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Muppet Babies Review

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About this Episode

Mike and Kevin dive into Jim Henson's beloved animated series about the Muppets as babies, exploring the show's seven-year run on CBS, its innovative use of live-action film clips in fantasy sequences, the talented voice cast including Dave Coulier and Frank Welker, and why it remains one of the best kid-oriented cartoons of the 1980s despite never receiving a full DVD release due to copyright complications.

No Hello and welcome to tune cast episode 76

we recorded episode 76 When we record that Kevin

Tuesday night. Oh, yeah, how you gonna ask me

questions like that? Yeah, that sounds yeah,

we recorded this Tuesday night and at the time

We thought everything was copacetic and cool

and and everything else and we recorded this

I believe it was Tuesday the The 12th of October

and since then News has come down the pipe that

Miss Barbara Billingsley has passed away the

voice of nanny has passed away ladies and gentlemen,

so It's very very sad, so please forgive this

episode of Tooncast because we recorded it before

This news came down the pipe and according to

behindthevoiceactors .com The actors who some

believe to have personified the quintessential

TV mom has died Barbara Billingsley, star of

Leave It to Beaver, passed away early this morning

at the age of 94. The exact cause of death is

not known. She had been in poor health for some

time. So that would have been just in case, you

know, that doesn't coincide with the release

date. We're talking about the morning of October

16th. Right. And this episode will be released

on the 20th. So just basically when we're talking

about voice actors and we mentioned Barbara Villainsley,

just keep in mind that we didn't know this information

yet. I mean we didn't say anything bad, we didn't

say anything... No, yeah. We only said good things

about her, but we probably talked about her like

as in the present. Right, yeah. Like I said,

at the time that we recorded the episode, because

we normally record these episodes a few weeks

before they're actually released, we didn't know...

I don't think anybody knew. I mean, yes, it does

say that she's in family health, but I don't

think any, like, just generic people like us

knew that she was going to pass away, and this

news just came down the pipe, so... So, rest

in peace, Barbara Billingsley, and, you know,

prayers go out to her family and everything else,

and... I guess now you can listen on Tooncast,

episode 76, Muppet Babies. This is the brain,

and you're listening to the GeekCast Radio Network.

Yes! Is everything alright in here? Yes ma 'am!

Hello and welcome to the 76th episode of Tooncast

brought to you by the GeekCast Radio Network.

I am your host, JFJ on mic, and joining me is

Optimus Solo. Hello, sir. Hello, sir. How are

you? I'm doing pretty good. Yes, and today we

are going to be talking about the Muppet Babies.

Is that your best Kermit impression? No, no,

not at all. I don't have a Kermit impression.

Kinda sounded like him. Well I'll run with it

then, yes it was. Oh man, what are you gonna

do? Let's see, I just got done yesterday watching

a million shows on the hub. So now, I don't know,

I'm trying to recover I guess. But let's see,

what have I done recently that has been interesting?

Not a whole lot. I added a couple more shows

at BTBA. Didn't I was pretty lazy today. I'll

admit So I haven't done a whole lot that's not

like in every other day occurrence so Some days

are more productive than others All right, so

I guess I haven't met up too much either we're

actually recording episode 76 within like a Day

and a half of recording 75 so there's really

not that much to talk about Same old, same old.

So let's get into the history lesson for Muppet

Babies. Alrighty then, Jim Henson's Muppet Babies.

sometimes simply referred to as Muppet Babies,

is an American animated television series that

aired from September 15th, 1984 to November 2nd,

1991 on CBS. It was spun off from a dream sequence

in the movie The Muppets Take Manhattan which

was released two months earlier where Miss Piggy

imagined what it would be like if she and Kermit

the Frog had grown up together. The show portrayed

childhood versions of the Muppets living together

in a large nursery in the care of a human woman

who is simply referred to as Nanny. The whereabouts

of the parents of the Muppet babies were never

addressed. Nanny appears in almost every episode,

but viewers never see her face. Only the babies

view of her pink skirt as well as her distinctive

green and white striped socks. Muffet Babies

was produced by the Jim Henson Company, obviously,

and Marvel Productions. The rights are now held

by Disney ABC Domestic Television. Although the

episodes were 30 minutes, including commercials,

it was typically shown in 60 or even 90 -minute

blocks during the peak of its popularity. Outside

of the U .S., the show was distributed by Walt

Disney Television Animation, and there were 107

total episodes produced over the seven -year

series run. So what do you remember about the

Muppet Babies? This show is just awesome. This

is one of the kid version shows. And we'll talk

about this later, but there's several different

quote unquote younger version shows like Pup

Named Scooby Doo, Flintstone's Kids. I don't

think they ever did Jetson's kids. I don't think

George and Judy and his kids would really work.

They did a whole lot of other ones. Yeah. Scooby

Doo, or you said a pup named Scooby Doo. Yeah,

I did. I think the Archies. Yeah, the new Archies.

Yeah, that was kind of the recurring theme, especially

from Hanna -Barbera, to do that. Yeah, this one

was awesome because it's kid versions of the

Muppets and yeah, this is probably one of the

best kid version of a Cartoon type thing that

we've ever had And it's very true to the characters

too, although I don't remember I don't remember

is nuts. I remember scooter. What's his sister's

name Skeeter? I don't remember her in the actual

Muppets movies or show. That's because she wasn't

there. We'll get there in a second. Yeah, I have

very, very fond and strong memories of the Muppet

Babies. My sister and I watch this all the time.

This is one of our favorites. We always tune

into this. It was just fun. I like the mixture

of the animated stuff with the references to

live action movies like Star Wars or whatever

they, you know, Indiana Jones, the different

things that they referenced. And I thought it

was cool that they actually had the actual footage

of, from those movies in the cartoon and it made

it very cool. Yep. They're actually very surprising

they were able to get away with that. Of course,

they bought the rights to it. Yeah, there has

been some issues in direct or kind of some bad

side effects from that which we'll get to towards

the end, but But I just thought it was definitely

cool as a kid there there was some moments where

I Didn't understand the references because they

were from things that I didn't Ever I hadn't

seen they were more stuff that maybe adults would

have picked up on the references and as a kid

I remember a couple times being like what was

that? But it wasn't enough to take away from

the just the just coolness of The Muppet Babies,

and I was a big Jim Henson fan. I loved Sesame

Street. I loved the Muppet show. I loved all

the Muppet movies I remember watching those as

a family and So so I was a big fan of this Yeah,

this show is very very cool Yeah, I've never

actually tried to finalize a top 10 cartoons

of the 80s list, even though I've thought about

it often. Every time I've ever started to think

about that, though, Muppet Babies has been in

my first rough draft of top 10 80s cartoons.

Oh, yeah. And see, that's the problem, though.

You can't do, honestly. I will one day no Let

me finish damn it. You can't do what I was gonna

say was I know you too well No, what I was gonna

say was the 80s majority of the 80s stuff like

music and TV shows and cartoons and like all

the good stuff about the 80s minus the parachute

pants You can't do top 10 lists for that. You

have to do like top 50 top 100 seriously Because

there's so much good stuff about it. Yeah, I'll

narrow it down to ten It'll be hard, but I'll

do it talk about being an IGN replacement crew

exactly, but mine will make sense I'm just just

you know it should be noted though. I mean we

have done a lot of We've done 76 episodes not

all of them obviously were specific cartoon series

and whatnot, but we've done so many cartoon series

and you know not many of them last for you know

more than five years and this one lasted for

seven you could almost say lasted for eight if

you count the beginning and ending years and

whatnot but uh so this one this one had a long

lifespan and that but you know by itself separates

it from about 80 to 90 percent of other cartoons

ever Yeah, because most cartoons do not last

seven or eight years very true Well, there is

one exception, but that's a very overt exception

Yeah, I mean though there are a few exceptions.

There's a there's a dozen or so exceptions But

there's one major one that I can think of that's

actually coming up on the schedule Okay Simpsons.

Well, that doesn't count. Yes, it does shut up

Anyway you Simpsons hater Yeah, yeah adult it

is more it is more common with the with the primetime

more adult cartoons than it is with the kid cartoons

obviously But either way, I mean if you were

an 80s child you watched this at some point because

it was on basically during the entire decade

Minus the first couple years. So you were everybody

has everybody that Grew up or was born in the

80s was exposed to this at some point Unless

you lived in a cave Yeah, no, no caves here So

I guess getting into the characters and voice

actors here Of course the series stars Kermit

the Frog, Misfiggy, Fuzzy Bear, Animal, Scooter,

Skeeter, Rolf the dog and Gonzo is the main Muppets,

Dr. Bunsen, Honeydew and Beaker make regular

appearances as did Camilla in the form of Gonzo's

stuffed baby chicken In the final two seasons,

Bean Bunny and Statler and Waldorf began making

regular appearances. Wow. I need to see episodes

of young Statler and Waldorf. Holy crap, I never

saw those. They don't really look young young.

They just look a little bit younger. They still

have white and gray hair. And then several Muppets

made guest appearances including Janice and Kermit's

nephew Robin the Frog. This gets into your skeeter

scooter thing. The Muppet Baby character Skeeter,

which is Scooter's twin sister, only appeared

in this series and was never a live action Muppet.

This was done because the producers wanted another

female character added to the cast. Despite this,

Skeeter was always voiced by a male actor. Skeeter

was never made as a real puppet or Muppet. She

was made for and only seen in the animated version.

All other Muppet Babies had a Muppet counterpart

in the Muppet show. So they wanted another female

to offset Miss Piggy, which I don't blame them.

I'm just surprised that after this they didn't

that she didn't appear in a Muppet movie or a

Muppet show somehow That just kind of surprises

me I'm not surprised that it was a maid that

they introduced this character at for the cartoon

specifically But I'm surprised that then that

character didn't show up later But right either

way, I guess it's fair to have two females characters

I like this. A live -action version of all the

characters except Skeeter also appeared in a

Muppet Family Christmas in the form of a home

movie which the adult Muppets watched during

the Christmas party. The segment was cut out

of the home video releases because the rights

to Santa Claus is coming to town could not be

obtained. Why didn't they just talk to Bruce

Springsteen? uh... before we get into the actual

voice cast just looking back at the characters

we've mentioned uh... not thinking about muppets

or the muppet show what justin mother babies

did you have certain characters that you like

their certain characters that you dislike i've

never really been a fan of gonzo yeah he's okay

but he's annoying at best uh... i've always like

kermit i've always liked fuzzy And I've always

liked ralph so Okay, I guess those would be my

three Miss piggy when she isn't Stocking Kermit

And trust me I can say that and I don't mean

that in a bad way because I mean obviously Don't

know I just I didn't I've never really cared

for Miss Piggy or gonzo in in any form I mean,

I like some of the stuff that they did like when

they're at their actual Muppet stuff But even

in this they're okay, but they're they're not

favorite characters of mine Yeah I agree with

the Kermit and the Fozzie part. I mean, everybody

likes Kermit. I mean, I don't know how someone

could not like Kermit. I've always liked, like

you said, Fozzie and Rolf. I actually like Gonzo

to a point. Not as much as I like those other

characters, but I do like him. Miss Piggy is

easily my least favorite. I hate Miss Piggy.

I've always hated Miss Piggy in all forms of

anything. In this show, I also did not like Scooter

or Skeeter. They just didn't do anything for

me. The problem that I have with Scooter is that

they make him to be some sort of science nerd

or computer nerd and in the actual, I don't know

about the movies but I mean because I've seen

the movies but just in the actual Muppet show

he was obviously Kermit Stagehand. He was you

know the producer not really the producer but

he was the you know The gopher guy he would get

everything set up and everything else and in

the movies for the most part He would do the

same thing. He would get everything set up or

find accommodations for him like I think it's

Is it great Muppet caper where they're? Like

Muppet caper he's at the hotel where they stay

no I know but there's one movie where they have

to like hide out in bus lockers and it's like

a quarter per per hour per day or something or

other. It might have been Muppet Steak Manhattan,

I'm not sure. Yeah, but Scooter usually plays

a pretty small role in the movies. Yeah. But

yeah, I just don't care for Scooter or Skeeter.

Oh, another one of my favorites is I've always

been a huge fan of Beaker. I love Beaker. I love

his voice. I love his mannerisms. He's just a

cool character to me. What voice? All he does

is say, me, me, me, me, me. I know, but he does

it in a cool way. Um animal I love animal I Really

do he um both in in muppet form and an animated

form. He is just awesome. Yeah He is cool, you

know He's not my favorite, but he's not I'd have

nothing against him, right? I think it's in the

I think it's in the muppet movie where they're

graduating from college or something He comes

up on stage or he's doing something and all of

a sudden he starts chasing this woman And he's

like woman woman he starts chasing her. Oh my

god It's it's hard to talk about this cartoon

and not talk about the actual live -action stuff.

It just is this is another one of those ones

where Like Alf the animated series. It's hard

to talk about this without comparing it to the

live -action stuff And it's just hilarious as

far as like designs go As far as like comparing

these to the actual Muppet counterparts I think

they did a pretty fantastic job of making them

look almost identical to the Muppets. Oh, yeah

the one exception is And then maybe I'm just

saying this because I hate her but miss piggy

looks distinctly different from the Muppet form

No, she she kind of looks a little bit spot -on,

but I think she looks the most different than

all the other ones Yeah, she probably does but

it's not Majority of them like Kermit Fozzie

and Rolf specifically an animal those four specifically

They basically just miniaturize them made them

younger and put them in diapers. Mm -hmm Miss

Piggy, I don't know what that I don't really

remember what they were trying to go for there

There is a slight change, but I think where the

shorter hair and she's that's shorter and fatter

and Well, the hair is what I meant was the change

it's it's shorter hair Don't know. I just don't

like her at all in any form Better be careful.

She might come to your house and go hi ya know

I would kick her ass. Yeah, I will not be afraid

to hit a girl pig. Oh wow Okay, then all right

moving on to the voice cast here Greg Berg was

the voice of baby Fozzie and baby scooter Wow

Dave Coulier was the voice of Baby Animal, Baby

Bunsen, and Baby Bean Bunny, and Baby Janice

from - And Uncle Waldorf and Uncle Styler. Oh,

wow. And Camilla occasionally from 86 to 91.

Wow. Yeah, see, I gotta find some young Styler

and Waldorf shorts. Katie Lee was Baby Rolfe

and Mrs. Mitchell. Howie Mandel, oh my god. Howie

Mandel was basically Dave Coulier the first season

or so and then Dave Coulier took over. Okay,

holy crap. Laurie O 'Brien was Baby Piggy and

then Russie Taylor was Gonzo the Great, Robin

and Camilla occasionally. And Aunt Fanny as well.

Frank Welker, surprise surprise, is Baby Kermit,

Baby Skeeter from 86 to 90. Baby Beaker, Camilla

the Chief Inspector of Scotland Yard. Oh boy.

And, of course, Barbara Billingsley was Nanny.

Yeah. I was kind of surprised. I think Dave Colley

and Howie Mandel sound decently alike. Yep. To

the point where, I mean, if you're hearing the

clips back to back, you're going to be able to

tell the difference. But as a kid, I did not

know they switched with all those people. Yeah,

I didn't know either. And even with Baby Skater

being Frank Welker and... Howie Mandel I didn't

realize that those two had been switched either

You know, but it's a pretty darn good voice cast

Yeah, really. I mean, I know a lot of people

hate Dave Coulier and Howie Mandel But I thought

they did pretty darn good and I actually like

Dave Coulier. I'm not a fan of Howie's but I

love Dave He's awesome. Yeah, and Greg Berg is

good. Katie Lee's fantastic. Rusty Taylor's awesome.

Frank Walker is a legend I mean, this is a great

freaking cast You know, I am surprised that they

did not get Henson and Oz to do it. Yeah, they

were still freaking busy though at the time.

I know, but I'm just saying I'm surprised that

they didn't. And what really surprises me is

how close. And I know like Frank Walker, he is

a mimic. But you know, a lot of these voice actors

nowadays and even back then were mimics. So I

mean, you know. The voices came out fairly close

to the yeah, I mean Frank's Frank's Kermit is

is you know, obviously not as good as Jim Jim's

but it's it's a good cartoon version of it. Right,

right Yeah, so If you had to pick a favorite

voice, who would it be? I like the fact That

I mean this is this isn't exactly my favorite

voice but one thing before I say that I like

the fact that all guys did Skeeter and that Girls

did gonzo and ralph. I Think that was interesting

It's also interesting that Frank Oz always did

miss piggy and all the Muppet stuff, but then

they picked a girl to do her in this So it's

always weird to find out that guys voices were

done by girls or vice versa I'd say in this one

my favorite voice is either Greg Berg's Fozzie

or possibly Katie Lee's Rolf. Hands down, Dave

Coulier's Animal. Yeah, that's cool too. Hands

down. I don't know if I have a least favorite

voice. I'd probably have to say Miss Piggy again.

And Barbara Billingsley was pretty cool as Nanny.

Great choice for that. Moving into the behind

the scenes segment here, you got a bunch of people

I don't know. Obviously Jim Henson was on the

writing staff. Hank Sorian. I've heard of him.

Never heard of him. Oh, well you will eventually.

Rich Fogel, I know him. That's very cool. Production

history stuff we want to cover here We already

talked about how it kind of basically came from

that dream fantasy sequence or whatever And in

that sequence There are the sequences so successful.

That's why they kind of went to this Other than

that There was a little different animation stuff.

You had Japanese toy animation for seasons one

through three a Korean place for some other stuff

and then obviously Marvel Productions and Sunbow

Productions took a hand in that but that's not

too fantastically interesting. No, you're mixing

up the info there. Well, I'm saying the Korean

base that did... Well, Acom Productions... Right.

Did for episodes six First episode six of season

four through season eight both of which also

animated GI Joe and transformers from Mars So

it was a calm basically working on all three

gotcha. That's what the information was there

Yeah, Muppet Babies proved highly popular obviously

said it ran for eight seasons And at the height

of its popularity it ran in two or three episode

blocks, and it did take over a big section for

CBS I believe is what what we said it was Aaron

on, it took up a huge block for them. So that

was kind of a staple there. They didn't have

to really come up with too much other programming.

The other only other thing I wanted to mention

was basically that for a brief run in the second

season, it became Muppet Babies and Monsters

2. Some people won't remember that, but a second

half hour was dedicated to a new show called

Little Muppet Monsters. which featured live -action

puppets and cartoons starring the adult Muppet

characters. But the program only lasted three

weeks before Jim Henson pulled the plug on it.

He was never a fan of the idea to begin with,

but it was, I think, more of a thing where the

station or some type of company was pushing to

do it. So despite 18 episodes having been made,

only three of them ever aired. And then it went

back to Muppet Babies. That's why it was on for

90 minutes at one point. And then they also had

another cancelled show that was with it at one

point called The Garbage Pail Kids, for those

that remember that. So neither one of those lasted,

so Muppet Baby sometimes was aired longer than

they intended originally. Right, right. Mopa

Babies entered local syndication in 1989 through

Cluster Television. The series ran on local stations

until 1992, often affiliates of the new Fox network.

Syndication rights were sold to Nickelodeon Nick

Jr. in 1992 -99, and Odyssey Network in 1990

-2000 in the United States, with only 94 episodes

in regular rotation in the United Kingdom. It

re -runs on Playhouse Disney UK, Disney Channel

UK, and Disney Cinemagic. While 107 episodes

in regular rotation, the UK is best known from

its first run on UK TV on BBC on Saturday mornings

during Going Live at 8 .15am. Muppet Babies has

been off the air since 2000 and reruns on Nickelodeon

and Odyssey Network the intro was truncated and

the 1984 closing was replaced with the 1985 closing.

Huh. Alrighty then. Yes. I guess we can move

into the actual show here Yeah, I mean basically

we said it before I mean the Muppet Babies are

living in a large nursery which watched over

by Nanny who's basically the only human character

that we see on a regular basis. And the show

just kind of focuses on the baby's imaginations.

And they go on these adventures to fantastical

or imaginary worlds or perilous situations like

Indiana Jones or Star Wars type stuff. And then

eventually some external event would bring them

out of it, like Nanny coming to see what all

the ruckus was or what the noise was. Then all

of a sudden they would kind of come out of their

imaginary worlds and be back in the nursery again.

So it's basically... a great show that deals

with a lot about kids finding their own ways

to entertain themselves and for you know I always

get sick and tired of people when they say that

they're bored or this or that because you know

it's that that old saying that you know you're

only as bored as you make yourself and if you

can you know have some creativity and imagination

you can entertain yourselves and this show is

great at kind of demonstrating that right I love

this is easily the best ending of any 80s cartoon

show basically they ended the show every episode

um uh after the credits the episodes would end

with animal shouting out his catchphrase go bye

bye usually while gonzo blasted off into the

sky due to some accident he or animal had caused

right that was great yeah And like we said before,

there was live action film sequences were added

in unusual moments. Like when the babies opened

a door, a box, or a book, they were often confronted

with anything from a speeding train to a spaceship.

Foreign landscapes in their imagination were

usually photos or bits of stock footage, which

the babies would walk across interacting indirectly

with the film's actors. Like one great scene

where they, I remember Miss Piggy and somebody,

Miss Piggy's dressed up like Little Red Riding

Hood. and she's trying to find her grandma's

house or whatever and for some reason they like

fly off to the Dagobah system to find her grandma

and she's like walking through and she meets

up with Yoda. And it's actually the real Yoda,

so she's kind of interacting with Yoda, although

Greg Berg dubs over the voices of Frank Oz. And

then afterwards she's like, what was that guy

talking about? And kind of just walks by and

keeps going with her thing. So stuff like that.

Star Wars, old black and white horror, monster

films, Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones, all those

types of things are seen throughout these live

action little segments. Right, right. Yep. And

then basically the only other thing about the

actual show is you know it's all from the baby's

point of view so things are huge because they're

babies so they're always looking up at things

like door handles or you know counters or whatever

so there's big obstacles because they're these

small little critters. And that's why we also

have the faces of the adults characters never

shown because they are basically doing it from

the baby's viewpoint. Right. The only exception

was Uncle Stadler and Uncle Waldorf and a few

of the other Muppet style adults in the fantasy

worlds. Right. So I just love the format that

they use in this show it kept it fresh it kept

it moving You were never bored with it because

they were always going on some adventure Which

was you know like you said just open a door and

all sudden there was something new and fantastical

To me this show was never slow, and it was never

boring right yeah No, it wasn't not at all It

was very very awesome actually so moving into

the music segment Approximately 100 of the songs

were co -written by Alan O'Day and Janice Leibhart,

with the exception of the theme song written

and performed by Hank Sorian and Rob Walsh. The

song that would play as the ending credits were

shown was entitled Hank in the Box. Hank in the

Box, actually. The series' music was obviously

Hank or... Crap. Robert J. Walsh. Robert Irving

and Hank Sarian. And the music's pretty good

on this. The Mother Baby theme song's pretty

classic. I mean, I wouldn't put it in like a

top five list or anything, but it's still pretty

good. Yep. And it was voted top cartoon of the

childhood days by the Irving Hall newspapers.

Weekly review of the Pennsylvania State University

in 2007. I'm getting into the legacy Yeah, I

screwed that up. I'm getting into the legacy

segment here ladies and gentlemen It was also

won four consecutive daytime Emmys for outstanding

animated program 1985 to 1988 and won a humanitis

prize for children's animation in 85 So this

this cartoon won many more awards than almost

anything any other cartoon in the 80s, right?

In the in the moving into like the merchandise

stuff in the mid 80s you can't go that far you

can't skip our IGN thing for today I didn't even

see it you are all over the place damn it get

your shit together shut up in January 2009 IGN

named Jim Henson's Muppet Babies as 31st best

in the top 100 best animated TV shows so it made

it all the way up to 31 Yeah, I would say it

should be a little bit higher than that Yeah,

and you already mentioned all the wins for the

award so I didn't mention all of them I'm not

I'm not going through that whole list it won

a bunch of awards and was nominated for a bunch

of awards I'm not going to a whole fucking list

You just want excuses for you jumping around

all out of order Doesn't matter. I will mention

the one of the words I want to say specifically

because it was to one of the voice actors. Barbara

Billingsley got nominated for Outstanding Performer

in a Children's Series twice in 89 and 90, so

that's kind of cool. Yes it is. So getting into

the merchandise here. In the 1980s, PBC Muffet

Babies toys were available as prizes in McDonald's

Happy Meals. Each non -articulated character

came with a wheeled vehicle. Sometime later,

special Christmas stuff versions of The Muppet

Babies were available in Happy Meals 2. I definitely

had a few of those. I remember having a few as

well. In 1992, after the last aired Muppet Babies

episode, in 1991 episode book collection called

The Muppet Babies was produced from a book company

called Groiler. It was called The Muppet Babies

Press Books. The book talked mostly about the

character traits and learning for young children.

It was produced and ended in 1992. There's also

some comic books out there for Muppet Babies,

but like you can tell if you're a fan of Tooncast,

we don't like to talk too much about comic books.

Well, I mean, it's, no. It's nice, like, um...

They're out there, you can get them if you want.

Other short stories contained in Star Comics

Digest included Mad Bowls, Heathcliff, Care Bears,

Top Dog, which apparently Muppet Babies was also

in, so... Getting into the video and DVD releases,

which is there there really isn't any but Although

not every Muppet Babies episode was released

on VHS a number of them were released between

1993 and 95 one series Released on VHS called.

Yes, I can included three videos which featured

two Muppet Babies episodes inside the series

focused on Robin the Frog who asks his uncle

Kermit for assistance in different chores as

he struck his He was struggling with such as

cleaning his room or doing his homework. Kermit

would lead off into a Muppet Babies episode,

which told of similar situations. Sometimes he

would give examples about achieving Robin's trouble.

For example, in one Yes I Can video, Robin is

worried about making new friends and Kermit tells

him that sharing is an example of having good

friendship, which leads directly to a Muppet

Babies episode. And then we get into the reason

why some of those live action segments were possibly

problematic. Basically, although the show was

and still is hugely popular, there have been

no plans announced of any DVD releases of Muffin

Babies. One possible reason is that clips from

other TV shows and movies such as Star Trek,

Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, etc. etc.

were used extensively in these imagination sequences

and scenes on the TV in the nursery and thus

could pose difficulties in terms of resolving

possible copyright issues and rights issues and

royalties and all that. So recently a few episodes

were made available in uncut form. as bonus DVDs

with Muppet Baby plush toys, but do not look

for this to be on DVD anytime soon. That sucks.

Yeah, I mean I understand why and there's no

way around it, you know. You can't blame all

the companies that, you know, it's all legal

bullshit. But yeah, I mean I suppose they could

but they'd have to go through and find each and

every person that holds the royalty to every

TV show in every movie that they put a segment

in get permission from them probably have to

pay them money and I Don't know if that'll ever

happen Yeah Which sucks because it's a great

cartoon. It's probably one of the greatest cartoons

not to be on DVD and that's mask Well mask is

on DVD you just have to import it that's all

okay, I don't consider that on DVD Okay, any

other things we want to say before we go to a

break here? Not really. Just that it sucks that

it's not on DVD. Agreed. This is Dr. Wily, and

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sight. I see a new episode of Tooncast coming

this week. Hi, Kevin and Mike. This is Tim calling

for Tooncast about Muppet Babies. I watched the

show quite a bit when I was growing up. It wasn't

one of my favorite shows, but it was on Saturday

morning, ran for a long time. I remember that

you never did see Nanny as another one of those

shows that only showed the adult legs or from

the waist down. But I thought the 30 Hill Cartoon

has a great theme song, very catchy. It's all

about escapism, and it's really interesting how

they would have these fantasies and create these

worlds and everything. And you'd be totally into

the story that they created. But then they would

come back to reality, and you would see that

they were playing with sticks or boxes, and the

castle wasn't real. It was just a box they pretended

was a castle. very stuff like that that we did

as kids anyway so I think the voice acting was

great it was really cool seeing Muppet Babies

and kind of started the whole string of you know

cartoon babies but I think they did it the best

all right great show looking forward to hearing

this one and I'll talk to you soon so final thoughts

on Muppet Babies You know, like I said before,

it was one of the best kid version, kid cartoon

versions that we had in the 80s. It was much

better, in my opinion, than the Flintstone kids,

Baby Looney Tunes, the new Archies. Even, I think,

better than a pup named Scooby Doo. That's for

me, dammit. No, you can't compare. Muppet Babies

is better than a pup named Scooby Doo. Okay,

now, hold on, hold on. A pup named Scooby Doo

is good. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

I don't think it's fair to compare the two. You

never think it's fair to compare anything. Shut

up. Asshead. Well, true. Muppet Babies is better

than all those. A Pup Names Scooby Doo is good.

And I'm not saying the new Archie's or Baby Looney

Tunes or those are bad, but Muppet Babies is

by far the best kid version cartoon that came

across in the 80s. Yeah. That I can say and you

can't argue with it. Yes I can because a pup

named Scooby Scooby Doo is just as equally awesome

So no, it was not as equally as awesome as Muppet

Babies. Yes, it was that's that's BS and you

know it. No, it's not It's not BS. Nobody out

there would say a pup named Scooby Doo was as

good as Muppet Babies Yeah, people probably would

so anyways, it was the best kid version cartoon

in the 80s I think it's one of the best cartoons

of the 80s. You know I would put it definitely

in the top 10. I don't know where exactly, but

I'd put it in the top 10 somewhere. I love Jim

Henson, rest his soul. He did so many great things

for kids and I was a huge Jim Henson fan and

this was just as good as Sesame Street and the

Muppet movies and the Muppet show. So I am a

huge fan. If you have not seen Muppet Babies,

I know obviously it's not on DVD, but try to

find videos of it somewhere so you can be exposed

to it. There are episodes on YouTube. Yeah, so,

you know, go to YouTube. They're not the best

of quality. Right. There are episodes on YouTube.

But at least try to expose yourself to it, especially

if you are a fan of Sesame Street or The Muppet

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some work to do now Scooby Dooby Doo, where are

you? We need some help from you now Come on Scooby

Doo, I see you Pretend you got a sliver But you're

not fooling me, cause I can see The way you shake

and shiver You know we got a mystery to solve

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