagine what kind of

social media hell it would have been for him

to retire the way he did? Because it was covered

on TV and newspapers, but I mean, it wasn't like

it was a headline, but it wasn't as blown up

as some things get nowadays with social media.

Oh, oh, I'm, I'm going to stop you there. I think

you're wrong. I think his retirement was, I mean,

it was up there as far as like news coverage.

I mean, it was on, again, Michael Jordan sort

of transcend. He was one of those original athletes

that transcended the whole, I'm just an athlete,

like, and he made himself into a brand. So his

retirement, that was everywhere through pop culture,

you know? And then when he went and played baseball,

Again, that was another like, Oh my God. So he,

I don't know. I think, I think if you go back

and look up all the places that was covered in,

I think that was covered as much or probably

maybe even a little bit more than some of the

crazy, stupid pop culture stuff that's, that's

covered now. No, but what I'm saying is it would

have been even more than what it was. Yes. It

was a lot. All these you know gate things nowadays

and everything else and whatever it's like, yeah

Social media is is taxing at times. Yeah, you're

not wrong Before catching up with this film.

What do you remember most about it? There are

several things that I remember most about it

and like every time I watch it I have to go and

zero in on one particular moment. Special underwear.

Oh, sorry. You think she's got enough toys? Speaking

of toys, you know what those mugs and t -shirts

and lunchboxes with our pitches on them? Yeah.

You will ever see any money from all that stuff?

Not a cent. We need it. It's a crying shame.

We got to get new agents. We're getting screwed.

The scene where they go in and they got to get

Bugs and Daffy got to get his shorts and his

shoes and all that stuff. That dog. Charles Barkley,

that dog that the computer effects on that are

so awful because that dog looks 30 foot tall.

either either the bugs and Daffy are like a foot

and a half tall or That dog is ginormous because

then when you see the dog later with the kids,

it looks like a normal -sized dog like it's It's

a weird like I don't know if they were trying

to do like a cartoon perspective of it But it's

awful and I remember even as a kid going the

heck is right and then when I found out that

that Oh, who was the, that, that dog wasn't even

voiced by a dog. It was voiced by, um, uh, it

wasn't Mel cause Mel is gone by now. It was,

um, Oh, and I'm, I feel bad. Cause I love, uh,

uh, it was Wes, um, uh, Frank Welker. That's

what Frank Walker is. Frank Welker. He's, he's

credited as voicing Charles the dog, which is

hilarious. And that's, I think when I figured

out that I was like, Oh, Voice acting is, is

a thing. Um, but yeah, that was one scene that

said then, then of course the iconic scene. And

again, not great effect, but it was perfect at

the time of Michael Jordan's 90 foot long arms.

Yeah. You know, and then, um, I don't know why

I enjoyed him for what he was. I thought he was

hilarious. I thought, you know, his part, but

a white night. Oh, Newman. I mean, he was the

slapstick human element, slapstick comedy. It

was great. Right. Yep. For me, I remember almost

everything about this movie. There's nothing

that I that I don't remember about it. Did you

know who Sean Bradley was? Because I did not

know who he was until I got curious and looked

it up the last time, because I have always wondered

who that last monster was. And I'm like, I don't

know who that guy is. Yeah, he was on the Sixers.

No, because I knew I knew all of them. And again,

I'm a non basketball fan. I'm like, I have no

idea who that tall, crazy white dude is. Yeah,

I know. I didn't. I guess I was like, that's

not Larry Bird because they didn't steal his

power. but he's got kind of that tall, dopey

kind of look like Larry Bird. Yeah, no. And Larry's

too old at that point. Yeah. And yeah, I, I had

no idea who, yeah, no, I do not know. Um, it's

like Dan Castellaneta playing a, playing a fan,

you know, Homer Simpson. Yeah. That was something

that stood out the, the last time I watched it

too. Cause, uh, you know, I'm super into voice

acting and suit and voice actors. So I've learned

a lot more about the behind the scenes part of

this than than I probably need to know What level

of a fan were we heading into the prep work for

this podcast I I've seen the movie in the last

12 years. I've seen it twice now in the last

12 years I love it. It's one of those movies

that will always stick with me as a film that

brought basketball, I don't want to say to the

forefront, but brought it to a lot more people

within the cartoons as well. Cause most people

by 1996 were either stuck on Animaniacs reruns

or pinky Elmira in the rain. That was a, that

was a huge resurgence for Warner Brothers Cartoon

period, not just the Looney Tunes. Cause Tiny

Tunes kind of brought a lot of that back. And

there were some other things in that. I mean,

I would say I mean, I'd, I'd, I'd hard, you know,

I'd say almost super fan because I routinely

cite this in the like list of sports movies.

I'm like, it's gotta be on the list, man. It's

fun. There's a little bit of suspense. I mean,

you know, I, so again, I know it's sacrilege

and I'm not a sports guy. So come at me all you

want, but I'd say it holds up as one of the better

sports movies. Kind of really does. I mean, it's

one of those things where it just does. So getting

into the film breakdown really quickly, we had

Billy West as Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd for most

scenes as, as Elmer. Dee Bradley Baker was Daffy

at Taz. Kenny DeVito was Swack Hammer. I'm like,

Oh my God, what's, what's. Which if you didn't

know that from watching the just watching this

stuff, you don't even need to have the the audio

on. Yeah, always. Yeah. Bob Bergen as Porky Tweety,

Marva the Martian, Barnyard Dog and Hubie and

Bertie. Now, Hubie and Bertie, they are the mice

that take over the the announcing. I always love

those characters and I wish they got more cartoons

than they did. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

Ryan. Ladies and gentlemen, the starting lineup

for the Toon Squad. Standing two foot... a scintillating

three foot two. The heart rob of the hoops, Lola

Bundy. That's power forward. The Quackster of

the court, Daphne Duck. Thank you. Thank you.

Very funny. Let's all laugh at the duck. And

that point guard. Standing three foot three,

four feet if you include the ears, coach captain

of the Toon Squad, Doctor of Delight, Bob Wadley!

And now, the player coach of the Toon Squad at

six foot six. Bill Farmer who is also goofy over

at Disney boy Sylvester. You have somebody Sam

and foghorn leghorn June for a was granny and

witch hazel rest in peace Yeah, some of these

people man are aren't with us anymore and it

sucks Well at June for a I mean she's voice acting

royalty She you know, she was granny pretty much

the entire run of that character. Oh, yeah She

was, uh, Natasha and she was Rocky and yeah,

or race. Lamar's voice, Pepe Laplue in this.

I love how Wikipedia describes them as a debonair

skunk. Yeah. Yeah, a lot made about him and cancel

culture. And I know he was in this movie, but

he was only in there as like a skunk. I don't

know that he pulled any of his normal like creepy

forcing himself. I think he was just in there

as a skunk for the most part. Yeah, he was in

there as himself as a skunk. And basically he

got two scenes, I want to say. Yeah. One scene

where he got you know, a basket and then another

scene that, Oh God, I don't even remember at

this point. And I just said, I don't remember.

One of the gimmick plays where, you know, in

gas masks, I think that, and then there was probably,

I think there was some, he had something in one

of the original practices. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

and then of course you can't leave out Kat Susie

who was Lola bunny, which yeah. Yeah. For some

of us who were going through puberty, we're really

like, Should I find her attractive because she's

a cartoon character and a rabbit like I don't

really know how I should feel about her right

now cuz yeah So since we're talking about Lola

Has anyone here ever played basketball I'd like

to try out for the team. Hey, my name is Lola

bunny Lola? Yes? Hello, my name is Bugs. You

want to play a little one -on -one, doll? Doll?

On the court, Bugs. Sure. Ready? The girl's got

some skills. Yes. Don't ever call me... doll.

Hey, nice play, Olivia. Very smooth. Eh, she's

obviously nuts about me. Obviously. I love Lola

in this, and this was her debut. They then brought

her into the Looney Tunes show, which was she

was voiced by Kristen Wiig in that. And that

was ran from 2011 to 2014. Oh, I missed that

one. You don't want to see this. Say I'm kind

of a purist when it comes to those. I'll I've

given the newest ones some going there. They're

funny, but I enjoy the originals too much. If

you like Lola in Space Jam, you do not want to

watch the Looney Tunes show version of Lola because

she is a complete psycho. Nice. Yeah, she was

one that they added in. And obviously they added

her in for marketing purposes and to appeal to

a female audience. But then they had no, like

she was there and then they didn't know what

to do with her afterwards. So like she appeared.

And then she just kind of disappeared because,

you know, writing for female characters, why

would you try to do that? Yeah, I mean, she had,

I mean, she has a lot of good scenes, though,

in the movie. Oh, she is great in this movie.

And she is a great foible for for that was, you

know, because Bugs Bunny is always the one he

gets the last laugh. And so to invite a female

character to get one over on him. was pretty

awesome. Like she's really good in this film

and she really good in that, in that role. But

you, as a comedy writer, then have to figure

out cause comedy is all about status. So you

have to figure out how to incorporate her routinely

in that. And that's takes time and effort, especially

with her being a female. So, you know, so I guess

I didn't see any of the other stuff, but she

was great in this and it would have been nice

if they'd continued it, but you know, Hey, why

Exactly. Alright, so highlights and lowlights

of the film. I honestly, and this isn't me with

rose -tinted glasses. This is like, again, I

haven't seen this in 12 years until I started

watching it to be rare for this. I just found

myself enjoying it. I don't really have too many

lowlights. Daffy wasn't... He was his normal

greedy kind of self and he had a lot of good

lines But there were points in the earlier Looney

Tunes shorts where at one point his personality

completely switched and he was completely self

-servant This he is but it's not over the top

Oh my. I didn't do that. Aw, anybody could do

that, Doc. Even you. Watch this. What? No sweat.

This is Looney Tone Land. Ten seconds to go.

Thanks for telling me. Doc yeah, I mean I see

the thing is if this is one of the first major

Projects with new voice actors, you know post

Mel. Oh, yeah I thought for the most part a lot

of them did not just with the great the vocalization,

but I thought they did a great job with Staying

true to their characters as well I thought definitely

that was a highlight of the film. I thought they

they did a good job with that I'm trying to think

of some Some low points that just kind of There

really aren't any I Can't like there isn't a

point where I wanted to turn this off there isn't

a point like yeah Do I want to go for slack hammer?

No, but we know from the onset that he's the

villain we want to actually root for the little

aliens the little stars characters because You

know what I know I'll tell you what I'll tell

you here's the low point of the of the film Michael's

family, man Michael's fit that that that whole

thing bugged me because looking back at it now

I'm like the only reason his kids were in and

and I use air quotes because those weren't really

his kids I always wonder I was like man Michael's

kids are in no those aren't his kids. That's

not his wife Which by the way, how, how disappointing

does that have to be? Hey dad. So I hear you're

playing yourself in a movie with bugs bunny.

Yeah. Can I play your son? I'm sorry. You're

not the right type. Well, I mean, that's his

kids. I don't blame Michael for that. That's

casting. That's the, that's like, if you're his

kids, like how disappointing is that? You know,

I'm not even good enough to play my own, my own

dad's kids in a, in a film, you know, that's

Hollywood, but it's gotta. It's same with the

same with the new one and LeBron. It's like,

it's like, Oh, okay. Well, that's fine. Um, but

no, I mean, they were not necessary in this entire

film and, and, and the acting quality, just that

whole, the whole bit with Michael kids. No, that

was not necessary at all. Did you know the only

reason why I know who his wife is in this movie

is Because she is Marcus's wife in the bad boys

films Teresa Randall, I love her as an actress,

but the only four places I know her from are

the bad boys trilogy and this movie. Yeah Yeah,

I just I didn't I didn't need any of that. I'm

like, all right, stop. I know that this is also

an attempt to really sweeten Michael's image.

And, you know, as a fan, blah, no, no, no, none

of that was necessary. That, that crap. I was

like, nah, nah, no, no, we can do without that.

I don't need, I don't need the little kids in

this film. Um, so there was that part. Um, I

mean, all in all the, some of the stuff that

does it really hold up and it does, cause I kind

of remember it. But the whole Charles Barkley

praying scene, you know, I won't even go out

with Madonna again. You know, a lot of those

stuff that are real topical, that stuff doesn't

really help hold up anymore as much. No, it doesn't.

I just laughed at that because I'm like, oh,

OK. And that scene, actually, those scenes actually

go faster than I thought they originally did.

When I watched it this time, it wasn't like like

they were trying to figure out what was wrong

with them or what was going on. Oh. But, but

how creepy though is it to watch that portion

of this movie and when they're doing the lockout

and all that stuff. Yeah. Having gone through

the pandemic. Yeah. I was like, Ooh, gas masks,

gas mask. No, no, no. You're not allowed in the

locker room. We don't know what's going on. I

was sitting there going, this is a lot less funny

now having lived through this. Exactly. Yeah.

A lot less funny now. It's like, man, I Another

thing COVID is ruined is not completely wrong,

but another, but it's, but it's like Space Jam

parts of Space Jam are not, are not as enjoyable

now because I'm like, yeah, that's really happened.

Nobody lost. Nobody lost their, uh, their powers

and we're given to aliens, but wow. And I'm trying

to remember, like, I know this obviously centered

around Michael's first retirement. It also centered

around the NBA strike. That's why they had that

scene. Well, yeah, I mean, again, like if you

know that watching the film, it adds something

to it. It doesn't, you can still watch it and

enjoy it, but like Charles Barkley's pop culture

references in there, you know, that, that's all

the, the Dennis Rodman thing. And again, if you,

it's funny, if it's funny on the face of it,

if you don't know about Dennis Rodman and that

insanity. Uh, but still a lot of it gets lost.

I mean, that's really honestly, the flaw in this

film is some of the snapshot references of the

NBA and some of the players at the time that

don't last like you thought they would. Yeah.

And plus, you know, some of the quotes do and

don't hold up and like how many NBA players currently

could I name? that have endorsement deals. None.

I could not name a single one yet. You have Wayne

Knight here, you know, lace up your Nikes, grab

your Wheaties. We'll grab a Big Mac on the way

to the, you know, all of that. And I love that

quote. I think that's a cool thing to show everything

that Michael was doing at the time. Well, we,

I mean, and we all knew it, you know, I mean,

that's like, but again, Michael Jordan was the

first, well, he might not have been the first,

but he was definitely the example on how to create

a brand, not just, you know, I'm going to be

this a brand, you know, Shaq did it, you know,

that's, um, that's the one, you know, looking

at this, I'm like, the only person that's missing

from this is Shaq. I'm kind of partial to purple

and gold myself. It goes better with my coloring,

huh? E -e -e -guys? A little alien says it's

their turn to e -e -e -use the course. Eh, sure.

Let the little pipsqueaks knock themselves out.

Too bad you can't practice getting taller, boys!

They even got the Lakers in here. They didn't

get any of the Lakers' players, but they got

the Lakers in here because Daffy is partial to

purple and gold. Yes. So funny. Yeah. But I mean,

I think, yeah, I think a lot of this movie really

holds up because at its core, it is a Looney

Tunes story that happens to involve basketball

where it misses 25 years later, our topical jokes

that were thrown in. Right. For the time, you

know, and then of course, you know, the, we don't

know, we don't know what this is. We don't know

what kind of sickness this is. That does color

a little bit different, you know, after 2020.

Yeah, it does. Especially, you know, with the

NBA bubble and all of that. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Favorite character moments. Some, somebody that

we haven't touched on in this film at all is

Bill Murray. I was saving him for the end because

isn't that Dan Aykroyd? Yeah, yeah But his his

appearance at the end when he comes in but just

his whole Insistence that he could be an NBA

player throughout that film. I mean it was it

was pure Bill Murray, but it was it was very

funny Yeah, I kind of wish he had a proton pack

on If they, you know, if they could have licensed

it, I'm sure, I'm sure they would have, they

would have tried. I'm sure they would have. Uh,

Wayne Knight digging the hole. I'm fixing a divot.

Oh, he's fixing a divot. Uh, like, you know,

I loved, I loved that kind of notion. Um, uh,

I loved when Daffy comes out and he goes, he's

like, I've got it. I've got a new team name,

the docs. And then bugs is what kind of Mickey

Mouse organization would name their team the

ducks? Uh -huh. You know, I mean there's a lot

of really good one -liners in there Yeah, because

wasn't I was 96. Oh I know I know I know the

first one came out in 92 I'm trying to remember

when the sequel came out was that 93 or 96 I

don't But they had, but, but what had happened,

they had named the, the Anaheim team. Like that

had, that had already been done. So whether or

not the second one had come out or not, that

was already in the, the, the public zeitgeist.

Second one was 94. Third one was 96. Yeah. So,

so yeah. So we were already on the third one

by the time, uh, by around the time this one

came out. So yeah, that was already, that was

already a huge thing in sports films. Yes, character

moments for me. Did you order original recipe

or extra crispy? Yeah, those are those are the

monsters as a whole like all of their brutal

tactics. I thought were really well done. Um,

this kind of, this kind of counts too, is kind

of a low point, but, um, Michael's acting is

atrocious in this film. I don't know that Michael

has ever gone on and done anything like else

other than some commercials or maybe a bit role,

but his acting is atrocious in this whole film.

Like even in parts where it's like, Just do what

you normally do, Michael. It is atrocious. Like

the whole pep talk scene in the locker room,

uh, bugs pulls out bugs, a secret or Michael

secret stuff is awful, awful, awful, awful. Great

speech and all doc. You had him riveted, but

didn't you forget something? But it's Michael

Jordan. See, that's the thing, though. OK, it's

Michael Jordan. It's Michael Jordan trying to

play a fictional version of himself mixed in

with what he really is. That's the big problem.

My one of the most iconic parts of this film,

though. And again, my Michael's acting is with

especially when he's with the Looney Tunes is

atrocious. And if you look, it looks like they

tried to limit the one on one scenes with him.

But. That scene right after they get him his

shorts and his shoes. Let's see if I remember

how to do this. And you hear in my head, anytime

I'm doing like a basket, anything, I'm like,

let's see if I remember how to do this. Like

always plays in my head. Yeah. Nope. Hey, it's

better than having our Kelly playing your head.

Let's, let's stop. Let's stop there. Hey, I'm

just saying Kelly jokes. Cause I'll go that route.

I'm just, Hey, we're an explicit podcast. I don't

care. Yeah, but I don't, I don't, yeah. I don't

need somebody to lead this like, man, it like

37 P jokes in that podcast. Yeah. No. And I mean,

honestly, I barely remember. I believe I can

fly. I remember that song was everywhere because

of this film. I know that, but I remember fly

like an Eagle more because seal is just better

than our Kelly. Well, there's an argument there,

but I, like I said, I remember that when he goes

in, he's like trying to, you know, shake the

rust off when he's playing, everyone's like,

wow, you know, it's like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That

was, that was a moment. That was a moment that

was right up there with the, uh, the stretch

arm and, um, Then you get the, um, you get the

monster, but yeah, they're fish in, you know,

so many, the, the best parts of, of, of that

film are in that final game with the mon stars.

Yeah. I mean, cause that's, that's a pure Looney

Tunes cartoon right there. Yep. I think my favorite

special effects. It's probably. It's not the

arm stretch I can tell you that It's the scene

in the beginning When he first lands and It's

after Daffy does his nanny duck turp thing it's

right when Michael says, but I'm a baseball player

Oh, sure. And I'm a Shakespearean actor. I love

how we're able to get bugs his shoulder on, on

Michael. Like I love that picture because you

can clearly tell there's like, he's reacting

to nobody. He's just looking with a blank stare

to what bugs is. And even though there's nothing

there for him, it's there for us. Yeah. Uh, I

gotta say a flat way night was good. How do you

do that? This is a little too loud. We can't

do anything Well, and like that's the thing about

this movie that really worked is We were at a

point where the effects Were good enough like

it's not like I'm it's still very cartoony, but

it fits in the vein and Who framed Roger Rabbit?

There were a couple in there that also worked

but it took like Ten times as long to do them

as it would have when space Jam was created.

Yeah Because again this movie was probably actually

made somewhere between late 94 and all of 95

so by 95 the Technology had advanced enough to

where a little bit better. Yeah. Yeah a little

bit more streamlined Yeah, flat Wayne. Yeah flat

Wayne night. That was good You know, I mean Again,

they're they're cheesy, but that movie it's supposed

to be cheese, you know, yeah All right pacing

of the movie I found myself fine with the pacing

of it there's a few scenes like we mentioned

before with the the other basketball players

trying to figure out what's wrong with them,

but Overall on this watch true. I didn't find

myself losing Interest in watching it. It's a

quick 88 minutes That like I said watching it

now. I'm like, yeah, there's there's some stuff

I would cut Probably like I said the kids I don't

think is really necessary in in anything You

know and maybe some of the the lockout stuff

But I think the interstitials with the players

trying to figure out what's wrong with them.

I think it's still funny It's funny enough that

it that it goes along at a quick pace and You

know the the game itself is actually not that

long and No, I mean so so yeah, I mean, you know,

I think it works. I think it works out pretty

well All right favorite characters main recurring

guest stars who are your favorites if you had

to pick I You know, I think Daffy does I like

Daffy a lot in this one Um, I think he's a good,

he's a good counterbalance because the problem

with bugs and Michael Jordan is there are two

high status characters that really aren't supposed

to lose. And even though bugs get stuffed a few

times by the monster stars, that's there that,

you know, they're the big bad. Um, you have Daffy

duck who can come in And he's still the, he's

the loser. He can be the loser that bugs and

Michael really can't. Yeah. Uh, it's like in

the, uh, when, when QB and Bertie are doing the

introductions. All right, fine. Let's all laugh

at the duck. Yeah. And I think D Bradley Baker

does a fantastic job with him. Uh, it's not spot

on. And not that, not that it's going to be,

it's not spot on to Mel blank, but it's, it's

really good. And I think he has a good idea on

that, on that character. And the sad part, it's

a little off tangent, but the sad part is, I

don't know if you knew this, but there were two

openings for this at the same time. So there

were two theaters. One had Michael Jordan and

all the celebrities, right? The other one was

for the voice actors. They couldn't even get

into, they got into the, like the overflow theater.

Oh, that's silly. Yeah. They're, I mean, arguably,

I mean, they are the stuff, you know, Billy West,

D Bradley Baker, uh, Danny Devito probably got

in the other one, but like Bob Bergen, Bill Farmer,

you know, these guys who arguably are bigger

stars in their body of work than anybody else

in this film, they had to go to a separate screening.

They weren't allowed into the main screening.

That's You know what? I'm just gonna let Phineas

Flynn take care of that. That's so 90s. I mean,

yeah, I mean, that's I mean, that's the way it

is. I mean, June for a cats who see more, you

know, these these actors, you know, they so they

kind of got shafted by that and But I think I

think Dee Bradley Baker's performance is Daffy

Duck. I thought it was great. I thought Daffy

was a good comedic relief in a very funny movie

and he's still stuck out. Um, as far as like

side characters, uh, I gotta give it to, um,

Wayne Brady and, uh, Bill Murray because I thought

they weren't interval parts, but again, Wayne

Brady or not Wayne Brady, Wayne Knight, Wayne

Knight was the human Daffy duck. Yeah, he was

totally the human Daffy duck in this film and

totally played that role very well. And then

the like my dark horse. Comedic character in

this, that it still surprises me. He was fine.

Larry Bird, Larry Bird at the exchange while

they're all golfing. It's still funny. It still

holds up. It's very dry. It's a little like Peyton

Manning esque in that you didn't, you know, now

we expect it. But when Peyton Manning was in

his heyday, like you didn't quite expect that

coming from him. Right. Yeah. Yeah for me characters

almost all of the looney tunes I like them all

I think they're great They each have their own

things. I actually I think my sleeper here is

which hazel during the The one scene where they're

all like right before halftime or something or

other other and he was open No, no, no, not that

one. No, not when he passes the ball to granny,

which Hazel it's right before they go into the

locker. Yes. Yeah. She does the, she does the

clear on one of the other Looney Tunes. She's

I was like, Oh, they got which Hazel in there.

That's so cool. Cause again, I think it's hilarious

that the dog's name is Charles because yeah,

Jordan and Barclay had a rivalry going. I love,

because it had been a few years since I'd seen

him play, but this is just a silly Boston thing,

even though he's on Sons of Time. Seeing Danny

Ainge play and now having him be whatever he

is with the Celtics organizations today, it's

like, oh, that's so cool. Cool. All right. How

did the film hold up? Did the film keep our interest

throughout? So I think. Cause I've, you know,

it's, I watched it about a year ago. I, I, it

held up to me. Um, and I try and I tried to think

about before we, before we got on here today,

I tried to think about, does it hold up because

of nostalgia or does it hold up? And I, for me

personally, as someone who grew up with it, I

think it does. Um, it does hold up somewhat again,

though, after 2020, I think there are some parts

that are a little like. Yeah, that's not, that's

not that funny anymore. Having gone through it.

Um, and then there are some pop culture references

if you don't, if you didn't live it, that you're

going to go over your head. Uh, but I think those

aside, I do think it could be accessible to,

to another generation. Yeah. I mean, for me,

When I when you know this question did the film

keep your interests are out? As long as I'm not

pausing it and wanting to go do other things

and whatever else like I said earlier in the

show When I watch this I was sitting here at

my computer so I could record the audio So I

just hit record on my on my audacity program

And just put the movie on full screen and just

that here and watched it It was fun to just watch

it again because I haven't seen it 12 years before

now Oh boy, there's a question on here. You're

going to scoff at. Are we itching to watch the

next film now? Oh, okay. We're going to get in

this. All right. Okay. I, okay. So before I had

seen that trailer, I had come to terms and I

even tweeted about this. I'd come to terms that

there was going to be a new one. Now I'd heard

this and that, but I was like, okay, all right.

Maybe it will they'll do it and they'll Maybe

try to make up for some of the flaws of the first

one or you know, whatever a new generation or

maybe it's a sequel You know, whatever see what

they're doing. I Watch the trailer Okay, there's

a lot here. Yeah, there is there is a lot like

it you know Space Jam was a Looney Tunes film.

Yeah, this is a Warner Brothers animation amalgamated.

Yeah Which is a lot and I had some problem that

some of the problems that I had watching this

trailer for the new space jam I had with the

ready player one movie If I've never seen that

and so I don't know anything about it. I was

not a fan of the film the book I enjoyed It's

not a perfect book, but I enjoyed it But there's

a lot of stuff done for a fan service But I don't

know that it really is necessary or plays into

anything like They had the gang of rapists from

a clockwork orange in there Why on earth are?

Those in there with a you know for a kids movie.

Yeah, exactly and and it's just like it's a very

It's a very odd Thing and like are you are you

trying to say that the first film didn't happen?

Or did this happen again? Or like, I feel like

there were a lot of opportunities with this film.

And again, we've only got one trailer, but based

on this trailer, that there might've been a lot

of opportunities to tie the other one in somehow,

or at least reference it. So you can be like,

okay, it's okay to enjoy this one. And this one's

different. You know what I'm saying? Like I just.

Yeah, this is a space jam single has been languishing

for 25 years, folks. Originally, this was supposed

to be back in the 90s. Pitca was going to return

to direct. They were going to get Spike Brandt

and Tony Cervone to do the animation supervision.

Obviously that fell through because Michael would

not return. several possible spinoffs focusing

on other athletes, including Jeff Gordon, Tiger

Woods, and Tony Hawk. Okay, I like Jeff Gordon.

I like Tony Hawk and that's fine. But if you're

going to do a space jam movie, you can't have

anything. You can have other sports in there,

but basketball kind of is the space jam legacy.

Well, so There they were in danger of basically

making this into the airbud franchise. Yeah So

like I tweeted this at the time when I heard

about this He needed is, you know LeBron instead

of making a second space jam LeBron should have

gone back and remade Kazam and got it, right?

Oh Lord because film that does not hold up and

I'm being and and I have often been accused of

being very nostalgic and and very generous with

Space Jam I Tried to go back and watch Kazam

and I couldn't even make it through that monstrosity

It Shaq is not the worst part of that film, but

he's pretty dang close. Yeah So the sequel for

Space Jam basically falls around, it falls around

LeBron James and his son into, it's basically

Wreck -It Ralph with Warner Brothers. Kind of.

So LeBron's son gets kidnapped, like he's not

good at basketball. He doesn't want to be a basketball

player. Yeah. Which I did, you know, I will say

when I started watching that trailer, I was like,

you know what? I'm kind of relating to this a

little bit, you know, not that my dad was LeBron

James, but my dad was very athletic in high school

and college and everything and very into sports.

I was not, I was a chubby kid that did not like

sports because I was bad at it. It wasn't athletically

coordinated. So I did relate a little bit more

to that part of the film. Uh, but you know, do

we need, why do we need an animated LeBron? You

know, why do we, you know, it's why, so There's

a lot in that trailer that doesn't make sense

to me. Maybe when we get closer and we get another

one, uh, one question I had to, it was just announced

like this week or last week that Zendaya is voicing

Lola bunny, which you know, that's how that works.

Now folks is you get, you get a big name actor

and actress to voice things, which is another

problem I have, but shouldn't she have already

filmed her stuff? If we're putting trailers out,

like shouldn't that have already been done? Didn't

they even go back and redo the Lola design because

they thought it was on like Okay, they had to

go through and redo pretty much everybody because

this is more like 3d computer than hand, right?

Sort of style, which is I mean, which is fine.

Everybody kind of looks fine and and whatnot,

but it's just I Don't know. But I the one positive

I have of this though is of the new one is maybe

maybe I'm not The the intended audience for this

film. Yeah, which Okay, I can live with that

You know, I feel like there possibly would be

a way to Get both groups Yeah, yeah. Have you

looked at the casting for for for the new space

jam? Yes It's Jeff Bergman as Bugs, Sylvester

Foghorn and Fred Flintstone. Eric Bowser as Daffy.

Eric Bowser is fantastic. What's confusing is

they got Eric Bowser as Porky Pig and Bob Bergen.

So I'm wondering what happened there. I only

see him listed as Daffy and Marvin. I see Bob

listed as Porky and Tweedy. On IMDB, they got

them as Daffy, Foghorn, Elmer, Marvin and Martian,

and Porky the Pig. Then IMDB has it wrong because

I know for a fact that Bob is most likely doing

Porky and Tweety. But Bob is also listed as Porky

the Pig. That's what I'm saying. So I'm wondering

if maybe there are a couple pickups somewhere

that Bob wouldn't be able to do. I don't know.

I don't know. I'm just telling you what it's

up there. Because I too know that Bob is Porky.

He's one that is... Yeah. He got Mel blanks wife's

phone number out of the phone book. So, you know,

if anybody listening, that's a, uh, that's a

fantastic story. Go look that up. That story.

Uh, he's, he is, uh, I've met him. Uh, he's a

fantastically sweet individual and, uh, very

talented. So yes. And there's a lot of tunes

that aren't going to be in this, or at least

they weren't going to be initially Speedy Gonzalez

is one of them. Yeah, I get that. I mean, I,

I, I like those cartoons, but I totally get why.

I totally get that. You know, and I'm not going

to get into an argument about, well, you can't,

it is what it is, man. I mean, stereotypes were,

were, were around and they weren't, we just kind

of accepted them and you know, it is what it

is, but he wasn't really in the first one. No,

Speedy wasn't in the first one at all. Like they

were trying to get Pepe, they were trying to

get speedy and they have speedy now, apparently,

because really Lacey is, is going to be voicing

him. Okay. That's hilarious. Yeah. I, yeah. So

the music for this new film, I find this absolutely

hilarious because this is Warner brothers and

this is just crazy. According to this, in January

2020, Hans Zimmer was announced as the composer

for the film. By April of the same year, Chris

Bowers was announced to be working with Zimmer

as co -composers. However, in January of this

year, it was officially confirmed that Bowers

will receive sole credit. So they couldn't even

land Hans Zimmer on an official wow. Oh, boy.

When I look, you know, let, let, let's be honest,

the new space jam film, you know, that, yeah,

you're Hans Zimmer, you know, maybe you do it.

Maybe you don't, if you don't feel like doing

it, you don't, you know, it's not going to, it's

not going to make or break his career. Oh yeah.

I do see Gabriel Iglesias, the speedy guns. And

some of these, I'm interested in this new film,

but unless it shows up. Unless I can somehow,

you know, get another free trial to HBO max.

I'm probably not going to see it anytime soon.

I mean, we've got another year until it comes

out, right? I thought it was coming out this

year. Yeah. 2021. And when does it come out?

July 16th. Oh, okay. Then again, why are we just

announcing that Zendaya is going to, uh, probably,

I'll probably watch it. I'm just. So the thing

that the original Space Jam did well that I'm

afraid about with this one is they took the Looney

Tunes universe and they gave fan service to most

of the key characters and found ways to incorporate

a lot of the peripheral characters, you know,

like the two mice that you love, you know, let

them be announcers, you know, they're not huge

characters in the Looney Tunes universe, but

they had bit roles. Some of the, some of the,

the, the audience members, you're like the big,

uh, the big red monster that was in, you know,

a couple of those, you know, he's in there, the

bull. Um, so they found a way to give fan service

to some of those. This one is so crammed. With

so many warner brothers characters it's like

what's the point of having them in there if they're

not gonna get service. In there so i'm afraid

there's just gonna be so much in porn and for

nostalgia sake that. Nothing is gonna matter.

Yeah and again it reminds me and not that i find

ralph breaks the internet a bad film they did

it really well this space jam a new legacy just

is one of those things where it looks like that

like you said they're cramming everything into

the server from all of Warner Brothers properties

and how is the story other than the fact that

LeBron has to save his son. by playing a basketball

game. That's the other thing. I think this new

thing's got a little bit better. Like, in the

original film, oh, we want the Looney Tunes as

our, you know, moron mountain ride attraction

people, and then they want Jordan as that. At

least with this new movie, they're trying to

do a story with humans. I did like that, uh...

You know when the looney tunes disappear like

when they had to go do that They disappeared

off like I liked that concept that the looney

tunes are still just going through the motion

So when you watch the cartoons, they're doing

it like I that that notion Give it it did give

it some stakes You know whatnot so, you know,

I don't know like it's it's very easy for me

to gripe on this because it's not the same But

that again, that's the point. We now live in

a different world. We can't just, if they had

done the sequel 25 years ago, I wish, and maybe

it will be, maybe it will be, I wish it was something

that, you know, maybe it's not the monsters,

but maybe they heard about what the monsters

tried to do and then tried, you know, they somehow

tied it in so that it's sort of a continuation.

It's, you know, even if it's like bugs going,

Oh, not this again, you know, whatever. You know,

I think that would be kind of a nice way to mingle

the two. The one thing that is unforgivable though,

that I will say, one of the historical landmarks

of the internet was the original space jam website

that had been on the internet since 1996. Okay.

On star games, all that stuff. This piece of

shit. trailer came out, they overrode the damn

website. Now somebody has archived it. So it

still exists. But when you go to space jam .com,

that's not what you get. You get this trash.

Don't piss on what was before. Okay. Unforgivable.

I can't stop laughing. If you sound like me from

like seven years ago, I mean, it's just it's

one of those things like granted Okay, the original

Space Jam website was probably not driving a

whole lot of clicks No link on there or put a

link on the new website. Hey the original whatever

don't That just just erase it. Yeah, just now

you're just making anybody who was a fan of the

original movie mad Speaking of the original movie,

before we get the heck out of here, what would

you rate it zero to five? So there's a part of

me that wants to go to wants to give it a solid

five, but I can't do that because of some of

the things that we talked about. Some of the

stuff that doesn't quite hold up. So I'm going

to go with a four. I think it's really good.

Yeah. You know, it's still it's still enough

to hold your attention. The animation in it is

still good. Like watching it on a high def screen

is still really enjoyable. Yep. Um, you know,

there are certain problems, but I think you can

overlook them because you know, it's still a

kid's movie and it's Michael Jordan. You know,

he has significance even though he hasn't played

in how long. So yeah, I give it a four. Yeah,

I'm gonna run right there with you. I'm gonna

give it a four because instantly I'm like Like

like like we've already said with the with the

LA team players. It's like no there's some kind

of Germs in there whatever I'm staying home.

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folks, we are back. can face jam and new legacy

and music. Wasn't it you that I saw was like,

it's a complete travesty that they put the Quad

City DJ song in the trailer. No, but it did.

It did cross my mind. I mean, this here's the

thing. They're trying to get us, they're trying

to get the original fans of the movie to like

the new trailer. And if it didn't have Space

Jam song in it, I probably would be like, why

do they have friggin Kanye West doing some sort

of weird music in this trailer? I mean, again,

it's like I have. So I'll tie these two together

very quickly. But my problem so far with with

the new movie is similar to my problem with the

or one of my problems with the all female reboot

of the Ghostbusters. OK. I need to know right

off the bat. Is this separate universe or tied

together? Right. I just don't let it live in

ambiguity. Like I need to know, did the original

film happen in this universe universe or not?

And so it's like the fact that you don't automatically

necessarily know that makes it hard for me to

judge. It makes me, it's hard to set my expectations.

I guess is what I should say. So it's like, if

you are doing a sequel, let me know that this

is a sequel of some kind. If you are doing sort

of a spinoff, let me know. If this has nothing

to do with the original film, other than it being

Space Jam, let me know that. I can make my opinions

accordingly, but don't just, don't just wuss

out and say, you're not, and just, well, you

know, we'll see, no. Make a statement, stand

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