The Secret Origins Podcast

TSOP – Episode 18

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About this Episode

In the 18th episode TFG1Mike and Lupis Convoy return and get down to the League Business. This time around they talk about: The Balance, Double Date, Clash, Question Authority, and Hunters Moon a.k.a. Mystery in Space. We must apologize the DVD has the episodes out of order we should have talked about Hunters Moon before ...

The Secret Origins Podcast, Episode 18. The Secret

Origins Podcast Episode 18 This was a great idea,

Wally. I can't remember the last time we've had

a chance to catch up. Mostly my fault. I've been

pretty busy in Central City. I want to hear all

about it. I saw some of it on the news, but it's

not the same at... I'm sorry. I thought we were

having dinner tonight. Is it Tuesday? Silly me.

Making dinner plans with two beautiful women

on the same night. Uh -huh. We can do this another

time. Don't be ridiculous. We can all have a

meal together. It's a chance for us to get reacquainted.

Patch things up. Assuming we want to. Now there's

an example of exactly the kind of thing we're

not gonna do anymore. Right? I'm telling you.

Once we clear the air, everybody's gonna be pals

again. I always thought the reason you two don't

get along is that you're so much alike. Like

her? You weren't gonna eat that, were you? You

guys aren't even trying. You could at least talk

to each other. First up, we have the episode

called The Balance. In her workshop, Tala is

attempting to magically remove the Annihilator's

weaknesses. To wit, its tendency to shut down

in the absence of aggression. Her mentor, Felix

Faust... Oh, Christ. Now existing only as a disembodied

spirit, trapped in a mirror since she rescued

him from Tartarus, is looking over her shoulder.

When her latest attempt fails, he says he knows

the answer and tricks her into casting a spell

that frees Faust and traps her in his steed.

His spirit takes control of the Annihilator and

goes stomping out of Cadmus. Aboard the Watchtower,

Flash is trying to mend fences between Wonder

Woman and Shaira, but failing miserably. That's

kind of an understatement. Diana passes the infirmary.

She is surprised to see Etrigan, Dr. Fate, and

Zatanna all writhing under some invisible torture.

Wonder Woman returns to her quarters and finds

Hermes, messenger of the gods, with the message

that she is to return to Themyscira. Faust has

walked straight to the gates of Tartarus and

usurped Hades' throne in revenge for his betrayal.

As a result, the balance between Olympus and

Tartarus has been upset, hence the turmoil left

by the League. felt by the League's magic users.

By order of Zeus, Diana must restore it. That's

kind of a nice one, do it or die. Well, she's

basically... She doesn't have much of a choice

in the matter. Yeah. I'm just going to bring

up one of my four notes for this episode right

now, because the whole Hermes, Diana, exchange

is like, oh, you know, he gives her a scroll

for some goddess hooker or something or other.

I don't remember what it was. And then he reads

her the Zeus proclamation and she goes, so he's

telling me to go to. Yeah. I love that. That

was awesome. I'll go into that with my notes.

But anyway, back to the recap. After examination

of her own weapons, Diana concludes that she

needs Shaira's nth metal mace, which disrupts

magic. She sneaks into Shaira's quarters to steal

it, but Shaira catches her. Swallowing her pride,

Diana asks to borrow it, but Shaira insists on

coming with her. Together they reach Themyscira,

where Hippolyta objects to Diana breaking her

exile. Diana says that she must enter the gates.

Before she goes, Hippolyta touches Diana's tiara

unlocking her armor's full power. Wow, guys,

a gay guy that can't stay tight. Tiara. It's

like she hit you in the head with the tiara.

Pretty much. She's Sailor Moon? What? Inside

they face many demons, but they are repelled

when they see Shaira believing her to be an angel.

She only remarks, if we're lucky, they'll all

be that dumb. Inside Tartarus, the two women

capture a demon, Abnegazer, who leads them, under

the influence of Diana's golden lasso, to Hades'

library, and he advises them that you really,

really shouldn't go in there, where Faust is

happily immersed in tomes of ancient forbidden

knowledge. When they confront him, he sends them

plummeting down a hole in the floor with a casual

spell. In a snowy region of Tartarus, they find

Hades chained to a rock and being tormented by

vultures. They free him, and the three of them

return to the library to attack. In the ensuing

battle, the library is largely destroyed, but

Shira's mace proves to be capable of hurting

the Annihilator. Faust seizes Shira and begins

crushing her to death, but Diana takes up the

mace and strikes a devastating blow. The armor

is destroyed, and a tiny portion of... Faust's

soul is left drifting. Hades picks it up and

announces his plans to make it his hobby. He

bids the ladies farewell, calling Diana my child.

When she objects, Hades claims that he and Hippolyta

work together in sculpting her from clay. Shaira

assures Diana that Hades is lying, and she can

use her lasso on him. Diana says she doesn't

need to, she already knows who her real family

is. Returning to Themyscira, They are welcomed

by a cheering crowd. Despite the law of the gods,

Hippolyta rescinds Diana Exile at last, stating

that she will face the gods when it comes to

it. As they are welcomed to a farewell banquet,

Diana and Shaira make peace. They may not be

friends, but they are both content with being

teammates. Okay, so let's hear your other three

like him. No. And you know what the sad thing

is? You know what the sad thing is? Freddy Krueger

plays one of the worst characters in the DCAU.

He voiced Felix Faust. Robert Englund voiced

Felix Faust. I thought that was him. Yep. Yep.

And my last one was, it came up earlier, you

had mentioned Flash. Why is it that I'm thinking

that Flash is Holden? It was horrible. It was

painful to watch. I know, but it's like the first

thing that popped into my mind when I saw that

scene was Chasing Amy, and I love that movie.

So I just don't know why it popped into my head

with that scene. That's right. I had lunch with

two ladies. At the same time. Oh, God. Flash

is awesome, but jeez. What do you got? Okay.

So Flash being Mr. Smooth, we've already covered

that. The comment between Diana and Shayera when

they're having dinner and Shayera says the pasta's

really good and Diana's like, well, it's the

sauce. There's no sauce on that pasta. I know.

And shells. That's it. We see Etrigan again,

but sadly he's not a baby. Actually, I think

it's good that he's not a baby because if they

showed baby Etrigan being tortured by this whole

magic disruption thing, that would be kind of...

They could have him going crazy and flying around

in circles or something. Well, yeah, but they

were all strapped down, though. That's the problem.

He would have been in a giant, magical baby crate.

Yeah. You're reaching there, dude. Okay. There

was a scene where Diana grabbed her, pressed

her earring, and the only thing that jumped in

my head was, shows over synergy from Jem. Yeah,

that's true. The gods are decreeing stuff all

the time around here, ma 'am. Okay, so something

that did rub me the wrong way is the whole, oh,

look, I'm an angel. You're kind of mixing your

theological mythos there a bit. Well, true, but,

I mean, to pull one over on the demons, it was

kind of cool. I actually liked it. The demon,

though? that we did get a name for, I thought

like Smeagol, is that you? Um, the comment of

magic lasso. Who knew? Okay, fine. Don't tell

me. Oh, um, we had some really asymmetrical hair

look going on from, it was either Diana or Shira

and it looked really good in comparison to what

we had before. I think it was a Shira. Yeah.

Um, I cried when I saw that library get trashed.

Like, seriously, I was like, no! I could be so

happy there. You'd be happy surrounded by skull

and bones in a library? Ew. Oh, come on, dude,

I'm a Halloween freak. Oh, okay. Okay, so the

teleport that, um, the teleportation that...

Hades had made me think of the dead scream attack

from Sailor Moon, what Sailor Pluto does. Very

epic, very wind, very quiet. So Hippolyta's standing

up for the gods. I'm pretty sure, like... Oh,

forgive me. Hera would forgive her for just,

you know, the whole bringing her back. I will

say, however, though, Hermes was spot on. Like,

I love that. We've had, like, really crappy Hades

and Ares. No, we've got Hermes that's, like,

the sly, witty, like, getting it on with every

girl that he can think of. And, you know, that

fit, Mr. Messenger of the Gods. That is Hermes

to a T. So my hat and my pagan heart goes out

to these guys for actually pulling something

good for once. This is the last time that we

really see a lot of The gods. Diana's. Well,

the gods and Themyscira and Hippolyta. The only

other real mythological type of stories that

they do is when we get to Hawkman and Hawkgirl

over in season five. So there is one other thing

that I need to bring up. Yes. How is Tala going

to explain this? I mean, you can just tell when

she's in the mirror. She's just like, ah, shit.

Yep. I don't know. How is she going to explain

it? Oh, and who does she have to explain it to?

Come on. It's not good. Amanda Waller, yep. And

she'd be the type just to shatter the glass,

too. Well, of course, you know, Tala isn't just

a throwaway character because she comes up a

lot later. Because... She had a crush on Grodd,

now she has a crush on Lex, but that'll come

up way later, though. We'll see. Are we ready

to go to the next episode? Yes, I think we are,

so we will do that. Do you have any idea what

you've done? Yes, I hunted a murderer. A murderer

the League's protecting. We don't have time for

this. We've got to ask the question what he just

picked up and put in his pocket. Me? Don't make

me ask again. Oh. You mean this. It's a storage

key for a place down by the train station. All

right, you two stay here. Don't make me sick

black canary on you. You've only seen her nice

side so far. What was that for? All that crazy

mystery man mojo and you couldn't even pick up

a clue without being seen? The key wasn't the

clue. The key was mine. Now this list of container

ship arrivals I palmed while they were yelling

at you. That's the clue. I don't get it. Why

aren't we on our way to the train station? Because

I know when I'm being conned. You're cute when

you're in insufferable smarty pants. Even smarter

than they say. Smart enough to realize you don't

know jack about Cadmus. I needed your help. Talk

to me about Mandragora. What did he do to you?

You wouldn't understand. Wouldn't understand

what? That he worked for your father, Franco

Bertinelli? Or that your father was himself a

powerful crime boss? You were just a child. You

certainly didn't understand what your father

did for a living. You just knew that when he

talked... People listened. That he always had

his guys around him to do whatever he said. And

that the most frightening one was Mandragora.

Looking into his eyes was like looking into an

empty pit. One terrible night, Mandragora decided

he no longer wished to take orders. Get behind

me, Helena. It'll be alright. Your father hoped

to protect you by hiding you in a closet. He's

coming! But you saw it all, Helena. Steven Mandragora

killed your parents while you watched. Helplessly.

Isn't that what happened? If you knew all that...

Then you probably know what I'm going to do to

Mandragora when I catch him. So why help me?

That is the question. Somebody's following us.

Lose them. Like airline luggage. You're not supposed

to drive when you're angry. They're heading towards

the waterfront. Hang on. It's so funny you think

you have to tell me that. Stop the car, Question.

Pull over. Stop following us, Canary. Is that

her? Give me that. Hey! You want a piece of me,

Blondie? Bring it. This is so unnecessary. Are

we dead yet? No. Are we dead yet? Look, if we

die, I promise I'll let you know. absolutely

right. I'm sorry I saved our lives. Up next is

Double Date. Huntress infiltrates Steven Mandragora's

high security mansion, sneaks into his bedroom,

and empties her crossbow into the bed. But she

is shocked to peel back the sheets and see a

pile of artfully arranged pillows. Before she

can do more, she is teleported up to the watchtower.

where she is confronted by a very angry Jean

Jones. He says she was ordered to stay away from

Mandragora. While she is appalled to realize

that the League is actually protecting him, Jean

dismisses her from the League and orders her

to clean out her quarters. Returning to her cabin,

I can't believe they call them cabins in the

middle of a giant fucking space station, she

happens across a muttering question engaged in

his obsessive search for a link between Lex Luthor

and Project Cadmus. Using... All the feminine

wiles she can command, she offers Question a

deal. He helps her find Mandragora, and she'll

share what she knows about Cadmus, which, in

reality, is absolutely fucking nothing. And he

accepts. Mandragora, it turns out, is being kept

in a safe house by federal agents before his

trial, as they expect him to testify on his criminal

associates in exchange for leniency. The League

has assigned Green Arrow and Black Canary to

assist. the agents. The task proves onerous as

Mandragora goes out of his way to be offensive.

Before long, Green Arrow has to be restrained,

though it is Black Canary who throws a punch

that gets both of them expelled from the house.

Taking watch from a treehouse, they see Huntress

and Question pull up outside. Forewarned by Jaune,

they bar the way and the two couples clash. At

the same time, two of Mandragora's thugs arrive

at the front door dressed as policemen, causing

a diversion that allows Mandragora to overpower

his captors and escape. As Canary argues with

Huntress in question over the ruins of the safe

house, Arrow notices a question pick up something

from the floor, a key to a locker at the train

station. Arrow and Canary leave to pursue Mandragora

while Question reveals that the key was... wasn't

the clue. The clue he picked up was the schedule

of freighter arrivals at the local docks. However,

Arrow was suspicious and he and Canary wait to

see Huntress in question leave. En route to the

docks, question reveals that he knows full well

that Huntress knows nothing about Cadmus and

knows why she is so bent on revenge. Her father

Franco Bertinelli was powerful mob boss when

Huntress was only a child. Mandragora, Franco's

chief enforcer, took over the gang, killing Huntress'

parents while she watched from a hiding place.

Blinking back tears, Huntress asks Question why

he is helping her perform what he knows will

be revenge. A revenge killing. He doesn't answer,

but instead notices that Canary and Arrow are

following them on her motorcycle. Question manages

to lose them in a railway tunnel. but the two

couples still reach the docks at the same time.

Arrow and Canary try to overpower Mandragora,

but he is too strong for them. Huntress aims

her crossbow at him, and he surrenders. He is

expected to be returned to custody, but Huntress

says that that's not what she has planned. She

is about to execute him when a small boy runs

to Mandragora from an arriving ship, shouting,

Papa! Papa! Mandragora hugs his son, explaining

that the boy was kidnapped by a rival gang, and

he has only now managed to rescue him. He never

intended to cooperate with the federal agents,

but instead was stalling until the boy was rescued.

Then they would both disappear and take on new

identities. Question leaves the choice to Hunters,

and she makes the right one. She turns her crossbow

off and drops a heavy crane load onto Mandragora.

I'm not going to shoot him. I'm just going to

crush him to death. Yeah, that's about the speed

of it. Knocking him unconscious, he is returned

to federal custody, now left with no choice but

to cooperate while his son is likewise taken

into protective custody. Huntress realizes that

Question knew all along that Mandragora's plan

was and that his son would be arriving. She asks

why, then, would he go to such trouble to help

her find him, including risking his own life.

Sheepishly, Question admits that it was because

he quote -unquote likes her. Swept away. What?

The way you said that. He likes her. Yeah. Swept

away, Huntress plants a big kiss on his face,

mask and all. and drags him away to someplace

more private. While Black Canary remarks, I'm

sorry, but ew. I really die. I don't know what

it is about these first three episodes. Even

though I love Double Date, I only have four notes,

or five notes actually, which one of them doesn't

really count since it's just a superpower. But

you know who Huntress is voiced by? Amy Acker.

You know I'm bad with names. Amy Acker. She was

another Buffyverse person. She was Fred in Angel.

That was Fred? Yep. Awesome. Okay. Yep. Yep.

And of course, yay, GABC relationship episode.

Woo -hoo. I just love the part on the train tracks.

It's nice that you think you have to tell me

to hold on. They're awesome. Yeah, they are.

When the two couples are fighting each other,

Huntress does an upside -down spinning kick.

Wow, that was sexy and lethal all at the same

time. Now, that was a spinning bird kick from

Street Fighter, wasn't it? Yeah, it was like

a Chun -Li move. Is it just me, or have you ever

seen Mask of the Phantasm? A long time ago. I

did see it when it came out. Is it just me, or

has the Huntress backstory been told before?

Can you say hello, Andrea Beaumont from Mask

of the Phantasm? The only thing that didn't happen

was Huntress changed her identity to a phantasm

or something. This is the exact same backstory

of Andrea Beaumont from Mask of the Phantasm.

Yep. Where in Mask of the Phantasm, Beaumont's

father was linked to the mob, and Joker was around

then, or the person that would have become the

Joker was around then, and the mob killed her

father, and her mother had already passed away,

but it's still the same type of story. And then

my final little note is this is the first time

we hear the canary cry. No, it's not. Wait. No,

no, it's not, but it just... No, I know why I

did it, yeah. I know why I said it like I did,

because I put Canary Car with like six exclamation

points behind it. It was because she basically

failed in using it because Mandragora just fought

it off. It was almost like Wonder Woman with

Vox Boy when she had the diamonds in her ears.

Yeah, it was... It was interesting considering

we saw before... I don't want to use it too close

because it'll kill them. Apparently not. But

then again, Mandragora, he looks like he's a

fat slob, but like Black Canary said, he's nothing

but muscle. Yeah, I mean, it's a complete illusion

on his part. What did you have for this one?

Okay, to continue on with what you were just

saying. Yes. Exactly like Wilson Fisk, the kingpin.

Yeah. There's no fat on that guy. It's all muscle,

folks. What else? So, as usual, I've got a whole

bunch of notes. So, double date. The mobsters

laughing about the recipes in the very beginning.

Yeah. You know, how many times I got to tell

you, if you do it that way, you're going to burn

it. Oh, yeah. What? Hello? Oh, oh. Okay. I honestly

tried. I tried looking up who those guys were

in reference to because I swear that they were

a reference to something, some comedy team that

had a back and forth like that. I honestly don't

know. I don't think it was Abbott and Costello.

Because I don't think they ever had a routine

like that. If anybody knows, anybody that actually

listens to this podcast, if anybody knows, what

I'm talking about is the beginning scene of Double

Date, the two mobsters, oh, what the hell are

the damn names? Anyway, the two mobsters that

are outside Mandragora's house, that they have

this back and forth about... Oh, what is it?

Not cannolis. What was it, dude? Oh, I wish I

could remember. You can't even remember? Great.

Was it cannolis? No, it wasn't cannolis. It was

something else. I don't know. But it seems like

I've seen that comedy bit before. I'm not sure.

So if anybody knows, you can email me, tfg1mike

at gmail .com. What else you got? Okay. The Huntress,

we get to see, with the Huntress and Black Canary,

we get to see two of the Birds of Prey fighting

each other. Okay, so we have Jaune totally pissed,

but he's making sure that none of the heroes

cross the line that would spark this whole superhuman

arms race. True. The question, the connection

of the Girl Scouts and crop circles. Damn those

cookies. Actually, yeah. More of questions, not

really crackpot ideas, but more of his... Conspiracy

theories? Conspiracy theories will come up a

little bit later. You've got something special

for that. Oh, yes, I do. Agent Faraday. Yeah.

That sounded really familiar and excellent voice.

I have, for some reason, the voice of Mandragora.

Mm -hmm. Who were these people? Because they

sounded... Agent Faraday, the name sounded really,

really familiar. Is this a character we've seen

before? Or is this something from a name drop

that might have come up from New Frontier? No.

Well, New Frontier was after this, so that's

probably where they got it from. But I think

Faraday is part of DC Comics lore. Why don't

you go through some of your other notes and I

will look it up really quick. Okay. The whole

comment of, you're the one that punched him.

And then the whole, the classic line of Green

Arrow to Black Canary calling her Pretty Bird,

which is his pet name for her, and it comes up

often in comics. It's nice to know that they

actually pulled something from comics and made

that staple to really cement it for people like

me. Let's see. What did the question just put

in his pocket? Oh, who? Me? The whole innocent

act that he did. That was awesome. The Huntress'

father is apparently Scarface, if you look at

the animation model. Yep. That really was like,

what? Really? Tony and Cecil were the two goons

in the beginning. Tony was voiced by Joe... and

Cecil was voiced by Steve Sharippa, who I think

Steve Sharippa was one of the guys from The Sopranos.

Okay. Maybe it was in the episode of Sopranos.

I don't know. I'm not sure. Steven Mandragora

was voiced by Glenn Shaddix. And who was the

other one you wanted to know about? Oh, no, it

was just a question about Faraday. Oh, he was

voiced by Scott Patterson. King Faraday, let's

see. Continuity, background, trivia. This episode

marks the first appearance of Special Agent King

Faraday and the first speaking appearance of

Huntress. Let's see. Open a new tab. King Faraday

was once assigned to protect and extract information

from Stephen Mandragora when Lex Luthor escaped

prison. He became the liaison between U .S. government

and Justice League. Appearances and references.

He's in Double Date, I Am Legion, To Another

Shore, and Dead Reckoning. He's only mentioned

in Dead Reckoning. It's only giving me JLU references.

It's not Agent of Undisclosed Branch of the United

States. It's not giving me if he's a comic. Yeah,

it's just giving what his DCAU stuff is. I can

look him up another way really quick. What else

you got? What else do I got? So the whole interaction

of the motorcycle slamming into the train. Oh,

yeah. And then teleporting out. And BC is totally,

totally ripped. It took me so long to rebuild

that from scratch. And it's like, oh, really?

No, thanks for getting us out alive. Thanks,

dear. No, they're not in a relationship at all.

So the big question after this whole episode

is, where exactly is she kissing? The question.

Because there's no mouth on that mask. It's a

mask that completely seals off his mouth, his

face. Yeah. And of course, later on, down the

line in this episode, we'll get to More huntress

question stuff. As far as Faraday himself, he

was named King by his father as a joke play on

the phrase King for a day. An ex -soldier, he

took position as a counter -espionage agent for

the U .S. government and engaged in a variety

of standard spy -type capers. Some of his danger

trial adventures were referenced in Showcase

No. 50, May to June 1964, under the title I Spy.

Faraday has since been incorporated full bore

into the DC Universe as a member of the Central

Bureau of Intelligence. At one point, he was

Nightshade's mentor. In fact, he had a hand in

both her and Bronze Tiger being recruited into

Task Force X. He has also teamed up with Batman

a few times. On two of the occasions, he has

helped Batman in the capture of Two -Face. One

year later, he is a member of Checkmate, serving

as bishop for a white queen, Amanda Waller. He

was in New Frontier. Faraday plays a prominent

role in the alternate universe series DC The

New Frontier. He leads an effort to contain and

corral the large amount of super -powered entities

appearing. So, yeah, he's been in comics for

a number of years, at least since 1964, so it's

not just a character that they made up in Justice

League. Okay. I don't know. I think Double Date's

a really fun episode. I thought it was good.

Yeah, it's very, very fun. And there really isn't

too many things that you can really discount

about it. I mean, yeah, you can say the fighting

between the two couples is kind of catty. I mean,

well, at least with the females anyway. Oh, I

see what you did. What? I wasn't really – oh,

yeah. No, I wasn't really going there. But, yeah,

I see what I did there now too. Where's Selina

Kyle when you really need her? Oh, God. Okay,

so that totally brings – up a recent episode

of Brave and the Bold where it is the Birds of

Prey and Catwoman is in there doing a song with

Huntress and Black Canary. Wow. Yep. That's cool.

I just think this is a really fun episode. It

gives us some light into the G .A .B .C. relationship.

And I really like that, you know, I like Ken

Shriver or Ken Shriner who voiced Arrow and the

chick that voices Canary. And I wish that they

would have done more with them, but I know that

at this point they weren't sure if they were

getting another season or two seasons or whatever.

I don't know. I just wish there was more of them.

Or, you know, we could just have like a Unhoneymooners

cartoon series with Platt Canary and Arrow with

Huntress in question. That would have been awesome.

Maybe we can check the comics and see if there's

anything in there. Yeah, yeah. So I think we're

going to move on. You don't understand. Out of

my way, Lex. I don't know what's down there,

but... Hey, guys, guys, let's take it easy, okay?

Captain Marvel, thank heaven you're here. He

just won't listen. You don't have x -ray vision.

I do. There's some sort of device buried beneath

us, and I'm shutting it down. No. If you touch

it, it could go off. Go off? So you admit you

put a bomb under this city. Not a bomb. An experimental

fusion engine. It'll supply nearly free energy

to everyone who lives here. See? Then why the

lead shielding? It's for your protection. The

engine creates energy through controlled fusion

of kryptonite molecules. See? And why didn't

you tell me this? Maybe... Maybe I was afraid

you wouldn't believe me. Let's call the atom

or steel to check the device over. See if what

Luthor says is true. At least someone around

here is keeping a cool. Let me swallow. That

didn't sound right. Oh, man. Robin Spitz, formerly

Swallows. Well, which is it, baby? Spitz of Swallows.

Oh, Austin Powers references. I'm trying not

to choke on this pork. Yeah, I know. That must

have been one hell of a chop. Chew to a chop!

Okay, ready. Go anytime. You're going to keep

this in, aren't you? No, hell no. I'm going to

cut this out. Special bonus feature, folks. Next

we have The Clash. When Superman is occupied

by a plummeting airliner, the Justice League's

newest recruit answers Batman's call for backup.

After quickly halting the parasite's rampage

through Metropolis, Captain Marvel is introduced

to his idol Superman, though the Man of Steel

isn't quite sure what to make of him. Circled

by a swarm of reporters, including Lewis Lane,

Marvel makes an offhanded comment about Lex Luthor's

rumored presidential bid. The new Justice Leaguer

flies away to his homestead. hometown of Fawcett

City, and speaks his magical word, Shazam, which

transforms him into his true self, a normal 10

-year -old boy named Billy Batson. The next day,

aboard the Watchtower, Captain Marvel is awed

by the collection of heroes who see him as one

of the guys. But Stu angrily brings Marvel before

the League Council, the seven original members,

and tears into him. Marvel's remark about Lex

Luthor has been inflated by the media into a

full -fledged political endorsement by a major

superhero. Oh, boy. Superman lectures a young

hero about how complicated the world is, and

someone like Lex Luthor shouldn't be taken at

face value. Marvel argues his belief that people

like Luthor can indeed change for the better.

A little later, Batman and Superman debate the

pros and cons of Captain Marvel while casually

mopping the floor with a group of supervillains.

They just talk shop. I know. It's so awesome.

Wait, wasn't that a hologram? I didn't think

so. I don't remember. I was taking notes at the

time. Meanwhile, Lex Luthor himself has invited

Superman to participate in the celebration of

Lexor City. Oh, hubris. Luthor's newest legitimate

project, which promises modern housing for low

-income families in a safe and friendly community.

Though distrustful of Luther's motives and still

irritated by his encounter with Marvel, Superman

grudgingly agrees to make an appearance. At the

ceremony, a suspicious Superman scans underneath

Lexer City, and his X -ray vision finds what

he believes to be a potentially dangerous device.

Luther claims innocence and explains that the

device in question is simply a new power generator

for the complex, with kryptonite as its cheap

energy source. Billy Batson is also present,

and he becomes Captain Marvel in a noble attempt

to calm Superman, who is now openly accusing

Lex of planning a criminal act. At a rare public

display of anger, Superman lashes out at Marvel

and begins to tunnel his way towards Luthor's

machine. Marvel answers Superman's challenge,

and a tremendous battle takes place between the

two, the most powerful beings on Earth. Much

of Lexer City is damaged and... or destroyed,

as Superman and Captain Marvel trade thunderous,

earth -shattering punches. Superman seems to

have a slight advantage, perhaps due to his experience

in anger, while Marvel grabs him in a bear hug

and calls down a lightning bolt with his magic

word. After two painful strikes, Superman dodges

a third, and Marvel is replaced by the harmless

Billy Batson. But the atom later confirms Luthor's

innocence. The machine was no more than a power

generator. Superman is publicly humiliated and

offers a quick apology to Luthor. Lex not only

accepts Superman's apology, but the reformed

villain vows to completely rebuild Lexer City

with his own money. Marvel is disgusted by Superman's

actions and calls a meeting with the League Council

to announce his resignation. The young hero claims

that the League no longer acts like true heroes.

As Marvel leaves, Superman expresses a regret

to his teammates and agrees with Marvel, fearing

that the Justice League has lost its way. Batman,

however, is not fooled. The whole... was a setup

by them. Dun, dun, dun. Now who's sounding like

the question? Back in Metropolis, Lex Luthor

explains to an unknown companion that the plan

went better than expected. The entire purpose

of the kryptonite power source was to arouse

Superman's suspicion and cause the incident that

would tarnish the League's reputation. The destruction

of Luxor City not only embarrassed Superman and

the League, but it boosted Lex's public image

as well. Lex pops open a bottle of wine and shares

a drink with his mystery collaborator, Amanda

Waller. Well, at least he didn't kiss her, thank

God. That's for the straight -for -DVD movie.

Bounce, chicka, wow, wow. Oh, poor elongated

man. Dude, it's the pin! I know, but he got flattened.

I know. Poor Piv. Poor Mr. Digby. John, we need

backup down here. Are you asking for help? Yes,

but you never asked for help. Just get us some

reinforcements. That was awesome. You're my biggest

fan. Excuse me? I mean, I'm your biggest fan.

I wonder if anybody who has ever gone to conventions,

whether it be Transformers or anything else like

that, has ever said that to somebody. Oh, God,

yeah. What, that you're my biggest fan? And then,

oh, excuse me, I mean, I'm your biggest fan?

If you're sauce... See? See? You can't even talk.

What the hell? Oh, goddamn English. If you're

starstruck, you say a lot of really stupid stuff.

Not that I would know from personal experience.

Liar. I know Batson is a kid in an adult body,

but geez, high -fiving everyone, give me a break.

Again, 10 -year -old. I know, I know. You just

don't go blabbing to the press. Again, 10 -year

-old. I know. That's going to be your excuse

for everything I come up with with Billy Batson.

Since when do you start jumping to conclusions?

That's a good one. Well, that was Batman to Superman

there. Hero fight! I like how the, oh yeah. At

the beginning of the episode, I like how the

Watchtower gets a gleaming sunshot, and then

at the end it gets like a fading sunshot, like

it's closing a chapter, like closing a, like

all these events, well they did happen in one

day, but it's like sun up and sun down. That

was really cool. It's also a great sign for okay,

end of the golden age, too. End of the golden

age? Yeah, people don't. People don't trust them

quite nearly as much. Oh, yeah. You see that

they're going into the dark times. Right. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. Very, very true. I didn't think of

that. That's true. Yes. So what do you got for

Clash? Okay. Mine's just not nearly as much as

the other ones. So we covered the whole never

ask for help. The scene where Superman gets his

cape in his face. And it just made me think of

The Incredibles and their designer going, No

capes! No capes! Yeah. So poor Billy Batson,

you know, he's off saving the world. He's got

to go back and get yelled at by his teachers.

Really? Oh, poor kid. Um, and speaking of poor

superheroes, they're commenting about endorsements

and the deodorant, and poor Flash is just like,

oh, god, uh, yeah, next subject, please. Um,

so, you know, did anybody actually come up with

where that kryptonite came from? Come on, where'd

a kryptonite come from? I smell cover -up. Oh,

it's just Amanda. Sorry. No, they, no, they,

cause, remember? Wasn't part of the whole episode

that... It got stolen, military grade. Right.

And then at the end, they're like, oh, where'd

this kryptonite come from, Lex? You know, nothing

came up of where he came up with this kryptonite.

It's like, oh, he just keeps storehouses of it.

Oh, you're wrong, dude, because the whole thing

is, this is set up. I mean, we've been setting

up for the Cadmus arc, but this is set up for

next episode because... They go to Star Labs

and Emil Hamilton is there. And he shows them

that the weapons grade kryptonite was stolen.

And then Superman automatically assumes that

it's Lex. So Superman's main position is Lex

fucking did it. Okay, sorry folks. I watched

these all back to back. It kind of runs together.

It's okay. I blame the microbiologist. What the

hell is microbiology? How does it do with superheroes?

Wait, I don't want to know. Don't answer. Dude,

the atom. Yeah, I know. I watch these episodes

in between my study sessions. Oh, that's fine.

That's why. That's my excuse and I'm sticking

with it. Okay, so why do they like him? Why do

they like Captain Marvel when he's just another

version of Superman, if you really think about

it? And Batman puts it out. He's sunny. I like

him because he's sunny. What? Bruce, what happened?

Batman's going soft. Oh, so the whole fight in

Lexar City, there goes the property values. Yep.

Okay, so the one thing that I will geek out comic

-wise, the fight between Shazam... Sorry, he's

Shazam. Captain Marvel. Whatever. And Supes is

Kingdom Come. The big fight that happened in

this, it's right out of Kingdom Come. Which I

think did come beforehand. Where it's Superman

versus Shazam and this whole Civil War type deal.

You know, super power Civil War going on. The

two duke it out. And... The one thing that Shazam

really definitely has over Superman is that he's

magically based. He has that advantage where

magic is a weakness of Superman. So poor Cal

is kind of at a disadvantage. Right, yeah. He

kind of is. Anything else you got? Clash really

isn't one of my favorites. I honestly couldn't

do without this episode. I get that they had

to have something kind of breaking up the whole

Cadmus stuff, but I just... It didn't really

break it up. Well, really, it's setting it up,

because like I said before, it's all set up for

next episode when it really, really starts, but

I just... I don't know. You know what? No, it

was a nice 20 -minute segment that was just prelude

to that last two minutes. That big reveal of,

okay, they're finally in coots. We knew this

was going to happen. Yeah, yeah. So we are going

to move on. President. Foolish, faceless man.

My campaign is a farce. A small part of a much

grander scheme. President. Do you know how much

power I'd have to give up to be president? That's

right, conspiracy buff. I spent 75 million dollars

on a fake presidential campaign. All just to

tick Superman off. Now, about those files you

stole from me. You stole files from our computer.

Just tell me what you've learned. Topically applied

fluoride doesn't prevent tooth decay. It does

render teeth detectable by spy satellite. Tell

me what you know. The plastic tips at the ends

of shoelaces are called aglets. True purpose

is sinister. Of next is Question Authority. The

rogue new god Mantis is a rampaging through Metropolis.

He proves a handful for the combined powers of

Superman and Captain Atom, but Superman manages

to open a boom tube, sent him hurling back to

Apocalypse. No sooner has the dust settled than

Lois Lane arrives to remind Superman that they

have a date. Just tell her you're fucking Clark

Kent already and get it over with, you moron.

Wait, you mean they have... She doesn't know?

Come on! I figured the way they're going on,

at this point they were already married. Loana

and all. Let's see. As Superman flies away with

her, Captain Adam is surprised to be hailed by

General Eiling. In full dress uniform, Eiling

informs him that his commission in the U .S.

Air Force has been reinstated and it's time for

Adam to make a choice. Over a picnic, Lois gently

tells Superman that the Justice League's recent

heavy -handed behavior is making some people

nervous and that people haven't forgotten the

time when Superman was under Darkseid's control.

Then we jump to, with Huntress' help, the question

steals a series of high -security files from

the government terminal, hoping that it would

find proof of a link between Luther and Cadmus.

Inside Cadmus, Luther is examined by Professor

Hamilton and is shocked to be told that his kryptonite

-induced cancer that has been with him throughout

the last three or four or five seasons has disappeared

entirely. Dun -dun -dun. Okay, I really want

to know the cure for that cancer, being Mr. Oncologist.

Because if I could market that, bam, baby. Yeah,

I don't. You'll find out what the cure was, but

you won't find out. A nice alternative. It's

nothing that you can really use in real life.

Damn it. Fort it again. Fort it again, yeah.

As if it was never even there, Amanda Waller

arrives and informs them of the theft. In his

apartment, Question cracks the files and begins

to review them. Happens upon footage of the Justice

Lord Superman assassinating President Luthor.

I actually screencapped. I'm going to have to

look for it really quick. I actually screencapped

the image of the computer, and there's like at

least three or four references to several different

things in the alternate dimension. After days

of... Pouring over the data, he becomes unhinged,

believing that the same thing is fated to happen

in their world. Luthor will become president,

Flash will be killed, and Superman will attack

the government, except that according to Cadmus

simulations resulting war between all metahumans

of the Justice League and the humans will destroy

the world. Question confronts Superman, who assures

him that he would never do what the Justice Lord

Superman did, even if Luthor does become president.

Question is unconvinced and decides that the

only way to prevent Armageddon is to kill Luther

before he takes office. He goes to Luther's office

to do so, but Luther awaits him, or swats him

away with a display of inhuman strength that

surprises both of them, and confesses that his

entire presidential campaign is nothing but a

bluff, a small part of a much grander scheme,

A question is taken to Cadmus and tortured by

Dr. Moon for details on the files he stole. Huntress

kidnaps Jimmy Olsen. Aw, Jimmy. The first time

we've seen Jimmy. Well, no, it isn't the first

time we've seen Jimmy, but it's the first time

we've seen Jimmy in a while. I mean, he was in

that scene earlier in this episode with Lois,

but, I mean, as far as, like, hearing him muffly

speak, I guess you could say, because he did

have his mouth duct -taped. Oh, well, it's only

Jimmy. You don't like Jimmy, do you? No. And

uses his special watch to call Superman alone.

Telling Superman about the tape, which she assumes

is a fake, they track his communicator to a garbage...

Huntress fears the worst, but Superman points

out that they dumped his cum and not his body.

They conclude that question has been taken by

Cadmus. Superman initially refuses to help her,

insisting that the League cannot act without

legal grounds. But when Huntress points out that

Cadmus is interrogating question under the government's

authority, Superman decides that they'll act

off the book. The pair smashes into Cadmus. Superman

easily defeats their soldiers. and Huntress searches,

Superman looks through a wall and sees Professor

Hamilton. Realizing his role in the conspiracy,

he confronts Hamilton, who doesn't deny what

he's done, insisting that the world needs protection

from Superman and his kind. Superman leaves in

anger, and as he leaves, Hamilton appears tired

with a concerned look on his face. Together,

he and Huntress break into the cell where a question

is being tortured. As they are leaving, they

are stopped by Captain Adam, who says that he

is now taking orders from the government, and

his job is to stop them. Oh, boy. I... Soups

and Captain Adam team up, yay. I really did like

that. That was much better than Superman vs.

Captain Marvel. Marvel? Or Marvel, whatever his

name is. Captain Marvel. High octane action,

because that's all most of this episode is. Definitely.

Superman is late for a date with Lois. Like I

said before, just tell her your fucking identity

already, you moron. Yikes, Eiling is the dark

side. Yay, Huntress in question foreplay, especially

when she puts the hard drive down her skirt and

not in her belt. If you look at that scene, she

doesn't open one of the tabs on her belt. She

puts it right in her skirt. Oh, boy. Oh, hi,

Aztec. Yes, Aztec. This is, I think, one of two

times we see him. Not in this specifically episode,

but in the series. This is one of two times that

I know of that we see him. Justice Lord's plot

revealed. Question. Attempts to kill Luthor.

Luthor has super strength. What the hell is going

on here? And when the... When question is being

interrogated, the plastic tips at the ends of

shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose

is sinister. A -G -L -E -T. Don't you forget

it. A lot of people may or may not get that reference.

I think you should put in an audio clip. Just

so people can get that. Yeah, maybe I will. It's,

yeah. And even though Lupus doesn't really care,

but my next note was, Signal Watch, yay, Jimmy

Olsen. Because I thought it was so cool that

they referenced the Signal Watch. Not specifically

Jimmy, but just that they referenced the watch

itself. And even though Captain Atom is following

orders, what a traitor. Is he a traitor or is

he just doing what he thinks is right? No, he's

a traitor because Eiling basically pressured

him into it. I mean, it's total peer pressure

on Eiling's part. But if you're a military individual,

even if you're off of active duty and they can

recall you, you have to. Yeah, but Eiling didn't

under false pretenses, though. True. That's all

I got. What about you? Let's see. Okay, to start

off, Mantis. I wrote down Mantis? Seriously?

That's an ugly -ass costume. Two seconds later,

another person from Apocalypse? That explains

the outfit. The boom tube effect that we saw

in the subway didn't seem quite up to par like

we've seen before. The animation seemed a bit

off. So it did bring up a really big question.

Just who the hell cleans up after these superheroes?

Like, really? Is there, like, a super -powered,

like, clean -up crew? Is there, like, some third

-wavers that just go and clean up? I don't know

what happens. Maybe it's all the people that

are in just generic Watchtower uniforms that

do it. Maybe. Let's see. Damn, I wish I had that

body at 20. When they were talking about Luther.

It's like, oh, you've got the body of a 20 -year

-old. I wish I had that body. Really? How many

20 -year -olds do you know that look like that?

Really? Well, now... I know, it's a fictional

character. No, that's not what I was going to

say. I was going to say maybe they meant medically.

Still, he's got... Hell of muscle growth and

muscle tone for a 20 -year -old. I'll just say

that. Anyway, let's just hope that the encryption

stands up and the question is just like, oh,

yeah, I cracked it. Woo -hoo. Done. And then

when he cracks, that's when this starts getting

really good. We're seeing writing that makes

me go, wow, how did they pass through with this?

How did they produce this and not get in trouble?

And then we find out who actually killed the

Flash. We now saw through that montage of clips

who pulled the trigger to kill the Flash. And

it was Luthor. Which explains why Superman went

rogue. Well, I mean, they even said it in A Better

World. You know, Flash died. Or, you know, Flash

was killed by Luthor. I mean, it wasn't really

said. It wasn't expressly said. It was hinted

at that it was Luthor that killed him. Yep. But

it wasn't a case of, okay, he specifically killed

it. It was alluded to, okay, maybe one of his

minions did it. Maybe he was the one that was

Machiavellian maneuvering. Copperhead did kill

him. I don't know. So if he's doing it off the

books, why is he in his normal uniform? Really?

Not even like a uniform change? What would you

prefer? That it was black and silver and metallic

looking? Without the big S, it could have been

cool. Cover his face up. He could have put glasses

on and no one would be able to smell it. That's

so wrong. And then the whole ending I just put

down, that's a really bad move, Kevin. Like,

really, really bad. See, the problem I have with

this episode is what they did with these episodes.

Because it's weird. Actually, I need to bring

this up since we're talking about Question Authority

and we'll be talking about Hunter's Moon here

afterwards. I don't know if it's the DVD or the

book or what the deal is, but according to the

booklet, let's see here. Oh, that's a nice little

image there. In the booklet, it says on disc

12, episode 21. is Hunter's Moon, a .k .a. Mystery

in Space. And then 22 is Question Authority,

23 is Flashpoint, and 24 is Panic in the Sky.

25 is Divide, We Fall, and 26 is Epilogue. Now,

on the DVD, they show them where Question Authority

is first, which is how we're doing them, and

then Hunter's Moon, and then Flashpoint. I don't

know. It's so weird because you have this cliffhanger

at the end of this episode, and then the very

next episode you have a hot girl story. Seriously.

So I'm wondering. It's one hell of a cliffhanger.

Yeah. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I'm wondering

why or where is it wrong? What is the foul up?

Is it the DVD that's wrong, or is it the booklet,

or what is it? what is it that's so wrong? Like,

where are these actually supposed to be? And

I'm actually going to look them up. So if you

have any other notes or thoughts, keep going.

That's all I have. That's all you have. Just

a damn island. Hey, J. Jordan Jameson, though.

Yeah. J .K. Simmons. So, all right, well, we

are going to move on to the final episode. We'll

be back after this audio clip. I'm compensating

for the interference. Say again? This is a distress

call from the mining ship Harklement. We took

samples from a vein of unidentified ore and that's

when everything started going wrong. Slow down.

Tell me what happened. Radiation from the ore.

Ship's main power is offline. We're stranded

and there's some kind of chain reaction taking

place in the vein we took the sample from. I

need your data on the ore. Transmitting for all

the good it'll do. It appears to be a simple

hematite, but iron oxide isn't radioactive. Look

at the atomic number. 676. It makes no sense.

Shaira. Is this what I think it is? It's transuranic

iron ore. Nth metal, like my mace, but unrefined.

What about it? We're stranded on a rock pretty

much made of the stuff. Are we in any danger?

Sit tight. Don't move and don't touch anything.

Prep a javelin for me. I'm on my way. Wait. I'm

assigning a support team. Don't need one. I'll

handle it myself. That wasn't a suggestion. You

haven't been pulling your weight as a team leader.

Excuse me? You're not alone anymore. Stop behaving

as if you are. I'll go with you. No, you won't.

You're both founding members. I don't want there

to be any question who's leading the mission.

Then I'll go. Fine. You gotta be kidding me.

Javelin 26 is ready for you on Pad 9. I'll have

the last team member meet you there. Come on,

then. Yes. Why did you do that? Vixen hasn't

spent much time in space. Good experience for

her. You know what I mean. Sending my girlfriend

and my ex on the same mission? Difficult as it

may be for you to believe, I don't take your

love life into consideration when I make command

decisions. Before we go into the final episode,

I would just like to say that when I was making

the list out for the episodes of this series,

I have the complete series DVD collection. As

you watch the DVDs, they show the episodes in

the order of Question Authority and Hunter's

Moon after it. The order is actually supposed

to be switched. It's supposed to be Hunter's

Moon, then Question Authority. according to the

DCAU Wiki, according to IMDB, everywhere else.

So it's my own fault that we kind of screwed

the pooch on this. So finally up today is Hunter's

Moon, a .k .a. Mystery in Space. John Jones is

on monitor duty in the Watchtower when a distress

signal arrives. A choppy transmission from Miners

requests assistance in dealing with a mysterious

metal. After looking at the preliminary analysis,

it is determined that the metal is nth metal,

unrefined, and very dangerous. Shaira volunteers

to help out the miners, but is not allowed to

go on her own. Vixen and Vigilante are ordered

to go with her over the objections of Jon Stewart.

He has an emotional connection to both Shaira

and Vixen. Well, duh. After they arrive, the

team quickly discovers it is a trap when Shaira

cannot see the shadow cast from a floodlight

on the mine. which is a hologram. As they try

to escape, their javelin is destroyed. Thanagarians

then emerge from the cave led by Paran Duel,

intent on exacting revenge against the traitor

Shire Hall. Shire initially offers to go with

the Thanagarians, but is forbidden by her teammates.

In the course of the dialogue, her former Thanagarian

comrades relay to her the demise of their empire

and sacrifice of Hero Talek. Shire is devastated

and quietly admits to Vixen that she has still

had strong feelings for Talek. The Justice League

members are able to evade the Thanagarians for

a while with the help of Shire's covert ops training,

but in a melee, Vixen is captured while her teammates

escape. Shire suggests a prisoner trade, her

for Vixen, While the elusive Vigilante is able

to commandeer the Thanagarian spaceship, he flies

in to help Vixen while Shair engages in a semi

-deranged robot like Krager. Perinduel and Vixen

fight on the Thanagarian craft. While Vigilante

flies, Shair is able to defeat Krager by pulling

out his power supply as they fall. He presumably

perishes while Perinduel is thrown from the ship.

With more confidence, Vixen is now flying. They

pick up Shair and escape. Back at the Watchtower,

Vigilante is carted off for treatment for wounds

received in battle, and Shire and Vixen immediately

head off for some type of confrontation concerning

their mutual affection for Jon Stewart. The viewer

is led to think that it will not be pretty, but

they end up laughing about the qualities of Stewart

that they both love, and one or two that are

both teasing him on. They reach an uneasy truce.

Mari knows that Jon still has some feelings for

Shire. and vice versa, but she likes to see things

through. Cher raises her drink and says, on guard.

Well, we know how that works out for us. Well,

it's, alright, we're going to get to it kind

of down the line. Well, we kind of already got

into it with the Once and Future thing, but even

though that was a time travel story, or a future

story, it's an alternate time, it doesn't really

count, but Bruce Timm has said in the past that

eventually GA, or not GA, Yeah, G .A. and Shayera.

Wow, that would be some weird pairing right there.

G .L. and Shayera. Bruce Timmons said probably

eventually down the line they, you know, hook

back up, but not right away. Let's see. Sending

my girlfriend and my ex on the same mission.

Rutt roll. Let the claws come out. And considering

one of them has a... Well, Hawk Claus. I know.

Exactly. That's why I said it. Holy shit, the

Hawk people are back. Perrin and Krager. Oh,

God. I don't think so good anymore. No. It's

not good to confuse, Krager. It's a hologram.

We've been set up. Eek, it's a trap. Javelin

go boom. That was a nice explosion. And I know

I'm probably going to make Lupus cringe with

my next note. Jeez, Hro, haven't you taken a

shower since Starcrossed? You still got blood

on you when GL whooped your ass? Well, no. He's

still at the end of Starcrossed. Hro was just...

red spotted bloody blotches everywhere and in

the images that they show of him doing the fighting

with the Gordanians he still has that kind of

damage model and it's like wow you couldn't clean

yourself up he was just that pissed off apparently

so I really like Vigilante. Darn, sung, dang,

busted, horse, thief, and alien control panel

in which can't nobody work proper. And my last

little note was, of course, the on -guard thing,

which I thought was kind of funny. Bloody Krager.

Oh, yeah. You know, I really like the – I'm sorry

to interrupt you because you're just sitting

there laughing your ass off. I really like when

she pulls out his little battery pack because

that's just one of those epic Shire images where

she's just like putting everything into it. Oh,

yeah. Oh, horse hockey. Yeah. Best line ever.

Horse hoggy. Horse hoggy. Sorry. And I can see

little horses with like... Hockey sticks. Trying

to get the... Trying to get the hockey sticks.

Oh, God. That's... Parent duel. That Vanigarian

bitch. I actually said that in the library at

school and everyone was like, what? Nothing.

Let's see. Vigilante. Awesome. So we've got...

Nathan Fillion and the actress from that's playing

Vixen. It's a Firefly episode. Yes. What else?

So Vixen, the speed of a cheetah in the heels,

no less. And I went, wait, she lives in Chelsea.

What? I'm brain damaged, not stupid. And then,

wait, you're trusting the brain damaged guy?

Really? This doesn't bode well. No wonder you

guys aren't doing too well. Where do you got

that in the games? I think that's everything

I got. Yeah, yeah. Oh, holy crap. No way. I think,

I can't be for sure, but I think Maria Canales

met her husband on this episode. Because David

Barrera is the voice of Hawk No. 2. Oh. And her

name now is Maria Canales Barrera. Let's see.

Yeah, Vixen was done by Gina Torres. And Parent

Duel was done by Elizabeth Pena. And, yeah, like

you said, Nathan Fillion. Kind of cool. Let's

see, what other... In this episode, Shara wears

a yellow tank top and pants as opposed to the

white outfit she has worn after being reinstated.

I don't know, I kind of like the little outfit

she's got now. Whether it's white or yellow,

it doesn't matter to me, but it's much better

than the old uniform that she had when she was

a girl. Not quite so plain. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

like I said, the character credited as Hawk No.

2 is voiced by David Barrera, Maria Canales'

real -life husband. So maybe they didn't meet

on this episode. Maybe they were already married,

but I never knew that before. I never knew that

they had worked together in this. Overall, I

really like this episode. It's a nice... Even

though the air date order is reversed, it's supposed

to be this thing, Question Authority, it's a

nice little breather and it's still like... But

I'm sure if they aired them out of order, they'd

be like, oh shit, where the hell is my continuation

from Question Authority? I saw them in the order

that we... that we were going through. I'm like,

wait, wait. Yeah, I know. Is this a side story?

Is this like what's going on on the side? I know.

I fucked it up. I fully admit that. I fucked

it up. It's the DVD's fault, though. Because

I'm sorry. When I go to do shows like this, go

to set schedules for review shows like this,

I automatically assume, and I know I shouldn't

do this, but I automatically assume the DVD has

them in order that they originally aired. That's

why that they were like that. All right. So I

think that's it. Probably going to hear some

quote or something or other, and we will come

back with the outro. Giving away our position

is more like it. You got a better idea. I'm open.

How about we fight the bad guys instead of each

other? Shaira Hall! Parent duel? Friend of yours?

Birds ever feather. Did you really think you

could get away with betraying the entire Thanagarian

Empire? Hold up. I thought we were the ones she

betrayed. Sounds like she betrayed everybody,

cowboy. You helped the Justice League destroy

my hyperspace bypass. Only to stop you from killing

everyone on Earth. That bypass was our last hope.

Without it, we were helpless against our enemies.

Because of you, the Phanagarian Empire lost the

war. Nothing to say, traitor? Or hadn't you heard?

Rho. What happened to Rho? After you and the

Justice League destroyed the bypass... Our fleet

was ordered back to Thanagar. By the time we

exited hyperspace, the Gordanians had already

begun their final assault on our homeworld. In

their minds, the war was over. But not for Hro

Talak. He single -handedly destroyed a dozen

of the enemy battleships, more. But finally the

battle was lost. Of our entire fleet, only Hro

Talak's ship remained. He ordered us into a scout

ship. With his final breath, he destroyed the

Gordanian flagship. Too little, too late. The

war was already lost. I didn't know. Thank you

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