Interview with DJ Valentine on Podcast Approach

And now it's time for Studio 2009's podcast approach.

There's nothing wrong with your podcast player.

Do not attempt to adjust the volume. Hello and

welcome to Studio 2009. I am of course, DFU and

Mike. Joining me is, as always is Steve Megatron.

Hello, sir. Hello. And because this is episode

10, this is our very first podcast approach guest

appearance. You would have heard mine and Steve's

version of podcast approach in episode five of

the podcast. But we are here with the one, the

only, the not so simplistic reviewer, Mr. DJ

Valentine. Hello, sir. You guys how you guys

doing today always a pleasure recording with

you gents on top of that I owe Steve big time

for all the ridiculous Insane stuff. I've forced

him at gunpoint to do for our show. So thank

you I Think I've listened to 85 cuts of Steve

doing Kermit the Frog laughing to myself like

a madman in a coffee shop Or like Elmo Elmo or

Casey Kasem, I've heard them all multiple times

I gotta say though that that last that last one

was pretty good with all the different Muppets

and I love it so much Sesame Street I was I never

did I tell you how I came up came up with the

idea for that What Steve is thought we did a

sketch for our show doesn't plays agrees podcast

where we made Sesame Street mixed with Goodfellas

So we just made them all gangsters And I was

watching some documentary on lucky Luciano I

was like, you know what this this is very similar

to kind of the breakdown of the Sesame Street

gang, you know And I just kind of ran from there.

I was like damn it. I need a Kermit the Frog

I know a guy who do Kermit the Frog Yeah, it

was it was a lot of fun though to to sit there

and do that and um and also uh when i saw the

script and i'm like hey i can do an elmo too

when you said that i was like thank god because

i was gonna do elmo i was like my elmo is okay

but then i heard yours i was like okay perfect

that's one less thing i have to worry about thank

god because it was like 35 muppets on that sketch

that i had to find well and it's funny because

i used to do that voice for my kids when uh they

had this uh Elmo goes to the bathroom book and

I was like, okay, this this book is so boring

for me Like and I had to spice it up. I was like,

okay Elmo's gonna talk for the whole book cuz

I can't I'm like, I can't read this like and

not be deadpan with it Elmo goes to the bathroom

Elmo picks up the toilets. Let's read it just

like that. Like you're doing the news Or or reading

it like like Casey Kasem He lifted the toilet

seat and then he flushed everything down. I remember

for that sketch it was the we did it before the

Fox Disney merger or whatever and you're like

I get I read it two different ways one normal

and one were case a case of you pick which one

I'm like there's no way I'm not using your case

case Why would you give me the other one? What's

the purpose of? Yeah, that was a lot of fun,

too. So anytime you need me, I'm available. Oh,

thank you. Trust me, I'm going to hold you to

that. I'm going to hold you to that. So for podcast

approach, ladies and gentlemen, we have, well,

it's 27 now, it was 26, but we have 27 questions

that we will be asking guests from getting started

to listening to producing. All that good stuff

and getting started as podcasters. When did you

discover podcasts? And what was the first one

you listened to? When I discovered podcast, I

think it was Doug loves movies Was the first

one I listened to I think I watched or law watch

listen to that While I was in film school. I

think I was the first time I sat down listen

to a podcast because There was a lot of downtime.

I went to a full cell university, which is a

24 -hour School, so you'll have a class at 1

a .m. And then you'll have a class at 4 a .m.

Or something like that you could have your your

schedule fluctuates Varying semester so if I

had a lab at 4 a .m. And I had a class at 1 a

.m. The classes are usually two hours So at through

I had like an hour to kill I was like I got to

do something instead of going home I'm gonna

be sitting in the campus I got to do something

because at 3 a .m. there's no, there's nothing

open. I would just go to the lounge pop on a

podcast and just wait for the lab to start. And

I think Doug loves movies with Doug Benson was

the first one I listened to. Awesome. How long

after you started listening, did you want to

start your own podcast? Why? You know, it's funny.

I didn't. I didn't. I never. I did the idea for

us to have a podcast came from Matthew Stewart

one of my co -hosts on this implicit view podcast

because we were Right after I graduated I went

to school with one of my other co -hosts Justin

Polizzi and he wanted to make a website where

we do one word reviews of movies and we can expand

if we want to and Matt Thought hey, why don't

we just every month do a show kind of like us

talking because we always used to have conversations

And I was like, yeah, I don't know. It's podcasting.

I mean, we're in front of whatever. I'm not,

you know, the, the analytical. I mean, I can

get analytical, but I want it to be more fun

than that. And then we kind of brainstormed and

how it would be, but it was never my intention.

I was just going to write stuff for the, for

the website. And Matt kind of convinced us to

do it and we've not turned back since. That's

very cool. I feel like Matt should be here at

this point for these questions. What was your

plan in getting your podcast off the ground?

Oh, no, no. I mean, initially I was against it.

But once we did like the first episode, I was

hooked. I was like, oh, God, this is great because

it was essentially us conversations we were always

always having. But we were just recording it

and putting it out there and being humorous.

They are planning to get it off the ground. That

varied. I mean, initially we've always wanted

to Make it not a normal movie analytical podcast.

We always wanted to make it one Fun, we never

wanted to make it like, you know I want to say

boring. I just want to say dry would be the word

I'm looking for so we it's kind of escalated

from them, but we wanted to Get it out there

to as many people as possible but a lot of the

outlets of doing it was kind of, Hey, why don't

we put on YouTube? Hey, why don't we put on iTunes?

Why don't we do this? Why don't we do it? It's

always like a brainstorming session with the

three of us. We're kind of like, uh, three parts

of one mind when it comes to that show. Okay.

How sorry, which do you prefer audio or video

podcasting as, as a fan and as a producer, we

just started doing videos. podcasting for our

movie commentaries, Netflix parties. I'm not

a, I prefer audio because when I, as Steve knows,

when we do the sketches, our show kind of has

sketches on there. I like theater of the mind.

It gives me more creation. You know, when you

see in my ugly mug and we're talking, you know,

kind of like, okay, I'm just watching these guys

watch a movie. But if you can, when you're doing

the podcast, I can create whatever environment

I could have Casey case and talking to Kermit

for I can do whatever the hell I want when it's

just audience video I'm limited into what I can

actually do when it's a movie commentary We do

it for movie commentaries because it's just the

three of us sitting down watching a movie But

when it's to show itself, I would never want

to do this our podcast visually I'd always want

to do it audio wise Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm

way too ugly for video. I Just am I got a face

Yep Alrighty so it's my turn to yes grill DJ.

I feel like I'm getting a tarragon. Okay. I was

on the where were you in a night of September

5th? Tell me where you were seeing What kind

of setup did you have when you started podcasting

and what do you use now I I Almost I'm afraid

to listen to the earlier episodes because I just

had a MacBook Pro. I didn't have a mic I was

just I was using the mic from the laptop so I

can only imagine How echo we know it? I don't

remember cuz I edited all of the shows I don't

remember it be I think the the MacBook Pro's

mic was pretty good when we started because it

was a brand new laptop, but now I have like a

Mic at the music now or whatnot and it was very

rudimentary it's not as I Don't say professional

it's not as you know set up as most podcasts.

I like being comfortable So like right now I'm

lying on my bed as I do a podcast I've always

done that where I just set up everything on the

I would never like sit at a desk and do a podcast

because it feels too I don't know stifling to

me. I always want to be like completely relaxed

because when I'm completely relaxed I the comedy

commas little little quicker Yeah, like I'm taking

the test if I'm sitting at a desk it feels like

I'm being you know graded or something like that

I Can say to that point? You know Steve and I

have been doing this for a long time at this

point, but over the last six months since I've

Sort of been semi -retired retired whatever where

we're only doing X number of shows in in the

interim I hate podcasting in bed. I want my desk.

I want my keyboard. I want my monitor. I want

my mouse. I want to be able to. No, no, no. Absolutely.

But like now that I've experienced it, I'm like,

this is just horrible. Anyway. Well, I see I

have a set up like I have this monstrous desk

that we bought from a Facebook marketplace thing

that my wife found. And it's like two hundred

dollars is what she paid for it. And the thing

goes for like two grand. And It is a monster.

But anyways, I have my multi -monitor set up

here in my microphone boom arm that's attached

to the desk. And so it's literally right in front

of my face now, whereas before I had to lower

my chair so my face was even with the stand that

held the mic that was on my desk. And it would

pick up all kinds of other residual background

noise. But yeah, I mean, it's. I pretty much

have to stay at my computer at my desk because

if I don't and I get comfortable I fall asleep

I Like podcasting during the day because nothing

I mean, I don't mind podcast I can podcast whenever

but you're right if because I'm on a bed most

of the time I if the show is kind of like Usually

it never happens on our show because we're very

But if I'm on another show and it's like a long

show Sometimes I'm like, okay, I gotta slap my

face a little bit to make sure I hope because

I'm in the most comfortable because I I'm six

two So I have kind of like back issues So if

I'm sitting in a chair at a desk doing a podcast

for plus two hours I'm gonna be like doing this

a lot. You don't want to hear that on a month

So if I'm comfortable I can podcast for I mean

some of the pocket the shows that we do Edit

them down to about an hour and 50 minutes, but

they're usually three hours long. Yeah, that's

usually how it goes, right? You know, we're talking

we're talking we're talking we do the show in

the middle and then we're talking we're talking

we're talking So since we were kind of talking

about gear and how we we'd like to podcast in

relaxing or non relaxing ways As far as your

headphones and your microphones if if any of

its I don't know if you've experienced them breaking

during your your podcast duration, but do you

usually buy the same exact setup or do you upgrade

to something totally different if It's funny

when I I think when like I was using the MacBook

Pro Initially to do the recordings and I wanted

to get a mic and I got a Blue Yeti just because

I went to the apple store and i was like okay

let me try what this is and i've not had i'm

not gonna as much wood as i can find i've not

had one single problem with it uh and i'm of

the school of if it ain't broke don't fix it

i think the qualities of the audio quality of

our show has been i mean at least to my standards

uh superb i if somebody gave me a better microphone

like a sennheiser or something like that i'm

not gonna say no but i mean i Have not again.

I'm knocking. I would had any problems with that.

I've had headphone issues because Headphones

are literally designed to break They're literally

designed to break so I use air earbuds now or

air pods whatever the hell you want to call those

things right now Just so I can have full range

of motion when I'm again lying on my bed doing

the pocket But yeah, the mic Mike wise Blue Yeti

I would anybody ever tells me when they're starting

with the kid. I always say yeah blue yeti I have

the big one and I see I see it everywhere. It's

it's probably the most common one I've seen on

other people's digital podcast like comic book

girl 16 or 13 whatever she uses that and a lot

of podcasters use that on that YouTube or whatever

content creators It's a great mic. I have not

had any issues. So I would say Go with that.

I would go down. See I've noticed that a lot

of people use The the XLR or the more advanced

stuff and they it's that elitist thought When

when I say that with like quotes around my hands

because you don't need anything super fantastic

But I think that they kind of lead everybody

to believe they do I have the Yeti as well and

I've had it since I don't know 2011 And it's

like a Honda Civic. It's like it's the most dependable.

Again, not going with the end of my I mean, it

does exactly what I think we need. Anything more

than that is kind of leaning into overkill. Yeah.

Unless you. doing like a studio, you're making

it for like Spotify or some XM radio or something.

But for the ways we're doing a podcast where

it's kind of, you know, we're kind of independent

podcasting type, I think we're batting a high

batting average with a Blue Yeti. Yeah, see,

I have the boom arm. I have the shock mount,

the windscreen and the pop screen filter on it.

So it's all like decked out. But I mean, if I

was going to get a new one, I would probably

get There's the AT 2020 it's it's a It supports

like USB and USB C and it's it's a little bit

more compact but honestly like the biggest issue

is It's soundproofing. Yeah, right soundproofing

is a pain in the butt No, I mean especially because

a lot of our show maybe 40 % of our show is sketches

so We have to or when I'm doing them. I'm editing

them together. I'm like Doing a lot of editing

to make the sound sound the way I want like I

just did it speaking of how I did the 2001 sketch

last night and I was doing the day voice and

I I have to Be very proficient in noise cancellation

and audacity and final cut getting the Messing

around with audio but just to record a podcast

when it's just you know, talking about a movie

You have to worry about all the other stuff Yeah,

I would I would go with what you're going with

but thankfully I I was taught how to do a lot

of I want to say finagling with audio in terms

of, you know, sometimes I got a hissing noise.

I got to get rid of that. I got to learn how

to get rid of that stuff that that that would

hurt a sketch. You probably wouldn't hurt a show.

But for me, if I'm trying to recreate a scene

in a movie, I want it to sound exactly how it

sounds. Oh, yeah. So I so like I have to make

sure I know how to do all that. I call it finagling,

but it's essentially just editing audio. Awesome.

So Do you think? You'd be podcasting for as long

as you have so far Yeah, oh I only reason I say

it is I say that is because one like I said before

I never had any intention and then I did it and

I was hooked and I love doing it and Like it's

almost the one true creative outlet that I have

where it's like I could be sitting down one day,

come up with an idea, contact Steve and say,

hey, look, do me a favor. I want Kermit the Frog

to say Yippee -ki -yay. And I have created something

out of thin air that is, to me, very amusing.

And it gives our show some sort of uniqueness.

I it's such a rewarding experience and you know,

it's not like what doing the show was a burden

It's very very fun to do the show every every

time we get to do it What you really want Steve

to say is Yippee -ki -yay, Mr. Falcon Yeah, that

that skit was was actually one of my favorites

to I had John McLean played by Kermit the Frog

in a sketch and I said, yeah, I need I need Usually

it's me riding Steve with a really weird requests.

Like hey, how's your Kermit the Frog? Hey, could

you say yippee -ki -yay? Mr. Falcon as Kermit

the Frog and then it'll be like Okay, that's

kind of what the conversation goes. Yeah, just

the pull that out of nothing and then create

something that Me I go back and listen to that

sketch a lot and it's like this. That's just

it's just funny to me. It's So to me, it's a

rewarding thing where I would not want to ever

stop doing it because it's fun It's never like

oh man. I gotta go do a podcast It's never it's

always fun to talk about something that I'm super

interested in and that I have a hand in helping

create Oh, yeah, totally. Personally, I love

podcast skits. And my first introduction to that

was when This Week in Geek used to have a guy

named David Double D Dennis on their program.

And he used to do these weird sketches, and he

would do all the impressions himself. And it

was quite humorous how they would all come together.

I'll have to send those to you sometime, because

some of them are quite hilarious. Before I created

a lot of the shows that are in, And collaborate

with Mike on geek cast radio They I used to be

like a super fan so I would do a mega cut of

everything this guy did into like one episode

and It's it's hilarious to listen to actually.

I used to listen to this guy. I'm in Florida

and there was this guy He was originally lived

in Florida, but he was to Canada, but he always

broadcast board is like one of the major influences

of our sketches his name was Neil Rogers and

he had He would always come like it was a radio

show a talk radio show or whatever and he talked

about everything but before his his intros and

outros between the segments were sketches and

they were they would range from Mickey Mouse

sketch, which I've kind of done as an ode to

him or a spongebob sketch or a Michael Eisner

sketch. He would always have these little funny

sketches intro and outro. And I was like, you

know what? When we started doing the show, we

never we didn't initially have sketches. And

then I think we took a long break. And then I

did a Jeff Goldblum sketch and it just caught

on after there. And I was like, yeah, I want

to do it just like that. It kind of gives us

the and that stuff right there to me. I think

when we started doing that is when I was like,

this is. Something I don't want to stop doing

I would rather I want to do more of it If it

was up to me, I'd be doing a show a week though

It takes a little longer to put those shows together,

but it's just not anything but fun for me Awesome,

whatever you do folks. Don't ever ask DJ to Do

an Owen Davian sketch because I scare the crap

out of you. I Think I did that for years. I did

that first. Yeah Oh No, we were doing I think

it was my or episode 120 or something or other

we were doing mission impossible or whatever

we're doing those reviews and I'm like Hmm, who

do I know that can do? Yeah, Mike Mike did the

what I did to Steve Mike to me was like How's

your own Davian? I'm like your wife or girlfriend.

I can do the other time you want I can do it

all night So I don't even remember the contact

that it's like well I have it here. Here you

go. I don't know what you're gonna use it for

That's super creepy. It sounds like the guy from

Hannibal Put the lotion in the basket. You be

dead, Louvita. You big, great, big fat person.

Yeah, yeah. That's a buffalo bill, you're thinking.

Yeah, I couldn't remember the name. It's between

Owen Davion and Tansha Gerber. Put it in your

pocket. And Buffalo Bill. They're all in the

same kind of general area. May Philip Seymour

Hoffman rest in peace. Oh, wow. So might go ahead

and take away with the next one because I think

we kind of got a little bit of the the other

question that was on mine Okay, so now we're

gonna talk about your podcast listenership and

get your listening habits as a listener What

defines a good podcast to you? Keeping me entertained

you the only thing I don't like about a podcast

is if hmm like Some of the podcasts I listen

to there, if I hear one person who's super engaged

and the other person's kind of like, yeah, like

not like it's almost like a game of tennis to

me when I'm editing or when I'm editing our podcasts,

I always try and get rid of that air as much

as possible. So when you ever hear the show,

I try and make it invisible. But sometimes like

I'll say a question, because as we're doing this

show, I don't know these questions ahead of time

when we do games. Don't tell Matt and Justin

anything of what we're doing until we do it on

the show live So if there's a game, they don't

know what game it is until I say it the question

They don't go and sometimes I'll say something

and they'd be like what and I have to edit that

out I don't like any I want it all to be rapid

So if I'm listening to a podcast where somebody's

playing tennis and the other person's not serving

it back that bothers me I like it when they're

you can see two people who have the podcasting

is chemistry. Oh, yeah When you got somebody

who you know you got a good partner and you're

talking to them and you're talking back, I can

listen to anybody talk about anything. It could

be any subject. It could be the Bechdel test.

It could be The Cinephiles. It could be any show

where the two hosts have that chemistry where

I'm not... Sitting in nothingness Or one guy's

enthusiastic the other guy doesn't care. I can't

stand I don't care either when somebody goes

What do you think about this? I don't know. I

don't care If you don't care then I should just

go to the podcast where somebody does care because

I've turned I tuned in because I want people

to Care about the thing So, yeah, those are the

things that I kind of I look for I'm not gonna

lie. That's happened a couple times to us. We

were like talking about something It happens

to everyone. It's just you know, if if I get

stuck on yeah, if I get stuck on a recording

where they're talking about For example have

nothing against the franchise or anything like

that. For example Dragon Ball Z I check out and

I go on mute and I'll go to the bathroom or I'll

go get something to drink or something because

I have nothing to contribute to that conversation.

My negative Nancy, if it's a subject I don't

like, I use it as a pivot to Like if somebody

starts talking, I think I was talking to a friend

of my Jake Cluitt and he was like, Hey, we want

to do a podcast on deep blue sea. And I fucking

hate deep blue sea. So I'm like, uh, I really

hate that movie, but I'll do it because it's

gonna be I'll be the Point counterpoint. I'll

just be essentially going. Yeah, this movie sucks

But if it's something that I don't like I usually

use it as a as a pivot to at least engage in

a conversation I don't want to ever be on a podcast

and not be Giving my all to the host if I somebody's

has asked me to be on a show Even if I don't

like the subject they're talking about I tried

to do my best to make sure that they have Something

to work with in terms of my response because

if I'm just going yeah, I don't know This this

is bad because of this or I think it's bad because

of this and blah blah blah blah And even if I'm

completely incorrect, I think we did the white

knight discussion, which I was not a fan of the

white knight and Everybody else I think Dan was

a fan of it completely. Yeah, like yeah, I don't

like the white knight But I didn't do that. I

was like, you know what? I'll tell you why I

don't like The White Knight. I'll explain to

you why, my reasons for, and I will counterpoint

everything Dan says, but Dan is super smart,

so it's very difficult for me to beat him in

a debate. But it's essentially, I don't want

to check out of a show. I always want to be engaged,

and engagement is what I try and do. Now, you

do realize once that eventually does hit trade

paperback, you are going to have to be on the

curse of the White Knight, right? Sure. Because

you need somebody that's going to hit it. I'll

be in the back where my arm is folded. Mike's

going to come after me at that point. He's going

to be like, OK, he's going to do a less maniacal

version of Mark Hamill's Joker. OK. I don't like

this white night you're talking about this white

night is full of crap As a listener do you prefer

prefer short 30 minute to an hour or an hour

and a half shows Or do you prefer longer podcast

episodes as in two hours or more? I'm old so

I don't have Confliction of ADD that the modern

society has and I'll use this I use this to everything

in terms of entertainment if it's good I don't

give a damn how long it is. I mean all the Ventures

endgame is too long if we do endgame could have

been three straight days and I would have sat

there and watched it because it was good if it's

bad in Did immediately but if it's good, I don't

care how long it is. I get pissed up like I Podcasts

I was listening to I think it was the cinephiles

and they were talking about I forget it was a

movie. It might have been a movie. I liked I

think it might have been Let's say it's St. Elmo's

chair. It's a fire I think it was and they were

discussing and the discussion was so good But

they were like, well, we got to wrap up but I'm

like, no I can listen you guys talk about this

subject forever I'm the mind because I know a

lot of people I can't get this over with because

essentially if you're making something good Wanted

to continue it's if if I get up and it tastes

good and I'm not full keep giving me cake But

again, I I know people in terms of editing and

presentation you want to have it a good crisp

A set amount of time. You don't want to go over

three hours or two hours or whatever I just say

if you're gonna have that time make sure you're

making it good If you're gonna do Lord of Rings

four -hour cut, make sure those four hours are

chock full of goodies. If our show is long and

personal -wise, like when we did our anniversary

special, I'm like, I'm gonna, instead of writing

one sketch, I'm gonna write five sketches because

I wanna make sure that if we're gonna go this

amount of time, I wanna make sure that they're,

they're getting what they paid for. They're not

gonna check out. So - Absolutely. I rather it

be long and short, but that's me. I'm minor.

I remember when I was when I first started listening

And I mentioned this back on on on episode five

of this show That when I first started I was

checking out for my read my local radio program

in Boston that I used to listen to as a kid.

And then I went and found other things. And one

of the things I found was two guys reviewing

every single episode of the entire DC animated

universe, including Teen Titans, sadly. But hey,

it got their show to 100 podcasts, whatever,

because Teen Titans is not in continuity anyway.

But they would record anywhere from an hour and

a half to sometimes almost three hours. They

would do five episodes of like Batman, the animated

series, five reviews in one podcast. And I'm

like, OK, cool. I can listen to this all day

long. So I am more so in the camp of an hour,

two hours, OK, three hours, OK, whatever. For

the guy that did that show, the main guy that

hosted that show, Michael David Sims on Earth2

.net, he has a main show of his network called

Earth2 .net the show. It is the only podcast

I have ever seen since I've known about podcasts

that has reached 1000 episodes. Oh wow for their

thousandth episode, which I have never listened

to and I need to go back and do so It I don't

even know I know it's a bunch of things in it

for their 1000th episode. It's 24 hours long

Marathon I don't know how I don't know how they

did it You can listen to it like an hour a day

you can you know pull a 24 where it's you know

This hour to this hour and then you know, but

you know, I don't know I just I always like it

cuz look cuz like you said DJ like I Don't want

it to end. I'm listening to your show to listen

to what you have to say right and if you put

like for me Nowadays, it's like, OK, I can do

two hours or less. But at the same time, as a

producer, I'm like, as long as we get the conversation

and as long as we get the talking points that

we want to talk about, if the show ends or if

Steve comes up with a Megatron Joker brainchild

and says something so appalling, I'm like, OK,

good night, everybody. You know, that kind of

thing has happened. But yeah, there's some I

mean this times we're like I would be guesting

on the show. We're having a great discussion

and Because they're stringent on time They want

to close like god damn and then we would close

the show But we would keep talking and then like

you're saying in the conversations that we have

off -air Damn, I wish this was on the show because

we would discover something and that is why I

never until we are ready to say Okay, guys, I

will see you later or I'll talk to you tomorrow

night That is why I never stopped recording whether

we're on the air or whether we're on the doing

the show or not That's why I always end up with

extra shit so I can throw it in like an outtakes

episode or something Yeah, we do that too. We

have because we zoom call so we have usually

if I'm editing a show because in between we have

our shows there in segments and Between the segments

will kind of be like kicking around stuff before

we go into the next segment if something is really

funny that we dropped or said or Went on a tangent

because we're tangent a lot I would either try

and work it into the show and edit in a way where

you don't know that we Tangited it in or I was

it with us dumping an outtakes because it's so

good I don't want to lose it to the ether. Yeah

Because usually every time we do anything as

a pre -show well before before we start And then

there's an after show like we just finished doing

our commentary We'll talk for another 30 minutes

and then those 30 minutes on either side could

be something fantastic that none of the listeners

might have got a chance to hear and that's why

we just dump it in the outtakes because That

gives us just more content essentially Absolutely

as a listener Do you start at the beginning of

a podcast the most recent episode or do you jump

around now? I know varying podcasts differ from

this, but let's just say You first found Tooncast

You know, are you gonna start at the episode

zero where we introduced the show or are you

gonna start an episode? 50 where we're talking

about inspector gadget I'm usually if it's a

show where it's like like to cast where you guys

are doing different subjects I'm looking I would

scroll through the subject that I think is cool

Or I'm interested in listening to like I would

probably jump around certain other podcasts.

I will listen in an order For example, like how

did this get made? I'd probably listen in order

Because they have a formula essentially where

it's just they're doing the same thing But they're

doing it for this movie or they're doing the

same thing, but they're doing it for that movie

but if you guys are doing a Certain subject matter

that I want to hear broken down. I would just

jump Well, I don't really care about that one,

but I do care about that one. Let me click that

one I would like you're saying it varies on the

certain on the podcast that I'm listening to.

Yeah Okay, Steve your turn He's like okay now

that I've done that So as a listener how many

hosts are too many on one episode I Think I'm

a Dwayne Wade fan. I think the perfect number

is three for everything three is perfect You

can get away with two one is very tough for I

think is too many if you have three I think that's

the perfect number that tried enough power. It's

just a perfect You got, uh, you know three different

that I mean not saying because we have three

on our show but like if I listen to If you look

at a lot of shows how do they just get made as

I just came up one of the examples, uh paul shear,

uh, uh june diane rayfield and um, that's his

name quick quick clock guy from john wick chapter

three. It's always uh Jason manzuka. Sorry, uh

the the when you have the three it's really good

when you have the two It's gonna be very dependent

on chemistry when you guys have because it's

To me though I'd have to like this pair if it's

three if somebody is not good But I got I still

got two to worry about that are really good That's

why I was trying to go with a three person thing

that doesn't count guests or anything I always

think that three is the perfect the perfect the

perfect number Awesome yeah, I mean I I Generally

believe that as well of having three hosts or

you know, you can sometimes get away with more

but Often, I feel like you don't necessarily

get as much of a conversation point. It's more

of a alright Let's hurry up and get the next

person. You know, it's it's right, right, right.

Yeah So yeah, I definitely agree with that So

when do you stop listening to a podcast altogether

like what's something that causes you to say,

okay, I'm done with this As in I don't like it

anymore as in yeah, or you just don't have time

to listen to it anymore either way It's more

if they say something or like if something happens

on the show where you're like, oh I don't agree

with this person's opinion I'm no longer going

to interact with them or I'm no longer going

to listen to their content to this boy a lot

of Something that happened to us recently Because

I was gonna say it has happened recently right

It would probably take a lot like I mean Sometimes

I listen to I'll be scrolling to YouTube And

I'm not a big fan of a certain person's political

views or views on certain subjects, but they

might have a guest on. I like I use Joe Rogan,

for example, where I'm not 100 percent eye to

eye on how he thinks about things. But then if

he's interviewing Mike Tyson, I'm going to watch

that thing. So it's going to take a lot for me

to even if I disagree with a person, if they're

doing something that I think is interesting,

I probably still pop in. I hate hate hate Bill

Maher But sometimes if he's in if he's interviewing

somebody like I really respect I would probably

pop it in just to Listen to the other person

how they will react to the person I do not like

or something like that, you know, it would take

a lot for me to go. Nah, I'm done I don't ever

want to see anything this person ever does again.

It would take a lot for me to do that I'm not

I'm a little bit more forgiving in that standpoint

It would take the only way for me to ever watch

Bill Maher ever again Would be as if Robert Downey

jr. Was in his suit and he was basically, you

know blasting him Stage yeah when he when he

took out when he took out Stan Lee I was like,

okay that was the closest I came to like I'm

done with the guy I mean, I made a video where

I was just shitting all over Bill Bill Maher

this as a catharsis But then I was like, you

know what? He had on Elizabeth Warren I think

I was some one some politician one time after

that like way after that I was like, you know

what? I want to hear how this person reacts to

this dick. So usually I It would take a lot for

me to the completely cold turkey quit something

if I find something that they're doing interesting

It you know, it'd have to be really really bad.

So it's a mine that would a rare occurrence I

would say But I'm weird don't don't don't use

me as a witness Like I it takes a lot for me

to stop listening most more so it's just I don't

have time It's it I mostly that's the only thing

that would stop me from listening up to be honest

Political leanings aside. I've listened to people

on both sides of the fence I used to work for

one side of the fence and Honestly, like I got

tired of hearing a lot of it I and again like

it's it's a middle -of -the -road thing for me

like just common sense But I don't it's not one

of those things that would create a problem where

I would quit listening to somebody or talking

to them over it So I get it there are idiots

out there that do their damnedest to alienate

Alienate, you know and it I mean I can name them.

I will I will I will keep them Quiet, but usually

I again me. I'm if I'm listening for something.

I'm listening for What's interesting is it I

mean, I don't like this person But is the conversation

this person is gonna have with this person interesting

I want to listen to it. That's typically you

what you get with a care of a Podcast host like

a Joe Rogan where I mean again, I completely

don't follow his You know, I I'm a man and I

hunt I don't do it I don't but sometimes they'll

have interesting conversation with as you were

talking about Robert Denney jr. Or he'll have

a conversation with you know Elon Musk or a Navy

SEAL who's seen shit that I want to hear about

or you know Right. It's the it's the the subject

matter. I'm more hunting for not the person The

person is gonna have to be entertaining as hell

for me to be like I'm only watching because I

love this guy Yeah Yeah, I totally totally agree

with you there Besides Joe Rogan's sellout, he's

exclusively on Spotify. He's not technically

a podcaster anymore. Oh Lord, here we go. Well,

it's true. You're not a podcaster if you're not

on every platform. Then you're just a radio,

you're a radio -owned jockey for the company

that bought you. So before we move on to the

15th question here, now that you're saying that,

Steve, my first thought was that old ad. I forget

if it I think it was when they were doing the

ps2 I don't know anyway Sony did an ad where

it was some sort of joke with them or funny or

die or it was with somebody but it obviously

Sony gave permission to do the ad where it was

like this is the ps9 the ps9 is plugged right

into your brain that's essentially what I want

podcasting what I want the geek cast radio network

to be basically somebody presses a switch on

their phone And it turns us on inside their head.

You see what you're doing? That is how Skynet

starts. You're literally helping Skynet take

over the world. You are Miles Dyson. So what

podcasts are you currently listening to? Oh,

God, a million. Uh, top of my head, I can mention

a couple of them. How did this get made? I listened

to The Cinephiles religiously. And I mean, it

could, it matters on the day. And it's usually

it's I'm looking for inspiration. Uh, sometimes

for example, I, we just did a Luke Skywalker

sketch and it came about because the cinephiles

were talking about returning to Jedi and their

whole, it was just a normal conversation. We're

like, this doesn't really make sense. Luke's

plan. I should make a sketch about how ridiculous

Luke's plan is and that's usually it's that or

it's a movie that I really didn't like and I

want to hear somebody discuss it So I'll just

pop around there or maybe it's some movie that

I freaking loved and I want to hear somebody

like Kevin Smith Go crazy about it or you know,

so in terms of shows I would probably say the

ones I listen to the most or probably be the

cinephiles How did this get made because it's

freaking hilarious. And, uh, huh. Uh, I listened

to, uh, I listened to a lot of mainstream ones.

A lot, a lot of them, the main movie ones, I

would say, um, the back, so then, well, yeah,

I mean, I essentially I'm hunting the subject.

Right. Yeah, I'm hunting this. Oh, wow. They're

talking about Mad Max 3 Road I'm definitely gonna

listen to this bike, you know, it's like it's

kind of like that. So yeah, it's I'm hunting

for that if you guys had an episode on Go bots

or something. I'm definitely gonna pop that in

because I want to hear what the hell you guys

have to say about that You know, I'm hunting

the subject, but I do listen to I I'm a wanderer.

I'm like, uh, I will, uh, I can go through the

top 10 podcasts for like five straight episodes.

And then I'll watch, listen to five straight

episodes of mostly in the picking. And then I'll

go to, uh, the center files and then I'll pop

over to how to just get made because I have a

lot of time in between, you know, luckily the

way my life is, I have time where I don't, I

can have podcasts blazing in my ear. While I'm

doing shit So it helps me out of it Very cool.

Very cool. All right, let's talk about podcast

production as a producer Do you find yourself

listening to podcasts less and less obviously

not? More and more I mean, I like to learn from

my mistakes and I like to see what the other

shows are doing that maybe We can implement,

you know Like I thought I talked about how I

we got sketch ideas from that show. Sometimes

I want to come up with ways Essentially our show

is discussing discussing movie and entertainment

news But I want to do it in a way where it's

not the typical this was happened today in the

news I kind of want to do it in an interesting

way So sometimes I listen to how other shows

do it and I try and put a twist on it or something

like that. So No, in terms of production. Yeah,

I, I, I want to listen to as many shows as possible

because I want to, I don't want to say steal

their ideas. I want to say, I just want to see

how other shows are doing it and see what differentiates

their show from mine. I can do the same thing,

but differently. And we both can be, you know,

serving the same audience essentially. Yeah.

I find that now that I'm listening more than

producing currently. I'm sorry to say and I'm

not gonna say this about whatever show I'm actually

saying this about I'm like, oh Didn't we do that

better already? I'll hear something and I'm like,

I don't like the way they framed that I think

it was done better six years ago The Beast Wars

podcast no, I'm not actually because nobody can

beat us Exactly. Well, yeah. Hello and we had

both of them. We had the real one I think you

guys are did. Did you guys do a draft? I think

did you guys do a something draft? I can't remember.

I don't remember. I can't it might have been

a while back the top 100 It could have been I

know I was I think we I know we did I was on

one of the top 100 animated movies and kind of

and we kind of came up with a segment that was

Kind of similar to what you guys were doing but

it was it was different where we just picked

I Would ask them what was the best of one thing?

We wouldn't have a whole list I would like to

say a subject like I say hey, what's the best

time travel movie? And this day with his pick

another topic then I go what's the best and I

kind of got it off of Just show listening to

another show do something else That's kind of

where I say like I listen to I try and get inspired

by other stuff and maybe there's a You guys mentioned

a movie that I have not heard of that would be

great for us to do a commentary on You know stuff

like stuff like that. It's kind of where why

I try and I want to say Consume as much podcast

as possible. Yeah So fall asleep over there Megatron

I just get lost cuz there's so many numbers As

a producer, are you a one -man show kind of host

or do you prefer working with co -hosts? I Like

again, we talked about the chemistry the yep.

The funny thing is I Knew Matt from before I

went to film school. We worked together child

care actually and we would always come off of

work and we would be talking about movies and

then I went to college and I met Justin and we

do the same thing and then Matt met Justin and

we would have these conversations and It'd be

like yeah, this is this is it. This is III like

this because It's just guys on the couch talking

about things that they would normally talk about

so one -man show Like I said, it'd be very very

difficult. I've Kicked it around in my head But

I, again, I like the tennis match. I like somebody

saying, well, you're wrong because of this, but

there's one voice. It's very, you know, even

Howard Stern has people to bounce off of, you

know, the, the best have people, the producer

sitting, uh, you know what I'm saying? I don't

like the, I don't want to say the Bill Simmons

approach, but I don't like the Uh, i'm the one

voice god that's telling you how to think, you

know network style i'm as mad as hell I like

somebody to Make me challenge my opinion and

I challenge this back and then we kind of create

a show Thank you morgan freeman Andy Dufresne

Crawl Andy Dufresne Punched him in the throat

So as a producer do you feel you need a mixing

board and all the fancy stuff that would essentially

I mean I know you partially answered this About

the radio station or good with just a great mic

and a headphone right in terms of editing. I

need the good stuff Like, we have, especially

because we do the sketches and we, I mean, if

it's just us talking, I probably wouldn't need

all that good stuff, but I mean, I have two different

editing softwares, two, which like Final Cut

and Final Cut X, and I have Hitman Pro, I've

got Adobe sometimes, it matters what I'm doing.

I'm doing sometimes we do I think we did the

GI Joe sketch and I wanted which I think you

helped me with He did Cobra commander and I wanted

to implement the video for it so sometimes I'll

use final cut but yeah, I in terms of editing

I want the bells and whistles because of the

what I I always want to make the quality of those

sketches almost freaking perfect If it was just

us talking I wouldn't be just recording this

go But when I'm doing a sketch or we're doing

a game segment or doing something like that where

I especially our show we have the robot announcer

Julie where I have to write all her dialogue

and make her stuff sound good and Seamlessly

fit into the show. I want all the bells and whistles

I can because it does helps me makes it makes

me it makes the show Makes me helps me produce

the show faster because if I and keep the quality

up There was one point where I had a thought

and I haven't actually told you this This is

gonna be a surprise to you where I'm like, ooh,

I want to steal Julie for GCR in Tell me what

you wanted to say I remember when we first came

up with Julie and it was uh, just keep bringing

up how we wanted to have an announcer announce

the show kind of like Saturday Night Live as

we have the cold open sketches and I was like,

well, I don't want to get anybody to do it. We

should just have it like a how 9 ,000 owed. But

I was a hip hop head back in the day. So I was

like, well, there was this album called Tribe

Called Quest Midnight Marauders where it was

a girl that would introduce segments and it was

like a robot voice. And I was like, why don't

we just make it like how mixed with that? And

I was like, yeah, I'll just have her say one

thing and that'd be it. And then one thing came

on that we've done 140 episodes. And she's never

repeated any line. I have to write her. She literally

isn't her own person. So I have to really write

all her stuff. She has intros and outros for

every segment. And I have to come up with something

really. Annoying for her to say every single

Every episode 20 times an episode and now Justin

came up with an idea where we've started the

last three episodes where it's Julie's diary

where I have to literally write Spoiler alert

Julie doesn't exist. I have to write Julie's

diatribes in her diary. So that that's That's

like that's a process. But yeah, if you need

her, you know, she's always she's always willing

to help Mean mean mean way Absolutely. We use

her as our check. If you ever watch it, listen

to her show. She only serves to insult us. She

serves. Everything out of her mouth is an insult

to us. She's rude because we use her as the people

who would be critiquing our show. So if you're

going to insult our show, you better come up

with something better than what Julie is going

to say about us during the show. I know you've

mentioned the editing before, but how much time

do you actually put into the editing of each

episode? We just did a show with Greg afar from

this cast entertainment. It, we recorded it on

Monday. It takes me about a day about it. And

then usually I'm, I do things ahead of time.

Like if I'm doing a sketch or let's say I'm doing

a show, like I'm preparing for a show. We do,

we record every 15th of the month and we drop

it though. The first of the next month. So usually

a show is two weeks old. I would get the sketches

prepared way in advance With sketch for a show

most likely I recorded and made that sketch Maybe

a year the GI Joe sketch that I'm talking about.

We still have not aired it We just keep it we

were it's a schedule. It's this not been used

yet I kind of use it if I've run out of things

to write. So yeah, we it Typically takes me a

day because I have prepped everything I've written

Julie's dialogue. I've recorded Julie's dialogue

I've done in the interest of naturals. I've done

the sketches. I've done the post stuff I've done

the music and so when the show starts It's just

us talking and I've got to drop that in and then

edit that out and everything is done So that's

the day if I did it the long way where I just

Did everything I'd record the show and then do

the sketch and then do the air probably take

me a week So I try and I try and stay proactive

as I'm producing i'm producing december show

now august show is done september show is that

i've already produced those shows other than

us the subject matter or we're talking about

live but all the intros and outros and sketches

and stuff those are done all the way up to december

we try and do that it saves us or it saves me

there's me an hour an hour and a million hours

and it's me i'm only the simplistic reviews podcast

editor Justin does the commentaries because Those

are formatted differently. There's less Crazy

production because it's essentially just us talking

this less scripting involved. He does all that

stuff So I was like what Justin you you take

care of the commentaries I'll do the show because

there's a lot of bells and whistles and crap

and stuff. So like I said, I we Try and do everything

Ahead of time to save me time to edit. Let's

go right now. I have maybe eight sketches that

have not aired that will that I can just when

we do the show I can just drop in that ready

to go because we when we first started doing

sketches I used to do it the long way where okay

we'll do the show and then we'll record the sketch

and that took freaking forever and I'll never

do that again so yeah Okay, I think I know the

answer this one but we have to ask it anyway

because it's one of the 27 questions as a producer

Do you prefer in -person recordings over the

internet? Versus the internet recording so versus

Skype zoom, etc. You have never done a show in

the same room really We ever done one show in

the same room and that was when Had gotten married,

but yeah true. I'm in Florida Matt who lives

in Florida moved to Tennessee in Justin's in

Palm Springs and we've never Recorded I think

the closest we ever came we did a commentary

for hard ticket to Hawaii and he said there is

classic and I was in the room with Matt but Justin

was still in Palm Springs so in terms in terms

of zoom recording zoom was the the gift from

God because we don't I prefer having everybody

on a separate audio track because it gives me

freedom to edit. So if it's all mixed together,

I'm kind of stuck with the conversation. But

if I have just on a track, I'm on a track, Matt's

on a track and our guest or whatever, if we have

a guest that week or month is on a track and

we're, there's something that the guest says,

but I talked over it. I can just cut out my,

it gives me the freedom to do that. I like. The

zoom stuff the over there and the way I edit

is that we I don't want you to tell that we're

not in the same room exactly. Can't really say

I wanted all the sound equally like it's kind

of like we're we're all we're I think I was talking

to somebody and they did they thought that we

did the show all in person. I wouldn't even know

how to do that. I had never done a podcast in

a room with three different people when I was

doing it with the commentary. It was weird because

I'm like, I don't stop looking at me. Yeah, exactly.

Like, yeah, I can say it's it's extremely strange

because when Steve and I when Steve and I did

it, I'm like, you know, we're looking at each

other talking to each other and uh, you know,

he'll say something and I'll give him a weird

look He's like don't look at me like that. I

said what I said, you know that kind of thing

One time and it was weird. I was like, yeah,

I don't know. I like again theater to mind man

theater to mind I've only done it twice. I did

it with Steve. Like I mentioned and I did it

with Back when I was in Chicago suburbs, there

was a local restaurateur, Big Ed, from Big Ed's

Barbecue. I had him over the house to do an interview

about his restaurant, because they do a free

Thanksgiving meal for anybody that lives in that

area. They've been doing it for four years now.

This year coming up, hopefully, will be the fifth

year that they're doing it. So I'm like, ooh,

that would make a good podcast interview. And

I did the interview. he and I like I have not

left I had to at that point of the recording

I had not left as much as that in a very long

time and it just it was so fun it was so interesting

I actually have him I think I uploaded these

I mean it may or may not have I had him do a

promo for us where it's like you know this is

Big Ed from Big Ed's Barbecue, you're listening

to the GeekCast Radio Network, sucker. He added

that on the end himself. I didn't do that. That's

perfect. That's beautiful. So before Steve takes

over, one final question. And this is more from

my own neuroses, because I'm like, if we're doing

separate things, they need to be separate. As

both a listener and a producer, do you prefer?

Everything on one podcast feed or would you like

to have things on separate feeds? So in the case

of gcrn Tooncast is its own feed. It's not on

the geek cast radio network feed of the main

show of geek cast radio Movie we can review is

its own feed Etc. Etc. Etc. Right. Um in terms

of I think Matt and Justin have started wanting

to consolidate everything To one spot just because

it's easier It's all about the ease of the audience

finding the stuff, right? I think It's kind of

both you want to have it all like we wanted everybody

to go to our website But we want to hey, okay

you go to our website all are all the the shows

that I produce are right here Go to the right.

All the commentaries are right here. All the

the Matt does a show Beyond the pale ale which

is all about beer and he interviews people he

wants it all one thing there. It's almost like,

you know, you wanted to make it neat. I would

prefer it to be as long as it's easy for the

audience to find. And it seems like if you have

them on separate things in one good hot spot,

I would prefer it that way. Cool, cool, cool.

So was there ever a moment? During your whole

podcasting duration when you were done podcasting

or thought you were Done as in I was going to

jail as in you're like I'm hanging up the microphone.

I'm done Basically like fuck you guys. I'm going

home. Oh, no, I don't think we've ever had an

argument I think the most time I ever argue with

like with Justin or Matt. It's not even an argument.

It's like like No, I don't think there's ever

been I'm trying to think Because we're so I think

the show works because we're so like -minded

We never have any I'm trying to think of a disagree

I'm really am like did we ever have an argument

where I was like fuck screw this I'm out of here.

I never think it ever happens almost like guys

because we're so enthusiastic about doing certain

stuff Mm -hmm. I don't think we've ever said

now. I don't want to do this anymore We always

joke on the show where we're like, this is the

last episode. It's supposed to be podcast and

we sit at the beginning of every show, but we're

joking. I don't mean me. I'm joking. I don't

know if they're joking. They don't tell me. Uh,

but no, I don't think we've ever had an argument.

Usually it's worse. The opposite where we're

like, what else can we do? Can we do more stuff?

Why don't we do this thing? You know, it's never

like, and done. I don't feel like doing this

anymore. And this is like, cause it's, it is

hard for them to coordinate times. They have

a lot of stuff going on time wise, but they want

to do it. I in from what I've cleaned, they want

to do it. They never is. And me personally, I've

always wanted to do it. I always, I will continue

wanting to do it. I want to do more of it. I

would love to do it again. Like I told you, I

do a show every week. If it was, uh, time conducive,

but it's never been a time where I wanted to

hang up. No, I don't think so. I'm really trying

to think of the last time we said a curse word

to each other that wasn't a joke, that didn't

have a dick joke involved in it. I don't think

it's ever happened. Well, I can tell you right

now, as long as you, at least from my end currently,

as long as you can handle the recording and editing,

you and I can record every single day. I don't

care what it is. We're going to do the McNeil

Lera report. We're going to do a whole bunch

of news reports. I don't know about that. People

would be in futures. We're doing soybean futures

for the rest of the time. No, no, no. It's no,

no, no. It's not soybean futures because that's

in the past. This is orange juice. There we go.

There we go. Training places. That's right. Beaks.

Whatever happened to him? Oh, boy. So what is

trading places was a movie with Eddie Murphy

and then? Coming up in December on studio 2009

be trading places with DJ Valentine. Yeah, we'll

get rid of Mike and Hey I'm just playing So what

differences do you see in podcasting versus being

on the radio language, um, time because radio

seems like it's just add, add, add, add, add,

add, you know, the box. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we,

we did, we did, we started doing the thing where

we, uh, joke about that. Uh, Justin does this

thing where it's, uh, The sympathic reviews podcast

is not sponsored by and we just make up We just

make up something like granola bars or something

nature valley granola bars and whatever That's

radio radio is ad time and stuff like that podcasting

is more intimate. You're you're in the conversation

radio is like Snippets where podcast it's like

you're you're You're sitting on the couch with

these guys. You're in a meeting with a bunch

of people. They're not going away for about an

hour and a half. You can actually enjoy the hosts.

On radio, it's almost like a flyby. Yeah, I want

to give a disclaimer to this because I have several

friends in radio. I think we all do. But I have

several friends in radio and I don't want to,

I don't want that question to come off as us

throwing radio under the bus. But the good thing

about radio is the audience changes every hour.

Like my buddy, Jesse Raz, who does the morning

show in the, on the, at the local Louisville,

Kentucky station, 1069 play what I've had him

on for several episodes on geek cast radio. And

the one thing he said about it was. even though

you have to repeat certain things like the news

stories and that kind of thing, you have to find

a slightly different way to bring each one of

them up, each hour, and then you get, you know,

the same people that are listening at 6 a .m.

are not gonna be the same people listening at

9 a .m. It's uber hard. I mean, radio is difficult.

I could do it. I could not do it. I prefer podcasting

because it's easier. I can sit down and mull

over a subject. I don't have to worry about that.

They have to worry about five billion things

at once. They're on a clock. They got to go to

break at a certain time. It's crazy. So yeah,

I'm not saying it to demean what they're doing.

I just - I just wanted to, yeah. Yeah, yeah,

I agree with you. They're like air traffic controllers,

man. They're essentially doing a whole bunch

of stuff and they got to make sure they're on

top of their crap. It's almost like I don't know

how they can relax doing it. To me, it seems

like a non relaxing environment, especially when

you got to get to read the copyright. You got

to make sure you don't crap on the the ad people.

And it's a lot of stuff. Would love to do it

try it, but I have a feeling that I would come

away still with like what I feel which is podcasting

It's better because for me because it's just

less You know craziness wanna it's more organic

for podcasting And the thing is, the thing of

it is, is the whole reason, besides the fact

that I had nothing but time on my hands in 2008,

the whole reason why I wanted to start podcasting,

and I've said this before, plenty of times, I

grew up listening to morning radio shows were

my go -to. I never really listened to anything

like night, like drive time radio shows or anything

like that, but the morning shows I absolutely

loved. And I always wanted to be in that. And

I have always wanted to be in radio, but I knew

I could never be in radio because of everything

that those amazing people do to get the content

that they produce done. For four hours. They

do a four hour show. Four or five hour show.

Exactly, yeah. Sorry, Steve. No worries. So if

you've done any interviews with famous people,

which one was your favorite? God. Matt does the

interviews I never do I suck at interviews. I

can't I've never we've done interviews with people

usually they're like filmmakers independent filmmakers

and stuff Matt does a lot of people who were

Matt has a Feel for it. He's very I'm the preparer

and Matt is the best ad -libber I can think of

in terms of Conversation wise so we like you

need to do the interviews. I think I was on a

show Where we've interviewed somebody and I kind

of just sat back and let Matt do it because I'm

not I'm not good at that I can have guests on

that are in our community and kind of like, you

know people we know and the people who are kind

of but if it's a Celebrity, I'm not I'm not I'm

not as cool as you guys guys. I'm not If Kevin

Conroy were ever to be on the show I'd be like

could you just Could you just say you're Batman?

See, I would freak out. I would just, you know,

I'd be fangirling for a very, very long time.

I can say this without hesitation and I wish

I had a clean audio of it. And I wish I may have

to call him and ask him to do this again. We,

when my buddy, uh, uh lupus convoy he used to

be on the i don't know if he's still on and i

haven't listened a while used to be on the tfw

2005 podcast and he and i did the secret origins

podcast for gc r and where we covered every episode

of justice league and justice league unlimited

we interviewed phil lamar Oh God I would freak

out I know see here's the thing I did have a

mini freakout because part of that interview

I just keep I would just keep saying samurai

Jack over and over in my head I couldn't like

I would every word out of my mouth of it so samurai

Jack and samurai Jack Green Lanterns, Green Lantern,

Marshall Manor, Samara Jax, Samara Jax, Samara

Jax, I couldn't, I would not be good at that.

I'd be like, Matt, please, please take this one.

I can't. So to freak out my part, because I didn't

think he was going to do this, but at the time

when we did the interview, I believe Transformers

Animated was still on air on Cartoon Network.

I don't think it had left air yet. I'd have to

look at the actual date of when we did the interview

with Phil. We asked him about him voicing jazz

in transformers animated, right and I asked him

So did the producers want you to do your own

thing or did they want scat man or? Whatever

he goes. Oh, well if you do scat man you and

he goes into a scat man impression I'm like,

holy shit scat man's alive But that was my internal

I'm like, wait a minute Hong Kong police behind

me behind my shit Literally the dude sounded

just like scatman crothers and I really I nearly

lost All of it. I lost almost everything like

I almost interrupt him That's why I want to get

him back to get him to do the line because he

basically goes he in scatman's voice He goes

Megatron You're going down and I'm like, Oh my

God, that is so awesome. I got, I got this thing,

man. I can't, they say, never meet your hero.

Like I had a chance to, like my favorite sports

athlete of all time. I mentioned him already.

It's Dwayne Wade. If I, and I had a chance to

meet him one day and I was like, no, I don't

want to be because I just I wouldn't know I couldn't

I wouldn't be able to I'd be like doing way doing

way doing way I Wouldn't be able to get it out

of my head. It's like when it comes to celebrities

I kind of like, you know what? Yeah, I just keep

that little bit of distance because I don't know

what the hell would happen. I might black out

and Crying we have like a film are I remember

the episode say right Jack when you're fighting

the Beatles I don't want to have to And fill

them are call security on me. I don't want that

Oh, talk about calling security. I thought Maurice

LaMarche was going to fly to Louisville and kill

me. I'm not kidding. So for those people listening

to this episode of Studio 2009, for those new

people that have not listened to our other shows

in the last 11 or so, 12 or so years, back in

2009, I think it was, Optimus Solo and I got

a chance to interview Mr. Maurice LaMarche, voice

of... the brain from Pinky and the Brain. He's

done a whole bunch of other things. He's on Futurama.

He's on all these other things. And Kevin had

asked him the question, what is your favorite

type of voice acting to do? Animation, video

games, this, that, and the other thing. And his

response was video games is interesting because

it's you in a room, just talking to yourself.

And he, off the side, we did not prompt him for

this at all. He said, I just get out of a session

of voicing Mr. Freeze for Batman Arkham City.

And we're like, can you do the voice for us?

He goes, do the voice, do the voice. Like, sadly,

I can't because of NDA. We edit that. I had Steve

edit that and put it online. I had no idea. Oh,

really? I don't even remember. Oh, yeah, you

edited this. I had no idea what was going on.

I knew you'd talk to him, but I had no idea.

See, I was working and I get out of work and

then later that night somebody listened to the

episode and then it popped up on Joystick .com

and Kotaku and IGN and it started popping up

everywhere and we made it I was like, um What

what just happened and and I I was reading it

and it says, you know on the geek cast radio

network Maurice LaMarche said that he's playing

Mr. Freeze in Arkham City. And I was like, what?

And then I like message Mike and I'm like, did

you see what's going on here? And I was like

everywhere. It's funny. Like, oh, my God, it's

I'm dead. We're never going to get another interview

ever again. I'm like, oh, my God, I have to call

his agent. Oh, my God, I have to email him. Oh,

my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh,

my God. I'm like, the brain is going to come.

He's gonna turn me into a pea in the middle of

July I was like He's gonna own Davey and me You

have a wife or a girlfriend because I'm gonna

find her and I'm gonna hurt her are you gonna

do that to either call you on the phone? Sorry,

but no no yeah, I can celebrities man. They freaked

me out They freaked me out. I mean I've met a

couple and that are like after like the initial

shock I go through I can like you know roll with

it, but in terms of for a show I don't think

I have the the professionalism. I would say to

get through it we use that's why we give it to

Matt cuz Matt has met a bunch of he's interviewed

a couple celebrities and Done a great job and

like I've been like listening back to him. I'm

like, how the hell did you not freak out that

that's Listen, I think he was he he interviewed.

Um It's his name Bob. The the the guy that does

the horrible movies late night, but Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah not movie Bob. No, no, no the guy

the the Joe Bob Joe Bob Briggs And I'm like,

I remember that when I was, he's been doing that

since I've been like 10 years old. So I can only

imagine like sitting there like talking to that

guy. I'm like, man, how did you get through?

And he just sounds so calm. I was like, I couldn't

be that calm. I was like, yeah, and I don't want

to ever have that. I wouldn't have nothing to

post if that was my interview with me hyperventilating.

Well, like we've talked to quite a few different

people and some of my favorite, like the one

that I was just like, Like holy crap was like

David Kay, and I've gotten to talk to him twice

which has been awesome right and like Ian James

Coralette like Beast Wars actors and right I've

gotten the chance to talk to Rob Paulson John

Delancey Kevin Conroy Lauren Lester Kevin Conroy,

I don't know what would happen. I would probably

wake up in a prison cell Like I'd be like oh,

what did I do? What did I what happened? I blacked

out That one was pretty epic to be honest like

and we we got some like pretty down -to -earth

pretty pretty good conversation with him and

Lauren Lester for that matter and Rob and Neil

Ross like those guys were pretty much class acts

like on the Yeah, the show like that. That was

awesome One at one of the podcasts I had to take

a long time to edit was the the John Delancey

one And it was just because there was a lot of

awkward pauses in between things Right because

it was me and Kevin kind of running it and Mike

was recording the episode like on mute and we're

talking to him and then We would get like a couple

of one or two word answers that occasionally.

I'm like I have to edit this later You're talking

to you're talking to Q so it's like so we were

like we were nervous like as it was because we're

talking to Q and And we're like hey, you know

blah blah blah We're just like bringing up part

of his IMDB thing and he's like, yeah, I did

that like And I was like, okay, he is cute like

He's a big guy I've seen He he those type of

guys seem like they're just so like Not affected

by the effect they have on people like he seems

like he doesn't really Not say care, but he doesn't

know how much that character influenced so many

freaking people Well, I like Kevin Connery is

that that that for me like he is my Batman. So

This is the embodiment of my childhood next to

me I would be like free I would literally black

out if I met Kevin Connery or or god forbid Mark

Hamill I don't know what the fuck I think we'd

all lose it if we met Mark Hamill I've met two

two hours of conversations on two different subjects.

Okay. All right. I'm finally done with Star Wars

Mark Hamill now. Let's get into Joker I would

just love to sit there and just argue with him

and joker to joker voice. Oh my god, dude, don't

look Mark able to do joker to joker with me.

I mean, this would be fantastic I in the closest

I'm ever gonna get to that is like getting to

do two different character voices on the the

podcast that I'm the the kids radio program I'm

on like it's I Actually did physically get to

argue with myself in multiple scenes as different

characters. So that was great They were like,

okay, dude, you're, you're nuts. You, you have

to be recorded separately on different tracks

so I can edit this later. They're like, cause

I don't, they're like, you're flipping in so

quickly on these different voices. Like I, I

can't separate them and get better takes out

of different things. It's like that. It's like

that old Frank Welker story that Dan Gilvizan

and everybody else tells about how Frank Welker

was doing two different voices at the same time.

And the engineer was like, no, we got to go back.

Somebody overlapped. And they're like, no, it's

just Frank. Oh, OK. It's just Frank talking to

himself. OK, we got it. Frank literally having

a conversation with himself. Well, and the funny

thing was is I've done this before. I used to

practice when I worked at the car lot. I used

to do like four characters arguing amongst each

other. And they were usually like Megatron, Starscream,

Scourge, and like Gollum. And so I would just

sit there and just argue back and forth. And

so I was pretty practiced at it. And what's funny

is when I was reading the scripts for this specific

season of the show, I was doing I got a regular

character that's just my regular voice and then

I was doing like a Beast Wars Megatron ish voice

and then I stumbled onto somebody else's lines

like without even thinking about it and just

created a voice on the spot and just started

talking in all three and they're like they're

like those aren't your lines dude and I was like

oh Sorry got carried away there. Yeah So All

right What advice do you have for new and as

well as veteran podcasters in the art of podcasting

if? advice hmm If it's a chore Don't make it

a chore because it's gonna come out in your it's

gonna come out in the show to me Like I say when

we do the show To me, it's joy. It's a lot of

work But to me, it's a, you hear this all the

time. It's a labor of love, but literally is

a labor of love where I'm like, once I, if I

make a show and I put together and I listened

back and it's like really good, I'm like, ah,

it's satisfying. Don't make it a chore make it

something you love put your use it as an outlet

for love Not for God. I got to get up and do

this thing and it goes go It's always you can

all for me. I don't know. Maybe I got some weird

power I can always tell when somebody's like

don't what doesn't want to be there very like,

you know be enthusiastic about your product because

if I'm a listener Want the host to be enthusiastic.

I don't want them to be I got other stuff to

do That that is the rub always make it fun make

it make it you're you're creating something so

enjoy the love of that that's such you know to

me that is what keeps me going on this show is

because every time i do it and sometimes i have

shows that are better than others like oh that

show wasn't that great but i can improve it on

this way but it's always fun for me because i'm

creating something the out of nothing there's

no there's no uh yesterday this idea wasn't here

and now it's now it exists forever and in the

in the ether of the internet until the internet

gets destroyed by you know Corona virus or something.

But yeah, it's essentially I I always stress

to everybody make sure if it's if it's something

you love it's not work It'll come through through

your your show if you love it, then we will love

it, too Absolutely, so where can the people find

your show simplistic reviews net Where everything

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in or any of that stuff around there Steve any

final thoughts comments questions before we before

I close it out No, I just I want to thank you

DJ for taking the times to hang out with us here

pleasure as always Yes, sir. Always a pleasure

to have you on the show. I have you on my show

and always a pleasure to be on your show. Steve

has been like on our show slowly, like quietly

slurking in our show. Steve is stalking the simplistic

reviews. He's always like, what is that voice?

Oh, that's that Steve somewhere. There's a little

hint of Steve always in the show. When he broke

out the Elmo, I'm like, I've known you for X

number of years and how the hell have I not known

you've been able to do Elmo. I had never, I had

never heard him do Elmo ever. He goes, I could

do an Elmo. I'm like, okay, let me hear it. Perfect.

I'm done. Finish the segment for me. There was

a lot of fun though doing Elmo as a mob boss.

Doing Elmo. Elmo is on in that sketch is based

off of Al Capone. So I wrote him as Al Capone.

Well it is funny because I can get into his headspace

of Elmo. Like I can get into Megatron's headspace

and get into the Joker's, I can get into Gollum's

and I can get into like Elmo's pretty much effortlessly.

Like I know exactly their cadence and how they

talk and like how to manipulate sentences. So

it's pretty funny when I get to do that. He got

into Elmo's headspace. as Al Capone that's the

greatest thing ever oh boy come over here bird

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