Disney’s Robin Hood

Indeed I am, Michael, and I am here to help you

and Kevin take over podcasting. Yes, thank you,

Brain. I am TF2 and Mike and I am joined by Kevin

Optimus Solo Thompson. Hello, sir. Good day to

you. And we didn't want to sully, uh... Tooncast

episode 87 with all this stuff. So we have some

old business We need to discuss seeing as how

Kevin, you know was off in outer space somewhere

for episode 86 He had some stuff he wanted to

bring up. So I guess the floor is yours Yes,

I don't usually do this but since I've been on

every episode so far of the Disney spotlight

except for this one And since I listened to it

recently, I had some problems with a few things,

but I'm going to be trying to be nice here. Basically,

my major problem was that the two of you spent

15 minutes discussing a movie that neither one

of you had ever seen. Now. It's been spending

an hour discussing a movie we never saw. That's

true. The main reason I have a problem with that

is because I got to throw Mike under the bus

because he tells me by direct... direct order,

directive order, like 66 or something that I

have to watch every Disney sequel because of

our records. And he says, I gotta do it, I gotta

do it. So I have been putting myself through

the pain of watching every Disney sequel and

then the one episode I'm not in, you don't watch

the sequel. Because I didn't think you were gonna

put the fucking sequel in the fucking script.

I fucking said that in the fucking episode. I

know. I said that in the episode. I said that

even before Tara and I recorded it because I

did watch 101 Dalmatians. I love 101 Dalmatians.

I didn't look at the script after you sent it

to me because I thought we were just doing that

movie. I didn't realize you had included Patch's

London Adventure. I knew of that movie, and I'd

seen bits and pieces of it, but I never actually

saw it all the way through. And just as I was

going through the plot synopsis of it and talking

myself through it, it's like, holy fuck, this

is the exact same place they got the idea for

2006 Bolt. You know, and it just, it, oh God.

Hold on though, to make it worse, not only did

you guys talk about a movie you hadn't watched,

and not only was it a sequel in which I'm supposed

to watch them all but you don't. Third, I actually

did watch this sequel. I had actually watched

the damn sequel even though I wasn't on the record

I was more prepared than you but the main reason

I got to bring this up is My other problem is

not only did you talk about it, but you ripped

on it You both decided it was utter crap and

you had neither one of you even seen a minute

of it And the reason I have a problem with that

is because guess what the hundred one Dalmatian

sequel is actually good It's only actually no

it's not you have not seen it since episode eighty

six well let me back up before episode eighty

six i'd seen the trailer and i had seen various

clips of the movie since episode eighty six since

after we recorded it i went back and i found

it i was able to watch the whole movie, and I

still stand by my opinion. Well, at least you've

seen it now. It is one of the worst Disney sequels.

I think it's one of the better Disney sequels,

but that's still not saying much. There's no

way that this is better than Lady and the Tramp

2. I like Lady and the Tramp 2 better, but I

like this better than some of the other sequels

I've been having to put myself through. But on

the other note, as far as the regular movie,

you guys were way too nice to 101 Dalmatians.

I love that movie! That movie rocks! I have never

been a fan of 101 Dalmatians. It is not anywhere

near my top 10 Disney movies. It's not as bad

as some of the other movies we've covered. It's

not as bad as some of the ones that will remain

nameless and some of the early, early Disney

movies. It's better than those, but for some

reason I just never connect with 101 dumb Asians.

I don't know if it's because I'm not a dog fan.

I don't know if it's... I don't know what the

reason is. That's it. Yeah, that's it. You're

a cat lover. You don't like dogs. But seriously,

how do you not like Sergeant Tibbs? You are a

cat person. No, Sergeant Tibbs is cool. There

was cool moments. I like some of the puppies.

I like some of the dogs. I like some of the characters.

And I know Cruella de Villa is one of the best

Disney villains probably ever as far as being,

you know, just true villainy. But... For some

reason, I just don't like this one as much as

I like some of the other ones that we're still

gonna talk about in a few minutes. And I'm not

saying that... I'm not saying... Okay, compared

to everything we've covered so far, which includes

Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, the Cinderella movies,

Lady and the Tramp, Aladdin, Lion King... No,

we haven't covered Lion King yet. Aladdin, Sword

and the Stone, all the stuff that we've covered

before. I'm not saying 101 Dalmatians is the

best. I'm saying it is a movie that... I thoroughly

enjoyed, and like I said in episode 86, it's

a movie I thoroughly enjoyed and I watched it

for enjoyment more so where I wasn't looking

for plot holes or problems. I honestly couldn't

find any. I watched it. No, I don't have any

major complaints with it as far as that type

of stuff. It's just not my thing as far as if

I was having to pick a Disney movie to watch,

I would hardly ever pick 101 Dalmatians. I would

pick Jungle Book. I would pick 101 over Lady

and the Tramp. I mean, I like Lady and the Tramp,

but that's more of And I think it also has to

do with style. No, seriously. I'm just saying

I wouldn't pick either of them. It honestly has

to do with style. 101 was one of the first ones

where Disney was starting the more modern style.

And I think that's one of the reasons why I liked

it the best. Do you know what movie I would pick

most? Oh god. Before that? Aladdin or Lion King.

Robin Hood. okay well yeah so yeah so up next

we're gonna start tooncast episode 87 long ago

a classic legend was born and brought to life

in what disney's finest moment of ingenuity a

story of heroics of nobility and adventure. Disney's

Robin Hood. The special edition. Coming soon

to Disney DVD. Hello and welcome to the 87th

episode of tuning cast brought to you by the

geek cast radio network I am your host to Joe

Mike and Sam joined once again by Kevin optimus

solo Thompson. Hello, sir Today we're going to

be going back into the Disney vault and talking

about Robin Hood. Yes finally So what have you

been up to since episode 85 was your last appearance

watching Robin Hood I've been creating my own

little sporical quizzes. I got some voice actor

quizzes. I got some famous animated ducks and

famous animated rabbits so far. Soon to come

will be famous animated mice and cats and dogs

and bears and I don't know what else I can think

of. Lions and tigers online. I've been doing

some stuff over it behind the voice actors as

far as... I'm updating a few more shows. I also

added a movie recently, which I haven't added

a movie for a while. I've been doing so many

Hanna -Barbera series that I've been adding,

but I just added an entry for Despicable Me because

I have a digital copy because I bought my ex

-girlfriend the DVD of it and she gave me the

disc to upload the digital copy onto my iTunes

before she took it. So I have great quality digital

feed on iTunes of Despicable Me that I can now

watch whenever. So I screen capped all the characters

and put them up there. I haven't put the sound

clips for the voices yet, but I'm going to be

doing that in the next couple days because I

recorded a bunch of sound clips from them as

well. Other than that, just doing records of

the telecast and stuff like that. Doing some

work for projects that will be forthcoming in

future weeks. Yes, future weeks, future months.

Speaking of Despicable Me, I actually just saw

that today as we were recording, as we were recording

Tooncast episode 87, Sunday, January 9th, 2011.

So yeah, I just saw it this morning before we

started the record. I love this movie. All right,

well, hold on. Before you go all gushy, I have

to say, I am not a Steve Carell fan at all. But

I don't like I don't like his brand of comedy.

I don't like him in live -action movies whatsoever

I'm just not a fan of his which is fine. He along

with Will Ferrell and Chris Catan and all those

types of Anyways all those types of like Adam

Sandler, but not Will Ferrell Yeah, because Adam

Sandler is much better than Will Ferrell anyway,

so just think about me. I went into this thinking.

Oh, it's gonna be nothing but the Steve Carell

show and blah, blah, blah, blah. I like the movie.

It's got a good story to it. It's just not my

thing. It's not that I dislike it. Now, I don't

want to mince my words here. I do not dislike

the movie on a whole. It does have a good plot.

It's got a good story. But every time I saw the

minions, I just wanted... Minion movies, that's

it. That's all I need is Minion movies. Well,

there's three Minion movies on the DVD. Right.

I know, but I don't have the DVD. I bought it

through... I didn't buy it. I rented it through

iTunes because I only had enough money to rent

it through iTunes. But I liked it. Like I said,

every time the Minions were on screen, I was

laughing my ass off, literally. Love the minion

mosh pit at the end. That's awesome. Yeah, I

love I know you said you weren't a Steve Carell

fan, but I loved the voice work for grew I like

yeah, I like his voice work. I do I don't I don't

mind Steve Carell doing voiceovers. Yeah, just

his live action No, thanks. I did I did think

date night was kind of funny, but that's another

story, but uh But no, I just, the combination

of the minions and then the way Gru's voice was

done and kind of his little personality quirks

had me laughing almost the entire movie. I mean,

it's just, I love it. I love it when he's sitting

there trying to adopt with the kids and he just

tells this whole little tale about, his little

sad tale and then she brings up his made up wife's

name and he's like, who's dead? Who? Who's dead?

yes yes it was anyways back to Robin Hood anyways

yes so but yeah I you know I did enjoy Despicable

Me so yes let's get into the history lesson for

Robin Hood Robin Hood is an animated feature

produced by Walt Disney Studios, if you didn't

know we were doing the Disney Spotlight, so that

makes sense. It was first released in November

of 1973, the best month of the year. It is number

21 as far as the classic Disney animated series,

and it is based obviously on the legend of Robin

Hood, but uses anthropomorphic animals instead

of people. So like they say, like Alan O'Dale

says in the beginning, this is the animal kingdom's

take on Robin Hood. What do you think about Robin

Hood? I don't remember. Yeah, I do remember the

first time I saw it. It actually became a tradition.

I would always go over to my aunt Judy's house

because she had it on VHS. And for some strange

reason, every time I watched it, I would have

to eat Charleston chews. Charleston chews are

awesome. So Robin Hood and Charleston chews.

This is weird because I remember, I mean, I'm

going to let you keep going. I didn't mean to

interrupt you, but. When my parents I don't know

who they had over I don't know who my mom had

over but she had some other adults that must

have had kids over because I remember the adults

being upstairs and the kids being downstairs

and we would put on Robin Hood every time this

group came over whoever it was I don't remember

which like family friend it was but they would

be making my mom always made this like kick -ass

coffee cake type thing which sounds disgusting

because I hate coffee but coffee cakes good So

I also have a food memory with this Yeah, I don't

know. I remember always wanting to watch this

movie every time I went over to my aunt Judy's

house and I would always eat Charlton shoes while

watching it. Yeah, that's awesome. I absolutely

love this movie, even though when we get to the

actual show a little bit later, Kevin and I are

going to have a lot of argument and debating

over whether Robin Hood is a straight up rip.

uh... from jungle book because i've noticed a

lot of things yeah but that's still a lot of

stuff doesn't take away from robinhood easily

be no it doesn't at all and i don't know not

saying that it does but i'm just saying i have

i watched it uh... yesterday uh... as i said

before we're recording this uh... sunday june

june lovely since it had six months jenuary died

Yeah, exactly. Show's over. It's over. See ya,

folks. No. When I was watching this the other

day, I really enjoyed it, but I noticed some

more things that are straight scene rips from

Jungle Book. Get into that more. Just partially

they are, but no, I really enjoy this movie.

I love, oh, what's the, Nutsy, what's the other

one? Nutsy and Trigger. um i love nutty one o

'clock and oh my goodness that is probably the

most quoted line from a movie i have ever had

as far as myself i say that all the freaking

time and for a long time i didn't know where

i was where i had got it from yeah i re -watched

this but seriously this movie is as good today

every time i watch it as it was the first time

when i was a kid watching it it Holds up so freaking

wealth at least for me like I have never once

watched this and been bored or not liked it I've

loved it every single time. I've seen it Yeah,

I have to this is this is truly a Disney masterpiece

unlike some of the other previous stuff But yeah,

so what about characters and voice actors for

this one? Well, I mean we got some great characters.

Obviously you have to start with Robin Hood the

Fox Robin Hood played by Brian Bedford and made

Marion who is played by Monica Evans They're

your main to you know, the love interest. Everybody

knows the Robin Hood made Marion story So you

got those two but even though I love I absolutely

love Robin Hood's character in this It's really

the side characters that steal this one. And

first off, Little John, who is played by Phil

Harris, who is the... Hi, Baloo. Yeah, the same

guy that played Baloo, and he's just a great,

great voice. You got Andy Devine as Friar Tuck,

who's a badger. Little John's a bear, I didn't

say that before. Yeah. evil characters, I guess,

if you want to call them evil. You have Prince

John, who's played by Peter Ustinov, who's a

lion. And you got Sir Hiss, which is Terry Thomas,

and obviously he's a snake. And then you have

the Sheriff of Nottingham, which is Pat Butcherum,

who has a great, distinct voice. I mean, he hasn't

done, he didn't do a ton of stuff, but he just

has such a distinct voice. And he's old Bushel

Britches, the wolf, the Sheriff of Nottingham.

But those are like some of the main ones. Obviously

you have, you know, Alan Adale, who is the rooster.

that introduces things and kind of does your

little narration from time to time. And you have

Lady Cluck, who's made Marion's, what do you

want to call her? Her nanny made whatever you

call it. I mean, I know there's a technical name

for that. Like you said before, you have Nutsie

and Trigger. And then the three little kids who

are actually pretty funny, Skippy, Sis, and Tagalong,

especially Tagalong the turtle, or Toby, I mean

the turtle. Those are good characters, but I

don't know what what's what's your what's some

of your favorite characters in this one? I like

nutsy and trigger. I like Robin Hood. Obviously

you're you're supposed to like Robin Hood I like

it's not so much. I like the character, but I

like the interaction between Sir Hiss and Prince

John. Yeah Just the interaction with I don't

like like I like Sir Hiss a little bit more than

Prince John, but I mean, everyone's supposed

to hate Prince John and the Sheriff of Nottingham.

That's just Robin Hood lore. You're supposed

to hate those two characters because they're

the bad guys. Well, you also have the cool dynamic

of both with Trigger and with Hiss, that they

always know something's going on, but they're

never given the chance to give a fair warning

or to do what they need to do. to stop it because

of the, I don't know if you want to call it the

egos or the whatever of Prince John and the sheriff

of not listening to everybody else. Yeah, exactly.

I do have to mention a couple other famous actors

that did really small roles. Barbara Luddy did

the Mother Church Mouse and Candy Candido, Mr.

Deep Voice, the only Deep Voice besides the role

of Ravenscroft that's ever in a Disney movie,

did the Captain of the Guards, the alligator

crocodile that introduced the contest, and he's

got a super deep voice, holy cow. And J. Pat

O'Malley did Otto the blacksmith that had the

gold hidden in his cast. So he made another appearance

in this one. Oh, and Barbara Luddy was the mother

rabbit, so she played two roles. So there's a

lot of good voice actors, but my favorite voices

in this one are usually the Sheriff of Nottingham

and Little John. But my favorite character probably,

it's cheating, but it's probably still Robin

Hood just because everybody wants to be Robin

Hood. I mean, how do you not want to be Robin

Hood? And he's just a kick -ass like Rico Suave

character in this film. Well, what's your favorite

and least favorite character I? Don't have a

least favorite for this one. I just I mean I

like them all I mean I have I Guess I'm more

annoyed with the sheriff and Prince John than

anything else But I don't not like them because

you know I can see both points of view unfortunately

But no, I like them all. I would have to say

that my favorites, it's more so I like interactions

than I like the characters, but it's just the

way that they interact with each other like Robin

Hood and Little John and Prince John and Hiss

when he stuffs Hiss in the basket. I think if

I had to pick a least favorite it would actually

be the Sister Rabbit. And that's just if I have

to. She's like, she's one of those middle children

who gotta go buy the book. Yeah. I don't like

it because she laughs at Skippy when he gets

kissed by Maid Marian. Yeah. Bastard. Aw. Way

to traumatize the kid. But no, these characters

are awesome. That's one reason why I love this

so much. Even just the freaking rooster, Alan

O'Dale, that comes in it. I love him, I love

his voice, which was Roger Miller, and I love

his little songs. He's just absolutely fantastic.

A few of the voice actors utilized in this production

are British. However, the decision was made to

cast quite a number of American character actors.

In the traditional medieval roles, many of these

individuals were veteran performers from western

-themed movies and television programs, which

meant that characters like Friar Tuck and the

Sheriff of Nottingham have southern U .S. accents

and mannerisms more associated with the rural

southeastern United States than with England.

The effect was further reinforced by the choice

of country. Singer Roger Miller as the movie's

songwriter and narrator. I love Roger Miller

anyway Yeah, so instead of a completely British

theme we had a little bit of a southern US theme

in this one The Confederates meet the British.

Oops. That's a whole issue But now I guess we'll

get into some of the things that Mike was talking

about as far as behind the scenes because The

film had a pretty small budget, so basically

what happened is they tried to take stuff as

much as they could from all kinds of other movies,

most notably, obviously, The Jungle Book. But,

I mean, they did take a dance sequence from Snow

White. They took things from—Aristocats came

out before this? They must have, because they

said they took a few things from Aristocats.

But most notably is like what Mike was saying.

They took a whole lot of stuff from the Jungle

Book. Yes, and one thing I want to point out

before you go on, one thing I want to point out

before you go on is because I was right and you

were wrong. A notable example is that section

where Little John and Lady Cluck dance together

mirrors part of the song I Wanna Be Like You

from the Jungle Book with Baloo and King Louie

respectively dancing. Whatever. So I told you

when I first watched this, when I first got the

DVD, when I saw that scene, I said, oh, it's

Baloo with King Louie. So, huh. But not only

did they take actual scenes, but they also made

it even almost worse by using some of the same

voice actors. But obviously, Disney does that

all the time. But Phil Harris being both Baloo

and Little John in this one. made it almost seem

even more obvious that there were so many connections,

and obviously there's a lot of things that look

alike. But to me, even with all that stuff, I

never, I know you do because maybe you look for

that stuff a little bit more, but when I watch

Robin Hood, I never see anything else. It never

triggers in my mind, oh, this is from the Jungle

Book, or oh, this is from this, or oh, I've seen

this before. To me, when I'm watching it, I'm

just so wrapped up in the movie that... I don't

notice that stuff. See, I have a switch in my

brain that... No, seriously. I have a switch

in my brain since I've been doing podcasting.

If I'm going to watch something for pure enjoyment,

the reviewer switch turns off and I can watch

it for pure enjoyment. But when I'm watching

something to prepare for a podcast... You didn't

do it for 101 Dalmatians. Shut up. The reviewer

switch turns on. And I start analyzing every

little bit. Another big thing that I noticed

was Sir Hiss is technically a mini version of

Ka. Yeah. In a way. He's not as evil as Ka, obviously,

but the reason why I said it is because his mesmerizing

thing is the same as Ka's jungle book. No, like

I said, if you're looking for it, you'll find

lots of similarities between this and Jungle

Book. And if you're really looking carefully,

I guess you'll find it from a few other movies

like Aristocats and Cinderella and Snow White

and stuff like that. Even Ben Knobs and Broomsticks,

I guess there's some references there. But for

the most part, you're going to see the Jungle

Book stuff. But like I said, it doesn't take

away from the quality of this movie. Yeah, no

it doesn't. And also as far as behind the scenes,

I guess we should talk about that there is an

alternate ending on the most wanted edition DVD.

I watched this and I kind of wish I wouldn't

have. I have the same feeling. It wasn't what

I thought it was going to be. First of all, it's

mostly just still images with like sound tracks

and people talking in the background, but it's

a little darker, I guess, but I don't know. I

just didn't need it. I'm glad they went with

the way they did. Yes. So if you want to watch

that scene, you've got to get the most wanted

edition DVD and you can watch it. But like I'm

saying, you're not missing much if you haven't

seen that. Yeah, you're not. But that's about

all I have as far as behind the scenes. Obviously,

there is just a ton of tie ins with Jungle Book

and yeah, there's really not much else to go

by because unfortunately, the DVD doesn't give

you a lot of behind the scenes stuff. No, yeah,

no, it doesn't. I mean. It doesn't at all That's

the only disappointing thing about this movie

so far for me is the DVD but I guess we can talk

about that a little bit later I mean, it's nice

to have it DVD quality. Yeah, so but I mean,

yeah I guess getting into the actual show five

-minute plot. Yes All right, we obviously have

Alan O'Dale that you know introduces the story

that this is the Robin Hood story version from

the animal planet or whatever you can whatever

he says But the story starts out with Robin Hood

and little John Basically, doing a fortune -telling

gig where they rob Prince John of everything,

basically even his stuff he's wearing, and they

run off. Then it shifts to the scene where you

see the sheriff of Nottingham taxing the people.

Specifically, he goes in and gets Otto the blacksmith

who's on a crutches and has a cast on. He's just

been given some money from Friar Tuck that Robin

Hood had given him. You know, the sheriff knows

that he has some money, so he hits his foot and

takes all his money. So it's just kind of showing

the fact that people aren't happy and they're

getting taxed all over. Then we shift to a scene

with the kids, the little rabbits and the turtle.

And they're basically being kids and playing

games and whatnot. And they end up in the yard

with Maid Marian and Lady Cluck. And it kind

of just gives that dynamic of the fact that Maid

Marian and Robin Hood have a history and that

the kids know who both of them are, et cetera.

And then we kind of get the whole made Marion,

Mrs. Robin Hood scene followed by a Robin Hood

missing made Marion scene. So you have that whole

romantic angle set up. And then we get into the

main part, which is the one of the main parts,

which is the contest that they hold the arrow

shooting contest, archery contest for a kiss

with made Marion. And you have Robin Hood in

disguise trying to win the contest. That's just

a fricking awesome part of the movie. Yeah, it

is. And then you basically have the high moment,

the early high moment where Robin Hood wins and

gets the kisses and everybody's happy and whatnot,

followed directly by the low moments where Prince

John has doubled the taxes and everybody's being

thrown in jail for not being able to pay the

taxes, even our narrator Alan O'Dale. But he

can't catch Robin Hood, so Prince John... basically

concocts another plot to hang Friar Tuck to bring

Robin Hood out and that leads to the climactic

scene where Robin Hood, you know Makes the jailbreak

of everybody and they finally I wind up on top

with the king coming back and Prince John and

the sheriff and the vultures and his I'm going

to start calling them Ka. His all ending up in

shackles in the jail type, even though they're

outside, I guess it's jail. They're doing community

service or something. So that's your five minute

plot synopsis, leaving out all the great parts.

Yeah, one of the great parts was how the money

filtering system. I love that. Uh, and then of

course, oh god. I'm gonna try to do Hiss' voice.

I don't think I'm going to be able to do it correctly,

but, um, please, Thaya, oh god, that's more Daffy.

Please, Thaya, stop fucking your thumb. It's

very loud. I know that's more Daffy Duck sounding,

but, and I love the way that Hiss constantly

sticks his tongue into Little John's ear. Not

Little John, Prince John's ear. Yeah. That was

hilarious. I loved that they made him suck his

thumb. I think that's hilarious. And I love his

voicing at the beginning when he would, or even

sometimes throughout the movie, but especially

in his first couple scenes when he would laugh

and he's even saying, commenting on, oh, it's

time for an evil laugh or whatever. And he's

like, ha, ha. I think some of my favorite parts

though in this movie are Number one the the whole

scene with John the John the worst song I love

when they all go crazy, and I love when they

have the sheriff and his singing The the John

the worst song as Prince John comes in later.

You know after that first part Yeah, I love that

and I love I don't know I have a soft spot for

Alan O'Dale and I love the roosters parts in

both the opening in that and the closing and

when he's in jail I absolutely love it Yeah Really

really good narration. Yeah, what's what's not

what's like your favorite part in the whole movie

if you had to pick one the archery contest yeah,

that's the archery contest and the The jailbreak

when the money's going through yeah, the jailbreak

when the money's going through The other part

that I noticed that was so similar to jungle

book is after they know right before When after

little John and Robin Hood escaped the the first

part of the Sheriff's men and they're up in the

tree Up in the tree Okay. Baloo is, or Baloo,

Jesus Christ. Little John is Mowgli. Robin Hood

is Bagheera. They spot the coach and the elephants,

which technically could be considered Colonel

Hattie and his elephants. Oh, jeez. No, seriously

if you go back and you look at it with a reviewer's

eye and you look at that scene No, I know I know

but I mean Seriously, if you go back and you

look at that scene it is I swear It's just probably

is it probably is it's probably one of the scenes

taken or something. You just don't want to do

it. I know Yeah, so overall great film Other

than some of the and I don't think that they're

bad as far as taking animation from Jungle Book

But as far as you know putting scenes in there

different characters live, but I mean is overall.

I love this movie I have no complaints about

this movie whatsoever. They're the voicing you

know from the even the little kids voicing is

great. You know Everything about it's good. The

story's good. It's not ever really slow. You

have ups and downs. You know, you have characters

to like, characters not to like. You have comedy

throughout. You have good music. I mean, it's

not like Aladdin or Lion King music, but it's

much better than a lot of the other Disney films

we've talked about recently. And I don't know,

I just, I love this film. But I guess we can

talk about a little bit of the trivia. Originally,

Friar Tuck was to be a pig, but was changed to

a badger to avoid insulting religious sensibilities.

The famous gap on Terry Thomas's teeth was incorporated

into the design of the character he voices, Sir

Hiss. kind of makes a handy opening for his forked

tongue to dart out. So actually the voice actor

had a gap in his teeth, so that's kind of funny.

Obviously we always have some either Mickey Mouse

scenes, which we didn't have in this one, or

Castle Thunder. In this one, Castle Thunder is

heard when Prince John and the guards crash through

one of the castle walls during the jailbreak

scene. Other than that, I think... Basically,

the University of Southern California fight song,

Fight On, is played during the chase scene after

the archery contest. And On, Wisconsin, the fight

song of the University of Wisconsin is also used

during the football sequence of this scene. So

they actually brought in a couple actual college

fight songs, so that's kind of interesting. I

think that's about all I got for trivia. Getting

into the music segment, the soundtrack for this

has seven songs. Whistle Stop, Ode Lali, Love,

The Phony King, The Phony King of England, then

The Phony King of England, Reprise, Not in Nottingham.

Not in Nottingham. I love that. I just remember

that one. And then Love Goes On slash Ode Lali,

Reprise, some kind of chorus. Ode Lali, Ode Lali.

I gotta say between the last the last two episodes

this episode and episode 86 I've found that Disney

is found for each film for 101 Dalmatians and

for Robin Hood Just the right amount of songs

for the film like there's some movies some animated

movies have too many songs don't have enough

Some don't have enough but these last two 101

Dalmatians and Robin and have just enough to

carry you through the story. Yeah You know, I

like the music in this one and it's not like

that over the top, like it's not like blockbuster

songs that are just gonna like, you know, be

so freaking popular throughout the country. But

there are songs that are like, if you're a fan

of the movie, you know, especially the Oodle

Alley, the Phony King of England and Nottingham,

just really stick with me. And I don't know,

it's just, they're the type of songs that just

fit the storytelling fine. It doesn't feel like

you're taking a stop. from the movie like some

some movies it feels like you're pausing the

movie and going into a musical number and then

you're going to go back to the movie in this

one it fits right into the storytelling it's

almost like they're starting to talk and then

they kind of go into a song and it fits with

the action and everything that's going on and

it never feels like you're actually taking a

break from the movie if that makes sense Yeah,

that does. It just kind of blends right in and

I like that about it. Most of that's because

of the way they do the rooster's character when

he's narrating and just kind of goes into a song.

Or even some of the other ones like The Phony

King of England, how you have it not just the

song but then it kind of follows in and later

people are still singing the chorus line or whatever.

Right, it's not just like... Sometimes there

are some cartoons not not not just film not just

animated film but some cartoons that will specifically

say let's break into song I hate that shit. Yeah,

this is this is much more It's more ease of transition.

Yeah. Yeah transitions very good. Yeah, that's

the word I was looking for Although a full soundtrack

to Robin Hood has never been released on compact

disc, boo, in the U .S., a record of the film

was made at the time of the film's release in

1973, which included the film's song, score,

narration, and dialogue. On classic Disney, 60

Years of Musical Magic, this includes Oodle Alley

on the green disc and Love on the purple disc.

I gotta take a second, actually, to talk about

these classic Disney 60 Years of Musical Magic,

the disc, because when I used to work at Target,

we had all of these. And I gotta say, I mean,

I guess if you're a big time Disney fan, that's

cool, but they did a really poor job in deciding

which songs from which movies were gonna be on

this. And I just get really frustrated because

some of the songs they include are not, maybe

it's just because it's not my favorites, but

like on this one not to have Nottingham or The

Phony King of England be represented on at least

one of those discs somewhere. is a fail for me.

I'm glad they put Oodalali, and I guess love

is the love song, but that's not even the third

best song in this movie. I found that throughout

those discs. I don't remember how many discs

there are, but I always wanted to pick up these

discs, but then I would look at the back and

read which songs were on which discs, and I was

like, nah, I can make my own disc that's better

than this. So getting into the legacy segment

here, the film was originally released in 1973

followed by a re -release in 1982. The film was

released to videocassette in 1984 and 1991, the

first two being the Walt Disney Classics video

line. 94 and 99, these two were the Walt Disney

Masterpiece Collection video line, staying in

general release since 1991. In 2000, it was released

on DVD in the Gold Classic Collection. On November

28, 2006, the movie was remastered as the Most

Wanted Edition Special Edition in the UK, featuring

a deleted scene, altered ending, as well as a

16 .9 or 16 .9 matted transfer to represent its

original theatrical screen ratio. Robin Hood

was very successful when it was first released

a nine point five million dollars biggest box

office total of all the Disney films at that

time. Yes, that proves that it's awesome, but

And their movie review site Rotten Tomatoes has

a 55 % Rotten rating among critics, summarizing

that it was one of the weaker Disney adaptations,

whatever. Robin Hood is cute. Fuck you, Rotten

Tomatoes. It said Robin Hood is cute and colorful,

but lacks the majesty and excitement of the studio's

earlier efforts. Yeah, because everybody thinks

the first movies are the better movies, whatever.

That's bullshit. But with viewers, it's 91 %

fresh. So that just proves that the populace

is always better at rating movies than the critics.

Damn right. And the film received an Academy

Award nomination in 1973 for best song, which

was Love. So apparently a lot of people loved

that song at the beginning, but that's not one

of my favorite songs from the movie. And we should

also mention it lost against The Way We Were.

What's that from? I think it's a Whitney Houston

song. I could be wrong. Let me open the link

here. We will find it temporarily. The Way We

Were, The Way We Were is... Uh, yeah, film above

romance about... Barbara Streisand. Oh, God,

yes. Fuck that movie. Alright, pretend we didn't

say any of that. Fuck that movie. Alright, so

we are going to go to a voicemail from Tara,

who could not be with us in this episode, and

we'll play some other ads and crap you need to

know about, and we'll be back in a minute. Tooncast

will be back after these questions! Hey Tooncast!

It's Tara, aka The Rising Star here with some

of my thoughts on Robin Hood. Robin Hood is such

an amazing Disney animated film. It has humor,

a great plot, and memorable characters. The classic

story of Robin Hood is turned into something

much more than that. by using animal characters

in the main roles instead of humans. Now, the

characters themselves were so hilarious and so

amazing, it just really made the film for me.

I have to say, Prince John sucking his thumb

was hilarious. I mean, what kind of wannabe king

sucks his thumb? Whenever Prince John got mad,

he would throw this huge temper tantrum, so you

would feel like you're watching a four -year

-old, not someone who's supposed to be an adult

and a king. The love story between Robin and

Maid Marion is also very sweet and very heartwarming.

They're such a cute couple that you can't help

but love them. I have to say, Robin Hood is definitely

one of those Disney films that you will never

forget. And if you haven't seen it, you should

definitely go and watch it. As well as add it

to your collection. Because it definitely is

one of Walt Disney's masterpieces. Hey everybody,

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Tooncast! Hello, this message is for Tooncast.

This is your boy Kevin calling in response to

the 101 Dalmatians episode. I wanted to... Well,

I wouldn't say make a lack of correction, but

it's just something I think you might have...

I said during the history lesson. But anyway,

as you guys were, that guy is Amy Girl actually,

I'm sorry, I don't know your name, forgot the

name. But anyways, during the history lesson,

you were saying something about the studio shooting

footage of live action and putting that into

the animation. And that's actually a standard

practice in animation, like without the source

footage. It's only going to be as good as the

animator's imagination. And once you start using

the source footage, it's only as good as the

person doing the performance. And when I animate,

for instance, I use Maya for my 3D animation.

And I always shoot source footage beforehand.

And it's more so just to get the motion correct

and get convincing key poses. It's more so that

than it is to get the proportion right. Because

if you take a movie like Emperor's New Groove

or something like that, none of the proportions

are anatomically correct. But I can see them

using some source footage just to get the poses

and the motion down and also the timing. But

the correction I want to make is what I think

you were talking about, because I did a little

bit of research on 100 Dalmatians. The technique

is actually called rotoscoping, and that's where

they take the live action footage, take the film

from that, and blow it up, and the animators

will trace right over the footage onto cell paper.

And that's a little bit different from shooting

source footage, because if you're just looking

at the footage as a reference, then that's just...

that's just giving you a general idea and you're

just using it as reference. But rotoscoping,

on the other hand, you're actually using the

film blown up and tracing right over it. So I

think that may have been what you are talking

about there. So just wanted to give you a call

on that, get your thoughts, and have a good evening.

Bye. So before we get into our final thoughts

on Robin Hood, thank you, Kevin, for leaving

that voicemail. No, not you, Kevin. The other

Kevin. Yeah, you clearly know more about animation

technique than we do. Well, thanks for educating

us. Thank you for educating us. I think you are

correct. You are correct, sir. Thank you, sir.

May I have another? And thank you to Tara for...

Leaving her thoughts on Robin Hood we unfortunately

she wasn't able to make this episode, but she'll

be back in episode 88 Yeah, so what else were

we gonna talk about? Yes more voicemails damn

it Yeah, Final Thoughts on Robin Hood is easily,

I don't know, I haven't done any type of ranking

system with my Disney movies yet. I'm kind of

saving that until we're about done with the spotlight.

My guess is Robin Hood's gonna be in my top five.

I mean, I freaking love this movie. I love it

more than any movie that came before it. I mean,

the only ones of its era that are on equal footing

for me is like Jungle Book, which, hmm, that's

odd. No, it's not. Not considering. But yeah,

but I don't know. Like I said, I love the voice

and I love the music. I love the story. I love

the character designs. I have not found one thing

I don't like about this movie. So if you know

something that you don't like about this movie,

I would be interested to hear what it is. So

leave us comments or voicemails or something

on what you don't like about this movie, because

I don't think there's anything someone could

not like about this movie. Yeah, no, there's

nothing. Just nothing. Nothing exactly. So those

are my final thoughts. Yes, my final thoughts

are the same as your final thoughts. There's

nothing that anybody can... Oh god, that's a

horrible image. Like, stop, god. Anyway, there's

nothing that... Nothing bad can be said about

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Robin Hood and Little John walking through the

forest laughing back and forth at what the other

has to say. Reminiscing this and that and having

such a good time. Hoodalolli, Hoodalolli, golly

what a day. Never ever thinking there was danger

in the water they were drinking they just guzzled

it down. Never dreaming that a scheming sheriff

and his posse was watching them and gathering

around. Robin Hood and Little John running through

the forest. Jumping, pinching, dodging trees

and trying to get away. Contemplating nothing

but escaping, finally making it. Oodle lolly,

oodle lolly, golly what a day. Oodle lolly, oodle

lolly, golly what a day. will sing of an English

king a thousand years from now and not because

he passed some laws or had that lofty prowl while

Bonnie Good King Richard leads the great crusade

he's on we'll all have to slave away for that

good -for -nothing John incredible as he is inept

whenever the history books are kept they'll call

him the phony king of England Has its ups and

downs Sometimes ups Outnumber the downs But not

in Nottingham