The Secret Origins Podcast
Flash and Substance, Dead Reckoning, and Patriot Act

About this Episode
The Secret Origins Podcast, Episode 22. Hello,
and welcome to the 22nd episode of the Secret
Origins Podcast. We have been going unlimited
for a while now. I am your host, TF John Mike,
and joining me is Lupus Convoy. Hello, sir. Hello,
how are you? Yes, I'm pretty good, pretty good.
Tonight, the Secret Origins Podcast is being
Ustreamed live. So, yeah, there's probably going
to be a lot more wackiness in this episode. So
what's going on with you, sir? I'm snowed in.
I actually went out in the snow. There's not
that much snow here, but the parking lots and
back roads are all really, really icy still.
Yeah, no, we didn't even bother with that. We're
like, yeah, two feet of snow. Well, we didn't
get that much snow. Yeah, Massachusetts always
gets hit that hard, but here in Louisville, Kentucky,
we didn't get that much, but still the roads
are horrendous. Yes, with me, I've been launching
new podcast ideas, all kinds of good stuff like
that there. That's pretty much it. I'm still
trying to find that three -pack JLU 2010 Batman,
Joker, and Grey Ghost based off of the Batman
the Animated Series designs. Let's see, what
else, what else, what else? I can't think of
anything else, so we are going to get into some
episodes. Gotta visualize. Visualize? What the
heck does that mean? If I don't visualize a mortgage
payment soon, the wife will have me bagging groceries
for a living. She's always been an ice queen,
that one. Captain Boomerang, you old son of a
wallaby. Mirror Master, Captain Cold. Does me
good to see the old faces. Even the trickster.
We heard you were out early. Time off for good
behavior, you might say. I cut me a good deal.
Got my sentence down to five years. And now they
tell me I'm reformed. Reformed? The man who robbed
an entire fleet of armored cars in one month?
Now, that was a crime. Yeah, too bad the Flash
busted you and you didn't get the chance to spend
a dime of it. And you know what else? Well, at
least he didn't make me eat my own laser kaleidoscope.
That's a rumor. A complete exaggeration. And
anyway, it was a laser pistol. It's like that
time I stole an entire train while it was moving.
The way people tell it, you'd think the Flash
shoved my coal gun. You know, I've had him on
the ropes, too. Yeah, that's the way I heard
it. So, we're the hardest men in town. What'll
that be, boys? Arnold Palmer. Cherry cola. Decaf
soy latte. Milk. My ulcer's been acting up. The
hardest men in town, and we all have something
in common. Bilateral symmetry. First up today
is Flash and Substance. In a bar where all of
Central City's rogues seem to hang out for four
of Flash's enemies share grievances over drinks,
lamenting how Flash has always foiled their various
capers, Mirror Master, Captain Cold, the Trickster,
and Captain Boomerang. As a final insult, Central
City has declared the next day Flash Appreciation
Day. Wow, so Flash is actually a fad. Holy crap,
I didn't notice that until now. Anyway, and dedicated
a museum to him. They decide to work together
to kill him. The next day, Wally West spends
the morning at his day job, a forensic science
technician for the Central City Crime Lab, reminding
his supervisor that he's taking half day while
he ducks into the closet and teleports up to
the watchtower. Seeing all of his original seven
founding members are on assignment, except for
Batman, Flash drops hopeful hints about the museum
opening, and Batman reluctantly agrees to show
up, much to Orion's disgust. While making the
rounds in Central City, Flash hears a little
girl crying for help inside an abandoned disco
club. The girl proves to be an illusion, and
the disco has been booby -trapped by Mirror Master.
With lasers shooting from the disco ball. Oh,
man. I would have preferred laser beams on a
frickin' shark. Flash escapes the trap, obviously.
Flash receives the key to the city from the mayor,
but the ceremony is interrupted by a barrage
of explosive boomerangs. Flash disposes of them
safely, but then giant rocket -propelled boomerang
snatches him up and heads for a mountain. Flash
tears out its circuitry, causing it to crash.
Batman and Orion find him, telling him there's
a plot to kill him. Flash says he still plans
to attend the ceremonies. After Captain Boomerang's
plot fails, Trickster proposes an elaborate but
deadly prank involving 400 cases of fake dog
vomit and a wall of metal spikes. Okay. Yikes.
It's the original Trickster. You gotta go with
it. I know. I know. Ignoring him, the three rogues
decide to ambush Flash together at the museum.
Flash leads them to the bar where the Trickster
is moping. Orion and Batman interrogate him in
their usual tough style, but Flash takes a more
humane approach. He convinces Trickster that
he needs psychiatric care, and Trickster agrees
to tell about the other's plan if Flash promises
to come visit him in the hospital. As they leave,
Trickster cheerfully agrees to turn himself in
as soon as he has finished his drink, much to
Orion's bafflement. At the museum opening, Batman
and Orion stake out the outside. Batman reporting
that he has removed all mirrors from the inside.
Orion wonders aloud how a buffoon like Flash
can be considered a hero or deserve membership
in the League. Batman doesn't give him a reply.
Flash is signing autographs inside. Linda Park,
an infatuated TV reporter, slips him her phone
number. He is so distracted that he just signs
it and hands it back to her. Before starting
their on -air interview, Linda checks her makeup
in the hand mirror, out of which Boomerang, Captain
Cole, and Mirror Master burst. The crowd flees
while Batman and Orion rush inside. Mirror Master
fires dozens of mirrors from his arsenal, into
one of which Linda falls. Flash follows her in,
and they are both trapped in an alternate dimension
with millions and millions of mirrors. That might
take years for them to find the right one that
lets them out again. During the fight in the
museum, Batman fires a flare into a mirror, marking
the exit for Flash. As he and Linda return to
the museum, he, Batman, and Orion defeat the
rogues. In a TV interview, Flash reports that
everyone is safe. Linda laments that the museum
has been destroyed and pours out her... and duration
for Flash. Embarrassed, Wally covers with a joke.
Hey, at least I got to be on TV, and you know
how much I like that. Orion realizes that the
Speedster is actually quite the worthy warrior,
and that he only acts the part of the fool to
deal with emotional stress and trauma that goes
along with superheroics. Though the museum has
sustained heavy damage, Flash shrugs it off.
Museums can be rebuilt. What matters most to
Wally West is that no one was hurt, and the good
guys won in the end. Now for notes. Super villains
have lives, too. Visualize? What does that mean?
If I don't visualize a mortgage payment, my wife's
going to have me doing dishes. Wally the Forensic
Scientist. I think this is some sort of callback
to Barry Allen. I'm not sure, though. I think
so. Batman. They did say they were combining
the different flashes together. Yeah, they did.
They took a bit of every flash, but it's specifically
WALL -E for the most part. Batman. What time?
Orion. It's not Black Tie, is it? Flying boomerang
ship. Sweet. I laughed my ass off at that. The
giant flying boomerang? Yeah. I can't believe
we've all got to chip in for that. Yeah, really.
The flash rings are most definitely a callback
to Barry. It's wicked cool to use, but it's such
a pain to put the uniform back in. Yeah, it's
kind of hard to get the costume back inside of
it. A snot -slash -acid gun. Oh, wow. That's
strange. You'd think that'd be a little oxymoronic.
Yeah, you'd think so. So, does he and the Joker,
like, swap things back and forth? Um... Because,
I mean, it seems like they'd be great buddies.
Well, the trickster obviously is a much... What's
the word? Less psychotic than the Joker ever
was. No, I mean, he's pretty much toy man for
Flash as far as doing all this stuff. And it's
good to note that this is the last appearance
or voice role. for Mark Hamill in the DCAU. That's
not chronologically, though, obviously, but this
was the last role that he voiced for DCAU, was
the trickster, which is very cool. Mirror Master
cursing was hilarious. When he got in the, after
he got broken inside the mirror and they swept
him up and put him in a baggie. And as they close
the bag up, he's like, you just know he's cursing.
Yep. And I did not notice this at all whatsoever
until I looked at the credits. Wesley Wyndham
Price voices Mirror Master. Alexis Denizoff from
Buffy and Angel voiced Mirror Master. Really?
Yep. Wow. Yeah. What do you got for this one?
Okay, so if there's any group of villains out
there that are better, are more known than the
whole Bat gallery, I guess you could say, it
has to be the rogues. They've got their own comics,
story arcs. They're treated like their own, basically
like the anti -heroes. They're just there to
steal the world. They have their own code of
ethics when it comes to the supervillain superhero
thing. They don't kill. That's their big thing.
They don't kill. So I love the fact that we get
a rogue episode. This is another rogue episode.
Honestly, I mean, yes, we did have Task Force
X, but you also have this, even though it centers
on Flash. It shows more about his rogues, and
it's not just... That's one of the things that
I liked, the fact that they got an additional
13 episodes for Justice League Unlimited. Because,
I mean, throughout the entire five seasons run
of Justice League, you've had Superman's villains,
you've had Batman's... Some of Batman's villains,
obviously, not the majority of them since the
fucking Bat Embarkment was going on. You've had
Wonder Woman's villains, Hot Girl's villains,
GL's villains. And then, of course, now with
Legion of Doom in Season 5, you've got pretty
much every single villain in the entire cartoon
series that it has ever been. I was kind of shocked
to see Dr. I didn't mention this in the last
episode, but I was kind of shocked to see Dr.
Destiny in with the rest of the villains. Dr.
Polaris and all these really strange characters
popping up left and right. Yep. Yes, very much
so. What notes did you have for this one, for
flesh and substance? The fact that the rogues
give a human spin on the supervillains. So they're
sitting down, they're like, we're the hardest
men in town. And then the waitress comes over
and Captain Cold's like, oh, I'll have the milk.
My ulcer's kicking up. I know. You know what
we all have in common? Bilateral symmetry. Okay,
so we get to see Wally, and he's not an idiot.
I love how they actually portray him as somebody
that actually knows what he's talking about when
it comes to the forensic sciences. He's not some
schmuck that just sits there and makes one -liners
and has no job. Yeah, and I think... Since Divided
We Fall, they've wanted to make up for Wally.
I mean, Divided We Fall, really, they made up
for not even using Wally in that previous season
for the most part. But I think here, because
it was the final season, they wanted to hit everybody's,
you know, all the original seven have stories
in this. GL more so in line with Hawkgirl's story.
But it's one of those things where they really
hit on Flash, and they got the homages they wanted,
and it played out really, really well. What else?
Oh, we had a comment about Waller, which, yay,
Waller! Beth's being guilt -tripped by the Flash.
Oh, I know it. And I was like, is Wally seriously
trying to guilt trip Bruce? Really? I don't know.
And he did. He succeeded. Oh, man. Yeah. Let's
see. Disco kills. Yeah. Taking turns is dumb.
Let's all do it at once. I don't know if anybody
else caught it, but there's a kid flash. costume
cameo in the museum. Yep. So how long has Wally
been at the job? I'm not... Who was the original
Flash, then? Yeah, I'm not really sure. And then
5 ,000 rotten eggs and a chainsaw. It's like,
what exactly are you going to do with 5 ,000
rotten eggs and a chainsaw? Do we really want
to know? I mean... No. It's... Kind of like the
Nina Kimberley moment where you hear nothing
but whisper, whisper, whisper, and then I grab
a garden hose and whisper, whisper, whisper.
And it makes the whole horde of barbarians go,
oh my god, and we're sorry, we're sorry. Yeah,
I like the trickster. What I really liked about
this episode was... The fact that, like you said
earlier about Flash actually being smart and
doing the whole thing, what I also like is we're
getting to see him in his own element in Central
City, however Wally West does his superheroing
when he's not a part of the League, and we see
that he's well -liked. He knows almost everybody
in the damn town, and he actually sits there
and talks to the trickster. And I really like
that. Different types of approaches based on
the different villains. You know, yeah, he's
going to go beat the crap out of, you know, Captain
Cold, and he's sitting there and having the witty
repartee with Mirror Master, and Mirror Master's
like, it's going to take you a minute to come
up with a good line. Just die. But when it comes
to the trickster, it's like, you haven't been
taking your meds. Okay, after your beer, you're
turning yourself in, right? Oh, yep, you caught
me again, Flash. Yep. Yeah. It was just awesome.
I love that. And then the boomerang off. Captain
Boomerang versus Bruce, who's there with his
little batter. Yep. Boomer versus batter. That
is all I've got for this one. Yeah. So we are
going to move on. This humble one begs your forgiveness.
But no outsider is permitted in the temple of
Nanda Parbat. That's cute, kid. Get out of the
way or I'll spank you. This would also not be
permitted. Little Bruce Lee's got your number.
Lucky thing you've got us for backup. This humble
one would not presume to fight you alone. Now
things are getting interesting. Take them down.
You despise me, right? Bizarro hate Luthor. I'd
do anything for him. Good. I mean bad. Anyway,
take care of those monks. of time. Next up, we
have Dead Reckoning. On Grodd's orders, a team
from the Legion of Doom attacks the temple of
Nanda Parbat to steal the soul of the temple,
containing the psychic remains of thousands of
former monks. Deadman, who is in conference with
the Master, tries to stop them but is exercised
by Tala and is helpless to prevent Devil Ray
from killing the Master. Deadman goes to the
Watchtower and possesses Superman's body to tell
them about the disaster. Batman vouches for Deadman,
having met him before while helping to solve
his murder. Batman is also one of the Master's
former pupils. While puzzling over what Grodd
is planning to do, Deadman slash Superman says
he can feel the psychic presence of the soul,
but can't narrow it down any further than Africa.
Realizing that Grodd has returned to Gorilla
City, Batman radios Solovar, who tells him that
the city is under attack at the moment. Batman,
Wonder Man, and the possessed Superman arrive
outside the city. Dead Man leaves Superman's
body to slip through the protective shield and
find someone to possess in order to shut it down.
The Leaguers fight their way into the city, and
Dead Man possesses Wonder Woman in order to attack
Devil Ray, but decides not to kill him. Inside,
Grodd and Luthor places the soul, which Grodd
describes as an exotic power source, into the
force field generator, creating a device powerful
enough to send out a planet -wide energy field.
Luther assumes that Grodd plans to extend a mind
control signal over the Earth, but instead Grodd
reveals his master plan is to rewrite human DNA
and transform humanity into giant apes. The signal
reaches out and transforms the Justice Leaguers,
but they manage to destroy the soul, turning
themselves back into humans and restoring the
monks at Nanda Parbat to life, including the
master. Devil Ray sneaks in and aims his weapon
at Wonder Woman. Dead Man instead takes over
Batman's body, grabs a gun, and shoots Devil
Ray, knocking him backward into an open panel
and electrocuting him to death. When Batman regains
control of his body, he is disgusted at having
any part in killing someone with a gun. At the
Legion of Doom's headquarters, Luthor is disgusted
that Grodd had such a stupid master plan, as
we all were. On the grounds that Grodd's master
plan, one, didn't work, and two, was simply silly,
Luthor stuns Grodd during a council and declares
himself the new leader. Back at the master's
temple, Deadman finds the master alive and well.
He tells Deadman that killing Devil Ray upset
the balance of life in the universe, and Deadman
will be trapped on Earth until he atones for
his sin. Your thoughts, good sir? Um... So Devil
Ray recovered from the Wonder Thighs attack,
boo. Yes. Little Bruce Lee has your number. So,
it's never actually explained how this happens,
but Grodd freed Tala from the mirror that she
got trapped in by Faust. Back in the balance.
Yep. What am I doing in Africa? Justice Apes,
unite! I loved Wonder Woman's, oh, come on! I
know. I know. Hey, no, Batman can't use a gun.
Well, it wasn't him. I know, but still, it's
the fact that, you know. I mean, I get what they
were doing there with Dead Man possessing his
body, but still. I just... And actually, oh,
holy shit. What? I'm going to have to go back
and screen cap that, because it reminds me of
The Rebirth, Batman Beyond The Rebirth Part 1,
where they show Bruce Wayne's last adventure
as Batman. and he ends up having some sort of
beginning stages of a heart attack, and he has
to basically hold a gun. His whole arm is shaking,
but he holds a gun like this, and this guy is
shaking at a criminal until the criminal runs
away. So this, wow. I did not realize that until
now. This scene of Batman holding the gun is
almost as similar as that. Wow, I did not notice
that. And then Lex takes over. I was going to
wait for a few weeks, but nah. Curse your sudden
but inevitable betrayal. What about you? What
do you got for this one? Oh, okay. So I will
say first off, oh, my God, it's Live Man. And
for people that don't get that, Dead Man, the
dead person in the comics, currently has the
white lantern ring of life. And he's back alive.
So the big joke is, he's not dead man, he's live
man. He has no abilities whatsoever, but to walk
around and be human. Okay. Go live man. I love
the fact that he, Boston Bran, has got like a
Boston accent. Yeah. Honestly. I wonder if, you
know, they referenced that Batman once helped
him solve his murder. I wonder if that was ever
an episode of Batman the Animated Series. I don't
know. I don't know either, and I don't feel like
looking it up at this point in time. What else
do we got? I've got... So, the sudden appearance
of a character that we haven't seen before. Her
name's Rampage, and she looks like a butch, bulldike
version of Starfire. Yeah, that's kind of true.
It was scary, actually, when I saw her. I was
like, what the hell? We get Bizarro back, which
is very confusing when they're talking, and I'm
like, why are they going back to normal talking?
They didn't go back to normal talking. Oh, they
did. Did they? Yep, they talked in Bizarro talk,
and then they talked in normal English. I was
like, wait, what? And then the Master going,
this is not the way to die for me, and blocking
all the gunfire. And then they just blow up the
arch over him. I'm like, well, that's the end
for you. I'm sorry. Well, yeah, but still, all
of Devil Ray's little stingers things there,
that was kind of an awesome scene, though, seeing
the Master repel all that. Oh, and it was like,
oh, look, it's Aang versus everybody. We're crossing
the streams here, folks. We've got Avatar. Let's
see. Okay, so Goldface showing up. Holy shit,
Goldface. Obscure green lantern -like villain.
And you know who he's the rogue of? Oh, no. He's
Guy Gardner's rogue, baby. Yes, I threw it in
this episode, too. But Guy Gardner is nowhere
near... Guy Gardner is nowhere near this cartoon.
Comic. He's in the comic section. Cartoon. This
is cartoon. This is not comic. I love the fact
that Lex, when he was turned into a monkey, hairless
ape. I should be surprised. Yeah, you're right.
I didn't notice that. So, obligatory, okay. The
good guys won. Obligatory. Oh, look, here's Lex.
Sudden and inevitable betrayal. Oh, that's so
funny. We got to see some lasso action. You know,
I thought she was going to... When she used the
lasso, I thought she was going to grab somebody
and make them tell them the truth. Well, she's
using him like a flail. Well, yeah, I know that
now, but when I first saw this episode, I thought
that's what she was going to do. I was thinking,
but no. She smash. Yes, Wonder Woman smash. And
then at the end, Tala, you whore. I had great
respect for you, and, you know, you seem like
the very modern woman, very self -centered, very
controlled, and very, you know, empowered. And
now you're just trying to sleep with anything
that moves. So what were you doing with Waller?
Wait, what? If she's going from, like, boss to
boss, you know. Oh, no, wait a second here. Wait
a second here. Hold the phone. Because Waller
was the one in charge. No, there's no, no, no,
no, no. I'm just putting that out there. There's
no way. Are you sure? Yeah. Are you sure? Yes.
There's absolutely no way that Tala and Waller,
there's no way that Tala and Amanda Waller were
lesbian lovers. No way. Oh, I didn't say anything
about lovers. I think that Waller might have
just taken advantage of her. I don't think so
because we didn't really get to see a lot with
Tala at first in Cadmus. And then, of course,
once the balance happened and she got stuck in
the mirror, we didn't get to see a lot of her
then. So I think Grodd somehow – and I know this
isn't the case, but I always thought that Grodd
somehow planted some sort of mind control on
her or whatever. I don't know. But again, she
– She is moving up in the world. Even though
she's a $2 ho, she's moving up in the world from
bestiality to actual humans. Hey. Anyway. Okay,
yeah, the de -evolution ray, I just have to say
from a scientific point of view, that's BS. To
bring it to a common ancestor and then re -evolving
them, that's not a de -evolution ray. What's
genius is the fact that Wonder Woman punches
the thing, punches the stream, and she's like,
uh, that didn't work. What am I going to do now?
Come on, like Superman and Supergirl can sit
there and punch laser beams and send it back.
Really? Mm -hmm. That is all I have for this
episode, good sir. All right, we are moving on.
You look well, General. The past few months have
been good to you. Mrs. Waller, due respect, this
reassignment is a joke. Never thought I'd become
a desk drone. I can't help you there. Langley
all but scrapped Project Cadmus and insisted
on your transfer. We're lucky we're not all in
jail. Look, the only mistake we made was trusting
Luthor. Wade, you know better than to dwell on
the past. I'm talking about right now. The Justice
League is still the single greatest threat to
global security. I used to believe that, too.
But remember, we used to say the same about the
Soviets. Our enemy is never as evil as we imagine.
And maybe we're never quite as good. Nuts. Don't
tell me the bleeding hearts in Congress got to
you. I'd eat them alive. You would, too. You've
got some onions, Amanda. Then listen to me. I'm
not the League's greatest fan, but their intentions
are good. I can work with them. What if you're
wrong, though? Turns out the metahumans aren't
on the side of the angels. We won't have any
way to defend ourselves. Look what happened last
year. Superman walked into Cadmus and tossed
our best men like a salad. Oh, for heaven's sake.
What's to stop him from doing it again? They're
all orbiting us with a space weapon, supposedly
decommissioned. That's a much bigger threat than
the Russians ever were. If we'd rolled over like
this with the Soviet Union, given up our nukes...
We'd all be living under a red flag. Yes, ma
'am. You better believe it. After all our work,
what did Cadmus accomplish? You get a reprimand,
I'm pushing pencils. And the League gets another
base here on Earth, that Metro Tower. When one
side loses ground and the other side gains, that
isn't a truce, it's a surrender. It's a different
world, General. Learn to live in it. And finally
up today for episode 22, we have Patriot Act.
Kill me now, please! Bam. In a flashback, depicts
World War II mission of the famous spy smasher
who invades a secret access laboratory and steals
a syringe containing an experimental super soldier
serum. Moving into the present, we see that General
Eiling, former military liaison for Cadmus, is
reviewing the 60 -year -old case file. Eiling...
dines with former colleague Amanda Waller, who
has greatly softened in her anti -Justice League
stance since the Lex Luthor Brainiac affair.
She advises Eiling that the times are changing,
and strongly suggests that the old soldier should
change with them. Eiling is unconvinced, feeling
that metahumans can't be trusted, and that the
Justice League didn't disarm their fusion cannon.
and decides to take action. He sneaks into military
installation and steals the old Captain Nazi
serum. After injecting it into his body, what?
Captain Nazi. That's what it's... I know. The
file was called... I actually can't believe they
got away with putting that on the file, though.
Um... After injecting it into his body, Eiling
transforms... What? What? What? Did you say something?
Nope. Okay. After injecting it into his body,
Eiling transforms into a monstrous brute of a
man with fangs and gray skin, vowing revenge
against Superman. Eiling springs to the air with
incredible superhuman strength and heads for
the one place he figures he can find the Man
of Steel. Meanwhile, aboard the Watchtower, Mr.
Terrific has a mission for some of the Justice
League Reservists. Stripe, Stargirl, Vigilante,
Shining Knight, and Green Arrow, are dispatched
to Metropolis to cover what is normally a job
for Superman. But Quintet assumes a public relations
duty aboard a parade float paying tribute to
Metropolis's heroes, the police and fire departments,
much to Stargirl's chagrin. The spectators are
at first disappointed by Superman's absence,
but soon begin to warm to his non -powered teammates
thanks to Vigilante's knack for showmanship.
However, Eiling disrupts the parade with a thunderous
impact and sends the crowd into a panic. At first,
Stripe is able to engage him, but even the Justice
League's powerful armor is no match for Eiling's
doomsday -level strength. Stargirl attacks with
little effect, and it is all Vigilante can do
to keep the bystanders safe with the help of
local children. Eiling bellows off for Superman
to face him, but instead he is faced by Green
Arrow, Vigilante, and the Shining Knight. Who'd
fare poorly against the powerhouse? Oh, Green
Arrow. To put it nicely. Well, yeah, you would
think that Green Arrow would fare a little bit
better, seeing as how he's more of a mainstream
leaguer than a reservist. But Green Arrow calls
the Watchtower for assistance. The only available
backups are the Crimson Avenger and Arrow's former
partner, Speedy, who corrected Arrow's initial
comment of X's sidekick upon arrival. Oh, God.
X partner! That's funny. But the new additions
are non -powered as well, and after a valiant
stay on the Avenger, Speedy, and Green Arrow.
Or knocked cold. The last remaining Justice Leaguer
is the day's shining knight who informs Eiling
that Superman is billions of miles away, saving
millions of alien lives from a planetary crisis.
Eiling is unimpressed and begins to taunt Sir
Justin. The former servant of King Arthur tries
to remind Eiling of a true warrior's honor and
the protection of the innocent at all costs,
but is quickly pounded unconscious. Eiling moves
to strike a crippling, perhaps killing blow to
the Shining Knight, but is halted by the parade's
spectators. An old woman admonishes Eiling for
the damage and terror he's caused. And when the
General tries to speak out against the super
-powered threat of the Justice League, he is
quickly reminded that the only superhuman being
from miles around is himself. Eiling acknowledges
the irony, but tries to remind the crowd that
the super beings cannot be trusted, and that
someday they would need someone like Eiling around.
He leaps away, and though they are battered and
bruised, the seven soldiers of the Justice League
are further appreciated for their efforts, and
they are initiated in the streets by the children
of Superman's home city. Oh, imitated. There
we go. Yeah, I blanked on that. Holy crap. I
have two notes for this. That's it. Okay, go
for it. Another boring episode. I was so bored
with this one. I like the fact that Waller shows
up again, albeit briefly. I like the fact that
we get more Nathan Fillion as vigilante speaking
out. But, yeah. And then he blew up his own motorcycle.
Do what you gotta do. Oh, man. Yeah. Patriot
Act, it's not... Trying to be nice here, but...
It's not up to the caliber of the last season?
No, not... I know what they were going for in
this season. They were going for the whole, you
know, much lighter, because obviously, let's
face it, Cadmus was very, very dark. That's being
nice. Huh? That's being nice. That was like adult
-level, like, Watchmen style. But... This episode
is so unnecessary. I mean, yeah, we get to kind
of see what, not really, we don't get to see
what eventually happens to Eiling after this,
but we kind of see him after the fact of Cadmus
is kind of gone and all that, but meh. What about
you? The question is, do we really need to know
anything about Eiling? No, not really. Yeah,
it was fine when he got his ass whooped by Batman,
who, again, not superpowered. But, yeah, like,
we didn't need to know anything about Eiling
whatsoever. Like, he could have just disappeared.
Gone to, like, Alaska or something. Yeah, that's
very true. So, all right. I'm not done yet. Oh,
you're not done yet? Oh, okay. Okay, I'm going
to tear this one apart. So we've got Captain
Nazi, right? Basically the Captain America, you
know, source. Uh -huh. He pumps himself up with
the chemical. And the same syringe. You know,
how many years later, 70 years later, and it's
still viable? Really, Eiling, you should know
better. The writers should know better. No. No.
No. So they get parade duty. Yay, that's kind
of suck, but hey, it gets their PR up. Hey, hey.
As always, it's great to see Star. And yeah,
she had powers without the staff originally,
but that was a belt. Yeah. Gabe, good to see
you. While we're back, and I kind of wonder,
like, is she really just trying to be the next
person to be the liaison for the Justice League?
So, Gabe, they took out the Shriners in the parade.
Yeah. So Speedy, of all random characters, Speedy?
Really? Mr. Drug Overdose Speedy? Or Arsenal,
or Red Archer, or whatever he was? Well, you
had to fit him in somewhere, and since you brought
in Green Arrow... No, they didn't have to put
in Speedy. They didn't have to bring in Speedy
at all. He was in there for less than five minutes,
dude. Still, annoying little shit. Don't like
him. Oh, so before the whole shebang, yay, they're
all human. I didn't know if that was an intentional
story point. Oh, hey, I think that's about all
I've got. Because the next page said, Tala, you
whore. Okay, yeah, let's move on then. I will
say, though, it was great to see a character
that was actually... standing up for the principles
of chivalry. Yeah. And not every other, like,
quasi -chivalry concept. Exactly, yeah. I'm sure
a lot of other SCA members would love this episode.
All right. We'll be back with the Outrona moments.
All right. I've become what I hate. I'll give
you that. But in the long run, you'll see I was
right. You'll see you need the likes of me to
protect you from them Don't worry, Sir Justin.
The 21st Century Doc's gonna have you back on
your feet by movie night. Hold. I have yet to
thank you. No need to thank me, son. You just
get better. The world still needs protecting,
you know. Come on, let's fight Justice League.
I'm Shining Light. No, I am. You're the stupid
monster. Ha, have at thee. Have a thing! Fine.
I don't care. I'm Vigilante. He's way cooler.
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