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Disney Spotlight Wrap-Up: Best and Worst Characters, Villains, Songs, and Films

About this Episode
Hello and welcome to episode 90 .5 of ToonCast,
brought to you by the GeekCast Radio Network.
You may be asking why we're doing a .5 episode.
Well, I highly doubt, and I'm taking Kevin's
advice, but I highly doubt anybody wants to...
wade through episode 90, where we covered all
three Lion King films, to get to our Disney Spotlight
wrap -up. So this is episode 90 .5 of ToonCast.
I am your host, Tio Jim, Mike, and joining me
is Kevin Optimus Solo Thompson. Hello, sir. Hello
there. Again, no accents. And the rising star,
Tara. Hello. Hey. And we're going to be putting
our Disney Spotlight back in the vault. We have
covered Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Aladdin,
Jungle Book, Sword in the Stone, Oliver and Company,
Pinocchio, the Cinderella movies, Alice in Wonderland,
Peter Pan, Lady and the Tramp movies, 101 Dalmatian
movies, even though neither Tara or I actually
watched the second one, Robin Hood, Aristocats.
the Little Mermaid franchise, and the Lion King
franchise. And basically what this episode is
going to be is us giving our overall thoughts
at the end of the episode, but we're going to
give top ten lists for each of us. And five lists
and three lists and all kinds of different lists.
Yeah, it's like top worst, top best type of list.
Some have ten, some have three, some have five.
So that's what you're going to hear in this.
The first list that we're going to take care
of is the worst ten Disney characters of the
films that we have reviewed on ToonCast so far.
Before, we've got to get a disclaimer out there
first. And my disclaimer is, don't be leaving
us feedback on iTunes or commenting on our webpage
or leaving voicemails that we missed certain
characters from movies that we didn't cover.
Because we're not talking about anything from
Bambi or Fox and the Hound or Dumbo or Beauty
and the Beast or those movies because we didn't
cover them. And when I write up the description
for this episode, I will specifically state in
the description for the website and the iTunes
feed that these lists are specifically for the
episodes that we've covered on the podcast. The
16 movies and their sequels that we covered.
Yes, exactly. We'll see how smart people are.
Or aren't. Yes, exactly. So, basically, I'm going
to name off the list, and then we're each going
to go around the table. I will go first, then
Tara, then Kevin. Sweet. So, for the worst 10
Disney characters, My number 10 is the queen
slash witch from Snow White. Nice. I just, oh,
my. You mean the bitch from Snow White? Yeah,
there you go. This person, this character, I
mean, seriously? Yeah. Oh, God. Just kill me
now. Pretty freaky. Pretty freaky. So are you
going with Tara's 10 now and then around that
way? Yeah, Tara's next for number 10 on the list.
My number ten worst are the frickin' Siamese
cats from Lady and the Tramp. I totally agree.
No love for the cats. I hate them. I hate those
cats. I want to put them in a kennel. Nice. I
want to put a muzzle on both of them and tie
it together so they're like conjoining twins.
I don't support animal abuse, but... Well, you
just said you want to put a muzzle on them, so...
I was just taking it one step further. Yeah,
just because... Be like Disney. Subscribe to
Animal Violence. Just because they're so... I
hate them. I hate Disney characters so much.
My number ten is actually a tie between about
seven people. It's all of Ariel's sisters from
The Little Mermaid. Just put them all in one
group. I don't like them. They annoy me. Yes,
I agree as well. My number nine... is the Blue
Fairy from Pinocchio. What a cruel little wench.
She's so weird looking. She's so weird looking.
She serves no purpose whatsoever other than to...
She's really pretty. No, she's not really pretty.
I thought she was pretty. She just doesn't look
like she fits that movie. No, she doesn't fit
that movie at all. Tara, you knew a lot when
you were six. You probably knew how to tie your
shoes or count to ten. Apparently, I don't know
that she's ugly at six years old. What's your
number nine, Tara? Aunt Sarah. I almost put her
on my list. She's definitely going to be on my
list because I don't like her. I was very close.
I hate her. She hates dogs. I don't like people
who don't like dogs. And she's mean. Yeah, number
nine. I couldn't decide on my number nine, so
I apologize. I'm cheating, and I'm giving a bunch
of people a tie for number nine. It'll be the
only time I do this in the characters. But my
number nine goes to sisters in general. The Geese
sisters from Aristocats, the Scamp sisters from
Lady and the Tramp 2, Sis from Robin Hood, and
Marie from the Aristocats. I don't like the Disney
sisters, apparently. Yeah. My number eight is
The Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland.
I think that's an excellent choice. Off with
their head. I think that is an excellent choice.
Off with Mike's head. That's the only thing she
is good for is saying off with your head. Exactly.
Yeah, so that's my number eight. What about you,
Tara? My number eight, it's the same as Kevin's
number nine, the geese from the Aristocats. I
hate them. I don't like them as characters. They're
so annoying, and I just really would like to
go up to them and tell them to shut the hell
up. If I could. My number eight is going to cause
the universe to stop existing. Oh. My number
eight is the Queen of Hearts. Okay. Which is
exactly what you had for number eight. Okay,
well, we agree. What are the chances that we
would both put someone on the exact same number?
It happens. Great minds think alike. That's why
you're the next choice. My number seven is the
Stepsisters from Cinderella. They both have annoying,
nasally, horrid voices. They both don't know
how to dress. They have no fashion sense whatsoever.
They have ugly clothes that the mice were able
to turn into something beautiful. And they're
just bitches. No, they're not bitches. That's
putting it mildly. Yeah. Yeah. What about you,
Terry? Your next one. My number seven is Zazu
from The Lion King. He has to stick up his ass,
like we said in the Lion King episode. I don't
like him. He's annoying. He's one of the most
annoying characters from Lion King. We have had
no love for Zazu. No, I don't like him. He's
a dodo. He's a dodo. How about you guys? My next
one is the Grand Duke from... Sleeping Beauty.
No, Cinderella. Talking about guys with sticks
up their asses. Yeah, exactly. My number six.
I really fought with this one, but The Stepmother
from Cinderella. Interesting. The only reason
why I say she's a worst character is because
she's Maleficent without the horns. I mean, honestly,
it's just a copy in all senses of the word. If
you look at the woman's face, it's almost the
exact same animation model as Maleficent's face
with a few different angle changes. It's the
same type of clothing. Obviously, it's the same
voice actor. The voice was amazing. I love that
woman's voice for those characters, but it's
just a complete copy from Maleficent. Mm -hmm.
Yeah, so what about you, Tara, for number six?
Funny thing for my number six is what Kevin just
mentioned, the Duke. Or, I guess, don't say pay
tier. Yeah, there's, no, we didn't plan this
at all. No, we didn't plan this at all. Yeah,
how about you, Jeb? My next one Mike's not going
to like, but my next one is a combination of
Sir Ector and Sir Kay from Sword and Stone. I
just could not stand those two guys. All right,
I liked Sir Ector, but yeah, I agree with you
on Sir Kay. Sir Kay is a dickhead. Kay is a dumbass.
I don't like either one of them. Kay's a dumbass,
let's just say that. I like the voice for Sir
Ector, but yeah, his overall character... Number
five. Sykes. From Oliver and Company. I'm not
even going to remember who that is. I don't remember
who that is. The owner of the Dobermans. Oh,
yeah. Sykes. Gotcha. The one in the car that
died by train. He was pretty cruel. He was all
right, but it was just like, really? Pretty cruel
person. Yeah. Oh, cruel. I thought you said cool.
No, cruel. Yes. He's very cruel. Yeah, so what
about you, Tara, for number five? You're going
to laugh when you hear this. It shouldn't come
as a surprise, though. Snow White. Nice pick.
Yeah, I'll have more to say on that later. I
was just doing some research on Snow White, and
a lot of people do put her as their worst, and
I have to agree with them, because she makes
you cringe a little bit. She just looks, just
her character, like she's too... Perky, too.
How do I put it? It seems like she's on something.
I can't really put my finger on it, but she's
just... I used to love her and think she was
so pretty and blah, blah, blah, but now I see
her and I'm like, okay, one of the worst Disney
characters of all time. Yes, she is. I'm actually
going to go also with a lead character for my
number five, and Mike's not going to like me
again, I don't think, but I can't stand Peter
Pan. The actual character of Peter Pan, I just
don't like him. I liked some other characters
in that movie, but Peter Pan was not one of them.
I liked his interactions with Hook, and I liked
his trying to get the shadow back, but other
than that, yeah, he treated Wendy like crap,
and I don't like him for that. What a douche.
I know a lot of people like him, but not me.
And like Kevin earlier, he ranked the Mermaid
Sisters, and that's my number four. Oh, my God.
Please shoot me now. I never want to see those
bitches again. Oh, my God. I agree. Yes. What
about you, Tara, for number four? Edgar the butler
from the Aristocats. Another cruel animal person.
Yes. Yep. Yeah, I hate people who don't like
animals. So, yeah. I'm going to stick with my
lead characters again, and for number four, go
with Pinocchio. I don't know. The dude is so
stupid. He's letting all these characters tell
him exactly what to do, and it's like, let's
just give in to peer pressure every single time.
I just can't stand Pinocchio. Number three, Mike.
Marina Del Rey. For those of you that don't know,
Little Mermaid. Yes, she is the Ursula stand
-in for the Little Mermaid, Ariel's Beginning.
Marina Del Rey, it's an okay character. It would
have fit better if we had her as a young Ursula
instead. No, seriously. I agree with you there.
It would have been better if she was... a younger
version of Ursula because, as I said in episode
89, there would be a way to show the history
between Triton and Ursula. So that's my number
three. What about you, Tara? Drizella. Oh, the
Cinderella stepsisters, yeah. Yeah. I like Anastasia
more than I like Drizella, and I said this in
the Cinderella episode, but Drizella is just
such a fucking bitch. Yes, she is. She really
is. She's like some of the girls that I knew
in school, like in high school, and in junior
high school, who were exactly like her. And she's
just... I hate her. She is a Jap. If there's
any Disney anime here that's a Jap, it's Drizella.
My number three is going to be similar to my
number four. My number four is Pinocchio, and
my number three is Lampwick from Pinocchio. That
kid that made him smoke and drink. Oh, the donkey.
The donkey kid. First of all, he disturbed me
because I didn't like how he looked. He was a
dumbass, and then he starts turning into a donkey,
which kind of freaked me out. Yeah, I'm not a
big fan of Pinocchio or Lampwick. I would have
freaked anybody out, man. Down to the top two.
I didn't want to put this person at number two,
but it has to be there. I've got a feeling I'm
going to get upset. First of all, I don't like
the person that voiced the character, and I just
don't like the character in general. Georgette
from Oliver and Company. That's all right. Oh,
my God. Just that song that she sings. Oh, my
God. It's like nails on a chalkboard. It's like
her and Drizella got together to sing a song.
Oh, my God. Oh, God. Did anyone else want to
put cotton in their ears during that scene? Yeah,
that's exactly what you'd stare for number two.
Marina Del Rey. Excellent. We're getting a lot
of repeats now, so that means they must be bad.
Yes, yes, Kevin. My number two is also a repeat,
Snow White. I don't understand why anybody thinks
that she shouldn't even qualify as a Disney princess
because she's, first of all, ugly, and second
of all, I don't know, I just don't like anything
about her. I'll just sum it up with that. Yes,
and my number one worst Disney character of all
time, Snow White. There we go. Because of everything
that Kevin just said, plus it makes no damn sense.
She's supposed to be this young girl. She has
no, you know, there are no adults around whatsoever.
I don't think her father was ever mentioned in
the movie. It's not like Cinderella where her
father passed away. Yeah. You know, there's no
mention of a father. There's just mention of
an evil stepmother queen. And like Kevin said,
she's pretty much a frigging albino. Not that
there's anything wrong with her. No, seriously,
I mean, you know... Snow White's outline? Yeah.
She is pretty pale. Yeah, that's the character,
Snow White. Yeah, that's my number one. She's
whiter than me. Oh, dear. My number one is the
stepmother. Oh. I love the stepmother amongst
you two. No, I don't like her at all. I hate
her. I'll stay with your theme, but go a little
bit different, because my number one is Anastasia
and Drizella, the stepsisters. I can't freaking
stand those two, and every time they're on screen,
I want to throw something at the TV or shut them
off. Just put the mute button on. Can we go Cinderella
back in time and remove them from ever being
existing? Oh, yeah, they should not in the time
travel episode. Stop her from ever being pregnant.
Wow. No, make the dad not fall in love with the
stepmother. There we go. Wow. So those are your
worst Disney characters of all time, people.
Agree or disagree, let us know. We don't care
either way, though. We'll tell you you're wrong.
And yes, most definitely, especially Kevin. But
anyway. So the second top list that we're going
to do is top five Disney villains. These consist
of what we think are really, really good Disney
villains. Best villain -wise. Yes. And, of course,
again, this is just opinion. So the lists on
this one are probably going to really, really
vary. I'm going to start number five. The cards
from Alice in Wonderland. I love the cards. The
cards are awesome. They're technically not really
villains, but they're villains by association.
They're henchmen. Yeah, but they're not like
that. It's not like they have an evil plot out
there. They're technically a secondary character,
but I love the cards. Or painting the roses red.
I just love that. That's so awesome. What about
you, Tara, for number five? For number five,
I have Scar. That's interesting. I like that.
I think he was pretty well done. Can I do a tie
for honorable mention or something before I do
my number five? Am I allowed to do that? I guess,
yeah. I have to give a shout out to Scar and
Captain Hook as honorable mentions for me. They
didn't make my list, but I want to give them
a shout out. But my number five is The Wicked
Witch from Snow White. I know you said you didn't
like her, but to me, that is one of the creepiest,
scariest, most traumatic villains that Disney's
ever created. If I ever saw her on the street.
I'm pretty sure when I had nightmares as a kid,
she was in them. She was probably in them. So
they must have done a good job. I didn't want
to eat apples after that movie, I'll tell you
that. Exactly. And what about your number five,
Kev? That's my number five. Oh, okay. I'm not
paying attention at this point. All right, so
my number four is Shere Khan. That's pretty good.
Yeah, I absolutely love the tiger for Shere Khan.
It was going to be a tie between him and Ka,
because I kind of like Ka a little bit more,
but Shere Khan won out in the end. And honestly,
it's... more for... In Jungle Book, it was okay,
and obviously that's what we're doing this for,
but another thing that played into it for me
was how he was portrayed in Tailspin. Nice. Tailspin
reference, that's always good. Yes. Tara, what
about your number four? Jafar. 100 % Shafar.
I love him in Aladdin. Best choice of a villain
for that movie. He does it so well, and he's
really awesome. Number four. Number four for
me is Ursula. I think she was a very good choice
for that one, and she just embodied gross, evil,
nastiness, and just, I don't know. I just think
she was a very good villain for that movie. Yep.
My number three is Captain Hook. Captain Hook
is awesome for the simple fact that, and it would
probably be a tie between him and the croc, because
just the whole interaction between him and the
crocodile is amazing. And again, I have to make
another reference. I absolutely loved Dustin
Hoffman bringing Hook to life, especially with
the whole thing with the croc in the 1995 Hook
film. That was amazing. But the animated Hook
is a very good villain as well. Tara? My number
three is Maleficent. As I was saying prior to
this record, I believe that she is one of the
most badass... female villains in Disney villain
history. And I believe she's the only Disney
villain in the history of Disney films to actually
say the word hell in a film. Nice. Because, yeah,
the scene where she turns into the dragon and
says, I will destroy you with all the burning
fire powers of hell. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, so number three is Maleficent. Well, since
Maleficent said hell, I'll kind of be on the
same strain with devil, but this time Cruella
de Vil. No pun intended. Yeah, no pun intended.
She's pretty darn just nasty, and she's, I don't
know, she's the type of person that you would
never want to be around in your entire life,
and she's cruel, and she wants to make fur coats,
and I don't know. But I think it was well done.
Yes. And while your typical Disney villain, she
had a different look to her, so I kind of liked
that. Well, yeah, plus that's because 101 Dalmatians
had a completely different look from any other
Disney film. Yeah. What's your number two? Jafar.
I can see that. Jafar was... Plus, I already
know what your number one is, so that's all right.
And you'll find out why my number one is my number
one, because it actually is because of my number
two, but I'll bring that up when I talk about
number one. If that made any sense, which it
probably... No, it didn't. It will, eventually.
It will all make sense. But Jafar was awesome.
He was evil. He was conniving. He was short of
a... stalker towards Jasmine. Oh, yeah. So, yeah,
that's my number two. What about you, Tara? My
number two is Ursula. Got some more repeats.
Geniuses. Yeah, more repeats. Yeah, we're having
a theme here tonight. More repeats. Yeah, Ursula,
I have to agree with what you said. She embodies
evil and disgusting and vile very well. Yeah.
And she's just nasty, so. You guys have already
said all mine. My number two is Maleficent. She
turns into a freaking dragon. Enough said. That
should transition well into your number one.
Yes, my number one is Maleficent. Jafar and Maleficent
should have children. Oh, God. The reason why
I say that is because if anyone... They're both
sorcerers? Well, that, but... And they both kind
of look alike as far as their overall look and
design. The reason why I say that is because
they play so well off of each other in Kingdom
Hearts. Oh, I was just going to make that reference.
Yep. That's a pretty good choice. Yes. number
one. My number one is Cruella de Vil. Again,
we did not plan this. No, we didn't. And I love
Cruella de Vil. She's my favorite villain of
all time. Get those puppies! You know, I love
her. I love to hate her and love to love her.
Yeah. Apparently, Mike, we just needed to flip
-flop ours, because my number one is Jafar. Again,
they need to have kids. We've already said almost
as much as we could. Can you imagine it down
in Kingdom Hearts? Yeah, that would be creepy.
Maleficent turned into a dragon. Jafar turned
into a genie. That's both pretty badass things
to do, and they were already creepy enough without
those things. I think we can sum this up as the
best villains of all time are, in any order,
Jafar, Maleficent, Cruella de Vil, and Ursula.
Just make your order. So now we're going to get
into our top ten overall characters for Disney.
These are mostly hero characters for the most
part. And I think our lists are going to very
much differ. Although we've said that twice and
we've come up with almost the same list. No,
I think these lists are very much going to differ.
We'll see. My number 10 is Jasmine. I so wanted
to put her on my list. My number 10 is Jasmine
because of the fact that She is a beautiful princess.
She is one of those ones who wants to be free.
And when she does get free, she doesn't under...
Honestly, she's number 10 simply for her improvisation
in the marketplace scene. If we were making a
list of the best -looking Disney people, she
would be number one on my list. She's very pretty.
Yes. Tara, what's your number 10 for top characters?
Well, before I get to my top 10, I also have
an honorable mention, and it goes out, even though
we haven't covered it yet, it goes out to Belle
from Beauty and the Beast, because I love her,
and she's my favorite Disney character of all
time. But my number 10 goes to Timon from The
Lion King. Timon is hilarious, and he really
stands out for me growing up. So Timon is number
10 for me. I also have an honorable mention I
just want to get out of the way. It's a tie.
It's two of them that I just want to mention,
both from Disney sequels, nonetheless. I'm going
to throw out Scamp and Patch as just a shout
-out. That's all I want to give them. My number
10 is a similar character to what Tara said,
actually, is Abu from Aladdin, another one of
the comedic kind of sidekicks. And I just love
Abu, and he's hilarious, and he adds a lot to
the movie. So that's my number 10. My number
nine is the genie from Aladdin. We've had three
Aladdin mentions so far. I love genie for the
simple fact that it's Robin Williams voicing
him, and he is just so hilarious. A tie for this
would actually be the marketplace little dude
in the beginning of the film. Oh, yeah. Because
Robin Williams also voiced that character as
well. Peddler. Yeah, yeah, the Peddler. But Genie,
just amazing character. Tara, what's your number
nine? You're going to laugh. Same as what you
just said. Genie. I love Genie. And for sure,
just because, yeah, Robin Williams is amazing
as a Genie. And I love him. I am not going to
say Genie for number nine. Can I say Phil Harris?
Is that allowed? Baloo slash Little John is my
number nine. They're basically almost the same
character anyway, but just so much fun, and I
love the interaction that both of them have with
the main characters. So Baloo slash Little John
for number nine. Get out of my head, number eight.
I don't have any repeats. Yes. I just specifically
wrote down Baloo, but I do agree with you as
far as Baloo and Little John. Tara? My number
eight goes to Jasmine. Wait. How the hell did
this happen? So far we've had Abu, Jasmine twice,
and Genie twice. Yep. All right. I think with
my next one, things will change up once we get
to it. But, Kevin, what's your number eight?
Oh, let's see. My number eight, I've got to lump
these two together. It's Jack and Gus, the whatever
you want to call them, the mice from. Okay. Aw.
I forget which movie they were in. Cinderella,
but it's Jack and Gus. I don't care what the
internet says. It's Jack to me because whenever
I hear the name Jock, I think of Jock as in Jock
and Trusty. Yeah. I'll just pronounce Jock. Whatever.
Yeah. Let's not get into that. Yes. My number
seven is Adult Simba. For the simple fact that
Matthew Broderick voices him and it's Ferris
Bueller as a lion. Yeah. I also liked his character
development a little bit and just the way that
the story kind of comes full circle in Lion King
2. True. What about you, Tara, for number seven?
Aladdin. That's why number seven is Aladdin.
This is our sixth. Aladdin reference. We can
just stop recording now and just say everyone,
the whole top ten is going to be Aladdin, Aladdin,
Aladdin. Yeah, I love Aladdin just because he's
kind of badass to me. A little bit. He's just
like, he's got this attitude about him and he's
daring and dashing and he's a really cool guy,
so that's why he's my number seven. At the same
time, he's also... kind and caring because he
does give his bread away to the kids. The poor
kids, yeah. What about you, Kev, for number seven?
My number seven is the genie. So that's the seventh
Aladdin reference. And as you said, it's freaking
Robin Williams. And his performance as a genie
is one of the best acting jobs of all time. It's
just amazing, especially if you were just limited
to animated stuff. But even outside, it's just
hilarious. He makes that movie so much better.
And yeah, Genie. Yes, exactly. Number six, Mike.
Adult Kovu. The reason why... Huh? I said interesting.
The reason why I pick Adult Kovu, again, goes
to voice acting because I absolutely love the
fact that it was Jason Marsden. It also goes
to the fact of his character development. Because
he kind of... The whole Kiara and Kovu love story,
obviously, as we said in episode 90, mirrors
Simba and Nala, but Kovu has this brooding thing
about him, but he also wants to do the right
thing, but he also wants to be honorable to his
mother. But obviously, the doing the right thing
wins out in the end, so at least he makes that
good decision, kind of showing that he's not
like Scar at all. So that's one of the reasons
why I like Kovu. What about your number six,
Tara? Robin Hood. First non -Aladdin reference.
Exactly. Yeah, I love Robin Hood. He's also badass
and really cool, and he's also really funny,
like when he does the whole stork thing. Oh,
yeah. That's hilarious. And when he goes to Maid
Marian and flirts with her, and she's like, who's
this guy flirting with me? Oh, wait, it's Robin
Hood. I love Robin Hood. My number six is from
the same movie. Alan O'Dell, the rooster guy
that does the beginning and the end. Something
about him I just love. I can't explain it. I
don't know if it's the voice. I don't know if
it's the singing. I don't know if he's just all
kind of laid back and southern style type guy,
but he's just cool. My number five is the fairies
from Sleeping Beauty. Flora, Fauna, and Meriwether.
Interesting. The reason why I picked them as
my number five is because of the fight that they
have. And they start using magic, and of course
it gets them found out, but just the fact that
Flora, it's more Flora and Meriwether, not Flora,
Fauna and Meriwether. that go back and forth.
They're just kind of hilarious, and they're overall
really, really great characters. I agree. I thought
about them for a split second, but I didn't put
them in there. My number five is Pongo from 101
Dalmatians. And the reason for this is because
he is a really cool and really spunky dog. and
I love him for that. And he was just one of my
favorite dog characters from Disney. So Pongo
is my number five. My number five is actually
unique, I guess, for my list, because most of
my lists consist of the same type of people.
But I'm going to give Jiminy Cricket my number
five. That dude's so cool. How can you not like
Jiminy Cricket? I've never met anyone that doesn't
like Jiminy Cricket. It's a good thing I didn't
put him on my list for bad characters, then.
You almost did. I almost did. Jiminy Cricket's
awesome. My number four is Merlin. Blow me to
Bermuda! Merlin was awesome as a fish and a squirrel.
He was a pretty cool guy. Yeah. And he makes
them sick. Especially in that movie because it's
full of uncool guys. Yep. Just kidding. Knock
it off. What about you, Tara? What's your number
four? My number four is the original Cinderella.
So Cinderella from the first movie, not the second
movie. Because I love her. She's just, she's
awesome. And great heroine. So, yeah, Cinderella.
Gavin? My number four is actually Thomas O'Malley
from the Aristocats. Because he is the... essence
of cool cat like he's a cool cat he is just a
pimp and he just struts around and he but he
also cares about the kids and he's a romantic
guy but he's also i don't know i thomas o'malley
he's a he's cool Just like Sebastian's a pimp
and crab. Exactly. This is really, really weird.
And again, I have to say to the listeners and
to the Ustream viewers, I think we only have
one person on Ustream right now, David. Thank
you for coming out, David. Kevin's number four
and my number three would probably get into a
fight over coolness. Nice. The artful Dodger
from Oliver and Company. Billy Joel as Dodger.
Oh, man, I love that character. Thomas O'Malley
would win that fight, though. No, Dodger's...
Dodger almost made it, like, at number 10 for
me, but... Dodger is awesome for a couple of
reasons. Dodger is awesome because it's Billy
Joel in his first ever and probably... I think
it's his first ever and only voice role, as far
as I know. I know it's his first ever voice role.
I don't know if it's the only thing he's done
in voice acting, but it just... The character
of Dodger was very, very cool in that movie.
What about you, Tara, for number three? Funny
you should mention number three. It's Sebastian.
Like I said, pimp and crab. Can't go wrong with
that. I feel bad. The rest of mine have already
been set by people. Number three is Simba. Preferably
the young Simba, but just Simba in general. I
don't know. I could just relate to him so much.
Maybe it was just because he lost his dad. I
don't know what it was, but I just loved Simba.
I don't know. He was just a cool lion. He wasn't
a cool cat. He was a cool big cat. Number two,
Mike. Flounder. Both from Little Mermaid 1 and
Little Mermaid 2. One of the reasons why I liked
him in 2, as I said in Episode 89, was because...
We got to see what happened to Flounder, and
he actually grew up and, you know, has a life,
I guess, under the sea. But Flounder was always
really cool. He's Ariel's best friend. I really
like Flounder. Aw. Number two, Tara. My number
two has already been said as well. It is the
adult version of Simba. Again, Ferris Bueller
as a lion. You can't go wrong. Yes. True. Kevin?
My number two, to go back to what we were doing
before, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
The eighth reference now, Aladdin. Come on. Every
boy would trade places with Aladdin in a heartbeat.
Of course. First of all. He has a genie and a
magic carpet and a monkey. And any guy that,
you know, if you're a boy and you're offered
a magic carpet, a genie, and a monkey, you're
in heaven. And then you get to marry the hottest
Disney character of all time in Jasmine and become
royalty. Someone tell me how you can top that.
Good deal right there, man. Only that Hobbit
in real life. I want to be a lad. Mike, what's
your number one? Robin Hood. Yes, Robin Hood
is amazing just for the simple fact that he talks
Little John into doing all this stuff. And again,
for the fact that Disney can pull off stuff like...
Robin Hood in drag, copping a feel on Little
John. Oh, no. Not that scene again. Oh, God.
Let's not go there again. That was just so hilarious.
I found that really, really funny. I didn't notice
that until you screenshot it and put it up. Then
you know I can't help but look there. We had
one, two, three, four, five, we had eight references,
and Aladdin did not make your list. No, he didn't.
I like Aladdin. He's really, really great. But
I was trying to come up with my number one overall
character. And one of the reasons why I like
Robin Hood is because he is kind of the originator
to one of my DC heroes, one of my Justice League
heroes that I like, which is Green Arrow. So
that's why Robin Hood gets number one. I mean,
Aladdin is awesome. I agree with what you guys
said, but I don't know. I was just going off
the top of my head when I was making the list.
Oh, that makes sense. That's okay. So your number
one is Robin Hood, and Tara, your number one
is? My number one is Ariel. I love Ariel. I love
Little Mermaid. And Ariel, to me, is just an
amazing character. She embodies a teenage girl
so well. And I just love her, so that's why I
gave Ariel number one. And since I can't put
Bella's number one, Ariel gets number one. I'm
sure we'll have another recap show when we get
to the Disney season. My number one best character
of all time is, like Mike, Robin Hood. He is
just... With everything that I said about Aladdin,
Aladdin probably should be my number one, but
Robin Hood just has that extra old -school cool
factor. He's just a smooth operator, and I don't
know. I go with Robin Hood. Yes, and we're going
to kind of switch it up a little bit. We're going
to actually talk about least favorite songs and
most favorite songs from the Disney films and
stuff. I think we're going to switch the order
up as well. Tara, Kevin, then me, because I didn't
actually write any down. Tara, what are your
least favorite songs? Do you want me to go through
all of them or just one at a time? I don't think
we're all going to have the same amount on this
one, so just go through whichever songs you don't
like. All right. My first one is The Morning
Report. From The Lion King. Yes, The Lion King.
I hate that song. Second one is The Siamese Cat
Song. Yeah. Don't want to hear that song ever
again. Scales and Arpeggios from the Aristocats.
It's so annoying. It's a really annoying song.
And another one is He's a Tramp from Lady and
the Tramp. I just really don't like it. Sorry,
guys. I just don't like it. I don't like that
one either. I didn't think about that one, but
I don't like it either. I agree with you on the
Morning Report. That song's terrible. I don't
really have a ton of Disney songs I just hate.
but half of them from Alice in Wonderland I hate.
Specifically the one when they're with the walrus
and whatever, but the one that I'm thinking of
most of is the flower song, All in the Golden
Afternoon. I just could have done without that
whole scene, so the song just didn't help much.
I'm sure there's other songs I don't like, but
I just can't think of them right off the top
of my head. I'm going to cheat and agree with
all of you. Because seriously, at this point,
I can't, I mean, you know, Morning Report I agree
with. The Golden Flower song I agree with. You
know, I'm trying to think if there was, oh, I
couldn't stand it because of just the way the
song was. It's not that I don't like the scene,
but the whole, the song that Louie and Baloo
danced to in Jungle Book, I just, Was it King
Like Me or Swing Like Me or whatever? I didn't
like that scene in the movie, but it's more so.
I didn't really care for that song. Oh, I know
what is actually the worst song of all. Drizella
singing Anything. Let's not have Drizella sing
ever or even open her mouth. So now we're going
to switch it up to favorite songs, and I'm actually
going to go ahead and take this one really quick.
Circle of Life, Can't Wait to be King, Street
Rat. What's the other one? Oh, man. Not Bippity
Boppy, but what the hell is the one in Sword
in the Stone? I don't know. I don't like any
of the songs in Sword of the Stones, so I don't
know. It's the one where Merlin is teaching him
crap, I can't think of. Just Google it. All the
stuff and the squirrel. Just Google it, Mike.
Everyone knows what you're talking about. What
was the other one? If I had to pick an overall
most favorite song, it would probably be... The
number that Genie did going into the palace on
the giant Apu elephant. Gotcha. Prince Ali? Yeah,
Prince Ali. There you go. What about you, Tara?
My favorite songs in no particular order is Under
the Sea, A Whole New World, Hakuna Matata, Can
You Feel the Love Tonight, and Part of Your World.
Yes, I agree with most of those. They're all
beautiful songs. Yeah. I actually only have three
songs that are not part of either Lion King,
Little Mermaid, or Aladdin. One of them is Once
Upon a Time in New York City. I don't know why.
I just like that song. Most of the songs from
Robin Hood, especially Nottingham, Bare Necessities
from Jungle Book, Hakuna Matata, Under the Sea,
Kiss the Girl. But my top four would be Part
of Your World, One Jump Ahead from Aladdin. I
just can't wait to be king from Lion King, and
easily my all -time favorite is A Whole New World.
Aw. Good choices. Yep. Now we are going to move
into what Kevin really hates, which is top three
and bottom three Disney sequels, basically best
and worst Disney sequels. Oh, get me started.
I'm going to start with the worst. So my bottom
three are... Number three, Cinderella 2. Number
two, Little Mermaid 3, or Little Mermaid Ariel's
Beginning. And number one, 101 Dalmatians 2,
Patch's London Adventure. Ridiculous. You're
not saying that because of me. No, not actually.
There's no way that is worse than my number one.
Okay, well, what's your top three? You know what
I mean. All Disney sequels are pretty bad, but
the worst of the worst are tied on number three
for me between Little Mermaid 3, which was on
Mike's list. And I actually know some people
like it, and I think you like it, Mike, but I
do not like Return of Jafar. It's okay, but I
don't like it. I prefer Aladdin and King of Thieves.
Yeah, so that's my tie for three, Little Mermaid
3 and Return of Jafar. My number two is Lion
King 1 1⁄2. I wanted to like it, but it just
doesn't work. Yeah, I know. And easily, easily
the worst Disney sequel of all time, way worse
than 101 Dalmatians 2, is Cinderella 2. It was
on my list. It was a number three. It should
have been number one. No. Let's do Tara for your
worst. My worst? Oh, Cinderella 2. No surprise
there. Little Mermaid 3. And Lion King 1 1⁄2.
Wow. I agree with Tara. Enough said. All right,
and top three Disney sequels mine are number
three is Lady and the Tramp 2, number two is
Cinderella 3, and number one is The Lion King
2. Interesting. Cool. My top three sequels, even
though they're still sequels, number three is
a tie between Lady and the Tramp 2. And 101 Dalmatians
2. Barf! My number two, it's much better than
Mike admits. And number two is Simba's Pride,
Lion King. And number one is King of Thieves
from Aladdin. Nice. What about you, Tara, for
top three sequels? Mine, number three, Aladdin
3, King of Thieves. Number two, Aladdin 2. No,
Aladdin is not on. Yeah, sorry. These are just
the sequels to Aladdin. And my number one top
sequel is Lion King number two, Simba's Pride.
I agree with two of them. We didn't plan this
at all. No, guys, we didn't talk about this at
all on Skype. No, seriously, we didn't. Because
I was sitting here, while I was talking, I was
like a little mermaid, and I was just like mumbling
off titles, and Kevin's like, shut up, don't
tell us now, we'll all go. So we didn't know
that. We didn't know any of these top lists ahead
of time. We just kind of went with the flow,
and then it turns out that we have the same ideas.
Except for that 101 Dalmatians stuff. 101 Dalmatians
2 is the worst. Oh, God. It's not worse than
Cinderella 2. I watched 20 minutes of it, and
I couldn't even watch the rest. All right. Finally,
for the top lists, we're going to do the top
and bottom five Disney movies. Out of the 16,
we're covered. Right. Out of the 16 episodes
and 16 movies that we covered on ToonCast. And
I think we're just going to list these off. Each
person is going to each give their top five.
So my bottom, well, you know what I mean. Each
person is just going to say really quick what.
My bottom five is five, Cinderella, four, Aristocats,
three, Peter Pan, two, Pinocchio, and number
one is Snow White. Your hate for Aristocats astounds
me. I don't. It's a cat version of 101 Dalmatians.
But anyway, Kevin, what about you for your bottom
five? All right. Number five, 101 Dalmatians.
Number four, Peter Pan. Number three, Snow White.
Number two, Pinocchio. Sorry, Mike. Number one,
Sword in the Stone. What? What the hell is wrong
with you? I hate that movie. It doesn't even
fit. I don't even know how it's a Disney classic.
Anyway, go ahead, Tara. Bottom five. Number five,
Jungle Book. Number four, Lady and the Tramp.
Number three, Sleeping Beauty. Number two, Oliver
and Company. And number one, should come as no
surprise, Snow White. My jaw dropped when I heard
a couple of those. Yeah, my jaw dropped when
I heard Jungle Book. Wow. I agree with Snow White.
Yeah. What other ones did you guys not agree
with? I kind of like Lady and the Tramp, and
I know Mike likes Oliver and Company. Yeah, I
like Oliver. So now we're going to do top five.
Number five, Sword in the Stone. Number four,
Oliver and Company. Number three, 101 Dalmatians.
Hold on, we've got to stop right there. What?
Three movies that one of the other people had
on their worst list. Number two, Robin Hood.
And number one, The Lion King. Give me credit
for those two. Bye, Kevin. My top five, again,
my jaw dropped when I heard Tara say it. Number
five is Jungle Book for me. Number four, Robin
Hood, like Mike had. Number three, Little Mermaid.
Number two, Lion King. And number one, it should
be no secret what type of Disney movies I like,
Aladdin. Nice. I still put Lion King ahead of
Aladdin, but whatever. I like Aladdin a little
better. Tara, what about you for your top five?
All right. Number five, Cinderella. Number four,
Aladdin. Number three, Robin Hood. Number two,
The Little Mermaid. And number one, The Lion
King. Excellent. Thank you. I agree with your
tops. You like my bottoms, but you like my tops.
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Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight. I
see a new episode of ToonCast coming this week.
Now that's ToonCast. It is time to put this spotlight
back in the vault, and it will not come, it will
not reappear or reopen the vault until ToonCast
Beyond. Sometime, I think it's season four or
season five of ToonCast Beyond, so Kevin, final
thoughts on the Disney spotlight for ToonCast.
I gotta say, I really enjoy the fact that I re
-went through and watched almost all the Disney
films. Obviously, there's been a few that we're
not covering quite yet, but I like the fact that
I re -watched some of these, because some of
them I haven't watched since I was a kid, and
I like to finally know once and for all what
I feel about some of these films. For the most
part, I could have guessed on some of them. I
knew my favorite movies were the late 80s, early
90s Disney movies. I knew that, and I was not
surprised. It reaffirmed how much I love Robin
Hood, too. It reaffirmed how much Disney sequels
suck, in my opinion. And my biggest thing is,
out of this, I think... The old movies are not
necessarily the best movies, people. I'm sorry.
Some of the early Disney stuff sucked. But I
enjoy how we got to see things progress over
time. We kind of did it, not the first couple
episodes, but then we kind of did it in year,
air date order, and that kind of... let us see
some of the progressions, some of the same voice
actors that were being used, etc. I learned a
lot as far as some of the behind -the -scenes
and the voice actor stuff, but I don't know.
I really enjoyed it, and I really enjoyed having
to watch the regular Disney films again. I did
have to go through some torture of watching the
sequels, though, so I do not look back fondly
upon that. Yeah. And Tara had just joined us
on episode 81, so she wasn't here for the first
part of the spotlight. We recovered Sleeping
Beauty, Snow White, Aladdin, Jungle Book, Oliver
and Company, and Sword in the Stone. So how are
you liking your time on the Disney Spotlight
here on ToonCast? Oh, it's been a blast. I've
really enjoyed joining you guys here on the ToonCast
and getting to chat about some of my favorite
and not -so -favorite Disney films. It's been
quite a journey, and ironically... It was a last
-minute, you know, me coming and joining the
Disney spotlight. I found out you were talking
about the Cinderella franchise. Yeah. And I just
remember that conversation, and you're like,
hey, you want to come on the podcast? Yeah. And
you liked me so much, you're like, okay, you
can be a regular co -host on the podcast. There
you go. Mike, are you going to put a link in
the post on the website for the YouTube video?
Actually, I'm going to put it for both videos,
yeah. Okay. My video and your video. Yeah. Yeah,
Kevin made a really, really great ToonCast Disney
Spot Look Back video, even though some of the
text is kind of skewed. No, I mean, in your first
overall attempt at doing that, it came out very
well done. Actually, as the outro to this episode,
you guys are going to get a treat. I don't know
how much a treat that is. Hold on. I'll talk
about that more once we get to the end of the
outro, but you guys are going to get a treat
at the end of this episode. What are your final
thoughts on the spotlight, Mike? I'm really glad
that we decided to do it. I almost wish that
I had a better plan for it, and I almost wish
that I had broken it up differently rather than
starting it with Sleeping Beauty and Snow White.
And then us doing our favorites. I like that
we did it that way, but I almost wish that we
would have started in air date and just broken
it up into two volumes like we did. I don't care
what Kevin says, but there are some, not all,
but there are some Disney sequels that are good.
Some. That's relatively speaking. Some, not all.
There's maybe like 10 % of them. are good sequels.
In the world of sequels, some are better than
others. Lion King 2 was a great sequel because
it, you know, as I said in episode 90, you know,
Lion King specifically set up for there to be
a sequel. I mean, they probably didn't do it
intentionally when they filmed the movie or when
they put the movie together, but the whole plot
of that movie and the ending, it just set itself
up for a sequel. And the sequel was carried out
very well. Yes, there is a few plot holes in
it, but overall, that was a very good sequel.
I enjoyed Aladdin and the King of Thieves as
a sequel. I enjoyed... What was the other one?
Christ. Cinderella 3 as a sequel. It was very
well done. What? Lady and the Tramp 2, I thought
you had said. Yeah, I like that, but that more
so reminds me of an animated version of Homeward
Bound 2. No, I mean, seriously, we talked about
that when we did Lady and the Tramp episode.
Overall, I'm really glad that the spotlight has
gone the way it's gone, and regardless of what
some moron on iTunes feels that we put too many
sexual condendations in episode 81 with Pinocchio
and... Run Jeremy and all that crap. It was still
hilarious. But anyway. Anyways. Yeah, so overall,
I'm glad that we did do the Disney spotlight.
And I have to call out Pecan Court Michael. He's
another one of our co -hosts. He hasn't been
hosting for a while, but we plan on bringing
him back fairly soon. He's been on a couple episodes
of ToonCast, actually. But when I originally
showed him the schedule of the Disney spotlight,
he's like... These are all Disney films. Why
are you just talking about Disney films, like,
within 12 episodes? And I was like, well, it's
a spotlight on the Disney films. Oh, well, there
are so many other great cartoons you could be
talking about. I was like, well, you know, we've
got to fit it in somewhere, because when ToonCast
first started, you know, I had a plan, but I
didn't, like, have it fully, you know. fully
developed yet, and I wasn't sure, and Kevin and
I had talked about this, do we want to just do
cartoon series like Mask, like Thundercats, like
Silverhawks, like, you know, stuff like that,
or do we want to expand it to animated films?
And we decided to expand it to animated films
since that's also a part of our childhood. And
that's the whole point of ToonCast, is the cartoons
we grew up with. Not just series, but movies
as well. And we've covered some that weren't
series either. We've covered some that were basically
just shorts. Um, you know, as far as like some
of the older stuff that wasn't necessarily a
television series, it was more like theatrical
shorts. So it's basically anything like Tom and
Jerry and Looney Tunes and stuff like that. Yeah.
Right. Um, but I always see those as, as I know
they're not episodic and they are theatrical
shorts, but I always see Looney Tunes nowadays
as episodes because just the way that the DVD
formats them out and all that stuff. But yeah,
anyway, I digress. Uh, so yes, overall, great,
great Disney spotlight. It's been great being
a part of this, and just thank you so much for
letting me, you know, do this. And unfortunately,
this will be Tara's last episode until, I think,
episode 90... It actually depends on what episode
92 will be, but this will be her last episode
until episode 100, because my overall plan when
I first came up with TenCast is episode 93 to
99 is going to be the DC Animated Universe episodes,
I should say. Teen Titans is not in continuity.
And for Kevin, I think 91, the next episode,
91, will be his last episode for a while. That's
right, folks. I'm taking another leave. At least
we wanted to bring you back through phone lines.
Or through the Skype outer space. Also leave
voicemails, though. I won't because I know nothing
about the cartoons you're covering. Yeah, he's
not a DC Animated Universe fan. Shame on you.
I'm a bit of a DC Animated Universe fan. Just
a bit. Not as much as you. So thank you for joining
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feature. You're going to be hearing Disney songs,
but you're going to have to really listen because...
There is a surprise guest singer, and that's
all I'm going to say, and we will leave you with
that. I can show you the world Shining, shimmering,
splendid Tell me, princess, now when did you
last Let your heart decide I can open your eyes
Take you wonder by wonder, over sideways and
under, on a magic carpet ride. A whole new world,
a new fantastic point of view. No one to tell
us no, of where to go, or say we're only dreaming.
Riff raff, street rat. I don't buy that. If only
they'd look closer. Would they see a poor boy?
No siree. They'd find out there's so much more
to do. Bare necessities, the simple bare necessities.
Forget about your worries and your strife. I
mean the bare necessities are Mother Nature's
recipes that bring the bare necessities of life.
Cruella de Vil, Cruella de Vil. If she doesn't
scare you, no evil thing will. To see her is
to take a sudden chill. Cruella, Cruella, she's
like a spider waiting for the kill. Roger, she'll
hear you. Robin Hood and Little John walking
through the forest, laughing back and forth at
what the other has to say. Having this and this
and that and having such a good time. Oodalally,
oodalally, golly, what a day. Oodalally, oodalally,
golly, what a day. Oh, the world will sing of
an English king a thousand years from now. And
not because he passed some laws or had that lumpy
brow. While Bonnie Good King Richard leads the
great crusades on. We'll all have to slave away
for that good -for -nothing John. Incredible
as he is inept, whenever the history books are
kept, they'll call him the phony king of England.
Every town has its ups and downs. Sometimes ups.
Outnumber the downs. But not in Nottingham. Everybody
wants to be a cat. Because a cat's the only cat.
Who knows where it's at. Tell me everybody's
picking up on that feline beat. Because everything
else is obsolete. like they make at home or a
healthy fish with a big backbone. I'm Abraham
Lacey. G. Giuseppe Casey. Thomas O'Malley. O'Malley
the alley cat. The seaweed is always greener.
In somebody else's lake You dream about going
up there But that is a big mistake Just look
at the world around you Right here on the ocean
floor Such wonderful things surround you What
more are you looking for? Under the sea Under
the sea Down where it's better Down where it's
wetter Take it from me Up on the shore they work
all day Out in the sun they slave away While
we're devoting full time to floating under the
sea Yes, you see her Sitting there across the
way She don't got a lot to say But there's something
about her You don't know why But you're dying
to try You wanna kiss the girl Did you hear something?
Yes, you want her. Look at her, you know you
do. It's possible she wants you too. There is
one way to ask her. You don't take a word, not
a single word. Go on and kiss the girl. Sing
with me now. My, oh my, look at the boy too shy.
Go on and kiss the girl. Ain't that sad? It's
too bad you're gonna miss it again. Hakuna Matata.
What a wonderful phrase. Hakuna Matata. Ain't
no passing craze. It means no worries for the
rest of your days. It's our problem. beware.
Well, I've never seen a king on beasts with quite
so little hair. I'm gonna be the main event like
the king was before. I'm brushing up on looking
down. I'm working on my roar. And thus far, a
rather uninspiring thing. Oh, I just can't wait
to be king. Well, that's a long way to go, young
master, if you think. No one's saying do this.
No one said be there. No one said stop that.
No one said see here.
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