Classic Scooby-Doo Before 1988

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and welcome to the 77th episode of Tooncast brought

to you by the Geekcast Radio Network. I am your

host TfG and Mike and today I'm joined once again

by Kevin Optimus Solo Thompson. Hello. Good day.

Although I was told to shut up so I'm not sure

if I should respond. And returning as a special

guest we have Glade Packer whom we will be putting

and dragging through the eighth circle of hell

by talking about the classic Scooby -Doo cartoons.

That's both a compliment and an insult to Spawn.

Can you take him through the hell thing and can

I stay out of that part? No. Well, you like it.

You like it. He doesn't. That's the point. I

just don't want to go to hell with him. That's

all. Well, I'm already in hell with Scooby -Doo

beating around. Oh, geez. All right. So people

may remember Glade from episode 69 when he and

Jonathan totter in the night. did uh... or talk

about johnny bravo which kevin wanted nothing

to do with which and and i think late for filling

in for you to get it he didn't have a job you

have a job and save me from going to the circle

of hell or whatever it is that we go through

or whatever yeah now we're changing roles are

away uh... uh... uh... uh... yeah so let's just

get ready to the history lesson Alrighty then,

Scooby -Doo is the topic for today and Scooby

-Doo obviously is an animated television series

produced in several different versions from 69

and it's still going, yes. The original series

was entitled Scooby -Doo, Where Are You? and

it was created for Hanna -Barbera Productions

by Joe Ruby and Ken Spears. as a Saturday morning

cartoon series. Hanna -Barbera produced numerous

spinoffs and related works until being absorbed

in 2001 into Warner Bros. Animation, which has

handled production since then. All versions of

the show feature a talking dog named Scooby -Doo,

and the original series included four teenagers

or young adults, whatever you want to call them,

Fred Jones, Daphne Blake, Velma Dinkley, and

Shaggy Rogers, although not all of them appear

in all the different versions that have come

out. These five characters drive around in the

Mystery Machine van. mysteries by exposing...

uh... seeing the other world the ghosts and monsters

or whatever as flush and blue uh... flush and

blood crooks later versions of scooby -doo feature

different variations on the show supernatural

theme and include characters such as scoobies

cousins scooby -dum and nephew scrappy do scooby

-doo rules oh god in addition to or instead of

some of the original characters scooby -doo was

broadcast on cbs from nineteen sixty nine to

seventy six when it moved a bc a bc air to show

until it's canton eighty six and presented a

spin -off a pop names Scooby -Doo which we've

already covered in Tooncast from 1988 until 1991.

The series was revived for the WB network from

2002 to 2006 when it began running on the CW

network until 2008 and the current series is

Scooby -Doo Mystery Incorporated which started

on Cartoon Network just this past summer on July

12th. and that's basically all i want to say

about the uh... history lesson for scooby -doo

so let's start with uh... tfg one mike what do

you remember about whichever version of scooby

-doo you actually remember well i would like

to talk about briefly cuz we're only doing all

of the scooby incarnations pre -1988 but i don't

bring up scooby -doo mystery incorporated which

is the newest one Derrick J. Wyatt, who was the

lead character designer on Transformers Animated,

is doing that show and it is awesome. It is pretty

good. I will give you that much. It is very awesome.

It's easily the best Scooby show of the present

day that has come out in the last five, six years.

And it's full of different homages to past series.

Exactly. As far as the older stuff, I remember

bits and pieces of Where Are You? What I really

remember is, obviously, 13 Ghosts of Scooby -Doo,

and I remember the Scooby -Doo movies, or the

new Scooby -Doo movies, which was, there's several

different, like, animated features. Two of them,

I believe, featured Batman and Robin. There was

one with the Harlem Globetrotters. There was

one with Jonathan Winters. There was one with

Dick Van Dyke. There was one with Don Knotts.

It was just really, really great. This is one

of those cartoons that I remember watching as

a kid along with Everything else transformers

GI Joe he man mask Thundercats, which is easily

the best American a series ever Batman the animated

series. Yeah, Batman. Yeah. Well, I was trying

to make fun of the silverhawks just yeah. Yeah,

but These were running in the 80s, so Batman

the Animated Series hasn't come out yet by that

time. But yeah, just overall, really, I think

I relate more to Scooby and Shaggy than anybody

else. Oh, Jesus Christ. I like those characters.

We're not two characters yet. I know we're not

two characters yet, but I'm just saying, I think

that they are the ones that have the most comedy

in the shows. And obviously later on we'll get

to why that is. They're on drugs. No, they're

not on drugs. So what about you, Glade? Oh, let's

see. Fond memories? Or any memories. All I remember

is watching the one with Batman and Robin from

the 60s. My fond memory has yet to come to pass

because it's still not dead. Dude, did you ever

watch any of these versions though as any age

whatever you age you know as a kid or as a grown

-up? Have you ever watched any of the series?

I'd like to keep my Somewhat low intelligence

at the level. It's at or try to raise it not

lower it more I Saw the live -action movie and

that was enough for me say oh see that was not

fair You can't judge you can't judge scooby -doo

on the live -action. Yeah, you can at all As

far as the old cartoons go. I'm sorry, I was

going to get to that. It's all the same. They're

like, oh, this is a real monster. They don't

ever say it's a guy in a mask. They have pointless

chases. Maybe that's supposed to be an homage

to Benny Hill, but in every single episode, it

gets rather tedious. And I know it's for kids,

but it's tedious. I agree that they they recycle

the same thing over and over again But you got

to admit because a lot of different series have

tried the same formula and scooby -doo is the

best at doing the formula They did I know over

you know 20 30 40 years and hundreds of episodes

that it may seem old because they basically do

the same thing over and over again But so many

other people have tried to do the same thing

and failed I think there's a reason why. But

Scooby Doo somehow pulls it off. Exactly. And

it's still popular with at least some niche of

the population. I'll tell you one thing. Scooby

Doo is so popular that the Scooby Doo running

gag that you don't like, Glade, I can easily

find that in almost anything nowadays. Hell,

I found it in an episode of Beast Machines. Where

was that? You just used to ruin that for me now

Don't ruin more shows for him. Where do you see

these machines? Yeah, really there is a scene

where in one of the early episodes of season

one Where black arachnia and rat trap are sneaking

around the spaceport to get to the ship to find

out what happened to them and They're sneaking

around tank or and they go like they dart down

one way tanker will dart down the other way and

it Trust me. It's a scooby -doo reference That's

different They don't end up chasing tank or then

tank or ends up chasing them though. That's what

I know But it's still it's still the same thing

though It's still the scooby -doo hole premise

of the whole chase in and out and makes it around

and stuff and really I think the chases were

done not necessarily for anything to do with

the story the chases were done to give them a

chance to play certain music and kind of yeah

keep keep you know progress the plot and kind

of take up time and make it like more You know

exciting or interesting not so slow paced and

some of the chases with them music, as well as,

you know, them running around. It's a sight gag,

really, because, you know, you like, because

you don't expect the monster to start chasing

that or them to start chasing the monster, really.

Right. So it's a whole sight gag thing. Yeah.

Well, I'm sure the go ahead. No, no, no, go ahead.

Go ahead. I'm sorry. Well after the first okay,

I'm sure when it first started it was hilarious

I mean if I saw it only once if is a rarity I

would laugh but like you said earlier Going over

40 100 episodes not too funny anymore. Yeah.

Well, I was just gonna say, you know as far as

you know Comparing it you gotta you gotta kind

of look at it when it came out and when it comes

out and you know 1969 and comparing it to what

else is out there it was not necessarily progressive,

but it was unlike most stuff that was out there

at the time. At the time, it had to seem more

exciting, more action, more music, more mystery.

It was not something that kids were exposed to

at that point. And I think you can kind of let

that last for the first decade or almost two

decades that it's out, all the 70s at least.

And then after that, it's since been living off

of that legacy. If it had just come out in the

80s, if there was no Scooby Doo in the 60s or

70s and it came out in the 80s, I don't think

we would have this same type of cult following

that we do today. But I think because it hit

home in the 60s and 70s when kids were not exposed

to something like it, it's still living off of

that, in my opinion. All right. Yeah, I can see

where you're coming from. I'm not a total hater

just You can hate I've hated many I've hated

many shows that we've covered so that's okay

As for general memories, I don't ever recall,

you know as a kid watching these different scooby

-doo episodes to me I was watching a scooby -doo

episode. I was unaware of The fact that different

scooby -doo series existed. I had no idea that

I was watching like let's say a what's new scooby

-doo or where are you scooby -doo or a scooby

-doo and the 13 ghosts like as a kid i didn't

know that those were different things as a kid

i was watching a cartoon that has scooby -doo

in it and i just remember more the characters

and the basic plot because it kind of stayed

true no matter what series you're talking about

um this is one of my brother's favorite cartoons

and like i've said a couple times on other shows

he was about 10 years older than me so he was

someone who actually was born in 1970 so this

is what Was on when he was a small child and

he kind of just transferred that to me. So that's

where my memories come from It wasn't something

that I remember like running home to watch from

school It wasn't something that I knew what time

what day it was on and I kind of put it in my

schedule like I did with you know, like Transformers

or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or whatever,

you know show GI Joe that I was watching at the

time But it was something that I would catch

occasionally when there was nothing else on or

in between other things and you know I didn't

dislike it. I liked it to a point, and we'll

talk about some of the reasons why I liked it

as we went through, but to me it was good for

a cartoon filler in between episodes of something

that I was more excited to watch, like Transformers

or whatever else was on. Yeah, Scooby was one

of those cartoons, like I've said before on this

show, on several of the cartoons. He, it was

one of those things where, oh, this is on. Oh,

this is - It's like Looney Tunes, it was always

on. Yeah, yeah. And you would, and you didn't

mind watching it while you waited for whatever

other show was coming. Exactly, yep. Or if you

were comparing it to something that was worse

out there, you know, you would watch it, obviously.

Yeah. Like, oh, I won't talk about all the stuff

you liked, nevermind. Now, wait a second here.

You cannot compare, obviously, Stoopi, Stoopi.

Stoopi. Scooby Doo. Scooby Doo stans. ahead of

a lot of this, a lot of the other stuff, but

you cannot compare it to other stuff that we've

talked about on this show because it came before

it. Alright, I agree. Yeah, so getting into the

characters and voice actors, and we're basically

just gonna go through each character, list their

different voice actors that they've had over

the years, and we'll talk about the character

individually. First up is the Great Dane himself,

Scooby -Doo. Don Messick did his voice from 1969

to 1997. Hadley Kay did his voice in 97, Scott

Eanes did it 98 -2001 for the direct -to -video

DVD films, and the 2001 -2006 video games. Neil

Fanning was the theatrical live -action films

voice for Scooby, and from 2002 to now the incomparable

Frank Welker has done Scooby for the shows, games,

direct -to -DVD films, and live -action telefilms.

Who's Frank Welker? To be fair, I mean, obviously

Scooby doesn't talk a lot. Well, Scooby has no

language. I mean, Scooby is like, you know, us

as kids with our friends creating like weird

alien languages or something. Right. But I guess

my point is that all of those guys could have

done basically the same sounding voice without

too much, too much studying or too much work.

It wasn't like it was a hard voice to duplicate.

Oh, no. But it is, it does have its unique kind

of language and its unique voice and everybody

kind of knows what Scooby Doo sounds like and

to me he is the, obviously since it's Scooby

Doo cartoons, he is the main and best character

in all of these things. Yep. Scooby rules. But

there's not really a voice comparison so to say

with the Scooby Doo voice actors. Well, you guys

do have a voice compare up at BBTA. Really? You

lazy bastard. But, yeah, you can. You can put

up because they're not... I can tell the difference

between Scott Ines and Don Messick. That's a

Phineas and verb reference for those who might

have missed it. Yeah, you missed it. You always

miss references. Next up is Norville Shaggy Rogers.

Casey Kasem was the greatest radio voice of all

time. But not the greatest voice actor of all

time. I said greatest radio voice of all time.

Open your ears. I know I was adding a subtitle.

Yeah. He voiced Shaggy from 1969 to 97 and then

again from 2002 to 2009 where he retired. Billy

West took over in 98, Scott Ines was the voice

for 99 to 2001 for the direct to DVD films and

the 2001 to 2009 video games. Scott Menville

was the voice for Shaggy and Scooby -Doo get

a clue, oh god. That's gonna be a horrible episode

in 65 years in the future. That's when it gets

bad. I hope that's not an episode in 65 years

in the future. Yes, it is actually. Mr. Ink should

be. Well, yeah, Mr. Ink will be, but anyway.

And then of course you have Matthew Lillard who

was the live actor in the theatrical live -action

films. Well, hold on. Hold on, shut up. And then

he is also the voice actor from 2010 obviously

to now, to the present now. I gotta say, the

only good thing about Scooby -Doo the movie,

the first live -action movie, was that they got

him to voice Shaggy. I thought that was a really

nice kind of homage type of thing from Casey

Kasem to him because he nailed it, I thought.

Maybe the voice, but he looked like a freaking

retard. Doesn't he always? Yes. Not the actor,

but I mean... The character, yeah. Both. Leave

Matthew Willard alone, damn it. I hate Matthew

Willard. Why? I don't know, he just bugs me.

Why? He just bugs me. I don't like him. Why?

He annoys me. And then you had Nick Palatatus

as the live actor in the live -action telefilms.

Now this one's pretty obvious. I mean, Casey

Kasem is Shaggy. That is the voice of Shaggy.

That's, you know, no one can really compete with

Casey Kasem. No. I'm not a huge Casey Kasem fan,

but he is Shaggy. Yep. That's all I have to say

about that. Why on God's green earth is this

show still on? Because it's popular. Why is this

show still on? Have you seen any episodes of

Mystery Ink, Glade? No, I didn't mean that show.

I meant Scooby. Oh, okay. I haven't seen Mr.

Ink. Mystery Ink. Mystery incorporated. Oh my

bad. No It's it's the new show on Cartoon Network.

You should probably check it out because it is

pretty good What I don't think he's gonna do

that I Might but if this is if it's like scooby

-doo in any way I'm probably gonna be like why

did I just well it is scooby -doo mystery incorporated.

That's the title of the show, dude not me like

if it's Wait, is it just a real? Is it a rehash

of Scooby -Doo all over again? It's a new updated

version of it. With the same characters and the

same plot lines basically. But better animation.

So the only difference is new animation. Just

give it a try. It's not gonna kill ya. Here,

have cocaine. This won't kill you, yet. Okay,

wait a minute here. You cannot compare cocaine

to a Scooby -Doo cartoon. Oh, you can't? You

can, though, compare cocaine to a Ren and Stippy

cartoon. Exactly. Those bastards. Okay. Oh, I'm

sorry, marijuana. That's - Okay, that's better.

I'm sorry. So moving on, we have Fred Jones,

who, again, the incomparable Frank Welker, voices

him - Throughout time 1969 to now Only voice

the only animated voice of the adult Fred Jones,

right? And then you had Carl Stevens played the

kid Freddy in a pup named Scooby -Doo, which

I think He did a pretty good job. Leave a pup

named Scooby -Doo alone blade. That was a good

show But not as good as Mike claims it is that

was a funny show. This is shut up. Not as good

as mother babies. Well Again, you really can't

compare the two You tried to in this episode.

You did not. One's intelligent, one isn't. Oh.

And then Chris Cox voiced him in the Scooby -Doo

2 Monsters Unleashed video game. Freddie Prinze

Jr. was the live -action actor, and then Robbie

Amel was the live -action actor in the telefilms.

This one's like Shaggy. I mean, Casey Kasem is

Shaggy. Frank Welker is Fred Jones. End of discussion.

Yep. And then you had Daphne Blake. Yeah, Kevin's

going down that list Daphne Blake actually has

been voiced by a ton of people because it started

in the very first season with a lady named Indira

Stefaniniana Christopherson She was she was almost

immediately replaced with Heather North Kenny

who voiced her for a couple almost three decades

Kelly Martin was the kid voice in a pub named

Scooby Doo. Then we had the late Mary Kay Bergman

from 98 to 2000 and since then it's been Gray

Delisle. Obviously Sarah Michelle Geller was

the live actor that played her in the films and

you've had a couple other people do her in video

games and whatnot but it's basically been Heather

North Kenny as the early animated voice and then

Gray Delisle basically the current voice. And

my favorite Daphne voice is definitely Heather

North Kenny. Oh yeah. Gray Delisle does a good

job but Heather North Kenny to me is the best

Daphne voice. Yes. And then you have Velma Dinkley.

That's a weird last name. Fun to say. Nicole

Jaffe voiced her from 69 to 73 and then in 2003.

Pat Stevens took over from 76 to 79. Marla Frumkin?

Wow, that's a horrible name to be. saddled with.

79 to 80 in 84, Christina Lang, a putt named

Scooby Doo in 88 to 91, BJ Ward from 97 to 2001,

Mindy Cohn from 2002 to now, and then Linda Cardellini

was the live -action theatrical actress and Hailey

Kiyoko was the live actress in the Telefilms

Velma has had a lot of different voices and a

lot of good voices Obviously BJ Ward was one

of the best voice actors in the in you know for

the entire 80s and 90s But Mindy Cohn did an

excellent job of Velma now, but my favorite is

a toss -up between Nicole Jaffe and If that's

how you say it and Pat Stevens I will give a

quick plug though anybody that wants to compare

all the different voices for Velma Shaggy Freddy

or Daphne, we have all of them lined up at BTBA.

You can go there and you can listen to clips

from each one and decide for yourself and vote

for. Now go put Scooby up there, you asshole.

Which one's your favorite? We have all the four

main teenagers slash adults out there, so you

can vote for your favorites. We'll get Scooby

up there eventually. I agree, I like Nicole Jaffe

and Pat Stevens, but I also like Christina Lang.

And I like everything to do with a pup named

Scooby -Doo. That was just a fun show. It was

a fun show! Shut up! I think you should marry

a pup named Scooby -Doo. Sorry. I was trying

to act like a fourth grader. Exactly. You love

it, why don't you marry it? Now we have one of

the most controversially hated characters. Which

I absolutely love Scrappy Doo. And two reasons

why Scrappy is awesome. Lenny Weinrib and Don

Messick. Lenny Weinrib voiced him from 79 to

80 and then Don Messick voiced him from 80 to

86. His voice is fine, but the character was

completely unneeded. Whatever. No, the character

that was unneeded was Scooby Dumb. Well that

was also unneeded. Any Scooby or Scrappy anything.

Scooby Doo needed to be the only damn dog in

the show. Sorry. Uh, but Glade was gonna give

us two reasons why you should hate him. Yes.

Two counter -reasons to your two liking reasons.

One, he is unnecessary. And two, his lines are

completely ridiculous. His voice actor's good,

but his lines suck. His lines are funny as hell.

What the hell is wrong with you people? I think

you grew up on... You were doing marijuana when

you watched these shows. Are you kidding me?

Just kidding. I will agree with glade 100 % on

this I hate scrappy do no scrappy rules and then

marijuana does too until you die and become mean

and angry Scott Einz did him in the 2002 live

-action film harry bird man attorney -at -law

episode shaggy busted because he was yes exactly

they were caught doing crap what did you say

to that So for Popeye, we had kidnapping molesters,

and for Scooby -Doo, we have a bunch of drug

addicts. We're making friends all over the place.

And then Vincent Van Goole, who is only in The

13 Ghosts of Scooby -Doo, is voiced by Vincent

Price, obviously. And he is also reprised voiced

by Maurice Lamar. She was an excellent... So

even though Mr. Price is no longer with us, he

passed away a while ago, I believe, Maurice LaMarche

does voice Vincent in Scooby -Doo Mystery Incorporated.

And like we kind of mentioned before, that's

because Scooby -Doo Mystery Incorporated, we're

not really talking about that, but they brought

a lot of characters back, like Vincent Angoul

and other things that hit previous incarnations.

Just running down some of the other characters

real quick, like Mike mentioned Scooby -Dum.

That was the legendary Dawes Butler. Flim Flam,

Susan Blue from Transformers fame. Howard Morris

from Garfield and Friends did Bogle. I hate Bogle

and Weird. And Weird was Artie Johnson. Scott

Menville from A Pup Named Scooby -Doo is Red

Herring. And then you had a ton of people including,

I should mention Thorn, Luna, and Dusk because

they've appeared in a bunch of different stuff.

Jennifer Hill, Kimberly Brooks, and Jan Weedland

from What band was she in? The Hex Girls. No,

but in a real life. Jan Weedland's a real life

singer. From, not the Goo Goo Dolls, I don't

think, but it's something like that. No, it's

not the Goo Goo Dolls. I didn't mean Goo Goo

Dolls. I meant the Go Go's. Oh, the Go Go's,

okay. She's from one of those 80s girl bands.

Alright, so favorite character? My favorite character

is pretty freaking easy. It's cheating because

it's scooby -doo if I had to say my favorite

human character. I would say that it is Freddy

Just because I liked Freddy he was kind of the

leader type guy he wasn't necessarily cocky or

anything, but he was the guy that kind of took

charge and He was not as smart as Velma and everything,

but I don't know I liked I liked Freddy so not

as much as I like scooby -doo, but those are

my two favorites What about you blade? Oh dear

god. If you had to pick a favorite, who would

it be? Well, I'll just say it like this. I can

relate to Scooby -Doo's hunger, but I don't really

have a favorite character. But I have to say,

if I gave past my hatred of Scooby -Doo, I would

have to say it's probably Velma because it shows

that women are intelligent. It's not degrading

or anything like that. It is one of the rare

early female characters that is not shown to

be a complete moron or completely reliant on

the men in whatever she's in. Yeah, so for women's

rights, I give Scooby -Doo that credit. So, Glade

is scoring points with the women listeners. What

about you, Mike? What's your favorite character?

Shaggy, Scooby, and Scrappy. Oh my god. Oh dear,

yeah. All right, Glade, what's your least favorite

character? Pick one. Or two. Just one? Or two.

That's obvious. Okay, let's see. No more than

three. Shaggy, Scooby. Okay, no, hold on, hold

on. Shaggy I can get. And Scrappy I can understand

that people don't like him. But why don't you

like Scooby Doo? What the hell is the point of

Scooby? Why do we have a talking dog? Is he a

ghost inhabiting the body of a dog and that's

why they try to bust ghosts? I Just don't understand

his purpose. I can throw it on pack when you

really need it His purpose is comedy his purpose

his and Shaggy's purpose only is comedy Well,

why do you have shag? Why do you have to comedic

relief then you only need one? Really? I think

yeah, that's I don't know. That's why my favorite

character is easily easily Shaggy I freaking

hate Shaggy. If they would've just had, if it

was Fred, Velma and Daphne trying to solve stuff

and Scooby was their little pet comedic relief

thing, good. Shaggy drives me nuts. First of

all, I don't like his look, his appearance. He's

always scruffy and I don't know, and he's lazy.

He just eats everything. There's nothing to like

about Shaggy. Agreed So, okay. Let me put this

way It's a tie between shaggy and scooby because

really one of those two is pointless and you

can't have scooby -doo the show without scooby

-doo Yeah, so I don't I would say scrap. He's

my least favorite but to me he's a pointless

character So I don't even want to consider him.

So shaggy is my least favorite Mike, which one's

your least favorite? I'd have to say Probably

scooby -dum and like all the other dogs no main

character which one which one of the main character

Freddy he's incompetent he needs his plans always

fail get the leader Stephanie They do they do

a better job with Leonardo leading them than

they would Freddy Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Did you just make a jump from Scooby -Doo to

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Yes, I did. I can

do that. It's my show, damn it. What the hell?

It's called marijuana. Freddy gets Daphne, or

Freddy gets Daphne. How can you hate Freddy on

that? He gets the girl. Well, Velma gets Daphne

too at a couple points, so... What? Wait, what?

What? I'm sorry, did you make a lesbian reference?

Of course. Did you make a Teenage Mutant Ninja

Turtles reference followed by a lesbian reference

in a show that has already had cocaine references?

Hey, I didn't bring up the cocaine stuff, you

guys did. When did Daphne get Velma? I don't

know, look down in the notes there, it's down

there. In the recent episodes, Velma and Shaggy

are basically an item, which is disturbing. But

at least Freddy and Daphne, you kind of pull

for them. It's like Zack and Kelly, you kind

of want them to be together, in my opinion. Okay,

moving into the behind -the -scenes segment Wow,

we've had a whole hell of a reference and we're

only we're only 30 minutes into the show You

really hate Freddie He's a moron. Okay, you like

Shaggy and you hate Freddie, right? Okay. I just

want to make that clear for our listeners Okay,

so getting behind -the -scenes segments obviously

the show has had several directors over the years

most notably obviously Joseph Barbera and William

Hannah Let's see Carl Urbano Charles A. Nichols

for the writers Joe Ruby Ken Spears Tom Ruger

obviously Very very cool and just a bunch of

bugs Buzz Dixon's on the list. Okay. You gotta

mention Mark Avenue. Yeah, Mark Avenue as well.

Yeah and Doug Booth. Yep. I'm sorry. So, Kevin,

take us through the creation process here. You

really want me to do that? I wanna. And as well.

Basically, in 1967, parent -run organizations,

most notably Action for Children's Television,

which there must be none of these that exist

anymore, began vocally protesting what they perceived

as an excessive amount of gratuitous violence

in Saturday morning cartoons because of all of

the Action comic book hero cartoons that were

coming out at the time. Most of these shows were

Hanna -Barbera action cartoons such as Johnny

Quest, Space Ghost, The Herkuloids, and most

of them were cancelled by 1969. Basically the

70s, this is a side note by me, the 70s was a

dead time for cartoons. The critics came out

and killed cartoons for the entire decade of

the 70s. So basically most of the studios had

to try to come up with programs that were safe

for children. Fred Silverman, who was the famous

CBS children's program and exec at the time,

was looking for a show that would revitalize

the Saturday morning lineup and also please all

of these stupid watch groups. The result was

stuff like The Archie Show, which was basically

based on little different music numbers. And

then based on that response, he went on to trying

to have another teenage group that would solve

mysteries, which... you know, to make a long

story short leads us to Scooby -Doo. So Hannah

Barbera passed this task of coming up with this

to Joe Ruby and Ken Spears. The original concept

of the show bore the title Mysteries Five and

featured five teens, Jeff, Mike, Kelly, Linda,

and Linda's brother, WW, and their dog, Too Much

was the name of the dog, which were all members

of the band Mysteries Five. So at the beginning

there was going to be this musical kind of reference

and the dog played the bongos. When the mysteries

five were not performing at gigs, they were out

solving spooky mysteries involving ghosts, zombies,

and other supernatural creatures, so that part

they kept. Ruby and Spears were unable to decide

whether too much would be a large, cowardly dog

or a small, feisty dog. And when the former was

chosen, the options became a large, goofy German

Shepherd or a big, shaggy sheepdog. After consulting

with Barbera on the issue, too much was finally

said as a Great Dane to avoid a direct correlation

with the dog that was on the Archies. Ruby and

Spears feared the Great Dane would be too similar

to the comic strip character Marmaduke, but Barbera

assured them it would not be a problem. Kind

of skipping along a little bit, by the time the

show was ready for presentation, a few more things

had changed. Jeff and Mike were merged into one

character called Jeff, later renamed Fred. uh...

kelly was renamed after the window was not called

velma and shaggy which was the ww character was

no longer her brother also silverman not being

very fond of the name mysteries five had renamed

the show scared with three s is so who's scared

uh... using storyboard presentations and a short

complete animation sequence over and presented

who's scared to the cbs executives as the centerpiece

for the upcoming sixty nine to seventy season

saturday morning cartoon block The execs felt

that the presentation artwork was too spooky

for young viewers and thinking that the show

would be the same decided to pass on it, which

was a mistake by them. Without a centerpiece,

Silverman turned to Ruby and Spears who reworked

the show to make it more comedic and less frightening.

They dropped the rock band element, thank God,

and began to focus more attention on Shaggy and

Too Much. According to Ruby and Spears, Silverman

was inspired by a combination of scooby -doo

section in Sly and the Family Stone's Everyday

People and Frank Sinatra's scat dooby -dooby

-doo. He heard at the end of Strangers in the

Night, so on the way out to one of their meetings,

they decided to rename the dog Scooby -Doo, so

that's where the name comes from, and rechristen

the show Scooby -Doo, Where Are You? The revised

show was presented to CBS execs, who approved

it for production. For no apparent reason, it

was decided that all episodes would take place

at night. So that's the history of the production

and the becoming of Scooby -Doo. Any comments?

I'm glad they changed it. I'm glad they didn't

go the same rock band, whatever. No, I'm glad

they changed the names of the characters, because

holy crap. No, I'm glad that too, but I'm glad

that they're not a rock band like we see in Jabberjaw,

like we see in the Archies, like we see in whatever,

Josie and the Pussycat. Every 70's show tried

to do the same dang Synopsis, I mean, I don't

know if the people that were writing cartoon

shows were just completely out of ideas that

point and had to copy everything But 70s cartoons

suck because everybody tried to do the same dang

thing I mean you can count a dozen shows that

have four or five teenagers with an animal of

or something that are either a mystery -solving

group or a rock band and Scooby -doo did it better

than any of the other ones, but I wish all the

other ones didn't really exist It was called

too much instead of scooby -doo It would not

be around today. I didn't Glade would be happy

Yes, there would be a God smile late on us Glade

do you agree that it would not be good if they

were a rock band and all that it might have been

better if they were more spooky like they were

originally and more Mystery type and less a little

less comedic. I think they still needed some

comedic parts, but I think they went too far

to the extreme at some points. I will agree with

that How much does Shaggy eat per episode? Yeah

It was this is why children are obese. No, I'm

just kidding I didn't help I can't believe that.

Oh, yeah, no offense to those people out there,

but I can't believe that Sinatra actually inspired

the name. That's actually really cool Yeah, I

do agree with that it's kind of cool how they

came up with scooby -doo because you got to kind

of be thinking Where did they come up with this

weird name like scooby -doo? That's what I was

wondering and I never knew that before today.

So that's kind of cool So there are reasons to

like the scooby -doo franchise. Thank you very

much I'm saying that there's at least one reason

why you should and probably a thousand why you

shouldn't Every I will give it credit they they

do have different character. I mean you have

the nerdy You know girl like smartypants character

you have the you know like the little like homecoming

Queen type You know popular girl character you

have the jock type character you have the nerd

boy type character you have scooby -doo is just

I mean you have a little bit of everything so

you can kind of get little bits from different

characters that you can relate to. Obviously,

we're all geeks, so we can somewhat relate to

Velma. We can probably relate to one or two of

the other characters from different parts. So

they did a good job of reaching out to try to

touch or try to relate to every type of different

kid that's out there. I will give them that much

credit. OK, two reasons. And I think that's why

it's popular is because even kids today can relate

to at least one, if not more, of the parts of

the characters. Exactly. So moving into the actual

show here, we have several different synopses

because obviously there's several different series.

For the CBS years, Scooby -Doo Where Are You

made its CBS network debut Saturday, September

13th, 1969 with its first episode, What a Night

for a Night. The original voice cast featured

veteran voice actor Don Messick as Scooby -Doo,

Top 40 radio DJ Casey Kasem as Shaggy, Actor

Frank Welker as Fred, actress Nicole Jaffe as

Velma, and musician whatever the hell her name

is as Daphne. Scooby's speech patterns closely

resembled an earlier cartoon dog Astro from The

Jetsons. Also voiced by Mazik. Exactly. I always

wish that Scooby and Astro would have met up

at some point. They did. No, I mean like now.

Oh. I was going to say there has been cartoons

where they've both been in it. Yeah. 17 episodes

of that first version. Yep And I think you know

just getting into the the new scooby -doo movies

That was in 72 after 25 half -hour episodes the

program was doubled to a full hour and that was

called the new scooby -doo movies So that's basically

the second version of this each episode Featured

a different guest star and that's when you get

all the people like Harlem Globetrotters the

three stooges Don Nott's Batman and Robin Etc.

Etc. Etc. The the new scooby -doo movies has

the most famous celebrity guest stars Yeah, and

each of those people appeared at least twice

on the show And they had a new theme song after

two seasons and 24 episodes the new movies format

the show was basically in a reruns in the original

series until scooby moved to abc so the first

two on cbs are basically the original one in

new scooby movies and then it goes to abc right

and i gotta say the new scooby's theme the new

scooby movies theme is the one that i remember

the most yeah i mean i remember scooby -doo where

are you but the new scooby movies theme was one

of my all -time favorites from scooby so yeah

next to a pop named scooby doo oh god it was

way better than that one and then it goes to

the uh... the abc years for the latter part of

the seventies uh... first met seventy six seventy

seven season new episodes we do we're joined

with dynamite dog wonder so it was the scooby

doo dynamite hour and this hour long package

so later evolved into the longer program blocks

who is also a lap olympics lap olympics were

awesome and so this is just called scooby's all

-stars New Scooby episodes in the original Scooby

-Doo Where Are You format were produced for each

of these three seasons. Nicole Jaffe had retired,

so that's when Pat Stevens took over. And this

is also where we have Scooby Dumb come in, as

well as a couple other things. So that was the

first, basically the first couple years of the

ABC. Yes, and then from 79 to 84 we had... The

Scooby Doo characters first appeared outside

of their regular Saturday morning format in Scooby

Goes Hollywood. An hour -long ABC television

special aired in prime time on December 13th,

1970. Well, they love airing this show on the

13th day, don't they? Yeah. It's a sign from

the devil. I told you we were going through this

in whatever circle of hell. The special revolve

around Shaggy and Scooby's attempts to have the

network move Scooby out of Saturday mornings

and into primetime series and feature the spoofs

of then -current TV shows and films such as Happy

Days, Superman, Laverne and Shirley and Charlie's

Angels. In 79, Scooby's tiny nephew Scrappy -Doo

was added to both the series and billing in an

attempt to boost Scooby -Doo's slipping ratings.

The 7980 episodes aired under the title Scooby

-Doo and Scrappy -Doo. Succeeded in regenerating

interest in the show, Pat Stevens voiced Velma

in the first 11 episodes, but Marla Frumkin took

over the role for four episodes. And then unfortunately,

in 1980, the show was overhauled to focus more

on Scrappy -Doo. And this is weird though, this

is weird because in 1980 Fred Daphne, a lot of

people aren't aware of this, but Fred Daphne

and Velma were completely dropped from the series.

It was Shaggy, Scooby, and Scrappy. So if you

want to go watch a Scooby -Doo episode, stay

away from the 1980 version. See, I like the 1980

version. I love the old version with everybody,

but I like the 1980. No, they took three of the

best characters, Fred, Daphne, and Velma, off

the show and gave you Scrappy and Shaggy more.

That's bad. Okay, so getting into the 13 Ghosts

of Scooby -Doo, 1985 saw the debut of the 13

Ghosts of Scooby -Doo, which featured Daphne,

Shaggy, Scooby, Scrappy, and new characters,

Flim Flam, and Vincent van Gool, based upon a

foot... Based upon and voiced by Vincent Price.

Who are you booing at? Flim Flam? I'm booing

Flim Flam. I don't mind Vincent Van Gool. I like

that they bring Daphne back here. I like Vincent

Van Gool, but Flim Flam could have gone in the

same place Scrappy did, in the Scrappy. Flim

Flam was cool. Shut up. Flim Flam was cool. The

only reason why Flim Flam is cool is because

Susan Blue voices him. Yeah, but Flim Flam is

a pointless attempt to try to be more diverse.

While traveling the globe to capture the 13 of

the most terrifying ghosts upon the face of the

earth, the final first run -up of sort of the

13 Ghosts of Scooby -Doo aired in March 1986

and no new Scooby series aired on the network

for the next two years. Re -runs of previous

Scooby episodes, however, continue to air, both

as part of the Scooby -Doo Mystery Funhouse Package

and under the new Scooby and Scrappy -Doo Show

banners. It never dies. There's a number, kind

of just going into some of the themes that people

have picked up over the years or a little bit

of trivia here. There's a number of rumors about

hidden jokes or subliminal messages that surround

the series. It's kind of like Disney in that

way. First of all about Fred and Daphne going

off and having sex when the gang splits up to

look for clues. Okay, now since you brought up

the sex part, here's another one. Velma is a

lesbian. She has a crush on Daphne. Just because

Velma's boyfriend is not a member of the gang

like Daphne's is doesn't make her a lesbian.

Neither does her being paired with Daphne when

Freddy goes off on his own to find clues. But

if you watch the original shows, you'll oftentimes

see that we hardly ever see Daphne and Fred actually

looking for clues. You always see Velma, Shaggy,

or Scooby looking for clues, and Fred and Daphne

are mysteriously not in the picture. Although

it said that the reason is is because We never

see Freddy or Daphne when the gang splits up

is because creators Ruby and Spears found Writing

for Fred and Daphne which kind of their straight

characters because they have kind of a straight

stereotype So they found the writing for them

boring So they would find an excuse to split

the gang up so they could get those two out of

the picture and focus on Writing for Shaggy Scooby

and Velma which gives you a little bit more comedic

kind of flexibility and then Velma was also written

out so that they could just focus on Shaggy and

Scooby to get more comedy in Yeah and even in

the original shows the writers often imply that

Velma and Shaggy kind of have something going

on together. They're often paired together at

dances if there's dances in the series and whatnot.

Another little rumor or you know speculation

about Scooby -Doo is that Shaggy is a pothead.

Gee, I wonder why. That is why he has even the

pothead term here, the munchies all the times,

and why he sees the ghosts or hallucinations

before many of the others. And that Scooby snacks

are drugs. Who just thunk it? The first one may

only be a rumor, but... Yeah, I don't think so.

But Shaggy is a beatnik hippie type character,

and they're often known for their free -thinking

ways and marijuana and whatnot, so... You know,

go with that wherever you want to go. And really,

if you jump to 1988 and you watch a pup named

Scooby -Doo, his dad shows up. His dad was a

cop in Coolsville, and his dad and his mom had

the whole 70s, free -thinking, hippie vibe. Yeah,

and then we get into another reason why I don't

necessarily... love Casey Kasem. During the production

the second season Casey Kasem became a strict

vegetarian and wanted Shaggy to follow suit.

Kasem was promised by Hanna Barbera that his

character would become vegetarian from that point

on. Hanna Barbera actually kept their end of

the bargain from 70 to 71 season of the show.

But in subsequent spin -off series, Shaggy is

routinely seen snacking on non -vegetarian foods.

Kasem put his foot down over this issue in 1995

after he was required to perform Shaggy's voice

for commercial advertising Burger King kids club

meals. Kasem refused to perform the voice after

that and did not return to the role until 2002.

So that is why we have a couple other people

voicing Shaggy because Casey Kasem again is using

the cartoon to basically forward his own agenda.

Wow See why you don't like him. Yeah, he did

the same thing in transformers with car bomb.

Yeah, so whatever But I will give him credit

he's got a great voice I just wish he wouldn't

use kids cartoons to try to promote his agenda

Kidding. I mean come on. It's a cartoon character.

Why can't he eat whatever he wants to I mean

I can see if he's saying he shouldn't eat maybe

as much as he does but In a vegetarian and yeah,

whatever Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox again

Okay, what are the two of you have no comments

on that? Huh? Well, you know Whatever to each

their own. I guess do you think that Shaggy should

have been a vegetarian on the show? No, but I

mean if that's you know, I don't know. I mean

Casey Kasem and no offense to the guy but Casey

Kasem is a Pretty strange guy when you really

think of I mean between him and Orson Welles,

you know A lot of it. They've got a lot. They

had a lot of agenda I mean Casey is still alive,

you know horse and rest in peace, but I mean

If that's the way he wanted to do business, that's

the way he did business. I guess I don't know

He doesn't argue with the with the Bible of Scooby

-Doo. Yeah Another interesting note Velma's famous

line my glasses I can't see without them was

actually not in the script Velma's voice over

actress Nicole Jaffe who was nearsighted as well

lost her glasses and uttered that and that basically

Velma's famous catchphrase the writers like the

line so much that Velma losing her glasses became

one of the show's trademark gags So that's kind

of an interesting note Let's see What else is

interesting here Everybody thought that Velma

was Thelma. Oh, yeah Velma with a V not a TH

Shaggy and Scooby are the only characters to

be in every incarnation of the series All the

other ones were dropped at one point or not in

there, you know at one point or whatever 13 ghosts

is where Tom Ruger got his start That's it. Yeah,

that is where you got to start and obviously

Tom Ruger did great things like Tiny Toon Adventures

and Animaniacs later on. And a pup named Scooby

Doo. Well, I wasn't gonna mention that because

it's not nearly as good as Tiny Toons and Animaniacs.

But alright, okay, but alright, but if you look

at Tom Ruger's start here in 13 ghosts, and then

he went to a pup named Scooby Doo, and then he

went to Tiny Toons and Animaniacs, it keeps getting

better and better and better. Yeah. Another interesting

Shaggy because he's always been cast as a straight

man and he kind of wanted to be the comedic character

and Casey Kasem wanted to be Fred. So they got

each other's roles. That would have been interesting.

Yeah, no kidding. That would have been interesting.

Frank Welker as a druggy? Hmm. Oh, you admit

it. I said Frank Welker as a druggie, there's

a big difference. Alright, so what we're gonna

do now is we're gonna take a little musical break,

you're gonna hear some of the other theme songs,

and we'll be back with the music segment. or

maybe didn't like the theme songs, but I think

I put in there the new Scooby -Doo movies theme

and the 13 Ghost theme. I will say that, you

know, I always have to try to talk about my theme

songs a little bit, but the Scooby -Doo theme

song, in my opinion, is the best cartoon theme

song that aired before 1980. You mean the Scooby

-Doo Where Are You theme? Yeah, the Scooby -Scooby

-Doo Where Are You. That one is the greatest

theme song to air before 1980. I think there's

some that were better afterwards, but in the

early cartoons, classic cartoons, I think Scooby

-Doo has the greatest theme song. Right. And

as far as the series' original music, Ted Nichols

and Will Schaeffer had done some, and surprise,

surprise, Hannibal Buer's go -to guy, Hoyt Carton,

did a lot of the music as well. But what do you

guys think of the different music? I mean obviously

music was huge and scooby -doo It wasn't just

the theme songs like like glade had mentioned

the chase scenes were basically made Not only

to have this like little comedic gag type thing

But they were made to have basically have a chance

to put some different musical tracks in there

to kind of forward the action and kind of keep

people interested and kind of give them a little

break from the Regular talking. I mean, I don't

remember a lot of the music used for the chase

scenes. I remember the theme songs more but you

guys remember? Mike, do you remember any of the

actual music from the Chases? What I remember,

and it's, you know, it's a staple of Scooby -Doo,

I don't know if they still do it today, but what

I remember is like, in most of the shows, they

would always have the gag of one of them going

to start the music. Yeah. And then they would

put on a song. And they would go through this

whole chase scene and the monster would chase

them, they would chase the monster. I don't remember

the actual songs that they used, but it was a

nice break up instead of... It was a way for

it to get to be a 22 minute cartoon or an hour

cartoon or however long it was supposed to be.

Too long. It's not too long. But anyways, um,

yeah, I don't know Glade you're not a big fan

of any of the music or any of the theme songs

The theme songs? No, I have the theme song stuck

in my head right now If it weren't for the Scooby

-Scooby -Doo Stop, stop! I resist the temptation

to bang my head against my desk You don't like

the theme song? I can understand you not liking

the show, but really you don't like the theme

song? If you hear it too many times you tend

to hate it I guess. You, yeah. Well, just...

Just, yeah. I, yeah. I mean, I don't... So classic,

so classic. Terrorists should be interrogated

with that music playing. Ouch. Don't hate the

music, but I just heard it so So much too often.

Yeah Like I said before I I like the where are

you theme, but my favorite theme Was the one

for the new scooby -doo movies. I really really

enjoyed that one I can't comment on that so I

can say I like the original one the best I think

I Like the one you just played the best. That's

my favorite one. Yeah to each their own This

is torture, yeah. Okay then. Yeah, exactly. So

getting into the legacy segment, uh, critical

career action and awards, oh boy. What? Evan,

take it away. Scooby Doo obviously has maintained

a fantastic, significant fan base. It's grown

especially since the 90s. It's been very popular

with both young children and obviously the nostalgic

adults who grew up in the 70s watching it. The

mix of comedy adventure slash horror mystery

has had widespread success. uh... basically as

frets over and have a very staffed plan when

they first began producing the the serious could

use ghost monsters and spooky locales ten more

towards humor than horror so they're easily accessible

to younger children. It's just not a show that

is going to over -stimulate kids' emotions and

tensions, according to the American Center for

Children and media executive director David Kleeman.

It creates just enough fun to make it fun without

getting them worried or giving them nightmares,

and it has had a bunch of different recognition.

For example, the August 2002 issue of TV Guide

featured its list of the 50 greatest cartoon

characters of all time. Scooby -Doo got 22nd.

So that's pretty good. It was also ranked 13th

in Animal Planet's list of the 50 Greatest TV

Animals. Scooby -Doo Where Are You ranked first

in England's 2005 list of the 100 Greatest Cartoons

of All Time. So it ranked number one in that.

For one year 2004 to 2005, Scooby Doo held the

Guinness World Record for having the most episodes

of any animated television series ever produced,

a record previously held by and later returned

to The Simpsons. Scooby Doo was published as

holding this record in the 2006 Guinness Book

of World Records. And then there's obviously

a ton of shows that have made reference to it.

Wayne's World, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Saturday

Night Live, Johnny Bravo, the Venture Brothers,

Robot Chicken, The Simpsons, they've all made

reference to Scooby -Doo at some point. So that

kind of just shows its legacy and how much impact

and influence it's had on the different generations.

In January 2009 IGN named scooby -doo 24th in

its list of the top 100 best animated TV shows

or shit Sorry You can't wait to get a 24th at

all time. It should be higher I know blade you

don't like it But just for its longevity any

cartoon that's been on for 40 plus years and

had the second most episodes ever of any cartoon

Regardless of whether you like it or not should

be out there. Like, I don't like Simpsons, but

Simpsons should be in the top five of any cartoon

list ever. I don't like Simpsons, but just because

of the longevity, it should be in the top five

of any list you make. And I feel the same way

about Scooby -Doo. I just happen to like Scooby

-Doo. I agree with the longevity, but the torture

of it? No. Well, that's how I feel if I watch

Simpsons. You know, Glade really hasn't said

why he thinks it's torturous. Well, he said it's

repetitive, which I agree. I don't have the exact

number of how many episodes of Scooby -Doo has

aired since 1969, but you basically have hundreds

and hundreds of episodes that have the exact

same formula being used. So I can understand

that to a point, but obviously it is something

that has worked with multiple different generations.

So even if you don't like it, it is something

that has been proven to work. Mean it would not

have been on the air for 40 years if it was doing

crappy and ratings But I agree with glade to

the point that it is repetitive if you're something

that wants to see Something a little more creative

if you want writers that are writing Stuff you've

never seen before if you're someone that like

appreciates stuff like Star Trek where you get

something new every single episode You're not

gonna be someone that loves the writing and scooby

-doo because you can basically predict every

single episode That's why I don't like it Right,

so I can understand that. If it's just something

that's enjoyable by kids, obviously kids aren't

going to be that critical to it, but I can definitely

see as an older teenager to adult why you can

get tired of it. Exactly, and we've had tons

of Scooby -Doo merchandise. In 1966, Chevrolet

Sport Van 108 painted a look like the Mystery

Machine. From Scooby Doo, a number of Scooby

fans have decorated vans in this fashion. The

other early Scooby merchandise included a 1973

Milton Bradley board game, Decorated in lunchboxes,

iron -on transfer, coloring books, storybooks,

records, underwear, and other such goods. Many

people have had Scooby -Doo underwear, let me

tell ya. When Scrappy -Doo was introduced to

the series in 1979, he, Scooby, and Shaggy became

the sole focus of much of the merchandising,

including the 1983 Milton Bradley Scooby -Doo

and Scrappy -Doo board game. Well, I gotta find

one of those. Go over to Glade's house and make

him play it. The first Scooby -Doo video game

appeared in arcades in 1986 and has been followed

by a number of games for both home consoles and

personal computers. Scooby -Doo multivitamins

also debuted at this time and have been manufactured

by Bayer since 2001. The Scooby Snack anyone?

Yeah. Merchandising kind of tapered off in the

late 80s and early 90s, but then it increased

when the Scooby franchise got a revival in the

mid 90s. You know, you can get Scooby Doo breakfast

cereal now, plush toys, action figures. We used

to sell those at Target when I worked there.

Car decorations. Real Scooby Snack dog treats

are produced by Del Monte Pet Products. Hasbro

has created a number of Scooby board games, including

a version of Clue. I don't know if they have

or not, but I'm assuming they also might have

a version of Monopoly out there somewhere that's

Scooby -Doo themed. Yeah. And beginning in 2001,

a Scooby -Doo children's book series was authorized

by Scholastic, so if you're a fan of Scooby -Doo,

you're not going to ever run out of merchandise

or stuff to buy that's Scooby -Doo related. Yes,

and it has several of the series are on DVD.

Of course, The 13 Ghosts of Scooby -Doo, I have

it right here in my hand, yay. That's on DVD.

The all -new Scooby and Scrappy Doo show is not

on DVD yet. New Scooby Doo movies, they are on

DVD. New Scooby Doo mysteries, they are on DVD.

A Pup Named Scooby Doo, that's actually in the

other room. I gotta go get that. I'm gonna have

to watch that tonight. Yes. Why don't you like

A Pup Named Scooby Doo, damn it? I don't dislike

it. It's just, I don't like it compared to the

other Scooby Doo stuff. Well... It was one of

the best kids shows, so... No, I know, but yeah,

but you can't, whatever. It was better than Flintstones,

kids. Yeah, it definitely was. Richie Rich and

the Scooby -Doo Hours is on DVD. Yeah, and then

the other two that are on DVD is Scooby -Doo

Where Are You, which is getting a complete series

Mystery Machine Van. box and then scooby -doo

and the dino mud hour actually scooby -doo get

a clue in what's new scooby -doo is also on dvd

the only ones that aren't on dvd are basically

the the net god are the all new scooby and scrappy

do show scooby and scrappy do puppy hour and

um scooby and scrappy do so if you see a theme

there the only ones that aren't on dvd are the

ones that have scrappy in them they'll be on

dvd eventually hopefully hopefully there's something

with the Hopefully something with a scrappy name

or something is licensed by someone else and

they can never put those out on DVD. Oh, much

like Hasbro will never put out GoBots on DVD,

thank god. Much like Mother Babies will never

be on DVD. Well, we can both agree on that, that

kinda sucks, but... It sucks that GoBots will

never be on DVD, too. No it doesn't. GoBots should

never get a DVD release, never. Alright, so we're

gonna go through some voicemails and promos and

all that happy crap and we'll come back with

the outro. Tooncast will be back after these

questions! Hello, Tooncast. This is Kevin calling

in with a few thoughts on Scooby -Doo. I was

a big fan of the original series, and some of

my first cartoon memories were of Scooby -Doo.

And I think it's one of the staples of TV animation.

And I like how they would include celebrities

in the show. I remember celebrities like Don

Knotts or Deanna. the Addams Family or the Globetrotters.

So, you know, Scooby -Doo had to be popular enough

to get that sort of attention from Hollywood.

And one thing that stood out to me that I don't

think a lot of folks realized was the music.

And I think that the music was just as important

as any other part of the production. So, you

know, there are pieces written... just for the

chase sequences or the party scenes. And I thought

that was a nice touch for them to, you know,

kind of add that, you know, and really include

as a part of the production. And favorite character,

of course, was Scooby -Doo. Least favorite character

was Scrappy -Doo. I mean, Scrappy did provide

an interesting contrast to Scooby's character,

but I thought it was, I thought he was just so

incredibly annoying. He was brave and all, but

I didn't feel like Scrappy was backing up all

that shit he was talking, and I know you guys

might call bullshit on that, but honestly, I

really did not like Scrappy as a character. Now,

on a technical note, I did have one big problem

with the series, and I noticed this even as a

kid, and that's the fact that they would reuse

a lot of the animation. I mean, sometimes they

would reuse the... the exact same run cycle for

every sequence, and that really got on my nerves.

And sometimes it looked like it was off -scale.

And I think that if it wasn't for the celebrity

of the show or the villain in the show, there

probably wouldn't be any new animation at all.

So I know that Hannah Barbera is notorious for

that. But I wish they had taken that a bit further,

you know, because after a while it just looks

kind of cheesy to, you know, just reuse a bunch

of the stuff. As a cartoon, though, I do think

that it stood the test of time with a few hiccups

along the way. I didn't really keep up with a

pub named Scooby -Doo or any of the live -action

movies or what's new Scooby -Doo. The straight

to DVD animated movies were pretty good, and

much to my surprise. I mean, much, much to my

surprise. The new series, Gooby -Doo Mystery,

Inc. is, in my opinion, the best follow -up so

far. So, I hope I sent this message to you guys

in time before you record the show, and take

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So, final thoughts on Scooby -Doo, Kevin? Oh.

like i said before you know i i think any cartoon

was to make in the ranks like the top cartoons

of all time you got to consider scooby -doo in

the top ten on just for its longevity it's been

going forever on there's tons of episodes and

it has somehow successfully reinvented itself

even though it really haven't done much reinventing

as far as continuing to to hit with new generations

of done that even though it's basically the same

show that aired nineteen sixty nine now uh...

I like that the current show is giving homages

to the old shows. I love the old theme song.

It's completely classic and awesome. Is it one

of the best written cartoons out there? No. If

you're someone that likes plot and someone that

likes, you know, twists and turns and stuff like

that, you're not going to be a fan of Scooby

Doo. But if you're just someone that just wants

to show your kids some just like pure, just,

you know, sit back and enjoy type entertainment

for a little bit from time to time, you know.

That's basically the purpose it serves. You know,

I enjoyed watching the show while I waited for

more complex shows to come on. And Glade? Well,

I would have just groaned, but I'm sure people

are tired of hearing that. So I'll just say watch

one episode from probably each of the series.

And you basically got Scooby Doo in a nutshell,

except for the Scrappy Doo stuff. Don't watch

that. Well, to be fair. A Pup Named Scooby Doo

was a lot of fun. Oh, that's not the one I'm

dissing. I'm sorry. I know, but I'm just saying,

to include it, even though we're talking about

all of the stuff before, like right before A

Pup Named Scooby Doo came out, to be fair, A

Pup Named Scooby Doo has probably some of the

best storytelling out of all of them, even though

it is the same type of formula. Which isn't saying

a lot. No, I'm not saying I'm not and I'm not

trying to disagree with you I'm saying it does

have the best storytelling out of all the scooby

-doos but you can't compare the storytelling

in any scooby -doo to like anything else that

was out there except for like Like you said,

I mean obviously it's better than like Flintstone

kids and some of that other stuff But I mean

writing and transformers even though the writing

isn't good and transformers is way better than

writing in any scooby -doo episode episode regardless

of which show you're watching I We'll agree with

the old stuff, but I'm sorry. A pup named Scooby

-Doo had way better writing than Transformers.

I disagree. No, it did. Blasphemy. Let's just

say if I had to watch any series of Scooby -Doo,

it would be a pup named Scooby -Doo without any

issue or complaint from me. There you go. And

you can get those DVDs on Amazon, I think, because

that's where I got them. So, thank you for joining

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