101 Dalmatians and 101 Dalmatians 2: Patches London Adventure

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Ha -cha -cha -cha -cha! From the name that means

magic in entertainment. This Christmas, Walt

Disney brings you a puppy. Or two. No, no, no!

Ten! Eleven! It's fabulous! And a woman who will

stop at nothing to get them. Fifteen puppies?

How much? All of them. You know, she's a devil.

Oh, a witch. All. 13! Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Six more. Plus two is 11. 36, La Maria! 36 and

11, that's... What? Why is that number, Dad?

99. Have you ever seen so many puppies? 101?

I'll take them all, the whole litter. It's 101

against 1. There somewhere is... in this village

and we're going to find them. But when the one

is Cruella De Vil, then the odds are even. Fergie,

watch out! Walt Disney's 101 Dalmatians. It all

adds up to the gift of magic from Disney this

Christmas. Get outside. Oh, Bangladesh. No puppies

were injured in the making of this podcast. Hello

and welcome to the 86th episode of Tooncast brought

to you by the Geekcast Radio Network. I'm your

host, DFJ Mike, and today I'm joined once again

by the rising star, Tara. Hello. Hey. How are

you? I am really good. How are you? Pretty good,

pretty good. Yeah, Kevin would have been on here,

but he just couldn't make it tonight, so we're

just gonna... The show must go on. Mm -hmm. Pretty

much. That's show biz. Yep. So today we're going

to be continuing the Disney spotlight with 101

Dalmatians. Why don't you take the history lesson

there? Sure thing. So 101 Dalmatians is a 1961

American animated film produced by Walt Disney

and based on the novel by the same name, 101

Dalmatians, by Dottie Smith. It is 17th in the

Walt Disney animated classic series and the film

was originally released to theaters on January

25th, 1961 by Buena Vista Distribution. The plot

centers on the fate of the kidnapped puppies

of Pongo and Verdita. What are your general memories

of this one? I loved it. It was one of my very

early Disney films growing up and I really enjoyed

watching it. I really enjoyed the story and I'm

a dog lover so of course this film really appealed

to me. One thing that I do remember the most

about this film is definitely Cruella De Vil.

Yeah. And she frightened me. I will admit she

frightened me. She was probably one of the most

memorable villains I remember growing up who

I can honestly say really looked the part. Oh

yeah. terms of because I mean this film is It

was pretty modern for its time and I believe

it was one of the early it was one of the first

films to take place during a modern period not

medieval or Some made up, you know made up time.

So it was just it was just awesome To see this

story play out Yeah for me it's about the same

I again this is another one of those Disney movies

that I like but It's not one that I specifically

remember. I don't have a specific memory of watching

this one. I remember watching it multiple times

as a kid. And just really, really well done.

Very much well done as far as that goes. When

I was watching it back today, or when this will

go up, when I was watching it back just to refresh

my memory on this one, I still love this movie.

This movie is just great. One of the things I'll

point out as we kind of go along, but I'll point

it out here now, the dogs are pretty much human

-like. Oh, yes. Well, I don't say that in a bad

way because what I'm kind of getting at is last

episode Kevin said that he didn't like how...

human -esque lady and tramp were in the first

film with the spaghetti and all that stuff. He

wishes they were more, you know, more dog -like.

And for this one, for 101 Dalmatians, it's the

point of view of the dog. I mean, it's the direct

point of view of the dog. I mean, the lady and

the tramp did the same thing, but, I mean, this

does it. even more because you have Pongo narrating,

you have him interacting throughout the entire

film, obviously, and it was just great. I thought

it was so hilarious that he called Roger a pet.

Oh, I love the humor in this film. Yeah. It's

got great humor. It's got a crate. It's got great

characters and I guess you know what? I guess

really why I remember this film is because of

When I was around four or five years old, I just

remember all the merchandise for this film Yeah,

cuz it was still popular and we when I was like

four and a half five years old Yeah, and I just

remember, you know having the 101 Dalmatian shower

curtain and the soap dish and this toy and McDonald's

giving away stuff. I guess that's probably why

I remember it the most, besides just watching

it, but all the merchandise that came out when

they re -released it on VHS. I remember when

they finally released it on 2Disc, I think it

was 2Disc Special or Platinum Edition, one of

those Disney editions. It came with... dog tag

key chains, I think. Aw. Yeah. It came with something

special like that. Which is very, very, very

cool. Just overall, you know, really, really

great, great movie. And the animation style of

it, it was so different than other Disney films.

Yeah, I mean, I know that, cause when Kevin and

I first, when I first brought up to him about

doing Disney films instead of, you know, about

having the Disney spotlight. And for those of

you that have been long -time Tunecast listeners

like Ken Curry, will know that the first part

of the Disney spotlight was kind of like we were

aiming for like the first few Disney films. Like

we did Sleeping Beauty, and then Snow White,

and then we did Aladdin, Jungle Book, Sword in

the Stone, and Oliver and Company. So those were

kind of like, like Aladdin, Jungle Book, and

certain starring Oliver and Company were kind

of like my and Kevin's favorites. Whereas now,

we've gone through and picked and choosed certain

films from Disney, but what we've done is from

episode 81 to episode 90, they're in theatrical

release year order. So we started with Pinocchio,

we'll end with Lion King. So this was the, and

obviously, you know, between Lady and the Tramp

and 101, that was the next film after Lady and

the Tramp in the order that we're going in, because

obviously we can't cover every single Disney

film. Obviously not. I mean, if we went through,

and of course we're not going to go back and

double -dip, but if we had gone through and listed

and just gone off the Wikipedia list of all 50

Disney animated features, and including their

sequels as well. We could have an entire podcast

of just Disney films, but we didn't just want

to do that, because obviously we want to cover

other stuff here on Tooncast. So the way that

these are going now is in year release order,

but it's films that we pick and choose. It's

not films that, it's not in order. everything

you know what I mean yeah totally yeah so getting

into the characters and the voice actors just

really great casting I mean I don't know I don't

recognize a lot of the names I mean I recognize

Thor Ravenscroft I recognize Jaypad O'Malley

I recognize Betty Lou Gershon or Gerson Ben Wright

But I mean just The voice acting was just amazing.

Even though I don't recognize a lot of these

names just they fit The characters so well, I

definitely agree with you on that. I thought

the voice actor for Pongo was amazing Yeah, Rod

Taylor. Oh, that was he had a great voice for

that character. Yeah. Yeah, and it was a very

good cast And all the characters were just really

well done and it made the film and made the film

watchable Nothing bad to say about that No, I'm

looking for the the Colonel. Where's the Colonel?

J. Pat O'Malley was the Colonel Okay, yeah J.

Pat O'Malley also I as soon as I heard the Colonel's

voice. I'm like, hey, wait a second. It's Colonel

Hathi from Jungle Book No, I mean, J. Pat O'Malley,

I believe, did it, I mean, because it's the exact

same voice, I mean, as what Carl Hattie is in

Jungle Book. And I was like, oh, that's pretty

cool. That's interesting. This is probably the

first Disney film that I actually like a cat

in it. Sergeant Tibbs. Oh, Sergeant Tibbs. He's

so cool. Yes, he is. It's a cool cat. Very, very

cool cat. If that cat existed in real life, I'd

totally want it as my pet. That would be so awesome.

Or my friend. It'd be my friend. Either way,

it would be so, so awesome. Who is your favorite

character from this one? Oh, I love Ponga. He's

so funny. Just in the beginning with his personality,

just the way he is when they're bachelors and

the way he talks about his life and the way he

tells the story through his point of view. He's

just a really great character and I love this

dog. This dog is just incredible and he's very

funny and he's memorable. Oh yeah, he's very

memorable. And also, in terms of another character

that I like, I also like Sergeant Tibbs, which

we just talked about. You know, any time I see

like a Disney plaque or a Disney photo of all

of their animated film characters, Pongo... Usually

is there or if it's not it's pongo and purdy

with maybe some of the puppies in the background

But yeah, I mean pongo is it has become and it

will always be You know a classic Disney character.

I mean purdy as well, but I mean, Pongo's always

around in Disney art when they're talking about

or when they're showing all of the characters

over the years. And like I said before, I can't

believe because it's kind of where the movie

is in Pongo's point of view. And I think they

told this a heck of a lot better than they did

with Lady and the Tramp from Lady's point of

view because it's one of those things where it's

a dog story here. Mean the humans technically

are there there are secondary characters But

the humans and Lady and the Tramp were more secondary

characters than these guys were but but still

Roger and Anita are so second secondary characters

as far as the owners of the dogs and then of

course Cruella Yes. Just had to get into that.

Yeah. There's no way in hell I'm singing on this

podcast. It's okay. There's no such thing as

TFG when Mike's singing. And of course, if you

don't put a space in her last name, it's Cruella

D 'Evil. Devil. Yeah, Devil. Cruella Devil, yeah.

No pun intended there. Oh no, it's fully intended.

Yep. Took me a while to figure that out, but...

Yeah... Now I laugh every time I say Cruella

de Vil. You know, she is obviously the quintessential

villain for this piece. Whereas Horace and Jasper...

Oh man. Those two. I don't see them as villains

though. No, I don't see them as villains either.

The reason why I don't see... Horace and Jasper

as villains is because yes they did steal the

puppies or yes they bought the puppies or you

know the ones that came from Pongo and Prairie

they did steal them and they did break and you

know they did do some light B &E with getting

into the house but They took them and they took

them back to the old DeVille place But they'd

never actually skin them or hit I mean they had

the intention to and they were going to but I

mean they didn't The whole time that Tibbs is

trying to get the puppies out of the mansion

Horace and Jasper are sitting there eating sandwiches

drinking wine, you know watching TV Yeah, I mean,

you know, it's not like Cruella where she would

just immediately attack the dogs or... And swear.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You imbeciles! You idiots!

Yep. That's one more of the things I really remember

about her is her attitude and her language she

used. Oh, this is one woman you don't want to

piss off. Like, ever. Bloody woman drivers? Yeah,

she can't drive either Oh God, and I'm sorry,

and I know I'm kind of jumping ahead to the plot

stuff, but I'm sorry when I was watching this

and She was driving the thing Once when the car

ended up in the in the embankment there. I'm

sorry There's no way in hell that car was gonna

power out of that even though it did That's just

so weird Disney logic. Yeah Disney logic must

apply. Obviously, outside of Cruella, do we have

any least favorite characters in this one? I

don't really have a least favorite character.

Maybe a character that I thought didn't really

serve a purpose is probably Nanny. Well, she

kind of served a purpose because... Like, she

was cute. I thought she was cute, but I mean...

I guess from my point of view, I just... She

didn't really appeal to me that much. That's

fine. I mean, she was just there. Well, yeah,

but she was only just there at certain times.

She was there when the puppies were being born.

She was there when they got stolen, obviously.

And she was there at the, you know, at the point

where, you know, on Christmas and all that. But

I mean, it's not like she was there throughout

the entire thing. And it's a heck of a lot better

than a four legged dog nanny. Oh, that's true.

Are we back to Nana, are we? Aw, poor Nana. I

wouldn't say I dislike Nanny. I guess she wasn't

my favorite. She wasn't someone I'd say that

I particularly liked in this film. But everyone

else I had no issue with. Except for Cruella,

who scared me. Like, shitless, so... Yeah. That

just sums it up for me, in terms of characters.

How about you? Yeah, no, I'm the same. You know,

I... Obviously, Cruella... Cruella isn't a villain,

even though she's scared... I mean, she's a villain,

but she isn't a villain that you outright hate.

She's a villain that you love to hate. Mm -hmm.

She's one of those villains that it's like, oh

my god. I'm sure PETA would love to hate her

too. Yeah, exactly. So getting into some of the

behind -the -scenes stuff. Bill Pete I recognize

for the story and of course Dottie Smith who

is the novelist of the book. Wolfgang Retherman

I recognize from Jungle Book. Other than that,

don't really recognize anybody. The film is a

landmark in animation history for many reasons.

It is the first Disney animated film to be set

in contemporary setting. It is also the first

Disney film created by a single story man, Bill

Pete, which is very interesting. Let's see, the

production of the film also signaled a change

in the graphic style of Disney's animation. Ubel

works in charge of special processes at the studio

had been experimenting with Xerox photography

to aid in animation. By 1959, he had modified

a Xerox camera to transfer drawings by animators

directly to cells. eliminating the inking process

and preserving spontaneity of the penciled elements.

That's kind of interesting, actually. That's

very interesting. Another reason for its look

was the animators were used to producing sketchy

drawings, and the cleanup was done in the process

of transferring the drawings to the cells. With

the hand anchors gone, the animation remained

as the animators drew it. Later, it became common

to do cleanup on paper before the animation was

copied, and with time, the experience and the

process improved, which was very, very cool.

Which is why this film has such a distinct look

to it. Yep. And unlike many Walt Disney animated

features, 101 Dalmatians features only three

songs, thank God, with just one, Cruella De Vil,

playing a big part in the film. The other two

songs are Canine Crunchy's Jingle Song, sung

by Lucille Bliss, who voiced Anastasia in Disney's

1950 film Cinderella. and Dalmatian Plantation

in which only two lines are sung by Roger at

the film's closure. Songwriter Mel Levin had

in fact written several additional songs for

the film including Don't Buy a Parrot from a

Sailor, a cockney chant meant to be sung by the

Badens at the DeVille Mansion. The March of 101,

which was the dogs were meant to sing after escaping

Cruella by Van. I'm so glad that they only had

three songs. Oh, this film wouldn't be what it

was if it had that many songs. Some films, especially

Disney films, they only need a set amount of

songs. They don't need like eight songs. Can

you imagine this film had that many songs though?

Like it wouldn't be like, you know, a movie,

it'd be a Broadway musical. Yes. So as done with

other Disney films, Walt Disney hired an actress

to perform live action scenes as a reference

for the animation process. Actress Helene Stanley,

I hope I pronounced her name right, performed

the live action reference for the character of

Anita. She did the same kind of work for the

characters of Cinderella and Princess Aurora

in Sleeping Beauty. Now according to Christopher

Finch, author of The Art of Walt Disney, he says

this, Disney insisted that all scenes involving

human characters should be shot first in live

action to determine that they would work before

the expensive business of animation was permitted

to start. The animators did not like this way

of working, feeling it detracted from their ability

to create character. The animators understood

the necessity for this approach and in retrospect

acknowledged that Disney had handled things with

considerable subtlety. I guess from an animator's

point of view, I guess I can understand where

they're coming from. Oh, yeah. But on the other

hand, you would think that live action would

help them, in a way, to get the proportions right

and stuff. Yeah. Because back then, they didn't

have technology that we had today. So it wasn't

that easy to do these kind of films. Today, it's

so much easier. Because they can just you know,

they have programs and whatnot So they're able

to do it better now than they were then but I

guess back then this worked in terms of shooting

it shooting an actual film sequence and then

transferring the live -action to paper and I

remember I remember seeing a Actually a section

of the live -action being shot not for this film

But for us looking beauty and that was pretty

interesting to actually see them doing that So

I guess Disney knew what he was doing back then.

Yep. Well, for the most part, Disney knew what

he was doing throughout his entire work, so not

just this film, but other films. Definitely.

For the most part, there are some that I question,

especially the very first Disney animated feature,

but anyway. I guess getting into the actual show,

Kevin's not here to give us a five minute plot

synopsis, but pretty much the basic plot is Pongo

is a Dalmatian who is owned by Roger, and Roger,

they live this bachelor lifestyle, and Pongo

wants to, you know, get... Roger not to be a

bachelor anymore. So we see a scene where Pongo's

looking down at the street and we see a whole

bunch of dogs walk by Wow Those early prospects

were And I like how though I really like how

Pongo looked at the dog first and then looked

at the human Oh, that was hilarious. Yeah, because

obviously Pongo is gonna look at the dog first

since he's a dog and then, you know, check the

human out. So, wow. Those early ones were just...

Like, bad. Yeah, yeah. And of course, he eventually

sees who is Anita and Perdita. and he actually

tricks Roger because he moves the clock ahead

to going out to the park and finding them and

tangles them up and next thing you know they're

in love and they're living in a little house

and you know they're having puppies or they're

going to be having puppies and then enter Cruella.

This again goes to my point of earlier I made

a point off air the podcast because we are you

streaming this this episode as well I made a

point off air of the podcast that I am so totally

against smokers and smoking and tobacco and I

just, I don't like smoke. Whatever. I don't like

black and miles. I don't like regular cigarettes.

I just, I can't breathe around that crap. Yeah,

me neither. And enter Cruella with this flowing

green spewing smoke cigarette. I feel sorry for

them. Yes, yes. And she wants the puppies. Well,

they're not hearing it. Oh, well, let me know

when they get there. And then we get to the point,

you know, three weeks later when the puppies

arrive and they go through the whole process

of seven, 11, 13, 14, 15. Oh, no, just 14. This

one didn't make it. And now I'm wondering, and

maybe you can answer this, Tara. I don't know.

Is it just that the little puppy wasn't warm

enough because I mean, when I watched it back

and Roger was shaking the little bundle and thinking,

you're not supposed to shake babies. That's how

they die. Yeah. But I mean, I'm assuming that

he was just trying to warm the puppy up. I think

he was just trying to warm the puppy up. I think

maybe the puppy, from what I know with dogs and

puppies, I'm going to assume from that the dog

wasn't breathing. There's probably still... something

in its lungs, because when they're born, they

come out of these sacs. And the mother dog will

usually rip open these sacs of their teeth. Sometimes

some dogs will do that, but if they don't do

that, then the human has to do that. So what

could happen is they open the sac with the 15th

puppy and it had something caught in its lungs

still. So it, you know, it stopped breathing.

So I guess when Roger was rubbing it, that probably

loosened whatever was blocking its airway and

it was able to breathe again. So that's what

I got from that. And also from having a friend

who worked in a veterinarian's office. Right,

yeah. So that's what I'm gonna say from that.

I don't think he was trying to, you know, yeah,

you're right, you're not supposed to shake a

dog. Well, you're not supposed to, well, the

way I looked at it was, you know, shaking babies.

Yeah, but I mean I he wasn't really shaking it.

He was just kind of warming it up Well, yeah,

he was holding the the bundle in his hands and

he was like kind of shaking his hands is what

he was doing so but I mean and I'm not saying

that there's you know doggy abuse in Disney film,

but But yeah, and then of course Well, yes, he

felt bad. He didn't want to see the dog die.

Yeah So that's what he was doing. I mean, I look

at it from that point of view that he's a caring

owner and his dog Pongo, his dog Pongo's like

his buddy. And he saw how Pongo looked when they

said only 14. So he knew, he's like, okay, I

gotta try and save this dog's life. I can't let

it die. Because I mean, it's sad. You don't want

to see a baby just born and it's gone. Yeah.

So I mean, it was good. It's a good thing that

dog survived. Yes. So after which, they are visited

by Cruella, a wealthy former schoolmate of Anita's.

She offers to buy the entire litter of puppies

for a large sum. But Roger says they are not

selling any of the puppies. Weeks later, she

hires Jasper and Horace Badden to steal all of

the puppies in Scotland Yard. is unable to prove

she stole them or find the puppies. Pongo and

Perdita used a Twilight bark, normally a canine

gossip line, to ask for help from the other dogs

in England. I really like this. Oh, the Twilight

bark. I really, really enjoyed that. Me too.

Because one of the things I'm going to point

out here is within the Twilight bark you have

Jock and Trusty from Lady and the Tramp. I don't

think it was the same voice actors and they aren't

obviously named the same, but it's the exact

same designs for the Scottish Terrier as Jock

and the old Bloodhound as trusty. The coloring

on the trusty model was a little off obviously

because they had to make it different, but everybody

can tell it's Jock and trusty. Yeah, it was very,

very cool. and it reaches to the Colonel and

old sheepdog along with his compatriots Captain

A Gray Horse and Sergeant Tibbs, a tabby cat.

They find the puppies in a place called Hell

Hall, aka the DeVille Place. along with the other

Dalmatian puppies that Cruella had purchased

from various dog stores. Tibbs learns that the

puppies are going to be made into dog skin fur

coats, and the Colonel quickly sends word back

to London. Upon receiving the message, Pongo

and Perdida immediately leave London to retrieve

their puppies. Meanwhile, Tibbs overhears Cruella

ordering the Batons to kill the... and render

the puppies that night out of fear the police

will soon find them. In response, Tibbs attempts

to rescue the puppies himself while the Badins

are watching television, but they finish their

show and come for them before Tibbs can get the

puppies out of the house. Pongo and Perdita burst

through the window just as the Badins are corning

them and are about to kill them. While the adult

dogs attack the two men, the Colonel and Tibbs

guide the puppies from the house. Not the most

epic scene ever. It was, but I knew that Pongo

and Purdy were coming, but I completely didn't

even remember that they burst through the window

or the wall or whatever it was because I was

like, oh wow. And I think it was Horace that

said, what are these hyenas doing here? Yeah,

that was funny. Well, they do look like they're

snarling. Yep. Very angry. I don't blame them.

I don't blame them either. Give them back their

dogs. Yes. After a happy reunion with their own

puppies, the Pongos realize that there are 84

other puppies with them. Shocked at Cruella's

plans, they decide to adopt all of the puppies,

certain that Roger and Anita would never reject

them. The dogs begin making their way back to

London aided by other animals along the way,

with Cruella and the battens giving chase. In

one town they cover themselves up with soot so

they appear to be Labrador Retrievers, and then

pile inside a moving van going back to London.

As the van is leaving, melting snow clears off

soot and Cruella sees them. In a manical rage,

she follows the van in her car and rams it, but

the bad ends trying to cut off the van from above

end up colliding with her. Both vehicles crash

into a deep ravine. Cruella yells in frustration

as the van drives away. This is one of those

films that, yes, Cruella is the villain, but

I'm glad they didn't kill her off. This isn't

like with Sleeping Beauty with Maleficent or

the Evil Queen in Snow White or anything like

that. Yes, Cruella is a villain. I'm not going

to deny that. She deserves a life sentence in

jail rather than the death penalty. That's true

Well, they didn't kill the stepmother from Cinderella

either. Yeah, she doesn't die. She just that's

true at the end of Cinderella 3, she just becomes

a scullery maid. Yep. That's it. That's her punishment,

and that fits the crime. Yes, very much so. So

to close out the plot here, back in London, Roger

and Anita are attempting to celebrate Christmas

and Roger's first big hit, this song about Cruella.

But they miss their canine friends. Suddenly,

barking is heard outside. And after the nanny

opens the door, the house is filled with dogs.

Labradors! After wiping away more of the soot,

the couple is delighted to realize their companions

have returned home. They decide to use the money

from the song to buy a large house in the country

so they can keep all 101 Dalmatians. Yay! Wow,

that's a lot of dogs! And I like Roger's explanation,

because at the end they're all counting, and

he's doing math, which math is evil and needs

to die, and at the end of it all he's like, 101!

I really like that. What are some of your favorite

parts about this one? As I mentioned previously,

I like the bursting through the window scene,

rescue scene. I also like the beginning scene

where Pongo's looking out the window scoping

out the chicks or female dogs and their human

counterparts. I also really like the chase scene.

the van in the moving van Yeah, that was very

well done. I was really well done and the one

scene that was really memorable for me is Corella's

eyes When she's crazy. Yeah. Oh man, that one

just stuck with me forever Just cuz she really

looks like a devil there Yeah, I Love the entire

movie No, sir. I mean, that's good. That's good.

I mean, I honestly don't know this is a movie

that You know, we'll talk about a little bit

later, but it is based off of a book. But I mean

Disney really, you know Bill Pete and everyone

else that worked on the story Did an amazing

job of telling a story from beginning middle

and end. I didn't really see any You know, any

issues that I would take normally, like with

the Cinderella films, with, you know, Snowing

the Seven Dwarfs and all that stuff, I really

take no issue with this movie at all. And I really

don't dislike any of the scenes either. I will

agree with you, the pungo and purdy bursting

through the window, that was funny. I actually

like The Colonel. and tibs and the captain with

the horse i like the way that they act and i

like a lot of the secondary characters in this

but i also like all of the main characters as

well so we'll kind of alternate on the trivia

we're not going to go through all of these but

there's some really really cool trivia bits Someone

counted all of the black spots in the movie frame

by frame and reached the total of 6 ,469 ,952

spots. Holy crap. That's a lot of spots. Let's

talk about the Hidden Mickey. It's on almost

every single Dalmatian. Oh yeah. If you got a

good eye, you'll spot it. Yeah, yeah, I don't

think I noticed any of them I'm gonna get I wasn't

really looking for them. I Didn't even know they

were hidden Mickey's until actually I just you

know was doing research for this podcast And

I'm like, oh cool. Yeah, it's kind of like um,

oh wasn't one movie that hid stuff I'm trying

to think was it I was trying to think of a movie

that always had like a hidden icon. Well, one

that I can think of, not really hidden, but kind

of like a logo throughout the entire movie. I

know this is completely not a cartoon, but it's

X -Men. There's X's everywhere in X -Men. That's

cool. Yeah. In the USA, this was the highest

grossing movie of 1961. That's very cool. That's

great. Clarence Nash, best known for the voice

of Donald Duck, did the dog barks for this film.

That's very cool as well. Very interesting. And

the birth of the puppies actually happened to

the author Dottie Smith. Her Dalmatians had 15

puppies. One was born lifeless and her husband

revived it. However, they sold most of them and

kept only a small number. Yeah. So inspired by

true events. Yeah, that's very cool. In the Ustream

chat, Ken Curry says, 101, that's a lot of dog

biscuits. Yes, you are right, sir. That is a

lot of dog biscuits. A lot of milk bones. Why

do you think they moved out to a farm? And as

you'll see, if you watch the cartoon series of

this film, they don't really give them dog biscuits.

They have like a trough, and they have Nanny

on a bicycle. And she, as she's bicycling...

Food just comes out pours out of this barrel

to feed all the Dalmatians. Mm -hmm. It's kind

of funny Yes, yes, there's so many of them. You

can't just give them dog biscuits. Yeah, no you

can't But I mean, you know We said it earlier

the three songs that are in the film were enough

for this film It fit the pacing for the film

very well. And everybody, Rick, everybody remembers

the Cruella De Vil song. You may not remember

the lyrics offhand, but you remember the melody.

Because it's so memorable. Yes. Just the melody.

And it's got funny lyrics. If she doesn't scare

you, no evil thing will. Cruella, Cruella De

Vil. And getting into the legacy segments, as

far as the release, 101 Dalmatians was first

released to theaters on January 25th, 1961. After

its initial theatrical run, it was re -released

in theaters four more times, January 1969, June

79, December 85, and July 91. 101 Dalmatians

was released on VHS April 10, 1992 as a part

of the Walt Disney Classics video series. It

was re -released March 9, 1999 as part of the

Walt Disney Masterpiece Collection video series.

On December 19, 1999, it received its first DVD

release as part of Disney's limited -issue series,

and a two -disc Platinum Edition DVD was released

on March 4, 2008. Do you want to take care of

some of the reception there? Sure thing. 101

Dalmatians was the highest grossing film of 1961,

as we mentioned previously, occurring 6 .4 million

in distributors' domestic rentals during its

first year of release and one of the studio's

most popular films of the decade. The film was

reissued to theaters in 1969, 1979, 1985, and

1991. Reissue was the 20th highest earning film

of the year for domestic earnings. It has earned

250 million in worldwide box office earnings

during its lengthy history and currently holds

a 97 fresh rating from critics and users on RottenTomatoes

.com. It has also received a BAFTA award in 1962.

It won the BAFTA Film Award for Best Animated

Film USA. That is very, very cool. Yes. Good

job. 101 Dalmatians. Yes. And we may get to these

eventually in M -Wire, but we're not going to

cover them here, but there's sequels and spin

-offs. In the years since the original release

of the movie, Disney has taken the property in

various directions. The earliest of these endeavors

was the live -action remake, 101 Dalmatians,

starring Glenn Close as Cruella De Vil. None

of the animals talked in this 1996 edition. The

version's success in theaters led to 102 Dalmatians

released on November 22, 2000. Now, I have not

seen 102 Dalmatians, the live -action version

of it. I did see 101, and I do think that Glenn

Close was the best choice for a live -action

Cruella. Oh, definitely. And I'm also very glad

that the puppies did not talk. Yeah, that would

have been kind of odd. it would have been underdog

weird yeah i just don't think i don't think it

would have worked for this no it wouldn't live

action i mean if you were gonna have like a narration

from pong like from the mind of pongo But for

live action, sometimes it just doesn't work,

especially transferring over from Disney animation.

I would much rather prefer the humans talk and

the dogs just bark and react, then it would just

be too weird for me. Like them acting and doing,

you know, like they're not talking but they do

things that kind of make you think they're, you

know, they're human. Yeah, exactly. Which they

did very well. Yes, very much so. After the first

live -action version of the movie, a cartoon

called 101 Dalmatians, the series was launched.

The designs of the characters were stylized further

to allow for economic animation and appeal to

the contemporary trends. Most recently, 101 Dalmatians

2 patches London Adventure. The official sequel

to the original animated film was released straight

to VHS DVD on January 21, 2003. Now, I don't

remember even seeing... the sequel i honestly

don't i didn't i didn't watch it yes so uh yeah

up next you're gonna hear the trailer for 101

Dalmatians 2 Patches London Adventure we'll be

back after this Walt Disney's original classic

101 Dalmatians has touched generations with its

humor and heart and now Oh dear. The story continues.

Place yourself. For the first time on Special

Edition DVD, it's 101 Dalmatians 2 Patches London

Adventure. I think I'm one of a kind. I'm just

101. Patch feels lost in a sea of spots. Make

room! But when he sets out on his own, he discovers

that standing out from the crowd can be a lot

harder than he thought. I'm afraid all I'll ever

be is one of a hundred and one. Now, with the

help of some new friends, You know, you're all

right, kid. he'll find the strength to become

a one -of -a -kind hero. What? One -of -a -kind?

It's remarkable. It's stunning. It's grand. It

makes me smile a lot. with very special bonus

features, including an all -new game and cool

music videos. Absolutely wizard! It's a one -of

-a -kind DVD. Disney's 101 Dalmatians 2 Patches

London Adventure. Patch was fantastic! Coming

soon to Disney DVD for a limited time only. And

I wasn't expecting to cover 101 Dalmatians 2

in this, but since Kevin put it in the script,

we probably should go ahead and do so, so take

it away with the history lesson, Tara. 101 Dalmatians

2 Patches London Adventure is an American direct

-to -video animated film released by Walt Disney

Home Entertainment on January 21st, 2003. The

film is the sequel to the 1961 Disney animated

film 101 Dalmatians. Disney has since re -released

the film on September 16th, 2008. Yes, I do not

remember this movie whatsoever. This I mean normally

I would have gone back and watched I would have

found this on YouTube and watched it kind of

like what I did with Lady and the Tramp 2 Scamps

Adventure But I just didn't have time. And I

honestly don't remember this one at all. I vaguely

remember this coming out, but I was not interested

in seeing it whatsoever. Maybe as we go along,

our opinions might change just by going through

some of the information. Maybe I will after we

wrap this up. Maybe I will go back and do it.

Why not? Yes. Might as well seek it out afterwards.

So getting into the characters and voice actors,

Bobby Lockwood is the voice of Patch, is the

main protagonist. Patch is one of the 101 Dalmatian

puppies. He has a large black spot over one of

his eyes, hence his name. He feels lonely and

left out, oftentimes with his family, thinking

that he is just one of the famous 101 Dalmatians.

Now, I gotta say, Patch and Scamp, they should

have gotten together. Yes. Why not? They should

meet. They should be best friends. One of the

things I do like about this movie is they actually

bring in, from the first film, the puppy's hero.

They bring in Thunderbolt. And Barry Bostwick,

of all people, voices Thunderbolt. Let's see,

Susan Blakeslee is Cruella. Who is Cruella in

the first one? That wasn't Cruella in the first

one, right? Let me back up here and look. No,

Cinderella was voiced by Betty Lou Gerson. Oh,

that's right. Just going off the trailer that

I saw when she's telling the radio to shut up.

She does sound a little bit like the original

voice actress, but obviously it's not. You got

Jason Alexander in this as a little lightning.

Martin Short as Lars. Oh, I can see why I never

saw this movie now. Samuel West as Pongo. Oh,

wow. They changed the voice actor for Pongo.

I'm not sure if I'm gonna like this now. Kath

Susi as Perdita. Oh, yeah. I don't know any of

these voice actors. Well, I mean Kath Susie.

I mean, everybody knows Kath Susie. Martin Short.

I know Martin Short, but I don't... and Jason

Alexander. I don't recognize Samuel West or Kath

Susie. Kath Susie, she's done a lot in animation.

She was the... I mean, she's just... she's done

so much. She's a very well -known voice actress.

Jeff Bennett and Maurice LaMarche played Jasper

and Horace. Let's see, Jodie Benson is Anita.

Which I guess is okay, huh? Very interesting.

I didn't know that Tara strong is two -tone.

Oh Tara Strong's in this. Yeah, I didn't know

that either Tara Strong's in a lot of stuff Very

true very true. All right, so Getting into the

actual show since we have no real behind -the

-scenes stuff The Ratcliffe family and their

101 Dalmatians. Oh wait Was their last name Radcliffe?

Mm -hmm. Originally? Yep. Oh, okay. The Radcliffe

family and their 101 Dalmatians are packing for

the big move to their Dalmatian plantation, a

farm on an island with plenty of room for them

all, located far from the clutches of Cruella

de Villa. One of the puppies, Patch, played by

Bobby Lockwood, feels lost in a sea of spots

and longs to be one of a kind wonder dog like

his TV hero, Thunderbolt. While watching the

Thunderbolt Adventure Hour TV show, Patch hears

about a chance to appear on the show while it

is filming in London. Although the move interferes

with Patch's opportunity, he gets his chance

when he accidentally is left behind in the commotion.

Patch heads for the audition to meet his hero

and win a guest spot on the show, but his squeaky

bark gets him laughed offstage. Meanwhile, Thunderbolt's

sidekick, Lil Lightning, tells him that producers

want to kill off his character and replace him

with a younger dog. In order to save his job,

Thunderbolt decides to venture out into the world

and perform an act of true heroism to prove himself.

He soon meets Patch and the two dogs bond over

their mutual fear of being just another dog.

A veritable reference book to Thunderbolt's many

adventures, Patch provides the perfect guide

for TV star in his attempts to real -life heroics.

Thunderbolt, who has no idea how to act without

a script, makes several attempts at heroism,

telling Patch that he is giving him a junior

deputy test and will let him in on the show if

he can pass. Okay, I'm sorry. This is so starting

to sound like friggin' Bolt. Yep. So coincidence

I think not Because I'm betting that Disney just

recycled this plot for bolt probably. Oh my god

Thunderbolt. Hello No, I know but I mean the

movie bolt is though, you know The whole point

of bolt was he was on TV, but he didn't know

it. Yeah, whereas Thunderbolt knows that he's

on TV and he's trying to save his job But Bolt

a - Wow. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm gonna skip through

some of this plot. At the farm, the Ratcliffs

finally discover Patch's absence and along with

Patch's parents, Pongo and Perdita, they depart

and search for him. At the same time, Corella

bails out her old henchmen, Horace and Jasper.

Out of jail, sends them to the Ratcliffs' new

home, traveling in a stolen dog food truck. The

Badens steal the remaining 98 puppies. Cruella

and the Badens bring the puppies to Lars, who

falls in love with them. He is inspired to paint,

but Cruella declares that he is going to make

a masterpiece out of puppy fur. However, Lars

refuses. Enraged and disappointed, Cruella has

him tied up and goes back to her original plan

of making puppy fur coat. In prison, the puppies

use the Twilight Bar to send an SOS, which was

picked up by Patch and Thunderbolt. As the two

set out to save Patch's family, they run to Lightning,

who is shocked when he discovers Thunderbolt

might actually become a hero, and hurries with

the duo to the warehouse where the pups are being

held. He convinces Thunderbolt not to use Patch's

stealth plan, but to openly attack, doing so

Thunderbolt manages to scare the baddens, but

is knocked out by Cruella, who has Patch imprisoned

as well. Lightning then sneaks in and reveals

that Thunderbolt is a frog before leaving. Oh,

God. I'm sorry. Going through this plot piece

by piece just is making me not even want to see

this thing. Turn off. Yeah, very much so. I mean,

it's it's not it doesn't sound like it's as bad

as under the live action underdog, but it's close.

I can see why some, not all, but I can see why

Kevin doesn't like Disney sequels, and I can

see why some Disney sequels suck, and this is

one of them. Yep. So yeah, as Pongo and Purdy

and the Radcliffs and their nanny arrive on the

scene, lightning is taken away to the dog pound,

the Bannons are arrested, and a mentally broken

down Cruella is taken to a mental institute.

Patch's parents express their pride while Thunderbolt

comments that Patch is a real one -of -a -kind

wonder dog. A newspaper montage reveals the fates

and characters. Lightning is dubbed in the paper

the unkindest cut of all. Lars using a painting

Patch accidentally made by throwing paint at

Horace and Jasper finally receives credit for

his genius. Horace and Jasper open up the ladies'

boutique with the motto Furbad nylon good. Oh

my god. Yeah, God my my brain is melting just

oh my goodness right now No, I can't either and

Roger's new song and seeing spots becomes a smash

hit Cruella is featured in an issue of the Institution

indicating that she has now been driven completely

insane. Oh wait, she wasn't already insane? Yeah,

I know ain't that the truth A post -credit scene

shows Thunderbolt and his TV show patches his

new sidekick while his brothers and sisters are

supporting characters. That's kind of cool. That's

kind of cool. Interesting. I gotta say that just

going through this plot, kind of talking it out

here, there's no way in hell I'm seeking this

out after we finish the record. I'm sorry, there's

no way I would watch this. Yeah. That's cool.

I understand where you're coming from. Now to

think of it, when it first had come out, I think

maybe I like saw like a couple minutes of it

and then I turned it off. I think I was, I think

it bored me. Yeah. I think it wasn't, I see how

it is now when I go watch it but this is, I don't

think this is the true sequel to 101 Dalmatians.

Well, I mean it is in Disney's eyes because obviously

It does it does take some it does expand on some

things from the first film but it's kind of like

it's almost like See, I can't like I Equated

Lady and the Tramp 2 to kind of like Homeward

Bound 2. I can't even equate this to any other

sequel dog film or otherwise but what I would

say is is that You have I would almost equate

this to return to Neverland because technically

Looking at the plot. It's If you cut out all

the continuity bits It's the exact same plot

minus Roger and Anita meeting. Mm -hmm Really?

I mean it's It's the same thing Cruella is going

after the puppies because she wants to make fur

coats out of them That's that's the general consensus

of the plot of both both 101 Dalmatians animated

film. She wants that damn fur coat But yeah,

and I just yeah moving on To the music apparently

there are six songs in this one seeing spots

Dalmatian plantation the Thunderbolt adventure

hour Canine Crunchies, Corellia De Vil, and Try

Again, which is performed by Will Young. Seeing

Spots is new, Thunderbolt Adventure Hour is probably

new, Try Again is obviously new, but the rest

of them, the other three, Domination Plantation,

Canine Crunchies, and Corellia De Vil, those

are all from the first film. And again, because

neither one of us have seen this, we really can't

comment on it. Yeah, sadly. to not watch this

film. And moving into the legacy segment, it

was nominated for several awards and it won several

awards. Let's see here. Any awards, it was nominated

in 2004, Outstanding Achievement in Animated

Home Entertainment Production, Outstanding Production

Design and Animated Feature Production for Bill

Perkins. outstanding storyboarding in an animated

feature production, Dean Roberts outstanding

writing in an animated feature production, Jim

Camerud and Brian Smith it won some DVD exclusive

awards 2003 best animated character performance

in a DVD premiere movie for Martin Short and

Dan Root best animated DVD premiere movie for

Carolyn Bates and Leslie Hoff Best director of

a DVD premiere movie, Jim Camerud and Brian Smith.

Best editing of a DVD premiere movie for Robert

S. Burchard. Best original score in a DVD premiere

movie for Richard Gibbs. Oh wow, Richard Gibbs.

I recognize him from, he did something for Serendipity.

Pretty cool. Not Serendipity, 10 Things I Hate

About You. That's what it was. Love that movie,

too. Uh, yeah. And it was nominated for a...

I don't understand. Why is this movie nominated

for all these awards? I don't know. Good Lord.

It's not even that great of a movie. The award

people liked it. Apparently so. But I mean, it's

not like it has, like, best animated, like, best

overall animated feature. It has like... best

character performances, best song, best screenplay,

best visual effects. I mean, I'm not saying these

awards are ancillary in any way, but, you know,

it's not like where it won best animated feature

of the year or anything like that. Just curious

why I got this many awards. I am too. Yeah, nominations

and winnings sometimes. I'm very, very curious

now. And it is on DVD, I believe. Let me actually

just look it up really quick just to make sure

so I can be accurate. This is a doggone shame.

experiencing some technical difficulties not

really but yeah I'm actually just looking to

see if if this is on DVD do you want to really

say anything else expand more on it at all not

much I can say on this film I mean I wish I could

I wish I had more to contribute in terms of the

sequel but I have to say I preferred the live

-action adaptions over this Yes, 102 Dalmatians.

Oh amazing film. I love it, and that's mostly

to do because Glenn Close is in it Yeah, it is

on DVD Special Edition DVD as far as 2002 so

it hasn't been re -released recently on Platinum

Edition so but it but it is on DVD and also available

on YouTube Yeah, probably go watch it on YouTube

if you don't want to Exactly. Yeah. That's so

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Alright, well, 101 Dalmatians, love it. Awesome

film, amazing animated feature. Best one of my

favorite films growing up. 102 can stay in Disney

Vault. I'm actually gonna pretend that it was

never made. So therefore I'm going to have to

comment on it. Yeah, exactly. And if you're interested,

if you're a Die Hard Disney fan, then by all

means go watch the sequel. But in my opinion,

you're better off watching the live action adaptions

because 102 sequel to 101 live action is a much

better sequel than this atrocity. And that's

all I'm going to say on that. Yeah, I agree.

102 Dalmatians Patches London Adventure just

doesn't sound like a movie that is worth watching,

even if it's on YouTube. It just doesn't seem

like it's... Oh God. I don't know. But going

off of that, 101 Dalmatians, amazing. You know...

The original Disney film, Disney animated film

was just amazing. I love that movie. I can watch

that movie anytime. My favorite dog film from

Disney. Out of doubt. Yeah, I can kind of agree

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