Mighty Mouse: Three Decades, Three Different Shows

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podcast Hello and welcome to the 71st episode

of Tooncast brought to you by the Geekcast Radio

Network. I'm your host Deidre and Mike and today

I'm joined once again finally after not being

on the show for two episodes Kevin Optimus Solo

Thompson. Hello, sir. Howdy neighbor. Yeah, you

Wow, that's a mr. Rogers reference if I ever

saw one. Oh Boy, at least you caught it. I'm

happy. Oh, yeah Hello, Sesame Street and Mr.

Rogers were my two educational programs when

I was growing up, thank you. Good ones to have.

Yeah, thank God we didn't have that raping purple

piece of pile of junk dinosaur. Right on. Something

we can agree on. So yeah, we are doing, today

we're going to be talking about Mighty Mouse.

uh... so even up to serve uh... let's see it's

been a while since i've been here so uh... i've

actually don't think i've been taking a break

from podcast actually have been uh... which is

odd for me i've actually been listening to some

podcast lately uh... times Usually I just record

them and I don't listen to them. Let's see, what

are the most recent ones I listened to? Listened

to the conversation, obviously, of the book and

the game for War for Cybertron. What else have

I listened to? I think that's the longest feedback

we've ever had on the website whatsoever. Yeah,

so now someone come and outdo me, leave some

feedback. I listened to Steve Megatron's War

Stories if you know. Yeah, I listened to I actually

went way back on tune cast to try to listen to

some of our early episodes to see how far we've

come And I listened to which episode I listened

to the episode of mask back in I don't know in

the first episode eight Yeah, I listen to episode

eight and now we're on 71 So I could definitely

tell a difference. Yeah Besides that, what have

I been doing? I've been to the theater now three

times to see Despicable Me. I kind of loved animated

movies back in the 90s, and then I kind of took

a break. Even though I know there was good stuff

out there, I didn't watch a lot of the Pixar

stuff yet. That's not Pixar. No, I know, I know.

When I think of current animation movies, I think

of Pixar, and obviously DreamWorks, and Disney's

kind of... gone to like a second or third seat

behind those guys it seems like but Despicable

Me I didn't know what to think of it when I went

to see it the first time but that is an incredible

animated movie I just it's just fantastic and

maybe it's because one of the minions name is

Kevin I don't know but it's a great movie so

I've seen that three times and then just been

doing the same old stuff over at BTBA hopefully

by the time this airs the commercials will have

gone live since I've already inputted about 35

commercials and mascots and voices and all of

that I'm just waiting on the the head guy there

to activate it so the public can see it cool

cool so that's been it besides just doing the

random I commented on something over there a

couple weeks ago it was all the news story the

Yeah, I commented back because the new story

was the new story about the hub and the new they

just did a major announcement It'll be a couple

weeks ago since by the time this airs, but uh,

I know the comment was they got the title of

the Justice League movie wrong Yeah, and that's

not actually even anything we wrote. That was

something that hub Okay And their press release

got it wrong. They got a couple shows wrong,

actually, if you read their press release. I

don't know who did it, but it was just talking

about all the new voice actors that have been

announced for the different hub shows, which

is exciting stuff. Yeah. I guess if you have

digital cable, which I don't, so oh well. Gotcha.

I'll find a questionable meat of watching it

eventually. Otherwise you're going to have to

listen to me talk about them. Yeah, yeah. Let's

see. What have you been up to in the last couple

weeks since I talked to you? Man, just recording,

recording, recording. Like we said, I had Glade

Packer and Jonathan Todarian join me for episode

69, which is Johnny Bravo. I had Derek Ferguson

from Better in the Dark join me on episode 70,

last week's episode. So, I don't know. I'm just

not a Johnny fan apparently. Yeah, well see the

thing is though it's We're actually recording

this a little early, but when this airs it will

be about three weeks through When does yeah,

it'll be like the middle of September by the

time this airs. I think I think I don't I don't

know Too many podcasts too many schedules to

juggle and not just schedules of co -hosts just

scheduling air dates and all oh god I'm so good

as much as I love doing this show. I'll be so

fucking happy when it's done Laughs for me. Don't

ever say that about This beast unleashed and

uh, I don't have to worry about secret origins.

My co -host for that kind of disappeared. So

secret origins is at a standstill. So, but uh,

no, um, as of August, what the hell, uh, as of

August 11th, which was about three or four weeks

ago now, um, I got a whole bunch of crap in August.

I got the SDCC Mighty Mug Prowl, Transformers

Mighty Mug Prowl. I got the Mark 6 Mighty Mug

Iron Man, the metallic one from Movie 2. Hold

on, it's not actually metallic, but it's metallic

looking anyway. I got a, my very first order

from MaddieCollector .com, I got the Tokyo Mater

exclusive from SDCC. And I love the Cars tunes.

Those things are so hilarious. Yeah, I haven't

seen any of them. That's blasphemy. Those things

are awesome. Well, after we get done with this

episode, go to YouTube and just look up Cars

tune or Disney Cars tune or hell, just look up

Mater's Tall Tales and all the episodes should

show up. They're just funny little cartoon shorts

dealing with Mater and him, you know. explaining

us a backstory of like an adventure he went on

and all that but those things are super awesome

I'll do that in 65 years yes it's in the future

man I wish that guy that spider -man used to

hang out with what was his name the Beyonder

I wish he was He was here. Oh, jeez. Oh, come

on. You know that was a blatant reference. Come

on. I know. It was good. I also got in the Challenge

at Cybertron three -pack set from Big Bad Toy

Store, which was Universe 2 .0, Galvatron, Cyclonus,

and Rodimus, but they were done up in different

colors. Well... Cyclonus and Rodimus are. I don't

know about Galvatron, because I've never had

that toy. But yeah, I got that in, so that's

pretty cool. I guess I can go ahead and reveal

this since, like I said, by the time this airs,

everybody will already have known. I don't know

how much YouTube you actually watch, or if you

subscribe to people or anything like that. I

do. One of my buddies that does Toycast every

great once in a while, Pia. uh... is one of those

transformers toy reviewers on youtube and he

was running a contest uh... the end of july and

it was the the deadline was was august eighth

uh... he was going to give away a transformers

animated deluxe run as minor uh... and uh...

so the There were six questions. If you answered

all six right, you got entered into the random

number generator. And it pulled out whatever

email said that this is the person that won.

Well, he had 800 and something entries. Of those,

673 were correct. And I won. Yes. Yeah, it was

the first contest I've won in over 10 years.

yeah um let's see what else not much else is

going on we will have already have interviewed

him Steve Michael Wilson and I are going to interview

David Soboloff voice of depth charge for beast

unleashed so that was a pretty fun deal yeah

okay so anything else I'm good. Okay, so history

lesson. Alright folks, for today's history lesson

we can actually travel all the way back to 1942

to find the origins of the famous Terry Toon's

character, Mighty Mouse, although originally

he was called Super Mouse. Mighty Mouse proved

to be Terry Toon's biggest star. Interesting

to note though that it wasn't until Paul Terry

sold his entire Mighty Mouse manifest to CBS

in 1955 that we first heard the famous theme

song music, which I'm sure will be in this episode

somewhere. CBS continued to run the existing

theatrical cartoon for 12 years which maintained

an average 11 .6 rating with a 45. 8 percent

audience share and for those of you that don't

know what any of those numbers mean that means

it was doing real good for about 12 years. The

late 60s and early 70s though saw Mighty Mouse

fade to almost non -existence while superhero

cartoons ruled the airwaves. However in 1979

Viacom and Filmation brought the mouse back to

life along with co -star segments for Heckel

and Jekyll. This version was called the new adventures

of Mighty Mouse and Heckel and Jekyll. Mighty

Mouse saw its third and final incarnation in

the late 80s when Ralph Bashki and John Kay took

over the character. This 1987 version was entitled

Mighty Mouse New Adventures. All in all, the

first series we will talk about ran for 32 episodes

during its two season run from 79 to 80, and

the second series we'll talk about ran for 19

episodes during its two season run from 1987

to 1988. So which, if either, series do you have

memories of? I have memories of both, but going

back and watching them on YouTube? Oh, God. Just

shoot me now. Mm -hmm. We might actually agree

on something here. Just shoot me. I feel like

Daffy. Honestly, right now, I feel like Daffy

because it's like, you want to shoot him now

or do you want to wait till you get home? Shoot

him now! Shoot him now! Yeah, why did you have

to shoot me now? You know I just I I feel like

Daffy you with this one because I remember It's

funny how I remember this I remember watching

new adventures Right behind new new adventures

of Mighty Mouse. I remember watching that right

behind new adventures of he -man For some strange

reason. I feel so good. No wonder you're so screwed

up. Oh, shut up. I'm just kidding. I honestly

don't remember. I remember Mighty Mouse the character.

Mighty Mouse the actual character was one of

my favorite characters when I was real little

as far as like watching the old, old cartoons.

I liked him better than a lot of the Disney and

Hannah Barbera stuff when I was a kid. I don't

know what it was about him. I don't know if it

was the music or his little You know Mighty Mouse

is here to save the day type thing, but but I

love the character watching back at the YouTube

Videos of both the Mighty Mouse new adventures

and new adventures of Mighty Mouse I'm pretty

sure I must not have seen those when I was a

kid because Watch those back. It was like I was

watching it for the first time and that's not

the mighty mouse I remember so I think the mighty

mouse I remember is the original theatrical short

mighty mouse and I don't really have any recollection

of these two shows, but I rest assured listeners

I did watch somehow made myself watch plenty

of these episodes, so I do know what I'm talking

about with this episode Yeah, I I think I watched

like two or three of each just to get the gist

and feel of it and just to try to remember it

and And neither one of them really gave me any

lasting childhood memory. No. Like, uh, I don't

know. This is weird because, so basically we've

had three different Mighty Mouses. We've had

the original theatrical short, Mighty Mouse.

We've had the Filmation Mighty Mouse. And then

we've had the Bashki John K. Mighty Mouse. And

they're all three incredibly different. Wait,

John K. isn't that bastard that created That

show that will never be covered on this podcast?

R &S, yes. Oh, God. Oh, be nice. But, uh, but

yeah. It's time to go into a rage. The three

versions of Mighty Mouse are so different as

far as shows go. The tone of the show, the characterization

of the individual characters, obviously, the

voice acting, the either music or lack thereof,

each of the three is so different. That and that's

just very unusual usually you have some that

are Basically trying to be the same thing or

trying to basically mimic the the previous shows

and none of these did that Which is weird just

weird to me Yeah, I I don't know And then these

are these are so far in the back of my mind and

even though like I said I did watch some of the

stuff on YouTube I don't know. I just I watched

it and I found myself not caring. I found myself

seeing Mighty Mouse as a cross between Super

Mickey and Superman. Oh, God. No, seriously.

I agree. I agree, actually. But I like him better

than Mickey. Hey, Mickey Mouse is awesome. Shut

up. Yeah, I can see the comparison, though. I

mean, he is kind of a cross between Mickey Mouse

and Superman. Like what if he was called super

mouse like he was going to be originally? Yeah,

that would be a copyright infringement But getting

getting into the the actual characters I mean

if you trace it back to its origin there was

basically three main characters that have been

with mighty mouse from the beginning through

all of its incarnations. That's obviously Mighty

Mouse, who's the main character, and then you

have Pearl Pureheart and Oil Canahary. Those

are the three that, if you're a fan of Mighty

Mouse, you should know. And basically, Mighty

Mouse is the caped crusader mouse who's as strong

as He -Man, basically. Pearl Pureheart is his

love interest or girlfriend or damsel in distress

or hostage from the enemies, depending on which

incarnation you're watching. And then, of course,

Oil Canahary is the bad guy. who's seen more

in certain shows and less than others but those

are the three main characters do do you have

memories of those characters at all from uh...

your childhood are only from watching you too

the only memories i have you know one of these

shows is mighty mouse himself that's it just

him going after bad guys in and because then

the reason why i said he's a cross between mickey

mouse and superman is because when i was watching

him zoom around in the sky a little while ago

when I was watching the uh... the episodes on

YouTube his face when he's flying and his face

and his ears are stretched out he almost looks

like Mickey and every time that I did see him

when I was a kid he was always beating up the

bad guys so I just assumed it was a mousy version

of Superman it was a steroid version of Mickey

Mouse Yeah, he's he's honestly the only the only

character I remember from when I was a kid That's

probably because I just watched the shorts and

I don't I don't know I just but even the shorts

I think those other characters were in there

and I still only remember mighty Mouse. I love

him as a character I think he's great. He doesn't

say a lot but He's just kind of cool and funny

and I liked the the music that went with them

and the original stuff But yeah, I don't remember

Pearl Pure Heart or oil can Harry at all but

watching These videos on YouTube especially watching

Well only watching obviously the new when I watched

the new adventures of mighty mouse and heckle

and Jekyll Holy cow when I started Watching it

oil can Harry sure did sound familiar Well, yeah,

I mean But I wouldn't have been able to tell

you that that same person was also voicing mighty

mouse uh... i would have been able to tell you

that now as a result i was thinking of the other

one that's on the list but yeah you're right

skeletor alan openheimer i think even as a kid

if i would have seen this i would have been like

why skeletor chasing mighty mouse it is alan

openheimer doing his exact skeletor voice yeah

oil can harry but i did not know he was doing

the voice of mighty mouse as well so so that

was kind of interesting and then the only other

one i recognize obviously out of the new adventures

is uh... the man of a thousand animal sounds

frank welter yeah i was doing uh... the sidekicks

on the show heckle and jekyll and quackula which

will talk about once we get to the uh... the

actual show uh... and then dianne pershing was

the uh... pro pure heart new this is all for

the new adventures uh... it's a little bit different

in uh... The Mighty Mouse new event. Why do they

all both have to have new adventures in them?

I don't know. It's really confusing. We're just

going to call it Filmation and Bashki or something

like that. Yeah, there you go. In the Bashki

version, there's a lot less, a bigger cast, but

the main characters are a little lesser known

than what you had with Frank Welker and Alan

Oppenheimer. Well, I recognize Charlie Adler

Clive Rappel, Joe Laski Yeah, the the kind of

the additional voices are like them minor characters

have a lot of famous voices Neil Ross and like

you said God, Neil Ross. Don't get me started

on that. I love Neil Ross But uh, but for the

main voices you had Maggie Roswell who I've never

heard of doing Pearl Pure Heart and you had Patrick

Penny's doing Mighty Mouse He was mainframe from

GI Joe one of the minor characters And he was

also cloned from Blackstar. Those are the only

two places. I really recognize him from but uh

Definitely a different take on Mighty Mouse than

Alan Oppenheimer and different take than the

original theatrical shorts. Yeah But uh, did

we how many episodes were you able to get through

of the newer version? Two and a half. Yeah, that

was just the theme song really kicked my ass

on the new one i like the theme song on the new

one better than the filmation one but nowhere

near as well as i like the theatrical short music

yeah but uh i don't know like the new one the

voice acting was fine i guess it was a little

more subtle than the voice acting on the filmation

one the filmation one was kind of hit you over

the head with the voice acting kind of to me

Maybe that's just because it was Skeletor doing

oil can't hear I don't know But I can't complain

about any of the voice acting on any of these

shows I Can complain about some other stuff,

but not the voice acting. Oh What you think of

the voice acting overall and the two comparisons

the two shows See that's the thing though cuz

I only watched like Select whatever select episodes

I could find on YouTube. Yeah I wasn't, I was

just watching to get a feel for the show. I wasn't

really paying that much attention to the voice

acting. Just from what I remember as a kid, I

did like the voice of Mighty Mouse that Oppenheimer

did, but I couldn't remember. As of right now,

I can't remember the life and what the hell it

sounds like. Yeah, I can't actually either right

now off the top of my head, but kind of as we're

going through, I'm just kind of trying to keep

track of the different aspects of the shows in

which I like better. And for voice acting, I

think it's kind of even it's a tie for me for

both shows. Yeah, I will say the one difference

for me is the narrator. Both shows had a narrator

that basically introduced the stories kind of

like a homage to the old shorts. The narrator

for the filmation series I thought was awesome.

I thought you did an incredible job of interacting

with the story and just kind of doing a great

job, but I couldn't stand the narrator in the

later series. I don't know if you remember the

narration at all, but I will give narration to

the Filmation series as a win. I honestly don't

remember it. You have to watch back, dammit.

No, I wouldn't put you through that. So basically

voice acting, characters, pretty even for both

shows. Not a lot to say one was better than the

other. My only thing was I liked the narration

on the first series better. Do you have any other

thoughts on characters or voice actors? Not really,

no. Alrighty then. Moving on. Yes. Um going in

the behind the scenes a little bit. I think you'll

recognize the production team. Obviously the

filmation one. Well, yeah Lou Shimer, Norm Prescott

and Don Christensen Yeah, you know there Prescott

and Shimer especially are in all the filmation

stuff Yeah, and then of course, like we've said,

you know, it's funny Shimer's, you know Shimer's

in this as production obviously, but i'm surprised

he was not a voice of any of the characters yeah

maybe he did some of the you know the one -shot

timers or something like that but yeah i was

kind of surprised because he usually does characters

in the shows that that he's in and then of course

the new series was produced by ralph bakshi bakshi

i don't know how to say his name but whatever

his name is um he was the producer there's some

other people involved as directors and writers

which we'll get to in a minute But there is an

interesting kind of backstory to the production

of the newer series. I did not know this before

getting ready for this podcast, but maybe some

of the listeners will find this somewhat interesting.

Basically, it goes back to 1987, April. Bakshi

set up a meeting with Judy Price, who at the

time was the head of CBS Saturday Morning Block.

Price rejected Bakshi's prepared pitches for

other shows, but asked what else he had. He told

her that he had the rights to Mighty Mouse, and

she agreed to purchase the series. However, Bakshi

did not own the rights and did not know who did.

While researching the rights, he learned that

CBS had acquired the entire Terry Toons library

in 1955 and basically forgotten about it. According

to Bakshi, I sold them a show they already owned,

so they just gave me the rights for nothing.

So that was kind of an interesting little backstory

to the new Mighty Mouse show. That's when he

brought in your friend John Kay And his team

but but but you you gotta you gotta stay with

me for a second because the team that worked

on this is Remarkable. I know you don't like

John Kay, but on his team Steve Gordon Bruce

Woodside Bruce Tim Andrew Stanton Jeff Pidgeon

Dave Marshall a couple of the other names you'll

recognize are Tom Minton Jim Reardon maybe and

we'll get to where some of these guys were from

but it was a it was quite the team of kind of

creator writer Idea people that came together

for the second show, but we'll get more into

that in a little bit Yeah Just off the the new

adventures of Mighty Mouse and heckle and Jekyll

Paul D recognize him right away buzz Dixon will

duh You know Yeah, definitely those are the two

that I recognize the most. Yep. And then like

I said for the other show, the writers that you

might... the writers you might not have heard

of besides maybe Tom Minton who... Yeah, Minton's

pretty much the only one. But we'll get to some

other people that were behind the scenes that

will kind of let you in on what they went on

to do after the show. Yeah. Alright, so I guess

getting into the actual show here. Let's see,

the new adventures of Mighty Mouse and Heckel

and Jekyll rely on verbal humor to carry the

show. The artwork was a lot more energetic than

some of the original Terry Toons. Non -violence

was the main word here, though. Mighty Mouse

used his wits rather than his muscles to defeat

oil can Harry, who in turn was motivated by greed

and selfishness. uh... rather than uh... lost

in his dealing with pearl pure art uh... and

i can already say i'll never watch this cartoon

ever again um... mighty mouse appeared in two

weekly cliffhanging seven -minute episodes set

in outer space plus one self -contained adventure

heckle and jekyll cartoons were seen twice a

week and quackula was seen once a week it was

shortened to a half -hour program in the second

season and quackula disappeared Maybe he went

to Duckburg. Maybe he went to Count Duckula.

No, I don't know. Count. Yeah, yeah! I want to

suck your quacker! Mighty Mouse was also on hand

to dispense the 32nd environmental bulletins.

Oh boy, it's Captain Planet all over again. Yikes!

and the safety tips that were dictated by CBS.

The music was basically gone for the show because

of Filmation Brass. No more opera insisted Filmation's

Norman Prescott in 1979. I don't think that singing

superhero mouse would fly with contemporary audiences.

And that's going to be the one thing that my

biggest fault with the Filmation show is one

of the reasons I like the shorts so much is because

the operatic Music and I'm not a big fan of the

opera, but the way they did it with the mighty

mouse shorts. I loved the music I loved the music

they put in the shorts I loved it when mighty

mouse sang his little entrance song and stuff

like that And I wish that filmation would have

kept some form of music Overtones and some of

that kind of musical upbringing that that might

have had in their show I wish they hadn't taken

it all out. I think norm Prescott was wrong with

that Mean it's a it's a singing superhero. I

mean, it's a superhero mouse. You can do anything

with that and people will You know what? I mean,

it's not like it's a serious superhero. Like

it's not like we're making Batman sing here.

It's it's a mouse Yeah I don't know. I just it's

not like you put Jerry Seinfeld next to a superhero

singing mouse. Oh Jeez, but I don't know. I just

I wish they would have kept the music in information

Yeah, never leave home without it. Bada bing.

In the newer series, basically the series was

a commercial half -hour format, 22 minutes basically,

and each episode contained two self -contained

11 -minute cartoon segments. It differed from

the earlier incarnations of Mighty Mouse in many

ways. It gave Mighty Mouse the secret identity

of Mike Mouse, kind of his alter ego, a sidekick

in the form of the orphan Scrappy Mouse. Scooby

-doo? What? heroic colleagues such as the bat

-bat and his sidekick the bug wonder wait Batman

and the boy wonder and The League of Super rodents

the League of Super. Oh good. That's the ah,

I Hate John Kay and Ralph and bash crease on

I told you know as well as introduce antagonists

like PD Pete or PD Pate Madame marsupial and

the cow the original mighty mouse villain oil

can Harry made a couple of appearances Pearl

pure heart was not always the damsel in distress

and many episodes did not feature her at all

Mighty Mouse's light operatic singing was eliminated

just like it was in Filmation except they did

bring in the here I come to save the day which

was sometimes interrupted in the series But here

we go unlike American animated TV series of the

time The show's format was loose and episodes

did not follow our particular formula. Episodes

varied from superhero type stories to parodies

of shows like The Honeymooners and the Batman

series and Japanese monster films. They even

lampooned other cartoons like Alvin and the Chipmunks.

The series resurrected old Tarot tune characters

and kind of threw them in. So every episode was

kind of you never knew what you were going to

get, which is one thing. that is kind of a trademark

for John K and Ralph Bakshi. You never know what

you're gonna get and a lot of times that's to

their demise. And a lot of times you don't want

it. Yeah, exactly. Much like that whole MTV show

they tried to do. Yuck! Yeah, and if you've ever

seen Ralph Bakshi's first film or first couple

of things that he worked on, yeah, they're not

allowed to be shown on TV. Because there's lots

of cartoon drug use and stuff like that so They're

a little bit out there Which is the opposite

of filmation filmation is about as straight laced

as you can go and then you have these guys who

are out there So that's probably why we have

two series that are completely different I don't

have anything else from the show except for that

basically I don't know like I liked I could follow

the the filmation shows a little bit easier the

the newer shows kind of had me thinking what

the heck or is everyone that's creating the show

on drugs but I don't know each one had its ups

and downs I didn't necessarily like one show

better than the other but I'd say if I had to

pick one to watch again I would probably watch

the filmation ones even though they're really

dry and kind of slow I'd rather sit through new

adventures of He -Man than watch this crap again.

I don't know if I can say that much. I'd rather

sit through a 12 -hour Hannah Montana marathon

than watch this shit. I might actually go with

that. Okay, so getting into the music segment

for new adventures. We have Ray Ellis and Norm

Prescott who are credited as Yvette Blyas and

Jeff Michael. What the fuck? I don't know. That

makes no damn sense. Okay cross -dressing. No,

no, never mind. Anyway must have been some type

of legal thing. I have no clue I don't know any

of the music people from the second series. Nope.

Yeah, so they Know Mighty Mouse new adventures

no music Getting into the legacy segment here.

The show is considered revolutionary at the time.

This is for Mighty Mouse New Adventures, revolutionary

at the time and along with 1988's Who Framed

Roger Rabbit inspired a wave of animated shows

that were much zanier than those that had dominated

the children's animation in the previous two

decades. It is credited by some as the Impetuous

of the creator -driven animation revolution of

the 1990s, it was a huge springboard for many

cartoonists and animators who would later become

famous, including that asshole John Kay, creator

of the show that will never be covered on this

podcast, Bruce W. Tim, producer of Batman Animated

Series, Jim Reardon, writer for Tiny Toon Adventures,

Wally and director of many Simpsons episodes,

Tom Minton writer and producer for many Warner

Brothers television cartoons including Tiny Toons,

Animaniacs, The Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries,

Babylini Tunes, and Doc Dodgers. Lynn Naylor,

don't know who the hell she is. Character designer

for Batman the Animated Series. Oh, okay. Well,

yeah. Uh -huh. Okay, and a bunch of other people.

Yeah. They just had a lot of people. That's what

I was talking about earlier. A lot of people

that... went on to do other things and you know

the ones that i obviously have heard of the most

obviously john k bruce tim tom minton um those

are some big names that were involved in the

show even if they didn't do that well in their

show i guess they had to learn somewhere um and

john k actually left the uh the show after the

first season um thank god he was venturing on

to do the new adventures of beanie and sisal

which also was a flop oh no you mean to tell

me he oh Apparently he's all about new adventures.

Do you even remember being Ian Cecil? Yes, I

do. Okay. That show, the original show, when

it was, it wasn't showing with Underdog and all

that, but it was showing around that same time

that Underdog and all that stuff was showing.

That was my mom's number one favorite show. I'm

sorry the fact that this asshole got his hands

and made new adventures of oh god. No, it looks

almost the same, but it's not Like just from

the look it looks like the exact same characters

because I did make a page for both The original

and the new adventures of being in seesaw on

B2 it BTBA and the characters look a lot You

know look pretty similar, but I haven't watched

any but I can guarantee that it's pretty different.

Yeah But yeah, there is a lot of controversy

that goes along with this With this new adventure

show. Like I said, it kind of follows a basket

around a little bit, but the main the most famous

Controversy deals with a crushed flower scene

So let me explain here during the production

of the episode the littlest tramp Editor Tom

Klein expressed concern that a sequence showing

Mighty Mouse sniffing the remains of a crushed

flower resembled cocaine use Bakshi did not initially

view the footage He believed that Klein was overreacting

but agreed to let him cut the scene John Kay

expressed disbelief over the cut insisting that

the action was harmless and that the sequence

should be restored Following John Kay's advice

Bakshi told Klein to restore the scene which

had been approved by network executives in the

CBS standards and practice department the episode

aired without controversy until Later that next

year when head of the American Family Association

alleged that the lowest ramp depicted cocaine

use instigating a media frenzy Basically, there's

a whole big old deal and Eventually the episode

or that part got recut even though Boshy defended

the episode saying I despise drugs I would be

out of my mind to show a cartoon character snorting

cocaine in a cartoon But Don't know it's he said

that it was just sniffing the flower and that

the white line was supposed to represent the

the nose sniffing it But yeah, right Basically,

yeah, right CBS supported him, but it's just

another one of things. It's kind of followed

his career. He always is pushing the envelope,

I guess But you can get into some of the legacy

stuff that's come out of Yeah, there's been comic

book spinoffs for Mighty Mouse New Adventures.

There's been DVD releases on January 5th, 2010.

CBS DVD slash Paramount released the complete

series on three DVDs with every installment of

the Saturday morning cartoon uncut and presented

in the original full screen video format. The

collection includes the uncut version of The

Littlest Tramp. Oh, there you go. but features

an error in the version of Mighty's wedlock whimsy

included on the set, where the penultimate live

action shot of layout artist Ed Bell is substituted

with an animatic version of the shot. The actual

shot is aired as aired appears in the included

documentary. Among the extras are documentary

breaking the mold, the remaking of Mighty Mouse,

and commentary tracks for several episodes. Also

included are three original Terry Toon's Theatrical

Mighty Mouse cartoon shorts, as taken from Paramount's

Waltz, which are the first ever official release

of Terry Toon's material on DVD. There are no

DVDs of, besides what's included on this one,

there's no DVDs of the Filmation series or the

theatrical shorts that I've seen. So this is

really the only full Mighty Mouse show that's

gotten the DVD treatment. Yes. And Yeah, no no

IDN rating no not for any of these which doesn't

necessarily surprise me I wouldn't have had a

problem if this was like one of the only shows

that they didn't rate But that that means nothing.

Yeah But you know Just looking back at some of

these at all the Mighty Mouse history If you're

gonna watch Mighty Mouse if you've never seen

it before or if you think you remember it from

your childhood and you want to watch something

you want to watch the original theatrical shorts

the original theatrical shorts is the best mighty

mouse there is these two shows do not do the

shorts justice in my opinion i don't know how

you feel i don't know if you remember the original

theatrical shorts but if i was to rate them original

theatrical shorts would be better than both of

these shows together but the only thing i remember

from mighty mouse is watching him fly around

and operatically singing here i come to save

the day that's it Yeah. Honestly, that's... Mighty

Mouse is on his way. Yeah. Yeah, the theatrical

shorts is where it's at. That's where you should

watch. The only thing that you should do with

these other two series is maybe watch it on YouTube.

Don't spend money on them. Don't spend money

on anything that says New Adventures and Mighty

Mouse in the same sentence. Exactly. I still

love the Mighty Mouse character, but these two

shows were not good. Nope. Hey, maybe that...

Maybe that rumored quote -unquote live -action

or CGI film will be better. Oh god. Oh god. And

now that I've made Kevin's head explode, we'll

be right back after this. Yeah, Super Mickey

Mouse Man needs to go away. That's my final thoughts.

My final thoughts are if you're gonna do it,

do it right, and so far nobody has. It's a good

character. It's a good idea. I like the Superman

Mickey Mouse combination. I actually like Mickey

or Mighty Mouse I like his look I like a sound

I like his idea. I don't like how it's been done

in the last 50 years Yeah, if you go back to

the 40s and 50s, it was done right. It hasn't

been done right since Yep So thank you for joining

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